[05:18] <PeterViet2809> What's the system requirements for Kubuntu? (sorry for my bad English)\
[05:26] <valorie> wow, can't wait 10 mins?
[07:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:48] <Whicone> Hi, does anyone know about plasma phone?
[09:49] <Whicone> Is it based on ubuntu touch or it's a different project?
[09:54] <soee> pariance my friend ...
[11:02] <nicholas__> evening
[11:08] <coz> Anyone playing csgo on linux frequently and can tell how much it compares in performance to windows?
[11:11] <hateball> coz: That sort of assumes people actually run Windows, does it not
[11:12] <hateball> coz: Otherwise there is #steamlug which is full of gamers, likely to get more response there than here I am thinking
[11:13] <coz> hateball yeah, I guess it does. Thanks!
[11:15] <hateball> coz: That said, I have just played a little and it was flawless for me at least. I am on an i5 and 770GTX
[11:16] <hateball> I know common problems mouse stuttering but there's fixes for that
[11:17] <coz> hateball: Alright, that sounds good. Do you know if they've fixed the scoreboard fpsdrop bug? It's currently a problem on windows atleast.
[11:18] <hateball> coz: Nope, no idea. Again, someone in #steamlug probably does
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:49] <muessigb> hello!
[12:49] <muessigb> i need help with kubuntu's updater
[12:49] <muessigb> primarily apt-get
[12:49] <muessigb> the updater pops up asking me to install the new linux kernel images
[12:49] <muessigb> but it always wants to install grub for some reason
[12:50] <muessigb> how can i prevent that?
[12:50] <muessigb> can i somehow block the grub packages?
[12:50] <soee> you are not using grub ?
[12:50] <muessigb> no
[12:50] <muessigb> i am using refind
[12:51] <soee> uhm, i do not know. try asking on #ubuntu
[12:51] <muessigb> ok, ill try. thanks
[15:09] <grobda24> Hi, how do I install my manufacturer provided monitor ICC profile ? I tried https://userbase.kde.org/Color_Management/en but got a lot of bugs and missing packages.
[15:45] <designbybeck_> I'm on a Dell laptop, on Kubuntu 15.10. I have the wifi turned on but it doesn't show any of the hotspots
[15:45] <designbybeck_> I don't see any additional networking drivers...or I'm looking in the wrong spot
[15:48] <BluesKaj> designbybeck_, what does the network manager show ?  a list of available networks /
[15:48] <designbybeck_> BluesKaj: ..just shows a check by the wifi icon, but nothing listing
[15:49] <BluesKaj> which wifi chip ?
[15:49] <designbybeck_> how can I check on Kubuntu 15.10 BluesKaj ?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> designbybeck_, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[15:53] <designbybeck_> BluesKaj: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning
[15:58] <BluesKaj> designbybeck_, pastebin the output of lspci
[16:00] <designbybeck_> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15761885
[16:07] <designbybeck_> ah BluesKaj I did a reboot and now I see the networks listed in Wifi! Thanks for the help. Not sure why it didn't show up first
[16:08] <BluesKaj> designbybeck_, sudo lshw -C network, just to make sure
[16:09] <BluesKaj> it will just list your driver/chip
[16:09] <BluesKaj> it's not a enable or disable command
[16:10] <designbybeck_> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15762297/
[16:12] <BluesKaj> designbybeck_, right , just remember this for future reference, Centrino Ultimate-N 6300
[16:13] <designbybeck_> ahh ok, that is the wifi card BluesKaj ?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> yes it is
[16:14] <designbybeck_> thank you!
[16:14] <BluesKaj> np
[16:14] <BluesKaj> normally that chip is very linux friendly
[16:15] <designbybeck_> good to know!
[19:33] <Silicomancer> Hi! I have a technical problem with Kubuntu 15.10 on a Dell Laptop. Couldn't find someone who has an idea about it in various forums. Seems to be pretty difficult. How can I get help about that?
[19:35] <soee> about what ?
[19:36] <Silicomancer> Very strange reboot/restart behavior. This is a link to the issue in AskUbuntu: http://askubuntu.com/q/752170/428857
[19:37] <Smurphy> Anyone knows why the hangouts support is broken in latest ppa plasma for 15.10 ?
[19:37] <Smurphy> Framework 5.18.0
[19:38] <Smurphy> Silicomancer: You use UEFI or regular boot-manager mode ?
[19:38] <soee> Silicomancer: did you checked UEFI settings in BIOS ?
[19:38] <Smurphy> :}
[19:38] <soee> Silicomancer: did you tried to upgrade bios to latest one ?
