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TheMurdzMorning!!!04:33
iqbalhi05:05
pavlushkaHi05:09
pavlushkamorning everyone!05:09
Kilosmorning all06:00
Kilosohi theblazehen TheMurdz Rynomster inetpro and others06:09
TheMurdzMorning! :D06:09
KilosTheMurdz you can join us officially at https://ubuntu-za.org06:09
Kilosjoin us on launchpad and the mailing list06:10
TheMurdzGreat thanks!06:10
Kiloslist not busy so no overload of mails06:10
TheMurdzGreat, all done :D. Great stuff.06:11
Kiloswow you fast hey06:11
TheMurdzYea, haha, just had to sign in and clicky clicky06:11
TheMurdz1Gbit fibre = no delay haha06:11
Kilosi would still be hunting where to click06:12
TheMurdzhahaha06:12
Kiloswonderful06:12
TheMurdzI'll take a look at all the goodies in launchpad in a little bit. Meh06:12
Kilosok06:12
TheMurdzbroke iptables on my server >...>06:12
TheMurdzRather, iptables broke me06:12
Kilosoh my06:12
Kiloshard work those things06:13
Rynomstermorning Kilos06:13
Kiloshi inetpro 06:18
Kilosnot nagging but we have an out of date topis bar06:18
Kilostopic06:18
TheMurdzHmm, looks like the fix I put out here for Ubuntu on HyperV getting stuck on "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility" doesn't really fix the problem.06:33
* TheMurdz goes back to the Google machine.06:34
Kilosoh my06:35
Kiloshi pavlushka 06:35
mazalMornings06:42
mazalTheMurdz, some customer feedback if you here06:42
TheMurdzI'm here06:43
mazalHappy with your service so far. Got sms Friday afternoon that sim is with couriers06:43
mazalYour couriers called me on Saturday and confirmed my adress as well as arranged deliviry day and time06:43
mazalI like it , nice and professional ;)06:44
TheMurdzOh excellent, Glad our couriers are on point. That's great! Thanks for the feedback 06:44
pavlushkathank you mazal ! lol06:44
mazalThey arranged for tomorrow. 06:44
mazalHow long after I received it and they do the RICA will it become active ?06:44
pavlushkaKilos: hi and oops!06:45
TheMurdzIt's activated immediately. RICA is only a document process thankfully, so won't affect your activation.06:45
mazalKewl06:45
Kiloshi mazal 06:46
TheMurdzJust make sure you follow the instructions included on the sim kit for the APN. I've angered the developers about not including "afrihost" as the default APN. 06:46
mazalmaaz tell Kilos Die sms ding werk nie. Dit gaan le op die router en bly nie op sim nie06:46
Maazmazal: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode06:46
TheMurdzI think they got tired of me begging and it should now be the default APN06:46
mazallol , Hi Kilos 06:46
mazalAPN ?06:46
Kilosiuse internet as apn i think06:47
MaazKilos: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell Kilos Die sms ding werk nie. Dit gaan le op die router en bly nie op sim nie" 52 seconds ago06:47
TheMurdzAccess Point Name (APN) "MTN is set to "mymtn" That's how they allocate data for other providers.06:47
mazalHang on let me write down06:47
TheMurdzAfrihost = afrihost, mtn = "mymtn" internet is used by,,, not sure haha06:47
Kilosmazal install modem-manager-gui and look for sms06:47
TheMurdzBut don't put mymtn, make sure all your APNs for the device using the afrihost sim is set to "afrihost"06:47
mazalSo at APN setting on router I must just put "Afrihost" ?06:48
mazalKilos, it's ok , I find them on router now that I know they go there06:49
Kilosok06:49
TheMurdzThat's correct, I usually do it with a lowercase "a". I'm paranoid like that.06:49
mazalOk will look for that thanx06:50
mazalThis is a MTN router so will probably be on mymtn06:51
TheMurdzmost likely 06:52
mazalOk guys I'm off. Gotta safe money. Have a good day all06:52
Kilosyou too06:52
mazalTheMurdz, will give feedback tomorrow after I got the sim06:52
mazalCheers06:53
inetprogood mornings06:53
inetproKilos: I'm not nagging but can you please put together a new Agenda06:53
Kilosoh my06:54
TheMurdzSweet, Thanks!06:54
Kiloschesedo ping06:54
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Kilosinetpro dankie oom06:56
Kilosill hear what chesedo wants to do with the agenda06:57
LangjanGoeiemore Kilos het jy lekker geslaap?06:59
Kiloshi Langjan 06:59
Kiloswat het jy gebreek06:59
* Kilos hides06:59
Langjanjy maak my skaam!07:00
Kilosek  het te veel geslaapen jy07:00
LangjanLekker dankie07:00
Kilosek terg net man07:00
Kilosek het gister jou epos gekry na jy hier klaar was07:01
Kiloshaha07:01
LangjanEk moet elke keer as ek my lappie aansit die plek waar hy moet "boot" uit 'n lys opsies kies, is dit 'n grub probleem? 07:01
Kilosprobeer sudo update-grub07:02
