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ratraceHello. I've got a weird problem. Can't seem to upgrade a 14.04 installation to 16.04. `do-release-upgrade -d` says No new release found.00:02
naccratrace: i think it's because changelogs.ubuntu.com is down (iiuc)00:04
ratracenacc: I see. Perfect timing. Thanks.00:05
naccratrace: catastrophic disk failure :/ folks are working on it, aiui00:05
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ratraceOuch.00:10
nelskIf I install the 16.04 beta 2 and update/upgrade -- will that just roll me into the full release when it's finished?00:29
nelskOr do I have to do anything special to upgrade to the full version?00:29
k1l_!final00:33
ubottuIf you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal.00:33
nelskubottu: thank you00:34
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)00:34
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ratrace!botsnack00:53
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!00:53
ratracetraitor.00:53
salamanderrakeanyone else have issues with vim locking up?01:43
KD8NXHhow risky is a 16.04 update right now?02:24
KD8NXHit should be pretty stable by now right?02:26
salamanderrakeI have had no real issues02:50
salamanderraketwo of which that I noticed were my fault02:50
liuxg_I have already upgraded system to 16.04, and now I have error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823368/03:16
virtuosoj16.04 is amazing03:27
CountryfiedLinuxHowdy05:12
CountryfiedLinuxWill Xubuntu 16.04 have Gtk3 or will that have to wait until October?05:12
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pavlushkaand my Ubuntu Bengali translation now is at stake.06:03
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lotuspsychje!details | pavlushka ?06:07
ubottupavlushka ?: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)06:07
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pavlushkalotuspsychje: The Jatiya (National) Keyboard Layout support for Bengali Language has been removed in Xubuntu 16.04 Beta which was there in Xubuntu 16.04 Alpha. I dont know if it's same about Ubuntu.06:11
lotuspsychjepavlushka: file a bug before next weeks release perhaps06:12
lotuspsychjepavlushka: did you test this on daily iso also?06:12
pavlushkayes06:12
lotuspsychjepavlushka: i see bengali language in 16.04 daily?06:14
lotuspsychjepavlushka: india,baishaki,bornona,...06:15
pavlushkalike to add, I was using this layout in Ubuntu from the very beginning, like 9.04-9.10 though i started with 8.04.06:15
lotuspsychjepavlushka: bengali(india) is the layout you need?06:15
pavlushkano Bengali(Bangladesh)06:16
lotuspsychjei dont see bangladesh06:16
lotuspsychjepavlushka: test again with a daily iso from the topic url06:18
lotuspsychjepavlushka: i see a whole list for bengali..06:18
pavlushkaokay I am sending you a link of screenshot, give me a minuts.06:20
lotuspsychjek06:21
pavlushkalotuspsychje: Oh I am using yesterdays iso, and the link is http://imgur.com/PmwwLPR06:49
flocculantpavlushka: so - the same as was available in 15.10 > http://i.imgur.com/fV4VB6X.png06:51
lotuspsychjepavlushka: i have more sub-layouts for bengali..06:51
flocculantlotuspsychje: I don't - -on xubuntu06:52
lotuspsychjeoh06:53
lotuspsychjeright im on ubuntu-desktop here sorry06:53
flocculantlotuspsychje: yea I assumed06:53
flocculant14.04 is the same here just for completeness sake06:53
lotuspsychjeperhaps you guys should bug that06:54
lotuspsychjewe want all languages available on all flavors right?06:54
pavlushkaflocculant: a late yes for http://i.imgur.com/fV4VB6X.png06:57
pavlushkaflocculant: I am in mess.06:57
lotuspsychjeisnt there like a language pack you can download after xubuntu install?07:00
pavlushkayes I have.07:02
pavlushkalotuspsychje: but revealing a funny secrete, the probhat keyboard layout was actually was National Layout before but now its actually probhat layout, becaouse I was using that probhat layout for typing in xubuntu xenial alpha.07:05
pavlushkameans probhat keyboard layout was not what it should be in actual.07:06
pavlushkanow it is.07:06
lotuspsychjei really suggest a !bug pavlushka07:06
pavlushkaand now the Bengali National Layout is gone, and yes I am filing the bug.07:07
pavlushkalotuspsychje: sorry, but under which package i will file the bug?07:10
