[00:00] <jedininjarob> open sound optsion
[00:00] <briaperry> does anyone know how to use the otr plugin
[00:00] <jedininjarob> look for hdmi display port
[00:00] <briaperry> ?
[00:01] <jedininjarob> woodypc if that dont work anbother way is to do a pachake load for another set of features that include hdmi in them
[00:01] <WoodyPC> pachake?
[00:05] <WoodyPC> i have to reboot, my hdmi audio in bios is not turned on. brb
[00:09] <eelstrebor> i've been trying to find a way to use gtk headers in my C programs but the way gtk and gdk were installed into /usr/include makes including the headers problematic because some of the header files i'm using have #includes that can't find the header
[00:09] <eelstrebor> ubuntu 14.04.04
[00:10]  * eelstrebor knows that you get what you "pay" for but he still would like to go on a "rant-fest"
[00:14] <Eliter-Ubuntu> http://superuser.com/questions/1063875/how-to-change-screen-size-in-ubuntu-in-hyper-v
[00:15] <Eliter-Ubuntu> Answer my question please: http://superuser.com/questions/1063875/how-to-change-screen-size-in-ubuntu-in-hyper-v
[00:25] <Sander^home> Have anyone tried running ubuntu within windows 10?
[00:25] <Sander^home> With real bash without cygwin.
[00:26] <Sander^home> I was wondering if they are using the Linux kernel, or not.
[00:26] <Sander^home> And how the implementation works.
[00:27] <emeries13> well nathan, i believe you jesus crist
[00:27] <Eliter-Ubuntu> Sander^home, if you read my question, I have
[00:27] <Eliter-Ubuntu> http://superuser.com/questions/1063875/how-to-change-screen-size-in-ubuntu-in-hyper-v
[00:27] <emeries13> nathan sanders, may god be with your sole
[00:28] <Eliter-Ubuntu> emeries13, soul*
[00:28] <k1l_> !ubuwin | Sander^home
[00:31] <newpower> h
[00:35] <mjh75> Is there a channel for questions about building packages (the actual .deb files)
[00:36] <k1l_> mjh75: #ubuntu-packaging
[00:36] <mjh75> K1l_: Thanks
[00:42] <Techspectre> Are Ubuntu's servers down?
[00:42] <krekl> Techspectre: yes
[00:42] <Techspectre> krekl, damn lol
[00:42] <Techspectre> Thanks
[00:44] <k1l_> which servers?
[00:45] <krekl> k1l_: launchpad in particular
[00:47] <k1l_> krekl: yes, that is timing out here too. but repos and website work
[00:54] <pilne> which would be the proper room to solicit opinions on xfce vs. mate?
[00:54] <root_> which
[00:55] <krekl> pilne: #linux
[00:55] <k1l_> pilne: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:55] <k1l_> !rootirc | root_
[00:59] <pilne> tvym
[00:59] <Guest59333> wodetiana
[00:59] <jak2000> when i copy a line with dd command how to paste?
[01:01] <Guest59333> are there friends from china
[01:01] <krekl> !cn
[01:02] <Guest59333> whats the fuck
[01:04] <pattonh84> hi
[01:04] <pattonh84> bye
[01:07] <gousheng> ..
[01:07] <gousheng> ...
[01:08] <gousheng> 傻瓜
[01:08] <k1l_> gousheng: please stop joining with several different clients in here. use #ubuntu-cn for chinese ubuntu support.
[01:08] <gousheng> 。。。。
[01:10] <jackyjjc-atl> hi! should I report keyserver.ubuntu.com related issue here? or it is for ubuntu OS only?
[01:11] <jackyjjc-atl> basically the issue is that the server is down :p
[01:11] <k1l_> jackyjjc-atl: works here
[01:11] <gousheng> hello
[01:11] <gousheng> everyone
[01:11] <jackyjjc-atl> hmmm i swear it was down 10 minutes ago i even have screenshots but you are right it is back online now
[01:11] <k1l_> jackyjjc-atl: seems like some servers from ubuntu had a hickup. but now they work for me
[01:12] <somsip> jackyjjc-atl: From Twitter 40 mins ago "Launchpad is currently offline due to a network failure."
[01:12] <jackyjjc-atl> thanks @k1l_ @somsip
[01:12] <jackyjjc-atl> our build pipeline was down because of it :p
[01:14] <holucon> Do any of you guys know if ionotifywait works on fuse mounts?
[01:15] <stevildead> hello
[01:17] <stevildead> i installed ubuntu 14 alongside windows 10. i want to upgrade to ubuntu 15. will it upgrade only my partition? or try to install it over the whole system?
[01:20] <stevildead> ?
[01:21] <Hydr0p0nX> 14 what to 15what ?
[01:22] <stevildead> 14.04 to 15.10
[01:22] <Hydr0p0nX> and do you mean will it overwrite the windows partition or ?
[01:22] <stevildead> yes
[01:23] <k1l_> stevildead: is there a need to upgrade now? you could use the LTS upgrade to 16.04 which will be officially opened on july (or use the inoffical lts upgrade from end of april)
[01:23] <k1l_> stevildead: and no, it will not override your windows install
[01:24] <stevildead> no not really, i just wanted to since there was a newer version
[01:24] <anticore> hi. how do i disable screensaver and screen blanking in ubuntu 15.10?
[01:25] <Fetch> The openjdk-r-ppa ppa uses a GPG key DA1A4A13543B466853BAF164EB9B1D8886F44E2A that I am not seeing on the ubuntu keyserver this evening. Has anyone else noticed a new problem being unable to use that PPA? Has their repo key maybe changed?
[01:26] <k1l_> stevildead: you will need to do 3 upgrades then.
[01:27] <somsip> FWIW: "launchpadstatus> [2a] Launchpad is back online"
[01:28] <stevildead> k1l_: thats what i thought. when i opened the software updater it said i can update to 15.10. i was assuming it would go through the previous version up to the newest
[01:28] <krekl> k1l_: why?
[01:29] <k1l_> stevildead: i have not seen a working direct upgrade so far. i know the manual !eolupgrade works, but that is going to 14.10, then 15.04 and then 15.10
[01:30] <stevildead> k1l_: ok
[01:31] <Fetch> nm (regarding asking about that repo key), it's on the keyserver my searching just sucked. So hopefully something transient :)
[01:32] <stevildead> k1l_: im also having trouble updating to a newer version of wine if you can help. my current is 1.6.2, but i am trying to play black and white 2 which freezes when i click new game. i believe it is because i have an outdated version of wine
[01:33] <k1l_> stevildead: see the wine database what you need to do for that game
[01:34] <stevildead> k1l_: it said the last successful runs were on version 1.7.5
[01:34] <Rochvellon> stevildead: with PlayOnLinux you can manage the wine installation very easely
[01:35] <stevildead> k1l_: i tried to install the game through playonlinux, it installed. also installed the patches. but then said the disc could not be found
[01:36] <stevildead> k1l_: i thought it was weird since i installed it off the disc
[01:39] <stevildead> k1l_: i have it directly installed right now, and tried to run it through steam and also had no luck
[01:40] <k1l_> stevildead: dont know, sorry.
[01:40] <k1l_> !wine | stevildead
[01:41] <stevildead> k1l_: thanks though. would you know how i can just update my current version of wine?
[01:41] <k1l_> look for a PPA, or .deb file or compile yourself
[01:43] <Ohban> exit
[01:46] <Rochvellon> stevildead: in PlayOnLinux you can manage the several wine versions easely. Go under Tools -> Manage Wine version (or something  like that), download the wanted wine version, go configuration, select the prefix you want to edit and select the downloaded wine version
[01:50] <j5n3wt0n> Just installed ubuntu last night, partitioned my hardrive 60/40 to run dual boot with windows 7, but now i cannot get to windows.  please tell me the windows os did not get erased?
[01:52] <travis_> Hey I get these random kernel panics (not in just ubuntu but its what im using atm) and I was wondering if someone could help me find logs where i'd see what the issue is it happens at random times sometimes i can keep my pc on like all day sometimes pc crashes after being on for like 2 minutes
[01:53] <travis_> I just have no idea what the issue is. Anything happening on the screen freezes and my laptops fan will turn up really loud ... the pc wont even turn off just stays in that sate.
[01:53] <travis_> state*
[01:53] <Bashing-om> j5n3wt0n: One can 'look' with terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' . to see that Windows partitions are still there .
[01:55] <travis_> ^ or sudo fdisk -l
[01:55] <travis_> lol
[01:59] <Rochvellon> travis_: logs are under /var/log and syslog should tell you what happend last
[02:01] <travis_> so if I open that right after my pc crashes, will the last entries be what caused the issue right?
[02:05] <Rochvellon> it should. maybe kernel.log too
[02:07] <travis_> thanks. do you think it'd likely be a driver issue? I have fairly modern hardware... laptop with quadcore intel cpu and integrated graphics (pretty sure its intel celeron n2920) should I be downloading some addition proprietary driver?
[02:08] <travis_> I heard intel graphics driver came with ubuntu so im confused
[02:10] <Rochvellon> that's right, graphics driver for intel GPU cames with the kernel
[02:14] <seeit> anyone have any resources for setting up a remote desktop on azure with ubuntu 14.04 server
[02:17] <travis_> ok so I just returned from a kernel panic (i assume thats what it is) and i couldnt tell anything from the log
[02:20] <travis_> on another note can someone help me with this : running software updater "Not all updates can be installed Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible" - 16.04
[02:20] <Guest92923> just reboot the system
[02:21] <travis_> i did like a couple minutes ago lol
[02:22] <clg1> Hi, my sound stopped working yesterday on ubuntu 15 using the builtin intel audio on the motherboard. at first just the speaker didn't work, but now the earphones don't work either. Funny thing is the welcome beep on the login screen still works fine. just doesn't work once I login
[02:22] <travis_> "Welcome beep" do you mean your mobo speaker
[02:23] <clg1> I reinstalled alsa and forced a reload. But that didn't fix anything
[02:23] <travis_> reinstall pulse?
[02:23] <clg1> reinstalled pulse as well. no luck
[02:23] <clg1> I'm pretty sure the welcome beep plays through my speakers. It's very loud
[02:24] <travis_> I never had a beep from starting ubuntu lol but that could be a beep code from your mobo
[02:24] <travis_> is it just a single beep?
[02:24] <vfw> clg1: alsamixer
[02:24] <vfw> clg1: See that everything is turned up and not muted
[02:24] <clg1> It's the sound on the login screen after grub when the gui finally loads. Like the characteristic windows sound
[02:25] <clg1> It's a two tone beep on ubuntu
[02:25] <vfw> clg1: m  for mute
[02:25] <travis_> ^ I've had issues with alsamixer where I thought it was broken but it just ended up being on mute even when vol was all the way up
[02:25] <vfw> clg1: ... or unmute
[02:26] <clg1> nothing is muted in alsamixer
[02:26] <vfw> clg1: You will see MM at the bottom of each volume indicator that is muted
[02:26] <vfw> clg1: sudo apt-get install sox
[02:27] <travis_> idk I dont get that welcome tone when my volume is muted so he could be right
[02:27] <vfw> clg1: play /usr/share/souns/alsa/*
[02:28] <vfw> clg1: Let us know if you hear anything, or if you see any errors.
[02:28] <vfw> clg1: Is it a laptop or desktop?
[02:29] <clg1> there were 2 things muted in alsamixer. rear mic and line. unmuting them gives me weird static but none of the sound that should come out of the speakers or headphones
[02:29] <vfw> clg1: play /usr/share/souns/alsa/*  #What does this do?
[02:30] <clg1> desktop
[02:31] <clg1> trying the sox command. one second
[02:31] <clg1> result of the sox play command: play FAIL formats: can't open input file `/usr/share/souns/alsa/*': No such file or directory
[02:31] <vfw> clg1: In alsamixer, did you see PCM and Master turned up?
[02:31] <clg1> master and PCM are turned up and unmuted
[02:32] <vfw> clg1: Sorry I misspelled sounds
[02:32] <travis_> how do you get rid of that damn Amazon app thing
[02:32] <vfw> play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[02:32] <krekl> travis_: right-click, remove from launcher
[02:32] <clg1> ok with the correct spelling it appears to play a bunch of files. But I don't hear anything
[02:33] <vfw> clg1: In alsamixer, did you see PCM and Master turned up?
[02:33] <clg1> yeah in alsa PCM and Master are turnned up
[02:33] <vfw> clg1: Do you have pulseaudio installed?
[02:33] <clg1> yeah apt-get tells me pulse audio is the latest version on 15.10
[02:34] <vfw> clg1: If so, run pavucontrol
[02:34] <travis_> I dont mean just from the launcher I want it off of my system lol
[02:34] <travis_> apt-get purge / apt-get remove doesnt do it
[02:34] <vfw> clg1: So it is a desktop.  Ok.  Do this:
[02:35] <clg1> Ok I installed and ran pavucontrol
[02:35] <vfw> play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/* #And plug your speakers into different ports until you hear sounds.
[02:36] <vfw> clg1: Ok turn stuff up in pavucontrol and see that slpeakers are not muted.
[02:37] <clg1> Tried all the speaker ports while playing sound. No luck
[02:37] <clg1> turned everything up in pavucontrol
[02:39] <k1l_> travis_: either use the system settings: privacy settings
[02:39] <k1l_> travis_: or remove that searching ense
[02:39] <k1l_> *lense
[02:42] <clg1> I also lost my volume icon in the system taskbar near the clock while trying to troubleshoot this myself
[02:42] <vfw> clg1: Have you tried rebooting?
[02:43] <k1l_> travis_: like press super+a then click on "filter result" then on "dash plugins". then choose the plugins you dont like , click on them and choose disable
[02:43] <clg1> auto-mute mode is on in alsa mixer. What is that?
[02:44] <clg1> I've rebooted after installing alsa but not since talking to you
[02:44] <clg1> I don't think I've changed anythin in alsa or pavucontrols that would fix it
[02:44] <clg1> I can reboot though if you think it'll help?
[02:45] <vfw> clg1: Are you sure your speakers are in working order and turnd on, plugged into power source and turned up?
[02:46] <clg1> Yeah. Speakers are working. And I tried a second set. Also I get the ubuntu welcome double tone sound through the speakers when I get to the login screen
[02:46] <clg1> When I unmute the microphone on alsa I get static through the speakers. but none of the sounds I expect. I'm running music that should come from the speaker
[02:48] <vfw> whois Guest4184_
[02:49] <vfw>  \\\\]]_
[02:49] <vfw> clg1: Sounds to me like you have speakers plugged into wrong port.
[02:50] <clg1> that doesn't explain why my headphones don't work anymore
[02:50] <clg1> or how I get the ubuntu welcome sound
[02:50] <clg1> and I've tried all the ports
[02:50] <vfw> clg1: unmute all channels.  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*  and try all ports
[02:51] <clg1> I've unmuted everything and tried all the ports while playing the sounds in /alsa/*
[02:55] <clg1> I'll try rebooting. Brb
[02:59] <clg1> I've just rebooted. The speakers are definitely working the login drum sound is deafening. But I can't get any kind of system sound. No music and no videos.
[03:01] <travis_> How do you change DE's in 16.04 I dont see the option in the login screen anymore. I'm trying to switch from unity to lxde
[03:02] <jrsqrd> hello
[03:03] <vfw> jrsqrd: Ok, got you.
[03:03] <vfw> jrsqrd: Try updates again.  Do this:
[03:03] <Jordan_U> travis_: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[03:04] <jason29> hi
[03:04] <jason29> test
[03:04] <vfw> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:04] <vfw> jrsqrd: To do that, go to tty5, Ctrl-Alt-F5, to come back here, Ctrl-ALt-F6
[03:05] <vfw> jrsqrd: Okay?
[03:05] <vfw> jrsqrd: Please answer...
[03:05] <jrsqrd> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:06] <jrsqrd> ok will go to term
[03:17] <clg1> Alrigh so I purged alsa and pulse and reinstalled. Got my taskbar button back and my headphone jack works again
[03:17] <clg1> My speakers work when plugged into the headphone jack. But not when plugged in to the color coded suround sound in the back of the mobo.
[03:18] <clg1> So when I unplugged my speakers from the mobo it muted all Surround, Center, LFE, and side in alsamixer
[03:19] <clg1> Unmuting them doesn't make the speakers work though. Master headphone and PCM are still unumuted
[03:20] <clg1> I also purged the linux sound headers and reinstalled them with the alsa utilities in apt-get
[03:21] <vfw> Ok, I'm back jim
[03:23] <vfw> clg1: Unmoute them.  Unmute everything.
[03:24] <seeit> any idea why a nodejs app would no longer run after install xubuntu-desktop and xrdp on a server
[03:32] <clg1> I've unumuted everything. It still isn't working
[03:34] <clg1> The headphone jack still works though. It's the damnest thing
[03:37] <clg1> It seems like the headphones are muting the speakers when they're plugged in. Maybe it's not correctly unmuting them when they're unplugged?
[03:40] <br-net> uj
[03:41] <br-net> brazilians ?
[03:42] <Mr_Cyclops> General question: Which distro version (or Desktop environment) has full Google Drive support
[03:42] <Mr_Cyclops> ?
[03:44] <Mr_Cyclops> Anybody awake? :-)
[03:44] <macgarthur> I just joined actually
[03:44] <macgarthur> so yes?
[03:45] <Mr_Cyclops> sweet
[03:45] <Mr_Cyclops> Which distro version (or Desktop environment) has full Google Drive support?
[03:45] <Phanes> is an audio server even worth it?  was kind of hoping to expand my sound system to the whole house centralized to an audio server that everything talks to
[03:46] <Mr_Cyclops> So that I have My logged in google drive icon shortcut in File manager on the left hand side ... just like they have on Mac OSX
[03:46] <Ben64> !patience | Mr_Cyclops
[03:47] <macgarthur> I'm still learning myself, got into using linux for my Minecraft server and eventually started using it for everything.
[03:47] <Mr_Cyclops> Ben64, sure man, I was just ... kidding? :P
[03:48] <Mr_Cyclops> ubottu, Of course ... sir :)
[03:48] <Everest> How do i encrypt HDD which has dual boot of Ubuntu and Windows?
[03:48] <hanzomon4> jh/leave
[03:50] <Mr_Cyclops> Everest, if you have ubuntu and windows on separate partitions, I think you could use LUKS encryption
[03:53] <Mr_Cyclops> gotta dash, see ya guys later, adios!
[03:54] <Phanes> ok, nobody knows.  next question.  what is the purpose of the lts kernel?  also, is there an official low-latency kernel?
[03:55] <Ben64> what do you mean lts kernel
[03:57] <Phanes> eh, disregard lts, that was during the arch pilot (oops)
[03:57] <Phanes> i am curious though if there's a low latency kernel that's official
[03:58] <noha> hla
[03:58] <noha> hola
[03:58] <seeit> any idea why a nodejs app would have EACCESS issues after install xubuntu-desktop?
[04:37] <jon_> Any tips on getting an in-tree module compiled against a custom kernel? My most recent attempt isn't found by modprobe and is rejected by insmod with "Unknown symbol in module".
[04:37] <calier> Linux 3.13.0-83-lowlatency on Trusty panicked on me and told me to do "mcelog --ascii" after rebooting.  I did this, and the command printed nothing to the screen and did not return a shell prompt.  I am confused.
[05:01] <duan> ?
[05:05] <DonaldTrump> Do I look like I use Ubuntu?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> DonaldTrump: can we help you?
[05:07] <DonaldTrump> lotuspsychje: Yes, one of Bernie Sander's folks installed Ubuntu on my laptop and now I can't find the photos of my wives.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !joke | DonaldTrump
[05:09] <DonaldTrump> I'm here all week.
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> DonaldTrump: please no nonsense in this channel
[05:10] <Jordan_U> DonaldTrump: Please stop now. This is your last warning.
[05:10] <DonaldTrump> Trump doesn't settle, Trump wins.
[05:16] <haha-> hello
[05:17] <c|oneman> what do you guys think about using LVM snapshots to backup a vps
[05:19]  * haha- sleepy...
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> c|oneman: perhaps the ##networking guys can point you the right layout for you?
[05:22] <taloon> hello
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> taloon: welcome, how can we help you?
[05:22] <taloon> well I haven't used IRC in many many years and I just installed ubuntu on this old laptop
[05:22] <taloon> not necessarily looking for help just playing around but also i have no idea what im doing haha
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !manual | taloon start here, and welcome back to the ubuntu exerience
[05:26] <taloon> I will check that out
[05:26] <taloon> Is there something you can recommend that is maybe slightly more advanced
[05:26] <taloon> this ubuntu has this nice gui so doing simple computer stuff is pretty easy for me but ive had to use the comand line interface a bit and thats where ive got more learning to do
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> taloon: the ubuntu wiki/manuals are novice to expert, also bash
[05:28] <hateball> !manual
[05:28] <taloon> yeah ive got some serious learning to do haha
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> taloon: if you encouter issues, this is the place to ask
[05:29] <taloon> i installed tor that was harder than just downloading something from whatis ultimately the ubuntu app store
[05:29] <taloon> sweet
[05:29] <taloon> uh vps
[05:30] <taloon> oh virtual private server
[05:33] <taloon> so i think i am just using whatever sort of irc client is built in to this?  i accessed it by typing irc in the terminal
[05:33] <taloon> i had just downloaded an irc client from the ubuntu app store and wasnt sure what i was actually running, but i just uninstalled that irc client and this is stil happening
[05:34] <Phanes> how can you not know what application you installed
[05:35] <Phanes> taloon, you should not make a single undocumented change to your system
[05:35] <taloon> most things i have done so far have taken  place in the gui i figure i cant do much damage in that
[05:36] <taloon> downloading something from the ubuntu software center for example
[05:36] <Phanes> ...
[05:36] <taloon> yeah i dont know anything about anything so pay me no mind
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> taloon: please only use this channel for real issues then
[05:37] <taloon> copy that yeah i have no specific questions i just dont know what im doing perhaps ill be back later until then im readin that manual
[05:51] <Techspectre> Installed Ubuntu 15.10 on a laptop and now the battery won't charge or register a percentage?
[06:43] <Wulf> Hi
[06:44] <Wulf> What can I do to get a package that was just uploaded to debian/sid into the upcoming 16.04 release?
[06:44] <Wulf> msktutil
[06:45] <Jordan_U> Wulf: Probably nothing. Freeze happened a long time ago (and #ubuntu+1 for discussion of 16.04).
