| keithzg | ...or not; it won't even boot the installer then. Hrmm. | 00:48 |
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| hallyn | pmatulis: hey - that box you had htat wouldn't boot after launching a lxd container, was it launched from a cloud image by chance? | 00:59 |
| neon_v0id | Hey, everyone. I have a small issue with my Ubuntu server. I recently uninstalled the Mumble server I was running on it, and now I keep getting mail about the "murmurd" start-stop-daemon. That /usr/sbin/murmurd can't start because there's no such file or directory. How can I get my server to stop trying to run murmurd at startup? | 01:20 |
| tarpman | neon_v0id: 1) purge the package (vs just removing it) - the initscript is a conffile, therefore not removed unless you purge. 2) file a bug - the initscript should not try to start a daemon that isn't installed | 01:28 |
| neon_v0id | tarpman, thanks. I've run the purge and hopefully I wont get any more mail messages about mumble/murmurd :) | 01:35 |
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| pmatulis | hallyn: yes, that's what i said | 03:32 |
| hallyn | pmatulis: can you check whether removing /etc/network/interfaces.d/* and putting the eth0 definition in /etc/network/interfaces fixes it for you? | 03:50 |
| hallyn | it fixed it for me at any rate | 03:51 |
| pmatulis | hallyn: i copied contents of .d/eth0 into interfaces file and moved eth0 out of the way. rebooted fine. did 'lxc launch ubuntu:' and rebooted. same problem as before | 04:12 |
| pmatulis | hallyn: fwiw, it hangs here a while: https://private-fileshare.canonical.com/~pmatulis/sstack_reboot_pmatulis-xenial-1.png | 04:13 |
| pmatulis | hallyn: there appears to be some kernel module problems, dunno | 04:14 |
| hallyn | pmatulis: that sounds like a different bug, then, which i've not reproduced. drat | 04:21 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:13 |
| SaltySolomon | hi | 08:32 |
| SaltySolomon | I need a tiny bit help with setting up open stack | 08:32 |
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| amigoo89 | hey guys, I am currently running an ubuntu VPS machine. For a few days/weeks already, when I want to access my server either via HTTP or SSH, it starts to load for the FIRST TIME very slow, like if it is sleeping/standby. As soon as the machne woke up, it works properly and fast. what could be the reason for it? | 10:50 |
| vagarwal_ | I see that oddjob-mkhomedir is available in xenial but not in trusty. Is there an alternative or a backport available for oddjob-mkhomedir in trusty? | 11:01 |
| saftblandarn | Hello! | 11:19 |
| saftblandarn | I'm in the process of installing a lamp-server on ubuntu, could anyone recommend a good guide for 14.04? | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | sudo tasksel .... pick "LAMP server" ? | 11:20 |
| saftblandarn | ogra_, thanks :) I'm a total newbie | 11:36 |
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| saftblandarn | How do I go up in the CLI? | 12:32 |
| hateball | saftblandarn: care to elaborate? "go up" ? | 12:34 |
| hateball | shift+page up/down, probably | 12:34 |
| saftblandarn | That solved it. Thanks! | 12:35 |
| caribou | jgrimm: FYI, vsftpd is now uploaded & into the archive | 12:58 |
| saftblandarn | Okay, so now I set up all the basics I need for creating my web front end and such. Before I do so I would like to backup everything. What is the ideal way to do this? | 13:36 |
| jamespage | coreycb, hey paramiko 1.16 is not backporting for the UCA - needs some extra deps | 13:43 |
| jamespage | can you take a look? | 13:43 |
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| coreycb | jamespage, on it | 13:43 |
| jamespage | coreycb, oh for next cycle we should consider how the archive re-org thing can help us remove more delta with debian | 13:44 |
| jamespage | coreycb, bd's that don't translate into runtime depends can still be in universe... | 13:44 |
| coreycb | jamespage, I need to catch up on the archive re-org | 13:45 |
| coreycb | jamespage, that is interesting | 13:45 |
| jamespage | coreycb, it could really help us | 13:45 |
| coreycb | jamespage, yeah, so we could potentially drop a lot of BDs from main? | 13:45 |
| jamespage | coreycb, that will have happened anyway | 13:46 |
| jamespage | no action required | 13:46 |
