[04:57] <Kilos> morning peeps
[05:06] <mazal> Mornings
[05:06] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[05:06] <Kilos> and bushtech inetpro and others
[05:06] <mazal> Ugh....moeg........
[05:07] <mazal> Die middernag ding werk nie so lekker met my nie
[05:07] <Kilos> night surfer moeg?
[05:07] <Kilos> haha
[05:07] <mazal> yep
[05:07] <mazal> Maar die updates is darem klaar......vir nou
[05:07] <Kilos> mooi
[05:08] <mazal> Dink ek moet big blue nou sommer afhaal van die netwerk af totdat ek weer slaap ingehaal het
[05:08] <mazal> Nou net 3 probleme oor dan kan als uitgesort wees
[05:09] <Kilos> wat nou nog
[05:09] <mazal> Telscum het nou nog nie my kanselasie gedoen op die adsl nie. Is al meer as 'n maand
[05:10] <mazal> Telscum het nog nie my account reggemaak nie ( Bill my vol al het ek Feb laas werkende lyn gehad )
[05:10] <mazal> En dan 'n groot pyn , ek sit nog steeds sonder warm water in die huis. ( Is al 2 weke )
[05:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:11] <mazal> En nou is ek nie by die werk om hulle aan te jaag nie so weet nie wat is hulle plan nie. Is bad sukkel sonder warm water :(
[05:11] <mazal> Morning anton_may 
[05:11] <Kilos> hi anton_may 
[05:12] <anton_may> Bounjourno come se va?
[05:13] <mazal> uhm..ok...ook so
[05:13] <Kilos> you speak french
[05:13] <anton_may> Italiano
[05:13] <Kilos> poor bush
[05:13] <Kilos> ah
[05:13] <anton_may> Married into an Ita family
[05:13] <Kilos> thats wise for those that enjoy pasta
[05:14] <anton_may> Yes but not the waist and liver
[05:14] <mazal> We have Italian memorial here on our terrain
[05:14] <Kilos> lol
[05:14] <anton_may> Zandspruit?
[05:14] <mazal> Zonderwater
[05:14] <mazal> There was a concentration camp during the war
[05:15] <anton_may> Ja ok that is where the Ita WW2 soldiers are buried
[05:15] <anton_may> We go there every year
[05:15] <mazal> That's where I live and work
[05:16] <mazal> Just across the hill
[05:16] <anton_may> Oh ok so you know the PnP in Rayton
[05:16] <mazal> Yep
[05:17] <anton_may> Friend has a farm behind Baviaanspoort prison
[05:17] <anton_may> and also another friend used to live in Cullinan
[05:18] <mazal> Kewl , small world 
[05:19] <anton_may> Yip, there was a bar in Rayton that used to frequent. Closed now
[05:20] <mazal> Oi , some more updates
[05:20] <mazal> Thought it was finished now ai !
[05:20] <mazal> I need a " Make sure you do everything now " button
[05:56] <Kilos> oh my no dvd's this release
[05:56] <Kilos> will be usb sticks
[05:57] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:23] <mazal> Kilos, you mean there will be no dvd iso ?
[06:24] <Kilos> yeah looks like they gonna supply the iso on usb sticks
[06:24] <mazal> That sucks
[06:24] <Kilos> nono
[06:24] <Kilos> dvds are on the way out
[06:24] <Kilos> same as cds went
[06:24] <Kilos> soon only videos will be on dvd
[06:25] <mazal> Bad decision that
[06:25] <Kilos> i dont mind, this writers is broken anyway
[06:26] <mazal> They assume everyone will know how to take an iso to usb and how to setup their bios for usb booting
[06:26] <Kilos> but of course you will be able to download the iso and burn it to dvd yourself
[06:27] <Kilos> these sticks will be to replace the dvds cannonical shipped 
[06:27] <mazal> That's what I asked. Will there still be a dvd iso that one can burn yourself ?
