[04:33] Morning!!! [05:05] hi [05:09] Hi [05:09] morning everyone! [06:00] morning all [06:09] ohi theblazehen TheMurdz Rynomster inetpro and others [06:09] Morning! :D [06:09] TheMurdz you can join us officially at https://ubuntu-za.org [06:10] join us on launchpad and the mailing list [06:10] Great thanks! [06:10] list not busy so no overload of mails [06:11] Great, all done :D. Great stuff. [06:11] wow you fast hey [06:11] Yea, haha, just had to sign in and clicky clicky [06:11] 1Gbit fibre = no delay haha [06:12] i would still be hunting where to click [06:12] hahaha [06:12] wonderful [06:12] I'll take a look at all the goodies in launchpad in a little bit. Meh [06:12] ok [06:12] broke iptables on my server >...> [06:12] Rather, iptables broke me [06:12] oh my [06:13] hard work those things [06:13] morning Kilos [06:18] hi inetpro [06:18] not nagging but we have an out of date topis bar [06:18] topic [06:33] Hmm, looks like the fix I put out here for Ubuntu on HyperV getting stuck on "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility" doesn't really fix the problem. [06:34] * TheMurdz goes back to the Google machine. [06:35] oh my [06:35] hi pavlushka [06:42] Mornings [06:42] TheMurdz, some customer feedback if you here [06:43] I'm here [06:43] Happy with your service so far. Got sms Friday afternoon that sim is with couriers [06:43] Your couriers called me on Saturday and confirmed my adress as well as arranged deliviry day and time [06:44] I like it , nice and professional ;) [06:44] Oh excellent, Glad our couriers are on point. That's great! Thanks for the feedback [06:44] thank you mazal ! lol [06:44] They arranged for tomorrow. [06:44] How long after I received it and they do the RICA will it become active ? [06:45] Kilos: hi and oops! [06:45] It's activated immediately. RICA is only a document process thankfully, so won't affect your activation. [06:45] Kewl [06:46] hi mazal [06:46] Just make sure you follow the instructions included on the sim kit for the APN. I've angered the developers about not including "afrihost" as the default APN. [06:46] maaz tell Kilos Die sms ding werk nie. Dit gaan le op die router en bly nie op sim nie [06:46] mazal: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [06:46] I think they got tired of me begging and it should now be the default APN [06:46] lol , Hi Kilos [06:46] APN ? [06:47] iuse internet as apn i think [06:47] Kilos: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell Kilos Die sms ding werk nie. Dit gaan le op die router en bly nie op sim nie" 52 seconds ago [06:47] Access Point Name (APN) "MTN is set to "mymtn" That's how they allocate data for other providers. [06:47] Hang on let me write down [06:47] Afrihost = afrihost, mtn = "mymtn" internet is used by,,, not sure haha [06:47] mazal install modem-manager-gui and look for sms [06:47] But don't put mymtn, make sure all your APNs for the device using the afrihost sim is set to "afrihost" [06:48] So at APN setting on router I must just put "Afrihost" ? [06:49] Kilos, it's ok , I find them on router now that I know they go there [06:49] ok [06:49] That's correct, I usually do it with a lowercase "a". I'm paranoid like that. [06:50] Ok will look for that thanx [06:51] This is a MTN router so will probably be on mymtn [06:52] most likely [06:52] Ok guys I'm off. Gotta safe money. Have a good day all [06:52] you too [06:52] TheMurdz, will give feedback tomorrow after I got the sim [06:53] Cheers [06:53] good mornings [06:53] Kilos: I'm not nagging but can you please put together a new Agenda [06:54] oh my [06:54] Sweet, Thanks! [06:54] chesedo ping === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa https://ubuntu-za.org | pastebin: http://bin.snyman.info | picpaste: http://pasteboard.co | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next Meeting: Tue, 26 April 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1MoSxpQ [06:56] inetpro dankie oom [06:57] ill hear what chesedo wants to do with the agenda [06:59] Goeiemore Kilos het jy lekker geslaap? [06:59] hi Langjan [06:59] wat het jy gebreek [06:59] * Kilos hides [07:00] jy maak my skaam! [07:00] ek het te veel geslaapen jy [07:00] Lekker dankie [07:00] ek terg net man [07:01] ek het gister jou epos gekry na jy hier klaar was [07:01] haha [07:01] Ek moet elke keer as ek my lappie aansit die plek waar hy moet "boot" uit 'n lys opsies kies, is dit 'n grub probleem? [07:02] probeer sudo update-grub [07:02] ok dankie [07:02] ek hoop dit doen die job [07:03] ek het ook een keer so prob gehad maar kannie onthou hoe ek dit reg gemaak het nie [07:04] even open synaptic and type in grub at the top and right click reinstall then all that show installed [07:05] grub-pc grub-pc-bin etc [07:05] OK it still does the same, "select boot device" - then boots anyway after a 10 second delay which is fine I suppose, sometimes one does want to select the device. [07:05] you can change the 10 secs to less if you like [07:06] it is just showing you the options [07:06] Yes but I think its fine as it is [07:06] so if the latest one goes faulty you can use recovery on an earlier one [07:07] mine is at 10 secs as well [07:07] No its just boot devices, a screen that looks like bios [07:08] take a screeshot of it for interests sake [07:08] how many devices can you have in a laptop [07:09] dvd and drive and usb [07:09] Funny names but basically thats it [07:10] thats is most likely the bios [07:10] i thought you were talking about the grub start page [07:11] No it shows a bios screen [07:11] after the grub start page [07:12] well, as long as it boots ignore what you see [07:12] hehe [07:13] ok just thought I must offer a excuse for dropping in so as to not disappoint you [07:14] hahahaha [07:14] skelm toppie [07:14] Ja dit kom met ervaring [07:14] haha [07:15] Jy sal ook nog eendag leer [07:15] wanneer jy grootword [07:15] ek hoop so [07:15] Hoop jy kom nou gou reg met jou visa [07:16] dankie ek ook [07:16] Jy gaan in die koue Kaapse weer daar aanland [07:17] ja dit pla bietjie maar sal net in die bed bly [07:17] Goeie plan [07:18] als goed daar [07:18] Mooi loop ou vriend [07:18] w2atse reserfaat is dit [07:18] bushtech bly ook op een [07:19] vaalkop dm [07:19] dam [07:19] Laat weet as daar vordering is. Reservaat? [07:19] daai ding ja [07:19] ek sal laat weet [07:19] Waarvan praat jy vriend? Reservaat? [07:20] nog nie my boere hoed op nie [07:20] ja [07:20] mornings [07:20] Jammer ek is nie met jou nie [07:20] hy thatgraemeguy [07:20] hi thatgraemeguy [07:20] bly jy nie op n reservaat nie [07:21] consevation area [07:21] of so iets [07:21] Nee in 'n aftree-kompleks, daar is 75 eenhede en jy moet bo 50 wees [07:21] o ok [07:21] Ek stuur vir jou fotos via e-pos [07:22] ok [07:26] Gekry? [07:27] ek kyk [07:27] sjoe [07:27] mooi ne [07:28] hi Cryterion [07:29] Morning [07:29] Ja ons bly baie lekker [07:30] waar is die vrugte bome [07:30] ek plant nie n boom wat nie kos gee nie [07:31] Daar is twee mangobome wat goed dra, een vroeg en die ander laat, dan 'n minneola en papaja wat dra en ek het nou vye en druiwe geplant [07:31] mooi [07:31] my avocados wat ek laas jaar gepalnt het, het in die droogte en hitte gevrek sal maar weer probeer [07:32] ai! [07:32] Hierdie in 'n wonderlike area vir vrugte, al die subtropiese sowel as die hoëveldvrugte groei goed [07:33] ja daai kant van die berg is baie beter as hier [07:33] en ons is baie lief vir vrugte [07:33] hier vrek als in die winter [07:33] net pekan neute doen goed [07:33] Ek hou so baie van litchis, het met een getrou [07:33] ja ek vrek ook in die koue [07:33] ja hulle lekker [07:34] haha [07:34] Juanita was leach [07:34] Leach [07:34] Leachie [07:34] en jy ie [07:34] Litchi [07:34] haha [07:35] OK ek moet ophou klets, het werk om te doen en jy ook [07:35] ? [07:36] geniet jou dag [07:36] Dankie Kilos jy