[05:19] <Jordan_U> @mark #ubuntu procyon_ember Refusing to give their end goal. Claims to (and may really) not understand what an end goal is or why their refusal to state one waisted the channel's time. Was warned that if it became a pattern they might be removed from the channel.
[14:35] <bazhang> crikey
[14:36] <bazhang> we need #ubuntu-github in addition to all the bash/clang/bsd on windows channels
[14:57] <popey> @login
[14:57] <popey> @btlogin
[16:04] <bazhang> syth seems to be alteregoa
[16:04] <bazhang> the fnordistus guy
[16:49] <bazhang> chuckzz is all over the place
[16:49] <bazhang> first its some modprobe for acpi, then an instant later ubuntu server is fresh installed
[18:07] <c0mrade> hehe
[18:07] <c0mrade> Anyone interested in free hosting? I've got a server at home and I provide full root access. You choose the OS of your flavor and install it on VMware running on my server...I give up to 3GB of RAM, 200GB of HDD an a vCPU.
[18:40] <ikonia> c0mrade: no thanks
[18:41] <c0mrade> Okay
[18:41] <ikonia> c0mrade: you may want to stop spamming that on every channel you join
[18:41] <ikonia> it doesn't appear to be being well recieved
[18:41] <ikonia> c0mrade: is there a reason you joined ths channel (#ubuntu-ops)
[19:56] <k1l_> @comment 50655
[19:57] <k1l_> seems like that forward is still in place and there was again too much history inbetween to remove it
 Has anyone had any success installing Rails on the new Windows Subsystem for Linux?
[22:01] <k1l_> it begins :)
[22:01] <k1l_> where was that GNU/kWindows channel now? :)
[22:02] <Jordan_U> k1l_: #ubuntu-on-windows
[22:03] <k1l_> thanks
[22:05] <Jordan_U> You're welcome.
[22:05] <IdleOne> We could use a factoid directing people there
[22:06] <IdleOne> maybe?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> !ubuwin
[22:06] <k1l_> !ubuwin
[22:06] <Flannel> !windoze
[22:06] <Flannel> Oh wait
[22:06] <Flannel> #ubuntu-on-win doesn't exist?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> I think we were waiting on changing the ubuwin factoid until #ubuntu-on-windows became more "official", though I don't know what that would entail. Maybe we should just do it.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Flannel: #ubuntu-on-winDOWS
[22:07] <Flannel> I can't read, apparently.
[22:07] <Flannel> Jordan_U: Thanks
[22:08] <IdleOne> !no Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not currently supported in #ubuntu. For discussion, see #ubuntu-on-windows.
[22:08] <Flannel> I got it
[22:08] <IdleOne> !no ubuwin is <reply>Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not currently supported in #ubuntu. For discussion, see #ubuntu-on-windows.
[22:09] <Flannel> !ubuwin =~ /currently //
[22:09] <Flannel> !ubuwin =~ /discussion,/discussion and support,/
[22:11] <IdleOne> better
[22:11] <Flannel> !ubuwin
[22:11] <IdleOne> :)
[22:12] <Flannel> Only thoughts are getting rid of the future perfect stuff.
[22:12] <Jordan_U> Yes, now it's decidedly present and imperfect ;)
[22:13] <IdleOne> We could probably use a couple more ops to idle in there also
[22:13] <k1l_> and people who actually know about it to support it.
[22:13] <Flannel> and a pony
[22:14] <IdleOne> ooo ponies
[22:14] <ikonia> dax had some interest in it
[22:14] <Flannel> !pony-#ubuntu-offtopic | IdleOne
[22:15] <IdleOne> hehe
[22:15] <IdleOne> Should add COME BACK 1 YEAR
[22:16] <Flannel> Haha
[23:07] <jonathan_zz> so this Ikonia person is abusing his/her channel ops. Being an ass to people and when someone complains, that person is kicked out of the channel.
[23:08] <jonathan_zz> nothing more than a tyrant.
[23:09] <jonathan_zz> and someone abusing their power to win an argument.
[23:09] <jonathan_zz> being a moderator, but getting person about the advice that is given.
[23:09] <jonathan_zz> personal*.
[23:09] <jonathan_zz> as such, mixing user role and moderator role, and abusing moderator role to win arguments being executed as a user.
[23:10] <ikonia> jonathan_zz: lets be real shall we
[23:10] <ikonia> a user asked a question to the channel looking for opinions and advice
[23:11] <jonathan_zz> what, the person with the stick is saying let's get real?
[23:11] <ikonia> I gave my opinion and advice, gave some detail and said he was free to ignore it
[23:11] <ikonia> you joined in being rude
[23:11] <jonathan_zz> no you did not.
[23:11] <ikonia> you persisted to be rude and called me names
[23:11] <ikonia> you where removed and redirected here - now you're blaming it on winning an argument
[23:11] <jonathan_zz> you are being a downright horrible person to that other person.
[23:11] <jonathan_zz> you are not letting that person be
[23:11] <ikonia> letting him be ?
[23:11] <ikonia> he's ASKING for advice and opinions
[23:12] <jonathan_zz> and you are interfering with her opinion or answers to such an extent that you are saying "no, do a proper job"
[23:12] <jonathan_zz> he is not asking for meddling
[23:12] <jonathan_zz> he is not asking for commands
[23:12] <ikonia> he is ASKING will something work
[23:12] <ikonia> and do you think it's a good idea
[23:12] <jonathan_zz> and you did not answer that question
[23:12] <jonathan_zz> you started giving orders
[23:12] <ikonia> I answered in detail
[23:12] <jonathan_zz> no
[23:12] <jonathan_zz> that person was doing his best to ignore your assaults.