[06:27] <Kilos> yes downloads will be the same
[06:28] <mazal> Ok then it's fine. Though the dvd iso will not be available anymore
[06:28] <Kilos> and i thinks the sticks will be small
[06:28] <Kilos> maybe 2g or 4g
[06:28] <mazal> Even my own remastered iso's I prefer on dvd. Way more reliable than usb sticks
[06:28] <Kilos> no man
[06:29] <Kilos> i use remaster on stick
[06:30] <mazal> And I had many issues in the past with ubuntu taking an iso to a stick. Failed many times
[06:30] <Kilos> did you use unetbootin
[06:30] <Kilos> i havent had one fail
[06:31] <mazal> Can't remember that app's name , but isn't very reliable
[06:31] <mazal> No the build-in one from Ubuntu
[06:31] <mazal> Then when that fails I revert to unetbootin and even that one sometime fail
[06:32] <Kilos> eish
[06:32] <mazal> The only advantage of stick is the install is way faster from one
[06:32] <Kilos> i always use unetbootin
[06:33] <mazal> Trying to remember the build-in app's name , but forgot now
[06:33] <Kilos> if you format the stick to fat 32 and add the mbr on it it works everytime with unetbootin
[06:33] <Kilos> usb creator
[06:33] <mazal> Something like that yes
[06:33] <Kilos> you first need to open disks and format to mbr
[06:34] <Kilos> stick must be bootable
[06:34] <mazal> DVD easier. Put in , burn , done
[06:34] <Kilos> lol
[06:34] <mazal> And cheaper
[06:34] <mazal> For multiple difirent iso's
[06:35] <Kilos> i think small sticks are going to be phased out soon
[06:35] <Kilos> so they will be very cheap when bought in bulk
[06:35] <Kilos> can you still buy 2g sticks
[06:36] <mazal> Not a fan of sticks at all. They only good for good transfer of small files from one pc to another
[06:36] <mazal> quick*
[06:36] <Kilos> nee man
[06:36] <Kilos> i made a working ubuntu on one and ian still uses it at customers
[06:36] <mazal> Way too slow
[06:37] <Kilos> slow yes
[06:37] <mazal> Did that once , never again
[06:37] <Kilos> will be better with usb3
[06:37] <mazal> Then I rather do it properly and use a external hdd
[06:37] <Kilos> same thing
[06:38] <Kilos> just faster
[06:38] <mazal> No , hdd way faster than stick
[06:39] <Kilos> and much more expensive
[06:39] <mazal> Much more versitile also
[06:39] <Kilos> when usb3 is the standard you wont worry about speed anymore
[06:39] <Kilos> usb2 is whats so slow
[06:40] <mazal> Either way , I will stick to DVD for iso's I want to keep
[06:41] <Kilos> yes i have many of old ubuntu releases but they not of any use really
[06:41] <mazal> But I guess it isn't long before you won't be able to buy dvd drives anymore
[06:42] <mazal> I despise the laptops that already comes out without them
[06:42] <Kilos> things are changing too fast for older people
[06:42] <mazal> It makes one struggle that's the problem. Reduces options
[06:42] <Kilos> we are creatures of habit
[06:42] <mazal> It doesn't make anything better
[06:43] <Kilos> external dvds work well though
[06:43] <mazal> Now when said laptop breaks down you can't use your dvd boot tools for example
[06:43] <Kilos> i tried ians one, works kiff
[06:44] <mazal> It reduces options and makes work more and harder
[06:44] <mazal> Doesn't improve anything
[06:45] <Kilos> we dont have much choice
[06:45] <mazal> One thing I have seen many times is that change does not always equal better
[06:46] <mazal> I needs coffee , have babelas and don't even drink
[06:51] <superfly> mazal: that's how I feel every morning -_-
[07:02] <mazal> Oi
[07:02] <mazal> I'm too old for the midnight thing man
[07:02] <mazal> maaz what's for breakfast
[07:02] <Maaz> mazal: *blink*
[07:09] <mazal> I wonder where is TheMurdz today ?
