| ali1234 | Azelphur: that's pretty easy to do. you just need a kernel with gether and an nfs share for root | 04:40 |
|---|---|---|
| mapps | hi all | 05:25 |
| knightwise | mornin mapps | 05:26 |
| mapps | ;] | 05:26 |
| mapps | on the last ep of 11.22.63 | 05:26 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 06:33 |
| ali1234 | someone just pointed out to me that youtube is now the second most popular website in the world according to alexa, pushing facebook down into third place | 06:45 |
| brobostigon | google first presumably? | 06:46 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 06:47 |
| brobostigon | not a surprise. | 06:47 |
| ali1234 | it,s been google, facebook, youtube since about 2009 | 06:47 |
| brobostigon | it might have been popey.com | 06:47 |
| knightwise | Probably popey.com | 06:53 |
| * brobostigon just said that. | 06:54 | |
| knightwise | brobostigon is always right :p | 06:56 |
| brobostigon | my partner is always right, i am not. | 06:57 |
| * knightwise is deepdiving into kindle knowledge | 07:45 | |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Scrabble Day! 😃 | 09:04 |
| knightwise | hey James | 09:11 |
| knightwise | Scrabbleday is not a word :p | 09:11 |
| JamesTait | Depends which dictionary you use, knightwise. 😉 | 09:16 |
| === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat | ||
| daftykins | yay for new PC bits \o/ | 10:00 |
| daftykins | except case | 10:00 |
| zmoylan-1i | nail it to the wall as an art installation... | 10:03 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/99kp0ykwzdj48ez/AABs_DXJAJvNCwdp4OaTTAxMa?dl=0 :D | 10:03 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| zmoylan-pi | all new and shiny... | 10:04 |
| daftykins | what's great is i got all the bits, then went to get the latest BIOS for the motherboard... oh nice Asus website is down for maintenance! | 10:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | maintenance... or wonky hardware... | 10:05 |
| daftykins | >:D | 10:05 |
| sebsebseb | popey: morning, two questions for you the Ubuntu Phone expert :d after reading two things on omgubuntu that is | 10:53 |
| sebsebseb | or is it just one well anhyway | 10:54 |
| sebsebseb | popey: were there even any plans to bring convergence to the MX4 no I guess not quite? | 10:54 |
| * sebsebseb really likes his MX4 with Ubuntu on it, slight ashame got sent the wrong colojur, but ok with silver now | 10:55 | |
| sebsebseb | altough it looks like a lot of other peoples phones in that colour, instead of the gold thing or whatever | 10:55 |
| sebsebseb | popey: I guess one question, one comment. nice snaps in 16.04 and deb packages | 10:56 |
| popey | sebsebseb: i think they hoped to | 11:11 |
| popey | \o/ put the dehydrator on with slices of apples covered in cinnamon | 11:18 |
| popey | house is gonna smell yummy soon | 11:18 |
| diddledan | I finally worked on my own site to make it less fugly :-p https://www.bowlhat.net | 11:19 |
| diddledan | I'm liking my logo now | 11:19 |
| diddledan | popey: you getting tasty snacks? | 11:20 |
| popey | ya | 11:20 |
| diddledan | oh previous line! silly me | 11:20 |
| diddledan | apple + cinnamon = yummy | 11:20 |
| daftykins | there's a man! in the corner! | 11:20 |
| diddledan | daftykins: that's me | 11:21 |
| daftykins | :D | 11:24 |
| daftykins | i feel like you should've been wearing said hat | 11:25 |
| diddledan | lol | 11:25 |
| diddledan | yeah I need to invest in a proper bowler hat and get a new photo | 11:25 |
| daftykins | glad to help! 8D | 11:26 |
| popey | I know a few brits who wear bowler hats. | 11:28 |
| popey | Without exceptions, they look like tools. | 11:28 |
| popey | FYI :) | 11:28 |
| diddledan | lmao | 11:28 |
| diddledan | popey: are you suggesting that I'm not tool-like already? | 11:28 |
| diddledan | if so thank you :-p | 11:29 |
| popey | yw | 11:30 |
| daftykins | i still feel sad about losing shauno to the Apple teasing :( | 11:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | sorry... | 11:31 |
| daftykins | yeah that big mean zmoylan-pi | 11:31 |
| daftykins | ;D | 11:31 |
| popey | losing wat to the wat | 11:31 |
| daftykins | shauno left the channel after we teased Apple products too much | 11:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | i don't think we were teasing, more that he had a crappy day and rage quit | 11:32 |