Langjanok dankie07:02
Kilosek hoop dit doen die job07:02
Kilosek het ook een keer so prob gehad maar kannie onthou hoe ek dit reg gemaak het nie07:03
Kiloseven open synaptic and type in grub at the top and right click reinstall then all that show installed07:04
Kilosgrub-pc grub-pc-bin etc07:05
LangjanOK it still does the same, "select boot device" - then boots anyway after a 10 second delay which is fine I suppose, sometimes one does want to select the device.07:05
Kilosyou can change the 10 secs to less if you like07:05
Kilosit is just showing you the options07:06
LangjanYes but I think its fine as it is07:06
Kilosso if the latest one goes faulty you can use recovery on an earlier one07:06
Kilosmine is at 10 secs as well07:07
LangjanNo its just boot devices, a screen that looks like bios07:07
Kilostake a screeshot of it for interests sake07:08
Kiloshow many devices can you have in a laptop07:08
Kilosdvd and drive and usb 07:09
LangjanFunny names but basically thats it07:09
Kilosthats is most likely the bios07:10
Kilosi thought you were talking about the grub start page07:10
LangjanNo it shows a bios screen07:11
Langjanafter the grub start page07:11
Kiloswell, as long as it boots ignore what you see07:12
Kiloshehe07:12
Langjanok just thought I must offer a excuse for dropping in so as to not disappoint you 07:13
Kiloshahahaha07:14
Kilosskelm toppie07:14
LangjanJa dit kom met ervaring 07:14
Kiloshaha07:14
LangjanJy sal ook nog eendag leer07:15
Langjanwanneer jy grootword07:15
Kilosek hoop so07:15
LangjanHoop jy kom nou gou reg met jou visa07:15
Kilosdankie ek ook07:16
LangjanJy gaan in die koue Kaapse weer daar aanland07:16
Kilosja dit pla bietjie maar sal net in die bed bly07:17
LangjanGoeie plan07:17
Kilosals goed daar07:18
LangjanMooi loop ou vriend 07:18
Kilosw2atse reserfaat is dit07:18
Kilosbushtech bly ook op een07:18
Kilosvaalkop dm07:19
Kilosdam07:19
LangjanLaat weet as daar vordering is. Reservaat?07:19
Kilosdaai ding ja07:19
Kilosek sal laat weet07:19
LangjanWaarvan praat jy vriend? Reservaat?07:19
Kilosnog nie my boere hoed op nie07:20
Kilosja07:20
thatgraemeguymornings07:20
LangjanJammer ek is nie met jou nie07:20
Kiloshy thatgraemeguy 07:20
Langjanhi thatgraemeguy 07:20
Kilosbly jy nie op n reservaat nie07:20
Kilosconsevation area07:21
Kilosof so iets07:21
LangjanNee in 'n aftree-kompleks, daar is 75 eenhede en jy moet bo 50 wees07:21
Kiloso ok07:21
LangjanEk stuur vir jou fotos via e-pos07:21
Kilosok07:22
LangjanGekry?07:26
Kilosek kyk07:27
Kilossjoe07:27
Kilosmooi ne07:27
Kiloshi Cryterion 07:28
CryterionMorning07:29
LangjanJa ons bly baie lekker07:29
Kiloswaar is die vrugte bome07:30
Kilosek plant nie n boom wat nie kos gee nie07:30
LangjanDaar is twee mangobome wat goed dra, een vroeg en die ander laat, dan 'n minneola en papaja wat dra en ek het nou vye en druiwe geplant07:31
Kilosmooi07:31
Langjanmy avocados wat ek laas jaar gepalnt het, het in die droogte en hitte gevrek sal maar weer probeer07:31
Kilosai!07:32
LangjanHierdie in 'n wonderlike area vir vrugte, al die subtropiese sowel as die hoëveldvrugte groei goed07:32
Kilosja daai kant van die berg is baie beter as hier07:33
Langjanen ons is baie lief vir vrugte07:33
Kiloshier vrek als in die winter07:33
Kilosnet pekan neute doen goed07:33
LangjanEk hou so baie van litchis, het met een getrou 07:33
Langjanja ek vrek ook in die koue07:33
Kilosja hulle lekker07:33
Kiloshaha07:34
LangjanJuanita was leach07:34
LangjanLeach07:34
LangjanLeachie07:34
Kilosen jy ie07:34
LangjanLitchi07:34
Kiloshaha07:34
LangjanOK ek moet ophou klets, het werk om te doen en jy ook07:35
Langjan?07:35
Kilosgeniet jou dag07:36
LangjanDankie Kilos jy ook 07:36
chesedomorning all09:02
chesedopong Kilos09:02
pavlushkamorning chesedo !09:03
Kiloshi chesedo 09:04
Kiloscan you sort the agend for the meeting sometime please09:04
chesedoKilos: will check soon...09:04
Kilosthe pro did the topic09:04
Kilosty09:04
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chesedoKilos: the linuxconza / linuxfestza can now probable be removed from the agenda, right?09:24
Kilosyessir09:24
chesedoand the release party?09:24
Kilosthe release party we decide after release because dvds get ordered09:24
Kilosit can stay on agenda09:25
chesedogreat ty sir :D09:26
Kilos:D09:26
chesedooh do you still want to keep the 'get involved with lugs' line with the removal linuxconfza09:28
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chesedoKilos: ^^09:28
chesedoanyway it is up (can still remove that if needed)09:30
Kiloshmm...10:03
Kilosi dunno bout the linux confza10:03
