[05:17] Good Morning everyone! [05:52] Guten morgen mein herren [06:17] Morning Kilos ! [06:18] I was trying to type up arroy in irc. [06:19] i dont understand [06:41] correction "up arrow" [06:49] Mornings [06:49] Oom Kilos dalk hier ? [06:51] Does anybody know , if I use my phone's simcard in a router , and a sms comes during that time , will I still get the sms on my phone when putting the sim back in my phone ? Or will it be lost ? [06:53] mazal: it supposed to be stored in the sim. [06:54] Thanx pavlushka [06:54] hier mazal [06:54] but cant guarantee, you should test that. [06:55] chatting to debs [06:55] yes you should [06:55] should test , or should still get it ? [06:56] put your sim in the router, send a sms or ask anyone to send and put the sim in the phone to check. [06:58] Oh crap there goes R80 [06:58] pavlushka, will do , asked Kilos to send me one now [06:59] hey mazal, I've noticed your PC configuration at your office, its huge!!! [06:59] How you mean ? [06:59] The ram discussion we had ? [06:59] yes. [06:59] Is ok [07:00] Won't call it huge [07:00] Same as my home one [07:00] wow, double huge! [07:00] The ram is overkill yes. No normal pc needs that much [07:01] what do you do? virtualization or graphical works? [07:01] IT support [07:01] you do virtualization then. [07:01] Nope [07:02] ok, I wont guess. [07:02] Field support. Install the hardware , install and configure the software , create the user id's , do the assets , and lots of spoon feeding for users [07:03] cp [07:05] Oi vei , wanted to do a quick PS4 setting , now I must do a 300mb update first. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [07:25] mazal sent a call me [07:26] you should see it [07:26] also you can use a thing called modem manager gui i think its called [07:26] K thanx , will check when I'm done online [07:26] thn you can see smsss [07:27] O crap , I just relized I can't buy airtime while sim is on router :( [07:27] you can if you use this link in browser [07:27] And almost all my data up again. Damn [07:28] https://kya.8ta.com/onnet/public/mobileData?sid=2750014401488938413 [07:28] No the Inet banking sent a confirmatiom message that I must reply on from phone [07:28] oh you not telkom sorry [07:28] While the browser is open [07:28] So can't be done [07:29] ai! [07:29] Ok gotta go , have a nice day everyone [07:29] when you getting your afihost sim [07:29] you too [07:29] ai! [09:01] open a private message thing to yourself for practising in [09:01] ai! [09:07] Kilos: don't break anything :) [09:12] lol [09:12] i have my ssd working again [09:13] only not it doesnt see repo stuff as authenticated so gotta sort that [09:17] Kilos: congrats! [09:19] hi [09:20] hi iqbal [09:20] long time no see [09:20] how are you? [09:20] ok ty and you? [09:20] ok ty [09:21] i don't spend enough time on my laptop [09:21] yeah looks like it [09:22] i was looking into getting whatsapp on my laptop but it seems confusing [09:22] i tried it in pidgin but also gave up [09:22] only use mxit and telegram now [09:23] stopped mxit years ago [09:24] i saw that there is a paid version and also some instructions to use an android emulator [09:24] lets hear what the whatapp users say [09:25] youll just have to wait long i thhik [09:25] think [09:26] ok [09:26] no big deal, just when i'm on my laptop, don't want to keep reaching for my phone [09:27] leave the laptop with the charger plugged in [09:28] iqbal: you can use the web version of whatsapp. [09:30] ty [09:30] good morning [09:30] i used it some time back on a windows laptop, i think [09:30] hi magespawn [09:32] wow, instantly working [09:32] ty [09:32] iqbal dont be so scarce [09:33] ok [09:33] we have a meeting on the 22nd here [09:33] a 8.30pm [09:33] what kind of meeting? [09:33] our monthly meeting [09:33] wait wrong date [09:34] 26th i think [09:34] yup this month is the 26th [09:34] there are some projects happening you might like to get involved with [09:35] inetpro topic bar replenishing please [09:36] what kind of projects? [09:41] Kilos: knock knock now [09:41] who is there [09:52] morning morning [09:52] I keep getting emails saying my membership is about to expire :o [09:52] spamming me daily xD [09:52] hehe [09:52] Thought I'd do the validation process :) [10:11] back [10:16] hi Rynomster ` [10:16] dont let it expire man follow the instructions in the first mail [11:52] good afternoon [11:55] Kilos: two issues [11:55] In German, possessive pronouns adjust themselves according to the noun they are referring to. [11:55] The list for gender and numerus is: 1. 