[15:06] <sebsebseb> hi
[15:06] <popey> o/
[15:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: HUD?
[15:08] <sebsebseb> QUESTION:  I read earlier about a way to get some of the graphical programs from Ubuntu working or sort of from Ubuntu such as Firefox, and it seems even XFCE or partly, using that Ubuntu for Windows and a X server for Windows. Have any of you seen about that and it looked interesting, any comments
[15:09] <popey> ChloeWolfieGirl: nothing changed since you last asked
[15:09] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: If my Ubuntu phone will upgrade straight to OTA 10 I think I have missed 9 since not updated for a few months, what's the noticeable differences between the two?
[15:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> popey damn..
[15:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Thanks Mhall119 :P
[15:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Any update on the Messaging app with things like xmpp, kontalk, etc
[15:13] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: If my phone is full up otherwise with video, I should be able to install any OTA update without needing to think about running out of space whilst updating?
[15:14] <sebsebseb> mhall119: good ansewr to my first question
[15:15] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: just us here really?
[15:15] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Whats in the next ota?
[15:15] <ChloeWolfieGirl> sebsebseb: so far.. :L
[15:16] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: yeah and only two of them to, we all a bit lonely :d
[15:16] <mhall119> we were late announcing, so probably not many viewers today
[15:16] <mhall119> but we're glad to have you here :)
[15:16] <sebsebseb> mhall119: oh right I see
[15:16] <sebsebseb> mhall119: maybe some will watch video after and get some good info about things :d
[15:17] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: you got another 50 quetsions to keep the hour going he  h?
[15:17] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I'll dig through my brain. sebsebseb
[15:18] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/vivid/
[15:18] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: OMGubuntu said that in the latest OTA10 the instagram scope got updated, but on the OPO, and Nexus 7 on rc doesn't have it, do you guys know why?
[15:19] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: I used to  run the dev versions of Ubuntu a lot before, but haven't been really, but on the verge of updating to 16.04 I think, but only what a week and a bit early?  My questoin really is how stable it probably really is at this late development stage,  now and the final, will probably be rather the same I Would have thought right?
[15:19] <sebsebseb> but haven't been recently for running above
[15:20] <hosiup> QUESTION: i am considering to buy the m10. is there an easy way to check which apps are compiled for arm? (i am especially needing kile for LaTeX papers and cannot find anything)
[15:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Popey are you getting a "mycroft" device? if so are you going to use your own voice so you can hear yourself reply to your own commands?
[15:20] <sebsebseb> hosiup: welcome
[15:20] <sebsebseb> hosiup: I am going to acsagully buy both m10's,  bought the cheapeest one first
[15:20] <sebsebseb> the cheap one first,  yeah since I wanted that little bit extra cash still :)
[15:20] <hosiup> sebsebseb: hi :D
[15:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> hosiup I'd recomend searching in uappexplorer
[15:21] <ChloeWolfieGirl> WOOO
[15:21] <sebsebseb> hosiup: I think by default it's just FIrefox, Libre Office, The GImp, and Gedit, but with some hacking can get other tradiontal desktop Linux apps working
[15:22] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: any update on the ureadit app?
[15:22] <hosiup> ChloeWolfieGirl: i guess writing papers with latex isnt very popular in uappexplorer ;)
[15:22] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: so I want to run some old program such as mealstrom on the Ubuntu tablet,  after the command thing to make things read write mode, would that work probably or?
[15:24] <hosiup> sebsebseb: thanks but i don't think that i have hacking skills :D
[15:24] <ChloeWolfieGirl> hosiup: They're just the apps that are available in the store currently, but if you dont have a device, thats where I'd recomend looking, sorry that its not there currently.
[15:24] <sebsebseb> hosiup: well it's just a command thing got to make read and write mode
[15:25] <popey> https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/11
[15:25] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Only a few lucky ones but general public no have Ubuntu tablets just yet I Guess, but  then loads of us will watn to try out  yep apt-getting  but I read would have to put in read write mode, how is that done
[15:28] <hosiup> QUESTION: just for fun: does canonical employ people with a math master's ? :P
[15:29] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Richard Stallman wrote yestrday about how ZFS in Ubuntu 16.04 woudn't be compatible with Oracales CCDL lisence and so apparnatly incompatible with the GPL, and this is a story that's been in the Linux media for a few weeks now.  Why does Canoncial take the risk over such a file system only, to possibly break the GPL?
[15:31] <mhall119> popey: we lost you
[15:32] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Is Mir and the phone compatible with switching ui? if Gnome wanted to make a mobile ui, could we install it on the phone, if so how would that work?
[15:34] <popey> https://www.vocalid.co/
[15:35] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: After reading the thing about GUI apps on Windows from earlier, I was thinking hmm maybe I should actsually become a Windows 10 insider so can try those things already, but I also read about how Microsoft could access the system and get into peoples data even if using that and having issues. Of course anything like that in the Linux world woudn't go down well, but Microsoft being able to do that with the Windows 10 insider,
[15:35] <sebsebseb> hmm, any comments?
[15:37] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: I haven't read into this story properly yet, but I assume both or one of you rpobably had, sonme sort of Linux botnet I think it was called Bill Gates, any comments about that?
[15:38] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: How much progress is there with XMPP on the phone, I heard that someone had it hacked together in the messaging app, my friend is intrested in developing in kontalk for ubuntu and aparently its only slightly modified XMPP.
[15:38] <ChloeWolfieGirl> (They're geting a bq tablet and haven't had a phone so they're new to the phone OS)
[15:39] <northman> I can't wait to get XMPP on my phone, IRC would be nice too :)
[15:41] <sebsebseb> QUESION:  Not including the BQ E 4.5 phone that I think you got free in London mhall119  actsually do you have that, and do you have any other Ubuntu touch device if so what and why? Asking also since your in USA and been some issues getting them over there.
[15:44] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Is there any update of Mycroft on the Phone and Unity8 desktop? If so how close do the Mycroft guys and canonical have to work together to get this to work? and do we have popeys voice and any chance of michaels voice on a mycroft voice store of some sort?
[15:48] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Popey can you tell us more about that AI device you told me about I think it was yesterday or the day before, that has your voice in it?
[15:50] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: with bash on windows can you do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu" and "sudo apt-get purge windows" ?
[15:50] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: heh
[15:52] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: An OpenSuse phone I think that might have just been a April fools thing I saw something there online for, but what if that, any coments?
[15:54] <sebsebseb> popey: and a FIrefox phone?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> popey: for your devices
[15:56] <popey> https://mycroft.ai/
[15:56] <popey> that
[15:56] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Can we get an extended q&a? ;P
[15:57] <popey> we have work to do :)
[15:59] <popey>  😃
[15:59] <popey> Thanks everyone
[15:59] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Thank you guys :D
[15:59] <northman> bye :D
[16:01] <sebsebseb> mhall119: popey OpenSuse phone is real or going to be?
[16:01] <sebsebseb> I just saw some head line
[16:01] <sebsebseb> before
[16:02] <popey> i think april fool
[16:03] <sebsebseb> popey: some old stuff in GOogle I just done a search, but not quite ap hone
[16:03] <sebsebseb> popey: I think that's enough really, Ubuntu Phone and Jollla kind of.  if can get one into the main strema mearket that's good :),  Ubuntu touch has most potential
[16:03] <sebsebseb> a proper LInux based phone I mean
[16:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> sebsebseb: Though I like the idea of more linux phones, the market and app developers aren't, if app developers favoured diversity, Windows Phone would never have had the no apps issue, Ubuntu Phone has little market as it is, never mind if they broke up into Ubuntu Phone users and Suse Phone users, unless they could both decide use the same app packages
[16:25] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: yeah that's basically what I meant to
[16:25] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: it's good having a few Linux phnes, but only really one can get into the actsual main streame if any
[16:25] <sebsebseb> and Ubuntu Phones currently have the most potential of that
[16:26] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: Mozilla don't do Firefox for phone anymore.  Jolla had issues with the tablet, but I Think as a phone and I got a Jolla phone to yes it's good to, but I don't think they really had the intention of possibly going main streame anyway,  like Canonical does for Ubuntu
[16:26] <sebsebseb> Phone
[16:27] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: and there's Plasma Actibe i think for phones just about and something like that  I guess, but not any actsual phones.  there is only really one proper player at the moment with the intention of it possibly becoming a main streame option over time, and that's Ubuntu Phone
[16:28] <sebsebseb> as for app developers more would make for Ubuntu Phone if it had more market share quite a lot more, and actsaully was targgeted at average people as well which it is not currently, and before that happens the convergence needs sorting out more properly first for example
[16:28] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: maybe in the next few years some main streame in general phone shops  and online stores and networks and what not, will be selling Ubuntu Phones to
[16:28] <sebsebseb> this is a bit like 2004/5 again
[16:29] <sebsebseb> when I started off using Ubuntu on the desktop wel that was in 2005, but Deesktop Linux in 2004 first FEdora Core 2.  but hten with Ubuntu itw as like, can average computer users switch and be ok with Ubuntu or not,  and there were all those free Live CD's given away by Canonical back then to
[16:30] <sebsebseb> but now it's over 10 years later, and yep Desktop Linux really did not go main streame or anywhere close, but we are having a kind of repeate with the Ubuntu Touch devices now of thAT, and maybe this time round stuff will actsaully get out there move in a few years or so and be a like 3rd or 4th player, so like Iphone, Android, Windows,  Ubuntu??????
[16:30] <sebsebseb> ChloeWolfieGirl: time will tell, and time will tell if you also see these messages soon or not I guess :d