Kilosyou ave been trying to contact them10:04
Kilosthey are to slack to get involved10:04
anton_mayello all10:04
chesedohey only kmf responded... and tuks said they are 'few'10:05
chesedoooi anton_may10:05
anton_mayis anybody experiencing peering (packet loss)?10:06
Kiloswell10:06
Kilosmaybe we can just discuss how we can get them to sit up and take notice10:07
Kilosoh10:07
Kilosand saying they are few is a feeble excuse10:07
Kiloseverything starts from 110:07
Kiloshi anton_may 10:08
chesedonope anton_may10:08
anton_mayok, looks like there is a peering issue between Neotel & SAIX10:08
chesedoKilos: guess we'll sort it then10:10
* chesedo goes to lurk mode - has to work on an assignment for Wed10:10
Kilosok ty10:11
Kiloswe have time anyway10:11
Kilos15 days still10:11
Kiloshi skokkk 10:30
skokkkhey Kilos, long time!10:38
Kilosyip10:43
Kilosive always been here10:43
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pavlushkacan anyone tell me how I can set the TIMEZONE option in LP?10:49
inetpropavlushka: click on your name at the top right to go to your user information10:56
inetpropavlushka: then click on the yellow icon with a pen to the right of "Time Zone:" 10:57
pavlushkainetpro: if I had that I would have done that already, in my LP, the option is not showing.11:02
inetpropavlushka: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editlocation11:05
pavlushkainetpro: it worked, thanks but there was no gui way of it for my profile to my knowledge!11:08
pavlushkatell me if I am wrong.11:09
inetprowhat browser?11:09
pavlushkaits firefox.11:09
inetprowell, log a bug if you're concerned11:10
pavlushkayes, I am gonna11:10
inetpropavlushka: http://www.awesomescreenshot.com/0465s5stb211:18
inetprothat is what it should look like 11:19
inetproobviously weith the red arrow and writing added by me11:20
pavlushkabut b4 you set it how it looks like?11:20
inetpromine was always set from the day I signed up11:20
inetprosince 2006-05-2611:21
pavlushkaunderstood, :|11:22
thatgraemeguyanyone making significant use of ipsec in prodution env?12:04
thatgraemeguyrunning on a linux server that is12:04
inetproRT @jimjag Let's see now, I have Slack, HipChat, IRC, Skype, Mail and Lync all open... Yep. Much better than just IRC and Email. #Progress12:33
inetproplus Mattermost, Telegram, Whatsapp, Hangouts, ....12:35
MaNIone chat program per person you know, the future is here13:07
pavlushkaHey inetpro , I might need your help, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/156880614:11
pavlushkainetpro: I have set every other option in my LP profile if its gui or not, am I that stupid not being able to set timezone if there was no problem?14:26
inetpropavlushka: and how can I help you with that?14:30
pavlushkano you cant, I am just trying to find some consolation.14:36
pavlushkathat way14:36
pavlushkajust see what that person is saying, I have registered my gpg keys, ssh keys, signed code of conduct being that stupid?14:38
pavlushkais that makes sense?14:39
inetprotechnically a web interface is not a GUI14:50
Kilospavlushka havent you joined bangladesh on lp14:53
pavlushkainetpro: then what it is? a CLI? where you can work with your mouse?15:04
pavlushkaKilos: Yes.15:04
inetpropavlushka: it's a web interface or WUI for short if you want but not a GUI15:05
pavlushkainetpro: isn't it Graphical?15:05
pavlushkainetpro: ok you might win the case with your arguments but will that solve the issue?15:07
inetpropavlushka: was just saying because I can't answer your other questions15:07
Kilospavlushka then lp should recognise you15:07
inetproyou probably needed a simple forced refresh15:08
pavlushkainetpro: what do you mean by that?15:09
pavlushkaKilos: recognize me on what?15:09
Kiloson other lp pages15:09
inetpropavlushka: https://www.google.co.za/search?q=browser+force+page+refresh15:10
Kiloslike i joined lp on za page now it knows my timezone15:10
inetpropavlushka: The Difference Between Web Design and GUI Design https://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-difference-between-web-design-and-gui-design/15:10
pavlushkaKilos: you have joined many other local teams.15:19
Kilosyes many in africa15:19
pavlushkaKilos: they have different time zones.15:22
Kilosyes but lp knows where i first joined i think15:23
Kiloshi qwebirc20258 15:23
Kiloswelcome to u buntu-za15:23
qwebirc20258Hi. Thanks15:24
qwebirc20258How does things work here?15:25
Kiloswhat would you like to know15:26
Kilosthis is the south african ubuntu support channel15:26
Kilosif you need help just state clearly what with and someone will help you15:27
