[07:46] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:03] <Laney> morning!
[08:03] <seb128> oh, Laney back to say hey on his normal start-work-time ;-)
[08:03] <seb128> hoy Laney
[08:03] <Laney> been AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGES
[08:03] <seb128> had a good hackfest/trip back/w.e?
[08:04] <Laney> got a big gnome-software todo list now :-o
[08:04] <Laney> weekend was good!
[08:04] <Laney> we got an allotment
[08:04] <Laney> going to start some growing
[08:05] <Laney> how are you?
[08:05] <Laney> thought you were off this week
[08:05] <Laney> or away or something
[08:07] <seb128> I'm mostly good thanks
[08:07] <Laney> oh WAIT the trip back was the WORST
[08:07] <seb128> though slightly hurt my back muscle yesterday which is annoying
[08:07] <Laney> somehow the train company didn't have a record of the reservations
[08:08] <seb128> just by getting out of the couch ...
[08:08] <seb128> urg
[08:08] <Laney> so everybody was angry about not having a seat and the train was P A C K E D
[08:08] <Laney> i managed to get one sitting on a two person seat with a mum and her child
[08:08] <Laney> he fed me a biscuit though which was nice ^_^
[08:08] <Laney> sorry about your back :(
[08:09] <seb128> go train company!
[08:09] <seb128> otherwise yeah I'm travelling, but it's tomorrow
[08:09] <seb128> that sprint is wed-fri
[08:09] <Laney> oh right
[08:10] <Laney> in USA?
[08:10] <seb128> yes
[08:10] <seb128> Salt Lake City
[08:10] <seb128> long trip for 3 days :-/
[08:10] <Laney> yeah :(
[08:13] <Laney> just looked up where that is
[08:13] <Laney> pretty west
[08:13] <seb128> indeed
[08:13] <seb128> it's almost California distance
[08:14] <seb128> 11h15 flight
[08:14] <Laney> it better be useful then...
[08:14] <seb128> indeed, let's see, it's about defining what the teams should work on next cycle(s)
[08:26] <alexarnaud> hello all !
[08:53]  * Laney stabs
[08:53] <Laney> (not you alexarnaud)
[09:07] <pitti> hey seb128, hey Laney, good morning!
[09:07]  * pitti waves to alexarnaud
[09:08] <seb128> hey pitti! wie gehts? had a good w.E?
[09:09] <Laney> hi there pitti!
[09:10] <pitti> seb128: en effet! c'était calme, on a nettoyé l'appartement, revu des amis, et hier on a allé au jardin botanique
[09:10] <pitti> seb128: et toi ?
[09:11] <seb128> c'était calme aussi, on a fait un peu de rangement et une promenade en vélo hier, sinon on s'est reposés
[09:12] <Laney> vélo!
[09:12] <pitti> oui, c'est bon ! ☺
[09:24] <veebers> Hi all o/ Would anyone know re: gtk using a glade ui if it's possible to rename the root object in the UI tree to something other than Root? (as seen when introspecting an application with autopilot)
[09:36] <seb128> veebers, hey, no idea, but maybe larsu or desrt know
[09:38] <pitti> 'Root' is not in gtk+3.0 (in that context), so not sure where that  comes from
[09:39] <veebers> seb128: sweet thanks, I'll see if they react to their names being highlighted :-)
[09:40] <larsu> yeah I think that comes from autopilot itself, no?
[09:40] <larsu> morning all :)
[09:43]  * Laney gives in and set ts=8 sw=8 sts=8
[09:43] <Laney> hey larsu
[09:43] <larsu> Laney: expandtab!!!
[09:43] <larsu> also, good morning :)
[09:43] <Laney> that was already set
[09:43] <larsu> phew!
[09:44] <Laney> I had all of those =4 before
[09:44] <Laney> but gnome seems to like 8
[09:44] <larsu> yeah, 8's the way
[09:44] <Laney> too big imho
[09:44] <Laney> NO IT SHOULD BE ORANGE!
