| Unit193 | ...Wow. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| bluesabre | thats unexpected | 01:01 |
| pavlushka | gedit opens the 2nd file as 2nd tab in the same window but mousepad has tab support but opens the 2nd file in a new window. | 05:14 |
| flocculant | PaulW2U: if you get chance could you apport-collect 1568604 that should grab info for that mouse missing bug :) | 07:00 |
| flocculant | can't confirm that - perhaps affects laptops | 07:00 |
| flocculant | I changed package to power manager - not sure it's right, but closer than Ubuntu | 07:01 |
| flocculant | if it IS power manager perhaps it's because I'm using the staging one rather than repo version | 07:02 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: bug 1568604 - hopefully xfpm is the right package | 07:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1568604 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xubuntu 16.04 beta looses mouse cursor when returning from sleep" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1568604 | 07:02 |
| flocculant | that's all a bit much thinking for 1 cup of tea and not awake ... | 07:03 |
| flocculant | sigh - not got staging one at all - I've got the daily :) | 07:19 |
| pavlushka | flocculant: I think that bug is affecting me too. | 07:21 |
| flocculant | mmm | 07:23 |
| flocculant | pavlushka: re mousepad - it's not gedit, if you want more than one file in an instance - drag and drop works, personally it works for me that way - I have more than 1 workspace - I often have mousepad open on both so if it auto opened in one I would be back and forth in workspaces looking for it | 07:30 |
| flocculant | bbl | 07:32 |
| pavlushka | copy that | 07:33 |
| ali1234 | gedit is actually desktop aware | 07:47 |
| ali1234 | it opens files in the window on the current desktop if you have more than one | 07:47 |
| ali1234 | and if you have no window on the current desktop, it opens one | 07:47 |
| ali1234 | lately i've been using xed. it has all the features of gedit without the silly user interface (it looks almost identical to mousepad) | 07:52 |
| ali1234 | i do miss the tab/space conversion feature in mousepad though | 07:53 |
| pavlushka | copy that too | 07:58 |
| ochosi | knome: just so you know, i get those rename-crash bugs in thunar in 15.10 too. had no time to dig into that further, but i guess we're looking at something with a history of not working properly anymore | 08:49 |
| ali1234 | thunar crashes constantly for me in 15.10. the crash is triggered by inotify events, so rename, create, delete files or directories | 09:12 |
| ali1234 | and whether you do it in thunar, or just have thunar open on a directory with files that are changing | 09:12 |
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| ali1234 | there are exactly two non-tx patches on thunar git since 1.6.10 and looks like either of them could fix it. i'll try it | 09:16 |
| ochosi | ali1234: thanks, that'd be great! | 09:25 |
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| bluesabre | flocculant: Corsac saw that bug a little while back and determined that it's related to Intel... while I couldn't find a bug number, I did find the comment | 10:37 |
| bluesabre | 2016-03-16 12:12:20Corsacso indeed, it looks intel related: disable SNA or switching to modesetting fixes the issue | 10:37 |
| bluesabre | ali1234: let me know if you find a suitable fix... we have on in -staging that doesn't seem to fully resolve it | 10:39 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: thanks - so I can assume it is xfpm? | 11:01 |
| bluesabre | actually, closer to light-locker | 11:02 |
| bluesabre | 2016-03-16 08:35:14Corsaca simple vt-switch is not enough to trigger it, but dm-tool switch-to-greeter | 11:02 |
| bluesabre | so lightdm/light-locker/intel | 11:03 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ok - just wasn't sure what package it wanted - but WAS sure it wasn't Ubuntu :p | 11:03 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I'll get the laptop out of the box and install to it - if it's intel then I guess I'll be able to confirm | 11:04 |
