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| PeterViet2809 | What's the system requirements for Kubuntu? (sorry for my bad English)\ | 05:18 |
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| valorie | wow, can't wait 10 mins? | 05:26 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:51 |
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| Whicone | Hi, does anyone know about plasma phone? | 09:48 |
| Whicone | Is it based on ubuntu touch or it's a different project? | 09:49 |
| soee | pariance my friend ... | 09:54 |
| nicholas__ | evening | 11:02 |
| coz | Anyone playing csgo on linux frequently and can tell how much it compares in performance to windows? | 11:08 |
| hateball | coz: That sort of assumes people actually run Windows, does it not | 11:11 |
| hateball | coz: Otherwise there is #steamlug which is full of gamers, likely to get more response there than here I am thinking | 11:12 |
| coz | hateball yeah, I guess it does. Thanks! | 11:13 |
| hateball | coz: That said, I have just played a little and it was flawless for me at least. I am on an i5 and 770GTX | 11:15 |
| hateball | I know common problems mouse stuttering but there's fixes for that | 11:16 |
| coz | hateball: Alright, that sounds good. Do you know if they've fixed the scoreboard fpsdrop bug? It's currently a problem on windows atleast. | 11:17 |
| hateball | coz: Nope, no idea. Again, someone in #steamlug probably does | 11:18 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 12:14 |
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| muessigb | hello! | 12:49 |
| muessigb | i need help with kubuntu's updater | 12:49 |
| muessigb | primarily apt-get | 12:49 |
| muessigb | the updater pops up asking me to install the new linux kernel images | 12:49 |
| muessigb | but it always wants to install grub for some reason | 12:49 |
| muessigb | how can i prevent that? | 12:50 |
| muessigb | can i somehow block the grub packages? | 12:50 |
| soee | you are not using grub ? | 12:50 |
| muessigb | no | 12:50 |
| muessigb | i am using refind | 12:50 |
| soee | uhm, i do not know. try asking on #ubuntu | 12:51 |
| muessigb | ok, ill try. thanks | 12:51 |
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| grobda24 | Hi, how do I install my manufacturer provided monitor ICC profile ? I tried https://userbase.kde.org/Color_Management/en but got a lot of bugs and missing packages. | 15:09 |
| designbybeck_ | I'm on a Dell laptop, on Kubuntu 15.10. I have the wifi turned on but it doesn't show any of the hotspots | 15:45 |
| designbybeck_ | I don't see any additional networking drivers...or I'm looking in the wrong spot | 15:45 |
| BluesKaj | designbybeck_, what does the network manager show ? a list of available networks / | 15:48 |
| designbybeck_ | BluesKaj: ..just shows a check by the wifi icon, but nothing listing | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | which wifi chip ? | 15:49 |
| designbybeck_ | how can I check on Kubuntu 15.10 BluesKaj ? | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | designbybeck_, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid | 15:52 |
| designbybeck_ | BluesKaj: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning | 15:53 |
| BluesKaj | designbybeck_, pastebin the output of lspci | 15:58 |
| designbybeck_ | BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15761885 | 16:00 |
| designbybeck_ | ah BluesKaj I did a reboot and now I see the networks listed in Wifi! Thanks for the help. Not sure why it didn't show up first | 16:07 |
| BluesKaj | designbybeck_, sudo lshw -C network, just to make sure | 16:08 |
| BluesKaj | it will just list your driver/chip | 16:09 |
| BluesKaj | it's not a enable or disable command | 16:09 |
| designbybeck_ | BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15762297/ | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | designbybeck_, right , just remember this for future reference, Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 | 16:12 |
