[05:15] <mazal> Mornings
[05:30] <Kilos> morning all
[05:34] <TheMurdz> Morning morning!
[05:37] <mazal> Hi Kilos , TheMurdz 
[05:37] <TheMurdz> How are you doing on this lovely Tuesday?
[05:38] <mazal> Okish and you ?
[05:39] <mazal> TheMurdz, I really like your courier's communication. Got a sms 7am this morning reminding me that delivery is today between 8am and 4pm. I like these guys , one knows what to expect when
[05:39] <TheMurdz> That's really impressive. I'm even impressed. 
[05:40] <mazal> That must be at least 4 sms in total since the weekend. If someone forget it's their own fault
[05:40] <Kilos> hi mazal TheMurdz 
[05:40] <TheMurdz> Heya Kilos
[05:40] <mazal> Oom I struggled this morning :(
[05:41] <mazal> Had only 2g and that is dog slow
[05:41] <Kilos> ai!
[05:41] <mazal> Then attached the 2 external antennas , now it's better
[05:41] <mazal> Back on 3g
[05:42] <Kilos> if a router has 2 antenna use them both
[05:42] <mazal> And 1 update is finished :P
[05:42] <Kilos> they are there for a reason
[05:42] <mazal> A bunch to go
[05:42] <Kilos> do 1 a day
[05:42] <Kilos> night
[05:42] <mazal> Just 3 to go actually. 8gig , 7gig and 2.5gig
[05:43] <Kilos> im not sure about router antanna design but i think the 2 make up a dipole
[05:43] <mazal> I expected worse after 6 weeks offline
[05:43] <mazal> I go have breakfast , l8tr
[05:44] <Kilos> even on a yagi, every element is needed to perform properly
[06:14] <mazal> TheMurdz, I received this now:
[06:14] <mazal> https://bin.snyman.info/mmm5k9dz
[06:15] <mazal> By "mobile device" does it mean I can put it in a router , or does it have to be a phone ?
[06:15] <TheMurdz> Ahh alright. Mobile device defines anything with a sim slot. So this could be a router as well.
[06:16] <mazal> kewl
[06:17] <mazal> No need to call anybody ?
[06:18] <mazal> Ok and just received another sms that delivery is today. Shees these guys make sure I am aware of it :)
[06:19] <Kilos> lol
[06:19] <Kilos> just sit there quietly and wait
[06:20] <mazal> Ek raak vreesbevange oom , ek is nie gewoond aan sulke diens nie
[06:20] <Kilos> lol
[06:21] <mazal> Ok onto the next little to-do item. R300 of PSN credit that must be spend asap
[06:38] <TheMurdz> Any guys in here from Liquid Telecom?
[06:51] <inetpro> TheMurdz: not that I'm aware of, why?
[06:51] <inetpro> good mornings everyone
[06:54] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[06:58] <pavlushka> Good morning inetpro !
[07:02] <TheMurdz> Morning morning! Wanted to chat to them about the za.archive.ubuntu.com. It's giving some unpleasantly slow connectivity from MTN's side.
[07:02] <inetpro> interesting
[07:03] <Kilos> TheMurdz try switching to another repo
[07:03] <TheMurdz> Cool, Will give that a shot.
[07:04] <inetpro> Kilos: that won't solve the problem
[07:04] <Kilos> nope not if its mtn holding it back
[07:04] <inetpro> ...
[07:05] <chesedo> Morning all
[07:05] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[07:06] <Kilos> inetpro do you remember to the link that maia gave us for all the pics and banners and stuff
[07:06] <Kilos> let karl go wonder through that lot as well
[07:06] <inetpro> Kilos: ask her
[07:06] <Kilos> eish
[07:07] <Kilos> she very busy man
[07:07] <inetpro> I have no idea what you're on about and one email will not kill her
[07:08] <inetpro> oh and I'm not busy anyway
[07:08] <Kilos> man you know all those drawings and cake pics and banner stuffs
[07:09] <Kilos> yes we know you only start work when everyone else goes home
[07:10] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean her blog?