qwebirc20258I am new to Ubuntu and would like to know where I may post questions and also where I can contribute.15:27
Kilosright here15:28
Kiloswhat system are you using?15:28
Kiloswe have all linux users here not just ubuntu15:29
qwebirc20258Good. How does the meetings work on this channel? Is there a standard agenda?15:29
Kiloshttp://bit.ly/1MoSxpQ15:29
Kilosthat is our agenda so far for our meeting on the 26th here at 8.30pm15:30
Kilosare you using ubuntu qwebirc20258 ?15:32
qwebirc20258I have Ubuntu 14.04 and Suselinux15:32
Kiloscool then get a proper irc client installed then you dont have to come here from the site15:33
Kilosid suggest hexchat 15:33
Kilosxchat also works but there was talk of it not being supported anymore15:34
qwebirc20258Thanks. I will. Was just browsing as I registered on the mailing list today.15:34
Kiloscool 15:38
Kilosyou can also join us on launchpad also from the site there15:38
qwebirc20258What is the address and port to connect?15:41
Kiloschannel is #ubuntu-za and it should allocate a port automagically15:43
Kilosand you must choose freenode then edit it and add #ubuntu-za15:43
Kilosotherwise you go to the main ubuntu channel15:44
MariusoftHi Kilos15:45
Kiloshi Mariusoft 15:45
MariusoftOkay, thanks for helping, I am in15:46
Kilosthats better hey15:46
MariusoftMuch better15:46
Kilosyou are welcome15:46
Kilosthats why we are here most of the time15:46
Kilosohi superfly 15:47
MariusoftWhere can I get more info on Launchpad, like a training session? I did read around on the site, but I am lost.15:48
Kiloswhat do you need to know ill try help15:48
Kilosgive me the link you are on then ill go look15:49
MariusoftIt looks like one can create an application there, or more than one. I would like to find out if I can add a PHP application with a MySQL DB?15:50
MariusoftThen if a application is developed, where does it run from?15:50
Kilossomeone here will be able to answer you just hang tight and be patient15:50
MariusoftThanks15:51
Kilosmost are on the way home or just arrived15:51
Cryterion?? app developed! would normally run from here it's been put!15:51
Kiloswe built our site there15:51
CryterionHi everyone15:51
Kiloshi Cryterion you take over15:51
CryterionOk, Hi Mariusoft15:52
MariusoftHHi15:52
CryterionWhat type of app are you questioning about, sorry missed previous text15:52
MariusoftCan you guide me to a traing course for launchpad, hou the system works?15:52
Cryterionhmm, inetpro prob best, I'm still learning myself, but what problems are you having and might be able to help a bit from there15:53
MariusoftI would like to develope a vacation app. I started in Ionic for smartphone. But then, when I joined Ubuntu I saw Launchpad and thought it would be greate to do it here.15:54
CryterionI'll have a look quickly, see hat I can come up with, as I normally use git for code15:55
Kiloschesedo jump in here as well15:57
Kiloshere is something to look at so long Mariusoft 15:58
MariusoftI have started a project called vacation, now where do I add code?15:58
Kiloshttps://support.apple.com/kb/PH21859?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US15:58
chesedoKilos: let me just get my bathing suit :P15:58
Kiloslol15:58
MariusoftKilos, is this Apple launchpad the same as Ubuntu Launchpad?16:00
Kilosi have no idea, maybe that was a bad link to give16:00
Kilosill let the clever guys guide you16:00
CryterionTo me, it looks so far like you upload via github, and then link the code into lauchpad from there16:01
Kilosmost are here after 8.30 when family time has been served16:01
Cryterionsome of us are single and live alone16:01
Kilosyeah thats why you helping now16:02
MariusoftThanks Cryterion, I will check it out.16:02
Kilosand chesedo 16:02
Kiloshehe16:02
chesedoMariusoft: launchpad is a version control system like git... you will have to develop the code locally and can then use launchpad to bugs tracking, distribution etc.16:02
CryterionMariusoft https://help.launchpad.net/Code/QuickStart16:02
MariusoftOkay, so it is not a development site, only version control?16:03
Cryterionyou can either use github or bazaar16:03
chesedoas far as i know, yes16:03
CryterionLooks that way16:03
* Cryterion needs the rip this w key out keyboard and clean it, grrr16:04
MariusoftOkay, then I will stay on Ionic for now. 16:04
CryterionYou could prob link directly there too, saw something in the guide about linking to external sites16:05
MariusoftHow do I go about developing apps for Ubuntu? And what language is used for the development?16:05