| designbybeck_ | ahh ok, that is the wifi card BluesKaj ? | 16:13 |
| BluesKaj | yes it is | 16:14 |
| designbybeck_ | thank you! | 16:14 |
| BluesKaj | np | 16:14 |
| BluesKaj | normally that chip is very linux friendly | 16:14 |
| designbybeck_ | good to know! | 16:15 |
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| Silicomancer | Hi! I have a technical problem with Kubuntu 15.10 on a Dell Laptop. Couldn't find someone who has an idea about it in various forums. Seems to be pretty difficult. How can I get help about that? | 19:33 |
| soee | about what ? | 19:35 |
| Silicomancer | Very strange reboot/restart behavior. This is a link to the issue in AskUbuntu: http://askubuntu.com/q/752170/428857 | 19:36 |
| Smurphy | Anyone knows why the hangouts support is broken in latest ppa plasma for 15.10 ? | 19:37 |
| Smurphy | Framework 5.18.0 | 19:37 |
| Smurphy | Silicomancer: You use UEFI or regular boot-manager mode ? | 19:38 |
| soee | Silicomancer: did you checked UEFI settings in BIOS ? | 19:38 |
| Smurphy | :} | 19:38 |
| soee | Silicomancer: did you tried to upgrade bios to latest one ? | 19:38 |
| Silicomancer | BIOS is one version behind but only difference is about optical drives (that model doesn't have one) | 19:39 |
| soee | i am now on Dell Inspiron 7720 and all worked fine before on 15.10 and now on 16.04 | 19:40 |
| soee | Silicomancer: did you checked UEFI settings in BIOS ? | 19:40 |
| Silicomancer | A college told me that he used Kubuntu on Dell for several years. He said that he knows that problem very well and didn't find a solution. | 19:40 |
| Smurphy | I'm on a Latitude E7440 - no problems. Not using UEFI though. Will have to change that when I'll install a brand new 16.04... | 19:40 |
| Smurphy | the current 15.10 is a migrated and cross upgraded old 12.xx release. | 19:41 |
| Silicomancer | I used defaults, so I guess UEFI. | 19:41 |
| Smurphy | How did you boot. The installer will use UEFI if your installlation media was booted using the UEFI. | 19:41 |
| Silicomancer | Hm. Honestly I am not sure. Used USB memory stick. I suppose it can be easily checked... is there a command? | 19:42 |
| Silicomancer | Do you have an idea how that problem is possible at all? How can a cold start know something from the session before? | 19:43 |
| Smurphy | check out: efibootmgr | 19:43 |
| Silicomancer | Give me a second. Booting the laptop. | 19:43 |
| Smurphy | If it is installed, it will tell you how the boot-manager is actually configured. | 19:44 |
| Silicomancer | Ok, efibootmgr is installed | 19:47 |
| Silicomancer | It runs on console | 19:47 |
| Silicomancer | What is the keyboard I should look for? | 19:47 |
| Silicomancer | What is the keyword I should look for? | 19:47 |
| soee | !uefi | 19:47 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 19:47 |
| BluesKaj | Silicomancer, grub may not be installed in the uefi boot , therefore no boot , rset your uefi/bios to legacy mode, disable secure and fast boot if it's eanbled | 19:48 |
| Silicomancer | @BluesKaj: So you think it tries to boot into different boot partitions where one works and the other doesn't? | 19:49 |
| BluesKaj | Silicomancer, if the uefi boot partiton still exists , yes | 19:49 |
| Silicomancer | Just checked. | 19:50 |
| Silicomancer | There are three partitions: root, /boot/, /boot/efi/ | 19:51 |
| BluesKaj | i personally wouldn't recommend what I did with my laptop, but it did solve my uefi m problem ..I'll get into trouble if i do :-) | 19:51 |
| Silicomancer | efibootmgr give various output lines on the console | 19:52 |
| Silicomancer | first is "BootCurrent: 0000" | 19:53 |
| Silicomancer | What means "0000"? | 19:54 |
| Smurphy | Means that's the entry tagged as 0000 which will e booted by default. | 19:54 |
| Smurphy | You can paste the content somewhere, so I can have a look ? | 19:54 |