[07:10] <inetpro> http://maiatoday.blogspot.co.za/
[07:12] <Kilos> mailing her
[07:15] <Kilos> i think i gave the link to maaz but cant remember what i called it
[07:15] <Kilos> ai!
[09:04] <Kilos> inetpro she says I uploaded all of our ubuntu assets on this site. http://spreadubuntu.org/ You could also find some official versions of the mascots and logos on the ubuntu wiki itself if I remember correctly.
[09:17] <mazal> Oom Kilos , I have another question
[09:17] <mazal> Telscum gave me 2 numbers 081 180 and 081 183 for problem reports. Are those free numbers when you call from a Telkom sim ?
[09:20] <Kilos> yes from a telkom sim mazal 
[09:20] <mazal> Dankie
[09:21] <Kilos> 183 is supposed to got to the data peeps
[09:21] <mazal> They said 180 is accounts and 183 technical
[09:21] <Kilos> but often you it is a help desk that then puts you through
[09:22] <Kilos> 180 is where you get airtime and buy data from fone
[09:22] <TheMurdz> 10210 I think is free from a telkom landline.
[09:22] <Kilos> *180#
[09:22] <Kilos> if you are using a telkom sim you use 180 and 183
[09:23] <TheMurdz> ^^
[09:23] <Kilos> no need for 081 in front
[09:54] <mazal> Oi , the courier is lost
[09:55] <mazal> Phoned me now
[09:55] <Kilos> lol
[09:55] <mazal> And the directions was so clear
[09:57] <Kilos> hi bushtech 
[09:57] <Kilos> ai!
[09:58] <Kilos> TheMurdz here comes you next customer
[09:58] <Kilos> when he gets voda to connect
[09:59] <TheMurdz> :D! Just going to be AFK for a little while, feel free to send me a DM if needed, otherwise, I'll respond when I get back.
[09:59] <Kilos> cool ty
[10:01] <superfly> TheMurdz: by the way, we broke CI nicely
[10:01] <superfly> On Friday
[10:05] <mazal> Ok , it arrived , so what did they say , follow the instructions on the pack and put it in router
[10:06] <mazal> First thing I wonder , the guy just dropped it off , he didn't do RICA
[10:07] <Kilos> put it in a fone and call them
[10:08] <mazal> This thing must go into a phone it seems
[10:08] <Kilos> router uses sam sim
[10:08] <Kilos> same
[10:09] <mazal> There is one step that one must dial
[10:10] <Kilos> look for man pages
[10:10] <Kilos> hehe
[10:17] <mazal> Oooh , this aint working
[10:17] <bushtech_> Hi Kilos chatted to TheMurdz already. Now to get the location of closest mtn tower out of mtn to align Yagi
[10:18] <Kilos> aha
[10:18] <bushtech_> we'll see what mtn's level of paranoia is
[10:18] <Kilos> good luck that can be quite tricky at times
[10:18] <mazal> **sigh**
[10:19] <mazal> " There is a problem with your number
[10:19] <bushtech_> yep, did eventually get that out of voda
[10:21] <Kilos> easiest is to ride with a mtn fone and watch the signl get stronger
[10:21] <Kilos> then when you have 5 bars the tower should be vivible
[10:21] <mazal> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:22] <Kilos> what nou mazal 
[10:22] <mazal> This thing ain't working
[10:22] <mazal> Their 3rd step fails with error " There is a problem with your number "
[10:22] <Kilos> put it in a fone and call mtn or afrihost
[10:22] <bushtech_> works in town but here where there is few roads it gets tricky
[10:22] <Kilos> igt most likely needs to be ricaed still
[10:23] <Kilos> oh no dirt bike
[10:23] <bushtech_> isn't there a time lag on the sim activations sometimes
[10:23] <Kilos> 24 hours they say but mine have been instant
[10:24] <bushtech_> and get shot for being mistaken as a rhino poacher
[10:24] <Kilos> they will want to see proof of residence i think
[10:24] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:24] <Kilos> ok then try get the grid co-ords from them
[10:25] <bushtech_> yep, sent them a mail
[10:33] <inetpro> stupid pepperflashplugin-nonfree!!!!