'Mein' for singular masculin/neutral noun, 2. 'Meine' for a singular feminine noun, 3. 'Meine' for a plural masculin/neutral noun, or 4. 'Meine' for a plural feminin noun. [11:55] and the 2nd issue, German nouns are generally capitalised [11:56] in other words, that would be 'Guten morgen meine Herren' [11:56] oh and the 3rd issue, what about the ladies here? [12:08] hi inetpro [12:08] sorry i was struggling with xp pc [12:08] sigh [12:09] the ladies were offline [12:09] hehe [12:10] all that caps issue is too much to think about [12:10] thumping head [12:10] and i very seldom use caps , but, will try remember to do it correctly next time [12:11] but only to please you [12:11] and [12:11] stop the nagging [12:11] * Kilos hides [12:33] g9od afternoon all [12:33] good too [12:36] inetpro aws should send you a mail the day before your free tier usage expires [13:04] Kilos: good afternoon [13:20] hi magespawn [13:21] sorry im so slow ian busy packing to leave and he always leaves something behing so we checking everywhere [13:22] unpack the scanner [14:08] no worries [14:09] just trying irssi via termux on my phone Kilos [14:16] sjoe [14:16] ian gone [14:17] scanner went with him now bushtech ive done all i needed to do [14:17] he showed me one can use scanners without even connecting to a pc [14:18] you put the page in on top and a usb stick in the usb socket and click scan [14:18] will try tha with this hp when i have some energy [14:28] strangest thing happened here with ssd [14:29] warned drive was nearly full continuously so i deleted some stuff and it kept complaining [14:29] drive showed 101g used of a 128g ssd [14:30] i tried sweeper to clean and that messed up all links or keys or something [14:31] then removed some movies and pics to a 16g stick [14:31] clear all the tmp files [14:31] then rebooted and tried earier recovery [14:31] now it shows 7.8 used [14:31] where all the rest [14:32] 93g not used [14:32] so where did that bull come from [14:32] you cant put 93g on a 16g stick [14:37] inetpro lees ↑ [14:37] afternoon superfly why did you say we are weird yesterday? [14:45] Kilos: have you checked ssd with Disks? [14:46] ill do that now bush [14:46] ai! [14:49] overall assesment disk is ok [14:55] wb bushtech bad connection you have there hey [14:56] or are you playing yoyo at the same time [14:56] yes grrr busy getting to mtr [14:56] annoying hey [14:56] extremely [14:57] busy eyeing afrihost [14:57] move from voda to mtn [14:58] have you no telkom signal there [14:58] zip [14:58] i started here with mtn then cellc then vodacom and 8ta beats then all price and performance wise [14:59] will check 8ta coverage [15:02] 8ta has roaming 3g coverage but telkom 3g doesn't [15:03] im not sure what the roaming thing does as im vas in een plek hear [15:04] i thought 8ta and telkom is the same thing [15:04] yeah typical telkom : we aim to confuse [15:04] lol [15:04] its on the same map. vastly different coverage [15:05] i very seldom have hassles and when i do its from storm damage [15:06] my connection is very stable [15:06] so is inetpro s [15:06] I can only dream [15:07] can you judge your distance from the tower [15:07] no such thing as a stable connection around here [15:08] I know exactly. Let me just find [15:09] 15km [15:09] as long as you get 3 bars or more signal strength it should be stable [15:09] that quite far [15:09] are any of the others closer? [15:10] you can also use a router with an external antenna like pro [15:10] external antenna boost signal lots [15:11] I am [15:11] router with yagi [15:11] yeah [15:11] what isp atm voda? [15:11] voda [15:12] my sis used voda but their service is shocking [15:12] she spent 4 months with no data connection then switched to 8ta as well [15:12] sheesh! 