[23:12] <ikonia> are you even reading the channel ? or just trying to cause a drama ?
[23:13] <ikonia> what are you talking about ???
[23:13] <jonathan_zz> well you stop making any kind of disagreement about personal character?
[23:13] <jonathan_zz> will*
[23:13] <ikonia> your personal characeter ??? I've not mentioned it
[23:13] <jonathan_zz> you are really the least suited to being a moderator of anyone I have ever seen, you know that?
[23:14] <ikonia> oh, now you've changed to this
[23:14] <jonathan_zz> when a person asks for advice
[23:14] <jonathan_zz> it is take it or leave it
[23:14] <jonathan_zz> you were not content with that
[23:14] <ikonia> what are you talking about ??
[23:14] <jonathan_zz> that person indicated several times wanting to go through with the thing
[23:14] <ikonia> you seem to be making up things
[23:14] <jonathan_zz> and you kept trying to dissuade him
[23:14] <ikonia> jonathan_zz: he is asking for opinions and problems
[23:14] <ikonia> I gave him opinion and details of problems
[23:14] <IdleOne> I read the entire conversation between ikonia and mtek and I don't see where ikonia is forcing anyone to do anything. I do see you meddling and being rude.
[23:15] <jonathan_zz> anyone here can read what was going on there, and you are apparently too thick to realize what you are doing.
[23:15] <ikonia> and said he can continue to go on with it
[23:15] <jonathan_zz> yes of course another mod supporting the mod right?
[23:15] <ikonia> and now we go back to the name calling
[23:15] <ikonia> I can only assume this is some troll attempt, so I'm going to leave it there
[23:15] <jonathan_zz> and what do you think you do
[23:15] <IdleOne> jonathan_zz: why don't you stop being an ass
[23:15] <jonathan_zz> using your channel ops after even 2 minutes
[23:15] <jonathan_zz> me?
[23:15] <IdleOne> yes
[23:15] <jonathan_zz> what do you think you are being right now?
[23:15] <jonathan_zz> a friendly person?
[23:15] <ikonia> jonathan_zz: for the record - I used my ops to remove you and redirect you here as you started name calling
[23:16] <ikonia> no other reason
[23:16] <IdleOne> jonathan_zz: why should I be friendly to you if you call me names?
[23:16] <jonathan_zz> and why do you think I called you that?
[23:16] <ikonia> good night
[23:16] <jonathan_zz> I meant right from the start mister IdleOne person.
[23:17] <jonathan_zz> oh and I did not call you any names.
[23:17] <jonathan_zz> that message after you joined was directed at Ikonia
[23:17] <IdleOne> me, ikonia, any other op. Why should any of us be nice to you after you insult us?
[23:18] <jonathan_zz> so you feel I should watch my step and walk on my toes in case in case any one person being an ass to someone else might be a channel op?
[23:18] <IdleOne> I think you should stop calling people names op or not
[23:18] <jonathan_zz> if you cannot see the issue with Ikonia's behaviour, there is something wrong with you.
[23:19] <jonathan_zz> that was the most unpleasant way to give an answer to anyone.
[23:19] <IdleOne> So yes you should always be on your toes when in any ubuntu channel
[23:19] <jonathan_zz> I refuse anyway, I will not live my life by your standards.
[23:19] <IdleOne> fine
[23:19] <jonathan_zz> and what you say here is terrorism.
[23:19] <IdleOne> you may go and the problem is solved
[23:19] <IdleOne> have a good day.
[23:19] <jonathan_zz> you have no interest in being fair.
[23:20] <jonathan_zz> the moderator is right anyway, isn't she.
[23:20] <jonathan_zz> the way she responded to that person was downright abusive -- you could call it that.
[23:21] <IdleOne> well the way you called ikonia an ass was also abusive
[23:21] <jonathan_zz> when someone objects, she insists that she has every right to treat anyone whatever way she likes
[23:21] <jonathan_zz> Oh don't go and turn the situation around now.
[23:21] <jonathan_zz> if someone is being an ass, I have the right to call her out on that.
[23:21] <jonathan_zz> she came first
[23:21] <jonathan_zz> she began this whole thing.
[23:22] <IdleOne> not turning it around. I am saying that if you believe the op was abusive it does not allow you to be abusive
 if someone is being an ass, I have the right to call her out on that.  <<<< wrong.
[23:22] <jonathan_zz> that's the only way to make things clear to people.
[23:22] <k1l_> you never get the right to call names.
[23:22] <jonathan_zz> yeah that's what you think, but you don't decide life.
[23:22] <jonathan_zz> wrong.
[23:22] <IdleOne> ok I'll make it clear to you. YOU have no right to be abusive in MY community.
[23:22] <jonathan_zz> not doing that means you have lost anyway.
[23:22] <k1l_> if you would have read the guidelines you would have known to call an op in the case you see users missbehaving.
[23:23] <ikonia> jonathan_zz: I've now muted you in this channel so that you can stop talking
[23:23] <k1l_> but you have no right to be abusive.
[23:23] <ikonia> you need to read the IRC guidelines for ubuntu - I'll give you a link in am oment
[23:23] <ikonia> you've just spewing nonense with some sort of odd attempt to cause a problem, I don't know why, and to be honest, I don't care why, but enough now
[23:23] <ikonia> please read the rules in the link I'll give you in a minute, the rules of IRC are the not the rules of real life
[23:23] <ikonia> so don't bother trying to compare them
[23:24] <ikonia> once you've read them, you can rejoin this channel (#ubuntu-ops) and we'll discuss your problem properly
[23:24] <ikonia> !guidelines | jonathan_zz
[23:24] <ikonia> jonathan_zz: please read them and we'll discuss it when you have read