[10:34] <inetpro> what flash plugin do you guys install?
[10:43] <bushtech_> no idea. I see the pepperflashplugin is for Chrome which I don't use
[10:44] <inetpro> bushtech_: it works for Firefox also, but....
[10:45] <inetpro> every time there's an update it requires manual intervention because of the way it downloads a file outside of the apt processes
[10:47] <inetpro> e.g., if you're behind a proxy you need to set the proxy environment before you run the upgrade
[10:49] <inetpro> can't remember now which plugin I used before which did not need this intervention 
[10:50] <bushtech_> never needed to install a flashplugin. what do you need it for?
[10:51] <bushtech_> is something not playing?
[11:00] <inetpro> bushtech_: make no mistake I avoid flash where ever possible and stopping it by default with flashblock, sadly some annoying sites still need it
[11:01] <inetpro> bushtech_: for example: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[11:05] <inetpro> oh and Kilos, you can always search through the factoids on Maaz
[11:06] <inetpro> e.g., Maaz: search for values containing materials
[11:22] <Kilos> Maaz: search for values containing materials
[11:22] <Maaz> Kilos: ubuntu materials [1]
[11:23] <Kilos> Maaz ubuntu materials
[11:23] <Maaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Materials  http://spreadubuntu.org/
[11:23] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[11:26] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[11:26]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[11:27] <Kilos> inetpro have a couple of cups of coffee , you start working soon
[11:27] <Kilos> ohi superfly thatgraemeguy 
[11:28] <Kilos> hi there Mariusoft nice to see you back again
[11:28] <Kilos> and anton_may as well also too
[11:30] <inetpro> Kilos: are you not supposed to go sleep now?
[11:30] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[11:31] <Kilos> haha
[11:31] <Kilos> Maaz thank you
[11:31] <Maaz> Kilos: No problem
[11:31] <inetpro> can't have coffee before sleep time
[11:31] <Kilos> coffee doesnt keep me awake
[11:37] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[11:41] <anton_may> do what?
[11:42] <Kilos> i dunno
 and anton_may as well also too
[11:42] <Kilos> oh
[11:43] <Kilos> nice to see you back also as well too
[11:43] <anton_may> heidi ho
[11:43] <Kilos> should just be as well but i add stuff at times to make clever peeps think
[11:44] <anton_may> i'm here, just busy fighting with neotel in regards to heavy packet loss on one of their routers
[11:44] <Kilos> ai!
[11:45] <anton_may> one of their peering routers to the saix backbone. so I guess I will not be winning this fight
[11:50] <Kilos> anton_may can you not bypass it?
[11:53] <anton_may> ja, I have an open ADSL line, this is for our hosted exchange. Waiting for the hosting company to add our IP to their FW. Have already set our FW up with new routing rules.
[11:53] <anton_may> Hosted pabx i mean
[11:53] <Kilos> ok
[11:54] <chesedo> hi Kilos, how are you this morning :D?
[11:54] <Kilos> good ty and you chesedo 
[11:55] <chesedo> good good ty
[11:55] <Kilos> struggling some with stupid xp pc
[11:55] <Kilos> bad sector in bood sector
[11:55]  * chesedo just got news that the scope showdown results will be announced tomorrow - am a bit excited
[11:56] <Kilos> now im trying to copy paste whats needed to make it have everything to an ubuntu drive
[11:56] <Kilos> haha what you hoping to win
[11:56] <chesedo> not first (seriously)
[11:58] <chesedo> 2nd and 3rd positions are ubuntu phones...
[11:58] <chesedo> and then there is the innovations price
[11:58] <Kilos> wow that could be cool
[12:16] <thatgraemeguy> hi :)
[12:43] <inetpro> w00t!?
[12:44] <inetpro> chesedo: you enetered into a competition there?
[12:44] <inetpro> entered as well
[12:44] <chesedo> lol, ja man
[12:45] <inetpro> nice! Sounds like you're having fun... 
