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hikikoHi05:00
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pittiGood morning06:08
Laneymeow08:12
* pitti throws a ball of wool to Laney08:18
pittigood morning, how are you?08:18
Laneyoh pitti, you know just what I like!08:19
Laneynot bad08:19
Laneyenjoying reimplementing half of packagekit inside gnome-software :P08:19
Laneybut it is sunny today for once!08:21
Laneypitti: how are you?08:21
pittiLaney: really well too, thanks! enjoying the spring08:21
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Laneythe trees that I planted back in January are now clearly alive08:24
Laneyone of them has some flowers even08:24
pittioh, nice08:24
pittiwe did a big round of gardening two weeks ago too, and everything is in full bloom now, really nice08:24
Laney\o/08:24
Laneynot quite there yet here08:24
* Laney is excited to get to the new allotment for the first time at the weekend08:25
xnox /o\08:25
* Laney nods xnox08:27
Laneywhat up G08:27
xnoxLaney, you gardening - it must be all that free time after leaving dmb =)08:27
Laneyoh man08:29
Laneythat feels good!08:29
Laney...and reminds me to go vote for the TB08:29
pitti... for the French mafia?08:29
pittisuspiciously, neither didrocks nor seb128 are here08:30
Laneyhitting the campaign trail hard08:30
* Laney just saw Didier's battle bus drive past08:30
pittihaha, I already see them plastering the internet with virtual cardboard08:30
Laneyxnox: I saw George Galloway's battle bus when I was in London last week :D08:32
Laneydidn't know he was even running08:32
Laneybut there he was standing on the top and yelling into the street08:32
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jcastroTrevinho: thanks for those PRs, you've made my desktop a better place.11:45
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ksamakTrevinho: i just wanted to enquire as to that potential 0.9.12.3 release for compiz? i tough this would only take a week at best12:07
ksamakcause we're looking forward to re-integration in debian! ;-)12:07
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ksamakhikiko: hey.12:54
ksamakremember i told you about a potential bug with compiz ezoom plugin>?12:54
ksamaki'm reproducing that on a base ubuntu mate 15.10 with stock compiz 0.9.12.212:55
ksamakwhen using focus tracking (follow_focus), one can put the mouse at a 1st place, switch windows. at that point, mouse warps to center of newly switched window, so 2nd place. But as soon as the mouse moves again through user input, 1st place is restored, and zoom area moves to 1st place again...12:57
Trevinhojcastro: eheh, no problem.13:00
Trevinhoksamak: I wanted to do that once Xenial was done. Do you need that before?13:00
hikikoksamak, does this happen on mate only?13:01
ksamakTrevinho: well, this change would be nice for stretch, so we don't have to wait two more years for it to be in debian stable.13:02
ksamakso we'd like to forward the process as soon as possible13:02
hikikoI try to reproduce it on unity and I can't13:02
ksamakhikiko: i guess you're using ezoom as well in unity.13:02
ksamakhikiko: could it be an X setting somehow different?13:03
ksamakor linked to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/792598 ?13:03
ubot5`Launchpad bug 792598 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "XWarpPointer sends wrong raw mouse input event - jumping mouse when XInput2 in use" [High,Fix released]13:03
ksamakTrevinho: we'd also like to push in mate-accessibility, a package to configure settings for impaired people. a bit like accessiblity profiles for gsettings, but wider.13:04
ksamakso that requires compiz to be in as well.13:04
ksamakhikiko: i'm gonna try that on unity13:06
hikikoksamak, no worries I'll install mate too13:07
hikikojust later13:07
* willcooke goes to look for bacon 13:14
ksamakhikiko: i think i've got a driver problem, about syncing the mouse guest in a VM, and the host... thx virtualbox13:19
ksamaki'll try a real one13:19
Trevinhoksamak: I see the follow mouse issuet... It could be ezoom related. Yes. Probably it keeps the pointerX/Y pos somewhere without being notified of her warp change13:19
ksamaki'll test that, maybe i just fucked up with some driver in a VM13:20
hikikoif Trevinho has the same problem then it's me that can't reproduce13:20
hikikoI'm going to test later ksamak because now my ezoom is broken13:21
hikikoI'm adding a feature13:21
hikiko(that won't affect your code no worries)13:21
ksamakhikiko: no problem lol13:23
ksamakhikiko: have fun with features13:23
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Trevinhoksamak: mh, I can't reproduce that issue anymore though :o14:13
Trevinhoksamak: did you also enable something like focus follows mouse in general options?14:13
ksamakTrevinho: i've tested on a non-VM computer. i can't reproduce either. so i did a python program to mouse the mouse without touching my host mouse.14:16
ksamakand... turns out it's my host -> VM input which screwed the test14:16
ksamaksorry guys...14:17
ksamakhikiko:14:17
hikikono worries ksamak :)14:17
hikikomaybe the vm is confused by the real mouse position14:18
hikikothe mouse integration is not so good14:18
ksamakhikiko: i think the host forces the position in absolute, so whatever the warped pos, it always follows the host's pos.14:22
hikikocould be14:22
Trevinhook, late HUD change about to be published...14:37
seb128good morning desktopers14:38
Trevinhohi seb12814:38
seb128hey Trevinho, how are things going?14:38
Trevinhoseb128: ok... the rush for the final HUD change is done, you?14:39
seb128I'm good, in SLC for some days, managed to sleep until 7h45 ;-)14:39
Trevinhoseb128: ah, got fever?14:40
seb128fever?14:40
seb128SLC=Salt Lake City14:40
