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Anon95I just installed Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 (x64) on my laptop. Everything went fine, but I noticed the screen goes wonky for a split-second every time I hit enter at the login screen, so I changed the drivers to the proprietary AMD drivers. Now unfortunately, the GUI doesn't boot up.04:45
darkxstAnon95, probably not installed probably04:46
Anon95The display remains black. I also tried going into Advanced Options > Recovery Mode and then selecting “FailsafeX”04:46
Anon95Well, I didn't get any errors during the process and I checked with System Monitor to see if anything was happening, because it took a bit of time, and it seemed like it was working. There was lots of network activity from what I assume would be the installer downloading the drivers.04:48
berglhit sounds like to me the kernel headers failed to compile04:52
berglhyou can recover it by going to root shell on the recovery menu04:53
berglhthen doing something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers04:53
berglhAnon95: i dont' see that 15.10 is supported by the AMD driver04:55
berglhthere is a generic Linux installer, not sure if that would work04:56
Anon95Berglh: I'm going to try that now and report back asap04:56
berglhhttp://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux+x86_6404:56
berglhHmm, that driver seems to specifically say 15.10 support04:56
berglhWhich was the Linux option not the Ubuntu option at the driver selection page04:57
berglhHmm, it is listed04:57
berglhAnyway, if you do try to install it, watch it really closely04:57
berglhit will do like a DKMS build04:57
berglhlast time I tried it, it failed to build04:57
Anon95Perhaps something happened during the installation. Either way, I'll try what you suggested04:57
Anon95I'm not sure what DKMS means.04:58
berglhbut then the install finishes and leaves it half installed without the kernel header04:58
berglhdynamic kernel module support04:58
berglhthe driver builds a module04:58
berglhso when you start the kernel it loads the module04:59
berglhto provide support for the graphics04:59
berglhanyway, good luck04:59
Anon95Okay, I had some trouble removing it from the recovery option in GRUB, but I booted it up like I normally would and pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1 and did the commands there and now I can see the GUI, but the resolution is way off05:05
Anon95I guess what I should do now is set the graphics driver back to the default05:07
Anon95Hmm, this is interesting. It seems like I can't select the X.Org driver. I'll post an imgur link below to show you what I see05:08
Anon95https://imgur.com/ftQzptK05:10
darkxstAnon95, I think "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core" will get you back to defualt05:11
berglhyou may also need libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd6405:12
berglhor something05:13
Anon95Alright. After It's done updating (https://imgur.com/dARzlla), I'll do just that05:14
darkxstberglh, pretty sure its just libGL.so that gets mess up by installing proprietry drivers05:22
berglhoh, intersting05:22
darkxstthat is why NVidia invented libGLVND05:23
darkxstit will once implemented allow multiple GL implemtations to co-exist on your install05:24
Anon95Alright. After running sudo apt-get update multiple times and then running “sudo apt-get purge "fglrx.*",” it now has resorted back to normal and I can confirm in Additional Drivers, that it is using the default X.Org drivers05:31
Anon95Here's the link to the answer I followed: http://askubuntu.com/a/6831205:32
darkxstAnon95, that is the conservative approach, you just need to make sure mesa rewrites libGL.so, and I am pretty sure that oneliner I gave you before is enough for that (from memory)05:48
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LaserAllanhey guys, I just switched to ubuntu-gnome and i am wondering if there is a way to change the UI so that I for example can have a better view of what I have opened?, kinda like Linuxmint,I also wonder where i might be able to change the borders around iwndows10:16
darkxstLaserAllan, the window borders are part of the gtk theme10:19
darkxstUI changes require extensions10:20
LaserAllandarkxst: Ok, even if i want to change the borders on the windows?10:31
LaserAllanI am currently on a quite low res screen so the border is quite big10:31
darkxstLaserAllan, yes its all part of the gtk theme (As of about a year ago)10:32
darkxstjust find another theme you like, I guess10:32
LaserAllanOk, so it is that easy to change theme?10:33
darkxstLaserAllan, use gnome-tweak-tool (you need to find the theme first) but otherwise yeh10:34