Kiloshttps://developer.ubuntu.com/16:06
chesedoMariusoft: you used to HTML and js?16:06
MariusoftYes and Angular JS16:07
CryterionMariusoft try QT creator and code:blocks16:08
chesedoIf you want to target new devices then you'll feel at home with QML (is a combination of css and js)16:08
CryterionI do most things in c/c++16:09
chesedohttps://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/16:09
MariusoftOkay, thanks, I will try QT and QML16:09
CryterionQT's nice for desktop apps, code::blocks gives a range of code options, including plugins for different platforms (including QT) although QT itself has the form designer built in16:10
chesedoWebapps can also use Cordova (if memory correct) if you know that too16:11
* Cryterion has a working w key again, yay16:13
MariusoftYip. I am sorted for now. Thanks!16:13
Cryteriongreat16:13
CryterionAnyone know the planned upgrade proceedures from 14.04 to 16.0416:14
CryterionI.E. do I have to upgrade to 15.10 first?16:15
Kilosno16:16
Kilos14.04 will go direct to 16.0416:16
Cryterionok kwl16:17
chesedoKilos: log into mattermost16:17
Kilosoh my16:17
chesedoand all others interested in the Ubuntu for Hope logo can find it there too16:18
Kilosive lost the link chesedo 16:18
chesedomattermost.popey.com/ubuntu16:18
chesedobrr...16:19
chesedohttp://mattermost.popey.com/ubuntu16:19
Kilosgoing there now16:19
Cryterionlol @chesedo16:20
Kiloslol16:21
chesedolol??? lol16:22
Kiloswe may lol if we feel like it16:24
* Cryterion actually just smiled and giggled a bit, but the general expression sent out via electronic from is lol16:26
Kilosbad connection today16:32
chesedowell don't lol between the clown acts, rather during :P16:34
pavlushkainetpro: now look at it https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1568806, now i might call him a stupid expert, I am not logged in?16:43
Kiloshe is on family time pavlushka and dinner most likely16:45
pavlushkaok, lol, bad timing.16:46
Kilospavlushka what was that site with ubu ntu pics and banners we joined16:51
Kilosdunno why space keeps jumping in16:52
pavlushkaUbuntu Bangladesh team and launchpad bengali translator i guess.16:55
Kilosno man16:55
pavlushkai guessed so that i didn't get your Q actually.16:56
pavlushkaplease rephrase.16:56
Kilosim trying to remember16:56
Kilosthey have ubuntu goodies there i think16:57
pavlushkaubuntu marketing/ spreadubuntu16:58
Kilosspreadubuntu maybe16:59
Kilosyeah thats it ty17:00
pavlushkawith Ruben Romero yes.17:00
Kilosi go eat17:01
KilosMaaz watch them17:01
MaazOK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you17:01
mazalEvening17:02
mazaloom Kilos around ?17:03
pavlushkaKilos gone eating.17:03
mazalK thanx17:03
pavlushkahi mazal !17:03
mazalHi pavlushka 17:03
pavlushkahad your supper?17:04
pavlushkaor you can have your supper meanwhile, :p17:05
pavlushkaMaaz and me keeping an eye on the others by that time.17:06
Maazpavlushka: Excuse me?17:06
mazalOh wow ok nevermind, I've come right17:06
pavlushkamaaz you are excused17:06
Maazpavlushka: I already know stuff about you17:06
mazalFigured out how to run a command from router to get data balance17:07
pavlushkawow, 17:07
mazalUSSD command , who knew that's what it does17:07
pavlushkawhich brand, which model?17:07
mazalNo more putting sim in phone to send command17:08
mazalHuwei B31517:08
mazalNow just to remember it17:08
pavlushkaits those command you run in your phone to recgarge and registration.17:08
pavlushka*recharge17:08
mazalYeah the command that request balances17:08
pavlushkayep17:09
mazalAlways so annoying to have to run it from phone , but now I run it from the router web interface17:09
mazal( cos telkom's web site doesn't want to work )17:09
mazalSo had to find another way17:09
pavlushka\o/ yea17:09
* mazal goes to create doc for this17:10
pavlushkamazal: wb17:33
Kiloshmm...17:34
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mazalShees you pull out one little cable17:35
mazalHi oom Kilos , was looking for you17:35
Kilosi see ya17:35
mazalGuess what happened this afternoon17:36
Kilostell me17:36
mazalTelkom called , my router arrived :)17:36
Kiloshaha17:36
mazalNow I am properly up and running again17:36
Kilossee you swore at them for nothing17:36
mazalAnd tomorrow the Afrihost sim card arrives lol17:36
mazalSo I went from 6 weeks no connections to 2 options in only 3 days hehehehe17:37
Kilosthen what you going to do with 217:37
mazalWill use up the Afri and downgrade it to lowest17:37
mazalKeep it as backup17:37
Kilosah17:37
mazalTelscum is contract so can't change it17:38
