| solo | hello | 00:24 |
|---|---|---|
| solo | short time linux user - first time caller | 00:25 |
| teward | solo: do you have a question? | 00:26 |
| solo | yes thanks teward | 00:26 |
| solo | im wondering about installing lubuntu | 00:26 |
| solo | right now i have 14.04 and just tried to update to 15.10 its okay but now i want to try lubuntu as im starting to run a few services and think this may help with my resource managment | 00:27 |
| solo | is there a command to install lubuntu and not lose my date | 00:29 |
| solo | should i use a cd? | 00:29 |
| solo | am i headed in the wrong direction? | 00:29 |
| teward | solo: let me get this straight, you have 14.04 right now, and want to update to 15.10, even though 16.04 is coming out in a few weeks? | 00:30 |
| teward | any chance you can wait a few weeks? | 00:30 |
| teward | (also, with ANY upgrade, you need to back up your data so you have a copy that isn't going to get deleted by accident if the upgrade fails) | 00:30 |
| wxl | s/need to/should/ | 00:31 |
| teward | wxl: given the track history of 14.04 -> 15.10 upgrades recently, s/should/need to/ | 00:31 |
| teward | [2016-04-11 20:27:26] <solo> right now i have 14.04 and just tried to update to 15.10 | 00:31 |
| teward | ^ that's the basis | 00:31 |
| teward | but you're right, you don't *have* to make a backup | 00:32 |
| teward | but you really *should* | 00:33 |
| solo | sorry guys kids need something | 00:37 |
| solo | 16.04 ubuntu i think is not going to work with my graphics | 00:37 |
| solo | 15.10 ubuntu is okay | 00:38 |
| solo | 14.04/10 i had for while | 00:38 |
| wxl | why would newer versions not work? | 00:38 |
| solo | but with plex server, ssh, apache web, and desktop use i notice my cpus maxxing out | 00:39 |
| solo | i can find link but i think they have a bug for amd graphics in 16.04 that is kinda show stopping (ubuntu) | 00:39 |
| solo | so i thought maybe lubuntu would free up enough resources to allow me to do all my services plus use as desktop computer | 00:40 |
| solo | i agree backups should be done | 00:40 |
| solo | was not sure if there was a easy way to wipe clean while retain home directory and then fresh install lubuntu copy in home directory backup and be ready to rock | 00:41 |
| teward | wxl: Lubuntu follows the same short-death-time for 15.10 as Ubuntu does, right? | 00:41 |
| wxl | yuuuuuup | 00:41 |
| teward | solo: not if you plan on wiping clean, no | 00:41 |
| teward | the reason I suggested 16.04 and not 15.10 is because 15.10 has a 'short' time span of being alive and supported | 00:42 |
| solo | as far as i know it follows excatly the same just comes in diffrent flavors | 00:42 |
| teward | in July 15.10 dies | 00:42 |
| wxl | you could also install the lubuntu-desktop metapackage and then remove all the ubuntu garbage | 00:42 |
| solo | yes teward | 00:42 |
| teward | also what wxl said yes | 00:42 |
| solo | thats why i updated to 15.10 just to gain knowledge of doing it from command line and if i could fix and issues that arouse then plan was to use it till 16.04 just for experience | 00:43 |
| wxl | or just leave the ubutnu garbage because you have enough hard drive space and don't care XD | 00:43 |
| solo | but then found out about my graphics issue with 16.04 | 00:43 |
| solo | make sure im following you | 00:43 |
| wxl | you should burn a live cd of the beta and see if this graphics issue is for real | 00:44 |
| wxl | as it might not be | 00:44 |
| wxl | "amd graphics" is a very wide scope but rarely do graphics issues affect ALL cards a manufacturer produces | 00:44 |