| popey | ah. | 11:32 |
| daftykins | totally both! | 11:32 |
| diddledan | he holds a grudge does that one - he did the same in another channel I used to frequent | 11:32 |
| popey | #grudge-holders ? | 11:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | #downwiththissortofthing | 11:33 |
| diddledan | #carefulnow | 11:33 |
| daftykins | diddledan had to leave after he no longer bore a grudge to man nor beast | 11:33 |
| popey | #slashquit | 11:33 |
| diddledan | #hashtag | 11:33 |
| diddledan | wait, what? | 11:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | shouldn't that be ##hashtag | 11:34 |
| foobarry | maybe he's on holiday and winding you guys up | 11:34 |
| diddledan | ## channels confuse me - I'm sat in both #wordpress and ##wordpress for example | 11:34 |
| foobarry | eww | 11:35 |
| diddledan | foobarry: bloomin long holiday | 11:35 |
| foobarry | oh when was it? | 11:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | but not ###wordpress... not a lot of wordpress in that... | 11:35 |
| diddledan | must be near a year now? | 11:35 |
| foobarry | wow | 11:35 |
| foobarry | feel bad for not noticing | 11:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | he was a night owl, wasn't he? | 11:36 |
| diddledan | yup | 11:36 |
| foobarry | #gingers | 11:36 |
| foobarry | woops | 11:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | were the calm moderate users hang out... :-P | 11:36 |
| diddledan | and you! | 11:36 |
| ali1234 | and me | 11:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | dems fighting words... :-) | 11:36 |
| daftykins | me, him, ali1234 diddledan and zmoylan-pi could do a Macbeth parody of late night "when shall we 5 meet again?" | 11:37 |
| daftykins | yay got the count right ;) | 11:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | when apple release a cheap product? :-P | 11:37 |
| foobarry | and mapps runs in after accidentally betting his house in the casino | 11:37 |
| diddledan | lol | 11:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | some day mapps will bet his kidney... | 11:37 |
| diddledan | irccloud is being laggy | 11:37 |
| foobarry | the working one | 11:37 |
| foobarry | this channel hasn't been remotely ubuntu in years | 11:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | his liver of course isn't worth an apple eula... | 11:38 |
| sebsebseb | popey: apparnatly the MX4 hardware isn't really good enough or has issues for convergence | 11:38 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: this is why we can't have nice users, y'meanie! | 11:38 |
| ali1234 | shauno is still on freenode, i was talking to him the other day | 11:39 |
| daftykins | i PM'd once, to no avail | 11:39 |
| daftykins | he could've easily missed it though | 11:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | he did pop back in here a few months back didn't he? | 11:39 |
| diddledan | yeah a short one-day thing, zmoylan-pi | 11:39 |
| daftykins | :( | 11:40 |
| foobarry | also that other fella who left canonical | 11:40 |
| foobarry | i liked him | 11:40 |
| diddledan | jono? | 11:40 |
| foobarry | nope | 11:40 |
| foobarry | he left irc because he left his employer | 11:40 |
| foobarry | keep going | 11:40 |
| diddledan | oh well that's silly | 11:40 |
| foobarry | my brain is failing me | 11:40 |
| popey | gord | 11:40 |
| foobarry | +1 | 11:40 |
| foobarry | the allot | 11:40 |
| popey | ya | 11:40 |
| popey | he now works for microsoft | 11:40 |
| popey | thanks to the xamarin buy-out | 11:41 |
| foobarry | heh | 11:41 |
| popey | along with about 4 other ex-canonical people | 11:41 |
| foobarry | hangs out in #linux-lovers | 11:41 |
| popey | I miss gord | 11:41 |
| popey | that's a thing? | 11:41 |
| foobarry | looks at canonical jobs | 11:41 |
| popey | oh | 11:41 |
| foobarry | most canonical jobs are juju and openstack atm | 11:42 |
| sebsebseb | popey: who now works for Microsoft? | 11:42 |
| popey | sebsebseb: some ex-canonical people | 11:43 |
| popey | foobarry: https://ldd.tbe.taleo.net/ldd03/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=1104 | 11:43 |
| sebsebseb | not jono though | 11:43 |
| popey | don't want to move to china? | 11:43 |
