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[04:45] <Anon95> I just installed Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 (x64) on my laptop. Everything went fine, but I noticed the screen goes wonky for a split-second every time I hit enter at the login screen, so I changed the drivers to the proprietary AMD drivers. Now unfortunately, the GUI doesn't boot up.
[04:46] <darkxst> Anon95, probably not installed probably
[04:46] <Anon95> The display remains black. I also tried going into Advanced Options > Recovery Mode and then selecting “FailsafeX”
[04:48] <Anon95> Well, I didn't get any errors during the process and I checked with System Monitor to see if anything was happening, because it took a bit of time, and it seemed like it was working. There was lots of network activity from what I assume would be the installer downloading the drivers.
[04:52] <berglh> it sounds like to me the kernel headers failed to compile
[04:53] <berglh> you can recover it by going to root shell on the recovery menu
[04:53] <berglh> then doing something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers
[04:55] <berglh> Anon95: i dont' see that 15.10 is supported by the AMD driver
[04:56] <berglh> there is a generic Linux installer, not sure if that would work
[04:56] <Anon95> Berglh: I'm going to try that now and report back asap
[04:56] <berglh> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux+x86_64
[04:56] <berglh> Hmm, that driver seems to specifically say 15.10 support
[04:57] <berglh> Which was the Linux option not the Ubuntu option at the driver selection page
[04:57] <berglh> Hmm, it is listed
[04:57] <berglh> Anyway, if you do try to install it, watch it really closely
[04:57] <berglh> it will do like a DKMS build
[04:57] <berglh> last time I tried it, it failed to build
[04:57] <Anon95> Perhaps something happened during the installation. Either way, I'll try what you suggested
[04:58] <Anon95> I'm not sure what DKMS means.
[04:58] <berglh> but then the install finishes and leaves it half installed without the kernel header
[04:58] <berglh> dynamic kernel module support
[04:58] <berglh> the driver builds a module
[04:59] <berglh> so when you start the kernel it loads the module
[04:59] <berglh> to provide support for the graphics
[04:59] <berglh> anyway, good luck
[05:05] <Anon95> Okay, I had some trouble removing it from the recovery option in GRUB, but I booted it up like I normally would and pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1 and did the commands there and now I can see the GUI, but the resolution is way off
[05:07] <Anon95> I guess what I should do now is set the graphics driver back to the default
[05:08] <Anon95> Hmm, this is interesting. It seems like I can't select the X.Org driver. I'll post an imgur link below to show you what I see
[05:10] <Anon95> https://imgur.com/ftQzptK
[05:11] <darkxst> Anon95, I think "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core" will get you back to defualt
[05:12] <berglh> you may also need libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64
[05:13] <berglh> or something
[05:14] <Anon95> Alright. After It's done updating (https://imgur.com/dARzlla), I'll do just that
[05:22] <darkxst> berglh, pretty sure its just libGL.so that gets mess up by installing proprietry drivers
[05:22] <berglh> oh, intersting
[05:23] <darkxst> that is why NVidia invented libGLVND
[05:24] <darkxst> it will once implemented allow multiple GL implemtations to co-exist on your install
[05:31] <Anon95> Alright. After running sudo apt-get update multiple times and then running “sudo apt-get purge "fglrx.*",” it now has resorted back to normal and I can confirm in Additional Drivers, that it is using the default X.Org drivers
[05:32] <Anon95> Here's the link to the answer I followed: http://askubuntu.com/a/68312
[05:48] <darkxst> Anon95, that is the conservative approach, you just need to make sure mesa rewrites libGL.so, and I am pretty sure that oneliner I gave you before is enough for that (from memory)
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[10:16] <LaserAllan> hey guys, I just switched to ubuntu-gnome and i am wondering if there is a way to change the UI so that I for example can have a better view of what I have opened?, kinda like Linuxmint,I also wonder where i might be able to change the borders around iwndows
[10:19] <darkxst> LaserAllan, the window borders are part of the gtk theme
[10:20] <darkxst> UI changes require extensions
[10:31] <LaserAllan> darkxst: Ok, even if i want to change the borders on the windows?
[10:31] <LaserAllan> I am currently on a quite low res screen so the border is quite big
[10:32] <darkxst> LaserAllan, yes its all part of the gtk theme (As of about a year ago)
[10:32] <darkxst> just find another theme you like, I guess
[10:33] <LaserAllan> Ok, so it is that easy to change theme?
[10:34] <darkxst> LaserAllan, use gnome-tweak-tool (you need to find the theme first) but otherwise yeh
[10:34] <LaserAllan> darkxst: Ok thanks, I am very new to Ubuntu GNOME, ive only used Ubuntu Server LTS before
[10:45] <LaserAllan> darkxst: I have to say though that Ubuntu GNOME isn't too bad :)
[10:46] <darkxst> LaserAllan, just not too bad?
