[00:49] <Acou_Bass> slightly dumb question... my app store has just quit working for me, i installed a 2048 game but then tried installing another thing and it told me to login to ubuntu one (weird, as ive installed plenty of apps before this one), and when i login it just refreshes and asks me to login again
[00:49] <Acou_Bass> have i somehow borked my login? XD
[01:02] <dobey> Acou_Bass: i think there are some network issues at the moment. launchpad.net is also down due to network issues, so likely related
[01:03] <dobey> Acou_Bass: re: adb, developer mode needs to be enabled, and the phone needs to be unlocked
[01:05] <Acou_Bass> yeah i did both of those things for adb hehe, unless flashing ubuntu on it re-locked the phone (i will check) :D
[01:05] <Acou_Bass> and OK on the network issues - ill try again tomorrow ;)
[01:05] <dobey> if you wiped the phone, yes, then all settings would have been reset
[01:05] <Acou_Bass> i figured the bootloader wouldve been left unlocked though as its seperate to the main OS isnt it?
[01:06] <dobey> the bootloader doesn't have adb. that's fastboot
[01:06] <Acou_Bass> yeah but thatsthe bit i 'unlock' isnt it?
[01:06] <dobey> no, for adb, you must unlock the screen
[01:07] <dobey> ie, type in your pin/password so that you see the home screen (or whatever app you have running)
[01:07] <Acou_Bass> ohhh, sorry i understand now ;P thought you meant actually unlock the phone in the bootloader like i had to to flash ubuntu on it
[01:07] <dobey> ah no
[01:08] <Acou_Bass> i think i already did unlock the screen last time i tried - ill double check though because thta sounds like the sort of silly thing i would do
[01:08] <dobey> using adb/mtp requiring unlocking the screen; and now with adb5, adb also requires accepting a dialog which pops up on the phone, when you try to connect
[01:08] <dobey> ota10 has adb5 i think
[01:09] <Acou_Bass> yaeh adb devices still lists nothing with the phone unlocked + developer enabled
[01:09] <Acou_Bass> the phone is charging which makes me assume the cable is connected properly, let me try MTP
[01:09] <dobey> does the phone appear in the file manager to transfer files?
[01:10] <Acou_Bass> hmm it does not
[01:10] <dobey> sounds like you have a cable which doesn't have data perhaps, or it's possibly damaged; or perhaps something wrong with the usb port
[01:10] <Acou_Bass> aha, i now have MTP
[01:11] <Acou_Bass> hmm but still no adb
[01:11] <dobey> what device is it?
[01:11] <Acou_Bass> nexus 4
[01:13] <dobey> odd; definitely haven't had any such issues with my mako
[01:14] <Acou_Bass> ive always had issues with MTP... hated the day android seemed to jump to it XD but usually adb works
[01:17] <Acou_Bass> hmmm
[01:17] <Acou_Bass> when i run simple-mtpfs i get this error
[01:17] <Acou_Bass> LIBMTP PANIC: Trying to dump the error stack of a NULL device!
[01:17] <Acou_Bass> then my phones battery indicator goes white... like my computer kicked it out
[01:17] <Acou_Bass> weird
[01:19] <Acou_Bass> yeah im gonna debug this more tomorrow as this is crazy, thanks for the help though :D i appreciate it!
[01:20] <Acou_Bass> bye for now :D
[01:20] <dobey> good luck
[01:21] <Acou_Bass> i hope its not a hardware issue... guess ill find out soon though :O
[07:25] <nhaines> Hmm, does the standard Ubuntu Touch image not have Ogg Opus support?
[07:28] <nhaines> sil2100: do you know if the standard Ubuntu Touch image has Opus support? :)
[07:28] <P_E_T_O> hi, can you please tell me why the Clock app is not translate after OTA10?
[07:29] <P_E_T_O> also Notes app ...
[07:37] <sil2100> nhaines: hey! The current images do not have the codecs installed sadly
[07:38] <nhaines> sil2100: too bad, I was trying to figure out how to best encode a new song for the 16.04 Free Culture Showcase.  Well, got the Vorbis stuff set up.
[07:38] <nhaines> The music player detects the song properly, but not the audio stream.  Good ol' Ogg container format, I guess!