[12:45] <inetpro> hope you win that phone
[12:46] <inetpro> or better
[12:46] <chesedo> yea had (it was in Feb) - still have to work on some improvements
[12:46] <inetpro> what is first price?
[12:47] <chesedo> System 76 Meerkat - https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/showdown/
[12:49] <inetpro> cool
[14:20] <Kilos> good luck chesedo 
[14:20] <Kilos> when will you know
[14:56] <chesedo> ty Kilos, tomorrow
[15:11] <Kilos> wow no join/psrts today
[15:11] <Kilos> what happened to the internet
[15:29] <mazal> ai I am struggling
[15:30] <Kilos> with what mazal 
[15:30] <mazal> Trying to get the afrihost sim working in my vodacom dongle
[15:30] <mazal> seems impossible
[15:31] <mazal> Aparently the dongle software only recognizes vodacom sims
[15:31] <Kilos> the voda dongle works with an mtn sim in hey?
[15:32] <Kilos> didnt you try it with an mtn sim??
[15:32] <mazal> No was with my phones sim that is vodacom
[15:33] <Kilos> http://vodafone.intelliresponse.com/index.jsp?requestType=NormalRequest&source=2&id=2029&sessionId=179a284f-4c0e-11e5-88b0-6becd5f4e34f&question=How+do+I+unlock+my+USB+modem
[15:34] <Cryterion> mazal, no pin barrier on the afrihost sim?
[15:34] <Kilos> there is a gsm site somewhere that gives you the unlock code after you give them the imei number
[15:34] <Kilos> put the sim in your fone and turn off pins if there is one
[15:36] <mazal> Cryterion nope
[15:37] <Kilos> did you rica it mazal 
[15:37] <Cryterion> checked that the sim is working in a phone?
[15:38] <mazal> Cryterion, yep , works fine in router
[15:39] <Cryterion> hmmm
[15:39] <mazal> Ai , and it's illigal , they may not even lock it
[15:39] <Cryterion> true
[15:39] <Cryterion> but they still do
[15:39] <mazal> ^&%$&$
[15:40] <Cryterion> only vodacom as far as I know
[15:40] <Cryterion> internet devices, but not phones
[15:41] <Cryterion> think the illegal part only relates to phones
[15:41] <mazal> Oh well , there goes that plan
[15:41] <Kilos> what modem?
[15:41] <mazal> k3772-z
[15:41] <Kilos> what make
[15:42] <Kilos> maaz google gsm usb modem unlock
[15:42] <Maaz> Kilos: "Huawei USB modem Unlock, Unlock USB 3G Modem, Unlock ..." http://www.modemunlock.com/ :: "How to unlock CDMA Modem / Dongle for all sim networks - Trickolla" http://www.trickolla.com/2014/03/how-to-unlock-cdma-modem-dongle-for-all.html :: "Huawei E173 Unlocked HSDPA 7.2Mbps GSM 3G USB Modem ..." http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-E173-Unlocked-
[15:42] <Maaz> HSDPA-7-2Mbps/dp/B0055310KQ :: "KuWFi WIFI Unlocked Portable Pocket Mobile 3G WIFI USB Modem ..." http://www…
[15:42] <mazal> Doesn't say , is vodafone branded , probably huawei
[15:42] <Kilos> inside above the sim is a sticker
[15:43] <Cryterion> zte
[15:43] <mazal> Nope , nothing
[15:44] <mazal> I think Cryterion has it. At the very bottom it says ZTE Corporation
[15:44] <Cryterion> https://routerunlock.com/free-unlocking-tips-for-vodafone-zte-k3770-z-and-zte-k3772-z-modem/
[15:45] <Cryterion> probably windows based
[15:45] <Cryterion> you might get some ideas from it
[15:46] <Cryterion> mazal, are you trying to connect via the vodacom software?