| solo | command line install the lubuntu-desktop metapackage then remove remaining ubuntu bloatware? | 00:44 |
| wxl | yuuuup | 00:44 |
| wxl | !purelxde | 00:44 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » | 00:44 |
| wxl | ^^ that's how to remove the extra bits, if you want | 00:44 |
| solo | thanks im going to read that link real fast and be right back | 00:45 |
| solo | maybe my hardware would help if you knew stats | 00:45 |
| wxl | i haven't heard anything about an amd bug | 00:45 |
| wxl | so my guess is that it doesn't widely affect all amd devices | 00:46 |
| solo | 15.10 / cinnamon 2.8.6 / 3.16.0-70-generic / amd e1-1500 with readon HD graphics x 2 / 5.5 gb mem / 474 gb hd / radeon hd 7310 | 00:48 |
| wxl | pci ids would be way more valuable | 00:48 |
| wxl | (for the graphics) | 00:48 |
| wxl | lspci can get you that | 00:48 |
| solo | how? | 00:48 |
| solo | sorry | 00:49 |
| solo | 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 14h Processor Root Complex | 00:49 |
| solo | 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7310] | 00:49 |
| solo | 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler HDMI Audio | 00:49 |
| solo | 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 14h Processor Root Port | 00:49 |
| solo | 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40) | 00:49 |
| solo | 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller | 00:49 |
| teward | solo: i hate to ask, but what AMD bug do you refer to? | 00:49 |
| teward | aaaack! pastebin! | 00:49 |
| teward | !pastebin | 00:49 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 00:49 |
| wxl | yeah that | 00:49 |
| wxl | sheesh | 00:49 |
| wxl | you need to use the right switches to get the pci ids | 00:49 |
| wxl | which is to say, this is a nice opportunity to learn about the most important thing in regards to the command line: reading the man page :) | 00:50 |
| teward | wxl: man man | 00:51 |
| solo | i like the man page | 00:51 |
| wxl | usually i do -nnk | 00:51 |
| wxl | which will get the pci ids and their name resolution, as well as the kernel drivers | 00:51 |
| wxl | so you can install pastebinit and then just do lspci -nnk | pastebinit | 00:51 |
| solo | Received a CTCP VERSION from wxl - ? | 00:52 |
| wxl | if you're really good you get the xchat exec plugin and then just have it do everything | 00:52 |
| solo | nice let me do that real fast | 00:52 |
| wxl | i was trying to figure out your irc program | 00:52 |
| solo | mine is xhat | 00:52 |
| solo | sorry xchat | 00:52 |
| wxl | i know that | 00:52 |
| wxl | you didn't have to tell me :) | 00:52 |
| wxl | ctcp version did the trick | 00:52 |
| teward | heh | 00:52 |
| wxl | teward: XP | 00:52 |
| teward | wxl: I lol'd | 00:52 |
| solo | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04 - was the issue i was talking about with 16.04 | 00:53 |
| teward | wxl: I have an evil version because I am weird :) | 00:54 |
| wxl | hahahah | 00:54 |
| teward | apparently I was drunk when I set it | 00:54 |
| teward | but I digress :) | 00:54 |
| solo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15769751/ | 00:55 |
| solo | nah drunk is a good side topic | 00:55 |
| solo | you guys ever had homemade likker? | 00:55 |
| teward | !offtopicv | 00:55 |
| teward | !offtopic | 00:55 |
| ubottu | #lubuntu is the Lubuntu support channel, #lubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Lubuntu, and #lubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 00:55 |
| teward | silence Ubottu, I know I typoed | 00:55 |