[06:46] <Seveas> Wulf: you're a few months late for that. 16.04 will be released in 10 days, only bugfixes will be accepted now.
[06:49] <Wulf> ok, I'll open a bug report and see what gappens
[06:58] <Jordan_U> Wulf: You can always create your own PPA. It's fairly easy to do for things which are already packaged.
[07:04] <zzarr> hello! my computer changes what audio device that the sound is sent to when the HDMI display goes in to sleep mode (or may I say do not change back when it's not)
[07:06] <garshol> zzarr: that seems normal.
[07:06] <garshol> zzarr: just to clarify, When your HDMI Display goes to sleep - the computer changes audio output?
[07:07] <Wulf> Jordan_U: I'd rather everyone got a fixed package
[07:07] <zzarr> yes, that's normal, but when the HDMI display wakes again the output remains on the internal
[07:08] <garshol> Also normal zzarr
[07:08] <zzarr> my other computer don't behave that way
[07:08] <gabor> hi guys
[07:08] <zzarr> it changes it back to the HDMI
[07:08] <zzarr> hi
[07:09] <garshol> hi gabor
[07:09] <ux2> Hey
[07:09] <gabor> i like to get some help with adobe flash
[07:09] <ux2> How do you introduce someone new to Ubuntu
[07:09] <garshol> zzarr: what's configured different between them?
[07:09] <garshol> ux2: let them use a machine for a couple days, or throw them a spare ssd they can install on. Easily revertible.
[07:09] <zzarr> nothing, but's it's an nVidia card in one and a Intel HD 3000 in the other
[07:10] <garshol> zzarr: should behave the same.
[07:10] <zzarr> the one with nVidia card is stationary and when the HDMI is the only display
[07:10] <zzarr> garshol, that's what I want
[07:10] <garshol> have you manually chosen HDMI output in sound options?
[07:11] <garshol> I get that zzarr. :)
[07:11] <ux2> Hm
[07:11] <gabor> i like to get some help with adobe flash
[07:11] <ux2> gabor: what's wrong
[07:11] <zzarr> garshol, yes, I have to manually choose output every time
[07:11] <garshol> seems weird.
[07:11] <gabor> well i cant or dont know howw to install
[07:12] <garshol> different displays?
[07:12] <zzarr> gabor, what is the problem
[07:12] <ux2> gabor: it should be on adobe website
[07:12] <ux2> The Linux version
[07:12] <garshol> it's a .deb file gabor
[07:12] <zzarr> garshol, it's the very same HDMI display
[07:12] <ux2> garshol: double click it
[07:12] <ux2> It will install
[07:12] <garshol> zzarr: give me a minute.
[07:13] <gabor> right so just download it and how to install it i am new to  it
[07:13] <zzarr> garshol, only a half ;)
[07:14] <gabor> can i install it from terminal
[07:14] <garshol> zzarr: http://askubuntu.com/a/502133
[07:14] <garshol> that should set you up for what you want zzarr.
[07:14] <zzarr> gabor, just open Ubuntu software center and search for flash and press install
[07:14] <zzarr> garshol, thanks
[07:15] <garshol> Hey! No problems zzarr! :)
[07:15] <zzarr> garshol, :)
[07:15] <ux2> Yep
[07:15] <gabor> oki try thatandalso like to know if my computer and linux system running on the best performance setting how to check that
[07:18] <whimbrel> ddddd
[07:18] <ux2> Hello
[07:18] <whimbrel> hello
[07:19] <gabor> like to know if my computer and linux system running on the best performance setting how to check that
[07:19] <ux2> gabor: it should be ok  but check graphic  settings
[07:21] <ux2> Good evening
[07:22] <gabor> right thanks i just installed adobe flash plugin but my brovser stillsend me the same error i have to go to adobe.com and download
[07:23] <ux2> gabor: Ya  that's a old version probably
[07:24] <gabor> so will i just update in terminal
[07:24] <ux2> gabor: yes
[07:24] <killbee> Pui pui
[07:24] <killbee> Nub H3r3
[07:25] <killbee> Give me Knowledge pupil ! Want to learn Linux from core
[07:25] <killbee> Pui pui
[07:26] <killbee> No one says Hi to nub
[07:26] <gabor> ok it still has the same thing comming up
[07:26] <killbee> Pui pui
[07:26] <DevAntoine> hi
[07:26] <killbee> Hi
[07:26] <gabor> hi
[07:26] <killbee> Any body help
[07:27] <killbee> My Linux ran out of space on VMware
[07:27] <killbee> I have 20 GB extra space but It's not getting added to linux how to do it
[07:28] <Ben64> boot a livecd and use gparted to increase the partition size maybe
[07:28] <ux2> Jm
[07:28] <Ben64> not sure if that works in vmware
[07:28] <ux2> Hey
[07:28] <ux2> Ben64:
[07:28] <killbee> naah
[07:30] <killbee> Ok how to take screenshots in linux?
[07:30] <Ben64> the printscreen key on your keyboard usually
[07:30] <de-facto> press print key
[07:30] <killbee> Gparted showing /dev/sda Unallocated 30.00 GiB space
[07:30] <kyle> hello
[07:31] <ux2> kyle: hey
[07:31] <killbee> and how to print it then? like I have used paint in windows for the same
[07:31] <Guest93875> anyone want anything
[07:31] <killbee> me want everything
[07:31] <ux2> Money
[07:31] <Jordan_U> killbee: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[07:31] <Guest93875> n;nick
[07:31] <killbee> Ben64 Gparted showing /dev/sda Unallocated 30.00 GiB space
[07:32] <ux2> Guest93875: /Nick new nick
[07:33] <de-facto> there are many programs to print pictures,  from the one that launches when double clicking a picture from "Pictures" in your home directory up to GIMP (if you want to do some editing)
[07:33] <gabor> that adobe flash still not working
[07:34] <killbee> Error: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.
[07:34] <gabor> any suggestion
[07:35] <Jordan_U> killbee: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo parted -l". (post it to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and share the link here).
[07:35] <killbee> actually sudo not working it gives me error: killbee is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:35] <Ben64> gabor: can you explain exactly what you're doing and what you want to accomplish
[07:35] <gabor> i wish to run a poker site on browser but needs adobe to run
[07:36] <Ben64> what browser
[07:36] <gabor> i have new installation and i am new
[07:36] <gabor> to linux
[07:36] <Psil0Cybin> thats good
[07:36] <gabor> mozilla
[07:36] <killbee> Jordon_U : actually sudo not working it gives me error: killbee is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:36] <Psil0Cybin> gabor
[07:36] <Psil0Cybin> what poker site do u want to run lol
[07:37] <killbee> Do I need to relogin as root?
[07:37] <gabor> paddypower on browser
[07:37] <Ben64> killbee: no, why don't you have access to sudo?
[07:37] <killbee> I really don't know? I installed it I have passwords for both my root name and Killbee but both aren't working
[07:38] <Ben64> killbee: your root shouldn't have a password
[07:38] <gabor> and if i open the browser it just ask me to download the adobe
[07:38] <killbee> what that means?
[07:38] <gabor> i dont know what version i should download and how to install than]
[07:38] <de-facto> gabor i would recommend to use Chromium browser and install pepperflash for it, then you get the newest player. But flash still has a lot of security issues and will die eventually
[07:39] <killbee> I have seperate user name for root and to login it I need password (which I have)
[07:39] <Ben64> killbee: exactly what i said. root should not have a password. you shouldn't be able to login to it, you're doing it all wrong.
[07:39] <de-facto> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[07:39] <Ben64> killbee: are you running ubuntu even?
[07:39] <killbee> naah.. Its kali linux :)
[07:39] <gabor> ok i try that thanks for the advice
[07:40] <Ben64> then obviously you should be going to their support
[07:40] <killbee> Ohh hmm
[07:40] <killbee> I thought all linux are almost similar
[07:40] <Ben64> you're in #ubuntu, for Ubuntu issues only
[07:41] <killbee> Thanx for the help Ben64 and Jordon_U ! :)
[07:41] <killbee> How to add you in friend list n all?
[07:42] <killbee> ok i got it
[07:42] <killbee> I can't find Kali linux related network in network list
[07:43] <de-facto> gabor if you want firefox you will be stuck on the older version, you can then install adobe-flash-properties-gtk or just adobe-flashplugin (but be warned the api it uses is very unsecure, i.e. a lot of exploits can use it)
[07:45] <bobby_> hello
[07:45] <bobby_> how to install fglrx updates properly ?
[07:45] <bobby_> i was install fglrx updates and always fail
[07:51] <BlackRainbow> is Bumblebee an acceptable way to use video card with hybrid Intel CPU? Or there are other official solutions?
[07:52] <blanko> Anyone Helper online ?
[07:53] <de-facto> !ask | blanko
[07:55] <blanko> I use ubuntu 15.10 and i have problem with SD card reader realtek 522a
[07:56] <bobby_> blanko : try to open https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommunityHelpWiki
[07:56] <Crackpotmark> What is the best way to get details on folder size/usage? My boot partition does not have the free space I expect it to have.
[07:56] <Crackpotmark> I'm missing about 15mb
[07:56] <bobby_> Crackpotmark : use disk use analzyer
[07:57] <ratrace> Crackpotmark: MiB vs MB difference perhaps? What's the expected size?
[07:57] <de-facto> blanko have you read this? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/731093/sd-card-reader-realtek-522a-not-working-in-dell-i7559-in-ubuntu-15-10
[07:58] <Crackpotmark> disks utility reports 40mb free from 105mb total. Disk usage analyser only finds 50mb used
[07:58] <Crackpotmark> sudo ls /boot gives the same file listings as disk usage analyser
[07:58] <blanko> de-facto i read this and upgrade my kernel to 4.4.1-040401-generic but not working
[07:59] <ratrace> Crackpotmark: always trust ls :)
[07:59] <de-facto> blanko can you be more specific in what is not working and what kind of errors you get from it?
[08:00] <de-facto> blanko i.e. what does this "lspci -nnk" tell you? did it change from what it told you before?
[08:02] <de-facto> blanko and did you reboot after installing that kernel? you can see with "uname -a" which kernel you are currently running
[08:03] <blanko> de-facto Ubuntu not detected SD reader give error : [46041.321984] vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device [47558.017359] vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device [48600.758589] mmc0: cannot verify signal voltage switch
[08:03] <blanko> de-facto: yes i reboot i am in new kernel now
[08:04] <blanko> ops
[08:04] <blanko> sorry
[08:04] <blanko> not this error
[08:04] <blanko> thi is the error : [48602.638830] mmc0: cannot verify signal voltage switch [48602.753645] mmc0: tuning execution failed [48602.753655] mmc0: error -22 whilst initialising SD card
[08:08] <Crackpotmark> so I emptied /boot formatted it and its still 8.7% full (From 105MB). I guess its just filesystem overheads. oh well :)
[08:09] <Crackpotmark> How much space would you allow in boot per kernal? 60MB each?
[08:12] <de-facto> blanko hmm i never had such problem but in your place i would try to google for that error to get more information
[08:13] <blanko> de-facto: Ok  i am searching to fix the problem
[08:14] <blanko> Thanks for help
[08:24] <swge> holey
[08:26] <kk_> hello Everyone
[08:26] <kk_> Need help in one ubuntu issue
[08:26] <kk_> am I in the correct group who can techinically help me for the Ubuntu issues
[08:27] <kk_> I ahve Ubuntu 14.04 LTS installaed on my laptop
[08:28] <BlackRainbow> kk_: yes, ask
[08:32] <kk_> I had doen apt-get update yesterday & now unable to boot Ubuntu.. it's showing a Ubuntu logo & not going further
[08:32] <kk_> what could be the issue & how to resolve it
[08:34] <de-facto> you might press Ctrl Alt F1 to change to tty1 and log in to the tty. then you could investigate further e.g. with dmesg and cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:35] <kk_> Thanks .. let me try this
[08:39] <LargerMon> i have a friend who has requested Ubuntu on his laptop.  I need to install now so my question is: " What is the best version to install now with an auto upgrade path to 16.04LTS"  Is it 15.10 or is there a 16.04 beta?
[08:40] <Ben64> there is a 16.04 beta. for support and discussion, join #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <LargerMon> thanks Ben64
[08:42] <de-facto> kk_ btw your GUI usually is on tty7 e.g. Ctrl Alt F7
[08:47] <moxi> hello all! :-)
[08:50] <garshol> Hi moxi
[08:52] <moxi> Hi garshol
[08:52] <moxi> ....watching Louis CK, trying to kill the last hour of work lol
[09:00] <Igor_> hello
[09:00] <w0lf> hello all
[09:00] <Igor_> hi
[09:01] <w0lf> in ubunut openjdk7 jre comes as pre installed ?
[09:02] <Ben64> no
[09:02] <Igor_> no
[09:06] <w0lf> on ubuntu 14.04 ? its a fresh install
[09:06] <w0lf> and when i type java -version
[09:06] <w0lf> its shows me the version ?
[09:07] <macopython> Is there any way to supply password from stdin in scp ?. Like echo "password" | scrp <source> <destination>. Any idea ?
[09:08] <Ben64> macopython: bad idea. use an ssh key instead
[09:09] <macopython> @Ben64. I know that way but I need to automate things so need to supply password in Python code only
[09:09] <macopython> I have a Python script executing scp using subprocess
[09:09] <Ben64> you don't need a password if you use a key
[09:09] <macopython> Ya but I have to setup key
[09:09] <Ben64> yep
[09:10] <macopython> My script will be running on many systems where I can't setup keys and all
[09:10] <Ben64> then maybe you should re-think giving out your ssh login to random places
[09:11] <k1l_> macopython: whxy dont you use a http(s) download then and wget if you spread the password around the world anyway?
[09:11] <macopython> By random means in my own cluster
[09:12] <BlackRainbow> w0lf: on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 there is no java, so it wont show the version of it
[09:13] <herodash> hi
[09:14] <veyoon> Can someone help me with forwarded X sessions by ssh? I can see the reomte windows on my screen with all the buttons, frames and controls but I cannot see the text.
[09:15] <veyoon> Text seems to be there however, I can mark it and copy into a text editor. That's currently the only way to make it visible :-(
[09:16] <Unhammer> hey, thought I'd try installing xenial a bit early on one of my computers, but I'm getting a heck of a lot of  "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" – is this expected?
[09:16] <Unhammer> systemd, systemd-sysv, init, mysql etc etc etc
[09:17] <popey> Unhammer: better to ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:17] <popey> which is the support channel for devel releases
[09:17] <Unhammer> aha, thanks popey :)
[09:17] <popey> np
[09:24] <bobby_> hello
[09:33] <Nene1> ratrace: hiii
[09:34] <ratrace> ohai
[09:34] <Nene1> i installed security-updates using unattended-upgrades... after this my perl pkg got updated
[09:34] <Nene1> and i want to downgrade that
[09:35] <Nene1> ratrace: i am using apt-get --reinstall install perl=5.18.2-2ubuntu1
[09:35] <Nene1> but it is throwing E: Version '5.18.2-2ubuntu1' for 'perl' was not found
[09:35] <Nene1> any help
[09:36] <ratrace> Nene1: if you downgrade it, won't the unattended upgrades just update it again? And why do you want to downgrade a security patch?
[09:36] <ratrace> Nene1: and try - instead of =
[09:37] <Nene1> ratrace: i disabled auto updates.. and i want to maker sure that i can revert back to old version if something goes wrong...
[09:38] <Nene1> so checking with perl pkg....
[09:38] <Nene1> no luck with - instead of =
[09:38] <ratrace> which ubuntu version is that, 14.04?
[09:39] <ratrace> what you wrote first, with = was correct, my bad. I just don't know if that's the right version. what does `apt-cache policy perl` say?
[09:40] <Nene1> ratrace: i am using 14.04
[09:40] <ratrace> sorry, madison not policy... `apt-cache madison perl` what does it say?
[09:41] <Nene1> ratrace: it is showing 5.18.2-2ubuntu1.1
[09:42] <ratrace> I guess that's the only version you can install then.
[09:42] <ratrace> I don't think you can roll back on security updates...
[09:44] <Nene1> ratrace: is it?? then i might be in risk...
[09:44] <Nene1> but before upgrade i am sure that there is old version 5.18.2-2ubuntu1
[09:45] <Nene1> ratrace: perl:amd64 (5.18.2-2ubuntu1, 5.18.2-2ubuntu1.1)
[09:45] <ratrace> Nene1: maybe in apt cache, not sure how to access those
[09:45] <Nene1> i cleared the cache
[09:46] <ratrace> Nene1: sorry, I don't know how to help you there then.
[09:46] <Nene1> ok thanks ratrace
[09:46] <fjg> hey quick question: i have a system which i need to reinstall now and want to eventually run 16.04 on it, what is the best way to do that now? install 15.10 and upgrade when the official release is there or install a daily build now?
[09:49] <hateball> fjg: well officially only 15.10 is supported, but I am using 16.04 as my daily driver and it's fine... support for that is in #ubuntu+1 tho
[09:49] <hateball> fjg: Until it is officially released, that is
[09:50] <samgoody> Hi, I am trying to run UFW, but it complains that: problem running iptables: modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:556 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.8.0-22-generic/modules.dep.bin'
[09:50] <samgoody> I did some searching and gather that my headers are more up-to-date than expected, but that the headers I need are no longer available
[09:51] <samgoody> Can anyone advise?
[09:56] <auronandace|work> samgoody: are you running 12.04?
[09:57] <samgoody> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[09:57] <samgoody> iptables v1.4.21
[09:57] <samgoody> according to apt-get everything is up-to-date
[09:58] <auronandace|work> samgoody: well, 3.8.0-22 headers are in the 12.04 repos
[09:59] <auronandace|work> samgoody: if you are on 14.04 then you really should be running a kernel version supported by 14.04
[10:00] <samgoody> How do I check what headers I am running?
[10:00] <samgoody> I have done sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.16.0-26-generic, but the response was odd
[10:01] <auronandace|work> samgoody: to find out what kernel you are currently running check: uname -a
[10:01] <samgoody> Linux sites 3.8.0-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 16 15:17:59 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:01] <samgoody> Maybe I need a reboot?
[10:01] <auronandace|work> samgoody: yes, if you want to run another kernel
[10:02] <samgoody> Rebooting did not help, sill at same kernel.
[10:03] <samgoody> So, I guess the issue is that installing the upgraded kernel did not help. Will try again and paste the  output
[10:03] <samgoody> hmmm, it says: linux-image-3.16.0-26-generic is already the newest version.
[10:04] <auronandace|work> samgoody: when you reboot check the other options in grub, perhaps it is simply set to boot an older version by default
[10:05] <auronandace|work> samgoody: if you can manually boot the new kernel then you can reconfigure grub to select it automatically
[10:06] <samgoody> How do I check the grub configs? I dont have a  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:06] <auronandace|work> samgoody: check /etc/default/grub
[10:07] <lerner> how do I edit a pdf? Its for college, I need to fill in an app form, 3 pages long, and I want to do it with a computer
[10:07] <lerner> non windows
[10:07] <samgoody> ls: cannot access /etc/default/grub: No such file or directory
[10:07] <lerner> name, address...
[10:07] <Ben64> samgoody: is it a vps or virtualized in some way, or some other type of non-standard install
[10:08] <samgoody> sorry. A server on digitalocean, so fully virtual
[10:08] <samgoody> VPS
[10:08] <Ben64> then you might not be able to change kernels. check with your host
[10:09] <auronandace|work> lerner: evince might be able to edit the pdf
[10:14] <kk_> hi
[10:15] <kk_> can anyone tell me what command will revert or uninstall recently installaed updates in Ubuntu
[10:16] <Ben64> kk_: what are you trying to accomplish
[10:16] <k1l_> kk_: usually you dont revert updates since they might have fixed a security issue. so what is the problem and what system do you use?
[10:16] <lerner> auronandace, nope
[10:17] <kk_> I had done apt-get update  & now my Ubuntu 64 bit os is not booting at all
[10:17] <kk_> just showing ubuntu logo with blinking dots under the name
[10:18] <kk_> & hence I wanted to uninstall latest updates from machine..
[10:18] <k1l_> kk_: just "sudo apt update" is not enough to change anything. it will just get the list of new packages available from the servers.
[10:18] <kk_> ir is there any other solution?
[10:19] <k1l_> kk_: so what did you do except running that command? did you change disks? did you isntall other stuff like drivers?
[10:19] <k1l_> kk_: remove the "quiet splash" words from the kernel line and see what error it is showing. when in grub, press "e", then edit out the to words, then press ctrl#+ to boot
[10:19] <kk_> i had installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS   & did not updated it since it's installation
[10:20] <kk_> & henve done the "sudo apt-get update"
[10:22] <k1l_> kk_: like i said, that command doesnt change anything
[10:23] <jancoow> Hi there. When i try to login with lightdm greeter, it says that my password is wrong for some reason.. While i'm 100% sure that it's my password (i used it before a reboot..). Problem is, i can't switch to another tty because it's switching me everytime back to the loginscreen
[10:23] <jancoow> so i'm unable to enter my laptop right now
[10:24] <Ben64> !lostpassword | jancoow
[10:25] <geirha> jancoow: make sure you don't have caps lock or num lock on
[10:26] <geirha> Caps lock should be obvious, num lock not as obvious. Some laptop keyboards have numpad embedded in the "regular" keyboard, where you can type the numbers on it by holding down fn ... or having num lock on
[10:30] <Rinpoo> Hi Ive upgraded my ubuntu via apt-get upgrade and this made my ubuntu 14.04 not boot anymore. I've tried some fixing with no avail I'll just backup my files and switch to a newer version. Question is should I use 15.10 or 16.04 beta and then upgrade the beta to full version when it's out soon
[10:31] <jancoow> Ben64 geirha: nope no caps and numlock. I changed my password earlier in the rescue shell but it doesn't matter, it says still wrong password
[10:34] <mia__> Hey all -- I can't install a software because my softwre center says "dependency is not satisfiable libboost-filesystem1.54.0"
[10:34] <mia__> I tried to do sudo apt-get install libboost-filesystem1.54.0 but there is no package like that unfortunately
[10:34] <mia__> What should I do to fix this
[10:35] <geirha> update the package lists, e.g. by running sudo apt-get update
[10:36] <geirha> jancoow: does your password use any special characters? maybe the keyboard layout is a different language than you expect on the login screen
[10:37] <jancoow> geirha: this is weird. I disabled my greeter in the rescue shell, so i will boot shell now default. I trie to login there with janco and then type my password. But nope, password wrong. I login as root, i do passwd jancoow: enter new password "test". Logout from root, try to login as janco in the shell, but nope again password wrong 0.o
[10:38] <mia__> geirha, I did update
[10:38] <mia__> but the pakage is not there
[10:39] <geirha> jancoow: yeah, that's really odd...