| popey | no, indeed. i wasn't talking about him | 11:43 |
| sebsebseb | who were the exes? | 11:43 |
| popey | gord allott, neil patel and david siegel all went to xamarin | 11:43 |
| popey | They seem happy there :) | 11:44 |
| sebsebseb | might have heard of one of those names before | 11:44 |
| sebsebseb | siegel maybe | 11:44 |
| sebsebseb | popey: Canonical has your soul now :D and family, so no OGG Camp organising for you this year :d, I read the site update last night | 11:44 |
| popey | Uh | 11:44 |
| sebsebseb | ? | 11:44 |
| popey | I never organised oggcamp | 11:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | this is canonicals plan. to elop the commercial software industry with all these ex canonical employees around... ;-) | 11:45 |
| sebsebseb | popey: uh I thought you did, or did you just help with it a bit? | 11:45 |
| ali1234 | i thought you did as well. wasn't the first one basically in your garden? | 11:45 |
| popey | no | 11:45 |
| popey | i helped organise the Farnham one | 11:45 |
| foobarry | i was at that one | 11:46 |
| sebsebseb | oh right ok so only one | 11:46 |
| ali1234 | oh, getting them mixed up then | 11:46 |
| popey | but most have been in liverpool, and one in oxford and wolves | 11:46 |
| foobarry | then it moved to the other side of the planet | 11:46 |
| sebsebseb | foobarry: over side of planet? heh???? | 11:46 |
| sebsebseb | other | 11:46 |
| popey | Dan/Mark/Tony/Les did most of the work | 11:46 |
| foobarry | north of watford innit | 11:46 |
| sebsebseb | Dan has been quite ill so makes sense why he doesn't want to organise one for this year | 11:46 |
| popey | ali1234: after I saw your project I went looking for pi zero | 11:46 |
| popey | you basically can't buy them | 11:46 |
| ali1234 | they announced a new board revision 12 hours after i ot my prototype boards | 11:46 |
| popey | I guess because they were made out of surplus stock anyway | 11:47 |
| popey | haha | 11:47 |
| sebsebseb | someone quit the orgnaising at the event last time | 11:47 |
| sebsebseb | looks like none this year, but maybe next year | 11:47 |
| popey | Well, Dan did most of the organising but he's been ill | 11:47 |
| popey | so can't do it this year | 11:47 |
| sebsebseb | popey: yep as I just put | 11:47 |
| ali1234 | https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=144165&p=951891#p951891 | 11:47 |
| foobarry | maybe it will spawn southern and northern smaller versions | 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | foobarry: oher events? | 11:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | oooh news on pi zero... http://www.recantha.co.uk/blog/?p=14550 | 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | foobarry: yep we could do with at least on UK open source event, but there only really was ogg camp right? | 11:48 |
| popey | new pizero? | 11:48 |
| popey | hopefully armv7? | 11:48 |
| ali1234 | no | 11:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | they're starting production up again and adding a feature | 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | one above | 11:48 |
| popey | bah | 11:48 |
| popey | 8? | 11:48 |
| ali1234 | no! | 11:48 |
| ali1234 | it will still be 6 | 11:48 |
| ali1234 | it has a new feature, but nobody knows what it is yet | 11:48 |
| ali1234 | it is probably audio, or (my guess) micro HDMI instead of mini | 11:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | a ps/2 port \o/ :-) | 11:49 |
| ali1234 | cos everyone complained about mini | 11:49 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| ali1234 | it won't be header pins, because that would not require a board revision | 11:50 |
| popey | wifi? | 11:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | a scsi port... :-) | 11:51 |
| popey | that would need new chip | 11:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | they definitely said not wifi i think | 11:51 |
| ali1234 | eben said it's not wifi | 11:51 |
| popey | ah | 11:51 |
| ali1234 | that means it won't be bluetooth either cos they are the same chip | 11:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | ir | 11:51 |
| ali1234 | unlikely, i dont think anyone asked for that | 11:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | i know. i'm just thinking of ancient ports that i still like... :-) | 11:52 |