[10:47] <LaserAllan> darkxst: So far I've had some issues since i installed it on this old laptop but i wasn't really expecting anything different really. I think I just need time to get used to the userinterface :)
[10:48] <darkxst> yeh its a bit different
[10:49] <LaserAllan> that's what I am trying to get used to but all in allit feels allot better than Windows which prior to me switching to Linux on this laptop barely ran at all
[10:49] <LaserAllan> So in terms of that it's an enormous difference
[10:50] <darkxst> LaserAllan, i tried win 10 out the other day, its a mish-mash of a mess!
[10:52] <LaserAllan> darkxst: Indeed, but what I like about is the interface and window management but that is pretty much it
[10:52] <LaserAllan> and Its still sadly the best alternative for gaming
[10:52] <LaserAllan> I really hope Linux gets a push the next few years
[10:53] <darkxst> plenty of games on steam linux
[10:53] <darkxst> also some big publishers holding out on linux support
[10:53] <LaserAllan> darkxst: Yeah I know but specific hardware setups for example, I have multiple GPUs which as far as I know SLI isn't suported on linux or is it?
[10:53] <LaserAllan> Yeah thats a shame
[10:54] <darkxst> nvidia SLI is supported, but most games don't support it
[10:55] <darkxst> but I don't have time for games, spend my spare time fixing bugs
[10:55] <darkxst> so you kids can have a fun Ubuntu GNOME experience!
[10:55] <LaserAllan> Oh, well I know for a fact that DX12 isn't:P, most games don't support that fully yet. It also seems like most games have higher system requirements on linux
[10:55] <LaserAllan> Haha
[10:55] <darkxst> Vulkan!
[10:56] <LaserAllan> darkxst: I really hope Vulkan gets as widely adopted as it should be becuase then Liinux will be a reality to just ditch Windows completely. I think the only thing id ever use windows for then is photoshop.
[10:58] <darkxst> I suspect it will, but probably over the next year or two
[10:58] <LaserAllan> oh and darkxstI had some issues with "apt" when id installed GNOME last night. It was something that was fixable and I am having some issues getting Xymon to play along but other than that I am imprssed and whats even better is no DAMN BLOATWARE :)
[10:59] <darkxst> what issues?
[11:00] <darkxst> details are important!
[11:00] <darkxst> "I had some issue" is useless to us
[11:00] <LaserAllan> Ofc
[11:01] <LaserAllan> It had something to do gtk I suspect the UI?, it was fixable though lemme see if i can find the notes i took of it :)
[11:01] <darkxst> apt doesnt have a UI though
[11:02] <LaserAllan> darkxst: http://pastebin.com/ry48uZTm
[11:03] <LaserAllan> thats the issue I get when i try to install xymon
[11:03] <darkxst> that is a bug in their packaging
[11:04] <darkxst> and since I don't even know what xymon is, its officially not my problem!
[11:04] <darkxst> file a bug against their project
[11:05] <LaserAllan> I will
[11:06] <LaserAllan> Sorry, I just thought you might know what it might be causing it
[11:07] <LaserAllan> xymon is a surveillance tool for servers but its nice to have on any Linux machine becuase it checks updates and allot of other things and it can then mail you when/if it finds a problem. I have it mostly to monitor connections and certain processes on my servers.
[11:07] <LaserAllan> Really easy and nice to use
[11:09] <darkxst> LaserAllan, its a bug in their packaging
[11:09] <darkxst> and with that
[11:09]  * darkxst sleeps
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[15:14] <johnjohn101> after 16.04 is released, how soon will 3.20.x be available on ubuntu-gnome?
[15:59] <ricotz> johnjohn101, if you insist you can use the gnome3-staging ppa for some 3.20 bits which is considered unstable at this point
[16:00] <johnjohn101> i'm not really interested in unstable.
[16:02] <ricotz> your question pretty much suggested so, if you are implicitly referring to 16.10 dev-cycle
[16:04] <johnjohn101> i guess i can wait until 16.10 alpha 2 or beta
[16:04] <ricotz> jfyi gnome3-staging won't be fully endorsed at any point, annoying issues are subject to be fixed though
[16:05] <johnjohn101> i'm enjoying 15.10 ubuntu gnome btw! will upgrade next week
[16:06] <ricotz> great, have fun
[18:21] <Arnex> Couple of questions: Will Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 release on or around April 21st (along with regular Ubuntu)?  Also, is there a webpage with information specifically on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04?
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[20:54] <Mozhan> Hello
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[23:30] <LaserAllan> hey guys, anyone have any suggestion of a good .cbz reader?
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