[07:16] <chesedo> morning Kilos mazal anton_may inetpro superfly and all others
[07:16] <mazal> Morning chesedo 
[07:18]  * mazal goes to recover some zzzzzzzzzzz's
[07:26] <superfly> chesedo: morning
[07:27] <superfly> chesedo: to answer your question: https://debconf16.debconf.org/get-involved/
[07:29] <chesedo> ty superfly
[07:29] <Kilos> hi chesedo superfly 
[07:30] <superfly> hi Kilos
[08:08] <anton_may> wazzup chesedo
[08:08] <chesedo> Books and self anton_may?
[09:02] <anton_may> sorting out a corrupt mysql db
[09:15] <chesedo> ouch
[10:12] <theblazehen> anton_may: What happened to it?
[10:12] <theblazehen> Hi guys
[10:29] <superfly> sup theblazehen
[10:29] <theblazehen> Hey superfly how's things going?
[10:29] <superfly> theblazehen: going
[10:30] <superfly> at work we've been working on our continuous integration/deployment system recently
[10:30] <superfly> we're using Go.CD and Docker
[10:30] <mazal> Telscummmmmmmmmmm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:30] <mazal> Will this battle never end
[10:30] <superfly> gotten to the point where we build the docker images for our system using GoCD in a docker container
[10:30] <superfly> mazal: no
[10:31] <mazal> *sigh*
[10:31] <mazal> How hard can it be for one person to just do their work , nothing more , nothing fancy , nothing great , just their job
[10:35] <mazal> In contrast Afrihost , I logged a call an hour ago. They replied and sorted the problem already. Done.
[10:35] <mazal> Shees
[10:38] <chesedo> hi theblazehen
[10:39] <kmf> hi chesedo 
[10:39] <chesedo> superfly: which base image are you guys using?
[10:39] <chesedo> oh hi kmf
[10:41]  * chesedo has been using alpine since learning about it at last SFD
[10:43] <chesedo> wow just saw your Ubuntu for Hope launch and release party
[10:46] <Langjan> Hi guys  
[10:47] <Langjan> relax Kilos ek het niks gebreek nie...
[10:47] <Kilos> haha hi Langjan 
[10:47] <Langjan> hoe gaan dit my vriend? enige goeie nuus?
[10:48] <Kilos> nog niks gehoor nie
[10:48] <Kilos> ai!
[10:48] <Langjan> ai!
[10:48] <Langjan> Maak jy nog vuur onder hulle gaaie?
[10:49] <Kilos> ek sal maandag weer begin
[10:49] <Kilos> maar dis weer weke van ongeantwoorde eposse
[10:49] <Langjan> inetpro, hoe gaan dit met jou bome?
[10:50] <Kilos> die blare loop weer uit
[10:50] <Kilos> goggas het eiers gele vir volgende jaar
[10:52] <Langjan> Ja hulle moet die bome stimuleer om beter te groei
[10:52] <Kilos> lol
[10:52] <Langjan> en kos verskaf vir die voëls
[10:53] <Langjan> en die geitjies en kogelmanders en ape
[10:53] <Kilos> hopelik eet die voels al die eiers
[10:54] <Langjan> nee man dan is daar nog 'n spesie op die bedreigde lys
[10:54] <Kilos> mooi
[10:54] <Kilos> ek glo in peste verwyder
[10:54] <Kilos> sukkel nog kwaai met vensters
[10:55] <Langjan> wat is peste? Mense is die ergste
[10:55] <Langjan> Vensters?
[10:55] <Kilos> die ding voor buntu
[10:55] <Kilos> engelse vensters
[10:55] <Langjan> O ou Bill se gemors? 
[10:56] <Kilos> ja daai ding
[10:56] <Langjan> Vensters van hekke
[10:56] <Langjan> ai wat doen jy daar?
