[00:02] <ratrace> Hello. I've got a weird problem. Can't seem to upgrade a 14.04 installation to 16.04. `do-release-upgrade -d` says No new release found.
[00:04] <nacc> ratrace: i think it's because changelogs.ubuntu.com is down (iiuc)
[00:05] <ratrace> nacc: I see. Perfect timing. Thanks.
[00:05] <nacc> ratrace: catastrophic disk failure :/ folks are working on it, aiui
[00:10] <ratrace> Ouch.
[00:29] <nelsk> If I install the 16.04 beta 2 and update/upgrade -- will that just roll me into the full release when it's finished?
[00:29] <nelsk> Or do I have to do anything special to upgrade to the full version?
[00:33] <k1l_> !final
[00:34] <nelsk> ubottu: thank you
[00:41] <viscera> robots need love, too
[00:53] <ratrace> !botsnack
[00:53] <ratrace> traitor.
[01:43] <salamanderrake> anyone else have issues with vim locking up?
[02:24] <KD8NXH> how risky is a 16.04 update right now?
[02:26] <KD8NXH> it should be pretty stable by now right?
[02:50] <salamanderrake> I have had no real issues
[02:50] <salamanderrake> two of which that I noticed were my fault
[03:16] <liuxg_> I have already upgraded system to 16.04, and now I have error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823368/
[03:27] <virtuosoj> 16.04 is amazing
[05:12] <CountryfiedLinux> Howdy
[05:12] <CountryfiedLinux> Will Xubuntu 16.04 have Gtk3 or will that have to wait until October?
[06:03] <pavlushka> and my Ubuntu Bengali translation now is at stake.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> !details | pavlushka ?
[06:11] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: The Jatiya (National) Keyboard Layout support for Bengali Language has been removed in Xubuntu 16.04 Beta which was there in Xubuntu 16.04 Alpha. I dont know if it's same about Ubuntu.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: file a bug before next weeks release perhaps
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: did you test this on daily iso also?
[06:12] <pavlushka> yes
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: i see bengali language in 16.04 daily?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: india,baishaki,bornona,...
[06:15] <pavlushka> like to add, I was using this layout in Ubuntu from the very beginning, like 9.04-9.10 though i started with 8.04.
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: bengali(india) is the layout you need?
[06:16] <pavlushka> no Bengali(Bangladesh)
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> i dont see bangladesh
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: test again with a daily iso from the topic url
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: i see a whole list for bengali..
[06:20] <pavlushka> okay I am sending you a link of screenshot, give me a minuts.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> k
[06:49] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: Oh I am using yesterdays iso, and the link is http://imgur.com/PmwwLPR
[06:51] <flocculant> pavlushka: so - the same as was available in 15.10 > http://i.imgur.com/fV4VB6X.png
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: i have more sub-layouts for bengali..
[06:52] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: I don't - -on xubuntu
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> oh
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> right im on ubuntu-desktop here sorry
[06:53] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: yea I assumed
[06:53] <flocculant> 14.04 is the same here just for completeness sake
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> perhaps you guys should bug that
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> we want all languages available on all flavors right?
[06:57] <pavlushka> flocculant: a late yes for http://i.imgur.com/fV4VB6X.png
[06:57] <pavlushka> flocculant: I am in mess.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> isnt there like a language pack you can download after xubuntu install?
[07:02] <pavlushka> yes I have.
[07:05] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: but revealing a funny secrete, the probhat keyboard layout was actually was National Layout before but now its actually probhat layout, becaouse I was using that probhat layout for typing in xubuntu xenial alpha.
[07:06] <pavlushka> means probhat keyboard layout was not what it should be in actual.
[07:06] <pavlushka> now it is.
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> i really suggest a !bug pavlushka
[07:07] <pavlushka> and now the Bengali National Layout is gone, and yes I am filing the bug.
[07:10] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: sorry, but under which package i will file the bug?
[07:10] <flocculant> pavlushka: do you have ibus installed?