Kiloswell thats wise with all you games upgrading17:38
mazalI struggled to register on site to see my data though17:38
mazalWanted help with that17:38
Kilostelkom?17:38
mazalYeah17:39
mazalKeeps saying wrong ID/Mobile number combination17:39
Kilostry this in browser17:39
Kiloshttps://kya.8ta.com/onnet/public/mobileData?sid=20798886426199604817:39
mazalThink it's not registered everywhere yet ?17:39
mazalOk what just happened ?17:40
mazalI click on that link and all my info is in it ?17:40
Kilosyes it reads the sim17:41
mazalIt looks almost like the site I was on17:41
Kilosit most likely is17:41
Kilosonly this way reads the sim17:42
mazalI was on " My telkom " , then you must link the account. And there it fails17:42
mazalBut , then I found a neat way to run a command from the router to get the info :)17:43
Kilosi have battled with that so i have this link opening when browser opns17:43
mazalThis router support USSD commands17:44
mazalSo one just runs the command *188# ( like you would have from a phone.17:44
mazalThen the reply sms with the info goes to the router's sms section17:44
mazalNever knew one could do that :P17:45
Kilosjust try modemmanager-gui17:45
Kilossee if it can see sms stuff17:45
mazalI will just use this link oom gave me , works fastest17:46
Kilosya but you cant see smses17:46
mazalI can , router has a section for it17:47
Kilosok17:47
Kilosthen you setup17:47
mazalSMS menu , inbox , and there they are17:47
mazalSo what would this be: " Campaign Welcome Bonus Messaging "17:48
mazalIt expires Sunday17:48
Kiloslol17:48
mazalProbably a few free sms's17:49
Kiloscheck17:49
Kilosmaybe data17:49
mazalNah the data is both there17:49
Kiloson that link i gave you you can buy airtime and data17:50
mazalKewl17:50
mazalIt helps knowing the right people17:52
Kiloslol17:52
mazalI go update xbox17:52
Kilosi hated taking sim from modem to fone everytime i needed airtime or data17:53
Kilosenjoy17:53
mazalYeah I despised that already just this few days I used my phone sim. in-out , in-out.17:55
mazalCan't be good for the sim itself either17:56
Kilosyeah must cause some wear and tare17:56
mazalWish there was a way I could transfer the unused data on my phone sim to a friend17:57
Kilosyeah thats a seriously missing action17:58
Kilosi spent much time on fone asking about that17:58
Kiloswith all the mobile providers17:58
Kilosbut now with telkom when i buy airtime i get it for my cell then transfer it to modem then get data17:59
Kilosbecause you get free minutes for the same value and if it goes to the modem you lose it18:00
superflymy ears are burning again18:00
Kiloswhy superfly ?18:01
superflyKilos: I heard my name mentioned somewhere18:01
Kiloshours ago18:01
Kilosin mattermost as well18:01
Kilosbut you have that info on telegram as well18:01
mazalHi superfly 18:06
mazalhey , that rhymes18:06
superflyhi mazal18:06
superfly(that doesn't)18:06
mazalhehehe18:06
Kiloslol18:06
mazalKewl , xbox updated , time for a lag test :P18:07
inetprogood evenining18:10
inetprooops, I mean morning18:10
inetproor what is the time anyway18:10
Kiloshi inetpro 18:11
inetprooh yeah, hi Kilos18:11
Kilossay hi then you are always right18:11
inetprothanks you18:11
Kiloshehe18:11
Kilosyou think i say hi because its the only greeting i know?18:12
inetproKilos: oh my, you struggling with recalling applicable $daytime as well?18:13
Kilosoh superfly you coulda given Mariusoft some advice18:13
Kiloslol18:13
inetpropavlushka: hmm...18:14
inetprothe value of submitting a bug report, well done!18:14
pavlushkainetpro: read my comments?18:15
pavlushka*previous comments18:15
pavlushkainetpro: thank you!18:17
inetpropavlushka: you have a bug open in your name and the status is Triaged 18:17
inetprowil be a good feeling when that is fixed18:17
inetprowill*18:17
pavlushkainetpro: but he was acting like he is against me or just taking me for granted.18:18
Kilosno man18:19
inetpropavlushka: don't jump to conclusions, you do not know what he was thinking18:19
Kilosdont take everything personally18:19
pavlushkaok, I will not, though I have seen him fixing other issues with the same attitude.18:20
pavlushkato the reporter.18:20
Kilosthats the way he is18:20
Kilosnothing personal about it18:20
Kilosits all just extra work for him18:20
pavlushkaKilos: its ok because you are telling me to, :p18:21
Kiloslol18:21
inetpropavlushka: he is a busy man, I'm actually very surprised that he responded so quickly, be happy18:22
pavlushka\o/18:22
Kiloshi bushtech 18:22
bushtechhi Kilos, inetpro others18:23
inetpropavlushka: have you even looked at his profile and all the things he is involved in?18:23