[10:39] <excalith> You may need to add repos manually it happened to me before as well
[10:39] <geirha> mia: do you have any third-party apt-repos enabled?
[10:39] <excalith> Stack has a solution for that
[10:40] <k1l_> mia__: please put those outputs from the terminal into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[10:41] <jancoow> geirha: ugh fixed it. I removed zsh, without setting my default shell back to /bin/bash
[10:41] <mia__> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15756157/
[10:41] <jancoow> sorry
[10:42] <k1l_> mia__: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[10:42] <Rinpoo> when will 16.04 get out of beta?
[10:43] <mia__> 15.10 k1l_
[10:43] <k1l_> Rinpoo: on 21st april
[10:43] <k1l_> mia__: there is no such package for 15.10. what are you installing in first place?
[10:43] <Rinpoo> is the current beta usable?
[10:43] <mia__> emulationstation
[10:43] <mia__> the official .deb file is what I'm installing
[10:44] <Rinpoo> I mean no9t too buggy
[10:44] <Rinpoo> -9
[10:44] <k1l_> Rinpoo: if you need to ask: dont run unstable versions :)  but #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[10:44] <geirha> jancoow: Aha, though it's weird that it specifically said the password was wrong instead
[10:44] <mia__> k1l_, this http://www.emulationstation.org/gettingstarted.html#install_deb
[10:44] <k1l_> mia__: what exactly?
[10:44] <Rinpoo> Im asking cause my 14.04 is broken and I need to reinstall
[10:44] <mia__> wxactly the thing I pasted above
[10:45] <k1l_> mia__: because the 54 version is only in 14.04. so it looks like you try to run software only made for 14.04
[10:45] <mia__> emulation station,
[10:45] <Rinpoo> so I thought about using 16.04 beta and just upgrade it later
[10:45] <k1l_> Rinpoo: install 15.10. then upgrade from end of april to july to the 16.04
[10:45] <mia__> Hm - means there is no way to run this on 15.10?
[10:45] <Rinpoo> instead of installing 14.04 again
[10:45] <mia__> I mean this is a respected emulation manager software
[10:45] <jancoow> geirha: well i discoverd when i did su - janco it gave the error that /bin/zsh couldn't be found. I think the login greeter just think every error is a password error or something like that
[10:45] <Rinpoo> k Ill do that then thx
[10:45] <jancoow> but thanks for helping! :)
[10:46] <k1l_> mia__: i dont see any ubuntu packages at all
[10:46] <mia__> it's debian right
[10:46] <mia__> k1l_, I mean - should work?
[10:46] <k1l_> mia__: no
[10:46] <mia__> :(
[10:46] <k1l_> mia__: and you have one of the reasons just in front of you. broken depencies
[10:47] <k1l_> mia__: why dont you use the PPA the emulationstation team offers?
[10:48] <mia__> k1l_, I don't know what it even means
[10:48] <k1l_> mia__: https://launchpad.net/~emulationstation/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=wily
[10:48] <k1l_> !ppa | mia__
[10:48] <mia__> how do I use it
[10:49] <k1l_> !addppa | mia__
[10:50] <Exagone313> Hi, I need to edit a 2MB JSON, all on one line, with a text editor that would recognize the brackets and so I can detect what I need to edit. On Windows I used Notepad++ and it works fine, but I am looking for a text editor that handle large line on Ubuntu. I tried to open with gedit but it get stuck and cut the line. Vim can open it, but I can't find the corresponding closing bracket because it's too big (do you know any shortcut for that?) Any idea? Thanks
[10:50] <Exagone313> for your help.
[10:51] <mia__> k1l_, what is the "user" in "ppa" ?
[10:51] <mia__> when adding ppa I mean
[10:52] <EriC^^> the launchpad accuont mia__
[10:52] <k1l_> mia__: read the text on the ppa website. it names the user and ppa exactly
[10:53] <mia__> which one? help.ubuntu.com one ? k1l_
[10:53] <zzarr> is there an event when the screen-saver/exits (the display is lit again)?
[10:53] <k1l_> mia__: come on. scroll up. please read what people link and say to you.
[10:53] <hateball> Exagone313: I dont use gedit myself but I'd guess it has an option to disable that behavior. Otherwise you can try the editor Kate, or even NotepadQQ
[10:58] <Exagone313> ok I found the key on vim (%) and I didn't need that
[10:59] <Exagone313> kate needs kde libs
[11:11] <geirha> Exagone313: python -mjson.tool < file.json > tmpfile.json
[11:11] <geirha> that should give you an indented version of the json file
[11:17] <Snake_> Hey everyone, I hope this is alright to ask here, but does anyone know which VERSION of Linux Lubuntu uses?
[11:17] <geirha> same kernel version as the corresponding ubuntu release
[11:18] <Snake_> How can I know which one corresponds to the current version?
[11:18] <geirha> ubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu etc is the same OS. Just some different packages installed by default. Kernel is the same between all of them
[11:18] <geirha> Snake_: lsb_release -a
[11:20] <Snake_> Thanks for the response, but I'm afraid I'm still a little confused, I'm trying to install Lubuntu on my QNAP nas via virtualization station. I downloaded the newest release but when setting up the VM it asks me which version of Linux it is
[11:20] <Myrtti> does it give any options?
[11:20] <Snake_> Yeah
[11:21] <Myrtti> can you give an example of one?
[11:21] <Snake_> From 10.04 - 14.10 / Cent OS / Fedora /Red Hat Enterprise / Suse / Opensuse
[11:22] <Snake_> 10.04 - 14.10 as in Ubuntu
[11:22] <Myrtti> so it's expecting an older version
[11:22] <Myrtti> older than 15.10, that is
[11:22] <Snake_> Seems like it yes, would it possibly work when just trying with 14.10?
[11:23] <Myrtti> what I'd do is download 14.04 version of Lubuntu and try that. Then you can honestly reply that you're doing 14.04.
[11:23] <Myrtti> I wouldn't use 14.10.
[11:23] <Snake_> Ah, how come?
[11:23] <geirha> So it's asking for OS version, not linux version. A confusion of terminology.
[11:23] <Myrtti> because it's not LTS
[11:23] <Snake_> So just find the image for 10.04 Lubuntu and try that?
[11:23] <Myrtti> no, 14.04
[11:24] <Snake_> Ah, yes sorry It says "Version" So I assumed that to be correct
[11:24] <geirha> 10.04 is no longer supported
[11:24] <Snake_> Ah, yes 14:04
[11:24] <Myrtti> 10.04 is six years old now, you wouldn't want that
[11:25] <Snake_> Yeah probably not that great. I'll try with the 14.04 Image and see what happens. Thank you very much for the help! It's very much appreciated :)
[11:32] <Snake_> Alright, so I have set up the VM on my NAS but in the boot loading screen it now says "Boot failed: Could not read from CDROM (Code 0003)
[11:32] <Snake_> And below that "No bootable device"
[11:32] <Snake_> Does anyone know where to go from here?
[11:34] <clueless> Hey All, kinda simple question but if i restart ssh would that affect samba connections in any way?
[11:34] <geirha> Snake_: add the iso as virtual cd?
[11:35] <Snake_> Yes
[11:35] <Snake_> Wait, well it's an Iso?
[11:35] <Snake_> "lubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-i386.iso"
[11:38] <Snake_> It's a "Desktop Image" downloaded from here - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ I assumed that was the right .iso?
[11:38] <Rinpoo> I have problems making backups with 15.10 livedvd
[11:39] <Rinpoo> letters randomly vanish and reapper
[11:39] <Rinpoo> and I got an error message I cant reasd
[11:40] <g105b> I need to test Ubuntu Server 16.04, how can I upgrade seeing as it is not yet released?
[11:40] <k1l_> g105b: #ubuntu+1 for unstable
[11:41] <g105b> k1l_: I'm using 15.10
[11:42] <Snake_> Does anyone know why my attempted Lubuntu WM install is saying "Could not read from CDROM" when attempting to boot?
[11:51] <moizarif> hi all, i am trying to implement instance HA on ubuntu. and while adding remote nodes into the pacemaker cluster i get an issue with crm after the addition. i have launched an issue with cluster labs on github (Link: https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/issues/131 ) .
[11:51] <moizarif> with this i see that the pacemaker version available upstream is old.
[11:51] <moizarif> pacemaker 1.1.10
[11:52] <moizarif> and i heard that with pacemaker remote i need minimum 1.1.13
[11:52] <moizarif> any ideas regarding this ?
[11:56] <hello214> hey, i'm trying to use the getrandom syscall on Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS but it seems like it's not defined
[11:56] <hello214> how can i solve this?
[11:56] <Rinpoo> is it normal that nautilus doesnt show a copy progress?
[11:57] <k1l_> Rinpoo: no
[11:59] <Rinpoo> live cd is a bit buggy
[12:04] <Rinpoo> .... shitty live cd screwqed up my backup gr8
[12:04] <Rinpoo> -.q
[12:05] <cambia> join #apo33
[12:06] <aleksey> hi, how to start wpa_supplicant instance with -dd flag? I tried to kill it. But then it starts it again. And usually wpa_supplicant says that DBUS token is taken.
[12:07] <Bernzel> Anyone know some sound manipulating software that runs on Linux? I'm talking about stuff like Pro Tools and such.
[12:07] <l0ll1p0p> Bernzel: try audacious
[12:08] <l0ll1p0p> Bernzel: sry not that one
[12:08] <Bernzel> l0ll1p0p you're thinking audocity of what it's called?
[12:08] <l0ll1p0p> Bernzel: audacity
[12:10] <Bernzel> l0ll1p0p, it won't do my needs unfortunately. Guess I'll have to install windows on the side with Ubuntu
[12:10] <Bernzel> ah there's a Ubuntu Studio software. That might be something
[12:12] <chrisml> for a server, should i set the timezone to my local one or use utc?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:14] <t595> time
[12:27] <geirha> chrisml: during installation? specify your local time
[12:33] <eternity> Rachied
[12:34] <eternity> Skule
[12:34] <wodim> yes
[12:34] <Guest17540> _skule
[12:34] <Guest17540> Wat is deze?
[12:34] <k1l_> Guest17540: this is the technical ubuntu support channel
[12:45] <_stink_> anyone else hit a problem with a regular old kernel upgrade on 14.04? seeing "/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools exited with return code 1" in the crash report
[12:45] <k1l> _stink_: is /boot full?
[12:45] <_stink_> ahaa, yes it is
[12:46] <_stink_> man why did boot get created so small
[12:46] <k1l> yep. that is an issue. that is solved with automatic old kernel remove on new kenrel install
[12:46] <_stink_> is there a setting for that?
[12:47] <k1l> but i still dont know why /boot is 200MB on todays storage sizes.
[12:48] <halahulu> Hello, I'm getting a grub prompt at boot with no error messages, can someone help me?
[12:49] <DeaDSouL> hi.. in samba server, none of (create mask, force create mode, security mask, force security mode) works with any created file, if the directory was a symbolic link to a folder out of the shared path, (ps: follow symlinks, wide links are set to yes) how can I force the created files to have a mask of 664 instead of the default wich 670 ?
[12:49] <k1l> _stink_: iirc they fixed it. did you run apt-get autoremove?
[12:51] <Rinpoo> I have problems making a backup of the usr folder
[12:51] <_stink_> k1l: thanks, you were right on.  it is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/798414 and i did purge-old-kernels to free up space, then told it to not reinstall the three oldest kernels using aptitude.  all seems good now.  thanks!!
[12:51] <Rinpoo> I've used sudo nautilus
[12:51] <muessigb> hello!
[12:51] <k1l> Rinpoo: :/
[12:51] <muessigb> is thre a way to block the updating of a specific package?
[12:51] <Rinpoo> but It only copies 2,3 GB of 8gb
[12:51] <muessigb> in my case grub
[12:52] <muessigb> it always wants to install with new linux kernel updates
[12:52] <k1l> Rinpoo: why do you want to backup /usr ?
[12:52] <muessigb> but i keep purging it
[12:52] <muessigb> is there a way to block it entirely?
[12:52] <Rinpoo> tutorial said to back it up
[12:52] <k1l> Rinpoo: and dont run "sudo nautilus". that is bad. dont run sudo on gui programs
[12:52] <halahulu> muessigb: have you tried "--no-install-recommends" option?
[12:52] <Rinpoo> Im on the recovery cd
[12:52] <k1l> muessigb: blocking kernel updates is a heavy security issue
[12:53] <Rinpoo> my old ubuntu is broken
[12:53] <muessigb> i dont want to block the kernel updates but the grub that installs automatically
[12:53] <Rinpoo> I need the backup
[12:53] <muessigb> it keeps messing up my perfect refind uefi installation
[12:54] <k1l> Rinpoo: better get a list of installed packages and safe that. then install that list on the new install
[12:54] <Rinpoo> ill reinstall them
[12:54] <k1l> Rinpoo: on ubuntu you dont handle the executable files manually
[12:54] <muessigb> k1l, halahulu
[12:54] <Rinpoo> I just want config, personal files
[12:55] <Rinpoo> like ssh keys setups etc.
[12:55] <k1l> Rinpoo: personal files are in the users home directory.
[12:55] <halahulu> muessigb: why are you using refind?
[12:55] <k1l> Rinpoo: systemsettings are in /etc.
[12:55] <muessigb> because grub is an ancient piece of tex
[12:55] <muessigb> tech
[12:55] <muessigb> i hate it
[12:55] <Rinpoo> whats in usr then?
[12:55] <k1l> Rinpoo: i bet you would be fine with saving the user /home.
[12:55] <muessigb> refind looks so much nicer and works better with my uefi
[12:56] <Rinpoo> maybe but I want to make sure I have everything important so I have a fallback
[12:56] <muessigb> also it boots my linux and windows in graphics mode
[12:56] <halahulu> muessigb: actually I can't reinstall my broken grub on my EFI setup right now,
[12:56] <muessigb> hmm, good luck
[12:56] <halahulu> maybe I should try refind
[12:56] <Rinpoo> thats why Im trying to make a backup
[12:56] <k1l> Rinpoo: that doesnt make sense, as i explained. just copying back the /usr will make a mess on the new system
[12:56] <muessigb> its really nice; just drop it in the /boot/EFI folder
[12:56] <Rinpoo> Im not gonna use the whle folder
[12:57] <Rinpoo> Im gonna install everything from scratch
[12:57] <halahulu> muessigb: I have one /dev/sda1 which is vfat, and another /dev/sda2 which is ext2 /boot
[12:57] <k1l> Rinpoo: you can understand german? (seeing you have a german ip)
[12:57] <muessigb> well i opted to get rid of secureboot though refind can be enrolled to work with secure boot
[12:57] <Rinpoo> but I want everything to be available in case I need something
[12:57] <Rinpoo> ja kann ich
[12:57] <muessigb> halahulu, where is your /boot that contains the EFI
[12:58] <k1l> Rinpoo: /usr will be created from the ubuntu packages you install. so that is just useless to safe.
[12:58] <muessigb> like there must be an EFI folder in there, isnt it?
[12:58] <k1l> Rinpoo: see this: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Datensicherung/  it explains what and where to backup and why
[12:58] <Rinpoo> ok Ill check it out thx
[12:58] <halahulu> muessigb: it's in /dev/sda1
[12:58] <muessigb> so, your linux doesnt boot anymore, right?
[12:59] <muessigb> or does it?
[12:59] <halahulu> right
[12:59] <halahulu> it won't boot
[12:59] <halahulu> I also have /efi in /dev/sda2
[12:59] <halahulu> and /EFI in /dev/sda1
[12:59] <muessigb> do you have another pc?
[12:59] <muessigb> that runs linux?
[12:59] <Rinpoo> Ill just make an copy of the whole hdd
[12:59] <halahulu> muessigb: nope, I'm on liveUSB now
[12:59] <Rinpoo> way to complicated
[12:59] <muessigb> sure
[13:00] <muessigb> halahulu: http://sourceforge.net/projects/refind/files/0.10.2/refind-bin-0.10.2.zip/download
[13:00] <halahulu> should I just do sudo apt-get install refind?
[13:00] <muessigb> try that binary file
[13:00] <k1l> Rinpoo: safe the home folder and the list of packages installed. so you can install the list on the new system and put back the stuff in the home folder.
[13:00] <muessigb> you can later use aptget to have it stay up to date
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !info refind
[13:01] <k1l> Rinpoo: you dont need to safe stuff that will be put back when you install the packages from the repo anyway
[13:01] <Rinpoo> nah Ill make a complete copy of the partition
[13:01] <halahulu> it's in ppa:rodsmith/refind
[13:01] <Rinpoo> with external software
[13:01] <DeaDSouL> anyone
[13:01] <Rinpoo> if I had done that from the beginning I would be finished already
[13:02] <Rinpoo> the live cd is crap
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !ask | DeaDSouL
[13:02] <muessigb> halahulu: have you tried downloading it?
[13:02] <muessigb> you then need to unzip it and run the script
[13:02] <Rinpoo> and the whole backup process is way to complicated
[13:02] <k1l> Rinpoo: ok, so do it the extra complicated way.
[13:02] <Rinpoo> its not
[13:02] <halahulu> muessigb: yep I've installed it, I have to restart now to try
[13:02] <Rinpoo> your way is the complicated one
[13:02] <k1l> Rinpoo: its not. but you want it your way. which i explained is the complicated one.
[13:02] <halahulu> muessigb: thanks for the tip
[13:02] <DeaDSouL> hi.. in samba server, none of (create mask, force create mode, security mask, force security mode) works with any created file, if the directory was a symbolic link to a folder out of the shared path, (ps: follow symlinks, wide links are set to yes) how can I force the created files to have a mask of 664 instead of the default wich 670 ?
[13:03] <Rinpoo> its not
[13:03] <k1l> Rinpoo: if you want to do a fullbackup with an image. so do it. its your choice
[13:03] <muessigb> so could anybody please help me?
[13:03] <Rinpoo> yes I am
[13:03] <muessigb> preventing a package to install
[13:06] <halahulu> muessigb: I'm back, still got that grub prompt
[13:06] <halahulu> will try again
[13:06] <Rinpoo> booting into software that creates a backup = no work at all but having to use the terminal and reading for hours how to back up linux is supposed to be less complicated
[13:06] <muessigb> have you opened the manager?
[13:06] <muessigb> the uefi boot menu
[13:06] <halahulu> muessigb: nope
[13:06] <muessigb> you should try that
[13:06] <muessigb> i had to do it the first time too
[13:06] <halahulu> how?
[13:06] <k1l> Rinpoo: using "sudo nautilus" method was wrong from the start. i dont know who told you that.
[13:07] <muessigb> spam the f keys during boot
[13:07] <lionelmessi5102> Guys, I've just installed Ubuntu mini.iso and Lubuntu-core, but I can't access my usb drive when I insert it.
[13:07] <muessigb> until you get some menu
[13:07] <muessigb> maybe it tells you what you need
[13:07] <muessigb> for me its F8
[13:07] <muessigb> for boot menu
[13:07] <k1l> lionelmessi5102: you need to mount it
[13:07] <muessigb> try hitting escape the moment you power the pc on
[13:07] <k1l> lionelmessi5102: i dont know if lubuntu uses an automounter. gnome uses gvfs for that
[13:07] <muessigb> many times
[13:08] <Rinpoo> thats what you get when you have to rely on forums/tutorials
[13:10] <halahulu> muessigb: when running the refind-install script,
[13:10] <halahulu> it says: ALERT: There were problems running the efibootmgr program! You may need to
[13:10] <halahulu> rename the refind_x64.efi binary to the default name (EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi
[13:10] <halahulu> on x86-64 systems, EFI/BOOT/bootia32.efi on x86 systems, or
[13:10] <halahulu> EFI/BOOT/bootaa64.efi on ARM64 systems) to have it run!
[13:10] <carpediembaby> Hi, I am using ubuntu 14.04 and from time to time, the mouse pointer disappears. I can still use it, but it just doesn't show where it is. Could someone help me figure out what is the problem and how to solve it?
[13:10] <halahulu> sorry for that
[13:10] <muessigb> have you tried that?
[13:11] <muessigb> is the file even there?
[13:11] <halahulu> muessigb: no, there is only  EFI/boot/bootx64.efi
[13:11] <muessigb> do you have windows too?
[13:12] <muessigb> or only linux?
[13:12] <halahulu> muessigb: no
[13:12] <carpediembaby> I mean the trackpad, not the mouse. it works if i attach a mouse, but not with the trackpad.
[13:12] <halahulu> muessigb: only linux
[13:12] <muessigb> when was this file created?
[13:12] <halahulu> muessigb: yesterday
[13:13] <muessigb> try unpacking the zip
[13:13] <muessigb> into this folder
[13:14] <halahulu> muessigb: that refind_x64.efi file is in /boot/efi/EFI/refind
[13:14] <halahulu> directory
[13:14] <muessigb> great
[13:14] <muessigb> that means its there
[13:15] <muessigb> try deleting the EFI/boot/bootx64.efi
[13:15] <muessigb> and renaming the refind file
[13:15] <halahulu> into /boot/efi/EFI/refind/bootx64.efi?
[13:15] <muessigb> yes
[13:16] <scam> is vmtools outdated on source?
[13:16] <halahulu> muessigb: but I believe my boot images are still in /dev/sda2
[13:16] <halahulu> which is my /boot partition
[13:17] <muessigb> can you copy over?
[13:17] <halahulu> I somehow still boot into grub
[13:17] <halahulu> to /boot/efi?
[13:17] <muessigb> from /boot/efi to your actual partition that contains the efi
[13:19] <halahulu> muessigb: OK, I'm restarting now
[13:19] <muessigb> good luck
[13:19]  * muessigb crosses fingers
[13:22] <lpaalp1> test
[13:22] <lpaalp1> muessigb: it worked!
[13:23] <muessigb> great!
