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flocculantATTN: Xubuntu Core 16.04 - amd64 - installer crashed07:27
flocculantUnit193: I'll keep trying when they turn up :)07:28
flocculantknome: ack re articles - glad you've managed to login in at least once :)07:29
Unit193Bah, well thanks for trying at least.07:30
knomewas able to log in on the first try now as well..08:37
knome...and second time08:41
bluesabreUnit193: if you want to play with breaks/replaces, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/156928111:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1569281 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Appstream xml is stored in wrong package" [Undecided,New]11:26
bluesabremy quick attempts this morning have failed, but I'm probably just missing something small11:26
flocculantlike a 64px icon :p12:19
flocculantknome: meh - stupid mailman message size - got a message in moderation 12:31
flocculantor anyone else who happens to have the key to the cupboard :p12:31
Unit193flocculant: You want to re-send without the image?  I can allow if not.12:32
flocculantguess so :p12:33
flocculantstupid mailman ... 12:33
flocculantUnit193: delete the one that's too big for mailman but ok for elsewhere :D12:34
flocculantthanks 12:34
Unit193Wilco.12:34
flocculantJohnson12:34
pleia2flocculant: put the RC testing request on g+/fb/twitter15:53
flocculantpleia2: thanks :)16:30
pleia2thanks for all your work tracking this all through the cycle, I know how tedious this job is, but important for keeping us all on track16:31
flocculantI don't often feel like you're all children who need the naughty step - so everything seems to be working :p16:35
Nairwolfhi guys, how are you ? I would like to ask you if the xubuntu wiki on wiki.ubuntu.com will be dropped and replaced by wiki.xubuntu.org ? 17:25
NairwolfOr will you use both in the same time ? 17:25
pleia2we've moved the content we can to wiki.xubuntu.org, we likely won't delete the one on wiki.u.c completely since a lot of thinks link there17:30
pleia2afaik we still can't move the meeting agenda because we use includes there that we haven't quite sorted out on w.x.o17:30
pleia2s/thinks/things17:31
Unit193Also the output from meetingology doesn't work directly.17:31
pleia2yeah, it's in moin syntax, not doku17:31
Nairwolfok, so you will still use both, but you will try to use w.x.o in most of cases ? Okay, nice ! 17:34
Unit193Isn't Doku close to Mediawiki?  It's already got one for that.17:35
pleia2Unit193: they're all close ;)17:37
Unit193Well... Real close then. :P17:37
pavlushkaHello every one!17:42
davmor2pavlushka: hello17:42
flocculantdavmor2: !!!17:42
flocculanthi :p17:42
flocculanthello pavlushka 17:43
pavlushkaHello flocculant !17:43
pavlushkaHello davmor2!17:43
pavlushkaI filed a bug #1567516 that hasn't been confirmed and hasn't marked duplicate but that is fixed now as I am not experiencing now after update17:45
ubottubug 1567516 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "The default indicators set has a blank button." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156751617:45
pavlushkaI've even added a sceenshot as a visual proof.17:46
flocculantso it's not a bug? 17:49
pavlushkamight be it was good to discuss every bug about 16.04 here so that you can confirm, it happened once.17:49
pavlushkathat you confirmed parole bug.17:50
pavlushkaflocculant: I dont know, you tell me.17:50
flocculant...17:51
flocculantpavlushka: YOU said "I am not experiencing now after update"17:51
pavlushkayes17:51
flocculantok - so if you aren't seeing it after an update in a dev version then we can mark it invalid or something17:53
pavlushkaif you think it should be , then you must, you guys are dev.17:54
pavlushkaI have no opinion but kinda confused.17:55
flocculantpavlushka: not sure what's confusing17:56
flocculantyou said something was a bug - then you don't see it 17:56
flocculantif it's been fixed because of an update - good17:57
flocculantbut you can't add what's fixed it17:57
flocculantwe can mark it as not a bug 17:57
pavlushkayes, and ok , on your words.17:57
flocculantor just ignore it and in time it will get marked (can't remember how off hand) 17:58
flocculantso I think what I'm going to do is just ignore it - even if it IS a bug - it's not something that Xubuntu has control over - so we would have to wait for someone else to deal with it17:59
pavlushkaflocculant: if you think so. but next time I must knock about bug here,18:01
flocculantpavlushka: if it's something we can help with yes 18:01
pavlushkawell, that is to find out.18:01
flocculantnot every package that Xubuntu includes is something that the Xubuntu team is involved in18:02
flocculantin fact most are not18:02
pavlushkahmm, copy.18:02
flocculant<pavlushka> might be it was good to discuss every bug about 16.04 here so that you can confirm, it happened once.18:02
flocculant^^ for instance isn't the case completely18:02
flocculantI get bugs with things I use - if it is not something that is under our control - I take it elsewhere18:03
pavlushkaflocculant: sorry, you are getting over my head, I am to much stupid to understand that.18:04
pavlushka*too much18:04
flocculantpavlushka: ok I'll try and simplify what I mean by that18:04
flocculantI report bugs in things like clementine and hexchat - I don't talk about them here - we have no control and no interest as a team18:05
flocculantsome things like gnome software - we use - we don't fix - so I go talk about them where they *can* be18:05
flocculantdoes that make sense? 18:06
Unit193Things still on my list: Indicators using massive amounts of CPU, ubiquity crashing.18:06
flocculantreally? 18:06
pavlushkaYes flocculant , I am sure about hexchat and there is a #hexchat for that but when I am not sure, may be you people can make me sure.18:06
flocculantUnit193: ind's that is ? 18:07
flocculantpavlushka: then perhaps if you're not sure - ask in -offtopic if it's something we're interested in first :)18:07