| ali1234 | "To thank you for your patience, we've taken advantage of the hiatus to add a (much requested) new feature. I'll leave you all to guess what it is (it's not WiFi)." | 11:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | beaming between palms/psions was so convenient... | 11:53 |
| ali1234 | actually whatever it needs requires a firmware update so it's not micro HDMI | 11:53 |
| ali1234 | that might rule out audio too since that's just device tree | 11:54 |
| popey | more ram? | 11:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | more ram would be good | 11:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | but wouldn't need a firmware change i don't think | 11:57 |
| ali1234 | possibly. they've never done 1GB stacked before though | 11:57 |
| diddledan | maybe they're gonna do a dedicated bluetooth chip rather than a shared one? | 11:57 |
| ali1234 | it would need a firmware update because of reasons | 11:57 |
| diddledan | gotta love them reasons | 11:57 |
| ali1234 | diddledan unlikely because it would cost the same as using the combo | 11:57 |
| sebsebseb | by | 11:57 |
| diddledan | I do lots of stuff because reasons | 11:57 |
| sebsebseb | e | 11:57 |
| ali1234 | also RF testing etc | 11:57 |
| sebsebseb | bye | 11:57 |
| daftykins | \o | 11:57 |
| diddledan | good point | 11:57 |
| * sebsebseb leaves IRC | 11:58 | |
| ali1234 | RAM configuration is done in the firmware due to how the VC sets up the ARM address space | 11:58 |
| ali1234 | it's really complicated | 11:58 |
| diddledan | ooh, maybe it is a ramboost then | 11:58 |
| diddledan | can you get 1GB POPs? | 11:59 |
| ali1234 | no idea | 11:59 |
| ali1234 | dont see why not though | 11:59 |
| ali1234 | depends on the broadcom part | 11:59 |
| * zmoylan-pi casts ward evil at mention of broadcom | 12:00 | |
| diddledan | they have the clout to get broadcom to do custom work these days tho so they might be able to get a new package which exposes a different POP interface allowing for larger piggy-backing RAM volumes? | 12:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | they have sold a lot of pi... | 12:01 |
| diddledan | that would also lead-way to the pi3 getting a piggy-back in addition to it's reverse-side chip allowing for doule | 12:01 |
| diddledan | double | 12:01 |
| ali1234 | the videocore used int he raspberry pi cannot use more than 1GB so that won't happen | 12:02 |
| diddledan | aah | 12:02 |
| diddledan | that's a shame :-( | 12:02 |
| diddledan | I wonder why that is a limitation | 12:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think the pi 1gb of ram is the pi's biggest bottle neck at the mo | 12:02 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: yeah | 12:03 |
| ali1234 | because the videocore uses MIPS-style segmented memory | 12:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | a 2gb or 4gb pi would be a full pc for me at this point... :-) | 12:03 |
| ali1234 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7747265/why-in-mips-architecture-program-space-divided-into-4-areas | 12:03 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: yeah that would work for me, too - as a webdev I don't need powerful gfx or cpu - as long as it boots fairly quick and there's enough ram to have multiple applications open I'm happy | 12:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | and if i need games i can fire up c64 emulator on my dumbphone... :-) | 12:05 |
| ali1234 | as a webdev don't you need to run firefox and chrome? and flash and html5 video? raspberry pi sucks at all these things | 12:06 |
| diddledan | video would be a requirement | 12:06 |
| diddledan | flash less so | 12:06 |
| diddledan | nobody does flash these days | 12:06 |
| ali1234 | fair enough. basically youtube doesn't work very well on the pi | 12:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | malware writers... :-P | 12:07 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: aye | 12:07 |
| diddledan | several flash-installer-mimics have targeted the mac recently because they can't figure out how else to get into the OS | 12:08 |
| daftykins | cor a motherboard doing the download of a BIOS update for you - what a brave new world | 12:08 |
