[07:32] Unit193: ok [09:42] jjfrv8, dkessel: want to add any comments to http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-mm-cloud ? [09:42] pleia2, ^ you too [09:43] also anybody interested can check http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-mm-other [09:44] I did look - just to see if I was interested in that cloudy foofoo stuff - but wasn't :p [09:45] flocculant, sigh :) [09:46] flocculant, i understand you don't like the cloud stuff, and i don't like it much either, but it's still a huge thing for many, so please :) [09:46] anyway, can you log in to any of our wordpress sites? [09:47] i still can't, and i even filed an RT ticket [09:47] going to be fun if this continues to next week [09:47] knome: I did look - nothing I could add [09:47] no worries [09:47] but that WP thing??!! :P [09:48] knome: checking [09:48] thanks [09:48] mmm [09:48] Firefox can't find the server at login.ubuntu.com [09:48] oh [09:48] it can for me though [09:48] hang on [09:49] in to contest [09:49] i mean at least if i access that url [09:49] on contest it tries to access login.launchpad.net for me (atm) [09:50] if i go to that or l.o.c manually on the browser, it loads and shows my login stuff [09:50] can't seemingly login to the normal wordpress place [09:50] yeah [09:50] :( [09:51] chromium fails too for the normal wp - dns address not found [09:51] by normal you mean the main site? :P [09:51] yea [09:51] yep [09:51] sigh [09:51] i don't think it's a browser issue [09:52] seems not [09:52] but it's also not completely a ubuntu one issue [09:52] because i've got better luck logging in to pad today [09:52] and logging in to rt.ubuntu.com works with no problems [09:52] same with relogging to launchpad [09:52] knome: well getting to main site - fails at login.ubuntu.com [09:53] packages.qa.ubuntu.com seems to be down [09:53] yeah, i'm just getting to the "please wait" page, then it waits on login.ubuntu.com/launchpad.net [09:53] eventually i got the "connection reset" eg. too slow to respond message [09:53] iso.qa same [09:53] crappety crap [09:54] that's not even wordpress [09:54] right [09:55] hmm [09:55] that works for me though [09:55] and now i got to a different place with x.org too [09:55] and from trusty vm I am in to the main site [09:56] but still not logging [09:56] huh [09:56] o.o [09:56] so maybe it's some new security stuff in browsers [09:56] * knome installs midori [09:56] and to iso.qa [09:56] yep, iso.qa worked for me with ff [09:57] mmm [09:57] not installing midori here ... [09:57] Cannot initiate the connection to archive.ubuntu.com:80 [09:58] uhh [09:58] so maybe it's a server connectivity problem [09:58] can't login with midori either.. [09:58] can you apt-get update? [09:59] Err:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease [09:59] Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com' [09:59] with fi.archive [09:59] right - set to main here [09:59] and i got a ping reply from archive. [09:59] but since it's pointing to several mirrors... [10:00] no, i'm consistently getting ping replies [10:00] UK is failing - but unsurprising - probably in the same room :p [10:00] 2,817 B/s to UK ... [10:01] connects fine to some random US server [10:01] maybe you are redirected to different mirrors based on your location [10:02] well generally I stick to Main [10:02] yeah but that still isn't just one place [10:02] it's just a frontend to several mirrors [10:02] so it might decide X is better for you [10:02] but that Y is better for me [10:02] and if Y works, i don't get the error [10:02] well the UK one should be in the UK - that was dog slow [10:02] otoh, if X doesn't... [10:02] heh [10:02] US one works [10:02] but [10:02] mhm [10:03] that doesn't surely make any difference to me getting x.org login from trusty but not xenial [10:03] no [10:03] and i'm no wily [10:04] *on [10:04] now the login says "waiting for xubuntu.org..." [10:04] * flocculant checks the wily vm [10:05] iso.qa fails in wily lol [10:05] nope.. [10:05] :P [10:05] i think what we can figure out here is that it's related to the web services [10:05] not us :P [10:06] can get to wp admin on wily :) [10:06] * knome facepalms [10:06] while you are there then [10:06] yep pretty confident that's the case [10:06] do one thing [10:06] go to users and find knome [10:06] click on knome [10:06] hang on ... [10:06] at the bottom of that page, you should have a button that says "log off everywhere" [10:07] logged you out [10:07] ta [10:08] * knome retries [10:08] nope [10:08] now i'm back to the worse situation :D [10:08] not even asked for the login