[13:23] <lpaalp1> I'm finally back into my system
[13:23] <muessigb> btw, there is a theme i can suggest
[13:23] <muessigb> https://github.com/EvanPurkhiser/rEFInd-minimal
[13:23] <muessigb> looks like this: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/999cff82d4bea54f222e165d647b5df597f45b86/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f33624d473655372e706e67
[13:23] <lpaalp1> I got this before the boot though: "error:device name required"
[13:23] <lpaalp1> which I think is a grub error message
[13:24] <lpaalp1> I pressed ENTER, than it booted
[13:24] <muessigb> maybe grub is still somewhere
[13:24] <lpaalp1> no graphics also
[13:24] <scam> can you mesg the error after it boots ?
[13:24] <scam> dmesg
[13:24] <lpaalp1> one sec
[13:25] <lpaalp1> what should I look for?
[13:26] <lpaalp1> should I get a GUI at boot now? or is it normal not to have it?
[13:28] <lpaalp1> I can't believe the grub is still there, I'm somehow booting first into grub, then into refind
[13:30] <lpaalp1_> can I just delete the grub directories?
[13:33] <qdk> lpaalp1: That doesnt sound healthy for the system... If you dont wanna use grub, then perhaps uninstall it, which im guessing should fix a working boot. If you just delete and the systems needs it to boot properly, then its kinda bad...
[13:33] <lpaalp1> qdk: yeah I'm now scared to touch it really,
[13:33] <lpaalp1> qdk: maybe it's best to leave it as is
[13:34] <qdk> lpaalp1: Why the dislike towards grup? its pretty much something that you can just ignore and let it do its job.
[13:35] <mapubtv_> lu
[13:35] <lpaalp1> qdk: there's an error message at boot, that's why I dislike it, but I can live with that
[13:36] <lpaalp1> this is the first time I had to reinstall grub on an EFI setup, and it took me 5 days to boot again
[13:36] <lpaalp1> it was so easy with my old motherboard
[13:36] <qdk> lpaalp1: perhaps run update-grub to see if it fixes it.
[13:36] <lpaalp1> qdk: nope, I ran that a million times
[13:37] <qdk> lpaalp1: Your BIOS probably support legacy boot as well?
[13:38] <qdk> lpaalp1: I havent looked much into the fancy "new" boot stuff and the issues there might be, so no input from me there.
[13:47] <puff> Can somebody recommend a music player that just works?  I.e. one that is NOT amarok or rhythmbox?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> vlc
[13:49] <joe75> clementine
[13:50] <pers3us> +1 for clementine
[13:51] <puff> O
[13:51] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[13:51] <yellabs-r2> i would like to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 LTS
[13:51] <puff> Thanks. I'm sooooo tired of trying to get amarok or rhythmbox to just play some music.
[13:52] <yellabs-r2> i cant get the update manager to give me the message of new LTS
[13:52] <puff> yellabs-r2: I just ended up reinstalling from scratch.
[13:52] <yellabs-r2> hmm
[13:52] <puff> yellabs-r2: Although I think we're near the end of the support window for 14.04LTS.
[13:52] <brainwash> !16.04
[13:52] <cfhowlett> puff, false.   5 years of support
[13:52] <yellabs-r2> i move from LTS to LTS
[13:53] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, software updater > updates > notify me of a new Ubuntu version: for LTS versions
[13:54] <puff> cfhowlett: Odd,this says EOL august 2016:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[13:54] <brainwash> should one wait with upgrading until 16.04.1 is out?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> puff, the hwe pack is EOL but 14.04 has 5 years of support
[13:54] <cfhowlett> brainwash, I do exactly that
[13:55] <brainwash> ok good
[13:55] <yellabs-r2> i did that - software updater > updates > notify me
[13:55] <yellabs-r2> but does not notify
[13:55] <puff> cfhowlett: Ah, yeah.  I should have said more that 16.04 LTS is about to come out.
[13:55] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:55] <yellabs-r2> should i reboot ? ( so windows )
[13:55] <yellabs-r2> will that give me an LTS ?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, no
[13:56] <cfhowlett> that will fully upgrade 12.04 as required to uppgrade to 14.04
[13:56] <yellabs-r2> ah okey , have done that
[13:56] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2 now: sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:57] <yellabs-r2> that sounds better :)
[13:57] <yellabs-r2> ps : already made backups
[13:58] <yellabs-r2> hmm, did not find new version
[13:58] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, well, heck I ASSUMED that!
[13:58] <yellabs-r2> thats odd
[13:58] <cfhowlett> ehh, wait
[13:59] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, OK< sorry,
[13:59] <cfhowlett> missed a step
[14:00] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install update-manager-core
[14:00] <yellabs-r2> ah lol
[14:00] <yellabs-r2> we both learn
[14:00] <yellabs-r2> :)
[14:00] <cfhowlett> well I only do this every 2 years so, I get a bit rusy
[14:00] <cfhowlett> rusty
[14:00] <yellabs-r2> me too
[14:01] <yellabs-r2> okey , say's its already the newest manager
[14:01] <cfhowlett> sudo update-manager -d
[14:01] <cfhowlett> should give you a bunch of info
[14:02] <yellabs-r2> could it have something to do with the main server ?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> sudo update-manager -d
[14:02] <cfhowlett> nope.  this is an operator headspace issue
[14:02] <k1l> what upgrade do you want to  do?
[14:03] <k1l> the -d switch is _only_ for going to developer releases.
[14:03] <yellabs-r2> from 12.04 to 14.04
[14:03] <k1l> yellabs-r2: than dont use -d
[14:03] <k1l> what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[14:04] <yellabs-r2> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[14:05] <k1l> ok. what is the last line of "tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[14:05] <cfhowlett> k1l, what the hey?  he should be able to do-release-upgrade from 12.04 > 14.04 yes??
[14:05] <Trinity> is there a way to have a game run
[14:05] <yellabs-r2> it should be possible yes
[14:06] <Trinity> but disabled opengl?
[14:06] <k1l> cfhowlett: yes. but telling everyone to just run -d is just bad. the internet if sull of "just use the -d" which results people going to unstable releases
[14:06] <cfhowlett> k1l, true.  noted.
[14:06] <Trinity> so the game is running fine with all the network logic but it's just not displaying?
[14:07] <k1l> yellabs-r2: what tells you the prompt?
[14:07] <yellabs-r2> its not there , but it is , just cd into it ..
[14:08] <yellabs-r2> opened it with nano
[14:08] <yellabs-r2> the last line ? prompt=lts
[14:08] <yellabs-r2> for tail -1
[14:09] <k1l> yellabs-r2: that command didnt work? "tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[14:09] <yellabs-r2> yeah that one , but maybe its my bad
[14:09] <yellabs-r2> any way , file is open with nano
[14:10] <k1l> ok, close it
[14:10] <yellabs-r2> but wait , not uncheck the #  lts - check if new release is
[14:10] <yellabs-r2> etc ?
[14:11] <k1l> yellabs-r2: can you please run "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades |nc termbin.com 9999"  and show the link?
[14:12] <yellabs-r2> sure
[14:12] <yellabs-r2> why not  http://termbin.com/lq3x
[14:12] <yellabs-r2> i think i need to uncheck the #
[14:13] <k1l> yellabs-r2: no. that is fine
[14:13] <cfhowlett> same as mine
[14:14] <k1l> yellabs-r2: can you please run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list |nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:14] <sister_acer> ciao
[14:14] <yellabs-r2> sure : http://termbin.com/ccnq
[14:15] <yellabs-r2> i did turn off most ppa's
[14:15] <k1l> ok, now please run a "sudo apt-get update |nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:16] <yellabs-r2> as long as its not an rm home .. :) : http://termbin.com/5nx1
[14:17] <yellabs-r2> using dutch server, i tried main server also
[14:17] <k1l> yellabs-r2: ok. and a "sudo do-release-upgrade" offers the upgrade now?
[14:18] <yellabs-r2> i guess not since we did not change a thing yet .. but i will try
[14:19] <yellabs-r2> hmm, it lets me down
[14:19] <yellabs-r2> no new version
[14:19] <yellabs-r2> i think its a once in a life time oddity only on my machine .. ;)
[14:21] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, worst case: torrent the ISO and clean install.
[14:21] <cfhowlett> or wait and go to 16.04
[14:23] <hicoleri> I was recently having this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122159  and followed this solution: http://goo.gl/H5xVrj . The problem is, after doing that, I could no longer boot into linux, and as a result, had to reinstall ubuntu. How should I prevent that?
[14:23] <yellabs-r2> just to make sure i am going for a reboot , who knows..
[14:23] <yellabs-r2> be back soon ..
[14:25] <skejserjensen> qoura
[14:26] <axisys> how do I map a windows drive ? mount does not give any error but permission denied when trying to access the partition... dir and file mode shows 0755 in /proc/mounts
[14:27] <axisys> I am trying to mount it like this .. mount -t cifs -o username=axisys //windir.example.com/home /mnt
[14:28] <vfw> Please, some of you, take a look at this and see what could be wrong: http://vhbin.net/code/57edxipg0if4
[14:28] <vfw> (It was upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and now has problems.
[14:28] <cfhowlett> vfw, then you have issues
[14:29] <vfw> cfhowlett: Please use complete sentence.
[14:29] <Skyrider> unrar is not a default package in ubuntu?
[14:29] <k1l> vfw: what issues?
[14:30] <Skyrider> E: Package 'unrar' has no installation candidate <- referring to that
[14:30] <k1l> Skyrider: what ubuntu version exactly?
[14:30] <vfw> k1l: It hangs, basically just freeze issues.
[14:30] <axisys> working now.. I need to pick a non default domain ...
[14:31] <Skyrider> 15.10
[14:31] <teward> Skyrider: make sure you have Universe enabled
[14:31] <vfw> It is a broken system.  Please just look at the data from the link I sent and try to figure out what is wrong.
[14:31] <teward> correction, multiverse
[14:31] <CaptainWasabi> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/ is down
[14:31] <k1l> Skyrider: is multiverse enabled?
[14:31] <CaptainWasabi> this is preventing do-release-upgrade from working (12.04 to 14.04)
[14:32] <teward> Skyrider: 'unrar' is provided by unrar-nonfree, in Multiverse - make sure you have Multiverse enabled
[14:32] <CaptainWasabi> is this the right place to notify?
[14:32] <Skyrider> Most likely not :p, unless there's another package that can unrar rar files.
[14:32] <k1l> CaptainWasabi: ah yes.
[14:32] <vfw> Anyone have any ideas?
[14:33] <Skyrider> Thanks for the heads-up regarding multiV.
[14:33] <teward> vfw: um, *what* data in the link?  You only provide us the apt-get output - nothing else to work with.
[14:35] <Dirkos> I added this line to my /etc/rc.local but when connecting again and sudo to root my env variable is gone again
[14:35] <Dirkos> export SONAR_RUNNER_HOME="/opt/sonar-scanner-2.5.1/"
[14:37] <konn> hello! disclaimer: maybe I'm not in the right place, but I have to start somewhere!
[14:37] <vfw> I suppose that "Ign" means "Ignore".  From that, I assume that the package management system is broken.  Am I on the right track?
[14:37] <tmkt> is  http://changelogs.ubuntu.com down?
[14:37] <ikonia> konn: you're in #ubuntu, we'll help you with ubuntu issues
[14:38] <konn> i dont know whether its an ubuntu issue in general
[14:38] <CaptainWasabi> tmkt: yes
[14:38] <konn> so maybe I'm in the wrong place
[14:38] <konn> but lets see
[14:38] <vfw> More specifically, the mirrors list got corrupted during the 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> or maybe you could, you know, ASK the question??
[14:39] <sipior> vfw: no, that's normal behaviour. what sort of problems are you seeing?
[14:39] <vfw> I see "Get" and "Ign" at the start of a lot of those lines..
[14:39] <k1l> vfw: what is the issue? the "ign" is not an issue
[14:39] <akik> Dirkos: /etc/rc.local is run once booting, not connected to your user. you should put the variable to your own user initialization files or to /etc/profile for all users
[14:39] <k1l> vfw: its just that this servers dont have a new package list
[14:39] <vfw> It stalls.  The screen freezes.
[14:39] <k1l> vfw: that is not related to the apt update command.
[14:39] <vfw> k1l: Oh, ok.
[14:39] <k1l> vfw: see "dmesg" what is wrong
[14:40] <sipior> vfw: when does it stall? are you running the same program when it stalls? does it eventually recover? can you log in remotely?
[14:40] <konn> its rather complex.. it involves an ubuntu server install, running  an openvpn server and samba (smbd). long story short, is this: when I'm at home, I can resolve the ubuntu servers netbios name, but if I connect to the vpn server  i cant resolve it!
[14:40] <vfw> It may be related to Firefox and Thunderbird running at the same time.
[14:41] <tmkt> any mirror i can use in the meantime? not finding any
[14:41] <ikonia> konn: so I assume you're using openvpn in a bridge mode ?
[14:41] <konn> my question is this: can I tell somehow my ubuntu (client/laptop) to try and resolve a hostname over the openvpn connection ?
[14:41] <konn> i dont remember which mode is which, i see a tun interface
[14:41] <konn> is that for the bridge mode ?
[14:41] <ikonia> it could be either
[14:41] <ikonia> tun or tap
[14:41] <ikonia> you need to know that
[14:42] <ikonia> I suspect because you are bridging netbois isn't being sent over it
[14:42] <konn> hmm.. i guess server.conf?
[14:42] <vfw> (Not totally sure, it is a friend of mine and he is emailing me.  I tried to get him on here last night, but he couldn't seem to share this information with you guys.  He was not sure hot to interact with IRC.
[14:42] <konn> give me a sec
[14:42] <vfw> Ok, well, you guys seem to have answered my basic question. Thank you very much.
[14:44] <vfw> k1l: I will ask him for output of "dmesg"
[14:44] <ricebean> Hello.
[14:45] <ricebean> Does anybody have a clue why Khmer text appears as a bunch of squares instead of the appropriate Khmer character?
[14:46] <konn> ikonia, i'm pretty sure i'm using routing
[14:46] <sipior> ricebean: likely the font you're using doesn't have those glyphs
[14:46] <konn> (like 99.9% sure, I dont see any bridge-related options enabled in server.conf)
[14:46] <ikonia> konn: ok - so what's routing you netbios
[14:47] <ricebean> And what font can I use to display Khmer text?
[14:47] <sipior> ricebean: might start here: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/raring/fonts-khmeros-core/
[14:47] <konn> um.. ok maybe i'm a little dumber than i thought... what do you mean?
[14:47] <vfw> Another thing I should add;  It is dual-boot and Win7 seems to work just fine, so I do not think it is a hardware issue.
[14:48] <konn> (probably the answer is "nothing", since i dont know what you are talking about...)
[14:48] <sipior> ricebean: use whatever ubuntu version is appropriate
[14:48] <vfw> (At least, that is what my friend has told me.)
[14:48] <ikonia> so that would be the thing to look at then
[14:48] <ikonia> (look at first anyway)
[14:48] <konn> ok, is that something that i can set the vpn server to do?
[14:49] <konn> maybe some directive I've missed?
[14:49] <ricebean> What kind of services, if any, can I use to access IPv6 sites?
[14:49] <ikonia> what are you using as the routing
[14:49] <ikonia> I assume iptables
[14:49] <konn> yes
[14:49] <konn> err.. i thought iptables was a firewall? :P
[14:49] <ikonia> it can be used as a firewall
[14:49] <ikonia> but it also controls your routing
[14:49] <ikonia> is your IP traffic routing correctly
[14:50] <konn> the only thing I have done to iptables (concerning the vpn) is adding a line that allows all traffic from it
[14:50] <konn> ACCEPT     all  --  10.8.0.0/24          0.0.0.0/0 <- something like that
[14:50] <ikonia> thats just the firewall rule, thats not the routing
[14:51] <konn> ok
[14:52] <konn> ok, let me see if i got this correctly
[14:53] <konn> i must use iptables to enable some kind of routing for (i presume) netbios ?
[14:53] <gleaker> need some help with an error please....
[14:53] <ikonia> konn: is your IP being routed
[14:53] <gleaker> no module named conman/linux-gnu-i686-0.17.3/module.so could be found in the modules search directories
[14:53] <ricebean>  
[14:54] <ikonia> gleaker: that doesn't seem a real mdule
[14:54] <ikonia> module
[14:54] <ikonia> I've no idea what tht is
[14:54] <konn> umm.. what exactly do you mean by "is my ip being routed" ?
[14:54] <gleaker> thats the error word for word ...... im starting up under enlightenment
[14:54] <konn> (sorry if this is getting dumber by the minute..)
[14:55] <vfw> gleaker: From where does the error come?  How is it generated?
[14:55] <vfw> gleaker: What causes the error?
[14:55] <gleaker> just says there was an eerror loaing the module
[14:56] <gleaker> when i start up under enlightenemnt it always appears
[14:56] <konn> i've set up a routed vpn because i want to access only the box running the openvpn server, not the rest of my home lan
[14:56] <vfw> gleaker: So, it is an error that shows up on the screen when you boot enlightenment. A window?
[14:56] <konn> that box doesnt run anything to do routing, my whole home lan is routed by my internet modem/router
[14:57] <ikonia> konn: it must route someting
[14:57] <ikonia> you're using the vpn in routed mode, so you must route IP traffic to your home network to even get an IP
[14:57] <gleaker> its a dialog box that says it and there are 2 buttons you can click on...... one says unload the other says keep
[14:57] <vfw> gleaker: A window, or some type of GUI screen contains the error message?
[14:58] <konn> i dont really know, but the vpn works
[14:58] <nathan> hey could anyone right a chrome app that lets me select text right click the press run in terminal?
[14:58] <konn> i can use 10.8.0.1 and connect to the server just fine
[14:58] <vfw> gleaker: So it gives you options to "upload" or "keep"?
[14:58] <ikonia> konn: what server
[14:58] <gleaker> unload or keep
[14:58] <ikonia> konn: try to explain your routed traffic
[14:59] <konn> but thats what i am trying to say... i am not routing anything, at least not on purpose! let me try to explain the whole setup as simply as I can, maybe I didnt give you the full picture
[15:00] <konn> in my home there's a computer running some services (web server, smbd, stuff). this computer is connected to my home wi-fi
[15:01] <vfw> gleaker: Did this start happening after installing a new app. or some new configuration you've done?
[15:01] <konn> when i'm at home, i join my laptop to my home network, and I can access those services either by ip (192.168.whatever) or by what I have set as my netbios hostname in smbd
[15:02] <konn> i can ping <netbios name>, and I can use smb://<netbios name>
[15:02] <konn> just fine
[15:02] <auronandace> gleaker: i think conman is enlightenment's network connection manager, ubuntu uses NetworkManager by default
[15:02] <TheMontyChrist> can I install .deb from synaptic?
[15:02] <slaffe> What is the best application to run on ub server 14.04 if you want to stream movies from your server to your smartphone over the internet?
[15:03] <konn> when I'm not at home and connect to the vpn server, that is running on the same box as the other services I want to be able to reach, I get an ip of 10.8.whatever
[15:03] <konn> i can then reach that box by its ip, 10.8.0.1
[15:03] <konn> i can do http://10.8.0.1 or smb://10.8.0.1
[15:04] <konn> and it works just fine, but I would like to be able to use http://<netbios name> when I'm connected to the vpn, as well
[15:04] <gleaker> ok thnx
[15:04] <konn> i believe that my problem -in somewhat technical terms- is that I cannot resolve the netbios name of the box, when I'm connected over openvpn
[15:05] <konn> and thats what I would like to fix, if it is possible to do that at all (maybe it isnt? I dont know!)
[15:05] <vfw> konn: Sounds like something that could be done on your router.
[15:06] <konn> vfw, what kind of setting am I looking for ?
[15:07] <kgirthofer> hey all - what's everyone using for network asset discovery? I'd like to use something other than spiceworks
[15:09] <vfw> konn: With my router's setup, I can ping either an IP address or a hostname and I get the same computer.
[15:09] <ikonia> konn: sorry, I had to step away
[15:09] <vfw> konn: It resolves a hostname to the IP
[15:10] <konn> ikonia: seriously? you're apologizing? i should be apologizing for probably the dumbest networking Q's ever :P
[15:10] <ikonia> konn: I think your problem is the fact that you are trying to this over a routed VPN - this is a fine approach, but you will need to have something setup to route that traffic
[15:10] <vfw> konn: But on most routers, you can designate the host name, (otherwise, it just uses the hostbname as reported by the PC).
[15:10] <ikonia> konn: this is not your setup, but this is the essense of what you are trying to do https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11369381/netbios-queries-accross-vlans
[15:11] <ikonia> konn: think of your incoming route to the box as VLAN1 and your routing to your normal network VLAN2
[15:11] <konn> hmm so I need to "forward" my netbios traffic that comes in on the tun0 interface to the server's lan0 interface and then route back the answer?
[15:12] <konn> (maybe an understatement, but something like that?)
[15:12] <ikonia> konn: in principcal yes
[15:13] <konn> hmm ok i think i understand better what the problem is
[15:13] <konn> let me ask one more thing, in case you know how that is done
[15:14] <konn> i will gladly try it, so i can learn someting new but is it worth the effort?
[15:14] <konn> or should I just switch to bridged mode?
[15:14] <konn> (I would just like your opinion on the matter)
[15:14] <ikonia> konn: you could do - but I personally don't like bridge mode, but thats just me
[15:15] <konn> yeah i didnt really like it either, since the computer running the openvpn doesn't act as anything like a dhcp or dns server
[15:15] <nemmonszzz> can anyone help me diagnose why a symlink of mine might be broken? i'm logged into a vagrant box running ubuntu 14.04
[15:15] <konn> that's kind of why I went with the routed approach
[15:16] <konn> didn't really care to set dhcp ranges for the home connections, and for the vpn incoming connections and [...]
[15:16] <konn> so, you said iptables might be up for the job ?
[15:16] <ikonia> iptables will do the job quite well
[15:16] <konn> ok, I'll look into that
[15:16] <nemmonszzz> the user i'm logged in as has ownership of /var/virtual/mywebsite and i'm trying to link from one subfolder to another inside. the symlink gets created but then when i try to cd into it, it says "no such file or directory"
[15:16] <konn> any starting point? or just google "iptables routing" and get  studying?
[15:18] <ikonia> konn: thats not a bad starting point to be honest, just keep in mind, it's not all tcp you want here
[15:19] <konn> yeah i seem to recall netbios having something to do with udp ports...139? something like that?