| diddledan | daftykins: :-o | 12:08 |
| diddledan | daftykins: don't pull the plug! | 12:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | next version will have pics of kittens in the bios to show while you wait... :-) | 12:08 |
| diddledan | daftykins: it's erased the BIOS ROM and is flashing direct from the download :-p | 12:08 |
| daftykins | :D | 12:09 |
| daftykins | ah no it downloaded cats from imgur instead! | 12:09 |
| diddledan | pull the ethernet and you'll get a corrupt flash :-p | 12:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | biosKittens(tm) | 12:09 |
| daftykins | *POST screen of cat in a PC case* | 12:09 |
| diddledan | hopefully guernsytelecom aren't going to blip | 12:09 |
| daftykins | :D | 12:09 |
| daftykins | amusingly it was indeed once called that | 12:09 |
| diddledan | GT or GiT for binary types | 12:10 |
| daftykins | Cable and Wireless bought it, then a while back a Bahraini guy bought it from them | 12:10 |
| diddledan | yey? | 12:10 |
| diddledan | all your internets are routed through the UAE | 12:11 |
| daftykins | hmm not bad for an open air setup noise wise with the stock intel heatsink and fan setup | 12:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | just so you have no idea who owns/fiddles with your wires... | 12:11 |
| diddledan | the stock intel heatsink+fan is quite good these days | 12:11 |
| diddledan | AMD still haven't got the memo though | 12:11 |
| daftykins | i used the one on the core 2 quad back in 2007 as well, they do just dandy :> | 12:11 |
| daftykins | just gotta sit and play with the rotating corners to be sure it's in 'stay down' mode | 12:12 |
| diddledan | aye | 12:12 |
| diddledan | I quite like those for ease of install, but you have to be sure your pegs are through the board before you push the plunger | 12:12 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 12:13 |
| daftykins | i didn't even bother cleaning it up and using my premium arctic silver | 12:13 |
| diddledan | :-o | 12:13 |
| daftykins | now i play the waiting game for when new graphics cards are announced, June or Julyish | 12:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | and then released in november in time to heat your house... :-) | 12:16 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 12:16 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 12:16 |
| daftykins | nah i think they'll be out late July, talk is they're only releasing the mid-range first, top end at the end of the year | 12:16 |
| daftykins | this is the first time since 2010 that the manufacturing process is being reduced since the old 28nm standard in GPUs, so moving to 16nm or lower will be a huge change in efficiency | 12:17 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| diddledan | when do we get picometers? | 12:46 |
| daftykins | doubt that'll happen in our lifetime | 12:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | as soon as you give up feet and inches...? | 12:47 |
| diddledan | my feet don't smell, so I don't need to get rid of them yet | 12:47 |
| daftykins | me and diddledan sorely need our feet to insert into our mouths on regular occasion, eh dan? | 12:47 |
| diddledan | heck yeah! | 12:47 |
| diddledan | shouldn't that be "diddledan and I" though :-p | 12:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | captain pedantic to the rescue... | 12:48 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 12:48 |
| daftykins | talks proper like wot i does | 12:48 |
| daftykins | that's one of the subtler nuances of the lingo i never quite understood the need for :( | 12:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | dat's not proper | 12:49 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/5uviwm78kqd30en/IMG_20160413_134814.jpg?dl=0 | 12:49 |
| diddledan | thee and me | 12:49 |
| daftykins | poor old setup, parts pinched | 12:49 |
| * diddledan pinches some parts unseen | 12:49 | |
| daftykins | i'm informed a new surface pro 4 has arrived at a clients ready for prodding | 12:50 |
| diddledan | fondleslab! | 12:50 |
| daftykins | can't say i hold much hope of it solving the last ones surprises | 12:51 |
| daftykins | diddledan: i've changed my mind, your site pic needs to turn into an HTML5 video of you enacting a cheesy welcome | 12:52 |