Trevinhoseb128: ah, I was unsure whether it was that or Sick Leave Certificate :-D14:41
Trevinhoseb128: but yeah I knew there was a meeting there...14:41
seb128lol, no, feeling well ;-)14:41
Trevinhoseb128: ok nice... Then I guess you'll have to share something with us at the sprint14:42
seb128hope so, let's see14:42
Trevinhohi willcooke14:43
willcookehi Trevinho14:48
Trevinhowillcooke: FYI the hud stuff is landing... :)14:49
willcookeTrevinho, \o/ thanks14:49
Trevinhoandyrock did a great job14:50
pittihey seb128! oh, what kind of sprint are you on now?15:24
xclaesseseb128, Nautilus on 16.04, when you're on a remote location (sftp://) and press delete it won't do anything15:30
xclaesseseb128, you have to press shift-delete15:30
xclaessebecause it can't move to trash when on remote location15:31
xclaessebut there is not indication at all...15:31
xclaesseafaik, it was working on previous ubuntu releases15:31
seb128pitti, UES planning15:36
pittiseb128: oh argh15:36
seb128xclaesse, I would need to look at that, could be gvfs/glib15:37
seb128I remember seeing commits about that but I'm not unsure it was not in the new nautilus15:37
seb128which we didn't take15:37
xclaesseseb128, sounds more like a UI stuff, the old ctr-delete crap from upstream, no?15:38
seb128could be15:38
seb128xclaesse, I think it's https://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs/commit/?id=1a4e823966e31f72eedfec536cb150c629e126a715:39
seb128https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75393415:39
ubot5`Gnome bug 753934 in daemon "Files are not marked as untrashable" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]15:39
xclaesseseb128, yep, if file can't be trashed, delete key should popup a dialog saying it's going to permanently delete it15:39
xclaesseI'm pretty sure it was doing that in 15.1015:40
seb12815.10 wasn't flagging sftp files as undeletable though15:40
seb128or that's what that commit suggest no?15:40
seb128but yeah, it's a bug15:41
xclaesseseb128, tested on 15.10, it says: "Impossible de mettre « monbeaufichiertest » à la corbeille. Voulez-vous le supprimer immédiatement ?"15:42
seb128xclaesse, k, then we probably need to adapt nautilus to the gvfs change15:49
seb128or reverse the gvfs commit15:49
seb128https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=89a11adc55d8bcf9ba01243c7f5f177398e5f58215:50
seb128something like that?15:50
seb128well the code change but in spirit15:50
seb128no gaction in our version15:50
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seb128Trevinho, unsure if that was an issue before, I think I notice because I changed my bg to a white one ... when you maximize a win on xenial there is some gap between the launcher and the window17:44
seb128it's quite visible white a white bg because it makes a visible gap next the to the decoration/toolbar17:44
seb128Trevinho, http://imgur.com/3Zr6BEh17:50
Trevinhoseb128: yeha, it's by design...19:35
Trevinhoseb128: it should be 1px19:36
seb128ok19:36
seb128it just looks weird in the top because it's only visible next to the toolbar19:36
seb128oh well19:36
seb128not so of an issue with the default background/most images19:36
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TheMusoOk what the actual hell? Alt plus semicolon for window actions menu?20:57
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seb128TheMuso, that's a changelog error, it's on super-alt21:00
TheMusoOk, but why the change?21:01
TheMusoI get that the hud keystroke has been changed, but to change a common convention shared between so many desktop environemnts/OSs?21:01
seb128TheMuso, I think their rational is that windows actions are on super21:02
TheMusoOk makes sense. I personally consider any window resize/movement actions to be suitable to use with super, but menus are accessed with the alt key, so its only logical that the actions menu is the same IMO.21:03
TheMusoAnyways, I'll just change it for myself.21:03
seb128yeah, could make sense as, can you comment on the bug to say that?21:03
seb128well it's blocked by the release team atm21:03
TheMusoSure.21:03
seb128thanks21:03
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Mitsos101How can I use umake in a shell script (without waiting for user input)?21:31
sarnoldwhat's it prompting for? maybe you can pre-feed it, echo "hello" | umake  or whtaaever21:32
Mitsos101It's the license agreement for VSCode, I'm trying to install it automatically for Docker21:33
Laneydesrt: if you're planning a glib 2.48.1, would be good to have soon ;-)21:46
Laneyso I can slide it in before xenial becomes 16.0421:46
jdstrandseb128, qengho: fyi, bug #157011121:52
ubot5`bug 1570111 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "many seccomp denials for set_robust_list in xenial" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157011121:52
seb128Laney, hey21:53
seb128Laney, do you plan to update gvfs to the stable version?21:53
seb128oh, we also didn't update glib-networking21:54
seb128unsure if that should follows glib or if it's fine to have them off by one serie21:54
seb128jdstrand, thanks22:00
seb128qengho, can you have a look to that?22:00
Laneyseb128: if I get time22:08
Laneyand it's fine yes, but you could sync it22:08
Laneythere weren't many changes22:08
seb128k, I didn't look at it22:10
seb128maybe if I can manage to get some more hack time in between meetings22:10
seb128otherwise on monday once I'm back to a proper computer22:10
qenghojdstrand: ah, thanks. Consider it fixed.22:16
furkanam i still the only one here with ubuntu 16.04 who's missing shadows on windows of gtk applications?22:26
furkanit was working fine until an update broke it (no idea which one)22:26

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