[15:20] <konn> anyway, I'll figure it out or at least die trying :P
[15:20] <konn> thanks for the effort ! i hope i can figure this out on my own and not come back crying a week later after reading too much about routing :P
[15:21] <ng2> HELP: Accidently deleted a backup file! :-( And there's only one partition. No access to live cd. What to do?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> konn, do you have nbtscan installed . this might help , http://serverfault.com/questions/116716/how-to-get-netbios-name-from-network-computer-linux
[15:22] <rory> ng2: Step 1 is shut down immediately and don't boot back up unless you have a live CD/USB
[15:22] <rory> ng2: The longer you keep it running, the less likely it is you can recover the file
[15:22] <ng2> Is there no other option?
[15:22] <rory> ng2: You should assume the file is gone for good, BUT
[15:23] <ng2> still I want to see if it's there or not? Is it possible to check even that?
[15:23] <rory> ng2: You could use something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Photorec
[15:23] <rory> ng2: I've had various levels of sucess with that in the past. Other people might have different opinions on better tools than photorec (please?)
[15:23] <ng2> It's an archive file. most probably was a zip one. Can photorec search it?
[15:23] <k1l> ng2: the longer you use that system the more risk that the space on the hdd is already given to a new file and has overwritten the old data
[15:24] <ouroumov__> ng2, if the data is at all important, power off now
[15:24] <ng2> hmmm
[15:24] <rory> ng2: I'd recommend reading that full page on data recovery, and working out your best option yourself
[15:24] <rory> ng2: You need to do it from a live environment though, so shut down ASAP
[15:24] <ng2> thanks rory and ouroumov, you're nice people. I'll go and read the doc.
[15:25] <rory> ng2: Be prepared that the file is gone forever though. Good luck.
[15:25] <ng2> hmm, will see
[15:29] <vfw> nemmonszzz: Is it a webserver?
[15:29] <nemmonszzz> vfw yes
[15:30] <vfw> nemmonszzz: Run ls on the symlink and see what it really points to.
[15:30] <nemmonszzz> vfw thanks but i've done that. it points to a folder that clearly exists
[15:31] <nemmonszzz> except for some reason in the folder path it's displaying '\' instead of '/' but i assume that's cosmetic?
[15:32] <vfw> nemmonszzz: try ls *partname*  # In that directory
[15:32] <vfw> nemmonszzz: Are there spaces or special characters in the name?
[15:32] <k1l> nemmonszzz: \ is an escape. that is not the same as /
[15:33] <ricebean> How can I connect to a IPv6 site if my ISP only supports IPv4?
[15:33] <vfw> nemmonszzz: Yes, that is what I'm asking.  You will sometimes have problems like this when you have special characters or spaces in a file name or in a directory name.
[15:33] <y0g3sh> anyone here attending linuxconf 2016 Japan?
[15:33] <nemmonszzz> vfw there are no special characters in the directory name
[15:34] <vfw> nemmonszzz: So, is this where the user's site is served from?
[15:34] <nemmonszzz> vfw yes
[15:34] <nemmonszzz> when i type ln -s /var/virtual/mysite/path/to/my/folder linkdirectory then ln -s, i see 'linkdirectory - > \var\virtual\mysite\path\to\my\folder'
[15:35] <craptalk> where can i ask about android studio?
[15:36] <ricebean> craptalk: if it's about ubuntu studio, i believe you go to #ubuntu-studio
[15:36] <vfw> nemmonszzz: Ok, let me tell you how I handle this... I'll PM you
[15:36] <craptalk> ricebean: well, you should read my chat again
[15:37] <BluesKaj> craptalk, try #android
[15:37] <ricebean> craptalk: I thought you misspelled it with Ubuntu Studio, my bad. :P
[15:38] <bazhang> craptalk, #android
[15:38] <BluesKaj> ricq it's not a bad, it's just a mistake
[15:38] <craptalk> yap i found it
[15:38] <bazhang> craptalk, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:38] <craptalk> thanks all
[15:38] <BluesKaj> ricebean, rather
[15:38] <ricebean> It's OK.
[15:39] <ricebean> Are there any programs for Ubuntu that you can use to send out newsletters via email?
[15:39] <ricebean> Of course, not for spam purposes.
[15:39] <mguy> ricebean: free ones?
[15:39] <ricebean> Yeah, kind of like that.
[15:40] <mguy> It's not hard to use a simple templated system and then feed it a list of email addresses + names
[15:40] <ricebean> A script can be fine, if that's possible.
[15:41] <ricebean> Although the program must show only the recepient's email address in the To field from the receiver's end.
[15:41] <ricebean> *recipient
[15:42] <bazhang> !info sympa | ricebean
[15:42] <bazhang> try that ricebean
[15:42] <ricebean> I'll try that, thanks! :D
[15:44] <axisys> how do I make sure system does not stuck at boot if the remote file system is not available?
[15:44] <axisys> is there something like background mount?
[15:45] <axisys> or may be a some cronjob to check continuosly before mount?
[15:45] <EriC^^> axisys: which ubuntu
[15:46] <axisys> 14.04
[15:46] <axisys> EriC^^: ^
[15:46] <ricebean> What interface does sympa offer?
[15:47] <llutz> axisys: use nofail or _netdev mount-options
[15:49] <axisys> llutz: thanks!
[15:55] <nemmonszzz> @vfw i figured it out. i'm running ubuntu in virtualbox via a windows host and apparently there's a bug with symlinks in shared directories. stupid me. thanks again for your help.
[15:59] <minas> Hello! Is anyone using 16.04 beta? I noticed that the application menu (at the top of each window) has disappeared.
[16:02] <Pici> minas: try #ubuntu+1
[16:03] <rud0lf> minas: i've managed to fix it by a silly trick
[16:04] <ricebean> I am trying to configure Sympa with MySQL, but every time I put in my password, it shows this error message: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[16:04] <minas> rud0lf How?
[16:04] <ricebean> Any assistance?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> !find sympa
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> !info sympa
[16:05] <rud0lf> minas: make second account (admin one), login as second one, remove first and add it back
[16:05] <ricebean> And how do I do that?
[16:05] <ricebean> I'm not experienced with MySQL and all that, I'm just asking.
[16:05] <rud0lf> or just make a second account and remove first one if you don't care about new user name
[16:05] <minas> rud0lf I care about my data :P
[16:06] <rud0lf> hmm hmm
[16:06] <minas> I'll ask on ubuntu+1
[16:06] <rud0lf> ok
[16:06] <minas> Thanks my friend
[16:06] <rud0lf> np
[16:06] <ricebean> Sorry, responded to the wrong guy.
[16:06] <stratum> will xenial use mir or xserver? will I be able to clean-install gnome-shell with xserver from server image?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> stratum  #ubuntu+1
[16:07] <dontknow> stratum, it doesn't use mir
[16:08] <stratum> ok then. a clean-install of gnome-shell/xserver should be doable then :)
[16:09] <brainwash> it will use mir if you install unity 8, right?
[16:10] <k1l> brainwash: no.
[16:10] <kalexyco> bonsoir
[16:11] <stratum> IIRC there was a lot of talk about mir vis-a-vis xenial
[16:11] <k1l> brainwash: at the moment there is only a lxc container with mir and unity8. so the regular desktop setup with xorg is not touched
[16:11] <k1l> stratum: old news. its said that 16.04 will not use mir as default since a long time
[16:11] <stratum> ok
[16:12] <stratum> k1l, does this mean that ubuntu is warming up to wayland?
[16:12] <k1l> stratum: no
[16:12] <stratum> instead of reinventing its own wheel with mir, i mean
[16:12] <stratum> ok
[16:12] <k1l> stratum: wayland is in the same state not production ready as mir is.
[16:13] <stratum> 12 days now, right?
[16:14] <stratum> correction: 10 days. I just hope AMD will cough up AMD GPU-PRO/OpenCL-drivers, current fglrx will not work with xenial xserver version
[16:15] <k1l> stratum: amd dropped fglrx support for new xorg versions since the made a mainline kernel driver. (amd-gpu)
[16:15] <stratum> k1l, yes. but that driver does not do opencl
[16:16] <dontknow> ubuntu is not going to support fglrx
[16:17] <stratum> dontknow, amd are discontinuing/deprecating fglrx
[16:17] <k1l> dontknow: amd dropped the fglrx support for the new xorg version. since fglrx is closed source there is nothing ubuntu can do from 16.04 on.  amd did work on the kernel driver amd-gpu
[16:17] <stratum> but their new mainline driver does not do opencl, so compute will not work on xenial if you have amd hardware
[16:18] <dontknow> i think it is a good thing
[16:18] <dontknow> it is a good thing fglrx dropped
[16:18] <dontknow> stratum, i bet amd will find a solution for that
[16:19] <k1l> stratum: it doesn support opencl
[16:19] <stratum> dontknow, if they release "amd gpu-pro" then yes, maybe. catalyst/fglrx must be a mess
[16:19] <k1l> *does
[16:19] <stratum> orly?
[16:20] <stratum> i saw a blog post from AMD saying that it does not. "buy firepro or gtfo" :P
[16:20] <stratum> source, por favor
[16:25] <k1l> stratum: i see different messages. but with amd gpu-pro at least there is a driver running opencl
[16:26] <k1l> but since there is nothing ubuntu can do you better adress that to amd directly. since very new distribution release from now on will have that issue.
[16:27] <lionelmessi5102> Guys, I've just installed Ubuntu minimal and I want to install a GUI ONLY without any other softwares, any suggestions?
[16:27] <k1l> what gui?
[16:27] <lionelmessi5102> LXDE or XFCE
[16:28] <eelstrebor> i just added the PPA repository for letsencrypt but i can't seem to retrieve the package
[16:28] <k1l> then install the lxde or xfce package. if you install Lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop it will install all the standard apps and stuff.
[16:30] <lionelmessi5102> does XFCE package have a Display Manager and a Login Manager or I would need to install them sepertaly?
[16:31] <k1l> lionelmessi5102: make sure "lightdm" is installed
[16:31] <andi> Hi
[16:32] <dontknow> i heard there is a xubuntu-core. it installs minimal
[16:32] <andi> I do have an intel adapter and an Ati radeon adapter in my host. Unlikely I'd like to use the intel adapter for the xserver. I've already tried to do some configurations, but it's not possible to start X.
[16:33] <lionelmessi5102> I tried xubuntu-core not as light as they said
[16:34] <lionelmessi5102> I am trying to install ubuntu in a school which has computers with only 512mb so I try to minimize everthing
[16:35] <k1l> lionelmessi5102: then you will want to look at lubuntu
[16:37] <Skyrid3r> If one used iptables -A INPUT -j DROP, how do I re-gain access to my server.. it blocked me >_>
[16:37] <lionelmessi5102> I tried lxde-core, lightdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter, xorg, but it show a black screen with Started Display manager
[16:37] <fractal> oh no
[16:37] <fractal> :(
[16:37] <Skyrid3r> O noes, for whom? :p
[16:38] <fractal> well, i came in here for a question too, but it appears the channel is full of questions
[16:38] <fractal> and few answers...
[16:38] <fractal> :(
[16:39] <dontknow> lionelmessi5102, i don't think xubuntu-core vs. lighter xfce would effect the ram usage
[16:39] <andi> https://paste.ubuntu.com/15763019/ This looks strange to me. Why is the xserver segfaulting? Do I call the command wrong?
[16:41] <haskel> how do I run a command in background in a bash script?
[16:41] <alkisg> command &
[16:41] <Skyrid3r> And what does "iptables -A INPUT -j DROP" exactly do.. I see it being used in a lot of tutorials..
[16:42] <Skyrid3r> But it just kicked me out.
[16:42] <haskel> alkisg, could I create a bash script with multiple commands that run in background
[16:42] <haskel> cmd1 &
[16:42] <haskel> cmd2 &
[16:42] <haskel> alkisg, and it will work?
[16:42] <alkisg> Sure, those run in parallel, you can also run them in serial mode again in the background, e.g. ( cmd1; cmd2; ) &
[16:43] <haskel> alkisg, thx!
[16:43] <alkisg> np
[16:43] <Guy1524> Hey guys, typing this on my phone, my school must have blocked my internet, I can ping my Android phone's ipv4 when on the network but all access to anything outside the network is blocked, how do I make my computer look like a new device?
[16:44] <rud0lf> clean the casing
[16:44] <Guy1524> Me?
[16:48] <Skyrid3r> God I hate iptables already.
[16:48] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Why?
[16:48] <Skyrid3r> If one used iptables -A INPUT -j DROP <--
[16:48] <Skyrid3r> Wipes the entire iptable list?
[16:49] <vfw> Really?
[16:49] <vfw> -D ?
[16:49] <andi> http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1061178 This is the Xorg.0.log I get. It's not looking that bad, or not? So I'm wondering why it is not possible to startx?
[16:49] <Skyrid3r> ?
[16:49] <Skyrid3r> This wasn't mentioned anywhere on google / tutorials it would wipe the iptable list
[16:49] <vfw> Skyrid3r: You can't just replace -A with -D ?
[16:50] <Skyrid3r> According to a tutorial, I would have a specific port added and use that command.
[16:50] <Skyrid3r> I didn't expect a 'drop' that it would lock me out.
[16:50] <Skyrid3r> So ya.. locked out of my own server.
[16:51] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Yea, drop means drop all specified packets
[16:52] <ngl> This is a question that may be so simple that I just cannot find it via googling. I got a new work laptop. I'd been working with the Unity desktop for years. The new laptop, while it has 14.04, does not have Unity... so I installed it. But, my terminal didn't feel right so I did what I THOUGHT was install Gnome terminal... and now apparently I have Gnome desktop. This is the suck. Please help just want to see Unity/hear drums on startup
[16:52] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Trick is to be sure and sepcify
[16:52] <dgrant> Hello, I am new here and have one question.  I am a teacher and I would like to make a portal where students can enter an interface (maybe web hosted?) and select on dropdowns what VM specs they want (RHEL, Ubuntu, Windows, etc.) and then be provided a way to login to thier instance and use it as a development sandbox.  Where I can logn and review thier work.
[16:52] <dgrant> I have an Ubuntu Server that Id like to do this with
[16:53] <vfw> ngl: You have the freedom to install what ever DE you want.
[16:53] <ngl> Teacher dgrant... maybe might wanna checkout docker.
[16:53] <dgrant> Docker, ok
[16:53] <alkisg> andi: there doesn't appear to be an error in that log, how are you trying to launch X?
[16:53] <nacc> dgrant: do you specifically want VMs?
[16:53] <ngl> Yeah, but I can't get it to go back :\
[16:53] <dgrant> yes, VMs
[16:53] <nacc> dgrant: then docker is not what you want :)
[16:53] <dgrant> there could be up to 20 users running different specs
[16:54] <vfw> dgrant: You dont' want to just use something like google docs?
[16:54] <andi> alkisg: At the moment simply with startx.
[16:54] <TheMontyChrist> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[16:54] <TheMontyChrist> bad ppa
[16:54] <TheMontyChrist> anybody know what it's supposed to be?
[16:54] <alkisg> andi, try with xinit, I think it additionally starts an xterm
[16:54] <dgrant> not google docs because I want to see thier app actually run
[16:55] <nacc> dgrant: you might want to look at openstack-like solutions, i think; or maybe even maas?
[16:55] <Skyrid3r> vfw:  anyway to restore it?
[16:55] <AphelionZ> is there an ubuntu+python wizard in here? I'm having some struggles with the default python installs on 15.10
[16:55] <vfw> Skyrid3r: If you are not able to access the machine, I don't know.
[16:55] <Skyrid3r> Got console access.
[16:56] <rud0lf> TheMontyChrist: works fine for me
[16:56] <Skyrid3r> Emergency stuff.
[16:56] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Ok then, just delete the rule
[16:56] <nacc> AphelionZ: it's probably better to just describe your problem
[16:56] <Skyrid3r> What rule?.. iptables -L shows nothing
[16:57] <AphelionZ> when i pip install jupyter, it reports as having been installed but it doesnt exist in any of my *-packages folder, or anywhere on my filesystem from what `locate` and `find / -name` tell me. Additionally, I have no `jupyter` symlink
[16:58] <vfw> Skyrid3r: If you have flushed all rules, you will have to start over.  Did you create a script?
[16:58] <neyder_> hi there
[16:58] <neyder_> what is the channel for bug in 16.04
[16:58] <Skyrid3r> vwf: nope.
[16:58] <rud0lf> neyder_: #ubuntu+1 may be the one
[16:58] <vfw> Skyrid3r: If you have a script you can just run it.
[16:58] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Otherwise start over
[16:58] <andi> So xinit seems to run correctly. What's the difference between xinit and startx?
[16:58] <Skyrid3r> What would the cmd be to restore ssh access over default port.
[16:59] <vfw> Skyrid3r: You could look at history
[16:59] <vfw> Skyrid3r: If there are no rules blocking it, why would you need one to allow it?
[17:00] <Skyrid3r> I have no idea.. I am not that familiar with iptables..
[17:00] <vfw> Skyrid3r: (There must be something you are not telling us)
[17:00] <Skyrid3r> As soon I used the drop command, it blocked me out.
[17:00] <neyder_> thanks rud0lf
[17:00] <rud0lf> yw
[17:00] <vfw> Delete the rule.
[17:00] <vfw> Can you recreate the exact rule?
[17:00] <Skyrid3r> You say it like I know 'how' to.
[17:01] <andi> Skyrid3r: You can use iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[17:01] <eelstrebor> i thought that i had added the wrong repository for letsencrypt but the up-to-date repository was added to sources.list but synaptic doesn't see it in the repository list - i guess i should try a reboot?
[17:01] <Skyrid3r> and fyi, I used "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --sport 27005 --dport 27015 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT" - "iptables -A INPUT -j DROP"
[17:02] <Skyrid3r> As soon I added the second one, as I mentioned above, it locked me out.
[17:02] <Skyrid3r> And thanks andi .
[17:02] <nacc> eelstrebor: you never should need to reboot to see a PPA's contents
[17:02] <nacc> eelstrebor: what PPA and what version of Ubuntu?
[17:02] <Skyrid3r> Actually, I used "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 27005 -j ACCEPT" as first line, then drop as second.
[17:02] <andi> Skyrid3r: How would you know from which source port your ssh client will connect to your machine?
[17:03] <eelstrebor> i didn't think so but the repository still shows in sources.list but not in synaptic
[17:03] <Skyrid3r> andi: ?
[17:03] <vfw> Skyrid3r: iptables -D INPUT -p tcp --sport 27005
[17:03] <andi> So if you do not hit exactly port 27005 with your client this rule will not fit and the rule that comes next will drop your packages to the ssh server.
[17:03] <scalper> hey
[17:04] <scalper> maybe not fully related to ubuntu but maybe someone knows it, i burn a virtual dvd which is a img file, if i later mount it and make an iso of it, does it also store the size that the media has? or does it only rip the sectors which are being used for the data?
[17:04] <vfw> Skyrid3r: no, that is not the right one.
[17:04] <eelstrebor> Hr5o1Nk*
[17:04] <karl-arne> Hello. I have just installed Ubuntu and run this:
[17:04] <karl-arne> sudo iptables -L
[17:04] <karl-arne> [sudo] password for karl-arne:
[17:04] <karl-arne> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[17:04] <karl-arne> target     prot opt source               destination
[17:04] <karl-arne> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[17:04] <karl-arne> target     prot opt source               destination
[17:04]  * eelstrebor says that's not his irc password - sorry charlie
[17:05] <vfw> Skyrid3r: You would delete "iptables -A INPUT -j DROP" with "iptables -D INPUT -j DROP"
[17:06] <vfw> Skyrid3r: If you really used "iptables -A INPUT -j DROP", you would be dropping everything.
[17:06] <Skyrid3r> meh.. why would people give such info online..
[17:07] <rob0> vfw, that depends what rules precede that one.  Also, if it's a router, INPUT won't affect forwarding.
[17:07] <vfw> karl-arne: Why are you showing us your iptables rules, (or lack of)?
[17:07] <Skyrid3r> Do I need to run a cmd to save the iptables? --> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[17:07] <vfw> rob0: Yea, well, I don't know what he is doing really.
[17:07] <Skyrid3r> Seeing it still won't accept me, still locked out.
[17:08] <XB23> Evening all, hope someone can help me Ive got a 2TB hard disk, but my / is only showing 15GB
[17:08] <XB23> how do i get my / to the full 2TB?
[17:08] <XB23> this is my fdisk
[17:08] <XB23> /dev/sda1   *        4096    40962047    20478976   83  Linux
[17:08] <XB23> /dev/sda2        40962048    42008575      523264   82  Linux swap / Solari
[17:09] <rob0> Skyrid3r, commands you enter are immediately entered into the kernel.  Saving your rules only affects after the next reboot or "restart" using the /etc/init.d script.
[17:11] <Skyrid3r> Still locked out..
[17:11] <Skyrid3r> god -_-
[17:12] <vfw> Skyrid3r: I dont think God manages these types of things ;)
[17:12] <kaffien> I have an asus g73jw laptop.  Installed ubuntu 15.10.   Works great, except i keep getting this annoying pulse error that won't go away.  no pulseaudio daemon running or not running as a session daemon.  Sound works fine though as does video via youtube.   Any ideas?
[17:13] <vfw> Skyrid3r: I dont know what you have done, but maybe "iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT"
[17:13] <BluesKaj> kaffien, which audio chip?
[17:14] <kaffien> I honestly don't know
[17:14] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Are you sure you are really blocked?  Run nmap on it
[17:14] <kaffien> says EAX 5.0  HD on the top.
[17:14] <kaffien> perhaps the HD is the only thing not working and the analog is
[17:14] <Skyrid3r> nmap not installed :p
[17:14] <Skyrid3r> Network error: Connection timed out <-
[17:14] <Skyrid3r> Ya.. i'm locked out :p
[17:14] <BluesKaj> kaffien, run cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:15] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Run it from the client side
[17:15] <Skyrid3r> no idea what nmap is.
[17:15] <Skyrid3r> shows a lot of info
[17:15] <vfw> nmap -p 22 10.x.x.x
[17:16] <Skyrid3r> How a simple cmd can mess everything up
[17:18] <vfw> Easy
[17:18] <XB23> bloody hell. ive done it .. that was easier than i expected .. good old fdisk :)
[17:19] <scalper> maybe not fully related to ubuntu but maybe someone knows it, i burn a virtual dvd which is a img file, if i later mount it and make an iso of it, does it also store the size that the media has? or does it only rip the sectors which are being used for the data?