[07:10] <flocculant> you won't by default
[07:11] <pavlushka> flocculant: no.
[07:11] <flocculant> try installing that then
[07:11] <flocculant> ubuntu has it
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> !info ibus | pavlushka tnx2 flocculant
[07:12] <pavlushka> flocculant: but it was working without that even in alpha
[07:12] <flocculant> pavlushka: maybe so
[07:12] <pavlushka> I know about idbus.
[07:12] <pavlushka> I know about ibus.
[07:13] <pavlushka> I am an ubuntu user still.
[07:15] <pavlushka> flocculant: but funny thing is the probhat keyboard layout was actually National before beta release and now its actually probhat layout.
[07:15] <pavlushka> Our National (Jatiya is gone.)
[07:18] <pavlushka> flocculant: just if you like to know, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_input_methods
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: what kind of graphics card chipset?
[07:19] <ToeSnacks> Nvidia GTX980Ti
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: you could try to get in with nomodeset perhaps
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | ToeSnacks
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: then install an nvidia driver
[07:21] <ToeSnacks> Thanks I will give that a try
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: perhaps nvidia-352
[07:22] <ToeSnacks> Any idea why this would be an issue for the final install if the USB stick boots without issue?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: its not final release yet, things can still break
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: and even after the final, new bugs will occur
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: you can also try a latest daily .iso instead of beta2 as a test
[07:24] <ToeSnacks> Alright thanks
[07:24] <flocculant> pavlushka: so your issue is really that probhat is now probhat and not whatever you say it was before?
[07:24] <pavlushka> lol, yes!
[07:25] <flocculant> pavlushka: just report that I guess - not sure what package tbh - keyboard-configuration perhaps, that's what I would it against at lease
[07:25] <pavlushka> flocculant: copy.
[07:25] <ToeSnacks> lotuspsychje: I just hard reset the box and the screen is not black I just hangs on a purple blank screen pre grub
[07:26] <flocculant> but - it must be a generic *buntu issue, not Xubuntu as we have the same probhat layout as ubuntu
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: can you F1 to see text boot errors?
[07:26] <ToeSnacks> Nothing happens, let me reset again.
[07:28] <pavlushka> And flocculant : these two bug returned, bug #1567516, bug #1556531
[07:28] <pavlushka> as I have not switched to gdm from lightdm.
[07:29] <ToeSnacks> Got into grub this time and tried adding the nomodeset to the launch string and it's hanging at loading initial ramdisk
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: you could try entering recoverymode/terminal and install nvidia-352 perhaps
[07:31] <ToeSnacks> Loading into recovery let me in
[07:31] <ToeSnacks> I'll try the driver now
[07:32] <ToeSnacks> Thank you for your help
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: lets hope it gets fixxed
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: did you install with internet/updates/3rd party software enabled during setup?
[07:35] <ToeSnacks> I did once and it didn't work so I reinstalled without just to check
[07:35] <ToeSnacks> So currently no
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: its recommended to enable updates during setup
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> so ubuntu can find best driver
[07:37] <ToeSnacks> Yeah I always do that but it failed with those options enabled as well
[07:37] <ToeSnacks> So I was trying to see if there was a corrupt package coming from the newest branch
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: would also be good to test a todays daily iso
[07:39] <ToeSnacks> Also important info I failed to mention is I'm using lvm and full disk encryption
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> oh
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: dont know very much on lvm myself
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> !lvm
[07:40] <ToeSnacks> I feel the issue may be the decryption prompt
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> could be
[07:40] <ToeSnacks> Where I enter the drive password
[07:41] <ToeSnacks> Cause dropping to recovery then entering the password then resuming normal boot works
[07:43] <ToeSnacks> Running a full dist upgrade now to see if it helps
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> kk
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> g4143: always backup before upgrade ok
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> oO
[10:41] <petersaints> Hi guys. Has anyone experienced sleep issues with 16.04? It worked well on 15.10, but once I upgraded to 16.04 sleep stopped working. I mean, when I try to suspend the screen turns off but my laptop's power indicator remains one and the fans keep spinning. Has anyone else experienced a similar behavior?