| Silicomancer | give me a second | 19:56 |
| Silicomancer | Silicomancer@RADAGAST:~$ efibootmgr | 19:58 |
| Silicomancer | BootCurrent: 0000 | 19:58 |
| Silicomancer | Timeout: 0 seconds | 19:58 |
| Silicomancer | BootOrder: 0000,0001 | 19:58 |
| Silicomancer | Boot0000* ubuntu | 19:58 |
| Silicomancer | Boot0001* Removable Drive | 19:58 |
| Silicomancer | Boot0003* Removable Drive | 19:58 |
| Silicomancer | Boot0004* PCMCIA Device | 19:59 |
| Silicomancer | that's# all | 19:59 |
| Silicomancer | that's all | 19:59 |
| Smurphy | Yep. That's correct. 0000 boots -> Boot0000 which is ubuntu | 19:59 |
| Smurphy | The alternatives are removable drives as you can see. | 19:59 |
| Smurphy | The configuration is Ok. it is the UEFI firmware you should update. | 19:59 |
| Silicomancer | That doesn't say something about UEFI, does it? | 19:59 |
| Silicomancer | ok | 20:00 |
| Smurphy | On my systems, I tend to use refind as boot-loader. It's flexible and looks way cooler than te grub :_ | 20:00 |
| Smurphy | http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ | 20:00 |
| Silicomancer | I will go into BIOS and look out for UEFI option | 20:00 |
| Smurphy | Check it out here. | 20:00 |
| Smurphy | I don't think it will fix your reboot problem thougg. It is firmware related IMHO. | 20:01 |
| Silicomancer | Damn | 20:01 |
| Silicomancer | That would be bad | 20:01 |
| Smurphy | If you play with the EUFI options, make sure you keep a screenshot (phone camera) of the current options so that you can revet. | 20:01 |
| Smurphy | revert | 20:01 |
| Silicomancer | Let me try (I hope there is such an option) | 20:01 |
| Silicomancer | Ok | 20:02 |
| BluesKaj | https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstallor this , | 20:05 |
| Silicomancer | Ok, tried to disable UEFI... now it doesn't boot at all. "No bootable devices". So it seems the idea with the two alternative boot partitions isn't correct? | 20:07 |
| Smurphy | That is clear. you cannot change from one to the other without re=installing and configuring the Boot manager. | 20:08 |
| Smurphy | That's why I told you you need to install the latest firmware to your device. | 20:08 |
| BluesKaj | or the partition table | 20:08 |
| Silicomancer | But the theory above was that it boots from both boot partitions alternatively... this would also impossible then, wouldn't it? | 20:09 |
| Silicomancer | alternatively -> alternating | 20:09 |
| Smurphy | No. Partition table is used by old dumb installers, but have in general no effect in the boot process. | 20:09 |
| Smurphy | it's just a matter of finding the boot files (kernel, initial ramdisk etc.). | 20:09 |
| Smurphy | Silicomancer: Nope. It's either one. | 20:10 |
| Silicomancer | Hmmmm | 20:10 |
| Silicomancer | I plan to install Kubuntu 16.04 anway | 20:10 |
| Smurphy | Leave it a UEFI. | 20:10 |
| BluesKaj | Smurphy, well if he wantsd to rewrite the table to dos from gpt then is installis cooked | 20:11 |
| BluesKaj | his | 20:11 |
| Silicomancer | Should I try to install 16.04 in legacy mode? | 20:11 |
| BluesKaj | that's what i did | 20:11 |
| Silicomancer | I read UEFI is stable with Linux these days... seems there are still problems? | 20:12 |
| Smurphy | You can actually convert a GPT to a dos partition table and reconfigure it all to work. But it takes around 2 hours. | 20:13 |
| Silicomancer | Hmmm | 20:13 |
| Smurphy | did it on my mac mini without loosing data - in both directions. You need to write down the exact partition start/end positions and replicate it. | 20:13 |
| Silicomancer | Is there a drawback in installing 16.04 beta and loading future updates compared to waiting for the official release? | 20:14 |
| Smurphy | No. Why ? the debian packages will replace the beta ones. | 20:14 |
| Smurphy | As soon as these come out. | 20:15 |