4 months [15:13] but the fone showed 5 bars and worked fine for calls [15:13] basebal bat time [15:13] haha [15:13] i used to let her get wifi from me [15:13] making a phone call around here is very amusing [15:13] she kept saying they are planning to fix it this week [15:13] haha [15:14] what appens there [15:14] h [15:14] people standing on chairs and heads out of windows [15:14] eish [15:14] external antenna only way then [15:15] does nothing for phone sig [15:15] wow [15:15] that sucks [15:15] and no adsl i take it [15:15] nada [15:15] eish [15:16] service actually sucks in za [15:17] tell me about it [15:31] inetpro thinks if he keeps quiet he will get away with not having set the topis bar rightweeks ago already [15:32] govt employees all work on the more is nog n dag attitude [15:39] Icon 'gtk-new' not present in theme at /usr/share/perl5/ClamTk/GUI.pm line 259. [15:39] why doesnt nano show line numbers? [15:39] sigh [15:39] to much to count [15:41] you need to activate numers in nano [15:41] numBers [15:42] oh my [15:43] http://askubuntu.com/questions/73444/how-to-show-line-numbering-in-nano-when-opening-a-file [15:43] ty bushy [15:43] old heads battle to count [15:44] need all the help we can get [15:44] wonderfull ty so much [15:44] i have at times counted line for line [15:44] you also old? [15:44] goodness me [15:45] Eish! me not have that much patience [15:45] i get quite lonely at times [15:45] most here are younger than my son [15:46] and young peeps definitely speak a different language [15:46] not many oldies play w/ keyboards [15:47] langjan and i and now you [15:47] woooot we getting there [15:47] and goosie isnt a youngster anymore either [15:47] but got my 85 yo mil into using whatsapp couple months ago [15:48] beeg noddy badge [15:48] sjoe [15:48] the biggie was getting her to use the notepad [15:49] lol [15:56] you need to explain mil. l to far from m to be a typo [15:56] mothr in law [15:57] oh ya ty [15:59] Maaz tell cryterion You need to give links here lad, via fb often wont be seen [15:59] Kilos: Righto, I'll tell Cryterion on freenode [16:35] haha hi Cryterion [16:39] http://www.techworm.net/2016/04/ubuntu-everywhere-infographic.html [16:39] is that better ;) [16:40] Hi Kilos [16:40] hehe ty young man [16:40] havent you read in fb that i hate it [16:41] dont think i follow even 5 peeps [16:42] yeah I know, sometimes forget [16:42] lol np [16:42] i try go there as little as possible [16:42] I might be young to you, but still not that young :)- [16:48] wow ty Cryterion very interesting [16:48] nearly everyone here is young to me [16:48] but im honoured to be one of you and call you all friends [16:58] funny, call any woman over 30 young lady and you get a lovely smile [16:58] men say im not that young [17:20] bush[tab]: ping [17:20] oops [17:21] * inetpro likes that new acronym [17:21] Kilos: my mil turned 85 today [17:26] wow [17:26] inetpro dunno if i must nag or what [17:26] topic bar [17:27] relax, tomorrow is another day [17:27] hahahahahaha [17:27] hi Langjan [17:28] Okm it took a long time to connect, hi Kilos hoe gaan dit met jou? [17:28] first cearance received and sent to the online visa site [17:28] wat het jy nou gebreek? [17:29] So things are happening at last [17:29] en hoe gaan dit daar [17:29] Niks nie man! [17:29] alles wel dankie [17:29] en met jou? [17:29] yes no i just hope they dont want to try check that its correct because that will add more months [17:30] last time the whole procedure took 2 years [17:30] im happy to hear you broke nothing [17:31] Eish! So what has been approved and what is still required? [17:31] oh ja you been playing with balls again [17:31] Yes for 5 days, rolled about 500 balls and they all went skew! [17:31] the clearance gets checked by a place called vaccu in melbourne then sent to visa peeps here [17:31] wow [17:32] they supposed to go crooked arent they [17:32] Yes! Now you tell me! [17:32] lol [17:33] So any indication when visa will be ready? [17:33] haha inetpro i get to use it [17:33] Langjan inetpro 's mil turned 85 today [17:34] lets hear the comment [17:34] Use what? mil? [17:34] hahahahahaha [17:34] mother in law [17:35] oh, wow! Hartlik geluk aan haar inetpro [17:35] i had to ask what it meant earlier [17:35] dankie oom Jan [17:35] kom julle darem goed oor die weg? [17:35] vir haar man nie vir jou nie [17:35] ten minste hoef ek nie daai woord uit te tippex vir die oom nie [17:35] lmga [17:35] lol [17:36] Reminds me of the guy who said his mil is a real angel [17:36] i have never heard it before [17:36] so his pal says youre lucky, mine is still alive [17:37] ten mins after seeing it used i asked what it was [17:37] Langjan: nee, ek dink jy verstaan verkeerd, die woord wat ek moet uit tippex vir Kilos is 'oom' [17:37] hy