details [10:08] oh dear [10:08] now i am [10:08] and Sunday and no vanguard ... [10:08] but still not being able to login.. [10:09] indeed [10:09] wait [10:09] i'm in [10:09] what [10:09] * knome blinks [10:09] oh meh [10:10] i logged out [10:10] let's see if i can log in [10:10] :Ð [10:10] nope [10:10] ;)= [10:11] so you are unable to login from wily? [10:11] i did it once [10:11] but i logged out [10:11] i mean - i don't need to change anything now [10:11] yup [10:11] i need to be able to log in tomorrow [10:11] so i want it to work [10:11] :) [10:11] and ok, i can log in now again [10:11] but not every time i think [10:11] no, now it worked again [10:12] but not now when i restarted ff [10:13] I logged out of wily one - logged in, logged out at trusty - can't login [10:13] yep [10:13] this totally sounds/looks like a connectivity issue [10:13] yup [10:13] something isn't replying properly [10:13] ok, let's hope we can log in tomorrow :P [10:14] and I'm back to being able to apt from Main [10:14] :D [10:14] good [10:15] and I logged into wp from xenial in midori [10:16] eh [10:16] and I logged into wp from xenial in ff [10:16] i didn't [10:17] someone went into the office and fed the hamsters perhaps ... [10:17] log out then login worked [10:18] i just logged in :P [10:18] this is silly [10:18] now that we are in [10:18] are we happy with the mugshot article? [10:18] good morning [10:18] hello bluesabre [10:19] bluesabre: This early on a Sunday? :( [10:19] bluesabre: morning :) [10:19] Unit193: yeah :( [10:20] knome: should https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubunty-y-marketing really be xubunty ... [10:20] yy [10:20] :P [10:20] flocculant, what do you mean [10:20] knome: "If you have a webcam connected, you can use it to take a photo of yourself to use." - broken and disabled in xenial [10:20] you obviously mean https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-y-marketing [10:20] flocculant, ;d [10:21] bluesabre: If it makes you feel better, I'm awake, not still awake. [10:21] knome: that'll make the filters work properly then ;) [10:21] what filters? [10:22] thunderbird ones [10:22] aha :D [10:22] not Thunderbird 1 [10:22] :p [10:22] sure? [10:22] yup [10:22] always preferred Thundebird 4 - much easier to make with lego in the 70's [10:22] ;) [10:23] anyway - mugshot article looks ok to me assuming bluesabre is ok with us saying "Normal users can only change their image and some fields." [10:23] it doesn't say that though [10:23] because I still haven't checked which fields a normal user [10:23] :D [10:24] knome: I'm looking at the preview, unless you recently changed it [10:24] relatively [10:24] like, today [10:24] i changed the intro

[10:24] now it's long [10:24] it was short before [10:24] right - so it STILL says 'some fields' [10:24] i didn't touch any of the actual article thoug [10:25] indeed [10:25] * knome is the wooden eye today [10:25] :p [10:25] can't check right now - trusty upgrade in vm half done [10:25] sure [10:26] I'll look in a bit and update the post [10:26] sure, thanks [10:28] bluesabre, i guess you would fancy all the contest winners [10:28] knome: oh yea you remind me [10:29] yep, typo fix [10:29] have you cropped the ones needing cropping yet? [10:29] yes [10:29] i've poked bluesabre with them in PM [10:29] and have we sorted out the name changes we know about [10:29] no [10:30] i'm probably just going to disable openid logins on contest. very soon [10:30] and log in there [10:30] with local login, that is [10:30] k [10:30] but first, a visit to the gents :P [10:30] :) [10:36] knome: our wiki - forgot my password - it says it's sent a confirmation link - no it hasn't ... [10:38] flocculant, hah :) [10:38] flocculant, i'll debug that soon [10:39] in the meantime set it to something please and I'll change it :) [10:40] flocculant, PM [10:40] flocculant, and see how i made sure you change it :P [10:41] lol [10:42] and done [10:42] asap [10:42] :) [10:42] yep [10:52] knome: how to add an image to wiki page? don't appear to be able to grab something from local [10:53] nvm - found it by slowly mousing over every word ... [10:54] flocculant, that's not perfect yet, but yeah... [10:54] bizarre [10:54] it failed seemingly [10:54] then when I hit done - it had a go and it worked :p [10:55] :D [11:00] knome: shall make a start on the iso page now - I assume that qa/foo works for naming new pages [11:05] flocculant, ack, that's the designed naming convention [11:06] they will appear on the order of the pagename (not title) on the sitemap [11:06] and the first ===== Title ===== will be