[19:39] <Silicomancer> BIOS is one version behind but only difference is about optical drives (that model doesn't have one)
[19:40] <soee> i am now on Dell Inspiron 7720 and all worked fine before on 15.10 and now on 16.04
[19:40] <soee> Silicomancer: did you checked UEFI settings in BIOS ?
[19:40] <Silicomancer> A college told me that he used Kubuntu on Dell for several years. He said that he knows that problem very well and didn't find a solution.
[19:40] <Smurphy> I'm on a Latitude E7440 - no problems. Not using UEFI though. Will have to change that when I'll install a brand new 16.04...
[19:41] <Smurphy> the current 15.10 is a migrated and cross upgraded old 12.xx release.
[19:41] <Silicomancer> I used defaults, so I guess UEFI.
[19:41] <Smurphy> How did you boot. The installer will use UEFI if your installlation media was booted using the UEFI.
[19:42] <Silicomancer> Hm. Honestly I am not sure. Used USB memory stick. I suppose it can be easily checked... is there a command?
[19:43] <Silicomancer> Do you have an idea how that problem is possible at all? How can a cold start know something from the session before?
[19:43] <Smurphy> check out: efibootmgr
[19:43] <Silicomancer> Give me a second. Booting the laptop.
[19:44] <Smurphy> If it is installed, it will tell you how the boot-manager is actually configured.
[19:47] <Silicomancer> Ok, efibootmgr is installed
[19:47] <Silicomancer> It runs on console
[19:47] <Silicomancer> What is the keyboard I should look for?
[19:47] <Silicomancer> What is the keyword I should look for?
[19:47] <soee> !uefi
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Silicomancer, grub may not be installed in the uefi boot , therefore no boot , rset your uefi/bios to legacy mode, disable secure and fast boot if it's eanbled
[19:49] <Silicomancer> @BluesKaj: So you think it tries to boot into different boot partitions where one works and the other doesn't?
[19:49] <BluesKaj> Silicomancer, if the uefi boot partiton still exists , yes
[19:50] <Silicomancer> Just checked.
[19:51] <Silicomancer> There are three partitions: root, /boot/, /boot/efi/
[19:51] <BluesKaj> i personally wouldn't recommend what I did with my laptop, but it did solve my uefi m problem ..I'll get into trouble if i do :-)
[19:52] <Silicomancer> efibootmgr give various output lines on the console
[19:53] <Silicomancer> first is "BootCurrent: 0000"
[19:54] <Silicomancer> What means "0000"?
[19:54] <Smurphy> Means that's the entry tagged as 0000 which will e booted by default.
[19:54] <Smurphy> You can paste the content somewhere, so I can have a look ?
[19:56] <Silicomancer> give me a second
[19:58] <Silicomancer> Silicomancer@RADAGAST:~$ efibootmgr
[19:58] <Silicomancer> BootCurrent: 0000
[19:58] <Silicomancer> Timeout: 0 seconds
[19:58] <Silicomancer> BootOrder: 0000,0001
[19:58] <Silicomancer> Boot0000* ubuntu
[19:58] <Silicomancer> Boot0001* Removable Drive
[19:58] <Silicomancer> Boot0003* Removable Drive
[19:59] <Silicomancer> Boot0004* PCMCIA Device
[19:59] <Silicomancer> that's# all
[19:59] <Silicomancer> that's all
[19:59] <Smurphy> Yep. That's correct. 0000 boots -> Boot0000 which is ubuntu
[19:59] <Smurphy> The alternatives are removable drives as you can see.
[19:59] <Smurphy> The configuration is Ok. it is the UEFI firmware you should update.
[19:59] <Silicomancer> That doesn't say something about UEFI, does it?
[20:00] <Silicomancer> ok
[20:00] <Smurphy> On my systems, I tend to use refind as boot-loader. It's flexible and looks way cooler than te grub :_
[20:00] <Smurphy> http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[20:00] <Silicomancer> I will go into BIOS and look out for UEFI option
[20:00] <Smurphy> Check it out here.
[20:01] <Smurphy> I don't think it will fix your reboot problem thougg. It is firmware related IMHO.
[20:01] <Silicomancer> Damn
[20:01] <Silicomancer> That would be bad
[20:01] <Smurphy> If you play with the EUFI options, make sure you keep a screenshot (phone camera) of the current options so that you can revet.
[20:01] <Smurphy> revert
[20:01] <Silicomancer> Let me try (I hope there is such an option)
[20:02] <Silicomancer> Ok
[20:05] <BluesKaj> https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstallor this ,
[20:07] <Silicomancer> Ok, tried to disable UEFI... now it doesn't boot at all. "No bootable devices". So it seems the idea with the two alternative boot partitions isn't correct?