| daftykins | during which you don the hat! | 12:52 |
| daftykins | this is gold. | 12:53 |
| diddledan | full-HD | 12:53 |
| diddledan | autoplay and autorepeat | 12:53 |
| daftykins | yep, auto max volume | 12:53 |
| diddledan | several different prompts for video-player installs, too | 12:55 |
| diddledan | or. I should do it with JAVA | 12:55 |
| diddledan | complete with a rippling water effect | 12:55 |
| foobarry | anyone used berkeley DB? | 14:21 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 15:12 |
| daftykins | \o howdy | 15:12 |
| * diddledan checks what time it is in UGT. yep. good morning. | 15:14 | |
| diddledan | boiler man says my boiler is 96% efficient | 15:15 |
| daftykins | diddledan: did he turn it back on again after? *ba-dum-tish* | 15:16 |
| * diddledan sucks-in a sharp breath | 15:17 | |
| diddledan | ooh that's harsh! | 15:17 |
| diddledan | how very dare thee | 15:17 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:18 |
| daftykins | what's your fuel type? | 15:18 |
| daftykins | i have one o' them gas condensing boilers | 15:18 |
| daftykins | the guernsey supply runs on LPG though which pales in comparison to the UK gas supply | 15:19 |
| diddledan | gas | 15:19 |
| diddledan | that's all I know | 15:19 |
| daftykins | ah har | 15:19 |
| diddledan | anyone seen this? http://perl11.org/ turns out perl isn't dead | 15:32 |
| diddledan | I can't figure out where that leaves the unreleased perl6 | 15:33 |
| diddledan | I'm wondering if it's gonna go the same way as PHP6 | 15:33 |
| diddledan | https://youtu.be/hNjX_WX2y8A | 16:04 |
| ali1234 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2Nl2D-i8c (NSFW) | 16:07 |
| diddledan | lol | 16:10 |
| diddledan | lol: https://twitter.com/JoeRessington/status/720284913698783232 | 16:18 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| === spanner is now known as Xack | ||
| diddledan | what's up with freenode right now? | 20:50 |
| diddledan | splitters! | 20:50 |
| daftykins | it's FOSS | 20:50 |
| daftykins | ;D | 20:50 |
| diddledan | foreign online shaky servers? | 20:52 |
| diddledan | (I couldn't think of anything more witty) | 20:53 |
| diddledan | offline might be better | 20:53 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:54 |
| === _stowa_ is now known as _stowa | ||
| zmoylan-pi | probably a loose cat5 cable somewhere... | 21:34 |
| daftykins | 5 yep, telephone spec | 21:36 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | or someone tripped over a coax network cable somewhere... | 21:36 |
| daftykins | some little scamp poked a staple in and ran off | 21:39 |
| * daftykins glances at diddledan | 21:39 | |
| diddledan | <.< | 21:39 |
| diddledan | >.> | 21:39 |
| diddledan | -.- | 21:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | nailing network cables to wall. such a beneficial work creation scheme | 21:40 |
| diddledan | just reboobed into windas. iTunes really want to sell start warts | 21:40 |
| daftykins | you mean it didn't need updating first? | 21:40 |
| diddledan | nuppers | 21:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | all of windows is trying to update probably... | 21:41 |
| daftykins | what irks me a bit about you saying that is Loonix updates more frequently and less consistently :) | 21:42 |
| diddledan | wait, do people even use looknocks these days? | 21:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | at least i can keep using an updating linux system while it updates | 21:43 |
| diddledan | this year will be the year of Windows on the desktop, finally | 21:43 |
| daftykins | err, i've never found that you can't | 21:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | on windows you start up or shut down and updates are been installed. and necessary updates stop the whole show till they are done | 21:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | or is that just a vista thing | 21:46 |
| daftykins | only if it's on auto and you're an end user that doesn't do them when you're supposed to i'd say | 21:46 |
| daftykins | it's folks that fight it and then eventually click the wrong thing in frustration that then get delayed from what they were doing 'cause they didn't take the time out :) | 21:47 |
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