what's visible in the sitemap [11:15] knome: ok - thanks :) [11:18] bluesabre: just finishing the mugshot post for knome - only fields a normal user cannot change appear to be phone numbers - just want to check that's right before fiddling with the post :) [11:23] flocculant: correct [11:24] bluesabre: awesome - thanks, can do that and forget about it :) [11:24] assuming I can login still ... [11:27] knome: ok - done mugshot now - details are correct. Whether we actually want to be that specific I don't know - so you can remove things if you wish :) [11:39] knome: is there to be an announcement page for the winners (so I can have a copyright source) [11:42] bluesabre, no [11:43] :'( [11:46] let's see if i can log in and create one [11:56] g'day everyone [11:56] hello ochosi [11:56] only around for a few mins now [11:56] * knome starts the clock [11:57] but quickly wanted to check in and see how things are going with the walls [11:57] knome: the panel layout post might benefit from an image [11:57] ochosi: hey there :) [11:57] flocculant, mhm [11:57] and whether there are any other open issues [11:57] flocculant, though i can't log in right now, so... [11:57] so i can plan some time this week to take care of some [11:57] knome: mmm - I am [11:57] ochosi, yeah, ubuntu one logins suck :P [11:57] heh [11:57] so we need our own single-sign-on? :) [11:57] ha ha ha [11:58] don't you have an oauth provider for knome.fi? (: [11:58] ochosi, there's the thunar stuff that would benefit from some sort of resolution, whether it was fixing the bugs or downgrading the version in xenial [11:58] what thunar stuff? [11:58] the crashes [11:58] i saw some bugreports, what's the problem concretely? [11:59] sometimes when you rename a file, thunar crashes [11:59] and sometimes isn't once in a full moon, it's almost daily [11:59] ochosi, and for more things to do, obviously anything from http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-details/s=todo,inprogress,blocked+sort=assignee+sortdir=asc [12:00] ;) [12:00] ochosi, it's 4 minutes now, isn't that already over "a few"? :P [12:00] yeah, we're slowly getting there ;) [12:01] right, but what's the culprit for the thunar crashes? is that identified already? (since you suggested downgrading thunar) [12:01] not exactly, but since the previous versions had no crashes... [12:02] ochosi, http://pad.ubuntu.com/thunar-bug [12:02] ochosi, ^ there's something that crashes thunar for me [12:02] well could be a problem in gvfs and then affect earlier versions of thunar to [12:02] it's also relatively reliable [12:02] o [12:02] maybe [12:02] but the whole situation is crap [12:02] (: [12:03] so you've tried downgrading thunar and that helped? [12:03] no [12:03] k [12:03] so it's just an idea [12:03] i don't know where i picked that information, but somebody said something about 1.6.1 [12:03] i've been busy with non-thunar things, you know [12:04] that's a fairly old version [12:04] yeah... [12:04] anyway, i was just giving you ideas on what to do since you asked ;) [12:06] sure :) [12:06] i can try to start by reproducing the bug [12:07] indeed [12:07] though you are running at 11 minutes [12:07] tut tut! [12:07] :) [12:08] i'll boot up my xenial vbox too, update and do more tests with thunar [12:08] Oh joy, thunar... [12:11] and the wallpaper stuff is going good? [12:11] (last question then i'll run) [12:11] slowly but steadily [12:12] okeydokey [12:12] bbl ;) [12:12] hf [12:14] hi guys, I wanted to work on translation of lightDM GTK+ Greeter, but what is this package exactly ? [12:14] the lightdm greeter theme [12:15] you are late for 16.04 though [12:15] oh, really ? [12:15] It will be for next release, so [12:15] indeed, the translation deadline was last thursday [12:15] ooh... [12:16] I have light Locker Settings on my xubuntu 14.04, is it the same software ? I don't think so... [12:16] no [12:16] the greeter doesn't appear as a software - it is what is used on the login screen [12:18] oh, ok. [12:18] translations for this package are weird... [12:19] ? [12:20] for example, look here : https://translations.