Unit193flocculant: Not made much comment on it because it's only reproduced on one Xenial install, so just stopped using indicators there and shruged.18:08
flocculant:)18:08
flocculantnot noticed anything like that - or reports 18:08
pavlushkaflocculant: copy that. but once you and knome told me that it should be asked here first too and then if it's offtopic, we will move there.18:08
flocculantI've changed my mind18:09
pavlushkalol, ok18:09
flocculantpavlushka: between now and next Thursday I am going to be interested in pretty much one thing only18:10
flocculanttesting iso's18:10
pavlushkaI've seen your mail.18:10
Unit193flocculant: Yeah, with the sound indicator or pulseaudio it's far worse, but xfce4-indicator-plugin is bad enough by itself.  Anywho, only seen it in one of 3 Xenial installs, so filed it under voodoo.18:11
flocculant\o/18:11
pavlushka^18:11
flocculantdefinitely not seen anything like that with pa indicator18:12
pavlushkaand Hi Unit193 !18:12
Unit193Hallo.18:12
pavlushkaola!18:12
flocculantpavlushka: this is a good case - pulse audio control - we use that - we do some things with it - but I have a bug where a webcam interferes with it - when you have the specific sound card I have - so I took that bug upstream 18:14
pavlushkaflocculant: can you tell me a little more about "when you have the specific sound card I have - so I took that bug upstream"?18:16
flocculantI had a bug, you'd see it if you had a webcam plugged in with usb AND the soundcard I have - different soundcard - no bug - so  I reported it upstream, where someone looked, confirmed it, eventually the fix will land there - and because it's upstream everyone will get the benefit18:17
pavlushkaflocculant: sorry for the bother, what do you mean by upstream, tell me once and I will never ask you again.18:19
flocculantxfce is upstream to xubuntu18:19
flocculantdebian is upstream to ubuntu 18:19
flocculantand us via us being based on ubuntu18:19
flocculantsih18:19
flocculantish18:19
pavlushkawow, I didn't know that,18:20
flocculantso I went and reported the bug somewhere else18:20
flocculantthat'll have to do now - I'm in the middle of a bunch of other stuff18:21
pavlushkahmm, copy that, I've seen your bug conversation about hexchat though.18:22
flocculantknome: worked a bit on the wallpaper pad thingy18:41
Nairwolfhi everyone, hi flocculant ;) Thank you for your answer and your patience ;)19:23
flocculanthi Nairwolf 19:24
NairwolfI hope the release will be good. 19:26
NairwolfAfter the final release, I will try the upgrade for myself with a backup computer by cloning my actual configuration (I have some ppa), and if it works, I will do it for my 'real used' computer. I've understood that upgrading tests isn't for now, but I will notice you the result. 19:27
NairwolfFor this week, I should be able to test some isos. 19:28
flocculantNairwolf: generally the upgrade isn't offered immediately, so nice to get upgrade tests, but iso testing is more important right now19:28
NairwolfYes, I understand perfectly. And as I said, it's for my personal use case, and I will do it *after* the release. Iso testing will be my concern also this week ;)19:31
NairwolfI've discovered Xubuntu (and linux world) with 14.04 two years ago, that's why I'm asking so much question about upgrade, because it will be the first time I will do that, and the first time I'm waiting a LTS release. 19:32
flocculant:)19:39
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slickymasterbluesabre, just noticed today that https://translations.launchpad.net/xfpanel-switch wasn't yet translated into pt20:41
slickymasterit is now ;)20:41
knomepleia2, helllooo20:55
knomepleia2, social media time20:56
knomepleia2, https://xubuntu.org/news/my-media-manager-cloud/ is out20:56
knome^ thanks for all contributing20:57
pleia2k20:57
knomepleia2, and thanks for enduring with me20:58
pleia2knome: thanks for doing all the work, sorry I'm so snowed under over here20:58
knomeno problem20:58
knomeeasy now that most of the stuff is written20:58
knome(and i can log in to wordpress sites)20:59
pleia2g+ and fb done20:59
knomethanks20:59
pleia2oh good, logins are working again20:59
knomeyeah, looks like they are20:59
pleia2was having trouble with fridge last night20:59
knomeno problems today morning or evening20:59
pleia2great21:00
knomeso21:00
knomeone more article tomorrow21:00
knomethen thursday is free from articles21:00
knomethen another on friday21:00
knomeand the final one on tuesday21:00
knomefor these series, that is21:01
knomeof course we need other stuff21:01
pleia2woo21:02
Unit193cyphermox: I don't suppose LP 1549085 and https://bitbucket.org/snippets/unit193/ERyrq/ubiquity-crash are one and the same, are they?  That'd be pretty handy, though they crash at different plugins. :P21:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1549085 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 16.04 daily Feb 23 ubiquity return 1 after choosing locale (zh_CN) & prompt for keyboard settings , then crash" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154908521:23
knomebluesabre, in xenial, which wallpapers are installed by default?22:07
knomenew contest winners and our own stuff22:07
knomeor old contest winners too?22:07
bluesabreknome: just the old for new installs, both for old installs22:08
bluesabreer22:08
bluesabrejust the new22:08
knome:D22:08
bluesabre:D22:08
knomeoki22:08
slickymasterbluesabre → http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/12/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t20:4122:09
bluesabreslickymaster: yeah, missed it, and translation deadline is now gone22:10
knomeslickymaster, ahahahahah!22:10
slickymastermy fault anyway22:10
knomeslickymaster, add that to the wiki so you'll remember next time22:10
slickymasterjust noticed it today22:11
slickymasterok22:11
krytarikbluesabre: That doesn't mean you can't upload it still though.22:16

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