[05:00] <hikiko> Hi
[06:08] <pitti> Good morning
[08:12] <Laney> meow
[08:18]  * pitti throws a ball of wool to Laney
[08:18] <pitti> good morning, how are you?
[08:19] <Laney> oh pitti, you know just what I like!
[08:19] <Laney> not bad
[08:19] <Laney> enjoying reimplementing half of packagekit inside gnome-software :P
[08:21] <Laney> but it is sunny today for once!
[08:21] <Laney> pitti: how are you?
[08:21] <pitti> Laney: really well too, thanks! enjoying the spring
[08:24] <Laney> the trees that I planted back in January are now clearly alive
[08:24] <Laney> one of them has some flowers even
[08:24] <pitti> oh, nice
[08:24] <pitti> we did a big round of gardening two weeks ago too, and everything is in full bloom now, really nice
[08:24] <Laney> \o/
[08:24] <Laney> not quite there yet here
[08:25]  * Laney is excited to get to the new allotment for the first time at the weekend
[08:25] <xnox>  /o\
[08:27]  * Laney nods xnox
[08:27] <Laney> what up G
[08:27] <xnox> Laney, you gardening - it must be all that free time after leaving dmb =)
[08:29] <Laney> oh man
[08:29] <Laney> that feels good!
[08:29] <Laney> ...and reminds me to go vote for the TB
[08:29] <pitti> ... for the French mafia?
[08:30] <pitti> suspiciously, neither didrocks nor seb128 are here
[08:30] <Laney> hitting the campaign trail hard
[08:30]  * Laney just saw Didier's battle bus drive past
[08:30] <pitti> haha, I already see them plastering the internet with virtual cardboard
[08:32] <Laney> xnox: I saw George Galloway's battle bus when I was in London last week :D
[08:32] <Laney> didn't know he was even running
[08:32] <Laney> but there he was standing on the top and yelling into the street
[11:45] <jcastro> Trevinho: thanks for those PRs, you've made my desktop a better place.
[12:07] <ksamak> Trevinho: i just wanted to enquire as to that potential 0.9.12.3 release for compiz? i tough this would only take a week at best
[12:07] <ksamak> cause we're looking forward to re-integration in debian! ;-)
[12:54] <ksamak> hikiko: hey.
[12:54] <ksamak> remember i told you about a potential bug with compiz ezoom plugin>?
[12:55] <ksamak> i'm reproducing that on a base ubuntu mate 15.10 with stock compiz 0.9.12.2
[12:57] <ksamak> when using focus tracking (follow_focus), one can put the mouse at a 1st place, switch windows. at that point, mouse warps to center of newly switched window, so 2nd place. But as soon as the mouse moves again through user input, 1st place is restored, and zoom area moves to 1st place again...
[13:00] <Trevinho> jcastro: eheh, no problem.
[13:00] <Trevinho> ksamak: I wanted to do that once Xenial was done. Do you need that before?
[13:01] <hikiko> ksamak, does this happen on mate only?
[13:02] <ksamak> Trevinho: well, this change would be nice for stretch, so we don't have to wait two more years for it to be in debian stable.
[13:02] <ksamak> so we'd like to forward the process as soon as possible
[13:02] <hikiko> I try to reproduce it on unity and I can't
[13:02] <ksamak> hikiko: i guess you're using ezoom as well in unity.
[13:03] <ksamak> hikiko: could it be an X setting somehow different?
[13:03] <ksamak> or linked to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/792598 ?
[13:03] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 792598 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "XWarpPointer sends wrong raw mouse input event - jumping mouse when XInput2 in use" [High,Fix released]
[13:04] <ksamak> Trevinho: we'd also like to push in mate-accessibility, a package to configure settings for impaired people. a bit like accessiblity profiles for gsettings, but wider.
[13:04] <ksamak> so that requires compiz to be in as well.