[17:19] <Skyrid3r> Meh, screw it..
[17:19] <Skyrid3r> Gonna reinstall...
[17:19] <teward> in an accidental screwup, trying to install `linux-generic-lts-xenial` on 14.04, my radeon drivers appear to be busted.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15764013/ shows dmesg output with Radeon errors, and `apt-get` upgrades to update packages and kernel show this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15764059/   any ideas on how to fix?
[17:19] <Skyrid3r> Need to disable the firefall to make backups.. iptables does not exist as an init.d script.
[17:19] <BluesKaj> kaffien, does the output say hda-intel?
[17:20]  * teward doesn't have a LiveUSB right now to do this
[17:23] <vfw> Skyrid3r: I suggest that you have some other issue rather than firewall.  Check and see. Use nmap
[17:23] <Skyrid3r> As I said, already ran the 'nmap' command, shows tons of info.
[17:23] <Skyrid3r> No idea how to use it.
[17:23] <Skyrid3r> Secondly, iptables IS the issue for sure..
[17:24] <mick27> folks, should I expect do-release-update to propose me 16.04 yet ?
[17:24] <ioria> teward, i had the same error installing kernel 4.4 on an old ati  rv350 with radeon opensource, but it hasn't been  fatal
[17:24] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Did you try nmap -p22 <server-ip-here> ????
[17:25] <Skyrid3r> Host is up (0.00010s latency).
[17:25] <vfw> Skyrid3r: Just look it the port you are using for ssh is open or filtered or not listening or what?
[17:26] <teward> ioria: it's causing issues with standby and return-from-standby
[17:26] <teward> ioria: so i'm 'reverting' to the lts-wily kernel
[17:26] <ioria> teward, i see...
[17:26] <teward> *and* causing other issues
[17:27] <kaffien> BluesKaj: HDA Intel MID  and then theres the HDA Nvidia which is likey for hdmi.
[17:27] <cookiese> Hey guys I'm trying to connect a scansnap ix500 to my computer and simple scan doesn't seem to be able to detect it. Any ideas?
[17:27] <vfw> Skyrid3r: If it says "22/tcp closed ssh" it means the ssh deamon (sshd) is not listening on that port.  If it says "22/tcp filtered ssh", it means that port 22 is blocked.  (I am assuming you are using port 22 for ssh. Right? Wrong?)
[17:30] <vfw> Skyrid3r: When someone says that a porty is open or closed, they mean that it is either blocked or not blocked. But, some confuse the issues of a port being blocked with a service not listening on that port, or that the service is just disabled.
[17:31] <cookiese> Anyone?
[17:32] <Skyrid3r> Port 22 is default, yes. 22/tcp open  ssh
[17:33] <vfw> Skyrid3r: So there are more than one reasons why one would not be able to establish a secure shell into a particular machine.  Could be trying on wrong port, or trying wong IP, wrong user-name etc. etc. etc.
[17:33] <vfw> Skyrid3r: So what error do you get when you try.
[17:33] <BluesKaj> kaffien,  perhaps reinstalling pulseaudio will solve your problem, but the reason you still have sound is that alsa doesn't need pulseaudio to work with hde-intel  audio
[17:34] <kaffien> soo  why install pulse at all then?
[17:35] <Skyrid3r> vfw: I find it odd that I got kicked out of my 2 shell tabs as soon I used the iptables drop command.
[17:35] <Skyrid3r> It happened to me last time as well, 2 years ago when I used the exact same command.
[17:35] <BluesKaj> kaffien, some users like to have the ability to run simultaneous sound sources which pulseaudio sound server sttings provides
[17:35] <kaffien> i see
[17:36] <Mishari> ah
[17:36] <Mishari> ah ah ah
[17:36] <Skyrider> It however, appears to work again..
[17:36] <Mishari> lol
[17:36] <Skyrider> I have NO idea why, but SSH has been resetted to my other server IP address.
[17:36] <vfw> Skyrider: Because it is dropping packets
[17:37] <Skyrider> No idea why the drop command would do that.
[17:37] <ricebean> How do I set up the web interface on Sympa?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> kaffien, I personally don't bother with pulseaudio. but that's a personal decision
[17:37] <Skyrider> Food first, thanks thus far. bbs!
[17:37] <Mishari> ricebean, say " Ibra kadabra "
[17:37] <ricebean> haha
[17:37] <ricebean> Ibra kadabra
[17:37] <vfw> Skyrider: I told you that you need to delete the rule you used to drop those packets.  If you can not do that, I don't know what we can do to help you.
[17:38] <vfw> Skyrider: Good idea..
[17:38] <Skyrider> Indeed you told me to delete the rule.
[17:38] <Skyrider> But you never told me how.
[17:38] <vfw> Skyrider: Yes, I did
[17:38] <kaffien> since this is just a laptop .... pulse can die in this instance.
[17:38] <Skyrider> Then I messed it.
[17:38] <Skyrider> **Missed
[17:38] <Skyrider> IRC web chat is so... crouwdy.. hard to read.
[17:38] <vfw> Skyrid3r: You would delete "iptables -A INPUT -j DROP" with "iptables -D INPUT -j DROP"
[17:38] <Mishari> is ubuntu 16 LTS ?
[17:39] <Skyrider> iptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?).
[17:39] <Skyrider> Weird
[17:39] <Rave1> Mishari,  yes
[17:39] <Mishari> aha then good.
[17:39] <kaffien> I thought 16 was still in dev.
[17:39] <vfw> Skyrider: It is saying that you did not issue that command.
[17:40] <vfw> Skyrider: Are you sure you are doing it on the computer you think you are doing it on?
[17:40] <rob0> Skyrider, a -D command must match exactly what's in the ruleset.  "iptables-save" shows it exactly.
[17:40] <vfw> Skyrider: Go to lunch.... ;)
[17:41] <rob0> So for example if there was something extra like "-s 0.0.0.0/0", your -D command would not find a rule to delete.
[17:42] <Mishari> rob0,  why to make a repositories in ubuntu or in linux in general ?
[17:43] <rob0> Mishari, ? what are you asking, and why me in particular?
[17:43] <Mishari> because you look hot in general.
[17:43] <Mishari> ;x
[17:43] <ricebean> I'm still searching for a mass mailing program that I can use to send newsletters. I'd like it to be a script or a program, if possible. it has to load email addresses and text from a text file, and send emails so that on the receiving end, the person will only see his/her email address.
[17:43] <rob0> ah, that I do
[17:43] <Mishari> lol.
[17:43] <Mishari> now, answer.. pleaze ;)
[17:44] <ricebean> I've already tried Sympa, but I'm inexperienced with databases like MySQL and that stuff.
[17:44] <rob0> Again, I don't quite get the question.
[17:44] <Mishari> okay, why making repositories in ubuntu, whar is the purpose of the repository ?
[17:45] <rob0> Generally in apt(8) terms, is not a repository a place where you can find precompiled software specific to your system?
[17:46] <rob0> Possibly you're wanting to read up on how APT and apt-get works.
[17:46] <Mishari> aha
[17:46] <Mishari> true.
[17:47] <rob0> A software repository can't be for just any GNU/Linux; it has to be specific to the distro and version.
[17:47] <Mishari> rob0,   yesterday I plugged  HDMI cable from TV to ubuntu, can't view the movie, only the desktop, where do you think the problem exist ?
[17:48] <rob0> no idea, I have never done that
[17:48] <Mishari> ok
[17:50] <Mishari> rob0,  do you like my questions ?
[17:51]  * rob0 peeks in a mirror ... I like looking hot.
[17:51] <vfw> Mishari: Wrong screen.  Just drag it over to the other one.
[17:51] <mchelen2> i found out that in 14.04  PWM fans will run at full RPM until the user runs the pwmconfig script. is this true in more recent  ubuntu releases as well?
[17:51] <Mishari> vfw,  dragging the application movie ?
[17:52] <vfw> Mishari: Yes
[17:52] <Mishari> vfw, have you tried that before ?
[17:52] <vfw> Mishari: Or tell the video manager to use the other output as default
[17:53] <Mishari> thanks vfw
[17:53] <Mishari> you were useful, in general.
[17:53] <vfw> Mishari: Sure.  Not actually from a laptop, but I have my mother-in-law set up with MythTV client in her room.  She has a desktop computer that has one port connected to monitor on her desk, the other, (the HDMI), plugged into the TV next to it.
[17:54] <teward> ioria: after fighting VMware WOrkstation to get its modules up and working, reverting the kernel solved the issues, and stopped fglrx-core triggering crash reports
[17:54] <ioria> teward, great ...
[17:54] <ioria> teward, maybe this can be a reference  https://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/
[17:54] <teward> ioria: but yeah, it didn't *seem* critical until return-from-suspend stopped working heh
[17:54] <vfw> Mishari: By defautl, when you have to monitors connected, you will have two screens that are seperate.  You can drag a window from one to the other,
[17:55] <teward> ioria: indeed, i'll take a look
[17:55] <ioria> teward, sometimes, that could be critical :þ
[17:56] <vfw> Mishari: The video display configuration will more-than-likely be using your laptop screen as default, but if you drag what ever window you are viewing on one screen off to one side or the other, you will see it on the other screen.
[17:57] <vfw> I said "to" but I meant "two"
[17:57] <vfw> "when you have two monitors..."
[17:58] <Mishari> ahaa
[17:58] <Mishari> I have only one.
[17:58] <teward> ioria: indeed.  i'm real concerned about seeing "!!! Unknown header type 7f" under the Radeon card in here, under `lspci -v`, though... that's not a good sign
[17:58] <Mishari> the laptop only.
[17:58] <vfw> Mishari: You can change it.
[17:58] <Mishari> how ?
[17:58] <vfw> Mishari: Settings > Display
[17:59] <vfw> Mishari: But what I said will sill apply.  Just drag the window of to one side or the other and see.
[17:59] <Mishari> I thank you so much vfw
[18:00] <Mishari> If we have another vfw we could make the world safe.
[18:01] <ubuntu> hey
[18:03] <vfw> Mishari: Absolutely!  :)
[18:05] <Sir> Hi Guys
[18:05] <Sir> ALguem ?
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> !br
[18:05] <Sir> I just want talk
[18:06] <vfw> In the case of my mother-in-law's computer, when she sits at the desk, she sees a normal desktop and can start and run any application she wants, (play a game or check email).  But if she wants to operate MythTV on the other screen, she has to remember to drag the mouse off the screen to the right and it will be on the TV screen and therefore the keyboard and mouse commands will apply to the MythTV interface.
[18:06] <vfw>  It's almost like having two computers.
[18:06] <Sir> I DO NOT TALK ALONE
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> Sir  caps
[18:06] <Dulcin> Hi, I have ubuntu installed as dual boot with windows 10, I'm wondering if it's possible to save my ubuntu session and switch to windows and back without having to re-open all  my windows again. Is that possible?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> Sir  this is the ubuntu support channel
[18:07] <vfw> Dulcin: No.  What you are talking about would be possible if you were running Ubuntu in a VM.
[18:07] <Dulcin> Damnit
[18:08] <BluesKaj> Sir, this not a chit chat room, it's ubuntu support
[18:08] <vfw> Dulcin: Oh, but you can tell your Ubunut desktop to come up with all those apps running on the next boot-up,.
[18:08] <nacc> Dulcin: the closest thing is saving your whole session on exist
[18:08] <nacc> Dulcin: *exit
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> Dulcin  however, look in dconf-editor: org.gnome.SessionManager
[18:08] <Bres> Hey, my WD My Book got bricked when I updated the firmware so I've ripped it out and plugged it in via SATA (the WD firmware is installed on the additional IC that I've also ripped off). It's working np but I want to set it up so I can use it as secondary storage for both Ubuntu and Windows (I've got Ubuntu on one SSD and Windows on another SSD). I've formatted one partition as ext4 (plan to format the other as NTFS) but the ext4 partition is read-only. Is there
[18:08] <Dulcin> vfw, nacc how do I do that?
[18:09] <vfw> Dulcin: what DE do you use?
[18:09] <Dulcin> vfw, I'm using gnome shell
[18:09] <Sir> Hi
[18:09] <vfw> Dulcin: Someone else will tell you, (I use xfce),.
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> Dulcin  look in dconf-editor: org.gnome.SessionManager
[18:10] <Sir> Dulcin : You need a help ?
[18:10] <Dulcin> MonkeyDust, Ok
[18:10] <Sir> I can help you
[18:10] <Dulcin> Sir, I wanna come as close as possible to saving my session on exit
[18:10] <Sir> what is the problem?
[18:10] <nacc> Dulcin: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/13725/how-to-save-a-gnome-3-session
[18:10] <nacc> Dulcin: something like what is suggested there, or as MonkeyDust said
[18:11] <Sir> Dulcin : This is easy hahahaha
[18:11] <Dulcin> MonkeyDust,  I dont see SessionManager in there
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> Dulcin  click org > gnome
[18:12] <Dulcin> MonkeyDust, Yes I'm there
[18:12] <vfw> Dulcin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78207/save-unity-desktop-session
[18:12] <Sir> Dulcin : go in the head and click server , and when the flaps open click off , save automatically , kisses dulcin
[18:13] <nacc> Sir: please stop.
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Sir  drop the 'hahaha' and the 'kisses'
[18:13] <teward> Sir: unless you have anything useful to add in terms of support, please stop, and take your random chitchat elsewhere - this isn't a random chat channel.
[18:13] <Sir> Dulcin : I could explain the problem in detail ?
[18:15] <Dulcin> MonkeyDust, I'm a bit at a loss here, I'm inside org>gnome but I dont see SessionManager there
[18:16] <nacc> Dulcin: MonkeyDust: iirc, it's org.gnome.gnome-sessions
[18:16] <nacc> err, gnome-session
[18:16] <steve> how long does it take after an LTS release before new AMIs are available for EC2?
[18:16] <Sir> MonkeyDust : hehehehehe goood bye
[18:16] <Dulcin> nacc, Ahh yes I found it
[18:17] <l3dx> my ipv6 connection only stays up for some minutes, what can be wrong? after booting I started a ping6 against google, and after some time it just started to fail
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> Dulcin  click org > gnome > gnome-session ... if you don't find it there, then i don't know
[18:18] <Dulcin> MonkeyDust, I found it
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> great
[18:19] <trijntje> ubuntu 14.04 doesn't scale up the CPU frequency even under heavy load, which means performance is very sluggish. What could be the cause of this?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  that's a very general question, be more specific
[18:22] <trijntje> MonkeyDust: The cpu frequency sits at around 600MHz while it should be 2700, but the fan and cpu temperature stay low. As far as I know this happened suddenly
[18:24] <BluesKaj> trijntje, install cpufreq-utils, that'll give you more control over the processer speed etc
[18:26] <l3g10n> ugurandsam
[18:27] <tmkt> any idea when changelogs will be back up?
[18:28] <MagePsycho> Hi guys
[18:28] <MagePsycho> I want to increase the size of var
[18:28] <MagePsycho> http://d.pr/i/vRVl/2bDRiypL
[18:28] <tme5> trijntje, on my Arch box i have the opposite problem :P always overheating!
[18:28] <trijntje> BluesKaj: setting the governor to 'performance' at least boosts the frequency to 2000MHz, but it should go well into the 3GHz. CPU temperatures stay low at 70 degrees (85+ is high)
[18:29] <MagePsycho> how to increase the size of partiion
[18:29] <MagePsycho> http://d.pr/i/vRVl/2bDRiypL
[18:29] <tme5> trijntje, what make is your CPU?
[18:29] <trijntje> tme5: i7-4800MQ
[18:29] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: pastebin sudo parted -l
[18:30] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:30] <BluesKaj> trijntje, seems then the app is misreading the cpu speeds
[18:30] <tme5> ok. intel cpus use the intel-pstate driver which does power management differently
[18:31] <trijntje> BluesKaj: which app? cpufreq-info and cat /proc/cpuinfo show the same values
[18:31] <Bashing-om> MagePsycho: That /var is huge ! What is going on ? For reference mine : " /dev/sda8       4.7G  2.3G  2.2G  52% /var " .
[18:32] <MagePsycho> EriC^^: did you check: http://d.pr/i/vRVl/2bDRiypL , i want to increase the size of /var one
[18:32] <BluesKaj> ok trijntje , i meant freq-utils , but something else is amiss then
[18:32] <vfw> Bashing-om: inodes?
[18:32] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: yup
[18:32] <MagePsycho> may be from /dev/sdb1
[18:32] <tme5> trijntje, if you're set to performance, i don't think there's much you can do outside the kernel
[18:32] <MagePsycho> how to do that
[18:32] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: pastebin sudo parted -l to get an idea about how the disk is arranged
[18:33] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: oh
[18:33] <trijntje> tme5: well, something is wrong, because it used to go all the way up to 3.5GHz before today. Maybe something wrong with the cooling?
[18:33] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: you can boot a live session and use gparted
[18:33] <tme5> oh that's odd
[18:34] <\9> MagePsycho: be sure to backup anything important before messing with partitions. partition editors are weapons of mass destruction
[18:34] <mchelen2> i found out that in 14.04  PWM fans will run at full RPM until the user runs the pwmconfig script. is that true for more recent  ubuntu releases as well?
[18:34] <MagePsycho> http://d.pr/i/1c6xU/23ZPQBsb
[18:34] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: you'll have more space though in sda maybe you can add that to /home
[18:34] <trijntje> tme5: yeah, I'm starting to think its a production error or something, I had the same issue with another laptop of the same model, but I cant find any reports online
[18:34] <MagePsycho> EriC^^: http://d.pr/i/1c6xU/23ZPQBsb
[18:35] <tme5> what is your quoted max freq?
[18:35] <trijntje> tme5: hardware limits: 800 MHz - 3.70 GHz
[18:36] <tme5> and is the load graphics rendering?
[18:36] <trijntje> tme5: no, CPU based
[18:36] <Mishari> Cooleh and bettehhh
[18:37] <tme5> ok. i got nothing i'm afraid
[18:37] <Carl_> Hello
[18:37] <Mishari> The only secret in computing life is " programming "
[18:37] <Mishari> guys really help me in this.
[18:38] <huplas> HI
[18:38] <Mishari> how the japanese programmers made emulators for Nintendo in the 1980's while there wasn't a GUI yet ?
[18:38] <trijntje> tme5: no problem, maybe its a hardware problem
[18:38] <MagePsycho> EriC^^: is there you can help me with
[18:38] <nacc> !offtopick | Mishari
[18:38] <nacc> !offtopic | Mishari
[18:38] <Bres> Will try rewriting my last question: 3 HDD's = 2 SSD's + 1 TB HDD; Ubuntu installed on SSD 1, Windows on SSD 2. Have partitioned 1 TB HDD with two partitions; 1 as NTFS (secondary storage for Windows); the other as ext4 (secondary storage for Ubuntu). The ext4 partition is mounting as read-only though. I can read-write to the NTFS partition fine from Ubuntu, but it isn't the partition I want to use with Ubuntu. Any suggestions why the ext4 is mounting read-only?
[18:38] <Mishari> okay nacc
[18:40] <Bashing-om> Bres: Mounting the secondary file system from fstab ?
[18:40] <huplas> off topic question: How would a native english speaking person write down the telephone busy signal? I mean the phonetical imitation like: cow --> moo, Cat --> miaow ,etc.
[18:40] <huplas> "doood, doood"?
[18:40] <tme5> trijntje, cpupower frequency-info gives ..?
[18:40] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: you could resize /dev/sdb1 to make a larger /var there, and as for /var on sda8, you could delete it and delete the linux swap and /tmp in the extended partition and resize home to get that space and recreate the swap and /tmp, or just use the 10gb of var for something else
[18:40] <recon_dsk> hi, trying to setup SSH login with RSA keys, followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html , but the key will not work, seems to fail with the error debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 279, sign_and_send_pubkey: signing failed: agent refused operation , I'm assuming something is set wrong in my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file(http://pastebin.com/FE2buV2v). anyone got any suggestions whats wrong?
[18:40] <EriC^^> my 2cents
[18:40] <gleaker> how can i find out what my sound card is under /dev..... would it be /dev/dsp0? what command will bring that up?
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !ot | huplas
[18:41] <Bres> Will try that Bashing-om, ty
[18:41] <Bashing-om> !fstab | Bres
[18:42] <recon_dsk> gleaker: lshw give all you hardware info
[18:42] <gleaker> kk
[18:42] <Bres> ubotto: thanks
[18:43] <MagePsycho> EriC^^: that is out of my head :(, can you help me with command to find which folder is taking more space? under /var
[18:43] <tester> hi
[18:43] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: du -sh /var | sort -h
[18:43] <trijntje> tme5: http://pastebin.com/P9bq34EB Shouldnt it have 'yes' for boost state?
[18:44] <EriC^^> MagePsycho: du -h /var | sort -h
[18:44] <nacc> MagePsycho: du -h --max-depth=1 /var
[18:44] <nacc> MagePsycho: you'll need to be root most likely, as well (or sudo)
[18:44] <gleaker> thanx very much for the info.... maybe i should explain what i am trying to do.......
[18:45] <tme5> trijntje, i don't know, boost is it's own feature, not just performance scaling
[18:45] <gleaker> i cannot get my sound card to work... so in the quake3 config file you can load the card..... an example would be seta snddevice /dev/dsp
[18:46] <trijntje> tme5: ok, thats probably nothing then. Its just weird how all cpu's are running at 100%, but the frequency stays low, as does the temperature
[18:46] <Jordan_U> gleaker: That's because quake expects OSS, not alsa.
[18:46] <DirtyCajun> ok this is blowing my mind. how is sort finding /movies2 is before /movies but /tv is before /tv2 http://pastebin.com/raw/MBmMBeha
[18:46] <gleaker> im drying to find out the device name for my card
[18:46] <lip> http://adfoc.us/2542958181463
[18:46] <MagePsycho> EriC^^: nacc thanks for the command
[18:46] <Jordan_U> gleaker: padsp quake
[18:47] <gleaker> type that in the terminal?
[18:47] <tme5> yeah. not sure really
[18:47] <MagePsycho> EriC^^: nacc  can i safely delete the /var/log & /var/cache files
[18:47] <MagePsycho> ?
[18:47] <Jordan_U> gleaker: Yes, replacing "quake" with whatever the appropriate command to launch quake is.
[18:47] <recon_dsk> damn it, security settings never just work!!!
