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seb128good morning desktopers07:46
Laneymorning!08:03
seb128oh, Laney back to say hey on his normal start-work-time ;-)08:03
seb128hoy Laney08:03
Laneybeen AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGES08:03
seb128had a good hackfest/trip back/w.e?08:03
Laneygot a big gnome-software todo list now :-o08:04
Laneyweekend was good!08:04
Laneywe got an allotment08:04
Laneygoing to start some growing08:04
Laneyhow are you?08:05
Laneythought you were off this week08:05
Laneyor away or something08:05
seb128I'm mostly good thanks08:07
Laneyoh WAIT the trip back was the WORST08:07
seb128though slightly hurt my back muscle yesterday which is annoying08:07
Laneysomehow the train company didn't have a record of the reservations08:07
seb128just by getting out of the couch ...08:08
seb128urg08:08
Laneyso everybody was angry about not having a seat and the train was P A C K E D08:08
Laneyi managed to get one sitting on a two person seat with a mum and her child08:08
Laneyhe fed me a biscuit though which was nice ^_^08:08
Laneysorry about your back :(08:08
seb128go train company!08:09
seb128otherwise yeah I'm travelling, but it's tomorrow08:09
seb128that sprint is wed-fri08:09
Laneyoh right08:09
Laneyin USA?08:10
seb128yes08:10
seb128Salt Lake City08:10
seb128long trip for 3 days :-/08:10
Laneyyeah :(08:10
Laneyjust looked up where that is08:13
Laneypretty west08:13
seb128indeed08:13
seb128it's almost California distance08:13
seb12811h15 flight08:14
Laneyit better be useful then...08:14
seb128indeed, let's see, it's about defining what the teams should work on next cycle(s)08:14
alexarnaudhello all !08:26
* Laney stabs08:53
Laney(not you alexarnaud)08:53
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pittihey seb128, hey Laney, good morning!09:07
* pitti waves to alexarnaud09:07
seb128hey pitti! wie gehts? had a good w.E?09:08
Laneyhi there pitti!09:09
pittiseb128: en effet! c'était calme, on a nettoyé l'appartement, revu des amis, et hier on a allé au jardin botanique09:10
pittiseb128: et toi ?09:10
seb128c'était calme aussi, on a fait un peu de rangement et une promenade en vélo hier, sinon on s'est reposés09:11
Laneyvélo!09:12
pittioui, c'est bon ! ☺09:12
veebersHi all o/ Would anyone know re: gtk using a glade ui if it's possible to rename the root object in the UI tree to something other than Root? (as seen when introspecting an application with autopilot)09:24
seb128veebers, hey, no idea, but maybe larsu or desrt know09:36
pitti'Root' is not in gtk+3.0 (in that context), so not sure where that  comes from09:38
veebersseb128: sweet thanks, I'll see if they react to their names being highlighted :-)09:39
larsuyeah I think that comes from autopilot itself, no?09:40
larsumorning all :)09:40
* Laney gives in and set ts=8 sw=8 sts=809:43
Laneyhey larsu09:43
larsuLaney: expandtab!!!09:43
larsualso, good morning :)09:43
Laneythat was already set09:43
larsuphew!09:43
LaneyI had all of those =4 before09:44
Laneybut gnome seems to like 809:44
larsuyeah, 8's the way09:44
Laneytoo big imho09:44
LaneyNO IT SHOULD BE ORANGE!09:44
veeberslarsu: hmm, it's been a while since I've dug into autopilot-gtk, you could be right I'll check09:48
pittiLaney: you had ts=4? shame on you :)09:49
veeberslarsu: ah, you're 100% correct. Thanks ^_^09:49
larsuveebers: you're welcome!09:50
Laneypitti: hehe09:50
LaneyI think I :set it more often than not09:50
veeberspitti: Mystery solved, I was barking up the wrong tree :-P09:50
Laney"tilting at windmills"09:50
pittiveebers: hah09:51
flexiondotorgTrevinho, Morning. Not sure if you saw this.10:18
flexiondotorgTrevinho, I've fixed MATE Menu client and delete the Compiz winrule merge proposal. Thanks for your help and ideas.10:18
flexiondotorgTrevinho, I do have one last Compiz change is possible - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/compiz/fix-1567354/+merge/29123910:19
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: hey, yes... I saw that10:19
flexiondotorgGreat.10:19
flexiondotorgTurned out change the window hints worked. I had some cached .pyc files from an old install that was preventing me from seeing the fix.10:20
flexiondotorgOne I tested on a clean VM the window hints fixed the menu :-)10:20
flexiondotorgIs willcooke going to be about today?10:21
seb128no, he's on vac today10:27
seb128then travelling to the U.S tomorrow for the week10:27
seb128but he might be online from there10:27
seb128you better email if needed10:27
Laneymvo: I found the source of apt-cache and plundered it for Size and Installed-Size :)10:39
mvoLaney: ok, excellent10:46
Laneythanks again!10:47
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seb128Laney, do you have any idea why gimp doesn't show in g-s?11:10
seb128I'm still unsure where to look for those issues11:10
seb128appstreamcli lists it and the .desktop is the gimp main package not the data/common11:11
seb128k11:12
seb128(gnome-software:9600): Gs-DEBUG: app invalid as no pixbuf gimp.desktop11:12
seb128the desktop has Icon=gimp and that's installed in the theme by gimp-data11:13