[10:57] <Kilos> probeer n xp pc reg maak, maar sukkel kwaai
[10:57] <Kilos> en pas 30 skape op laat hulle nie kruie eet nit
[10:57] <Kilos> nie
[10:58] <mazal> Om Kilos is hier nie dop iewers nie , het dit nodig
[10:58] <mazal> Hi Langjan 
[11:01] <Kilos> lol
[11:02] <mazal> Telscum maak vir my klaar
[11:02] <mazal> Het skoon vergeet waarmee ek besig was die clowns my gebel het
[11:23] <anton_may> The vm was off for some reason, all fixed now
[11:28] <Langjan> hi mazal, jammer ek het eers gaan middagete nuttig 
[11:33] <Langjan> Julle manne moet die dag verder geniet
[12:15] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd fusionsparc 
[12:15] <Kilos> mazwen jy
[12:15] <Kilos> ai!
[12:15] <fusionsparc> Hey Kilos
[12:16] <fusionsparc> How's you're week?
[12:16] <Kilos> bit busy so far
[12:16] <Kilos> dont even get to have my afternoon ballie nap
[12:17] <superfly> I need one of those
[12:17] <fusionsparc> what the temp. like there?
[12:17] <Kilos> 29°c
[12:18] <fusionsparc> ok, thats mild for that region.. :)
[12:18] <Kilos> na its near winter
[12:18] <Kilos> we even had some 40+ this summer
[12:18] <fusionsparc> would believe that, winter is probably our spring...
[12:19] <Kilos> autumn yeah
[12:19] <Kilos> where are you again?
[12:19] <fusionsparc> Pta
[12:20] <Kilos> oh same place
[12:20] <Kilos> i think we could have a cold one this year
[12:20] <Kilos> some black frosts
[12:20] <fusionsparc> Might be so...been getting chilly sooner than usual...
[12:20] <Kilos> yeah
[12:21] <fusionsparc> brb
[13:07] <magespawn> good afternoon
[13:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[15:39] <Kilos> hi Cryterion skokkk 
[15:55] <Kilos> everyday i think i know a bit more then wake up to find i know lots less
[15:55] <Kilos> sigh
[15:57] <mazal> What oom struggling with ?
[16:06] <Kilos> long story about xp
[16:07] <Kilos> couldnt do recovery or reinstall as drive wasnt seen
[16:07] <Kilos> the drive refused to repair or even reinstall, so i thought ill install xp on to one of my drives but its sata, then i connected her ide drive so i could use it as d drive and transfer all her stuff over
[16:08] <Kilos> and pc booted to the faulty drive and reboots fine with my drive removed
[16:08] <Kilos> ai!
[16:09] <Kilos> so what did i fix
[16:09] <Kilos> i like to know when i do something
[16:09] <mazal> Sounds like that drive is sick
[16:09] <Kilos> running a full chkdsk on it now
[16:10] <Kilos> yes boot sector went back
[16:10] <Kilos> irrecoverable error
[16:10] <Kilos> s/back/bad
[16:10] <Kilos> even seatools couldnt fix it
[16:10] <Kilos> so what did
[16:11] <Kilos> magic
[16:13] <Kilos> i didnt even say magic smagic 
[16:16] <Kilos> kom sie kom sa en siedaar
[16:20] <Kilos> nou sal die tannie dink ek is slim
[16:20] <Kilos> ai!
[16:29]  * Cryterion thinks xp is microsofts 4th worst os
[16:29] <Kilos> oh is there actually a worst one
[16:30] <Cryterion> 7, 8 and 10 is 1st atm
[16:30] <Kilos> ai!
[16:30] <Cryterion> I'd rather work with xp than 7
[16:32] <Kilos> you are brave
[16:32] <Kilos> i wish someone would bring me a buntu pc to fix
[17:42] <pavlushka> Hello every one!!!
[17:46] <mazal> Hi pavlushka 
[17:46] <pavlushka> Hello mazal !
[17:46] <pavlushka> Hi Kilos !
[17:46] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[17:47] <pavlushka> tomorrow is our Bengali New year!!! \o/
[17:47] <Kilos> have a happy new year
[17:49] <pavlushka> Thank you Kilos , Shuvo Nobo Borsho!
[18:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:20] <MaNI> ping squish102 - do you still freight forward? :p
[20:44] <pavlushka> Goodnight guys!