[15:48] <mazal> Gonna try this: http://unlockmodemfree.biz/free-unlocking-tips-for-vodafone-zte-k3770-z-and-zte-k3772-z-modem/
[15:50] <Cryterion> maaz: tell mazal text is identical
[15:50] <Maaz> Cryterion: Righto, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[15:50] <Cryterion> maaz: botsnack
[15:50] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[15:51] <bushtech_> maaz:have a dop
[15:51] <Maaz> bushtech_: *blink*
[15:52] <Cryterion> He tells to get your own beer btw
[15:52] <Kilos> haha
[15:52] <Cryterion> maaz: beer
[15:52] <Maaz> Cryterion look in the fridge my friend
[15:52] <bushtech_> yhought he wasn't a real soufeffrican
[15:52] <Cryterion> kilos you getting better now?
[15:53] <Kilos> better than what?
[15:53] <Cryterion> up and about again
[15:53] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:53] <mazal> That worked , kewl
[15:53] <Maaz> mazal: By the way, Cryterion on freenode told me "tell mazal text is identical" 3 minutes and 51 seconds ago
[15:54] <Kilos> ive been up and about all the time, just some days head thumps 
[15:54] <Cryterion> ok, just take it easy
[15:54] <Cryterion> mazal, kwl sorted then
[15:54] <mazal> So it's a software thing
[15:55] <Cryterion> yes
[15:55] <mazal> Cryterion, " text is identical ? "
[15:55] <mazal> What text
[15:55] <Cryterion> the site I gave you and the site you used
[15:55] <Cryterion> I compared and the one's a copy of the other
[15:56] <mazal> I missed your link sorry
[15:56] <Cryterion> https://routerunlock.com/free-unlocking-tips-for-vodafone-zte-k3770-z-and-zte-k3772-z-modem/
[15:56] <Kilos> at least it works
[15:56] <Cryterion> that's the original I think, the one you used has a missing image
[15:56] <Cryterion> true
[15:57] <Kilos> evil move by isp's locking them like that
[15:57] <mazal> So in ubu , how would it be done ?
[15:57] <mazal> Or I will rather ask when that day happens , I forget to easy
[15:57] <Kilos> if its unlocked and working it will work everywhere
[15:58] <mazal> Will ask how when the time comes , will prob be in that thing you call nm oom :P
[15:58] <Cryterion> mazal, create a manual dial up connect pointing to the modem, using the following, *99# as number user and pass both as none
[15:59] <mazal> Does it have apn setting in ubu also ?
[15:59] <Kilos> yes i just use internet there
[16:00] <Cryterion> options are there, just use the networks
[16:00] <mazal> k thanx
[16:00] <Kilos> you might need afrihost
[16:01] <Cryterion> that way you're bypassing all the software, I remember playing with doggles on windows, and preferred the manual dial-up
[16:01] <mazal> I will do now too. Is only for 2 more weeks or so anyway
[16:01] <Cryterion> the apps were just too annoying
[16:01] <mazal> Can't wait for 16.04 that I can do this machine
[16:02] <Cryterion> I waiting as well
[16:02] <Cryterion> 21st I think is release date
[16:02] <mazal> I am itching !!! lol. Been more than a yeasr since a install for me
[16:02] <mazal> Time to break something :)
[16:03] <Cryterion> lol
[16:03] <Cryterion> hopefully I get my Raspberry Thurs, then I'm working out ubuntu Mate :)
[16:09] <mazal> l8tr guys , thanx for the help
[16:09] <mazal> I go abuse the PS4 now
[16:13] <Kilos> lol
[16:15] <Cryterion> lol
[16:21] <Kilos>  nut case
[16:37] <Cryterion> aren't we all?
[16:46] <magespawn> good evening
[16:48] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[16:49] <magespawn> hey Kilos, on my phone so a bit slow
[16:49] <Kilos> np magespawn you are here
[16:49] <magespawn> very small screen
[16:51] <Kilos> we are growing 37 on a weekday
[16:51] <Kilos> whew
[16:52] <Kilos> soon we 50
[16:52] <magespawn> cool beans
[17:06] <chesedo> hi magespawn
[17:10] <fusionsparc> Growing steadily...:)
[17:18] <magespawn> hi chesedo 
[17:29] <Kilos> ive been battling for years fusionsparc 
[17:29] <Kilos> we grow then shrink again
[17:32] <Kilos> certain peeps dont want us to reach 50 so chase peeps away when we get too close
[17:37] <Kilos> whats wrong with this site https://gitlab.com/groups/ubuntuforhope
[17:38] <Kilos> oh just very slow
[17:39] <magespawn> brb just switching over to pc
[17:39] <Kilos> ok
[17:45] <magespawn> right back
[17:45] <Kilos> wb lad
[17:50] <Kilos> wb aquarat you very quiet hey
[17:58] <magespawn> so Kilos, whats up?