[09:48] <veebers> larsu: hmm, it's been a while since I've dug into autopilot-gtk, you could be right I'll check
[09:49] <pitti> Laney: you had ts=4? shame on you :)
[09:49] <veebers> larsu: ah, you're 100% correct. Thanks ^_^
[09:50] <larsu> veebers: you're welcome!
[09:50] <Laney> pitti: hehe
[09:50] <Laney> I think I :set it more often than not
[09:50] <veebers> pitti: Mystery solved, I was barking up the wrong tree :-P
[09:50] <Laney> "tilting at windmills"
[09:51] <pitti> veebers: hah
[10:18] <flexiondotorg> Trevinho, Morning. Not sure if you saw this.
[10:18] <flexiondotorg> Trevinho, I've fixed MATE Menu client and delete the Compiz winrule merge proposal. Thanks for your help and ideas.
[10:19] <flexiondotorg> Trevinho, I do have one last Compiz change is possible - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/compiz/fix-1567354/+merge/291239
[10:19] <Trevinho> flexiondotorg: hey, yes... I saw that
[10:19] <flexiondotorg> Great.
[10:20] <flexiondotorg> Turned out change the window hints worked. I had some cached .pyc files from an old install that was preventing me from seeing the fix.
[10:20] <flexiondotorg> One I tested on a clean VM the window hints fixed the menu :-)
[10:21] <flexiondotorg> Is willcooke going to be about today?
[10:27] <seb128> no, he's on vac today
[10:27] <seb128> then travelling to the U.S tomorrow for the week
[10:27] <seb128> but he might be online from there
[10:27] <seb128> you better email if needed
[10:39] <Laney> mvo: I found the source of apt-cache and plundered it for Size and Installed-Size :)
[10:46] <mvo> Laney: ok, excellent
[10:47] <Laney> thanks again!
[11:10] <seb128> Laney, do you have any idea why gimp doesn't show in g-s?
[11:10] <seb128> I'm still unsure where to look for those issues
[11:11] <seb128> appstreamcli lists it and the .desktop is the gimp main package not the data/common
[11:12] <seb128> k
[11:12] <seb128> (gnome-software:9600): Gs-DEBUG: app invalid as no pixbuf gimp.desktop
[11:13] <seb128> the desktop has Icon=gimp and that's installed in the theme by gimp-data
[11:14] <Laney> don't know right now
[11:18] <seb128> it might be one thing for Prague, share debugging tips and write some wikipage or something
[11:26] <Laney> could do
[11:26] <Laney> try appstreamcli dump component
[11:26] <Laney> see if it lists an icon
[11:26] <Laney> if not then probably a bug in the generator
[11:34] <seb128> Laney, could you have a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-control-center/remove-migration-script/+merge/289530 ? should be trivial, I almost had forgotten about it but it would be nice to land in xenial since it creates an error in the log on first login
[11:34] <Laney> seb128: thanks, makes sense
[11:34] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[11:35] <Laney> why does it make an error though?
[11:37] <seb128> because it's python2 and the gi bindings are not part of the default installation anymore
[11:37] <seb128> so the import fails
[11:37] <Laney> ah
[11:37] <Laney> cunning
[11:41] <seb128> Laney,  hum, I don't understand the appstream dump has gimp_gimp.png as icon, but that string is not in the source package and neither in the appdata no desktop entries :-/
[11:42] <seb128> neither is "gimp_gimp"
[11:42] <Laney> is it in the icon tarball?
[11:42] <seb128> icon tarball?
[11:44] <Laney> http://appstream.ubuntu.com/data/xenial/universe/
[11:45] <seb128> you mean "gimp_gimp.png"?
[11:45] <seb128> no, that icon doesn't exist
[11:45] <Laney> the referenced filename
[11:45] <seb128> but what I don't understand is why it has that filename
[11:45] <Laney> this package has been demoted
[11:45] <seb128> since the .desktop has Icon=gimp
[11:45] <seb128> and the appdata has no icon
[11:45] <Laney> so?