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings/trunk/+pots/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings/fr/+translate?start=0&batch=10&show=untranslated&field.alternative_language=&field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&old_show=all [12:20] the first item is "full" in english, and the context is "option|greeter|xft-hintstyle" [12:20] what's weird in that? [12:20] but it doesn't really help me. How can I find where this item is used ? [12:20] not weird, sorry. [12:21] in the login screen [12:21] ok, I will try with a vm. Thansk [12:21] thanks [12:49] knome: can't even access that pad, Launchpad sso takes forever... [12:50] dkessel, egh, i know, i've been rambling about that for two days :( [12:50] dkessel, basically, if you have any comments about spotify/pandora/google play music you want to share... [12:50] dkessel, you can paste your comment on the channel too [12:51] Ok not using any of these [12:51] what are you using then? [12:51] dkessel: It's a trap! [12:54] haha. amazon. [12:54] knome: only just saw the mm-other one [12:55] flocculant, np, it hasn't been in existence for a long time [12:56] well today i'm unable to reproduce the thunar crash bug [12:56] I must have scanned the name as mm when I looked this morning [12:56] so maybe the situation isn't as bad as it was [12:56] *as i thought it was [12:56] mole moley [12:56] knome: What version? [12:56] Unit193, the one in staging [12:56] Wow, that's good: The requested URL /openid/ was not found on this server [12:57] Unit193, indeed, the logins are wonky [12:57] knome: so you'd not tested the staging one previously? [12:57] just go to the real URL again [12:57] flocculant, i had... [12:57] oh - ok - just checking :) [12:57] at least i'm pretty sure i had [12:57] things are a bit blurry in my head :D [12:57] for various reasons... [12:58] well - here when someone says thunar it immediately gets blurry :p [12:58] maybe [13:01] linking bug 1512120 to the bugs blueprint [13:01] bug 1512120 in thunar (Ubuntu) "thunar crashes on file renaming" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512120 [13:01] i also commented on the bug, asking for tests with the staging PPA [13:03] xubuntu-community-artwork package *slowly* uploading to -staging ppa [13:03] bug 1311926 [13:03] bug 1311926 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Renaming Bug in Thunar " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1311926 [13:03] that's for the other issue in the pad [13:04] well not exactly, but one of the symptoms related to that behavior [13:04] bbl [13:05] oh [13:05] I need to move the meeting back... have to drop my wife off for her chicago trip in the middle of the meeting time [13:06] bluesabre: I'll be about whenever [13:06] bluesabre: Make it a short one. ;) [13:06] :D [13:06] we like to rattle on sometimes, not so easy [13:07] not of late ;) [13:07] bluesabre: Tip, /mode +m [13:07] :D [13:07] maybe... 17:30 UTC? [13:07] bluesabre: But yeah, that's fine as far as I'm concerned too. I'll check backlog. [13:10] bluesabre: that's forward :p [13:12] back/forward, all tricky when applied to time [13:13] yep for sure :) [13:14] changed in all the relevant places [13:14] bbl [13:14] bluesabre, move the meeting to your back! [13:14] * knome reserves the soft seat [13:14] * flocculant won't comment [13:14] on that [13:14] knome: added tomahawk to mm-other [13:14] ack [13:15] btw, if you want and know the dev communities, feel free to ask for short passages for the article [13:15] (a la amarok) [13:16] I don't [13:16] or if you are feeling adventurous [13:16] :P [13:16] the tomahawk irc channel might even be active [13:17] I added some to the amarok note too btw [13:17] noticed [13:17] i'm disconnected... [13:17] :) [13:17] (surprise) [13:17] let's see if i can log back in [13:18] noep [13:18] sigh [13:18] :) [13:18] now i am [13:19] you could try the wiki - but you'd not know if it was *this* making it slow to login :p [13:19] :P [13:19] i prefer pad when collaborating [13:19] we could use any other pad though [13:19] yea [13:19] but since this is already here.. [13:19] :) [13:20] the no space between website and parenthesis is intentional btw [13:20] ok [13:20] that reminds me i should make those urls links with the website text [13:21] knome: I would say do you want this put on x.org - but then you'd not be able to edit :D [13:21] yep... [13:21] and i do want to, at some point [13:21] but not yet, because it's still in flux [13:23] yup [13:25] so i added a list of the irc channels on the pad if somebody wishes to go poking [13:27] on and off from kb again [13:32] flocculant: xubuntu-community-artwork is in -staging now, if you want to take a peek [13:33] bluesabre: \o/ [13:34] 20MB - not too bad then - much smaller than a font package ... [13:39] really should clean up the wallpaper folder here - not really a need for 293 images ... [13:47] bluesabre: if you by chance do anything with release note between now and release - please do that at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/FinalRelease/Xubuntu [13:48] the one I use