[17:58] <magespawn> did wolfeyes get the ssh to the server working?
[17:59] <Kilos> mazal has telkom router and contract and he has afrihost working in his dongle
[17:59] <Kilos> i think he said something about still needing to set proxies
[18:00] <magespawn> good news
[18:00] <Kilos> and the pro is still in strydom mode
[18:01] <Kilos> and we got some new peeps
[18:02] <Kilos> dunno when you last were here or who you missed
[18:02] <Kilos> you know about TheMurdz
[18:03] <Kilos> and Mariusoft and bushtech_ and that kilos okey
[18:03] <magespawn> i have been away for awhile
[18:04] <Kilos> TheMurdz is with afrihost
[18:04] <Kilos> bushtech_ poaches rhino when no one is watching
[18:04] <magespawn> i am not fully understanding that?
[18:05] <Kilos> Mariusoft is new
[18:05] <Kilos> what dont you understand sir?
[18:05] <magespawn> TheMurdz, is that a nick?
[18:05] <Kilos> yes he is sysadmin or something with afrihost
[18:06] <Kilos> helped mazal get going
[18:06] <magespawn> ahh right
[18:06] <magespawn> handy to have such people around
[18:06] <Kilos> yeah
[18:07] <Kilos> they seem to be quite efficient
[18:07] <magespawn> who, afrihost?
[18:07] <Kilos> yes with him pointing fingers
[18:07] <Kilos> mazal got many smsses about his sim arriving
[18:10] <Kilos> oh magespawn i got an old ladies xp pc here that the boot sector has packed up and she has tons of family pics and vids she doesnt want to lose
[18:11] <Kilos> can i just do a reinstall and not change file systems
[18:11] <Kilos> excuse the win question here
[18:12] <magespawn> yes you can just do not format the harddrive, the new install should detect the old install
[18:12] <Kilos> cool ty
[18:12] <magespawn> if it doesn't then you could have problems
[18:13] <magespawn> might be better the try a recovery with a live cd/usb, then recover the files to an external harddrive
[18:13] <Kilos> i have used buntu to copy some stuff in case but not sure what all i should make copies of
[18:13] <Kilos> it  doesnt want to work
[18:13] <magespawn> usually on xp the files are under the user profile 
[18:13] <Kilos> i tried fixmbr then pc saw drive again
[18:13] <Kilos> then fixboot and it gives some error
[18:14] <Kilos> i cant find that user profile
[18:14] <magespawn> take note of the error and use google
[18:14] <Kilos> google mainly says backup and get a new drive
[18:15] <magespawn> might be sound advice
[18:15] <Kilos> i used seatools and only 1 bad sector
[18:15] <magespawn> is it a seagate drive?
[18:15] <Kilos> and of course its right in the boot sector
[18:15] <Kilos> yes 160g
[18:16] <Kilos> seatools says it fixed it
[18:16] <magespawn> then copy the data off, isolate the bad sector, redo the boot sector and mbr and reinstall the os
[18:17] <Kilos> i have copied lots of folders was just checking if there was anything special to do
[18:19] <magespawn> not really
[18:19] <magespawn> hold on
[18:19] <Kilos> ok
[18:25] <magespawn>  C:\Users\(User_Name)\
[18:25] <magespawn> where (User_Name) is the login name
[18:25] <Kilos> ty ill try find that
[18:26] <Kilos> im in it from 12.04  atm
[18:26] <magespawn> it is possible to have things else where, but most people keep all their files there
[18:27] <magespawn> i have to go now, got a drive to bed, chat later
[18:27] <Kilos> go well an ty
[18:27] <mazal-gaming> xp didn't have a users folder did it ?