[07:39] <nhaines> sil2100: thanks for the quick response.  :)
[07:44] <jibel> nhaines, it's tracked in bug 1460464
[07:44] <ubot5`> bug 1460464 in Telegram app "Add support for the OPUS audio format" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1460464
[07:45] <nhaines> jibel: oh, very interesting!  I'll go ahead and subscribe to that one.  :)
[07:46]  * sil2100 sighs on the translation issues
[07:47] <jibel> sil2100, he didn't say which language. It's translated in French.
[07:50] <jibel> sil2100, unless you're referring to the uitk
[07:50] <sil2100> jibel: yeah, to all issues actually, the UITK one worries me the most
[07:51] <jibel> this one is very weird. How can a file be missing from the export?
[07:53] <sil2100> I am worried it's not the export at fault but the language pack creation
[07:54] <sil2100> I'm testing someting right now
[09:44] <Whicone> Hi, has anyone heard about plasma phone?
[09:45] <Whicone> I'd like to know if it's a skin on Ubuntu-touch or a different project.
[09:47] <davmor2> Whicone: it uses ubuntu for hardware enablement but then is a completely different runtime on top, if you want more info maybe talk to the kubuntu guys who I think are the guys spearheading it
[09:47] <Whicone> davmor2: Thanks
[09:58] <sil2100> pitti: hey! Sorry to disturb, I'm trying to understand something in langpack-o-matic since we have some regressions in translations :)
[09:59] <sil2100> pitti: my question: I see that l-o-m takes the mapping.txt file to get the pkg_domain stuff
[10:00] <sil2100> pitti: it does it by reading line by line, splitting each line and doing pkg_domain[f[0]] = f[1] (where f is the split line) - this seems to cause some issues for the case of UITK
[10:00] <sil2100> pitti: since the mapping.txt file has two lines, like this:
[10:00] <sil2100> ubuntu-ui-toolkit ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[10:00] <sil2100> ubuntu-ui-toolkit ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery
[10:01] <sil2100> pitti: this way what happens is, the pkg_domain['ubuntu-ui-toolkit'] = 'ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery' only, so the 'ubuntu-ui-toolkit' part gets completely ignored
[10:01] <pitti> sil2100: oh, good catch -- i. e. we need to make the values a list
[10:02] <sil2100> pitti: ok, so that's an acceptable fix then?
[10:02] <sil2100> Since I wasn't sure if maybe it's like that on purpose (don't have much experience with translation domains)
[10:02] <pitti> sil2100: no, I don't think that's on purpuse, looks like a simple oversight
[10:09] <sil2100> pitti: ok, thanks, let me propose something then :)
[10:13] <pitti> sil2100: thanks!
[10:49] <EdwardMorbius> hello, is anyone having issues with updates on the phone? for the last few days they "time out" for me in 99% of cases.
[10:49] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, did you try removing and re-adding your U1 account ?
[10:50] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ no, I will try that, tried rebooting and stuff, that didnt help.
[10:50] <ogra_> (we still dont have an error message if your token is outdated)
[10:50] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ will try readding U1 account now.
[10:52] <EdwardMorbius> done, checking for updates now.
[10:52] <EdwardMorbius> and still checking...
[10:53] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ doesnt seem to help, checking is still ongoing like before, should complete already.
[10:54] <ogra_> didnt you just say it downloads and just doesnt install ?
[10:54] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ no, the check doesnt finish in 99% of cases, times out after a while with "check your internet connection etc"
[10:55] <EdwardMorbius> even though Internet is working fine
[10:55] <ogra_> you are on wlan ?
[10:55] <EdwardMorbius> yes, tried 3g too, same thing,.
[10:56] <EdwardMorbius> I am not the only one affected, a guy on Twitter I follow says same thing happens to him too.
[10:56] <EdwardMorbius> check just timed out again
[10:59] <ogra_> weird
[10:59] <ogra_> did you ever tinker with the rootfs ... like making it writable or any such thing ?
[10:59] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ no
[11:00] <EdwardMorbius> It started a few days ago, but it doesnt affect everyone it seems, one follower on Twitter said updates work fine for him, the other has the same issue as I do.
[11:01] <ogra_> i have no prob either here on 3 devices
[11:01] <EdwardMorbius> at first I though it was a temporary server issue but now it continuing for a few days in a row
[11:03] <ogra_> well, perhaps a server person can help you debug ... beuno ^^^ ?
[11:03] <EdwardMorbius> funny thing I can install an application from the Store, just tested it, but updates time out in 99% of cases.