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| BluesKaj | Silicomancer, 16.04 is quite mature already ..running it here as we speak, the official release is in 10 days | 20:15 |
| Silicomancer | No upgrade necessary in 10 days, only normal updates? | 20:15 |
| BluesKaj | yes, jst regular updated and upgrades and full-upgrade to make sure | 20:16 |
| Silicomancer | Ok | 20:16 |
| BluesKaj | by upgrade we mean package upgrades | 20:17 |
| Silicomancer | I assume I will try the 16.04 install on the new SSD first. Maybe behavior changes. Using legacy mode of course. | 20:17 |
| Silicomancer | Strange... | 20:18 |
| Silicomancer | There is an option in BIOS that allows to disable UEFI (and switch to legacy) | 20:18 |
| Smurphy | Don't use legacy mode. Stick with UEFI. | 20:18 |
| Smurphy | Legacy will die. | 20:18 |
| Silicomancer | But there is also an option along with UEFI to enable "Load Legacy Option ROM"... | 20:19 |
| Silicomancer | isn't that contradictionary? | 20:20 |
| BluesKaj | legacy is till alive here and has been for 3 yrs | 20:20 |
| Silicomancer | @Smurphy: Well, blaming UEFI is currently the best theory I have for those nasty boot problems. | 20:20 |
| Smurphy | Upgrade your Firmware | 20:21 |
| Silicomancer | I will do. However according to the revision log that will not help. | 20:22 |
| BluesKaj | uefi is a problem and there very few users who know how to install kubuntu on uefi boot , it's not simple | 20:22 |
| Smurphy | well, don;t have issues on my hardware with it, | 20:25 |
| BluesKaj | well then tell him how to do it , becuase I can't help hin since I've never used uefi | 20:26 |
| Silicomancer | BIOS upgrade finished... testing now | 20:30 |
| Smurphy | do that :) | 20:31 |
| Silicomancer | I hate these kind of problems. Especially in that case... the laptop is for my old mother and I don't want to burden here with nasty workarounds :-/ | 20:34 |
| Smurphy | correct. Agreed. | 20:34 |
| Smurphy | Then you should get her a Mac. | 20:35 |
| Smurphy | That's what i did with mine. | 20:35 |
| Silicomancer | Well those are expensive... and I am experienced in Windows at (since few Months) I am working into Linux. No Max experience. I couldn't give her support. | 20:36 |
| Silicomancer | at -> and | 20:36 |
| Smurphy | That's the thing with the MAC's. No support required. I was fed up having to fix her Windows box every few weeks. | 20:38 |
| Silicomancer | Shut-down + power-on still doesn't work :( | 20:42 |
| Silicomancer | Restart also still broken | 20:43 |
| Silicomancer | So the BIOS update didn't help | 20:44 |
| Silicomancer | I will try the Legacy install with 16.04 | 20:44 |
| Silicomancer | If it doesn't fix the problem, I can do a second reinstall using UEFI... a plain install I quickly done without configuring applications and stuff | 20:45 |
| Silicomancer | I -> is | 20:45 |
| Smurphy | ok. | 20:46 |
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| Silicomancer | @Smurphy: Thanks a lot for your support! | 20:51 |
| Silicomancer | If 16.04 and/or legacy will fix the problem I will edit the AskUbuntu entry | 20:51 |
| keithzg | Huh, my officemate's desktop is on 15.10 and yet apt doesn't see libdvd-pkg | 20:54 |
| BluesKaj | keithzg, it may not be installed by default , but I see it in the repos | 20:55 |
| keithzg | BluesKaj: Yeah, it's weirding me out that he can't see it. He's got multiverse enabled and everything. | 20:56 |
| keithzg | I just went ahead and wget'd the package and installed it manually but, yaknow, I shouldn't have to! | 20:56 |
| Smurphy | Silicomancer: Thx :) | 20:58 |
| BluesKaj | keithzg, it's also used to upgrade libdvdcss2 | 20:59 |
| keithzg | BluesKaj: I know, that's precisely what I'm using it for in fact! Just figured "apt install libdvd-pkg" would work, and baffled that it didn't | 21:06 |
| BluesKaj | keithzg, 15.10? | 21:07 |
| keithzg | BluesKaj: Yup. | 21:09 |