| teward | anyways | 00:55 |
| solo | sorry | 00:55 |
| solo | where is the rules listed at i need to glance at them | 00:55 |
| wxl | solo: so now i'm going to teach you about one of the most important command line tools EVER | 00:55 |
| wxl | may i introduce grep | 00:56 |
| teward | nah, just a few seconds of harmless divergence while wxl and I were derping around :) lets not discuss drinks further though :) | 00:56 |
| solo | see | 00:56 |
| wxl | grep can find the needle in the haystack | 00:56 |
| teward | and yes, wxl is good teacher | 00:56 |
| solo | i been trying to learn grep for my bash scripts | 00:56 |
| wxl | and of course you know pipes are really important. i assume you understand that | 00:56 |
| wxl | so | 00:56 |
| solo | | | 00:56 |
| wxl | if were were to do lspci -k | grep fglrx then you would know whether or not you need to worry about this drivel from omgubuntu | 00:57 |
| wxl | if you want to get really bashy about it: | 00:57 |
| solo | no output | 00:57 |
| wxl | ok nevermind then | 00:57 |
| wxl | grep only returns what it finds | 00:57 |
| wxl | in other words: | 00:58 |
| solo | so no worries | 00:58 |
| wxl | lspci -k | grep fglrx | 00:58 |
| wxl | if [ $? -eq 1 ]; then | 00:58 |
| wxl | echo you better worry! | 00:58 |
| wxl | else | 00:58 |
| wxl | don't worry | 00:58 |
| wxl | fi | 00:58 |
| wxl | oops meant to add an echo before that don\'t worry XD | 00:58 |
| teward | wxl: erm, doesn't fglrx provide 'radeon' module? | 00:59 |
| wxl | teward: i don't think so? | 00:59 |
| * teward ran into an "E: No Radeon" when accidentally derping with the Xenial kernel on the LTS on his current computer | 00:59 | |
| solo | can i ask another question | 00:59 |
| teward | wxl: odd, then, that the system here says I"m on the proprietary drivers, yet lspci shows 'radeon' | 00:59 |
| wxl | um | 01:00 |
| wxl | !find fglrx | 01:00 |
| ubottu | Found: fglrx-pxpress, fglrx, fglrx-amdcccle, fglrx-amdcccle-updates, fglrx-core, fglrx-dev, fglrx-updates, fglrx-updates-core, fglrx-updates-dev, boinc-client-fglrx (and 13 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fglrx&searchon=names&suite=wily§ion=all | 01:00 |
| wxl | !find radeon | 01:00 |
| ubottu | Found: libdrm-radeon1, libdrm-radeon1-dbg, xserver-xorg-video-radeon, xserver-xorg-video-radeon-dbg, radeontool | 01:00 |
| wxl | there you go i guess :) | 01:00 |
| wxl | solo: btw there's also lsusb. if you look at the man pages there's usually related tools at the bottom. for future reference. :) | 01:01 |
| solo | okay thanks wxl | 01:02 |
| solo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15769800/ - this is how my apt-get update looks after my upgrade from 14.04 - 15.10 | 01:03 |
| solo | if i command line install the lubuntu-desktop metapackage then remove remaining ubuntu bloatware | 01:03 |
| solo | will that fix all that mess also? | 01:03 |
| wxl | how did you upgrade? | 01:03 |
| solo | do-release-upgrade -p | 01:06 |
| wxl | weird all those packages kept back | 01:06 |
| wxl | you might try a dist-upgrade instead | 01:07 |
| solo | interesting | 01:09 |
| solo | wxl you sure your cool with me just throwing all these questions to you? | 01:09 |
| solo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15769986/ > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | pastebinit | 01:09 |
| wxl | solo: i'm leaving in a bit but for now, sure | 01:10 |
| wxl | try lsb_release -a | 01:10 |
| solo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15770034/ | 01:11 |
| wxl | bizarre | 01:11 |
| solo | wow | 01:11 |