| coreycb | nice | 13:46 |
| jamespage | coreycb, we can re-add a load that we manage via delta | 13:46 |
| coreycb | jamespage, it seems like something we can naturally assess perhaps as we work through merges next cycle | 13:47 |
| jamespage | coreycb, yah | 13:48 |
| jamespage | +1 | 13:48 |
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| EmilienM | jamespage, coreycb: looking at http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/mitaka_versions.html | 13:48 |
| EmilienM | it looks like we can use update repo? | 13:48 |
| jamespage | EmilienM, yeah working that through atm | 13:48 |
| EmilienM | excellent | 13:49 |
| jgrimm | caribou, thanks!! | 13:49 |
| jamespage | EmilienM, we have an update to paramiko in the pipe which I'd like to get tested in staging before we promote to -proposed and -updates | 13:49 |
| jamespage | EmilienM, at which point we will have validates staging as much as we can and you'll get the whole lot :-) | 13:50 |
| aotea | :q | 13:50 |
| EmilienM | jamespage: testing our CI against updates now | 13:56 |
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| coreycb | jamespage, paramiko backport fix is in the works, I had to update python-gssapi in xenial to drop virtualenv and python-tox from BDs... | 14:58 |
| macskay | hi guys, i have a ubuntu 14.04 lts server and it takes a long time to respond to commands, such as up to 20 seconds when using "ls -al" for a small directory. | 15:03 |
| macskay | Using "ls" only is done immediately. I tried rebooting but then my server didnt come back. | 15:03 |
| macskay | It seemed an error in mounting the partition but checking the drive's smart values didnt show any faults. | 15:03 |
| macskay | I rebooted in "recovery mode" and all commands are executed right away (even "ls -al") | 15:03 |
| macskay | when mounting the partition and using "chroot /mnt" the repsonse time goes back up again. What could that be? | 15:03 |
| macskay | I tried "top" and "dmesg" but noghint shows up in there | 15:03 |
| ppetraki | macskay, what does strace say? | 15:04 |
| macskay | one sec ill jhave a look | 15:04 |
| rbasak | macskay: if you've rebooted dmesg is lost. Check /var/log/kern.log. | 15:04 |
| ppetraki | macskay, strace -t -f -s 4096 {CMD} &> logfile | 15:05 |
| ppetraki | should tell you were it's spending its time and be pretty verbose about it | 15:06 |
| macskay | ppetraki: Here's the logfile: https://www.refheap.com/117490, rbasak /var/log/kern.log was last changed 3 days ago | 15:08 |
| rbasak | I don't know but it sounds like some kind of local corruption or hardware fault to me. | 15:09 |
| rbasak | Have you forced an fsck? | 15:09 |
| macskay | hm not that i know of no, should I do one? | 15:10 |
| rbasak | I would. | 15:10 |
| macskay | the strange thing is, why would it be ok in the recovery mode? | 15:10 |
| rbasak | A reboot might have cleared an underlying problem. | 15:11 |
| rbasak | Especially for a hardware fault. | 15:11 |
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| ppetraki | macskay, a lot of ldap timeouts | 15:13 |
| macskay | yeah | 15:13 |
| macskay | i installed ldap yesterday, but removed it again | 15:13 |
| macskay | it kept timing out | 15:13 |
| macskay | even though i deinstalled it | 15:13 |
| ppetraki | I don't know how you uninstalled it, but it still looks like it's part of the auth stack | 15:14 |
| ppetraki | a fsck is a good idea, start from a sane place | 15:15 |
| macskay | sudo apt-get remove --purge slapd | 15:15 |
| ppetraki | macskay, it looks like you're going to have to manually remove ldap from the auth stack. theres a lot of "im trying to connect to localhost over socket and nobody is there to receive" | 15:21 |
| ppetraki | macskay, port 389 is ldap | 15:22 |
| macskay | that might actually be the problem, because it started lagging after I "removed" ldap | 15:22 |
| ppetraki | macskay, so opinion is find a decent howto on ldap and reverse the steps | 15:22 |
| * ppetraki is not fluent in auth anymore | 15:23 | |
| macskay | hm yes that seems about right | 15:23 |
| ppetraki | hope that helps | 15:23 |
| macskay | i'll try that | 15:23 |
| macskay | and keep you posted if it helped or not | 15:23 |
| macskay | thanks ! | 15:23 |