flocculantpavlushka: do you have ibus installed?07:10
flocculantyou won't by default07:10
pavlushkaflocculant: no.07:11
flocculanttry installing that then07:11
flocculantubuntu has it07:11
lotuspsychje!info ibus | pavlushka tnx2 flocculant07:11
ubottupavlushka tnx2 flocculant: ibus (source: ibus): Intelligent Input Bus - core. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.11-1ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 212 kB, installed size 1360 kB07:11
pavlushkaflocculant: but it was working without that even in alpha07:12
flocculantpavlushka: maybe so07:12
pavlushkaI know about idbus.07:12
pavlushkaI know about ibus.07:12
pavlushkaI am an ubuntu user still.07:13
pavlushkaflocculant: but funny thing is the probhat keyboard layout was actually National before beta release and now its actually probhat layout.07:15
pavlushkaOur National (Jatiya is gone.)07:15
pavlushkaflocculant: just if you like to know, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_input_methods07:18
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: what kind of graphics card chipset?07:19
ToeSnacksNvidia GTX980Ti07:19
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: you could try to get in with nomodeset perhaps07:20
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | ToeSnacks07:20
ubottuToeSnacks: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter07:20
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: then install an nvidia driver07:21
ToeSnacksThanks I will give that a try07:21
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: perhaps nvidia-35207:21
ToeSnacksAny idea why this would be an issue for the final install if the USB stick boots without issue?07:22
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: its not final release yet, things can still break07:23
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: and even after the final, new bugs will occur07:23
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: you can also try a latest daily .iso instead of beta2 as a test07:24
ToeSnacksAlright thanks07:24
flocculantpavlushka: so your issue is really that probhat is now probhat and not whatever you say it was before?07:24
pavlushkalol, yes!07:24
flocculantpavlushka: just report that I guess - not sure what package tbh - keyboard-configuration perhaps, that's what I would it against at lease07:25
pavlushkaflocculant: copy.07:25
ToeSnackslotuspsychje: I just hard reset the box and the screen is not black I just hangs on a purple blank screen pre grub07:25
flocculantbut - it must be a generic *buntu issue, not Xubuntu as we have the same probhat layout as ubuntu07:26
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: can you F1 to see text boot errors?07:26
ToeSnacksNothing happens, let me reset again.07:26
pavlushkaAnd flocculant : these two bug returned, bug #1567516, bug #155653107:28
ubottubug 1567516 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "The default indicators set has a blank button." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156751607:28
ubottubug 1556531 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "Login screen needs a click to get alive, otherwise remains black." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155653107:28
pavlushkaas I have not switched to gdm from lightdm.07:28
ToeSnacksGot into grub this time and tried adding the nomodeset to the launch string and it's hanging at loading initial ramdisk07:29
lotuspsychjeouch07:29
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: you could try entering recoverymode/terminal and install nvidia-352 perhaps07:30
ToeSnacksLoading into recovery let me in07:31
ToeSnacksI'll try the driver now07:31
ToeSnacksThank you for your help07:32
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: lets hope it gets fixxed07:32
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: did you install with internet/updates/3rd party software enabled during setup?07:33
ToeSnacksI did once and it didn't work so I reinstalled without just to check07:35
ToeSnacksSo currently no07:35
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: its recommended to enable updates during setup07:36
lotuspsychjeso ubuntu can find best driver07:36
ToeSnacksYeah I always do that but it failed with those options enabled as well07:37