[18:47] <gleaker> ok let me try that
[18:48] <lip> http://adfoc.us/2542958181463
[18:48] <lip> http://adfoc.us/2542958181463
[18:49] <recon_dsk> guess it's just keep turning on settings until it works
[18:49] <lip> http://adfoc.us/2542958181463
[18:49] <lip> http://adfoc.us/2542958181463
[18:49] <MagePsycho> can i safely delete contents of : /var/cache/yum
[18:49] <nacc> MagePsycho: why do you have that on ubuntu?
[18:50] <MagePsycho> centos
[18:50] <nacc> MagePsycho: i think you should ask the centos folks if that's safe to delete, then
[18:51] <kwah> hi all
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> MagePsycho  what's the outpit of   cat /etc/issue
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> output*
[18:51] <MagePsycho> \S
[18:51] <MagePsycho> Kernel \r on an \m
[18:52] <kwah> anyone facing unity session issues similar to bug 1567591 ???
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> kwah  #ubuntu+1
[18:52] <nacc> kwah: you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:52] <dax> (assuming you're also on xenial)
[18:52] <kwah> thanks, will do
[18:52] <nacc> dax: ack :)
[18:53] <brainwash> !16.04
[18:55] <gleaker> still didnt work ... i tried ./quake3 padsp from the terminal then tried it in the config file.... no joy
[18:55] <l3dx> my ipv6 connection only stays up for some minutes, what can be wrong? after booting I started a ping6 against google, and after some time it just started to fail
[18:56] <Capprentice> How do I remove all GUI as I intend to use the installation for Web Server.
[18:57] <Jordan_U> gleaker: "padsp ./quake3" , the "padsp" comes first.
[18:57] <Mathisen> Capprentice, using 15.10 ?
[18:58] <gleaker> still no joy
[18:59] <Mathisen> Capprentice, anyway just install the windowmanager in question that you are using
[18:59] <Jordan_U> gleaker: What is the exact command you ran?
[18:59] <Mathisen> uninstall *
[18:59] <gleaker> how u wrote it out above
[19:00] <Bashing-om> !minimal | Capprentice Best practice is to build up rather than tear down
[19:00] <Jordan_U> gleaker: And what happens when you dk that and quake tries to play sound?
[19:00] <gleaker> padsp ./quake3
[19:00] <gleaker> the game loads and will play. just no sound
[19:01] <gleaker> what is dk?
[19:01] <mchelen2> in 14.04  PWM fans will be at full RPM until the user runs the pwmconfig script. is that true for more recent ubuntu releases as well?
[19:01] <tarjo> hello everyone. Anyone of cloning OSX font rendering in Ubuntu (native no infinality/bohoomil)? Currently playing with fonts.conf and .Xresources
[19:02] <Jordan_U> gleaker: Have you changed the settings for where it should look for the OSS device?
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> tarjo  what brings you here
[19:03] <gleaker> yes in the config file i entered seta snddevice /dev/padsp
[19:03] <tarjo> hello MonkeyDust, collaboration believing
[19:03] <Jordan_U> mchelen2: That's not true for the vast majority of hardware for Ubuntu 14.04, so you'll need to give more information about what hardware you have (or just test a newer release yourself via liveUSB).
[19:04] <Jordan_U> gleaker: I never said to do that. It should be kept at its default, /dev/dsp.
[19:05] <gleaker> kk changing
[19:05] <recon_dsk> hi, trying to setup SSH login with RSA keys, followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html , but the key will not work, seems to fail with the error debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 279, sign_and_send_pubkey: signing failed: agent refused operation , I'm assuming something is set wrong in my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file(http://pastebin.com/FE2buV2v). anyone got any suggestions whats wrong?
[19:05] <ioria> teward, googling the issue seems related to outdated bios  ... really idk
[19:06] <MagePsycho> guys bash vs zsh which shell you use?
[19:06] <Jordan_U> gleaker: If you don't understand instructions given to you, it's much better to ask for clarification rather than guessing at what the instructions meant.
[19:06] <mchelen2> Jordan_U: hmm ok, maybe it's just my hardware, or something got messed up during install. i have things working now with pwmconfig so i'm not sure what went wrong
[19:09] <gleaker> srry, thought i did... ok i have /dev/dsp set in config file and launched via padsp ./quake3? yes
[19:11] <Jordan_U> gleaker: Correct.
[19:11] <developer> hi
[19:12] <gleaker> ok one minute
[19:13] <developer> guys how to install tor browser linux
[19:14] <gleaker> no go.... i have another question about that..... shouldnt i have a "dsp" in the directory /dev?
[19:14] <developer> ok
[19:16] <developer> help me
[19:16] <trijntje> developer: just download it from their website
[19:16] <developer> -.- thanks bro
[19:18] <trijntje> developer: no problem sis ;)
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> developer  extract the tar file, then click the 'start tor browser' icon
[19:19] <reisio> and then breathe in the onion smell
[19:19] <nauticalnexus> lol
[19:19] <Jordan_U> gleaker: No, because /dev/dsp is a deprecated interface, which padsp emulates.
[19:21] <mutante> manpages.ubuntu.com - unable to connect
[19:22] <Jordan_U> gleaker: Ensure that quake3 is at its defaults, it may be another change you made which ia preventing this from working.
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> mutante  yes, here too
[19:22] <supnow> I'm looking to upgrade all the computers in the office here. Is the 16 beta stable enough to install for basic web use or what would you all recommend?
[19:23] <reisio> supnow: should be fine
[19:23] <gleaker> kk
[19:23] <reisio> supnow: moreover, when the final is released, you can update to that
[19:23] <mutante> MonkeyDust: thanks, is there a better place to report ?
[19:23] <supnow> I didn't see the quake issue but play it myself, what was the issue
[19:23] <v2528> well quick question guys, fglrx-updates drivers use 15.7 or 15.9?
[19:24] <v2528> is it normal to have better performance under radeon? because it seems so when i run Flightgear, i'm talking double digits
[19:24] <supnow> @reisio, thank you. They are all stuck on version 12 and unable to get updates or upgrade, so if I wipe them out and do a clean install I just want to make sure it's stable enough for simple work till the final is released which it should roll into
[19:24] <v2528> from 27 fps to 11  in fgrlx :(
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> mutante  report what?
[19:24] <mutante> MonkeyDust: the site being down
[19:24] <v2528> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous/detail?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064&rev=15.9
[19:25] <v2528> here's a reference
[19:25] <developer> guys how can i find hidden wiki adress
[19:25] <reisio> supnow: there's an argument to be made that, including all the patches made to all the software since the preceding versions, it will be stabler
[19:25] <Jordan_U> supnow: gleaker has no sound when playing doom3.
[19:25] <mutante> MonkeyDust: i'll open a ticket on launchpad
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> mutante  i guess the site is being updated, due to the upcoming xenial release
[19:25] <mutante> MonkeyDust: aha, *nod*
[19:26] <recon_dsk> nearly at the stage of reloading the OS onto this VPS so I can start on a clean system and try setup SSH rsa login again.
[19:26] <gleaker> ok not working im gonna try some more google
[19:26] <gleaker> thnx for help
[19:26] <Smilex> When on a LiveCD. If I copy into /home, can I find those files easily back on the USB drive?
[19:26] <v2528> well?
[19:26] <supnow> @gleaker I had a no sound issue years ago when they were building quake live. I know it moved to steam but maybe they still have the same forums. I found the fix in there for the no sound.
[19:29] <Bashing-om> Smilex: Rephrase . Anything done onto the live-CD- will not persist a reboot .
[19:30] <Smilex> Bashing-om: I'm trying to use a LiveCD to recover files from a HDD on a laptop that doesn't boot. I've got access to the HDD, but I don't know how to save them on the USB with the Ubuntu LiveCD
[19:30] <CacheMoney> ok, this is gonna sound really stupid
[19:30] <CacheMoney> but how would I symbolically link a folder within a folder to its parent folder
[19:31] <CacheMoney> /this/is/test
[19:31] <v2528> i assume  you all have Nvidia GPU's haha
[19:31] <Ben64> CacheMoney: ln -s folder ../
[19:31] <nacc> CacheMoney: ln -s /path/to/target ?
[19:31] <CacheMoney> ahh
[19:31] <CacheMoney> I had the syntax backwards
[19:31] <Bashing-om> Smilex: Easiest way is to open 2 instances of the file manager from the liveCD, drag and drop from the install to the USB drive .
[19:32] <recon_dsk> anyone able to tell me if this guide is accurate? https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[19:32] <Smilex> Bashing-om: we can't find the LiveCD on lubuntu's filemanager
[19:32] <nauticalnexus> v2528: I have AMD. What's up?
[19:32] <Smilex> we see it under Go/Devices, but clicking that errors
[19:32] <Ben64> recon_dsk: i'd hope so, it's on ubuntu.com. do you have a specific question?
[19:32] <mick27> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release <— this is down, anyone knows why ?
[19:32] <v2528> nauticalnexus: man, i have better performance in radeon
[19:32] <Smilex> do I need to install ntfs-3g?
[19:32] <v2528> when i install flgrx-updates i lose double digits in fps
[19:33] <nauticalnexus> v2528: what gpu? I have a 390. I don't think I have radeon.
[19:33] <v2528> wtf
[19:33] <v2528> oh no
[19:33] <Bashing-om> Smilex: Boot the CD . open 'files' ( depending on the release ) .
[19:33] <v2528> i have legacy
[19:33] <nauticalnexus> I use fglrx
[19:33] <v2528> HD 6770
[19:33] <nauticalnexus> oh wow
[19:33] <v2528> i know i know
[19:33] <recon_dsk> hi, trying to setup SSH login with RSA keys, followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html , but the key will not work, seems to fail with the error debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 279, sign_and_send_pubkey: signing failed: agent refused operation , I'm assuming something is set wrong in my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file(http://pastebin.com/FE2buV2v). anyone got any suggestions whats wrong?
[19:33] <v2528> but i was able to attain at least 60 in some instances using radeon
[19:33] <v2528> which is why i'm surprised when i install fglrx
[19:33] <nauticalnexus> I've no issues with fglrx so I can't exactly help
[19:33] <recon_dsk> Ben64: well, not working for me unfortunately.
[19:34] <v2528> alright, no problemo
[19:34] <supnow> what's wrong
[19:34] <recon_dsk> and cant find anything relateing to "agent refused operation" online
[19:35] <v2528> nauticalnexus: it was a dumb move to abandon fglrx for future Ubuntu's
[19:35] <Smilex> Bashing-om: Yes. We managed to get into the HDD that way. Just can't seem to find the USB
[19:35] <TheMarius> i just dumped x.org's video driver for fglrx
[19:35] <nauticalnexus> v2528: I agree, but this isn't a place to talk about that. if you'd like to discuss that stuff, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:35] <recon_dsk> also, I reloaded the default /etc/ssh/sshd_config file, no change
[19:35] <TheMarius> it made my computer slow
[19:36] <v2528> also why the hell did they AMD limit fglrx to kernel 3.19!!
[19:36] <Ben64> recon_dsk: i think that might be a client problem
[19:36] <v2528> alrighty then
[19:36] <v2528> thanks for tolerating :P
[19:36] <nauticalnexus> this is a support channel so
[19:36] <v2528> roger that
[19:36] <Bashing-om> Smilex: In the file manager, left pane - there is so icon for the USB drive ?
[19:36] <TheMarius> what ... fglrx will still run on 16.04 ?
[19:36] <v2528> let the people needing urging fixes go agead
[19:37] <TheMarius> ill prob install 16.04 (just installed 15.10) and leave it for the rest of this desktops life
[19:37] <v2528> TheMarius: depends, i dunno the specific
[19:37] <Smilex> Bashing-om: No. Not for the HDD either. It only shows the most common locations (/home /documents /pictures)
[19:37] <v2528> but above 3.19 kernel is a nono
[19:37] <v2528> as AMD states the FGLRX is limited to 3.19
[19:38] <TheMarius> v2528: ouch.. thats essential for me.. x.org's "open source" driver ran horribly on my radeon 5870 desktop
[19:38] <nauticalnexus> idk I'm on 14.04 on my desktop
[19:38] <nauticalnexus> I had issues with the x.org driver so I went to fglrx
[19:38] <v2528> nauticalnexus: me to, 14.04
[19:38] <nauticalnexus> they say the x.org driver is much better with the 4.4 kernel in 16.04
[19:38] <v2528> radeon ran flawelesly aside from the need to use xrandr to alight two displays
[19:38] <ebernhardson> a repository i'm trying to add (elasticsearch) provides many different versions of the package. I want a specific version and not the latest, and after checking some docs it looks like pinning is the way to accomplish this.  I added a def using `Pin: version 2.2.2' and priority 1001, but now `apt-cache policy elasticsearch` it showing all possible versions as having the 1001 priority, not just the version i specified. What might be wrong?
[19:39] <TheMarius> well its def not better in 15.10 .... my gpu fan were working like crazy and computer lagged and were slow
[19:39] <TheMarius> now though with flgxr it runs like a champ
[19:39] <v2528> nauticalnexus: the radeon driver in the kernel 4.5 is superior to that FGLRX in Ubuntu
[19:39] <rubsud24> recon_dsk: check out https://help.github.com/articles/error-agent-admitted-failure-to-sign/
[19:39] <v2528> i tested it with the Flightgear sim, which is as you know... demanding, it's a sim
[19:39] <Ben64> ebernhardson: install the version you want via synaptic, then lock version with synaptic. keep in mind 3rd party repositories aren't supported here
[19:39] <nauticalnexus> I just had some performance issues in games I shouldn't have performance issues in(come on, Absolute Drift dropping to 20fps? Really?), and after going to fglrx it stayed at 60
[19:39] <Bashing-om> Smilex: Is that USB drive bootable ?
[19:40] <v2528> alright i'll go, nauticalnexus don't forget to give kernel 4,.5  go
[19:40] <TheMarius> sigh.. why are these issues allways coming up on linux... i just got a very satisfying setup and then 16.04 comes and might ruin it
[19:40] <v2528> you will be surprised with radeon]
[19:40] <v2528> see ya around
[19:40] <ebernhardson> Ben64: synaptic will be a no-go, this needs to install via puppet in a VM.  thanks though i'll poke around so more
[19:40] <nauticalnexus> v2528 see ya
[19:41] <Ntemis> hi
[19:41] <recon_dsk> rubsud24: thank you, running ssh-add on the client fixed it. I had tried that already but did it on the server.
[19:42] <Smilex> Bashing-om: yes we are in the LiveCD environment
[19:42] <supnow> probably a dumb question, but on the download links for 16.04 there's is an amd64 link and an i386... is that 64 bit vs 32 bit or are they both 64bit and one for amd and other for intel?
[19:43] <mutante> supnow: it's 32bit vs. 64bit
[19:43] <guntbert> supnow: the names (amd) are just a remnant from olden times
[19:43] <rubsud24> recon_dsk: gotcha good to hear, yeah both sides need to have the other's keys in order to communicate
[19:44] <Ben64> guntbert: not that old :S
[19:44] <supnow> ok I thoughtso, thank you both
[19:45] <Bashing-om> Smilex: And what do you see when you plug in the USB drive ?
[19:54] <chindy> l
[19:54] <Smilex> Bashing-om: sorry I decided to take the time to explain the complex way over the phone. Issue is it's mounted read only
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Smilex: Unexpected to mount read only . How are you mounting the USB drive ? and what is the file system on that drive ?
[19:57] <Smilex> Bashing-om: Well it's the USB drive that's booted from
[19:58] <pilne> well screw me and call me sally.... i used apt-get autoremove to cleanup some old kernel stuff... but it looks like it didn't work completely
[19:58] <Guest98128> Hello i have installed vsftpd. The port 21 is now listening and the vsftpd process is running. If i try service vsftpd status it returns that the service is not runing
[19:58] <Bashing-om> Smilex: Then in that case you will want to re-install with persistence enabled .
[19:59] <Smilex> Bashing-om: we found a way around it by using a phone as a storage device
[19:59] <Smilex> thanks!
[19:59] <pilne> not sure if i should really care, gonna do a clean install for 16.04 here soon
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Smilex: K .. for future reference: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 .
[20:00] <kgirthofer> hey all - having an issue with my super key - it's suddently not recognized at all
[20:00] <andi> Hi
[20:00] <kgirthofer> neither side - left or right
[20:01] <andi> Is there a way to get the temperature of a radeon card without running a xserver?
[20:05] <benniblanco> Hey everyone, is there a painless way to deal with all my ppa's being disabled upon upgrading my distro?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> benniblanco, remove them from /etc/apt/sourcelist.d withreeot permissions
[20:07] <BluesKaj> benniblanco, correction: remove them from /etc/apt/sources/list.d with root permissions
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> benniblanco  use ppa's at your own risk
[20:10] <Bernzel> Hello. I have some issues with my updates, or have had it for like 2 months. So I have 600mb of updates to install. But when I try to install them I get this: http://pastebin.com/Rge4Dryz
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> Bernzel  and    sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:12] <Bernzel> MonkeyDust, I still get that message
[20:12] <Bernzel> I fear something worse is causing it
[20:13] <Bernzel> it says I need to free the same amount of disk space as it did before I autoremoved
[20:16] <reveredge> hey
[20:16] <reveredge> anyone using dosage of /dev/random ?
[20:40] <bjpenn> if i have a ppa which has package php7.0, and ubuntu main repos has the same package, how do i make apt-get download from ubuntu main repo
[20:47] <Bronze> Hi, Does the Ubuntu Desktop use the virtuoso server in anyway? or can I apt-get purge it without breaking antything
[21:00] <DrGrov> Hi, quick question. Running 14.04 64-bit. Can I safely guard my current session from a power outage if I hibernate? Or is there any possible way to keep the session intact even if there is a power outage? UPS yes but on the software side I am mostly wondering.
[21:00] <bjpenn> anyone know how i can install php7.0.4, the ondrej ppa only has 7.0.5
[21:03] <Bashing-om> !info php wily
[21:05] <nacc> bjpenn: are you referring to xenial?
[21:08] <teward> nacc: he's referring to a PPA
[21:09] <nacc> teward: he mentioned wanting to install from the main repos, as well -- just was clarifying
[21:09] <teward> nacc: ah
[21:09] <teward> nacc: well, [2016-04-11 17:00:53] <bjpenn> anyone know how i can install php7.0.4, the ondrej ppa only has 7.0.5
[21:10] <nacc> teward: right, 3 lines above it, in my logs :) ("if i have a ppa which has package php7.0, and ubuntu main repos has the same package, how do i make apt-get download from ubuntu main repo")
[21:11] <teward> nacc: yes, I see it as well, but the second part of my answer that phone lag is causing is that I believe there's a ton of fixes and potentially a security fix or two in 7.0.5 that makes it not recommended to use an earlier version
[21:11]  * teward hates having crap internet connections
[21:11] <nacc> teward: heh :)
[21:12] <nacc> teward: afaict (and ondrej and i have discussed) 7.0.5 doesn't have soo many fixes (and we've backported the 3 we've seein 7.0.4 already)
[21:12] <teward> nacc: *cough* -devel perhaps for discussing the package directly in a non-support context
[21:12] <nacc> teward: ack :)
[21:15] <bjpenn> nacc: sorry was afk but im referring to trusty
[21:15] <bjpenn> :p
[21:15] <bjpenn> ubuntu 14.05
[21:15] <bjpenn> 14.04
[21:15] <teward> bjpenn: 14.04 *
[21:15] <teward> bjpenn: AFAIK there's no php7.0 in the Trusty repos
[21:15] <bjpenn> it doesnt have any php7 packages i dont believe
[21:15] <bjpenn> yeah
[21:15] <teward> unless nacc got it in and said nothing
[21:15] <teward> bjpenn: in which case you're out of luck
[21:15] <teward> bjpenn: is there a *reason* you need 7.0.4?
[21:15] <bjpenn> teward: ok :(
[21:16] <bjpenn> hmm well im not a dev, so i dont know if the code base will work with 7.0.5
[21:16] <flamesage> I'm trying to download v4.6-rc3-wily and it doesn't appear to have hit the mainline ppa?  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-rc3-wily/
[21:16] <teward> bjpenn: between 7.0.4 and 7.0.5 there's not really any breaking changes, as far as I can tell in the changelogs
[21:16] <bjpenn> teward: if it works with 7.0.4, it *should* work with 7.0.5 right?
[21:16] <teward> bjpenn: yes, it should.
[21:16] <bjpenn> teward: and thats safe to say for any "minor" release versions?
[21:17] <teward> bjpenn: Making that determination is impossible without me knowing the future - there could be a massive security issue that triggers 7.1.0 that causes reverse-incompatibility issues, though I doubt that'll happen
[21:17] <teward> bjpenn: but from 7.0.4 to 7.0.5 there's little chance, I believe, your 7.0.4-working codebase would explode under 7.0.5
[21:17] <bjpenn> teward: thanks! :)
[21:18] <nacc> teward: bjpenn: ack, 7.0 in trusty is not supported here (it's from ondrej's ppa and all support is from ondrej :)
[21:18] <teward> nacc: yep!
[21:18] <teward> bjpenn: as nacc said, the PPAs don't get our support here :P
[21:23] <alyyy> I'm reformatting my hd to put my home folder on a different partition. does the OS need to be a primary partition? does it matter if the home partition is primary or logical?
[21:23] <k1l> alyyy: no. doesnt matter
[21:25] <alyyy> k1l: cool cool, thank you.
[21:27] <brainwash> flamesage: it failed to build. maybe ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[21:50] <GoKEV> Is there a channel specifically for Autopilot OpenStack issues?
[21:51] <GoKEV> My cloud nodes deploy then shut down without giving me a chance to provision them
[21:52] <Rodrigo> hi
[21:53] <Rodrigo> someone could help me with a network problem?
[21:54] <Bashing-om> !details | Rodrigo
[21:55] <Rodrigo> I have a local network that is a subnet of a larger network. I want to assign an IP to the PC on the local network, but that comes from the largest subnetwork, how should I do?