| ppetraki | yw | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | jamespage: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305286/ -- the bump to updates repo works fine for us. | 15:25 |
| jamespage | EmilienM, awesome | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | jamespage: question: when do you plan to provide a repo for newton? :-) | 15:33 |
| jamespage | after austin | 15:40 |
| jamespage | EmilienM, ^^ | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | jamespage: excellent | 15:41 |
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| frickler | does anyone else see a double-! and a left-triangle on their boot splash screen to the right of the cycling dots? | 15:47 |
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| pmatulis | hey hallyn, i was surprised to discover i could log in after all. but i checked a long long time after rebooting. not sure what's going on | 16:17 |
| hallyn | odd | 17:02 |
| DammitJim | is there a fix for the samba - badlock bug? I am on 14.04 | 17:20 |
| DammitJim | I have seen that it's been worked on in the security ppa? | 17:21 |
| sdeziel | DammitJim: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2016-April/007266.html | 17:21 |
| DammitJim | ok, so we are looking at about a week | 17:22 |
| DammitJim | thanks! | 17:22 |
| sdeziel | DammitJim: if you could test the -proposed packages that would be ideal | 17:23 |
| DammitJim | sdeziel, when something like this comes up, what page should I be looking at? | 17:23 |
| DammitJim | sdeziel, I'm going to try to because I know it might require me to make other changes | 17:23 |
| randymarsh9 | hello | 17:23 |
| randymarsh9 | what's a good command line browser? | 17:24 |
| DammitJim | lynx | 17:25 |
| sdeziel | DammitJim: those versions upgrade are very infrequent. I don't know if there is a official communication channel for those but the -server mailing list might be a good place to look at | 17:25 |
| DammitJim | ah! server mailing list | 17:26 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: I prefer w3m, I think it does a better job with tables. none are entirely pleasing. | 17:39 |
| randymarsh9 | DammitJim: seems to be the most popular choice | 17:40 |
| randymarsh9 | sarnold: will give that a try, thanks | 17:40 |
| DammitJim | si | 17:40 |
| sarnold | DammitJim: we also usually call for testers in the #ubuntu-hardened channel | 17:40 |
| randymarsh9 | sarnold: dang i can even scroll with my mousoe | 17:44 |
| randymarsh9 | mouse* | 17:44 |
| randymarsh9 | good stuff | 17:44 |
| sarnold | oh yeah, and I have a vague memory of that getting annoying when you just want to select/paste like a normal application.. | 17:45 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: w3m-img can even load images into xterms and other similarly-featured terminals. scary. | 17:46 |
| randymarsh9 | sarnold: i did "apt-get install w3m-img", it downloaded and installed but when i type w3m-img into my terminal and hit return it says "command not found" | 17:53 |
| randymarsh9 | what am i doing wrong? | 17:53 |
| nacc | randymarsh9: doesn't htat just install the extension? the command is still w3m | 17:54 |
| nacc | afaict | 17:54 |
| randymarsh9 | nacc: it very well may. i have no idea how to use it though | 17:57 |
| randymarsh9 | do i need to use a different ssh client for images to load? | 17:57 |
| randymarsh9 | or can i still use putty | 17:57 |
| sarnold | the -mouse- works over an ssh via putty?? | 17:58 |
| RoyK | iirc no | 18:03 |
| RoyK | but I think it might work with kitty | 18:03 |
| RoyK | and then there's this new ubuntu-on-windows thing that might be worth trying | 18:04 |
| RoyK | randymarsh9: the command is w3m, not w3m-img | 18:06 |
| RoyK | or perhaps w3mimgdisplay | 18:07 |
| randymarsh9 | sarnold: in w3m it does. i can click links and even scroll using the mouse wheel | 18:07 |
| randymarsh9 | RoyK: on 0.62 it is working | 18:07 |
| RoyK | randymarsh9: then possibly xming is doing that | 18:07 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: crazy. I didn't really expect that to work via putty. :) | 18:07 |
| randymarsh9 | using screen | 18:08 |
| randymarsh9 | dont know if that has anything to do with it | 18:08 |
| sarnold | haha, that is also surprising :) | 18:08 |
| randymarsh9 | sarnold: actually no i take that back, if you are using screen it won't scroll but if you just launch w3m from terminal in putty then it does | 18:11 |