pavlushkayes18:23
pavlushkawhat does that proves? that he is a nice man? or doesn't take people for granted?18:24
inetprotry to be better than him and don't attack the person18:25
Kiloshe is too busy to be friendly and chatty to everyone18:25
pavlushkaI just want to stop18:25
mazalhmm , lag test ok , not great , but not bad18:25
Kilosseems bangalory peeps are easily offended18:26
pavlushkainetpro: Kilos sorry for my extra emotions18:26
Kilospavlushka always remember nothing is to be taken personally18:26
Kiloswork your way past it18:27
pavlushkaI am cooling down, may be its the heat, or I dont know.18:27
Kiloswe had a guy came here and attacked and swore at the fly 18:27
Kilosand fly responded like a gentleman18:28
Kilosalways try make friends not enemies18:28
pavlushkaI never swore back even to in person, not sure about irc.18:28
pavlushkaKilos: you might have noticed that I am improving, lol18:30
Kilosyes keep it up18:30
inetpropavlushka: see his blog here: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~cjwatson/blog/18:30
Kilosaggresion gets one nowhere18:30
inetpromake no mistake, he knows his job18:31
* mazal only swears at Telscum18:32
mazaland taxis18:32
Kiloslol18:33
inetpropavlushka: also remember, these guys are dealing with a huge amount of bugs every day of which plenty of them are invalid18:33
mazalOk all seems fine here. Must still switch on that big blue machine though18:33
inetpromazal: welcome to #ubuntu-za at this $hour18:34
mazalWhy thank you inetpro :)18:34
Kilosoh yes18:34
inetpro:-)18:34
Kiloshello stranger18:34
mazalI am so surprised to have connection that I am now sommer online everywhere I can be :)18:34
Kiloshaha18:34
mazalLemme think how to approach this big blue , hmmmm18:35
inetpromazal: now do some learning from Kilos of how you can limit bandwidth usage18:35
pavlushkainetpro: yes, agreed, and thanks for trying to make me better, :p18:35
mazalKilos, how to approach big blue ?18:35
Kiloswhat is big blue18:36
mazalPS418:36
Kiloscarefully18:36
mazal12 games to update18:36
inetproDEFINITION of 'Big Blue': A slang term sometimes used to refer to International Business Machines Corporation (IBM)18:36
Kiloseish18:36
mazalProbably between 2 and 12 gig each18:36
Kiloseeeek18:36
mazalWait up till 12am every night ?18:36
Kilosa years data for me18:37
mazalI think I must do 1 per nigh until night surfer finished , wait for next month , continue18:38
Kilosya later is cheaper mazal 18:38
Kilosnot easy to stay awake so late though18:38
mazalBy the time next month comes along the ones that's finished have updates again though hahaha18:39
Kiloslol18:39
mazalWell I have 20gig night surfer to burn this week , will see how far that gets me18:39
Kilossjoe18:39
mazal12am till 6am yes ?18:39
Kilosyes18:40
mazalOi18:40
Kilosdid telkom change18:40
Kilosthey were from 11 at one stage18:40
mazalChange ?18:40
mazalI wouldn't know18:41
mazalIs why I asked you18:41
Kiloscall then18:42
Kilos18018:42
Kilosfrom telkom sim is free18:42
mazal2.1.34 Night Surfer: refers to users who use the internet service between 00:00am and18:42
mazal07:00am;18:42
mazalFrom here:18:42
mazalhttp://www.telkom.co.za/sites/documents/aboutus/regulatory/termsandconditions/TelkomInternet_termsandconditions.pdf18:43
mazalDunno how up to date that is though18:43
Kilosok18:43
Kilosi dont get night surfer stuff anymore i dont think18:44
Kilosi wonder why18:44
inetproKilos: trust me it is from midnight only, I know18:45
mazalWow check this out: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/789621-Night-Surfer-Data18:46
Kilosno man18:46
mazalYou must actually reboot your router at midnight18:46
Kiloswhy dont i get night surfer anymore18:46
inetpromazal: no, not necessary18:46
inetproI reboot my router only about once or twice a month 18:49
bushtechlucky man I reboot about 50 times a day18:50
inetprothose times I  have checked airtime after midnight usage has always come off the midnight data18:50
Kilosmaybe i dont get night surfer stuff aymore18:52
Kilosanymore18:52
Kilosif i do im losing it all18:52
* pavlushka agrees with bushtech about being lucky.18:52
inetproKilos: all depends on what you purchase18:53
Kiloseither the R139 or R19918:53
Kilos2g or 3g18:53
Kilosim ready to sleep again18:54
mazalinetpro, you on mobile also ?18:55
Kilosyip18:55
Kilosno adsl to maplotters18:55
mazalOk so how do I stay awake till midnight ?18:55
Kiloswith difficulty18:55
mazalHaven't done that in ages18:55
Kilosdo a cron job18:56
bushtechwatch amovie18:56