LaserAllandarkxst: Ok thanks, I am very new to Ubuntu GNOME, ive only used Ubuntu Server LTS before10:34
LaserAllandarkxst: I have to say though that Ubuntu GNOME isn't too bad :)10:45
darkxstLaserAllan, just not too bad?10:46
LaserAllandarkxst: So far I've had some issues since i installed it on this old laptop but i wasn't really expecting anything different really. I think I just need time to get used to the userinterface :)10:47
darkxstyeh its a bit different10:48
LaserAllanthat's what I am trying to get used to but all in allit feels allot better than Windows which prior to me switching to Linux on this laptop barely ran at all10:49
LaserAllanSo in terms of that it's an enormous difference10:49
darkxstLaserAllan, i tried win 10 out the other day, its a mish-mash of a mess!10:50
LaserAllandarkxst: Indeed, but what I like about is the interface and window management but that is pretty much it10:52
LaserAllanand Its still sadly the best alternative for gaming10:52
LaserAllanI really hope Linux gets a push the next few years10:52
darkxstplenty of games on steam linux10:53
darkxstalso some big publishers holding out on linux support10:53
LaserAllandarkxst: Yeah I know but specific hardware setups for example, I have multiple GPUs which as far as I know SLI isn't suported on linux or is it?10:53
LaserAllanYeah thats a shame10:53
darkxstnvidia SLI is supported, but most games don't support it10:54
darkxstbut I don't have time for games, spend my spare time fixing bugs10:55
darkxstso you kids can have a fun Ubuntu GNOME experience!10:55
LaserAllanOh, well I know for a fact that DX12 isn't:P, most games don't support that fully yet. It also seems like most games have higher system requirements on linux10:55
LaserAllanHaha10:55
darkxstVulkan!10:55
LaserAllandarkxst: I really hope Vulkan gets as widely adopted as it should be becuase then Liinux will be a reality to just ditch Windows completely. I think the only thing id ever use windows for then is photoshop.10:56
darkxstI suspect it will, but probably over the next year or two10:58
LaserAllanoh and darkxstI had some issues with "apt" when id installed GNOME last night. It was something that was fixable and I am having some issues getting Xymon to play along but other than that I am imprssed and whats even better is no DAMN BLOATWARE :)10:58
darkxstwhat issues?10:59
darkxstdetails are important!11:00
darkxst"I had some issue" is useless to us11:00
LaserAllanOfc11:00
LaserAllanIt had something to do gtk I suspect the UI?, it was fixable though lemme see if i can find the notes i took of it :)11:01
darkxstapt doesnt have a UI though11:01
LaserAllandarkxst: http://pastebin.com/ry48uZTm11:02
LaserAllanthats the issue I get when i try to install xymon11:03
darkxstthat is a bug in their packaging11:03
darkxstand since I don't even know what xymon is, its officially not my problem!11:04
darkxstfile a bug against their project11:04
LaserAllanI will11:05
LaserAllanSorry, I just thought you might know what it might be causing it11:06
LaserAllanxymon is a surveillance tool for servers but its nice to have on any Linux machine becuase it checks updates and allot of other things and it can then mail you when/if it finds a problem. I have it mostly to monitor connections and certain processes on my servers.11:07
LaserAllanReally easy and nice to use11:07
darkxstLaserAllan, its a bug in their packaging11:09
darkxstand with that11:09
* darkxst sleeps11:09
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johnjohn101after 16.04 is released, how soon will 3.20.x be available on ubuntu-gnome?15:14
ricotzjohnjohn101, if you insist you can use the gnome3-staging ppa for some 3.20 bits which is considered unstable at this point15:59
johnjohn101i'm not really interested in unstable.16:00
ricotzyour question pretty much suggested so, if you are implicitly referring to 16.10 dev-cycle16:02
johnjohn101i guess i can wait until 16.10 alpha 2 or beta16:04
ricotzjfyi gnome3-staging won't be fully endorsed at any point, annoying issues are subject to be fixed though16:04
johnjohn101i'm enjoying 15.10 ubuntu gnome btw! will upgrade next week16:05
ricotzgreat, have fun16:06
ArnexCouple of questions: Will Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 release on or around April 21st (along with regular Ubuntu)?  Also, is there a webpage with information specifically on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04?18:21
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LaserAllanhey guys, anyone have any suggestion of a good .cbz reader?23:30
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