| flocculant | and do the apport collect stuff | 11:04 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: though, the laptop the bug report shows has an nvidia graphics card on the product page, so might need to confirm with the reporter as well http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w540/#tab-tech_specs | 11:05 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ack | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | but inevitably, he's probably coming back from sleep -> light-locker -> lightdm -> lightdm-gtk-greeter | 11:05 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: but PaulW2U confirmed on Toshiba C-50B which apparently Intel® HD Graphics | 11:06 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I'll leave it at light-locker for the moment :p | 11:07 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: yep - can confirm that disappearing cursor bug - regardless of xfpm version | 13:52 |
| flocculant | left a note for reporter to confirm graphics and run apport-collect | 13:53 |
| flocculant | if I see nothing from them by tomorrow I'll report it myself and mark the other as a dupe | 13:53 |
| flocculant | didn't know only reporter could do that - guess it makes sense logically :) | 13:54 |
| PaulW2U | flocculant: will do when I get home | 14:12 |
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| flocculant | PaulW2U: seems that only the reporter is able to do so | 14:14 |
| akxwi-dave | flocculant, If I remember that particular laptop has a quadro gpu in it.. its quite a powerful workstation lappy | 14:18 |
| flocculant | mmm | 14:19 |
| akxwi-dave | i've got a lenovo with 16.04 on it at home.. it has an dual intel/nvidia so will test that bug at home later as well | 14:20 |
| flocculant | I'd expect you to find it | 14:20 |
| akxwi-dave | must be honest, dont usually use suspen/sleep..too many probs over the years with it.. :-) | 14:22 |
| flocculant | I rarely use laptop ... and desktop only takes a few seconds to boot anyway | 14:22 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: so - reporter has installed nvidia driver (one of those dual graphic jobs) and no longer sees the problem - left the bug as confirmed for the moment rather than marking it | 15:15 |
| flocculant | do we want this reported from someone(or thing) that still has the issue ? | 15:16 |
| PaulW2U | flocculant: still a problem here after installing all of today's updates, rebooting and then suspending | 15:20 |
| PaulW2U | but it's not a problem using the latest ISO, fully updating and then suspending | 15:21 |
| PaulW2U | ^^ in a live session | 15:22 |
| knome | flocculant, if you are around and want to chime in, #canonical-sysadmin | 16:37 |
| flocculant | did | 16:39 |
| knome | saw | 16:39 |
| flocculant | see | 16:40 |
| flocculant | knome: you still not able to login? | 16:40 |
| knome | nope | 16:40 |
| knome | flocculant, you could try logging me out | 16:41 |
| flocculant | knome: you are now logged out | 16:42 |
| knome | cheers, let's see... | 16:42 |
| knome | mmh, nope | 16:42 |
| flocculant | knome: what if remove your openid string so it has to redo that? | 16:43 |
| knome | i don't even get so far this time again | 16:44 |
| flocculant | right | 16:44 |
| flocculant | just wonder if removing that string would help | 16:45 |
| knome | well | 16:45 |
| knome | i've logged out of ubuntu one several times in the span of these days | 16:45 |
| flocculant | mmm | 16:45 |
| flocculant | do we actually want something published today btw? | 16:48 |
| knome | yep | 16:48 |
| knome | the mugshot article | 16:48 |
| flocculant | you want me to do that now? | 16:48 |
| knome | that works | 16:49 |
| flocculant | I see it's been edited since last time I looked | 16:49 |
| knome | mhm, and i can react immediately if it's completely borked | 16:49 |
| flocculant | ok - doing so now :) | 16:49 |
| * knome 's finger is on the button | 16:49 | |
| flocculant | published | 16:49 |
| knome | looks good | 16:50 |
| knome | tweeting | 16:50 |
| flocculant | okey doke :) | 16:50 |
| flocculant | that at least is easy to accomplish :p | 16:50 |
| knome | yep | 16:50 |
| knome | and tweeted | 16:51 |
| knome | pleia2, ^ if you can G+ and FB when around | 16:51 |
| pleia2 | done | 16:53 |
| knome | thanks | 16:53 |
| flocculant | hey pleia2 :) | 16:53 |
| pleia2 | nope nope nope | 16:55 |