[13:06] <ksamak> hikiko: i'm gonna try that on unity
[13:07] <hikiko> ksamak, no worries I'll install mate too
[13:07] <hikiko> just later
[13:14]  * willcooke goes to look for bacon 
[13:19] <ksamak> hikiko: i think i've got a driver problem, about syncing the mouse guest in a VM, and the host... thx virtualbox
[13:19] <ksamak> i'll try a real one
[13:19] <Trevinho> ksamak: I see the follow mouse issuet... It could be ezoom related. Yes. Probably it keeps the pointerX/Y pos somewhere without being notified of her warp change
[13:20] <ksamak> i'll test that, maybe i just fucked up with some driver in a VM
[13:20] <hikiko> if Trevinho has the same problem then it's me that can't reproduce
[13:21] <hikiko> I'm going to test later ksamak because now my ezoom is broken
[13:21] <hikiko> I'm adding a feature
[13:21] <hikiko> (that won't affect your code no worries)
[13:23] <ksamak> hikiko: no problem lol
[13:23] <ksamak> hikiko: have fun with features
[14:13] <Trevinho> ksamak: mh, I can't reproduce that issue anymore though :o
[14:13] <Trevinho> ksamak: did you also enable something like focus follows mouse in general options?
[14:16] <ksamak> Trevinho: i've tested on a non-VM computer. i can't reproduce either. so i did a python program to mouse the mouse without touching my host mouse.
[14:16] <ksamak> and... turns out it's my host -> VM input which screwed the test
[14:17] <ksamak> sorry guys...
[14:17] <ksamak> hikiko:
[14:17] <hikiko> no worries ksamak :)
[14:18] <hikiko> maybe the vm is confused by the real mouse position
[14:18] <hikiko> the mouse integration is not so good
[14:22] <ksamak> hikiko: i think the host forces the position in absolute, so whatever the warped pos, it always follows the host's pos.
[14:22] <hikiko> could be
[14:37] <Trevinho> ok, late HUD change about to be published...
[14:38] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[14:38] <Trevinho> hi seb128
[14:38] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are things going?
[14:39] <Trevinho> seb128: ok... the rush for the final HUD change is done, you?
[14:39] <seb128> I'm good, in SLC for some days, managed to sleep until 7h45 ;-)
[14:40] <Trevinho> seb128: ah, got fever?
[14:40] <seb128> fever?
[14:40] <seb128> SLC=Salt Lake City
[14:41] <Trevinho> seb128: ah, I was unsure whether it was that or Sick Leave Certificate :-D
[14:41] <Trevinho> seb128: but yeah I knew there was a meeting there...
[14:41] <seb128> lol, no, feeling well ;-)
[14:42] <Trevinho> seb128: ok nice... Then I guess you'll have to share something with us at the sprint
[14:42] <seb128> hope so, let's see
[14:43] <Trevinho> hi willcooke
[14:48] <willcooke> hi Trevinho
[14:49] <Trevinho> willcooke: FYI the hud stuff is landing... :)
[14:49] <willcooke> Trevinho, \o/ thanks
[14:50] <Trevinho> andyrock did a great job
[15:24] <pitti> hey seb128! oh, what kind of sprint are you on now?
[15:30] <xclaesse> seb128, Nautilus on 16.04, when you're on a remote location (sftp://) and press delete it won't do anything
[15:30] <xclaesse> seb128, you have to press shift-delete
[15:31] <xclaesse> because it can't move to trash when on remote location
[15:31] <xclaesse> but there is not indication at all...
[15:31] <xclaesse> afaik, it was working on previous ubuntu releases
[15:36] <seb128> pitti, UES planning
[15:36] <pitti> seb128: oh argh
[15:37] <seb128> xclaesse, I would need to look at that, could be gvfs/glib
[15:37] <seb128> I remember seeing commits about that but I'm not unsure it was not in the new nautilus
[15:37] <seb128> which we didn't take
[15:38] <xclaesse> seb128, sounds more like a UI stuff, the old ctr-delete crap from upstream, no?
[15:38] <seb128> could be
[15:39] <seb128> xclaesse, I think it's https://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs/commit/?id=1a4e823966e31f72eedfec536cb150c629e126a7
[15:39] <seb128> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753934
[15:39] <ubot5`> Gnome bug 753934 in daemon "Files are not marked as untrashable" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[15:39] <xclaesse> seb128, yep, if file can't be trashed, delete key should popup a dialog saying it's going to permanently delete it
[15:40] <xclaesse> I'm pretty sure it was doing that in 15.10
[15:40] <seb128> 15.10 wasn't flagging sftp files as undeletable though
[15:40] <seb128> or that's what that commit suggest no?