to base them off is now cleared [13:48] wandering off now [17:26] !team | meeting in 4 minutes :) [17:26] meeting in 4 minutes :): bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 [17:26] bluesabre: going to be in and out a bit [17:27] flocculant: np [17:27] flocculant: your name isn't until the end anyway [17:29] would be easier if it was at the beginning :p [17:30] #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting [17:30] Meeting started Sun Apr 10 17:30:21 2016 UTC. The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [17:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [17:30] Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [17:30] Hey everyone! Who's here for the meeting? [17:30] o/ [17:31] I'll give folks a few minutes to roll in [17:31] o/ [17:32] bluesabre: just while we're doing that - the wallpaper package seems to want to be autoremoved [17:32] hey pleia2 [17:32] flocculant: hm? [17:33] flocculant: there might be some tweaks I need to do to the package, I'll check it out after the meeting [17:33] okey doke [17:35] looks like this could be a short meeting [17:35] o/ [17:35] made it [17:35] yesss [17:35] hi slickymaster [17:35] hi bluesabre [17:35] now we probably have enough to have a discussion [17:35] hi flocculant and pleia2 [17:35] #topic Open Action Items [17:36] Pretty sure there are none... [17:36] nothing in the agenda anyway [17:36] yup [17:36] next up [17:36] #topic Updates and Announcements [17:37] the article series' seem to be getting a lot of views on social media, good feedback here and there [17:37] not overwhelmingly so, but for short articles I think it's gone well [17:37] at least 1 I read was of the 'these are useful' type :) [17:37] afaik not many left to go [17:38] #info The non-language pack translation deadline was Thursday April 8, so no more translations for our apps [17:38] hi, I'm here ;) [17:38] pleia2: that's good to hear :) [17:38] hi Nairwolf [17:39] #info "The small details" and "My media manager" article series' are doing well [17:39] pleia2: I've contacted the french team of xubuntu.fr, and I will translate these articles for french community. [17:39] #info the wallpaper contest has concluded and the winners have been chosen. A new xubuntu-community-artwork package will be uploaded today with the new wallpapers [17:39] oh, great ! [17:39] #info Final Freeze and RC are just 4 days away [17:40] #undo [17:40] RC might be :p [17:40] oh sorry - not reading properly [17:40] Nairwolf: did we agree to do that? I thought the articles were not part of our translation plan [17:40] flocculant: #redo? :D [17:41] we wanted to focus on a set of to-be-determined core content from the website first [17:41] #info Final Freeze and RC are just 4 days away [17:41] pleia2: that was a personal initiative. Do you think it's a bad idea ? [17:42] Nairwolf: well, knome and I had already been talking about website translations, and since he's the website lead I would have checked with him before going out on your own [17:42] Nairwolf: websites are an important part of our branding, and we need to be in agreement about these things [17:42] so looping me in as marking lead would have been good too [17:42] we're also working with the owner of xubuntu.se to do similar [17:43] it's concerning to see a proliferation of other language sites that we have no influence over [17:44] ok, I've just sending a mail this morning. Don't worry. I will send a mail to you and to knome, in order to talk you about that. [17:44] thanks [17:44] Might be something worthwhile to include on the contributor docs going forward [17:45] bluesabre: ++ [17:45] yep [17:45] yes [17:45] * flocculant looks forward to when contr docs are more than a few little bits and loads of qa :p [17:45] Any other updates and/or announcements? [17:46] not that I'm aware of [17:46] probably safe to move on then [17:46] #topic Discussion [17:46] #subtopic PDF in docs [17:46] ^ knome, slickymaster, krytarik? [17:47] well, knome and krytarik are/were workinh on that [17:47] but as far as I know it's not solved yet [17:48] seems like a difficult task to fully resolve [17:48] fwiw, people I am in contact with on social media continue to like the idea of having them [17:48] thought it was [17:48] so it's valuable to get solved [17:48] yes [17:48] pdf's build locally here [17:48] aha [17:48] I think it is resolved [17:49] I thought it was [17:49] they don't in my xenial VM box [17:49] xubuntu-docs (16.04.3) xenial; urgency=medium [17:49] * Create temporary symlinks while creating PDFs (fixes FTBFS, thanks Krytarik) [17:49] * Drop contributor