wil nie meer daai woord sien nie [17:37] ok, en vir my? seker oupa [17:37] haha :-) [17:38] Yip Wie's jou $%#@ oom? [17:38] Hoe gaan diyt met jou bome inetpro ? [17:38] hi bushtech [17:38] oom² Jan [17:38] lmga [17:38] naand Langjan [17:38] Langjan bushtech se hy is ook oud [17:39] maar se nie hoe oud nie [17:39] Langjan: die bome loop weer uit [17:39] ok, mens is so oud soos jy voel [17:39] careful now [17:39] eks 21 [17:39] haha [17:39] bushtech: stadig meneer... ons het jong mense ook hier [17:40] ai! [17:40] probleem is ouens gaan op 50 dood en word op 75 begrawe [17:40] haha you didnt use tab complete [17:40] wie? [17:40] Kilos: I did, before he left but I was still completing the sentence [17:40] ah [17:41] sigh! [17:41] bushtech wb [17:41] haha [17:41] wb? [17:41] bushtech: stadig met die taal hier asb meneer... ons het jong mense ook hier [17:41] you can read that? [17:42] bushtech, is jy die sensor wat die jong manne in toom hou? [17:42] welcome back [17:42] nee ek is aan die ander kant van die draad [17:43] watter taal inetpro [17:43] im lost here [17:43] wat gebeur daardie kant? [17:43] oom Kilos, daai snaakse karakters beteken net een ding [17:43] die peine begin [17:43] word gesensor [17:44] ek kan nie help as die jong ouens vuil gedagtes het nie [17:44] en die ou manne? [17:44] inetpro waar sien jy snaakse karakters [17:44] Kilos: 04/10 19:38:05 Yip Wie's jou $%#@ oom? [17:45] aan hulle is geen salf te smeer nie [17:45] o daai [17:46] Ja tolk asb klaat ek kan sien wat die manne te se het [17:46] inetpro waar kry jy swart tippex [17:47] lol [17:47] Kilos: ek maak dit self [17:47] sjoe slim ne [17:48] ek dink inetpro het so 'n ry tippex botteltjies langs sy muis [17:48] lol [17:49] OK julle manne, geniet die aand - ek groet julle. [17:49] cheers Langjan [17:49] dankie vir die kuiertjie Langjan [17:49] pas julle mooi op [17:50] O net voor ek gaan, ek het 'n 24 duim Philips monitor op 'n uitverkoping raakgeloop, nou word my nek seer van al die heen en weer... [17:51] het al die kleure van die reenboog hier [17:51] sjoe [17:51] jy maak my oog seer man [17:51] skuif hom verder terug?? [17:51] haha [17:52] lmga, dan word hy weer klein - dan het ek my geld gemors - lmga [17:52] of sit agtertoe [17:52] bushtech gaan koop een van al die sim kaarte, hulle is goedkoop by checkers ens [17:52] dan kan jy met jou foon sien watter syn is die beste [17:52] Langjan: https://peperperspective.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/optimum-sitting-position.jpg [17:53] simkaart waarvoor? [17:53] nie'n sleg idee nie Kilos dankie [17:53] 3g [17:53] Dankie inetpro eintlik spot ek net maar sal in elk geval kyk [17:53] vir my vrot konneksie [17:53] kyk vir wat [17:54] die link na sitting positions [17:54] oh [17:54] OK ek groet julle, lekker aand verder [17:54] mooi loop oom Jan [17:55] totsiens my vriend [17:55] dankie inetpro en Kilos mooi loop [17:55] en bushtech ook [18:00] felt quite comfy there for a while with ballies around [18:01] oh inetpro [18:01] im thinking of a reinstall [18:01] ssd got kinda corrupt [18:01] so rsync /home and what else to have minimal work [18:04] ya, tell Kilos , I wont follow. [18:04] * pavlushka ^^ [18:04] hi pavlushka [18:04] aw pity mail set to 30 checks [18:05] Hi, I m watching python video, wish me luck. [18:05] langjan got away before i read his [18:05] hehe [18:05] When I try to connect on xchat the sign in the bar on left hand bottom runs backwards and forwards as if searching but no connection - don't worry, I have not broken anything.:-P [18:05] good luck pavlushka [18:06] concentrate and learn [18:06] but I feel sleepy, need some unwinding! [18:06] well its midnight [18:06] normal peeps sleep before that [18:07] yeah, python reminded me that. [18:07] watch when you are wide awake man [18:07] so you can understand better [18:08] okey doky [18:08] inetpro: why your lines are shaded? [18:08] copy it so you can watch over and over [18:09] he was showing all the colours tippex he has [18:10] I usually do that to save data but need to sure I am not wasting my time. [18:10] lol @ tippex [18:10] hehe [18:10] if they made a movie about it then it must be worth something so save it [18:11] lol [18:12] Kilos: what the problem is sir? [18:12] it says some packages from repo arent autheticated and [18:12] i installed clamtk and that wont run [18:13] tried from