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Heyas all
[10:53] <freaj> hey BluesKaj!
[10:54] <BluesKaj> Hi freaj
[11:05] <spidla> Hello everyone, anyone having problem with connecting to PPTP VPNs through network-manager. pppd crashing with error 11 since yesterday or maybe today updates (not sure).
[11:07] <BluesKaj> pptp, hmm old and unstable
[11:09] <spidla> Hmm, yeah but still used a lot. Was working with no problems until now.
[11:20] <brianx> iirc, pptp vpns have the same congestion issues that ssh tunnels do.  tcp inside tcp is never good.
[11:21] <brianx> works fine untill things get busy.
[11:37] <spidla> Allright, I am glad I have started a discussion about PPTP reliability. :-) But let`s get back to the original question. Why is pppd crashing in Ubuntu 16.04 since maybe 1-2 days ago.
[11:44] <freaj> spidla: was it crashing before? Does it crash at start? after some time? Only when you download a lot?
[11:45] <freaj> petersaints: Hi, is it a laptop?
[12:03] <spidla> freaj: It is a laptop. It crashes when I click network manager and I choose to connect PPTP-based VPN. All other VPNs (IPsec, OpenVPN) are doing fine. No VPNs are started after laptop startup.
[12:03] <spidla> freaj: pppd never crashed before
[12:04] <spidla> freaj: Network manager show notification message that VPN has been stopped. In syslog I found, that pppd segfaulted
[12:05] <freaj> have you upgraded pppd recently?
[12:05] <freaj> In 16.04 this might be why it is crashing: a buggy update
[12:06] <spidla> Not sure if I updated exactly pppd, buggy update is highly possible.
[12:07] <spidla> I just found better description of segfault. It is saying something about error in nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so
[12:07] <spidla> So it is maybe network manager error.
[12:07] <spidla> .. which in the end crashes pppd.
[12:08] <freaj> It might be either the applet or the daemon
[12:09] <freaj> Can you check in your /var/log/apt/history.log if it has been upgraded recently?
[12:09] <spidla> Yeah that is what I am doing now :-)
[12:09] <freaj> okay
[12:10] <spidla> Found It. network-manager-pptp upgraded yesterday
[12:10] <spidla> Maybe I can fallback to previous version.
[12:10] <freaj> Hmm
[12:10] <spidla> It has upgraded from 1.0.8 to 1.1.93. Seems like a big jump.
[12:11] <freaj> I don't really know about ubuntu, is there a cached .deb version in /var/cache/?
[12:11] <freaj> Oh, there is!
[12:11] <freaj> spidla: try to look into /var/cache/apt/archives/ for the .deb file
[12:12] <freaj> And then "dpkg -i [your_file]
[12:12] <spidla> Good idea, however only newest version is present in the folder.
[12:13] <freaj> haha
[12:14] <freaj> I don't know how to find an older version in ubuntu as well.. maybe you can check in an outdated repo :P
[12:15] <spidla> I am trying to hack URL at launchpad :-)
[12:15] <brainwash> update to 1.1.93-1ubuntu1
[12:15] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/1568336
[12:18] <spidla> Wow, I dist-upgraded few hour age. And you are right, there is an update available
[12:19] <spidla> It is wokring again. Unbeleviable patch speed :-)
[12:20] <brainwash> \o/
[12:20] <spidla> Okay, thanks to everyone
[13:22] <petersaints> @freaj Yes, it's a laptop.
[13:50] <quall_> Two questions for you guys:
[13:52] <quall_> 1. is the release candidate expected for anytime soon? say in three hours?; 2. assume that i install the release candidate, no bug encountered, everything goes smooth in the developing process etc. When I upgrade next week to the stable, do I get the same uname, lsb_release, and repositories as everyone else?