documentation from the default build [17:49] missed that one[5~ [17:49] thanks bluesabre [17:49] something might have broken since then, so don't take my word for it :D [17:50] that wraps up that topic then [17:50] #subtopic core situation [17:50] yeaps [17:50] ^ Unit193 [17:50] Pretty sure we're stuck in the same place on this one... we can't quite get our patches merged to enable this [17:51] yea - afaik no movement - there was discussion amongst us to target .1 [17:51] and if anything, we're not looking to include this in 16.04.0 since its so late already [17:51] yup [17:51] and Unit193's community build is failing to install afaik [17:51] ah [17:52] that's disappointing [17:52] and even if they came through tomorrow with core - you'd get a massive -1 from me now [17:52] much much too late ;) [17:52] yup, same here [17:52] so core is on hold for now [17:53] #subtopic Seeding Snappy [17:53] ^ (that's me and Unit193) [17:53] Unit193> [05:11:19] flocculant: So yes, failing still/now. Setting up locales again. [17:53] bluesabre: that's Unit193's build ^^ [17:53] flocculant: aha, thanks for that [17:54] Regarding Snappy, we had a (very) early meeting with Snappy folks a few days ago [17:54] brb [17:54] They're looking to include support for it in 16.04 [17:54] Snappy coexists alongside the debian packaging system, so this should in no way interfere with our current workflow [17:55] The consideration here is to include the snappy launcher in every flavor, or possibly let the flavors decide on their own [17:56] It looks like it would add ~26mb to the installation, though I suggested adding support in Gnome Software to just install the launcher when a snappy app is installed [17:56] and that's roughly all I have for that [17:57] (just letting everybody in to the loop there) [17:59] and with no decision on that in my head, next up [17:59] #subtopic Release Candidate [17:59] ^ flocculant [18:00] back just [18:01] so RC next week sometime [18:01] please try and get some testing of iso's done [18:01] pleia2: I'll make sure to mail LP testers about that too [18:02] pretty much nothing going on with the installer *we* can deal with [18:02] flocculant: is the installer haven't issues again? [18:02] upgrades seem to be ok now too - not that we'll be necessarily testing them [18:02] bluesabre: not that I know of [18:02] flocculant: great [18:02] I'll make sure it's shared [18:02] cool [18:03] bluesabre: well things like vm's never changes - and some of the odd crypt install/oem install things have bugs [18:03] flocculant: why re: not testing them? [18:03] pleia2: thanks :) [18:03] flocculant: I'm not sure to understand. Is it ok with upgrades ? [18:03] pleia2: upgrades? [18:03] upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 works ? [18:03] flocculant: yeah [18:03] because it's switched on for .1 usually [18:04] flocculant: I'm guessing we'll be sending a link to the in-progress release notes in the ML once the RC images are available so folks know what to look for? [18:04] so people *might* but they'll not be *prompted* by updates [18:04] flocculant: oh right, gotchat :) [18:04] -t [18:04] gochat? [18:04] :D [18:04] bluesabre: yup that's the plan [18:04] :) [18:04] flocculant: good deal :) [18:05] talking of which I'll just quickly mention wiki release note [18:05] next cycle - I'll be gettting that together at cycle start and using just the one for the whole cycle [18:05] from the releaseCandidate to the final Release, the iso can still evolve ? [18:06] it'll get updated throughout [18:06] Nairwolf: yes, there may still be bugs fixed in that time, and hopefully not too many other updates beside that [18:06] Nairwolf: for sure - if canonical and us fix things - it'll get respun [18:07] anything else in regards to the RC? [18:07] ok, so the finalFreeze isn't a real 'freeze', right ? [18:08] bluesabre: nope - all done :) [18:08] it's just fixing bugs, right ? [18:08] Nairwolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze [18:08] flocculant: thanks [18:09] #topic Any other business [18:09] bluesabre: Thanks ! [18:09] Anybody got anything else to add for the meeting? [18:09] not me [18:09] nothing heer [18:09] * here [18:10] pleia2: anything from you? (make it something awesome) [18:11] I love you all [18:11] that's it [18:11] well done [18:11] \o/ [18:11] \o/ [18:11] #topic Schedule next meeting [18:11] knome to schedule next meeting [18:11] meh [18:11] And we're out [18:11] too latae [18:11] ah [18:11] #undo [18:11] Removing item from minutes: TOPIC [18:11] sry, had to get the little one to bed [18:11] hi ochosi [18:12] let me see how quickly