cli and got an error [18:13] Icon 'gtk-new' not present in theme at /usr/share/perl5/ClamTk/GUI.pm line 259 [18:14] i like things to work first time [18:15] oh and inetpro it said it was near full so i moved vids and pics to 16g stick [18:15] rebooted and it now say im only using 7.2 g [18:16] so where is the other 90+g [18:16] didnt all go hide on the 16g stick [18:17] superfly: didn't you mention that he's weird? [18:17] so somewhere there is corruption and clean install is the quickest easiest way to fix [18:17] inetpro: so are you [18:17] oh my [18:17] i asked him why [18:17] hahahahahaha [18:17] whyyyyy [18:18] hee hee [18:18] you copy 90GB to a 16GB drive and expect the data to be available? [18:18] nono [18:18] i copied about 12g [18:19] and now only using 7.2 gig of the drive [18:20] superfly now you shut him up [18:20] he thought he was gonna get away with it [18:21] sorry oom Kilos but I don't get it... somewhere in this story you're not telling us all the details [18:21] no man [18:21] if i knew all the details i would ask [18:22] there is 90 gig missing but eveything is here [18:23] oh i also deleted all sent and trash thunderbird mails and did the file thing [18:23] file compact folders [18:24] "there is 90 gig missing but eveything is here" sounds like a oxymoron [18:24] aparently that cleans out deleted mails [18:24] man [18:24] stop asking questions just tell me what else to rsync so i can clean install [18:30] inetpro could also be the ssd thats not good even though disks says it is [18:30] it was discarded by windows peeps before [18:32] superfly we are waiting to hear why we are weird in your eyes [18:34] and is it just to you or does everyone see us that way [18:34] ?? [18:35] Kilos: may be, ^ [18:35] lol [18:35] where is your up arrow pavlushka [18:35] put it here [18:35] Kilos: you use that silly free operating system! [18:35] ↑ [18:36] so do you superfly [18:36] inetpro: ^^ [18:36] he has gone to sleep [18:36] Kilos: lies. I use Debian. [18:37] it's not silly. [18:37] :-P [18:37] hahahaha [18:37] so no 16.04?? [18:37] whats that word you use [18:37] hmm... [18:38] ah [18:38] hogwash [18:38] superfly: I heard you saying, I can testify against you. [18:38] pavlushka superfly is a python master [18:39] superfly: that you are testing 16.04 in your laptop, :p [18:40] when I get my SSD I'm dropping Kubuntu for Debian KDE. [18:40] he just enjoys stirring the pot now and again [18:40] serious? [18:40] Kilos: serious [18:40] sjoe [18:40] traitor [18:41] n ill still keep you in my friend circle [18:41] nm [18:45] superfly: is debian is paid? [18:46] pavlushka: what do you mean "paid"? is it commercial? no [18:46] pavlushka: don't believe anything he says [18:47] lol [18:47] rofl [18:47] oops... I'm just joking [18:47] sorry Kilos but I'm busy with something else here [18:48] np [18:48] to my knowledge debian was free and its soft collection is huge, sizing 7 GB [18:48] the 7.6 version. [18:49] with multiple dvds. [18:50] So superfly: inetpro knows the secret about you then? [18:51] pavlushka: inetpro knows more than he lets on [18:52] does he know which toothpaste you use? [18:53] superfly: ? [18:53] he is busy pavlushka [18:53] pavlushka: I'm not sure... you'll have to ask him [18:54] we lucky he finds anytime to chat [18:54] till half way through july [18:54] you have heard of debconf pavlushka ? [18:55] yes I was in that meeting [18:55] right he is one of the organizers [18:55] but cant remember who was selected to go [18:56] i think cryterion said he is going to try go [18:57] * pavlushka burps [18:57] yes him [18:57] * pavlushka its tasty! [18:59] Kilos: is Cryterion busy packing then? [18:59] or he has gone already? [19:00] its still some months ahead [19:00] april may june then only july [19:00] ok, Cryterion, you can unpack your bags then, :p [19:01] Hi, can't promise I will make it, but will try, it'll depend on work load nearer the time [19:02] Hi how are you Cryterion ? [19:02] I was pinging you intentionally,:p [19:02] lol, all good and yourself [19:03] Yeah, same hear, all goods, no documents, ;p [19:08] have I told a lullaby? [19:08] *sang a lullaby [19:13] sung [19:14] lullabies are song you sing to put babies to sleep [19:34] and for me, good night guys! [19:36] sleep tight [19:54] night all. sleep tight [19:54] inetpro ^^ [19:54] sleep earlier superfly . see you tomorrow