[21:59] <Rodrigo> something like [pc1 (ex.: assign 172.30.10.5 rather than 192.168.1.10) | pc2 | pc3 -----local router (192.168.1.1)] -------outer router (172.30.10.1),
[22:00] <Rodrigo> something like [pc1 (ex.: assign 172.30.10.5 rather than 192.168.1.10) | pc2 | pc3 -----local router (192.168.1.1)] ------ WAN PORT -------outer router (172.30.10.1),
[22:02] <teward> Rodrigo: if pc1 doesn't lie on the other router's network (it looks like it wouldn't because it goes via the WAN port), then you'll possibly have some headaches with routing
[22:02] <teward> Rodrigo: 'cause that local router will eat the ARP packets destined to go to 172.30.10.5 (pc1) and then it won't ever be seen on that IP
[22:06] <samir110> salut
[22:07] <Scrat9518> Having issues upgrading filezilla to latest version, google not helping. Any ideas? Hope this is the right place to ask.
[22:10] <Rodrigo> teward: So Is there no solution?
[22:18] <teward> Rodrigo: Without a greater understanding of your network topology, I don't have a solution for you.  They're effectively separate 'subnets' since you have a router in place.  If you want PC1 to have an IP in the greater IP space that is on the outer router, it should have a connection right to that router; or a (painful) static route set up for a given IP
[22:22] <johnnycornbread> hello. may i ask questions here?
[22:22] <ksft> johnnycornbread: that's what this channel is for, mostly
[22:22] <genii> johnnycornbread: If it's concerning Ubuntu, yes :)
[22:22] <ksft> yeah
[22:22] <johnnycornbread> nice, thanks.
[22:22] <johnnycornbread> it is
[22:23] <johnnycornbread> i have been running ubuntu (first linux os) for about 1 1/2 yr, 14.04 lts to 15.10
[22:24] <johnnycornbread> i started a plex server, and a ssh server apache webserver
[22:24] <johnnycornbread> now i think my pc might not be high enough class box to handle all this
[22:24] <johnnycornbread> would a different flavor of ubuntu help me out?
[22:25] <tgm4883> johnnycornbread: why don't you think it's "high enough class"
[22:26] <pistolpete> johnnycornbread: how many MGs is ram taking
[22:26] <johnnycornbread> its a amd e1-1500 x2 processor, i notice that i seem to run on average of 87% on both cpus
[22:27] <johnnycornbread> 5.5 gig ram
[22:27] <tgm4883> johnnycornbread: Did you install Ubuntu (with Unity) or Ubuntu Server (command line only)
[22:27] <pistolpete> johnnycornbread: thats alot... but dont do anything with it because of me...
[22:27] <David-A> johnnycornbread: different flavours of ubuntu (xubuntu,lubuntu etc) does not matter much when you use it for services.
[22:28] <johnnycornbread> unity
[22:28] <johnnycornbread> ok thanks David-A
[22:29] <tgm4883> johnnycornbread: as David-A stated, since you're just using it to host services it won't really matter which environment you're in. I would venture that the bulk of that CPU usage is due to transcoding?
[22:29] <johnnycornbread> i also thought transcoding was main factor
[22:29] <David-A> johnnycornbread: you would still install the same server softwares?
[22:29] <johnnycornbread> but notice it a few other times doing misc task
[22:30] <johnnycornbread> yes i would use same services
[22:30] <tgm4883> johnnycornbread: are you having issues with the transcoding?
[22:30] <johnnycornbread> no
[22:30] <j5n3wt0n> just installed ubuntu to dual boot over the weekend having partitioned the hard drive 60/40.  i am now unable to access windows.  please tell me i havent lost everything?
[22:30] <johnnycornbread> just hogs all my cpu makes box unusable for other task
[22:31] <tgm4883> johnnycornbread: have you tried disabling the transcoding in plex?
[22:31] <David-A> johnnycornbread: i think Ubuntu Server have slightly different kernel settings. i don't know if it would matter much. can you do without  a graphical userinterface?
[22:31] <alyyy> hey, I'm having issues with installing grub.  I ran through the ubuntu installer but it gave a grub failed to install message. I tried running "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" and it says "filed to get canonical path of `/cow`". it also tries to install the i386 version even though I'm on 64 bit. any suggestions?
[22:31] <johnnycornbread> tgm4883 no transcoding works fine
[22:32] <johnnycornbread> David-A i think i could but my wife and daughter would flip
[22:32] <tgm4883> David-A: it doesn't. It uses the same kernel
[22:32] <tgm4883> johnnycornbread: wait, you're also using this for a desktop?
[22:32] <johnnycornbread> yes, im sorry should i have said that also?
[22:33] <tgm4883> johnnycornbread: you could gain a little, but I doubt it would help much. transcoding is very CPU intensive
[22:34] <johnnycornbread> im okay with letting it transcode during off peak hours.
[22:34] <alyyy> j5n3wt0n, probably not.  if you didn't select the "wipe everything and install ubunutu" it's most likely there, but the os selection menu just dosn't show windows on it
[22:34] <johnnycornbread> was jsut wondering if there was a better way to do what im doing
[22:34] <j5n3wt0n> is there a way to force the machine to boot windows?
[22:34] <David-A> johnnycornbread: if your daughter or wife fire up firefox or chromium and opens a dozen tabs with youtube videos, it might affect the performance of the services :)
[22:35] <johnnycornbread> yes, i think i have my question answered that i do not need to switch to a resource less heavy flavor i just need to buy a additional box to act as a dedicated server
[22:36] <alyyy> j5n3wt0n, yeah, you'll need to edit that menu to add a windows option. here's one link I found that might help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-add-windows-7-to-grub-boot-entry-892791/
[22:36] <alyyy> j5n3wt0n, there might be a fancy way to boot to windows by entering a command at the os selection screen, but I'm not sure how :)
[22:37] <j5n3wt0n> thanks alyyy :)
[22:37] <alyyy> j5n3wt0n, np ;)
[22:38] <alyyy> does anyone know why my grub install is failing? using 16.04 beta 2
[22:38] <alyyy> `sudo grub-install /dev/sda` dosn't work
[22:39] <j5n3wt0n> alyyy, could you post that link again? accidently closed this window and the link didnt copy.  thank you so much :)
[22:40] <alyyy> j5n3wt0n, yeah dude http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-add-windows-7-to-grub-boot-entry-892791/
[22:40] <alyyy> let us know if that works for you
[22:40] <alyyy> the thread also mentions using a windows 7 recovery cd, which I imagine would probably work if you have one
[22:41] <alyyy> or I guess whatever windows you're trying to install
[22:47] <vaindil> I'm sure this question is asked a ton, but I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 10 using UEFI/GPT. This is the only guide I could find, is it accurate? Do you really have to jump through this many hoops? https://askubuntu.com/questions/666631
[22:48] <j5n3wt0n> Is there a default root password?  i tried using the password that matches my user name and it says authentication failure.  I dont remember adding any other passwords...\
[22:48] <vaindil> well, it's not a ton of work, but it seems like a lot to do
[22:48] <Fuchs> j5n3wt0n: by default the root account is disabled and passwordless
[22:48] <Fuchs> j5n3wt0n: use sudo, there you can use your users password
[22:48] <jvwjgames> Hi I am trying to get Bluetooth to work in my Ubuntu environment and it connects to my phone but then disconnects after a few seconds
[22:49] <jvwjgames> I need it to stay paired
[22:49] <alyyy> j5n3wt0n, so you would do something like `sudo command-to-run-as-root`
[22:50] <Bashing-om> !uefi | vaindil
[22:50] <j5n3wt0n> Thank you again alyyy:)
[22:51] <vaindil> Bashing-om: Sorry, I should've been more clear. I know UEFI isn't a problem, it's GPT.
[22:51] <jvwjgames> Sorry
[22:51] <jvwjgames> Sorry had connection issues
[22:51] <alyyy> :p
[22:51] <jvwjgames> So mY Bluetooth is having issues
[22:51] <jvwjgames> It won't stay paired with my phone
[22:52] <jvwjgames> It disconnects after a few seconds
[22:52] <Bashing-om> vaindil: GPT is a part of EFI . That is the supported partitioning scheme .
[22:52] <jvwjgames> Can anyone help me
[22:52] <jvwjgames> Please
[22:53] <cerealguy> I am interested in maybe improving upon something in Ubuntu, or offering an enhancement. Any guidelines out there?
[22:54] <networked> I know it's a longshot, but is anyone familiar with getting interface statistics through rtnetlink?
[22:54] <alyyy> jvwjgames, I've never had very good luck with bluetooth under ubunutu too. try and tweak all the bluetooth related settings on your box and your phone.
[22:56] <jvwjgames> Ok
[22:57] <alyyy> you could also try looking around the askubunutu.com  for suggestions. not sure past that though, sorry man.
[22:57] <jvwjgames> Thanks for trying though
[22:59] <alyyy> np, good luck
[23:03] <wodim> your ignorant racism is showing
[23:03] <alyyy> wrong window?
[23:04] <genii> !contribute | cerealguy
[23:05] <geosm524> Hii
[23:05] <geosm524> Someone speak spanish?
[23:06] <j5n3wt0n> ok alyyy,  I typed the sudo command line and it asked for a password, I entered my user password, and the system returns "sudo: command-to-run-as-root: command not found".  is it not recognizing my password or is it not recognizing my command?
[23:06] <Bashing-om> !es | geosm524
[23:06] <geosm524> okay, thanks ;)
[23:08] <genii> j5n3wt0n: Where they put "command-to-run-as-root" is where you type in the name of an actual command you want to run with root priveleges
[23:13] <j5n3wt0n> I installed ubuntu over the weekend with intention to dual boot,  but now windows has vanished... alyyy suggested using su, but it wants a password which i tried to use my user password.  alyyy suggested is use the command to run as root. I think I'm stuck.  any help you can give genii would be helpful, thank you :)
[23:13] <David-A> j5n3wt0n: the command you want to run with sudo, is that a command or script in your home dir?
[23:13] <Kimse> j5n3wt0n: use "sudo su" to change to root
[23:13] <Kimse> enter your user password
[23:14] <Kimse> su <username> you will be asked to enter the password of the user you are changing to
[23:14] <j5n3wt0n> bingo, thank you Kimse
[23:14] <genii> j5n3wt0n: sudo is recommended, and not sudo su. Use sudo -i to enter interactive mode where all things run as root. When done doing admin things, use: exit  to return to regular user
[23:14] <Kimse> root has no password by default
[23:15] <genii> Kimse: This is why sudo -i is recommended
[23:15] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: can you still see your windows partition?
[23:15] <j5n3wt0n> still here.  just cannot access anything in windows.
[23:16] <Kimse> j5n3wt0n: you mean you can't boot Windows?
[23:16] <Kimse> or access the files on your Windows partition
[23:16] <Mitchell92> Hi all... I'm looking to install a wiki on my laptop for a personal local wiki. What steps should I take to install the requirements... like php, mysql, apache, etc... is there something in the ubuntu software center?
[23:17] <j5n3wt0n> correct, Kimse
[23:17] <Kimse> lookup the requirements of the wiki software you wanna install
[23:17] <Kimse> j5n3wt0n: which one of my questions ?
[23:17] <j5n3wt0n> cant boot
[23:17] <Kimse> Did you install Ubuntu or Windows first?
[23:17] <j5n3wt0n> windows
[23:18] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: when you restart, do you get a bootloader menu for a few seconds before ubuntu actually boots?
[23:18] <j5n3wt0n> not since i did the full install with dual boot and partitioning
[23:19] <Kimse> usually the installer asks if you wanna install along side Windows or overwrite or something else
[23:19] <Kimse> what did you choose?
[23:19] <j5n3wt0n> i selected something else
[23:21] <j5n3wt0n> i thought the partitioning part was more confusing, but I think I had it figured out.
[23:21] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: can you boot ubuntu?
[23:21] <ecojud> what did you do at the partitioning part?
[23:21] <HetroErectus> yep... ATI flgrx users better skip 16.04 ubuntu update :(
[23:22] <j5n3wt0n> tgm4883, that's where i am at now.
[23:22] <Kimse> I think you just have to manually add Windows to grub list (the bootloader)
[23:22] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: can you fire up "disks" and take a screenshot of what it shows your partitioning as?
[23:23] <ecojud> what tgm4883 said
[23:23] <Kimse> Try sudo update-grub
[23:23] <tgm4883> Kimse: There's zero sense in us trying to boot windows without first checking that a windows partition exists
[23:23] <j5n3wt0n> let me see if i can get it to come up.
[23:24] <Kimse> update-grub should detect if any exist :)
[23:24] <tgm4883> Kimse: if that was the case, then it should have done that during install as well
[23:25] <Kimse> agree, screenshot would sort that out quickly
[23:26] <j5n3wt0n> how do i get to what you want me to screenshot?
[23:26] <ecojud> open your terminal first... press ctrl + alt + t
[23:27] <Kimse> the "disks" program is in the start menu
[23:27] <ecojud> oh, disks, yes... just start menu and type disks... you'll click the icon when search finishes
[23:28] <ecojud> I was going to gparted
[23:28] <Kimse> guess you could do "sudo fdisk -l" in a termninal too :P
[23:29] <j5n3wt0n> do i save this to clipboard or can i just paste in here?
[23:29] <squinty> !paste
[23:31] <Mitchell92> Hi... I have a notebook computer running ubuntu. I have the need to install a local web server on here, just for one (eventually multiple) web applications. I believe I need apache, mysql, and php... Is there a quick install for desktop ubuntu, or do I need to use apt-get and install everything then configure it? Also, would such software slow down my desktop (well, its a laptop) ubuntu setup?
[23:32] <AlexQ> Hi. I was trying to boot Xubuntu 15.10 from a pendrive (dd'ed iso) on a UEFI laptop. It booted up GRUB, started booting up the OS for ~26 seconds, and froze. Rebooted with no splash and quiet in kernel cmdline, and seems to freeze on "Started Flush Journal to Persistent Storage'.
[23:32] <bazhang> !lamp | Mitchell92
[23:33] <HetroErectus> Mitchell92, beware, setting up apache etc is quite a project
[23:33] <HetroErectus> i tried once but after hours of tinkering, editing all sorts of files, i gave up
[23:33] <j5n3wt0n> is this the url you would need to take a peek? http://imgur.com/WpoZFfu
[23:34] <tgm4883> HetroErectus: err, "apt-get install apache2"
[23:34] <HetroErectus> my point is, its not for noobs ...
[23:34] <Mitchell92> I have a side business doing graphics and web design, on my linux VPS I used Kloxo and it automated that whole install process... I just happen to have purchased a notebook and put linux on it right away.. on Saturday. I know how to do it all, but I really was hoping there is a lightweight and easy to di it.
[23:34] <HetroErectus> tgm4883, yeah for installing it, getting it up and running is a different thing
[23:34] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: uh, there is no windows partition on there
[23:34] <AlexQ> HetroErectus: Depends what you need to set it up for
[23:34] <Mitchell92> I'm just going to be running a wiki and possibly a groupware type thing on it
[23:34] <tgm4883> HetroErectus: it installs already configured for a base website
[23:35] <HetroErectus> AlexQ, on windows i found a simpler app ... basically just open port 80 in the router, point to the directory with index.html and start rocking
[23:35] <j5n3wt0n> so, then it deleted everything that was in windows? or did it hide it under something else?
[23:35] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: I think you partitioned over your windows installation... the only OS partition on your drive is the ext4 which is linux
[23:35] <AlexQ> HetroErectus: There is e.g. XAMPP for Ubuntu as well I believe.
[23:35] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: no, windows is gone
[23:36] <j5n3wt0n> well, in the words of myself... dang it.
[23:36] <HetroErectus> AlexQ, yeah, id rather give a shot at that... the person asked "i need apache, php......... i belive" ... which tells me the person is biting over more than the person can chew
[23:36] <bazhang> AlexQ, there's no xampp support at all
[23:36] <HetroErectus> thats why i wrote it..
[23:36] <j5n3wt0n> not that i am going to miss windows, but i cut my hard drive in 1/3.
[23:36] <tgm4883> HetroErectus: that's making some assumptions....
[23:37] <HetroErectus> tgm4883, oh well... id try XAMPP before going full in on apache, php etc
[23:37] <bazhang> HetroErectus, rather than casting doubt on it, lets help him get it done, please
[23:37] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: well that part you did well. There is a 595GB empty partition
[23:37] <HetroErectus> ask what the goal of his / her website is
[23:37] <AlexQ> bazhang: What do you mean "there's no xampp support at all
[23:38] <ecojud> that's plenty of room to install from backup
[23:38] <David-A> Mitchell92: as to using apt-get (command line) or Synaptic (graphical ui) to install the things you need to install: it does not matter, they do the same things
[23:38] <bazhang> HetroErectus, and xampp installs are never recommended here, nor are they ever supported here
[23:38] <j5n3wt0n> so, where windows used to be, there is now a black hole?
[23:38] <HetroErectus> hmm.. ok
[23:38] <bazhang> !xampp
[23:38] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: just free space
[23:38] <tgm4883> HetroErectus: your example of "starting a web server and pointing it to index.html" being too hard in apache is ludicris
[23:38] <bazhang> see above AlexQ
[23:38] <HetroErectus> tgm4883, that wasnt how i had to configure apache
[23:38] <j5n3wt0n> am i able to recouperate the nearly 600 gb?
[23:38] <HetroErectus> tgm4883, it was ALOT of tinkering... hours
[23:39] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: possibly. It's possible you partitioned it and then just installed ubuntu to the wrong partition.
[23:39] <David-A> Mitchell92: after install, you need to configure things. that may include editing config files, and may not have graphical ui.
[23:39] <bazhang> HetroErectus, rather than hinder lets help, thats enough doubt cast
[23:39] <Mitchell92> thanks David-A .
[23:40] <j5n3wt0n> tgm4883: but there is no way to recover windows?
[23:40] <Mitchell92> if all i want is a wiki, is there a program out there that is just a standalone wiki?
[23:40] <AlexQ> bazhang: Oh, I thought you meant that XAMPP doesn't support Ubuntu. I just wanted to point out to HetroErectus that there is this also a "simpler app" for Ubuntu. Whatever, I agree that normal LAMP stack from repo is much better
[23:40] <tgm4883> HetroErectus: I'm with bazhang here, let's try to help people here
[23:40] <HetroErectus> ok ... go ahead :)
[23:40] <HetroErectus> i was just fishing for a simpler setup, but whatever
[23:40] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: doubtful, you likely overwrote it
[23:40] <bazhang> HetroErectus, further doubts to the chit chat channel, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:41] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: the only way to recover what you had is to install it from a backup
[23:41] <HetroErectus> fine, im out of this debate!
[23:41] <tgm4883> HetroErectus: we already know your stance. Apache is not for noobs. And by your own definition, you are a noob.
[23:41] <HetroErectus> tgm4883, and im proud of it!
[23:42] <bazhang> lets wrap this up and done
[23:42] <tgm4883> HetroErectus: and you should be. We were all noobs once. But that also makes you the least knowledgable person on the subject
[23:42] <j5n3wt0n> what do i need to do to recover the free space?
[23:42] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: you could put another windows installation in the free space if you want, or you can format for extra storage
[23:42] <bazhang> tgm4883, Ive asked several times now
[23:43] <j5n3wt0n> ecojud: well, the only think of any importance i had there was my resume, and i can recover that from my email.
[23:43] <AlexQ> Anyone knows some simple disk imaging app that works like dd, but works on Windows? My Xubuntu stick doesn't want to boot there, so...
[23:43] <bazhang> AlexQ, ask about windd in ##windows
[23:43] <j5n3wt0n> that and itunes.
[23:43] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: was there irreplaceable stuff on that drive? There is some stuff you could try (although I'm unfamiliar with it) but it would probably be painful
[23:44] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: doesn't itunes backup to the cloud?
[23:44] <AlexQ> thanks bazhang
[23:44] <bazhang> welcome
[23:44] <j5n3wt0n> it does back up to the cloud, but my itunes was pre-cloud
[23:44] <tgm4883> ah
[23:44] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: if you just want the storage, create a new partition taking up the free space (leave your other three partitions alone), then format the new partition to ext4 or some other suggested format
[23:46] <j5n3wt0n> ecojud: thats probably what i am going to have to do, but i am going to research it first and not end up in this boat again.
[23:46] <danytweet> ciao
[23:46] <danytweet> !list
[23:46] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: if the data is worth it to you, then you need to stop using this drive and go buy another larger drive. Then you can image this drive and run some different tools against it
[23:46] <Bashing-om> !testdisk
[23:46] <ecojud> you won't be able to format the partition you are currently booted from, so you should be able to mess it up too much
[23:47] <j5n3wt0n> i think i am counting my losses at this point.  i was having problems with windows anyway
[23:47] <tgm4883> j5n3wt0n: I don't know what's kept in itunes, but since you can get your resume from your email I'd probably just forgo the work of getting that data back
[23:47] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: just virtualize windows if you ever need it agian
[23:47] <tgm4883> +1
[23:48] <David-A> j5n3wt0n: re. data recovery, if the filesystem have been destroyed, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[23:48] <tgm4883> Then if you ever want to accidently delete it again you can just use 'rm' instead of partitioning
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[23:51] <j5n3wt0n>  kind of feels like loosing a sibling that beats me up all the time.
[23:52] <ecojud> so, I have a lenovo G580 pre-installed with windows 8, dual-booting with ubuntu 14.04, upgraded to win 10.  No problem booting, but choosing "BIOS Setup" from boot menu leads to GRUB... any suggestions?
[23:53] <j5n3wt0n> ecojud: Thank you for your help.
[23:53] <j5n3wt0n> tgm4883: Thank you for your help,
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[23:53] <ecojud> j5n3wt0n: no problem... come back if you have more questions
[23:53] <bazhang> iasinspace, stop that
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[23:55] <ecojud> upgrading the bios brought "Bios Setup" functionality back, but got rid of (or pointed away from) grub.  Reinstalling ubuntu made "Bios Setup" go to grub again
[23:56] <jvargas> Hello. Will 16.06 be eventually upgraded to Unity 8 or will stay with Unity 7 during its support lifecycle?
[23:56] <jvargas> s/16.04/16.04
[23:56] <jvargas> Sorry, you got the point.
[23:58] <sector_0> how can I create a bootable HDD?
[23:58] <sector_0> and by this I mean one that allows me to install from the HDD
[23:58] <ecojud> sector_0: what are you trying to install?
[23:58] <sector_0> ecojud, ubuntu 14.04
[23:59] <sector_0> ...and I'm hoping to install 16.04 in this way when it's released
[23:59] <ecojud> sector_0: what OS are you planning to use to create the hdd?
[23:59] <sector_0> ecojud, well I'm currently on xubuntu14.04