Laneydon't know right now11:14
seb128it might be one thing for Prague, share debugging tips and write some wikipage or something11:18
Laneycould do11:26
Laneytry appstreamcli dump component11:26
Laneysee if it lists an icon11:26
Laneyif not then probably a bug in the generator11:26
seb128Laney, could you have a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-control-center/remove-migration-script/+merge/289530 ? should be trivial, I almost had forgotten about it but it would be nice to land in xenial since it creates an error in the log on first login11:34
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Laneyseb128: thanks, makes sense11:34
seb128Laney, thanks11:34
Laneywhy does it make an error though?11:35
seb128because it's python2 and the gi bindings are not part of the default installation anymore11:37
seb128so the import fails11:37
Laneyah11:37
Laneycunning11:37
seb128Laney,  hum, I don't understand the appstream dump has gimp_gimp.png as icon, but that string is not in the source package and neither in the appdata no desktop entries :-/11:41
seb128neither is "gimp_gimp"11:42
Laneyis it in the icon tarball?11:42
seb128icon tarball?11:42
Laneyhttp://appstream.ubuntu.com/data/xenial/universe/11:44
seb128you mean "gimp_gimp.png"?11:45
seb128no, that icon doesn't exist11:45
Laneythe referenced filename11:45
seb128but what I don't understand is why it has that filename11:45
Laneythis package has been demoted11:45
seb128since the .desktop has Icon=gimp11:45
seb128and the appdata has no icon11:45
Laneyso?11:45
Laneythe generator makes that filename up11:45
Laneyit's referring from appstream to a file in that icon tarball11:46
seb128no such icon in the tarball no11:47
Laneyprobably that is the problem11:47
Laneythis got demoted11:47
Laneyso a bug there I would guess11:47
seb128needs a rebuild in universe?11:47
Sweet5hark13:29 local -- the time, my DSL went online again. And there was much rejoicing.11:48
davmor2Sweet5hark: you were offline I never noticed11:49
davmor2:D11:49
Laneyshouldn't do11:49
Laneylemme try a quick fix11:49
Laneyotherwise later, doing libapt integration, needs attention11:50
seb128sorry for disturbing you, that can wait11:51
seb128thanks for looking at it ;-)11:51
seb128hey Sweet5hark11:51
Sweet5harkseb128, davmor2: heh, thanks guys ;)11:52
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desrt</holiday>13:00
desrthello again everyone.  i'm back to the frozen tundra :D13:00
davmor2desrt: you know you can stop calling you house that if you just turn the heating up a little ;)13:02
seb128hey desrt, had fun there?13:03
Laneyhey desrt13:05
Laneywow13:05
Laneymy suit just got delivered back!13:05
desrthello :)13:05
desrtdavmor2: i'm not sure the knob goes high enough to make me feel like i'm still in florida13:05
larsuhi desrt :)13:09
desrthey larsu13:09
Laneyhello libapt, I am using you13:10
larsulibapt is not responding. Not a good sign13:12
* Laney stares at Germany13:12
seb128Laney, would have been easier to walk to Glasgow and back :p13:13
Laneytrue >:|13:13
* larsu stares back at Laney and wonders why13:15
Laneythere's a rule that you have to be German to work on apt13:16
Laney:)13:16
larsubut not that you have to work on apt if you're German13:16
* larsu *hopes*13:16
desrtthat would probably mean that apt was either really really good or really really bad13:17
larsuMerkel would do the releases?!13:17
desrtnah.  but she would approve feature requests.13:19
Laneyall of them13:19
desrtthe releases would be done by the federal department of tarballs13:19
larsuwhich would sound hilarious in German13:20
seb128ximion, hey, did you see that appstream 0.9.3 is blocked in xenial-proposed because the autopkgtest regressed? https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/a/appstream/20160407_210839@/log.gz13:57
pittiI mailed Robert about that ^ already as he synced it13:57
ximionseb128: yes, I know about that - the fix is trivial, will be in the next revision at Debian13:57
seb128k13:58
seb128pitti, robert_ancell is off this week I think13:58
pittiximion: ah great, thanks13:58
pittiso I guess I smell a force-badtest for that version to unblock it?13:58
pittior is it a fix in the runtime code?13:58
ximionpitti: it's just the testing needing an adjustment since the XML output of libappstream is now pretty-printed by default14:03
pittiximion: ah, so only a test bug?14:04
ximionpitti: jup - you can also take this patch: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-packagekit/appstream.git/commit/?id=7c782558e07c7043a78a91a585685c610b86eb0014:04
pittiximion: thanks for confirming and fixing!14:04
ximionI will do a 0.9.4 bugfix release later this week, which will fix all known remaining bugs (and also this test failure at Debian)14:04
cyphermoxseb128: fixing the autopkgtest failure for NM now...15:14
seb128cyphermox, great!15:14
LaneyTB poll15:54
Laneysome shady guys on there15:55
pittithe french mafia, indeed16:08
dobeyhmm, now empathy is doing the same weird thing with settings accounts to offline when the window is closed :-/16:58
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