[13:34] cpaelzer, do you know at all how to enable z/vm monitoring? [13:34] https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/linuxonibm/com.ibm.linux.z.lgdd/lgdd_t_monst_setup_gvm.html?lang=en [13:53] xnox: what you linked is for Linux to provide extra data to the monitor [13:54] xnox: do you mean that or how to enable monitoring in general so that you can feed data into it? [13:54] cpaelzer, yes. [13:54] cpaelzer, i did all the linux side things, and the kernel is telling me "not allowed to write data" [13:54] so i assume that monitoring is not enabled on z/VM side of things, and/or e.g. i didn't bring online the needed CCW device or some such. [13:55] I always used monitor stuff for performance data, never for appldata - but I should be able to find a redbook or so that describes the host portion of it [13:55] cpaelzer, i thought MONITOR SAMPLE ENABLE APPLDATA ALL et.al. are z/VM CP commands, no? [13:55] give me a sec [13:56] i tried to run that through #vmcp and it told me to go away =( [13:56] they are cp commands [13:56] but you have to have that stuff installed [13:56] what you have looks like the config for monwriteer [14:00] "Set this option in the z/VM user directory entry of the virtual machine in which the application that uses this device driver is to run:" [14:00] yep [14:00] what is z/VM user directory? how do i check which options it has? how do i change them? [14:01] consider it a bit (only a bit) the virsh.xml of your guest [14:01] depending on permissions you can modify yours - more often you need an admin login [14:01] you can (try to) edit your current profile - usually with "x profile exec a" [14:02] x is the editor [14:02] be aware if you thought vi is strange a decade ago [14:02] "profile+exec" is like "file+extension" [14:02] a is where it is -on your a disk [14:02] when you log on to a guest [14:03] then your profile is executed [14:03] ah you forgot the CP [14:03] well no vmcp already goes to cp [14:03] cp says unknown monitor command, if i like get a c3270 console up [14:03] I'd recommend x3270 [14:04] http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg248147.pdf [14:04] contains an example on editing your profile [14:04] on page 247 [14:04] they even have the enables you wanted [14:04] they enable more - for the perf monitoring that I mentioned [14:06] section 9.4.1 is what you currently d [14:06] do [14:06] there is a reference for "OPTION APPLMON" [14:06] I never needed to set that, but then my systems always might just have had it enabled by some friendly admins [14:07] Option applmon is for your directory entry [14:07] that now is the real counterpart to a virsh.xml [14:07] rule of thumb: [14:08] directory entry = virsh.xm [14:08] profile = autoexec.bat (yes old win example I know) [14:08] page 183 has an example of the option being enabled in the driectory [14:10] FYI - DIAG X#DC' seems to be the way it is implemented - see http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcse5c00.pdf [14:10] that is how the hipercall is made from linux to the hipervisor [14:10] but that is done for you in the appl* modules [14:10] just if you ever need to debug it [14:13] you might need inaddy or an IS admin to change your directory [14:13] I currently look for a query how you could check if it is enabled [14:13] xnox: ^^ [14:13] cpaelzer, x3270 is aweful -> c3270 is so much better. I have a high dpi screen laptop, and x3270 is unusable. Plus c3270 has everything too. [14:13] curses, but yeah. [14:14] whatever works for you [14:14] * cpaelzer lacks $ for high DPI [14:14] http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSB27U_6.2.0/com.ibm.zvm.v620.hcpa5/option.htm%23option [14:14] about setting OPTION APPLMON [14:14] it came out of my toys budget =) [14:15] familiy consumes toy budged [14:16] * xnox is single :-P [14:18] xnox: what does "vmcp query monitor all" give you [14:18] I really think we need to check that it is enabled as step1 [14:18] $ sudo vmcp query monitor all [14:18] [sudo] password for ubuntu: [14:18] HCPCFC003E Invalid option - MONITOR [14:18] Error: non-zero CP response for command 'QUERY MONITOR ALL': #3 [14:19] that seems very disabled/unavailable to me [14:20] there should have been so much stuff in the report - like if the appldata domain is active and all that [14:20] https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSB27U_6.3.0/com.ibm.zvm.v630.hcpb7/qmon.htm [14:21] but it seems monitor itself is unavailable - as I said I always had the luxury of such basics being set up :-) [14:21] lets consider it is not installed7enabled [14:27] xnox: I've asked a few people that should know better - need to wait til they reply [14:28] cool [14:28] thanks! [14:28] xnox: there might be my family-evening-break in between, but I definetly come back to you later [14:35] xnox: well we are totally without privileges [14:36] xnox: even to query if enabled it need a user with A or E [14:36] but we only have G [14:36] That very likely applies to your enable as well [14:36] we need someone to change the entries of you login [14:37] while doing so he can ensure you have Option applmon enabled [14:37] inaddy: ^^ - can you do that ? [14:37] RT ticket ? [14:37] also I really think that xnox user should get like ABEGU privclasses [14:37] wel.... maybe not. [14:39] xnox: yes the MONITOR command for your enable is Priv class A and E as well [14:39] so without that you won't do a lot :-) [14:43] xnox: so really - open a RT ticket to get your z/VM login (that of your guest) also priv class A and E [14:44] xnox: otherwise I don't see you continuing to work on this [14:44] and once you have that you can start with the query to see what actually is enabled [14:44] then enable it with the command you already had [14:44] then query again [14:44] then cross fingers and do it [14:45] xnox: away with the kids for a while, let me know if you need more [14:47] sorry guys my daughter was born yesterday. still in hospital. could u ping frank [14:47] cpaelzer: ^ [17:56] inaddy: absolutely - I hope everything is fine - and gratz