[07:27] <flocculant> ATTN: Xubuntu Core 16.04 - amd64 - installer crashed
[07:28] <flocculant> Unit193: I'll keep trying when they turn up :)
[07:29] <flocculant> knome: ack re articles - glad you've managed to login in at least once :)
[07:30] <Unit193> Bah, well thanks for trying at least.
[08:37] <knome> was able to log in on the first try now as well..
[08:41] <knome> ...and second time
[11:26] <bluesabre> Unit193: if you want to play with breaks/replaces, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1569281
[11:26] <bluesabre> my quick attempts this morning have failed, but I'm probably just missing something small
[12:19] <flocculant> like a 64px icon :p
[12:31] <flocculant> knome: meh - stupid mailman message size - got a message in moderation 
[12:31] <flocculant> or anyone else who happens to have the key to the cupboard :p
[12:32] <Unit193> flocculant: You want to re-send without the image?  I can allow if not.
[12:33] <flocculant> guess so :p
[12:33] <flocculant> stupid mailman ... 
[12:34] <flocculant> Unit193: delete the one that's too big for mailman but ok for elsewhere :D
[12:34] <flocculant> thanks 
[12:34] <Unit193> Wilco.
[12:34] <flocculant> Johnson
[15:53] <pleia2> flocculant: put the RC testing request on g+/fb/twitter
[16:30] <flocculant> pleia2: thanks :)
[16:31] <pleia2> thanks for all your work tracking this all through the cycle, I know how tedious this job is, but important for keeping us all on track
[16:35] <flocculant> I don't often feel like you're all children who need the naughty step - so everything seems to be working :p
[17:25] <Nairwolf> hi guys, how are you ? I would like to ask you if the xubuntu wiki on wiki.ubuntu.com will be dropped and replaced by wiki.xubuntu.org ? 
[17:25] <Nairwolf> Or will you use both in the same time ? 
[17:30] <pleia2> we've moved the content we can to wiki.xubuntu.org, we likely won't delete the one on wiki.u.c completely since a lot of thinks link there
[17:30] <pleia2> afaik we still can't move the meeting agenda because we use includes there that we haven't quite sorted out on w.x.o
[17:31] <pleia2> s/thinks/things
[17:31] <Unit193> Also the output from meetingology doesn't work directly.
[17:31] <pleia2> yeah, it's in moin syntax, not doku
[17:34] <Nairwolf> ok, so you will still use both, but you will try to use w.x.o in most of cases ? Okay, nice ! 
[17:35] <Unit193> Isn't Doku close to Mediawiki?  It's already got one for that.
[17:37] <pleia2> Unit193: they're all close ;)
[17:37] <Unit193> Well... Real close then. :P
[17:42] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[17:42] <davmor2> pavlushka: hello
[17:42] <flocculant> davmor2: !!!
[17:42] <flocculant> hi :p
[17:43] <flocculant> hello pavlushka 
[17:43] <pavlushka> Hello flocculant !
[17:43] <pavlushka> Hello davmor2!
[17:45] <pavlushka> I filed a bug #1567516 that hasn't been confirmed and hasn't marked duplicate but that is fixed now as I am not experiencing now after update
[17:46] <pavlushka> I've even added a sceenshot as a visual proof.
[17:49] <flocculant> so it's not a bug? 
[17:49] <pavlushka> might be it was good to discuss every bug about 16.04 here so that you can confirm, it happened once.
[17:50] <pavlushka> that you confirmed parole bug.
[17:50] <pavlushka> flocculant: I dont know, you tell me.
[17:51] <flocculant> ...
[17:51] <flocculant> pavlushka: YOU said "I am not experiencing now after update"
[17:51] <pavlushka> yes
[17:53] <flocculant> ok - so if you aren't seeing it after an update in a dev version then we can mark it invalid or something
[17:54] <pavlushka> if you think it should be , then you must, you guys are dev.
[17:55] <pavlushka> I have no opinion but kinda confused.
[17:56] <flocculant> pavlushka: not sure what's confusing
[17:56] <flocculant> you said something was a bug - then you don't see it 
[17:57] <flocculant> if it's been fixed because of an update - good
[17:57] <flocculant> but you can't add what's fixed it
[17:57] <flocculant> we can mark it as not a bug 
[17:57] <pavlushka> yes, and ok , on your words.