i can skim through the backlog [18:12] anything to add to the end of the meeting? [18:12] ok [18:12] or are there any concrete questions for me? [18:12] I don't know enough about concrete to make a good pun here [18:12] :( [18:13] hah [18:14] :) [18:14] alrighty, caught up [18:15] * bluesabre hands the mic to ochosi [18:15] not much from my side, i'm a bit unsure about where snappy will take us and whether the snappy launcher can't be a depend of all snappy packages (which begs the question why we need it by default) [18:16] but since this seems to be only the initial stage i guess we might have to wait a bit longer to see about that [18:16] ochosi: partially because snappy packages are not deb packages, so they can't auto-pull deb requirements (is my guess) [18:16] but yeah, kind of a wait and see game currently [18:16] i thought they shouldn't? (at least that's what i understood there) [18:17] thought they should be little independent thingies that have everything they need inside [18:17] except they need a launcher/runtime [18:17] but at the same time, I haven't played with it myself yet, so I can't say for sure [18:18] I'll see if I can get the next meeting at a time that you can also join in [18:18] ochosi: anything else for the meeting? [18:18] ok sure [18:18] no, nothing else [18:19] alrighty then [18:19] anybody else? [18:19] * bluesabre likes to stall [18:19] ummm [18:19] nope :p [18:19] :) [18:20] :) [18:20] Let's wrap it up then [18:20] yup [18:20] #topic Schedule next meeting [18:20] #info knome to schedule next meeting [18:20] #endmeeting [18:20] Meeting ended Sun Apr 10 18:20:16 2016 UTC. [18:20] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-04-10-17.30.moin.txt [18:20] thanks bluesabre :) [18:20] thanks bluesabre [18:20] thanks everybody, good meeting! [18:20] thanks for chairing [18:20] * slickymaster wonders off to the kitchen to prepare some sort of a dinner [18:21] I'd wander personally - but no idea what your house is like :p [18:21] makes you wonder, doesn't it [18:21] yea it does [18:22] this bug blueprint tracking is a pita, things on there sort of fixed - stay there :p [18:22] until I get around to the y blueprint and I'll move them ... [18:25] bluesabre: is bug 1402036 fixed? invalid or something [18:25] bug 1402036 in Mugshot "Mugshot authentication failed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1402036 [18:25] biab [18:28] wiki updated [18:30] flocculant: bug 1402036 ? [18:30] bug 1402036 in Mugshot "Mugshot authentication failed" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1402036 [18:31] looks fixed to me [18:31] >.> [18:32] bluesabre: i read that there are issues with light-locker-settings not starting up [18:32] not sure we're still maintaining that one [18:32] could be a trivial fix [18:33] or should we mark it dead somewhere somehow? [18:33] bluesabre: :p [18:34] ochosi: I'm going to try to get it working again today [18:34] but yes, should be trivial [18:35] must say it's nice to have people not in -team actually speaking up during meetings about things :) [18:37] yes, definitely [18:37] "community meeting" [18:37] bluesabre: nice :) [19:12] date&time is showing UTC+0 though UTC+6 is selected, syncing with ntp I guess, where's the problem? [19:14] internet sync selected, I am up but it is showing UTC+0 time for more than 6 hours now. [19:31] what? [19:32] quite honestly given all the issues you appear to get - I would clean install [19:36] the upgrades are not enough? [19:37] pavlushka: well you appear to have nothing but trouble - even ignoring the trying to get suspend working on the broken laptop [19:38] there often comes a time when it's just better to re-install - you are after all using an un-released version of xubuntu [19:40] ok, I am considering your suggestion,:p , actually its a :p to me. [19:40] Good night flocculant ! [19:51] knome: oh, I should chime in on this cloud player article, editing etherpad assuming it's not too late ;) [19:55] flocculant: got a good version of the package now that doesn't want to remove itself [19:56] I'll go ahead and upload this [19:56] * bluesabre really likes the community wallpapers this time around [19:59] I like ours more than the default Ubuntu ones (and I voted on those too) [20:02] pleia2, not too late [20:03] knome: ok, done :) [20:04] pleia2, Nairwolf: on translating articles to other language, i'm fine with that [20:05] but it will have to be hosted somewhere else than x.org [20:05] but since Nairwolf mentioned xubuntu.fr... [20:07] bluesabre: cheers :) [23:30] feed xubuntu-artwork had 16 updates, showing the latest 3