[13:52] <Pici> 2) yes
[13:52] <Pici> !final
[13:53] <quall_> thank you!
[13:58] <freaj> ubottu is nice
[13:58] <freaj> 15:58 ubottu ∷ Sorry, I don't know anything about is nice
[13:58] <freaj> :(
[13:58] <quall_> a cute bundle of wires
[13:58] <Pici> !botsnack
[14:01] <quall_> just another question (I've not burned my ISO yet). What do I read if I launch lsb_release on today's build? And are the repos sources already codenamed Xenial?
[14:10] <vooze> Hi, I'm preparing to move to 16.04 quite soon (from 14.04) and I noticed that Qt4 apps don't work anymore (copyq and virtualbox) Is there something I can do, or do I just need to wait for the devs of copyq + virtualbox to fix it?
[14:42] <petersaints> freaj: So, as I said it's a laptop. Any tips on how to debug sleep issues? Where are those things logged in order to check what may be hanging the suspend process?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> petersaints: dmesg or syslog should show usefull stuff
[14:44] <Osirus126> im in need of some help regarding installing a package called kodi-rbp on my ubuntu mate for raspberry pi 3 desktop
[14:44] <ikonia> !info kodi-rbp
[14:44] <ikonia> it's not in 16.04 repos
[14:44] <ikonia> you must have used a different repo
[14:45] <Osirus126> thats what i am having trouble understanding because i had installed it just the other day using apt-get install
[14:45] <ikonia> probably used a different repo
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: apt-cache search kodi shows a whole list...any packagename you seeking there?
[14:45] <Osirus126> no
[14:45] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, no the package isnt there
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: whats it for exactly?
[14:46] <Cyna> Which package are you looking for ?
[14:46] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, a google search shows it is in the arch arm repos but i dont know how i can install that under ubuntu mate
[14:46] <Osirus126> Cyna, it is called "kodi-rbp"
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: well this is ubuntu, not arch right
[14:47] <Osirus126> yes i understand that
[14:47] <Osirus126> but im trying to figure out a way to have it installed under ubuntu mate
[14:47] <Osirus126> seeing as i have had it installed in the past
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !arm | Osirus126 perhaps they might know?
[14:48] <petersaints> ok lotuspsychje. I'll se what I can find when I boot into Ubuntu later today.
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: you want to remote access your kodi, thats it?
[14:54] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, no i want to install kodi under ubuntu mate for raspberry pi 3 but when i install the default kodi package it seems not to work. but i had previously installed the kodi-rbp package and it is optimized for use with raspberry pi
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: can this help you, i see the package there? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/9551028
[14:59] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, yes this might!!
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: use at own risk ppa's right :p
[14:59] <Cyna> Osirus126, you're problem is that you can't find kodi rbp in the packet list right ? Did you try adding the arch-linux repository to you apt sources list ?
[15:00] <Osirus126> Cyna, i was trying to find how i could add arch repos but was unsuccessful
[15:01] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, how would i add that archive to my sources list?
[15:01] <Cyna> Whats the problem : finding the report address or adding it to the sources list ?
[15:01] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, the link you gave me is the closest ive been to success so far
[15:01] <Cyna> Repo*
[15:03] <Osirus126> Cyna, i was having trouble finding the address.. i know how to add it to sources list once i have it, but i was under the assumption that it wouldnt work because arch uses pacman instead of apt-get
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: hmm, seems like its for the pi2 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:04] <Osirus126> pi2 or pi3 it still should work
[15:05] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, i can probably just download the .deb and install it that way correct??
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: you could try, but again remember this isnt official way right
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: we dont support external ppa's
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: its your system, if you really need it, i would try
[15:11] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, it seems that the ppa is already in my sources list but i still cant seem to find the package using apt-cache search
[15:12] <Osirus126> lotuspsychje, wierd
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> Osirus126: did you sudo apt-get update?
[15:14] <Osirus126> yes
[15:25] <Cyna> Osirus126, how did you find out it was already in the source list ?