[17:58] <flocculant> or just ignore it and in time it will get marked (can't remember how off hand) 
[17:59] <flocculant> so I think what I'm going to do is just ignore it - even if it IS a bug - it's not something that Xubuntu has control over - so we would have to wait for someone else to deal with it
[18:01] <pavlushka> flocculant: if you think so. but next time I must knock about bug here,
[18:01] <flocculant> pavlushka: if it's something we can help with yes 
[18:01] <pavlushka> well, that is to find out.
[18:02] <flocculant> not every package that Xubuntu includes is something that the Xubuntu team is involved in
[18:02] <flocculant> in fact most are not
[18:02] <pavlushka> hmm, copy.
 might be it was good to discuss every bug about 16.04 here so that you can confirm, it happened once.
[18:02] <flocculant> ^^ for instance isn't the case completely
[18:03] <flocculant> I get bugs with things I use - if it is not something that is under our control - I take it elsewhere
[18:04] <pavlushka> flocculant: sorry, you are getting over my head, I am to much stupid to understand that.
[18:04] <pavlushka> *too much
[18:04] <flocculant> pavlushka: ok I'll try and simplify what I mean by that
[18:05] <flocculant> I report bugs in things like clementine and hexchat - I don't talk about them here - we have no control and no interest as a team
[18:05] <flocculant> some things like gnome software - we use - we don't fix - so I go talk about them where they *can* be
[18:06] <flocculant> does that make sense? 
[18:06] <Unit193> Things still on my list: Indicators using massive amounts of CPU, ubiquity crashing.
[18:06] <flocculant> really? 
[18:06] <pavlushka> Yes flocculant , I am sure about hexchat and there is a #hexchat for that but when I am not sure, may be you people can make me sure.
[18:07] <flocculant> Unit193: ind's that is ? 
[18:07] <flocculant> pavlushka: then perhaps if you're not sure - ask in -offtopic if it's something we're interested in first :)
[18:08] <Unit193> flocculant: Not made much comment on it because it's only reproduced on one Xenial install, so just stopped using indicators there and shruged.
[18:08] <flocculant> :)
[18:08] <flocculant> not noticed anything like that - or reports 
[18:08] <pavlushka> flocculant: copy that. but once you and knome told me that it should be asked here first too and then if it's offtopic, we will move there.
[18:09] <flocculant> I've changed my mind
[18:09] <pavlushka> lol, ok
[18:10] <flocculant> pavlushka: between now and next Thursday I am going to be interested in pretty much one thing only
[18:10] <flocculant> testing iso's
[18:10] <pavlushka> I've seen your mail.
[18:11] <Unit193> flocculant: Yeah, with the sound indicator or pulseaudio it's far worse, but xfce4-indicator-plugin is bad enough by itself.  Anywho, only seen it in one of 3 Xenial installs, so filed it under voodoo.
[18:11] <flocculant> \o/
[18:11] <pavlushka> ^
[18:12] <flocculant> definitely not seen anything like that with pa indicator
[18:12] <pavlushka> and Hi Unit193 !
[18:12] <Unit193> Hallo.
[18:12] <pavlushka> ola!
[18:14] <flocculant> pavlushka: this is a good case - pulse audio control - we use that - we do some things with it - but I have a bug where a webcam interferes with it - when you have the specific sound card I have - so I took that bug upstream 
[18:16] <pavlushka> flocculant: can you tell me a little more about "when you have the specific sound card I have - so I took that bug upstream"?
[18:17] <flocculant> I had a bug, you'd see it if you had a webcam plugged in with usb AND the soundcard I have - different soundcard - no bug - so  I reported it upstream, where someone looked, confirmed it, eventually the fix will land there - and because it's upstream everyone will get the benefit
[18:19] <pavlushka> flocculant: sorry for the bother, what do you mean by upstream, tell me once and I will never ask you again.