[11:05] <EdwardMorbius> I am on E4.5 with OTA-10
[11:19] <sil2100> pitti: hey! If you could take a quick look here https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/langpack-o-matic/domains_as_lists/+merge/291493
[11:19] <sil2100> It *seemed* to work locally ;)
[11:26] <pitti> sil2100: replied
[11:26] <pitti> I need to run for a bit now, bbl
[11:26] <pitti> sil2100: but I think your next iteration shoudl be fine, please go ahead
[11:30] <sil2100> pitti: ah, ok, sure I can switch to not use defaultdict if that's more feasible ;)
[13:03] <EdwardMorbius> anyone knows how can I debug this issue with updates on the phone?
[13:18] <matv1> EdwardMorbius Just a longshot: I once faced a similar issue. It turned out that I had a duplicate U1 app registered server-side for my phone. (Something tht shouldnt really be possible).
[13:18] <matv1> Login to https://login.ubuntu.com/+applications and see if that is the case
[13:19] <EdwardMorbius> maxtv1 thanks I will check now
[13:21] <EdwardMorbius> maxtv1 I have Ubuntu One @ ubuntu phablet and web login
[13:22] <matv1> that seems correct. sorry, what you face is different then :/
[13:23] <EdwardMorbius> seems so, I have no idea why it doesnt work in 99%  of cases :(
[13:25] <EdwardMorbius> I am noticing that https://login.ubuntu.com is however awfully slow to respond, other websites work fine.
[13:25] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, dumb question ... is your disk full
[13:25] <ogra_> ?
[13:25] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ no I have about 2.7 GB free
[13:28] <dobey> EdwardMorbius: are the people you have seen report it happen to, all also in .hr?
[13:29] <EdwardMorbius> dobey no, one is in Romania (popescu sorin guy who does those nice videos).
[13:30] <EdwardMorbius> asked him last night if it is happening to him still and he said yes.
[13:30] <EdwardMorbius> a guy from finland however said it is working fine for him
[13:30] <dobey> yes works fine for me too
[13:31] <dobey> it could be a network issue or change, in your region though
[13:31] <ogra_> "transparent" proxy
[13:31] <ogra_> (on a provider level)
[13:31] <dobey> or damaged underwater fiber cable :)
[13:32] <EdwardMorbius> dobey but everything else works fine, on my phone, on my laptop, on my gfs laptop and phone, I can even install applications from Ubuntu Store, but updates time out, how is that possible :(
[13:32] <dobey> EdwardMorbius: have any of you tried to tracepath to system-image.ubuntu.com ?
[13:32] <EdwardMorbius> dobey no but I can try doing it
[13:32] <ogra_> this is about click updates
[13:33] <dobey> i thought it was about system image updates
[13:33] <ogra_> not sure tracing s-i.u.c helps
[13:33] <pitti> sil2100: thanks for fixing this!
[13:33] <ogra_> dobey, click updates time out when already checking for them as i understand it
[13:33] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ that is correct, I go to  system settings-updates and they time out in 99.9% of cases
[13:34] <ogra_> so you dont even get a list
[13:34] <EdwardMorbius> no
[13:34] <ogra_> right ?
[13:34] <EdwardMorbius> no nothing
[13:34] <sil2100> pitti: yw! Thanks for the review! btw. I'll have a look at another issue with touch langpacks a bit later that popped up with the recent potemplate stats for 15.04 - LP: #1568861
[13:34] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1568861 in langpack-o-matic "Touch ubuntu-rtm/15.04 language packs translation percentages counted wrong" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1568861
[13:34] <dobey> how does it time out then?
[13:34] <EdwardMorbius> after a while it times out with the message check your internet connection
[13:34] <EdwardMorbius> goes "checking for updates" and ends in that error message after quite a while
[13:35] <dobey> that sounds like it is probably system-image that it's having trouble getting to
[13:36] <EdwardMorbius> dobey how can I trace that from the phone?
[13:37] <dobey> do you have terminal app installed?
[13:37] <EdwardMorbius> yes
[13:37] <dobey> do you have a chroot to install debs into?
[13:38] <dobey> or, this is probably not limited to the phone either, as ist sounds like a general network problem
[13:38] <dobey> EdwardMorbius: on your PC just do "tracepath system-image.ubuntu.com"
[13:38] <EdwardMorbius> no I dont have chroot.
[13:38] <EdwardMorbius> dobey ok will do now
[13:39] <EdwardMorbius> tracepath reaches te2-1.jotunn.canonical.com and then no reply, no reply...