[18:28] <mazal-gaming> Wasn't it documents and settings ?
[18:28] <Kilos> i dont see it no
[18:28] <mazal-gaming> And in that is the user folder
[18:28] <Kilos> i have copied the whole docs and settings
[18:28] <magespawn> might have been, it is going back awhile
[18:28] <mazal-gaming> yeah , been a while
[18:28] <mazal-gaming> hi magespawn btw :)
[18:29] <magespawn> hi mazal-gaming 
[18:29] <magespawn> cheers all
[18:29] <mazal-gaming> Ok break over , back to COD :)
[18:29] <Kilos> cheers magespawn 
[18:29] <pavlushka> Hi Kilos!
[18:29] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[18:29] <magespawn> /exit/exit
[18:30] <pavlushka> Hi every one including inetpro !
[18:33] <pavlushka> Kilos: i've seen you being busy all day, the irc guy!
[18:34] <Kilos> yeah
[18:34] <pavlushka> i've given you this name in my mind long before.
[18:34] <pavlushka> :p
[18:35] <Kilos> lol
[18:36] <pavlushka> ok Kilos , good for this night! :p
[18:37] <pavlushka> see ya guys!
[18:37] <inetpro> hi pavlushka
[18:38] <inetpro> oh and hi everyone else, as well as the irc dude as well
[18:38] <pavlushka> inetpro: I have just 1 Q b4 I leave.
[18:38] <inetpro> yes Kilos, that is you
[18:38] <Kilos> haha
[18:38] <inetpro> 1 Q?
[18:39] <Kilos> pavlushka dont be lazy and use cell abbreviations
[18:39] <Kilos> question is the word
[18:39] <inetpro> pavlushka: shoot
[18:40] <pavlushka> inetpro: how come you figured that link!!?? https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editlocation
[18:40] <pavlushka> Kilos: I am feeling sleepy, lol
[18:40] <inetpro> pavlushka: how come or just how?
[18:40] <pavlushka> ok how?
[18:41] <inetpro> pavlushka: I've seen the +me documented in some help pages before so I went on a hunt to find it when you had the problem
[18:42]  * inetpro is a hunter gatherer
[18:42] <pavlushka> wow, I've seen it again!
[18:42] <pavlushka> thanks inetpro , good night.
[18:42] <inetpro> os is that hunter-gatherer?
[18:42] <inetpro> or*
[18:43] <pavlushka> inetpro: ???
[18:43] <Kilos> caveman peep
[18:43] <inetpro> pavlushka: just fixing my spelling mistake
[18:44] <Kilos> o+ blood group
[18:44] <pavlushka> copy , buy guys!
[18:44] <Kilos> cheers
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: so what did you want to tell me?
[18:55] <Kilos> me?
[18:56] <Kilos> hello inetpro my buddy
[18:56] <inetpro> have you guys noticed the apt upgrade on 14.04?
[18:56] <Kilos> what apt upgrade
[18:56] <Kilos> i used apt upgrade this morning
[18:57] <inetpro> Kilos: do you not look at what gets upgraded?
[18:57] <Kilos> is there something else added now
[18:57] <Kilos> lots
[18:57] <inetpro> not that many man
[18:57] <Kilos> just explain what you found
[18:58] <inetpro> the new apt now has more options
[18:59] <Kilos> even more?
[18:59] <inetpro> previously you just had very few
[19:00] <Kilos> libgudev-1.0-0 libpam-systemd libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-login0 libudev1
[19:00] <Kilos>   libudev1:i386 systemd-services udev
[19:01] <Kilos> those are what shows now to be upgraded
[19:01] <Kilos> this morning was many
[19:01] <inetpro> look at this mornings upgrade
[19:04] <Kilos> too far
[19:04] <inetpro> Kilos: less /var/log/apt/term.log
[19:05] <inetpro> or 
[19:05] <inetpro> tail /var/log/apt/history.log
[19:06] <Kilos> Log ended: 2016-04-12  21:02:05
[19:06] <Kilos> no man
[19:07] <Kilos> too much reading
[19:07] <inetpro> ai!