[11:45] <Laney> the generator makes that filename up
[11:46] <Laney> it's referring from appstream to a file in that icon tarball
[11:47] <seb128> no such icon in the tarball no
[11:47] <Laney> probably that is the problem
[11:47] <Laney> this got demoted
[11:47] <Laney> so a bug there I would guess
[11:47] <seb128> needs a rebuild in universe?
[11:48] <Sweet5hark> 13:29 local -- the time, my DSL went online again. And there was much rejoicing.
[11:49] <davmor2> Sweet5hark: you were offline I never noticed
[11:49] <davmor2> :D
[11:49] <Laney> shouldn't do
[11:49] <Laney> lemme try a quick fix
[11:50] <Laney> otherwise later, doing libapt integration, needs attention
[11:51] <seb128> sorry for disturbing you, that can wait
[11:51] <seb128> thanks for looking at it ;-)
[11:51] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark
[11:52] <Sweet5hark> seb128, davmor2: heh, thanks guys ;)
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[13:00] <desrt> hello again everyone.  i'm back to the frozen tundra :D
[13:02] <davmor2> desrt: you know you can stop calling you house that if you just turn the heating up a little ;)
[13:03] <seb128> hey desrt, had fun there?
[13:05] <Laney> hey desrt
[13:05] <Laney> wow
[13:05] <Laney> my suit just got delivered back!
[13:05] <desrt> hello :)
[13:05] <desrt> davmor2: i'm not sure the knob goes high enough to make me feel like i'm still in florida
[13:09] <larsu> hi desrt :)
[13:09] <desrt> hey larsu
[13:10] <Laney> hello libapt, I am using you
[13:12] <larsu> libapt is not responding. Not a good sign
[13:12]  * Laney stares at Germany
[13:13] <seb128> Laney, would have been easier to walk to Glasgow and back :p
[13:13] <Laney> true >:|
[13:15]  * larsu stares back at Laney and wonders why
[13:16] <Laney> there's a rule that you have to be German to work on apt
[13:16] <Laney> :)
[13:16] <larsu> but not that you have to work on apt if you're German
[13:16]  * larsu *hopes*
[13:17] <desrt> that would probably mean that apt was either really really good or really really bad
[13:17] <larsu> Merkel would do the releases?!
[13:19] <desrt> nah.  but she would approve feature requests.
[13:19] <Laney> all of them
[13:19] <desrt> the releases would be done by the federal department of tarballs
[13:20] <larsu> which would sound hilarious in German
[13:57] <seb128> ximion, hey, did you see that appstream 0.9.3 is blocked in xenial-proposed because the autopkgtest regressed? https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/a/appstream/20160407_210839@/log.gz
[13:57] <pitti> I mailed Robert about that ^ already as he synced it
[13:57] <ximion> seb128: yes, I know about that - the fix is trivial, will be in the next revision at Debian
[13:58] <seb128> k
[13:58] <seb128> pitti, robert_ancell is off this week I think
[13:58] <pitti> ximion: ah great, thanks
[13:58] <pitti> so I guess I smell a force-badtest for that version to unblock it?
[13:58] <pitti> or is it a fix in the runtime code?
[14:03] <ximion> pitti: it's just the testing needing an adjustment since the XML output of libappstream is now pretty-printed by default
[14:04] <pitti> ximion: ah, so only a test bug?
[14:04] <ximion> pitti: jup - you can also take this patch: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-packagekit/appstream.git/commit/?id=7c782558e07c7043a78a91a585685c610b86eb00
[14:04] <pitti> ximion: thanks for confirming and fixing!
[14:04] <ximion> I will do a 0.9.4 bugfix release later this week, which will fix all known remaining bugs (and also this test failure at Debian)
[15:14] <cyphermox> seb128: fixing the autopkgtest failure for NM now...
[15:14] <seb128> cyphermox, great!
[15:54] <Laney> TB poll
[15:55] <Laney> some shady guys on there
[16:08] <pitti> the french mafia, indeed
[16:58] <dobey> hmm, now empathy is doing the same weird thing with settings accounts to offline when the window is closed :-/