| BluesKaj | keithzg, it's default in 16.04...15.10 didn;t last long on this pc for me to find all it's missing packages | 21:11 |
| keithzg | BluesKaj: Yeah, but looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/libdvd-pkg it sure *should* be on Wily. | 21:12 |
| keithzg | In fact, I downloaded the Wily version manually! | 21:12 |
| BluesKaj | keithzg, you wget'd libdvd-pkg from multiverse? | 21:20 |
| keithzg | BluesKaj: Yup, got the URL from http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/all/libdvd-pkg/download | 21:20 |
| keithzg | So it's definitely supposed to be in Wily multiverse! | 21:21 |
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| valorie | !info libdvd-pkg | 21:27 |
| ubottu | libdvd-pkg (source: libdvd-pkg): download and install software necessary to play video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3.99-1-1 (wily), package size 9 kB, installed size 55 kB | 21:27 |
| aabrahao | Hi/Boa tarde! | 21:27 |
| aabrahao | depois da atualizacao o som, placa de rece usb e aluns hds externos nao funcionam, quando eu rodo com o live tudo funciona. | 21:28 |
| aabrahao | como reinstalar todos os drivers novamente? | 21:28 |
| aabrahao | After de kubuntu 14 upgrade the sound and usb wireless stop working. How Can I reinstall all drivers? | 21:31 |
| soee | !es | 21:31 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 21:31 |
| soee | aabrahao: upgrade to what ? | 21:32 |
| aabrahao | after a simple sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 21:32 |
| aabrahao | how possible remove and reinstall the drivers? | 21:33 |
| soee | BluesKaj: ^ do you have experiancy with sound and wirless ? | 21:34 |
| aabrahao | nope. | 21:37 |
| aabrahao | with a live kubuntu all devices works. | 21:37 |
| BluesKaj | soee, I have some experince with sound problewms , and only a little with wifi | 21:39 |
| soee | it is strange that this happend on 14.04 | 21:40 |
| BluesKaj | more problems with my typing skills than anything else | 21:40 |
| BluesKaj | what happens , soee? | 21:40 |
| soee | BluesKaj: [23:31] <aabrahao> After de kubuntu 14 upgrade the sound and usb wireless stop working. How Can I reinstall all drivers? | 21:41 |
| BluesKaj | soee, run a lspci , find your hardware in the list and and do a search for the drivers and install them ...sorry but I have go help wife make dinner now | 21:44 |
| soee | aabrahao:^ | 21:44 |
| BluesKaj | tkae care ...later | 21:44 |
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| aabrahao | how can I remove an driver? | 22:39 |
| jorgito | I HAVE THE GOOGLE 32 BITS FOR GOOGLE CHROME I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT OUT THERE BUT I DONT KNOW HOW! | 22:59 |
| keithzg | jorgito: YOUR QUESTION DOESN'T PARSE FOR ME COULD YOU REPHRASE IT AND MAYBE DON'T YELL | 23:00 |
| jorgito | sorry I had the capitals on | 23:01 |
| jorgito | as you know Google stopped supporting the Google Chrome 32 bits version | 23:02 |
| jorgito | and I have the deb package, one needs to activate it and thats it | 23:02 |
| jorgito | I use the live version of kubuntu, a fresh version every time and I activate the packages offline. I dont use windows anymore | 23:03 |
| jorgito | I think there might be people out there trying to find the package, probably one can find it in the Debian packages webpage, but this package works fine | 23:04 |
| jorgito | and I would like to put it out there for the community to download and activate. | 23:04 |
| jorgito | I know chromium does the same job but... | 23:05 |
| dax | "works fine" except for the part where it has zero security support, which is a terrible thing for a browser | 23:24 |
| genii | !info chromium | 23:25 |
| ubottu | Package chromium does not exist in wily | 23:25 |
| jorgito | sorry I use fresh session every time so no virus gets to my computer | 23:31 |
| tux|dude | Um... That's not how viruses work y know... | 23:41 |
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