[19:08] <Kilos> Upgrade: libsystemd-login0:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.18, 204-5ubuntu20.19), systemd-services:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.18, 204-5ubuntu20.19), libsystemd-daemon0:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.18, 204-5ubuntu20.19), libgudev-1.0-0:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.18, 204-5ubuntu20.19), libpam-systemd:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.18, 204-5ubuntu20.19), udev:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.18, 204-5ubuntu20.19), libudev1:amd64 (204-5ubuntu20.18, 204-5ubuntu20.19), libudev1:i386 (204-5ubuntu20.18, 204-
[19:08] <Kilos> 5ubuntu20.19)
[19:09] <Kilos> ja less is better
[19:09] <inetpro> Kilos: was that this morning?
[19:09] <Kilos> dont ai! me man 
[19:09] <Kilos> i dunno
[19:09] <Kilos> thats all it showed
[19:09] <inetpro> look at the dates man
[19:10] <Kilos> Start-Date: 2016-04-12  21:01:46
[19:11] <inetpro> so that is this morning? No
[19:11] <Kilos> yes
[19:14] <Kilos> anyway apt works so im happy
[19:14] <Kilos> now may i go sleep please sir
[19:15] <Kilos> thats you inetpro 
[19:15] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[19:15] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:15] <superfly> hi Kilos
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: are you tired or what?
[19:16] <Kilos> always ive caught your bug
[19:16] <inetpro> superfly: please fix him up there
[19:16] <Kilos> hehe
[19:16] <Kilos> fly also tired
[19:16] <inetpro> oh my
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: good night sir
[19:16] <Kilos> lol night my friend
[19:17] <Kilos> see you all tomorrow
[19:17]  * superfly gets a wrench out
[19:17] <inetpro> too late now
[19:17] <inetpro> anyway, the apt upgrade is just a minor update anyway
[19:43] <chesedo> inetpro: you still got the rest of us curious..
[19:43] <inetpro> chesedo: haha, you mean with apt?
[19:43] <chesedo> yes
[19:43] <inetpro> sorry
[19:43] <chesedo> :(
[19:44] <inetpro> only noticed later that it was actually not a big deal... or rather...
[19:44] <inetpro> difficult to see exactly what changed
[19:44] <inetpro> aptitude changelog didn't reveal anything
[19:44] <mazal> Evening
[19:45] <inetpro> wb mazal
[19:45] <chesedo> still, what is 'it' that is hard to see?
[19:45] <inetpro> chesedo: what changed
[19:46] <inetpro> Maaz: is changelogs.ubuntu.com up?
[19:46] <Maaz> inetpro: Yes, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/ is up
[19:47] <inetpro> Service Temporarily Unavailable
[19:48] <chesedo> inetpro: maybe https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+changelog , but which version
[19:49] <inetpro> following URL has a 503 error: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/a/apt/apt_1.0.1ubuntu2.5/changelog
[19:49] <chesedo> mine on 1.0.10.2-ubuntu1
[19:50] <inetpro> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS version of apt is 1.0.1ubuntu2.12
[19:50] <chesedo> so https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+changelog#detail_apt_1.0.1ubuntu2.5
[19:51] <mazal> Sleep well guys
[19:51] <mazal> night
[19:52] <inetpro> chesedo: so that would be at http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/apt
[19:53] <chesedo> ok, seems like will have to wait for that page to come up
[19:55] <inetpro> wait... 
[19:55] <inetpro> I found it with the help of your link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/1.0.1ubuntu2.12
[19:55] <inetpro> thanks
[19:56] <chesedo> np
[19:57] <inetpro> gets very confusing with all the different releases
[19:57]  * chesedo also logs of for the night
[19:58] <chesedo> at least i only keep track of the latest
[19:58] <chesedo> s/of/off/
[19:58] <inetpro> good night chesedo
[20:05] <inetpro> chesedo: I was actually hoping that the autoremove option amongst others would be available now on 14.04 but sadly is not there
[20:29] <superfly> hey chesedo
[20:29] <superfly> oh, he's gone already