[20:08] <Smurphy> That is clear. you cannot change from one to the other without re=installing and configuring the Boot manager.
[20:08] <Smurphy> That's why I told you you need to install the latest firmware to your device.
[20:08] <BluesKaj> or the partition table
[20:09] <Silicomancer> But the theory above was that it boots from both boot partitions alternatively... this would also impossible then, wouldn't it?
[20:09] <Silicomancer> alternatively -> alternating
[20:09] <Smurphy> No. Partition table is used by old dumb installers, but have in general no effect in the boot process.
[20:09] <Smurphy> it's just a matter of finding the boot files (kernel, initial ramdisk etc.).
[20:10] <Smurphy> Silicomancer: Nope. It's either one.
[20:10] <Silicomancer> Hmmmm
[20:10] <Silicomancer> I plan to install Kubuntu 16.04 anway
[20:10] <Smurphy> Leave it a UEFI.
[20:11] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, well if he wantsd to rewrite the table to dos from gpt then is installis cooked
[20:11] <BluesKaj> his
[20:11] <Silicomancer> Should I try to install 16.04 in legacy mode?
[20:11] <BluesKaj> that's what i did
[20:12] <Silicomancer> I read UEFI is stable with Linux these days... seems there are still problems?
[20:13] <Smurphy> You can actually convert a GPT to a dos partition table and reconfigure it all to work. But it takes around 2 hours.
[20:13] <Silicomancer> Hmmm
[20:13] <Smurphy> did it on my mac mini without loosing data - in both directions. You need to write down the exact partition start/end positions and replicate it.
[20:14] <Silicomancer> Is there a drawback in installing 16.04 beta and loading future updates compared to waiting for the official release?
[20:14] <Smurphy> No. Why ? the debian packages will replace the beta ones.
[20:15] <Smurphy> As soon as these come out.
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Silicomancer, 16.04 is quite mature already ..running it here as we speak, the official release is in 10 days
[20:15] <Silicomancer> No upgrade necessary in 10 days, only normal updates?
[20:16] <BluesKaj> yes, jst regular updated and upgrades and full-upgrade to make sure
[20:16] <Silicomancer> Ok
[20:17] <BluesKaj> by upgrade we mean package upgrades
[20:17] <Silicomancer> I assume I will try the 16.04 install on the new SSD first. Maybe behavior changes. Using legacy mode of course.
[20:18] <Silicomancer> Strange...
[20:18] <Silicomancer> There is an option in BIOS that allows to disable UEFI (and switch to legacy)
[20:18] <Smurphy> Don't use legacy mode. Stick with UEFI.
[20:18] <Smurphy> Legacy will die.
[20:19] <Silicomancer> But there is also an option along with UEFI to enable "Load Legacy Option ROM"...
[20:20] <Silicomancer> isn't that contradictionary?
[20:20] <BluesKaj> legacy is till alive here and has been for 3 yrs
[20:20] <Silicomancer> @Smurphy: Well, blaming UEFI is currently the best theory I have for those nasty boot problems.
[20:21] <Smurphy> Upgrade your Firmware
[20:22] <Silicomancer> I will do. However according to the revision log that will not help.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> uefi is a problem and there  very few users who know how to install kubuntu on uefi boot , it's not simple
[20:25] <Smurphy> well, don;t have issues on my hardware with it,
[20:26] <BluesKaj> well then tell him how to do it , becuase I can't help hin since I've never used uefi
[20:30] <Silicomancer> BIOS upgrade finished... testing now
[20:31] <Smurphy> do that :)
[20:34] <Silicomancer> I hate these kind of problems. Especially in that case... the laptop is for my old mother and I don't want to burden here with nasty workarounds :-/
[20:34] <Smurphy> correct. Agreed.
[20:35] <Smurphy> Then you should get her a Mac.
[20:35] <Smurphy> That's what i did with mine.
[20:36] <Silicomancer> Well those are expensive... and I am experienced in Windows at (since few Months) I am working into Linux. No Max experience. I couldn't give her support.
[20:36] <Silicomancer> at -> and
[20:38] <Smurphy> That's the thing with the MAC's. No support required. I was fed up having to fix her Windows box every few weeks.
[20:42] <Silicomancer> Shut-down + power-on still doesn't work :(
[20:43] <Silicomancer> Restart also still broken
[20:44] <Silicomancer> So the BIOS update didn't help
[20:44] <Silicomancer> I will try the Legacy install with 16.04
[20:45] <Silicomancer> If it doesn't fix the problem, I can do a second reinstall using UEFI... a plain install I quickly done without configuring applications and stuff
[20:45] <Silicomancer> I -> is
[20:46] <Smurphy> ok.