ook [09:02] morning all [09:02] pong Kilos [09:03] morning chesedo ! [09:04] hi chesedo [09:04] can you sort the agend for the meeting sometime please [09:04] Kilos: will check soon... [09:04] the pro did the topic [09:04] ty === pavlushka is now known as pavlushka- [09:24] Kilos: the linuxconza / linuxfestza can now probable be removed from the agenda, right? [09:24] yessir [09:24] and the release party? [09:24] the release party we decide after release because dvds get ordered [09:25] it can stay on agenda [09:26] great ty sir :D [09:26] :D [09:28] oh do you still want to keep the 'get involved with lugs' line with the removal linuxconfza === pavlushka- is now known as pavlushka [09:28] Kilos: ^^ [09:30] anyway it is up (can still remove that if needed) [10:03] hmm... [10:03] i dunno bout the linux confza [10:04] you ave been trying to contact them [10:04] they are to slack to get involved [10:04] ello all [10:05] hey only kmf responded... and tuks said they are 'few' [10:05] ooi anton_may [10:06] is anybody experiencing peering (packet loss)? [10:06] well [10:07] maybe we can just discuss how we can get them to sit up and take notice [10:07] oh [10:07] and saying they are few is a feeble excuse [10:07] everything starts from 1 [10:08] hi anton_may [10:08] nope anton_may [10:08] ok, looks like there is a peering issue between Neotel & SAIX [10:10] Kilos: guess we'll sort it then [10:10] * chesedo goes to lurk mode - has to work on an assignment for Wed [10:11] ok ty [10:11] we have time anyway [10:11] 15 days still [10:30] hi skokkk [10:38] hey Kilos, long time! [10:43] yip [10:43] ive always been here === skokkkk is now known as skokkk [10:49] can anyone tell me how I can set the TIMEZONE option in LP? [10:56] pavlushka: click on your name at the top right to go to your user information [10:57] pavlushka: then click on the yellow icon with a pen to the right of "Time Zone:" [11:02] inetpro: if I had that I would have done that already, in my LP, the option is not showing. [11:05] pavlushka: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editlocation [11:08] inetpro: it worked, thanks but there was no gui way of it for my profile to my knowledge! [11:09] tell me if I am wrong. [11:09] what browser? [11:09] its firefox. [11:10] well, log a bug if you're concerned [11:10] yes, I am gonna [11:18] pavlushka: http://www.awesomescreenshot.com/0465s5stb2 [11:19] that is what it should look like [11:20] obviously weith the red arrow and writing added by me [11:20] but b4 you set it how it looks like? [11:20] mine was always set from the day I signed up [11:21] since 2006-05-26 [11:22] understood, :| [12:04] anyone making significant use of ipsec in prodution env? [12:04] running on a linux server that is [12:33] RT @jimjag Let's see now, I have Slack, HipChat, IRC, Skype, Mail and Lync all open... Yep. Much better than just IRC and Email. #Progress [12:35] plus Mattermost, Telegram, Whatsapp, Hangouts, .... [13:07] one chat program per person you know, the future is here [14:11] Hey inetpro , I might need your help, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1568806 [14:26] inetpro: I have set every other option in my LP profile if its gui or not, am I that stupid not being able to set timezone if there was no problem? [14:30] pavlushka: and how can I help you with that? [14:36] no you cant, I am just trying to find some consolation. [14:36] that way [14:38] just see what that person is saying, I have registered my gpg keys, ssh keys, signed code of conduct being that stupid? [14:39] is that makes sense? [14:50] technically a web interface is not a GUI [14:53] pavlushka havent you joined bangladesh on lp [15:04] inetpro: then what it is? a CLI? where you can work with your mouse? [15:04] Kilos: Yes. [15:05] pavlushka: it's a web interface or WUI for short if you want but not a GUI [15:05] inetpro: isn't it Graphical? [15:07] inetpro: ok you might