| randymarsh9 | if you have a screen session open then it just scrolls up your terminal | 18:12 |
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| randymarsh9 | RoyK: i tried w3m-img thinking that will load the images | 18:14 |
| randymarsh9 | it isn't working though. is it because of the client i am using? | 18:14 |
| RoyK | afaics, it's not part of that package | 18:14 |
| RoyK | try dpkg -L w3m-img | 18:14 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: I really don't think images are going to load via putty. it uses xterm extensions to draw them.. I'm stunned the mouse even works. | 18:15 |
| RoyK | sarnold: with xming, it should work well | 18:15 |
| sarnold | RoyK: heh is that still a thing? :) | 18:15 |
| RoyK | sarnold: indeed :) | 18:16 |
| sarnold | RoyK: that's right next to tri-teal cde in my mental hash buckets.. | 18:16 |
| RoyK | hehe | 18:16 |
| RoyK | only good way of using x with windows these days, afaik | 18:16 |
| RoyK | Last Update: 2015-05-24 | 18:17 |
| RoyK | no, not really, april 1 | 18:17 |
| RoyK | 2016 | 18:17 |
| randymarsh9 | sarnold: xterm is an ssh client for unix systems? | 18:18 |
| RoyK | no... | 18:19 |
| RoyK | it's a terminal | 18:19 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: no. xterm is a terminal emulator. | 18:19 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: windows doesn't really have an equivalent, or at least not explicitly.. | 18:19 |
| randymarsh9 | sarnold: command prompt? | 18:20 |
| randymarsh9 | that would be my guess | 18:20 |
| RoyK | terminals are abstracted in the unix world, and has a truckload of functionality hardcoded into cmd and the likes in windows | 18:20 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: except cmd.exe is .. well, like xterm glued together with bash. sortof. | 18:20 |
| randymarsh9 | cool | 18:21 |
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| RoyK | http://www.extremetech.com/computing/226280-first-look-hands-on-with-ubuntu-on-windows-10 | 18:21 |
| randymarsh9 | don't all terminals have bash/some userspace glued with it anyway? | 18:21 |
| RoyK | no, bash is another executable | 18:22 |
| RoyK | such as dash or zsh or csh or whatever | 18:22 |
| RoyK | chs is rather old-school :) | 18:23 |
| sarnold | .. or skip running the shell entirely and just start programs directly, e.g. xterm -e mutt will start mutt directly inthe terminal without a shell first | 18:23 |
| patdk-wk | why xterm? | 18:23 |
| randymarsh9 | what good is a terminal with no userspace? | 18:23 |
| patdk-wk | just have the kernel run mutt instead of init :) | 18:23 |
| * RoyK slaps patdk-wk with a small herring | 18:24 | |
| patdk-wk | if your running xterm, you long ago had userspace | 18:24 |
| RoyK | randymarsh9: everything is userspace | 18:24 |
| randymarsh9 | RoyK: i'm confused | 18:24 |
| patdk-wk | a *shell* != userspace | 18:24 |
| RoyK | kernelspace is about system calls and so on | 18:24 |
| RoyK | a shell lives in userspace | 18:25 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: each shell brings with it a certain amount of used memory; if you never use it you can save the memory. granted the kernel will swap it out eventually but each one takes one to six megs or so.. | 18:25 |
| patdk-wk | userspace is about privilege separation | 18:25 |
| randymarsh9 | ok i have the wrong definition of userspace | 18:26 |
| RoyK | x86/x64 have four privilege levels - most OSes uses two | 18:26 |
| * patdk-wk lives at ring0 | 18:27 | |
| sdeziel | how about ring -1? | 18:27 |
| randymarsh9 | what's the point of bringing bash to windows? | 18:28 |
| RoyK | sdeziel: the über-ring with only gods in it? ;) | 18:28 |
| randymarsh9 | does that let me download and run unix programs? | 18:28 |
| RoyK | randymarsh9: not back - it never was there in the irst place | 18:28 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: so you're not stuck trying to deal with terrible cmd.exe or baffling powershell | 18:28 |
| ogra_ | it comes with apt ;) | 18:28 |
| randymarsh9 | RoyK: i said bringing bash not back | 18:28 |
| RoyK | doh - I misread | 18:29 |
| randymarsh9 | so i can run w3m on windows if i want to? | 18:29 |
| RoyK | randymarsh9: the point is that it combines the power of unices with windoze | 18:29 |