| pleia2 | I mean, hi :) I am going back to work now | 16:56 |
| flocculant | :) | 16:56 |
| akxwi-dave | flocculant, Just ran the suspend mouse disappear test both with nvidia drivers and nouveau drivers.. Mouse pointer stays on screen and works fine.. | 18:30 |
| flocculant | akxwi-dave: thanks - so definitely appearing to be as suspected - intel :) | 18:31 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ^^ | 18:31 |
| akxwi-dave | I'll i'll confirm that in a min this machine has an intel gpu on the cpu as well I'll disable the nvidia.. give me a few mins | 18:32 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 18:41 |
| akxwi-dave | yep.. problem is with intel... | 18:42 |
| flocculant | added to release note | 18:43 |
| PaulW2U | Samsung R-620 with ATI graphics is ok | 18:43 |
| flocculant | PaulW2U: excellent - thanks :) | 18:44 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: this bug perhaps > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815135 | 18:47 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 815135 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "No cursor displayed" [Normal,Open] | 18:47 |
| flocculant | and bug 1297144 which is an oldy but goody - even has ochosi in there :) | 18:50 |
| ubottu | bug 1297144 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[Lenovo ThinkPad X230] Invisible cursor after resume from suspend" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297144 | 18:50 |
| zequence | How to preview ubiquity slideshows, now again, anyone? | 18:58 |
| zequence | knome: Maybe you know? | 18:59 |
| flocculant | zequence: I think when you've got the branch locally it's ./testsh<tab> flavour | 19:00 |
| flocculant | can't remember the exact wording in there as I tab complete :) | 19:01 |
| zequence | Ah, right. Let me try to find it | 19:01 |
| flocculant | ./test-slideshow.sh xubuntu | 19:01 |
| flocculant | here | 19:01 |
| zequence | Right under my nose. Thanks flocculant! | 19:02 |
| flocculant | welcome :) | 19:04 |
| flocculant | knome: best have a backup plan to get the release announcement done - like someone other than you :p | 20:02 |
| flocculant | and not me ;) | 20:02 |
| knome | hah | 20:02 |
| knome | backup plan is to force IS let us have "local" login | 20:03 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:03 |
| Nairwolf | knome: what is IS ? | 20:24 |
| knome | canonical internet services | 20:24 |
| Nairwolf | ok, I see | 20:24 |
| knome | Nairwolf, are you saying you are volunteering to be in touch with them if other things fail? | 20:24 |
| knome | :P | 20:24 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 20:24 |
| Nairwolf | no, sorry ^^ | 20:25 |
| flocculant | oh boo | 20:25 |
| flocculant | :p | 20:25 |
| Nairwolf | but why do you think something will fail ? | 20:25 |
| flocculant | experience ;) | 20:26 |
| knome | because something is failing now. | 20:26 |
| Nairwolf | oh... | 20:26 |
| Nairwolf | best luck for that ! | 20:26 |
| flocculant | knome: do we want a wallpaper article? | 20:28 |
| knome | flocculant, yep | 20:28 |
| knome | flocculant, either one or two | 20:28 |
| knome | :P | 20:29 |
| flocculant | knome: a lot to squeeze into 9 days ;) | 20:29 |
| knome | indeed | 20:29 |
| flocculant | not the writing - but publishing :p | 20:30 |
| knome | yep | 20:30 |
| flocculant | cloud/other and wallpaper still to write - does that match what you think? | 20:31 |
| knome | yep | 20:31 |
| knome | well, cloud is almost there | 20:32 |
| knome | probably only need some intro and outro babble | 20:32 |
| flocculant | on pad | 20:32 |
| flocculant | nothing on wordpress | 20:32 |
| knome | yep | 20:32 |
| knome | same with other | 20:32 |
| flocculant | right | 20:32 |
| flocculant | I'll get cloud started now | 20:33 |
| knome | if everything else fails, i'll disable openid logins for staging too, then prepare the article for you in wp format there | 20:33 |
| flocculant | oh ok | 20:33 |
| knome | so no worries about that | 20:33 |
| flocculant | that makes sense | 20:38 |
| flocculant | just shout if you need something - wallpaper pad at http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-wallpaper | 20:39 |
| knome | ta, i wil | 20:39 |
| knome | will too | 20:39 |