| wxl | did you update before all this? | 01:11 |
| solo | sure almost daily | 01:11 |
| wxl | do it again just to see | 01:12 |
| wxl | so | 01:12 |
| wxl | sudo apt update && sudo apt -y dist-upgrade | 01:12 |
| solo | whats the -y? | 01:12 |
| wxl | say yes to all prompts | 01:13 |
| wxl | you don't have to do it | 01:13 |
| wxl | it's a normal thing for me | 01:13 |
| solo | just like sqlmap | 01:13 |
| solo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15770086/ | 01:14 |
| solo | E: Internal error, Upgrade broke stuff - LOL what kinda of error is that | 01:14 |
| wxl | yikes | 01:14 |
| wxl | i am a bit at a loss | 01:14 |
| wxl | i've never had a problem like this except when doing some really funky stuff | 01:15 |
| solo | i think i like fixing stuff like this better then browsing the web lol | 01:15 |
| wxl | btw i think xchat has a built in /exec function | 01:16 |
| wxl | you might be able to do something like /exec -out some-cli-command | pastebinit | 01:16 |
| wxl | and it would spit out the url to the chat | 01:16 |
| solo | empty document | 01:17 |
| solo | so whats the easy way out here? | 01:17 |
| wxl | /help exec | 01:18 |
| solo | back up both users in /home wipe then fresh lubuntu ? | 01:18 |
| wxl | the -out thing is what i would do in irssi | 01:18 |
| wxl | anyways | 01:18 |
| wxl | yeah i'd give that a shot | 01:18 |
| wxl | i guess i have no idea what happened to get you to this point | 01:18 |
| solo | bash history help? | 01:18 |
| wxl | i mean maybe we could pick through your apt/dpkg log and find some answers but other than that, i just don't know | 01:19 |
| wxl | it's as if apt thinks you're on a different version or something | 01:19 |
| solo | see in about my year and half on linux so far i have never looked at any log files | 01:19 |
| wxl | i just don't know | 01:19 |
| wxl | you usually don't need | 01:19 |
| wxl | to | 01:19 |
| wxl | apt -f install MIGHT fix you | 01:19 |
| wxl | maybe | 01:19 |
| wxl | might have to do it a bunch fo times interspersed with updates and dist-upgrades | 01:19 |
| wxl | meanwhile i need to head home | 01:20 |
| wxl | sorry i couldn't help :( | 01:20 |
| solo | no worries any bitcoin wallet addy i can send a beer money tip too? | 01:21 |
| solo | hello can someone help me burn a proper copy of the .iso please | 03:16 |
| solo | whats up snake | 03:22 |
| liquidsnake | whats up | 03:23 |
| liquidsnake | not much here just jamming some pink floyd | 03:23 |
| solo | not much man just glad someone is finally talking here | 03:23 |
| solo | nice your not burning a hogleg also are you | 03:24 |
| liquidsnake | its raining like crazy here | 03:24 |
| solo | damn you in missouri ? | 03:24 |
| liquidsnake | nope east texas | 03:24 |
| solo | cool Arkansas | 03:25 |
| solo | lol | 03:25 |
| Ascavasaion | Is there a way to edit the commandline entry in the menu system of Lubuntu's desktop that will make the application open on Desktop 2 when it is selected from the menu? | 07:39 |
| daniel_ | hi guys can anyone help me install the legacy ati drivers? | 13:55 |
| Citizen_ | hello | 14:32 |
| Citizen_ | i was wondering about theming the desktop for my wifes desktop - she had unity before and liked the high contrast icons and another theme - by installing these on lubuntu will i be defeating the purpose of it? | 14:34 |
| n-iCe | hi | 15:05 |
| n-iCe | hi | 16:17 |
| === daytime is now known as iceswordYehai | ||
| === n-iCe_ is now known as n-iCe | ||
| alexF_ | Bonjour à tous! | 18:31 |
| n-iCe | hi | 18:31 |
| alexF_ | Je débute et j'aimerai passer de lubuntu 13.04 à la dernière version mais j'y arrive pas. | 18:32 |