[15:26] <Osirus126> Cyna, i opened my software and sources program and looked under the other software tab. and it is there
[15:26] <Osirus126> Cyna, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main
[15:26] <Osirus126> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main
[15:27] <Osirus126> the file is in this archive https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/9551028
[15:28] <Osirus126> kodi-rbp_16.0+upfm1-1+rpi2~xenial1.8_armhf.deb
[15:30] <Cyna> Can you find any of the ppa packages using apt-cache ? Like astropi for example ? Did you see any error message related to this ppa while doing apt-get update ?
[16:31] <Guest55434> when! April 14th Warning /!\ FinalFreeze, Warning /!\ ReleaseCandidate,
[16:34] <Guest55434> 6:33 PM Thursday, April 14, 2016 (GMT+2) Time in O.R. Tambo International Airport, O R Tambo Airport Rd, Johannesburg, South Africa
[16:34] <Guest55434> must be the night shift releasing
[16:35] <Pici> Canonical's main offices are in London
[16:35] <Guest55434> 5:35 PM Thursday, April 14, 2016 (GMT+1) Time in London, UK
[16:45] <SCHAAP137> hmm, network-manager-openvpn still cannot use the (valid OpenVPN option) tls-cipher...
[16:46] <SCHAAP137> was hoping someone else might have noticed (besides TJ-) and patched it upstream, but that still hasn't occurred yet
[17:15] <G__81> hi i am running 16.04 beta with all updates installed and today i dont see the menubar for Gnome-terminal alone
[17:15] <G__81> For other apps it works fine, gnome-terminal alone does not show the menu bar either in window title or in the global menu bar
[17:17] <G__81> cd qu
[17:22] <vooze> Hi, I'm preparing to move to 16.04 quite soon (from 14.04) and I noticed that Qt4 apps don't work anymore (copyq and virtualbox) Is there something I can do, or do I just need to wait for the devs of copyq + virtualbox to fix it?
[20:18] <nath5> hello, I tried to install gnome shell on 16.04  using the instructions found here http://askubuntu.com/questions/614657/install-gnome-desktop-ubuntu-15-04 when I logged in everything was really zoomed in and very unstable.  Are there newer instructions for 16.04
[21:17] <ardhipoetra> howdy, is the release candidate out yet?
[21:21] <croberts> when do we get the fancy looking unity i think unity 8
[21:22] <k1l> !unity8 | croberts
[21:22] <k1l> you can test it right now. its in use on ubuntu phones and tablets already. but its not the standard desktop yet
[21:23] <croberts> cool ty ill give it a try
[22:57] <qell__> Hello! I just installed 16.04, and I'm working on a AMD-Radeon equipped laptop. I understand that the proprietary drivers are no longer supported, but I can't find the open ones! THe ubuntu drivers utility doesn't list drivers for the graphic card
[22:59] <nacc> qell__: because it's shipped with kernel, right?
[22:59] <nacc> qell__: lhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[23:00] <nacc> err ignore that first l :)
[23:00] <qell__> oh is it? ok but..
[23:00] <qell__> i've tried using the radeontop utility and it says "no gpu detected"
[23:01] <nacc> qell__: well, via radeon & amdgpu aiui; which should show up in `lsmod`, i think?
[23:01] <qell__> honestly (I know this is not supposed to be a support channel for newbies but...) I don't know how to check if my GPU is being used and through which driver
[23:02] <nacc> qell__: can you see if `lsmod` indicates either of those modules are loaded (radeon or amdgpu) ?
[23:02] <qell__> amdkfd and amd_iommu_v2 are listed
[23:03] <qell__> also radeon, right!
[23:03] <nacc> qell__: yeah so the version of hw you have determines which driver gets loaded, aiui
[23:03] <nacc> so radeon being loaded is fine
[23:04] <qell__> perfect. But is there an utility to check if it's working?
[23:04] <nacc> qell__: i have no idea, sorry :)
[23:06] <qell__> thank you anyway!