win the case with your arguments but will that solve the issue? [15:07] pavlushka: was just saying because I can't answer your other questions [15:07] pavlushka then lp should recognise you [15:08] you probably needed a simple forced refresh [15:09] inetpro: what do you mean by that? [15:09] Kilos: recognize me on what? [15:09] on other lp pages [15:10] pavlushka: https://www.google.co.za/search?q=browser+force+page+refresh [15:10] like i joined lp on za page now it knows my timezone [15:10] pavlushka: The Difference Between Web Design and GUI Design https://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-difference-between-web-design-and-gui-design/ [15:19] Kilos: you have joined many other local teams. [15:19] yes many in africa [15:22] Kilos: they have different time zones. [15:23] yes but lp knows where i first joined i think [15:23] hi qwebirc20258 [15:23] welcome to u buntu-za [15:24] Hi. Thanks [15:25] How does things work here? [15:26] what would you like to know [15:26] this is the south african ubuntu support channel [15:27] if you need help just state clearly what with and someone will help you [15:27] I am new to Ubuntu and would like to know where I may post questions and also where I can contribute. [15:28] right here [15:28] what system are you using? [15:29] we have all linux users here not just ubuntu [15:29] Good. How does the meetings work on this channel? Is there a standard agenda? [15:29] http://bit.ly/1MoSxpQ [15:30] that is our agenda so far for our meeting on the 26th here at 8.30pm [15:32] are you using ubuntu qwebirc20258 ? [15:32] I have Ubuntu 14.04 and Suselinux [15:33] cool then get a proper irc client installed then you dont have to come here from the site [15:33] id suggest hexchat [15:34] xchat also works but there was talk of it not being supported anymore [15:34] Thanks. I will. Was just browsing as I registered on the mailing list today. [15:38] cool [15:38] you can also join us on launchpad also from the site there [15:41] What is the address and port to connect? [15:43] channel is #ubuntu-za and it should allocate a port automagically [15:43] and you must choose freenode then edit it and add #ubuntu-za [15:44] otherwise you go to the main ubuntu channel [15:45] Hi Kilos [15:45] hi Mariusoft [15:46] Okay, thanks for helping, I am in [15:46] thats better hey [15:46] Much better [15:46] you are welcome [15:46] thats why we are here most of the time [15:47] ohi superfly [15:48] Where can I get more info on Launchpad, like a training session? I did read around on the site, but I am lost. [15:48] what do you need to know ill try help [15:49] give me the link you are on then ill go look [15:50] It looks like one can create an application there, or more than one. I would like to find out if I can add a PHP application with a MySQL DB? [15:50] Then if a application is developed, where does it run from? [15:50] someone here will be able to answer you just hang tight and be patient [15:51] Thanks [15:51] most are on the way home or just arrived [15:51] ?? app developed! would normally run from here it's been put! [15:51] we built our site there [15:51] Hi everyone [15:51] hi Cryterion you take over [15:52] Ok, Hi Mariusoft [15:52] HHi [15:52] What type of app are you questioning about, sorry missed previous text [15:52] Can you guide me to a traing course for launchpad, hou the system works? [15:53] hmm, inetpro prob best, I'm still learning myself, but what problems are you having and might be able to help a bit from there [15:54] I would like to develope a vacation app. I started in Ionic for smartphone. But then, when I joined Ubuntu I saw Launchpad and thought it would be greate to do it here. [15:55] I'll have a look quickly, see hat I can come up with, as I normally use git for code [15:57] chesedo jump in here as well [15:58] here is something to look at so long Mariusoft [15:58] I have started a project called vacation, now where do I add code? [15:58] https://support.apple.com/kb/PH21859?