| alexF_ | Quelqu'un peux m'aider s'il vous plait? | 18:32 |
| n-iCe | english? | 18:33 |
| n-iCe | spanish? | 18:33 |
| alexF_ | yes | 18:33 |
| n-iCe | goo | 18:33 |
| n-iCe | good | 18:33 |
| alexF_ | i want to pass the version 13.04 to 15.10 | 18:33 |
| alexF_ | but it don't work | 18:33 |
| n-iCe | oh | 18:35 |
| n-iCe | my advice is always to do a clean install | 18:35 |
| genii | 13.04 is EOL, but unfortunately so is 13.10 which is the next one you would normally upgrade to | 18:35 |
| ianorlin | Back up first | 18:35 |
| genii | Better to go to 14.04 anyways, 15.10 will soon also be EOL | 18:36 |
| alexF_ | how to upgrade to 13.10? | 18:36 |
| genii | !eolupgrade | 18:38 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 18:38 |
| genii | See the last link the bot gives there | 18:38 |
| alexF_ | thank you | 18:40 |
| alexF_ | good bye and thank you | 18:50 |
| === n-iCe_ is now known as n-iCe | ||
| n-iCe | 's back | 20:06 |
| citizen_ | hello | 21:07 |
| n-iCe | hi | 21:12 |
| citizen_ | hey | 21:13 |
| n-iCe | citizen_: :) | 21:13 |
| citizen_ | can anyone spare a few mins to look over this text file for me and tell me what im doing wrong or right? thanks - http://paste.ubuntu.com/15801328/ | 21:14 |
| n-iCe | what do you wanna know exactly | 21:18 |
| teward | citizen_: Error: wall of text, did not read, ask a real question please. | 21:19 |
| citizen_ | idk excatly what to ask | 21:19 |
| n-iCe | citizen_: you have any problem? error? | 21:19 |
| citizen_ | nope | 21:19 |
| n-iCe | then | 21:20 |
| n-iCe | haha | 21:20 |
| n-iCe | enjoy lubuntu | 21:20 |
| citizen_ | jsut kinda stuck on what my next move should be how do i grow my linux experience based off the report i pasted | 21:20 |
| n-iCe | glx check it | 21:21 |
| genii | Install and use things, to expand your linux experience | 21:21 |
| citizen_ | how about some assistence in setting up my ufw to allow plex media server | 21:26 |
| dax | sudo ufw allow portnumberhere | 22:55 |
| dax | oops, that was a while ago, sorry :) | 22:55 |
| drab | hi, trying to burn a dvd but xfburn says no burner available. dmesg/syslog shows the burner mounted and on my desktop two icons of a blank dvd showed up | 22:57 |
| drab | pacman says the disk is mounted, however running " | 22:57 |
| drab | mount" | 22:57 |
| drab | whups | 22:57 |
| drab | shows nothing mounted | 22:57 |
| drab | any thoughts? | 22:58 |
| n-iCe | hi | 23:00 |
| drab | seems to be something with xfburn, downloaded brasero and that's doing its job | 23:04 |
| n-iCe | yeah | 23:06 |
| n-iCe | that was going to tell you | 23:06 |
| citizen_ | what is a good lightweight docker? | 23:08 |
| citizen_ | also, where do you guys get your themes from? | 23:08 |
| n-iCe | docker | 23:09 |
| wxl | n-iCe: pretty sure the question is about a dock. not docker. :) | 23:10 |
| wxl | citizen_: box-look has a bunch of themes. | 23:10 |
| citizen_ | cool thanks | 23:11 |
| citizen_ | how can i just message wxl? | 23:11 |
| drab | hunter2 | 23:14 |
| citizen_ | how about conky is that resource light? | 23:15 |
| amazoniantoad | I installed lubuntu on a machine and every once in a while the desktop seems to crash. The desktop becomes pixelated and the windows create tracers as they are dragged across the screen. | 23:43 |
| amazoniantoad | The only way to "update" the screen to present the actual state of the desktop is by moving the cursor over things. | 23:43 |
| amazoniantoad | How can I solve this issue? | 23:43 |
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