[18:19] <flocculant> xfce is upstream to xubuntu
[18:19] <flocculant> debian is upstream to ubuntu 
[18:19] <flocculant> and us via us being based on ubuntu
[18:19] <flocculant> sih
[18:19] <flocculant> ish
[18:20] <pavlushka> wow, I didn't know that,
[18:20] <flocculant> so I went and reported the bug somewhere else
[18:21] <flocculant> that'll have to do now - I'm in the middle of a bunch of other stuff
[18:22] <pavlushka> hmm, copy that, I've seen your bug conversation about hexchat though.
[18:41] <flocculant> knome: worked a bit on the wallpaper pad thingy
[19:23] <Nairwolf> hi everyone, hi flocculant ;) Thank you for your answer and your patience ;)
[19:24] <flocculant> hi Nairwolf 
[19:26] <Nairwolf> I hope the release will be good. 
[19:27] <Nairwolf> After the final release, I will try the upgrade for myself with a backup computer by cloning my actual configuration (I have some ppa), and if it works, I will do it for my 'real used' computer. I've understood that upgrading tests isn't for now, but I will notice you the result. 
[19:28] <Nairwolf> For this week, I should be able to test some isos. 
[19:28] <flocculant> Nairwolf: generally the upgrade isn't offered immediately, so nice to get upgrade tests, but iso testing is more important right now
[19:31] <Nairwolf> Yes, I understand perfectly. And as I said, it's for my personal use case, and I will do it *after* the release. Iso testing will be my concern also this week ;)
[19:32] <Nairwolf> I've discovered Xubuntu (and linux world) with 14.04 two years ago, that's why I'm asking so much question about upgrade, because it will be the first time I will do that, and the first time I'm waiting a LTS release. 
[19:39] <flocculant> :)
[20:41] <slickymaster> bluesabre, just noticed today that https://translations.launchpad.net/xfpanel-switch wasn't yet translated into pt
[20:41] <slickymaster> it is now ;)
[20:55] <knome> pleia2, helllooo
[20:56] <knome> pleia2, social media time
[20:56] <knome> pleia2, https://xubuntu.org/news/my-media-manager-cloud/ is out
[20:57] <knome> ^ thanks for all contributing
[20:57] <pleia2> k
[20:58] <knome> pleia2, and thanks for enduring with me
[20:58] <pleia2> knome: thanks for doing all the work, sorry I'm so snowed under over here
[20:58] <knome> no problem
[20:58] <knome> easy now that most of the stuff is written
[20:59] <knome> (and i can log in to wordpress sites)
[20:59] <pleia2> g+ and fb done
[20:59] <knome> thanks
[20:59] <pleia2> oh good, logins are working again
[20:59] <knome> yeah, looks like they are
[20:59] <pleia2> was having trouble with fridge last night
[20:59] <knome> no problems today morning or evening
[21:00] <pleia2> great
[21:00] <knome> so
[21:00] <knome> one more article tomorrow
[21:00] <knome> then thursday is free from articles
[21:00] <knome> then another on friday
[21:00] <knome> and the final one on tuesday
[21:01] <knome> for these series, that is
[21:01] <knome> of course we need other stuff
[21:02] <pleia2> woo
[21:23] <Unit193> cyphermox: I don't suppose LP 1549085 and https://bitbucket.org/snippets/unit193/ERyrq/ubiquity-crash are one and the same, are they?  That'd be pretty handy, though they crash at different plugins. :P
[22:07] <knome> bluesabre, in xenial, which wallpapers are installed by default?
[22:07] <knome> new contest winners and our own stuff
[22:07] <knome> or old contest winners too?
[22:08] <bluesabre> knome: just the old for new installs, both for old installs
[22:08] <bluesabre> er
[22:08] <bluesabre> just the new
[22:08] <knome> :D
[22:08] <bluesabre> :D
[22:08] <knome> oki
[22:09] <slickymaster> bluesabre → http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/12/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t20:41
[22:10] <bluesabre> slickymaster: yeah, missed it, and translation deadline is now gone
[22:10] <knome> slickymaster, ahahahahah!
[22:10] <slickymaster> my fault anyway
[22:10] <knome> slickymaster, add that to the wiki so you'll remember next time
[22:11] <slickymaster> just noticed it today
[22:11] <slickymaster> ok
[22:16] <krytarik> bluesabre: That doesn't mean you can't upload it still though.