| knome | if i can log in at some point.. | 20:39 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:39 |
| flocculant | well if necessary we can do something else - google doc if we have to for instance | 20:40 |
| knome | yep | 20:40 |
| flocculant | I'll start the wallpaper one - at least get some bones there | 20:42 |
| flocculant | long night last - flagging a bit now ;) | 20:42 |
| flocculant | bones it was - night all :) | 21:01 |
| knome | nighty flocculant | 21:01 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, PaulW2U, akxwi-dave: thanks a bunch! | 22:18 |
| knome | flocculant, some edits done at https://xubuntu.org/?p=3830&preview=true (yes, i could finally log in.. at least once) | 22:36 |
| knome | flocculant, also, cloud article is now up at https://xubuntu.org/?p=3890&preview=true, so all edits there, please :) | 22:36 |
| knome | bluesabre, hullo? | 23:01 |
| bluesabre | knome: hi | 23:10 |
| knome | bluesabre, do we already know if some of the bugs are without doubt going to be postponed for .1? | 23:10 |
| bluesabre | knome: probably most bugs if they're not already resolved | 23:11 |
| knome | hah, okay | 23:11 |
| knome | http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-details/s=todo,inprogress,blocked+sort=assignee+sortdir=asc | 23:11 |
| knome | anything from -dev or you that you might be able to fix? | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | knome: I'll take a look... can postpone the doc templates at this point | 23:13 |
| knome | yeah, i was thinking about setting up the -1604-point-1 blueprint tomorrow or sth | 23:13 |
| bluesabre | ok | 23:14 |
| bluesabre | I'll see about the appstream things, not many there, but a few can't be fixed just because they're missing icons | 23:14 |
| knome | like what is? | 23:14 |
| bluesabre | xfce4-notifyd has a single (old icon) that is 48px, and appstream min is 64px | 23:15 |
| knome | ah | 23:16 |
| bluesabre | xfce4-help uses the generic help icon, which is reserved for menus, and not 64px | 23:16 |
| knome | but could we use that as an appicon too? | 23:16 |
| knome | or do we need a specific one? | 23:16 |
| bluesabre | it's not us - needs to be either in the package, adwaita icon theme, or humanity icon theme | 23:16 |
| knome | ...but we can change the pkg? | 23:17 |
| bluesabre | sure, we can stick our icon in there, but that's not very upstream | 23:17 |
| knome | :) | 23:17 |
| bluesabre | same for xfce4-settings | 23:18 |
| bluesabre | The icon 'preferences-desktop-peripherals' was not found in the archive. | 23:18 |
| bluesabre | generic menu icon | 23:18 |
| knome | sigh for stupid requirements | 23:19 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 23:19 |
| bluesabre | or non-svg themes, or non-svg upstream application icons | 23:20 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:20 |
| knome | :) | 23:20 |
| bluesabre | something that looks funny is better than nothing | 23:20 |
| knome | yep | 23:20 |
| bluesabre | in that case, suppose I could just scale up the 48px icon | 23:20 |
| knome | ugh | 23:21 |
| bluesabre | not great, but heyyy | 23:21 |
| knome | well | 23:21 |
| bluesabre | lol | 23:21 |
| knome | i was thinking we could draw new icons | 23:21 |
| knome | but it would not be very upstream as you said :P | 23:21 |
| bluesabre | but we'd probably want to do it tango-style? what should xfce use as a basis going forward since tango is dead and elementary is elementary? | 23:22 |
| knome | not the one deciding about xfce visual future | 23:22 |
| bluesabre | oh wow | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | more dead than I thought | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | http://tango.freedesktop.org/ | 23:23 |
| knome | heh | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | suppose its hard to be modular and maintain a brand identity | 23:24 |
| bluesabre | maybe I'll bug ochosi about that to help get some new guidelines together | 23:24 |
| knome | yeah | 23:24 |
| knome | maybe after 16.04... | 23:25 |
| bluesabre | but yeah, I'll work on cleaning some of these things up a bit later | 23:28 |
| knome | ta | 23:29 |
| bluesabre | bbabl | 23:33 |
| knome | back tomorrow, good night | 23:44 |
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