[13:40] <dobey> hmm
[13:43] <EdwardMorbius> so it seems my network reaches up to canonical server but nothing happens further
[13:44] <dobey> i think that's fine
[13:55] <pitti> seb128: FYI, the bug that sil2100's langpack-o-matic fixes above might very well be responsible for the "randomly missing domains" issue we had the other month
[13:55] <seb128> pitti, yeah, I though about that when I read IRC this morning
[13:55] <seb128> good to see it fixed ;-)
[13:56] <pitti> well, there's no proof that that was it, but it certainly could have been
[14:11] <ogra_> charles, aqny idea why the indicator is only showing me events from a calendar that was disabled long ago (but hides all events from my selected default calendar)
[14:12] <ogra_> (events show up correctly in the today scope, but not in the indicator)
[15:02] <qwertz> does any one else have problems booting into ubuntu touch when installed with multiboot?
[15:03] <qwertz> i have a nexus 5, and other (android-based) roms work perfectly fine.
[15:04] <ogra_> is there actually a usable image for multiboot (somwthing built from a usable channel)
[15:07]  * ogra_ thought there were only the -devel ones, which are not even intended to boot
[15:07] <qwertz> multiboot has a function to download and install ubuntu touch.
[15:08] <qwertz> i tried the -devel and the -proposed version, both of them get stuck at the ubuntu* ..... boot screen
[15:12] <dobey> qwertz: devel{-proposed} are basically "broken" on all devices, because they are untested. they are pretty much just a sanity check
[15:12] <dobey> qwertz: you need to use stable or rc-proposed from ubports.com for n5, but i don't know how to make them work in multirom
[15:13] <dobey> also, my understanding is that android 6 introduces more incompatibilites, and so unlikely to get ubuntu booting under multirom if you are using android 6, anyway
[15:13] <qwertz> bummer. i had the devel version running last year just fine.
[15:13] <qwertz> i am on cyanogenmod 12.1 (aka. android 5.1)
[15:15] <ogra_> qwertz, development focus has moved to rc-rpoposed ... the devel channels became just a junkyard to dump the code in, they havent been maintained within the last year anymore
[15:16] <ogra_> (and they havent been intended for use before either ... but anyway ... back then they got some more testing)
[15:16] <qwertz> well. thats sad. multirom only supports installation of ubuntu touch from their app, and there is no rc-proposed channel available.
[15:17] <qwertz> thanks guys for helping though^^
[15:17] <ogra_> qwertz, ask the maintainer to make usable channels available then
[15:17] <qwertz> i'll look into it!
[16:13] <tedg> mhall119: Was looking to get some docs in RTD, do you know if we have an Ubuntu Sphix theme? http://ubuntu-app-launch.readthedocs.org/
[16:13] <tedg> Sphinx
[16:14] <mhall119> I think so, but I'm not sure who might have it
[16:14] <tedg> Hmm, perhaps dpm would know?
[16:15] <mhall119> balloons might
[16:15] <mhall119> balloons: do you know if we have an Ubuntu sphinx theme, and if so where it is?
[16:15] <balloons> mmm.. Interesting questions.
[16:16] <tedg> How much documentation could a developer read if a developer could read documentation?
[16:16] <balloons> I feel like the theme Corey did for us initially was pulled from a 'ubuntu' theme
[16:16] <balloons> Anyways, not that I think it matters much, but you can look at ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot to see the resulting basic theme
[16:16] <dpm> tedg, no, I don't know, sorry
[17:33] <gb_mks> I´m looking for an contact editor with webid integration, something like this http://aksw.org/Projects/MobileSocialSemanticWeb.html
[17:33] <gb_mks> do you know about any effort in this line?
[18:04] <gb_mks> woooww not everyone at the same time ;)
[18:39] <ammar> hello
[18:40] <Guest412> Hiiii
[18:41] <Guest412> is there a way to port ubuntu to sony z2?
[18:45] <dobey> theoretically, yes
[21:46] <Acou_Bass> 10.1 security hotfix eh?
[21:47] <popey> 8.8Mb, smallest update ever!
[21:47] <Acou_Bass> :D good to know
[22:54] <Smurphy> yeah, don't have a network here. Will check it out tonight.
[22:54] <Smurphy> Are there details on what they have fixed ?
[22:55] <sil2100> Smurphy: hey! It's just a security update for a single issue, no other fixes included
[22:56] <Smurphy> sil2100: Doesn't matter. I'd like to know what happened (out of interest) ..
[22:56] <Smurphy> :}