[15:41] <seb128> but yeah, it's a bug
[15:42] <xclaesse> seb128, tested on 15.10, it says: "Impossible de mettre « monbeaufichiertest » à la corbeille. Voulez-vous le supprimer immédiatement ?"
[15:49] <seb128> xclaesse, k, then we probably need to adapt nautilus to the gvfs change
[15:49] <seb128> or reverse the gvfs commit
[15:50] <seb128> https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=89a11adc55d8bcf9ba01243c7f5f177398e5f582
[15:50] <seb128> something like that?
[15:50] <seb128> well the code change but in spirit
[15:50] <seb128> no gaction in our version
[17:44] <seb128> Trevinho, unsure if that was an issue before, I think I notice because I changed my bg to a white one ... when you maximize a win on xenial there is some gap between the launcher and the window
[17:44] <seb128> it's quite visible white a white bg because it makes a visible gap next the to the decoration/toolbar
[17:50] <seb128> Trevinho, http://imgur.com/3Zr6BEh
[19:35] <Trevinho> seb128: yeha, it's by design...
[19:36] <Trevinho> seb128: it should be 1px
[19:36] <seb128> ok
[19:36] <seb128> it just looks weird in the top because it's only visible next to the toolbar
[19:36] <seb128> oh well
[19:36] <seb128> not so of an issue with the default background/most images
[20:57] <TheMuso> Ok what the actual hell? Alt plus semicolon for window actions menu?
[21:00] <seb128> TheMuso, that's a changelog error, it's on super-alt
[21:01] <TheMuso> Ok, but why the change?
[21:01] <TheMuso> I get that the hud keystroke has been changed, but to change a common convention shared between so many desktop environemnts/OSs?
[21:02] <seb128> TheMuso, I think their rational is that windows actions are on super
[21:03] <TheMuso> Ok makes sense. I personally consider any window resize/movement actions to be suitable to use with super, but menus are accessed with the alt key, so its only logical that the actions menu is the same IMO.
[21:03] <TheMuso> Anyways, I'll just change it for myself.
[21:03] <seb128> yeah, could make sense as, can you comment on the bug to say that?
[21:03] <seb128> well it's blocked by the release team atm
[21:03] <TheMuso> Sure.
[21:03] <seb128> thanks
[21:31] <Mitsos101> How can I use umake in a shell script (without waiting for user input)?
[21:32] <sarnold> what's it prompting for? maybe you can pre-feed it, echo "hello" | umake  or whtaaever
[21:33] <Mitsos101> It's the license agreement for VSCode, I'm trying to install it automatically for Docker
[21:46] <Laney> desrt: if you're planning a glib 2.48.1, would be good to have soon ;-)
[21:46] <Laney> so I can slide it in before xenial becomes 16.04
[21:52] <jdstrand> seb128, qengho: fyi, bug #1570111
[21:52] <ubot5`> bug 1570111 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "many seccomp denials for set_robust_list in xenial" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1570111
[21:53] <seb128> Laney, hey
[21:53] <seb128> Laney, do you plan to update gvfs to the stable version?
[21:54] <seb128> oh, we also didn't update glib-networking
[21:54] <seb128> unsure if that should follows glib or if it's fine to have them off by one serie
[22:00] <seb128> jdstrand, thanks
[22:00] <seb128> qengho, can you have a look to that?
[22:08] <Laney> seb128: if I get time
[22:08] <Laney> and it's fine yes, but you could sync it
[22:08] <Laney> there weren't many changes
[22:10] <seb128> k, I didn't look at it
[22:10] <seb128> maybe if I can manage to get some more hack time in between meetings
[22:10] <seb128> otherwise on monday once I'm back to a proper computer
[22:16] <qengho> jdstrand: ah, thanks. Consider it fixed.
[22:26] <furkan> am i still the only one here with ubuntu 16.04 who's missing shadows on windows of gtk applications?
[22:26] <furkan> it was working fine until an update broke it (no idea which one)