mazalPS4 has no idea what cron is oom lol18:56
Kiloslol18:56
mazalbushtech, movies tend to make me sleep :P18:56
inetproKilos: ok looks like with prepaid there's no split 18:56
Kilosyay18:56
inetpromazal: I'm on the 10+10 contract18:56
bushtechget better movies18:56
* Kilos hates losing data18:56
Kilosoh ya18:57
Kilosok i crash now18:57
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:57
mazalWill try gaming , but I find these days I can't go past 9pm then eyes gives in18:57
mazalNight oom18:57
inetprogood night Kilos18:57
bushtechnight kilos18:57
inetpromazal: what do you want to download?18:58
mazalUpdates on PS418:58
mazalIt doesn't have a scheduler sadly18:58
inetproand no URL?18:58
mazalnope18:59
inetproai!18:59
inetproset the alarm18:59
mazalIs game updates , goes directly into downloads list18:59
mazalSo called next-gen , gimph , PS3 could do it18:59
inetproor just keep talking with peeps here18:59
bushtechcan you take it to incredible C, play dumb and ask them to update it for you?18:59
mazalhehehehe19:00
bushtechthey might not notice 12gb19:00
mazalI doubt they will even know how19:01
mazalNot much love for them19:01
bushtechthere is that risk19:01
bushtechsame here19:01
mazalI have yet to find one in there that actually knows what I talk about when I ask for something19:01
bushtechI find in general that applies to any store I walk into19:02
inetprokeep asking them about Ubuntu, maybe one day they will know what it is when I ask them19:02
mazalWith my pc stuff I don't use stores at all. Have 1 guy that is excellent and only use him19:02
mazalinetpro, I think I must ask them when they will have the next LTS in stock :)19:03
bushtechI see 1604lts out on 21 april19:06
bushtechsafe to upgrade?19:06
inetprowhen I ask them whether a printer or other device will work on Ubuntu they just go, huh?19:06
mazalbushtech, I'm looking forward to that19:07
mazalBeen waiting a long time to re-install this home pc19:07
bushtechyep long since given up on questions like that19:07
* inetpro is on kubuntu 16.0419:07
mazalBit worried about my media streaming though19:08
bushtechit's taken me about 2 years to het my 2 1404 servers set up nicely19:08
mazalIf memory serves that did not go well the previous time19:08
inetpromany frequent updates but stability is ok19:08
mazalLost my external drive so now media streaming from pc is only way I can go19:09
bushtechwhats the problem with media streaming?19:09
bushtechworks ok my side to kodibuntu19:09
mazalWhat app you use ?19:09
bushtechbut via lan cable19:09
mazalI use PS3 media server , but if memory serves on Ubuntu it tends to disconnect19:10
mazalOh btw , the player is a PS3 , must be compatible with that19:10
bushtechI use zbox with kodibuntu19:10
mazalzbox is the player right ?19:11
bushtechworks a treat even got my wether station showing weather forecasts in kodi19:11
bushtechzbox is mini computer19:12
mazalSo kodibuntu is the server ?19:12
bushtechkodi is the frontend for lack of better word19:13
bushtechits only job is to play the media sitting on buntu server19:13
mazalAnd what app on the buntu server do you use to server the media ?19:14
bushtechdont need an app19:14
mazalYou use just a share ?19:14
bushtechserver is just a store19:15
bushtechpoint kodi to the files on the server19:15
pavlushkaGoodnight guys!19:15
mazalNight pavlushka 19:15
bushtechnight pavlushka19:15
mazalI will need a media server app that can serve to PS3. Will try PS3 media server again and see what the issue was19:16
bushtechplex19:17
bushtech?19:17
mazalOh boy , the last update they had was for 10.0419:19
mazalOh no hang on , I read that wrong19:20
mazalIt's from 10.04 and up19:20
mazalWill look into that one defnitely.19:20
bushtechdoes the ps3 make a good media player?19:24
mazalYep , been using it for a long time. But mostly with an external hdd19:26
mazalOnly dabbled with media server a little bit19:27
mazalWith external though you need to convert the files into a format it understand first though19:28
mazalWhen using PS3 media server one don't need to. It encodes as it serves as it's a dedicated app for PS3 and knows what it can open19:29
mazalThe biggest drawback the external HDD route has is that you are limited to 4gig file size. Which mean that huge HD quality is out19:30
mazalMedia server tends to be better for that also. With the files on PC you are not limited to file size19:31
inetprogood night19:47
mazalNight inetpro 19:47
mazalI'm also off , will do the midnight thing tomorrow19:48
mazalNight everyone19:48

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