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US [15:58] Kilos: let me just get my bathing suit :P [15:58] lol [16:00] Kilos, is this Apple launchpad the same as Ubuntu Launchpad? [16:00] i have no idea, maybe that was a bad link to give [16:00] ill let the clever guys guide you [16:01] To me, it looks so far like you upload via github, and then link the code into lauchpad from there [16:01] most are here after 8.30 when family time has been served [16:01] some of us are single and live alone [16:02] yeah thats why you helping now [16:02] Thanks Cryterion, I will check it out. [16:02] and chesedo [16:02] hehe [16:02] Mariusoft: launchpad is a version control system like git... you will have to develop the code locally and can then use launchpad to bugs tracking, distribution etc. [16:02] Mariusoft https://help.launchpad.net/Code/QuickStart [16:03] Okay, so it is not a development site, only version control? [16:03] you can either use github or bazaar [16:03] as far as i know, yes [16:03] Looks that way [16:04] * Cryterion needs the rip this w key out keyboard and clean it, grrr [16:04] Okay, then I will stay on Ionic for now. [16:05] You could prob link directly there too, saw something in the guide about linking to external sites [16:05] How do I go about developing apps for Ubuntu? And what language is used for the development? [16:06] https://developer.ubuntu.com/ [16:06] Mariusoft: you used to HTML and js? [16:07] Yes and Angular JS [16:08] Mariusoft try QT creator and code:blocks [16:08] If you want to target new devices then you'll feel at home with QML (is a combination of css and js) [16:09] I do most things in c/c++ [16:09] https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/ [16:09] Okay, thanks, I will try QT and QML [16:10] QT's nice for desktop apps, code::blocks gives a range of code options, including plugins for different platforms (including QT) although QT itself has the form designer built in [16:11] Webapps can also use Cordova (if memory correct) if you know that too [16:13] * Cryterion has a working w key again, yay [16:13] Yip. I am sorted for now. Thanks! [16:13] great [16:14] Anyone know the planned upgrade proceedures from 14.04 to 16.04 [16:15] I.E. do I have to upgrade to 15.10 first? [16:16] no [16:16] 14.04 will go direct to 16.04 [16:17] ok kwl [16:17] Kilos: log into mattermost [16:17] oh my [16:18] and all others interested in the Ubuntu for Hope logo can find it there too [16:18] ive lost the link chesedo [16:18] mattermost.popey.com/ubuntu [16:19] brr... [16:19] http://mattermost.popey.com/ubuntu [16:19] going there now [16:20] lol @chesedo [16:21] lol [16:22] lol??? lol [16:24] we may lol if we feel like it [16:26] * Cryterion actually just smiled and giggled a bit, but the general expression sent out via electronic from is lol [16:32] bad connection today [16:34] well don't lol between the clown acts, rather during :P [16:43] inetpro: now look at it https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1568806, now i might call him a stupid expert, I am not logged in? [16:45] he is on family time pavlushka and dinner most likely [16:46] ok, lol, bad timing. [16:51] pavlushka what was that site with ubu ntu pics and banners we joined [16:52] dunno why space keeps jumping in [16:55] Ubuntu Bangladesh team and launchpad bengali translator i guess. [16:55] no man [16:56] i guessed so that i didn't get your Q actually. [16:56] please rephrase. [16:56] im trying to remember [16:57] they have ubuntu goodies there i think [16:58] ubuntu marketing/ spreadubuntu [16:59] spreadubuntu maybe [17:00] yeah thats it ty [17:00] with Ruben Romero yes. [17:01] i go eat [17:01] Maaz watch them [17:01] OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you [17:02] Evening [17:03] oom Kilos around ? [17:03] Kilos gone eating. [17:03] K thanx [17:03]