[20:51] <Silicomancer> @Smurphy: Thanks a lot for your support!
[20:51] <Silicomancer> If 16.04 and/or legacy will fix the problem I will edit the AskUbuntu entry
[20:54] <keithzg> Huh, my officemate's desktop is on 15.10 and yet apt doesn't see libdvd-pkg
[20:55] <BluesKaj> keithzg, it may not be installed by default , but I see it in the repos
[20:56] <keithzg> BluesKaj: Yeah, it's weirding me out that he can't see it. He's got multiverse enabled and everything.
[20:56] <keithzg> I just went ahead and wget'd the package and installed it manually but, yaknow, I shouldn't have to!
[20:58] <Smurphy> Silicomancer: Thx :)
[20:59] <BluesKaj> keithzg, it's also used to upgrade libdvdcss2
[21:06] <keithzg> BluesKaj: I know, that's precisely what I'm using it for in fact! Just figured "apt install libdvd-pkg" would work, and baffled that it didn't
[21:07] <BluesKaj> keithzg, 15.10?
[21:09] <keithzg> BluesKaj: Yup.
[21:11] <BluesKaj> keithzg, it's default in 16.04...15.10 didn;t last long on this pc for me to find all it's missing packages
[21:12] <keithzg> BluesKaj: Yeah, but looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/libdvd-pkg it sure *should* be on Wily.
[21:12] <keithzg> In fact, I downloaded the Wily version manually!
[21:20] <BluesKaj> keithzg, you wget'd libdvd-pkg from multiverse?
[21:20] <keithzg> BluesKaj: Yup, got the URL from http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/all/libdvd-pkg/download
[21:21] <keithzg> So it's definitely supposed to be in Wily multiverse!
[21:27] <valorie> !info libdvd-pkg
[21:27] <aabrahao> Hi/Boa tarde!
[21:28] <aabrahao> depois da atualizacao o som, placa de rece usb e aluns hds externos nao funcionam, quando eu rodo com o live tudo funciona.
[21:28] <aabrahao> como reinstalar todos os drivers novamente?
[21:31] <aabrahao> After de kubuntu 14 upgrade the sound and usb wireless stop working. How Can I reinstall all drivers?
[21:31] <soee> !es
[21:32] <soee> aabrahao: upgrade to what ?
[21:32] <aabrahao> after a simple  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:33] <aabrahao> how possible remove and reinstall the drivers?
[21:34] <soee> BluesKaj: ^ do you have experiancy with sound and wirless ?
[21:37] <aabrahao> nope.
[21:37] <aabrahao> with a live kubuntu all devices works.
[21:39] <BluesKaj> soee, I have some experince with sound problewms , and only a little with wifi
[21:40] <soee> it is strange that this happend on 14.04
[21:40] <BluesKaj> more problems with my typing skills than anything else
[21:40] <BluesKaj> what happens , soee?
[21:41] <soee> BluesKaj: [23:31] <aabrahao> After de kubuntu 14 upgrade the sound and usb wireless stop working. How Can I reinstall all drivers?
[21:44] <BluesKaj> soee, run a lspci , find your hardware in the list and and do a search for the drivers and install them ...sorry but I have go help wife make dinner now
[21:44] <soee> aabrahao:^
[21:44] <BluesKaj> tkae care ...later
[22:39] <aabrahao> how can I remove an driver?
[22:59] <jorgito> I HAVE THE GOOGLE 32 BITS FOR GOOGLE CHROME I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT OUT THERE BUT I DONT KNOW HOW!
[23:00] <keithzg> jorgito: YOUR QUESTION DOESN'T PARSE FOR ME COULD YOU REPHRASE IT AND MAYBE DON'T YELL
[23:01] <jorgito> sorry I had the capitals on
[23:02] <jorgito> as you know Google stopped supporting the Google Chrome 32 bits version
[23:02] <jorgito> and I have the deb package, one needs to activate it and thats it
[23:03] <jorgito> I use the live version of kubuntu, a fresh version every time and I activate the packages offline. I dont use windows anymore
[23:04] <jorgito> I think there might be people out there trying to find the package, probably one can find it in the Debian packages webpage, but this package works fine
[23:04] <jorgito> and I would like to put it out there for the community to download and activate.
[23:05] <jorgito> I know chromium does the same job but...
[23:24] <dax> "works fine" except for the part where it has zero security support, which is a terrible thing for a browser
[23:25] <genii> !info chromium
[23:31] <jorgito> sorry I use fresh session every time so no virus gets to my computer
[23:41] <tux|dude> Um... That's not how viruses work y know...