| sarnold | probably | 18:29 |
| randymarsh9 | and lynx and all the other cool programs? | 18:29 |
| sarnold | granted those may work today via cygwin | 18:29 |
| sarnold | but the new windows personality modes sounds nicer | 18:29 |
| RoyK | randymarsh9: works well if you really need windows and can't go with linux as your primary | 18:29 |
| randymarsh9 | so windows is coming up with a bash emulator of sorts? | 18:29 |
| ogra_ | The whole ubuntu archive (theoretically) | 18:29 |
| randymarsh9 | except it is much more official than that? | 18:30 |
| RoyK | randymarsh9: nah - it's an API that translates linux systemcalls to windows' ones | 18:30 |
| randymarsh9 | is windows going to let ubuntu do the same thing? | 18:30 |
| ogra_ | no, it adds Linux syscall translation to the windows kernel | 18:30 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: in some sense, linux did the same thing two decades ago, first with 'dosbox' then with 'wine' | 18:31 |
| ogra_ | then there is an app in the windows store that lets you install a minimal ubuntu system thatships bash and apt | 18:31 |
| RoyK | sarnold++ | 18:31 |
| randymarsh9 | sarnold: dosbox was a unix thing? | 18:32 |
| ogra_ | so you can apt install anything from the archive | 18:32 |
| ogra_ | (not everything might run though ) | 18:32 |
| RoyK | ogra_: and most of it will probably work? ;) | 18:32 |
| randymarsh9 | i thought dosbox was created to run old dos programs on new versions of windows | 18:32 |
| randymarsh9 | since dos was removed after windows 2000 | 18:32 |
| randymarsh9 | in xp it was no longer there i think | 18:33 |
| ogra_ | I'd assume most cmdline tools will work eventually... Including lynx and w3m | 18:33 |
| sarnold | randymarsh9: sure, apt-cache show dosbox :) | 18:34 |
| sarnold | hunh, initial release in 2002.. | 18:35 |
| sarnold | ah there we go, dosemu, initial release September 1992; 23 years ago | 18:35 |
| RoyK | no idea if the initial release was for win or linux, but it seems to run on most things | 18:35 |
| RoyK | sarnold: ah - probably not someone that wanted dos games to run on winnt/os2 :D | 18:36 |
| RoyK | that is, winnt came in '93 | 18:37 |
| sarnold | hehe | 18:37 |
| RoyK | sarnold: I remember someone trying to show us (at the time I was working a day a week for practice during school) the benefits of winnt 3.1 as a fileserver - how brilliant it was - but then, a wee test comparing simple file copying with that and the current netware (3.12 iirc) showed it was slower by far, about half the speed or so | 18:40 |
| sarnold | RoyK: yeah, I remember those ancient netware systems fondly.. the nt 4.0 server we had reset every thursday and we never figured out why. | 18:42 |
| RoyK | hehe | 18:43 |
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| arooni | can someone tell me why i must run sudo when doing basic stuff like mkdir rm within a /var/www/adomain.com which it and all files/subdirectorires has ownership: wp-user:www-data ; and my currently logged in user is part of the www-data group? | 20:17 |
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| keithzg | arooni: What does "ls -l /var/www/adomain.com" say for permissions? Perhaps it's not set to writeable by group, only wp-user. | 20:18 |
| arooni | keithzg you're right; is it a security hazard to do a sudo chmod g+w -r /var/www/adomain.com ? | 20:20 |
| keithzg | arooni: Only in the sense that obviously then you'd better make sure that only users with secure credentials and a good reason to write there are part of that group. | 20:21 |
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| pulsar12 | I need help to solve an issue with pppd. | 23:06 |
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| pulsar12 | why would pppd process try to resolve name "ppp0" while a client is connecting? | 23:25 |
| sarnold | pulsar12: hmm, nothing stands out when searching debian code search for ppp0 or gethostbyname pkg:ppp .. | 23:34 |
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| pulsar12 | sarnold, thanks for the hint! the search using "gethostbyname pkg:ppp" turned out a result which i havent found before | 23:41 |
| pulsar12 | tomorrow i will investigate more since i don't have access now to the server | 23:47 |
| randymarsh9 | uh oh | 23:56 |
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