ToeSnacksSo I was trying to see if there was a corrupt package coming from the newest branch07:37
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: would also be good to test a todays daily iso07:38
ToeSnacksAlso important info I failed to mention is I'm using lvm and full disk encryption07:39
lotuspsychjeoh07:39
lotuspsychjeToeSnacks: dont know very much on lvm myself07:39
lotuspsychje!lvm07:40
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto07:40
ToeSnacksI feel the issue may be the decryption prompt07:40
lotuspsychjecould be07:40
ToeSnacksWhere I enter the drive password07:40
ToeSnacksCause dropping to recovery then entering the password then resuming normal boot works07:41
ToeSnacksRunning a full dist upgrade now to see if it helps07:43
lotuspsychjekk07:44
lotuspsychjeg4143: always backup before upgrade ok07:46
lotuspsychjeoO07:46
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petersaintsHi guys. Has anyone experienced sleep issues with 16.04? It worked well on 15.10, but once I upgraded to 16.04 sleep stopped working. I mean, when I try to suspend the screen turns off but my laptop's power indicator remains one and the fans keep spinning. Has anyone else experienced a similar behavior?10:41
BluesKajHeyas all10:51
freajhey BluesKaj!10:53
BluesKajHi freaj10:54
spidlaHello everyone, anyone having problem with connecting to PPTP VPNs through network-manager. pppd crashing with error 11 since yesterday or maybe today updates (not sure).11:05
BluesKajpptp, hmm old and unstable11:07
spidlaHmm, yeah but still used a lot. Was working with no problems until now.11:09
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brianxiirc, pptp vpns have the same congestion issues that ssh tunnels do.  tcp inside tcp is never good.11:20
brianxworks fine untill things get busy.11:21
spidlaAllright, I am glad I have started a discussion about PPTP reliability. :-) But let`s get back to the original question. Why is pppd crashing in Ubuntu 16.04 since maybe 1-2 days ago.11:37
freajspidla: was it crashing before? Does it crash at start? after some time? Only when you download a lot?11:44
freajpetersaints: Hi, is it a laptop?11:45
spidlafreaj: It is a laptop. It crashes when I click network manager and I choose to connect PPTP-based VPN. All other VPNs (IPsec, OpenVPN) are doing fine. No VPNs are started after laptop startup.12:03
spidlafreaj: pppd never crashed before12:03
spidlafreaj: Network manager show notification message that VPN has been stopped. In syslog I found, that pppd segfaulted12:04
freajhave you upgraded pppd recently?12:05
freajIn 16.04 this might be why it is crashing: a buggy update12:05
spidlaNot sure if I updated exactly pppd, buggy update is highly possible.12:06
spidlaI just found better description of segfault. It is saying something about error in nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so12:07
spidlaSo it is maybe network manager error.12:07
spidla.. which in the end crashes pppd.12:07
freajIt might be either the applet or the daemon12:08
freajCan you check in your /var/log/apt/history.log if it has been upgraded recently?12:09
spidlaYeah that is what I am doing now :-)12:09
freajokay12:09
spidlaFound It. network-manager-pptp upgraded yesterday12:10
spidlaMaybe I can fallback to previous version.12:10
freajHmm12:10
spidlaIt has upgraded from 1.0.8 to 1.1.93. Seems like a big jump.12:10
freajI don't really know about ubuntu, is there a cached .deb version in /var/cache/?12:11
freajOh, there is!12:11
freajspidla: try to look into /var/cache/apt/archives/ for the .deb file12:11
freajAnd then "dpkg -i [your_file]12:12
spidlaGood idea, however only newest version is present in the folder.12:12
freajhaha12:13
freajI don't know how to find an older version in ubuntu as well.. maybe you can check in an outdated repo :P12:14
spidlaI am trying to hack URL at launchpad :-)12:15
brainwashupdate to 1.1.93-1ubuntu112:15
brainwashhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/156833612:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1568336 in ppp (Debian) "pppd crashed with SIGSEGV in plugin_init()" [Unknown,New]12:15
spidlaWow, I dist-upgraded few hour age. And you are right, there is an update available12:18
spidlaIt is wokring again. Unbeleviable patch speed :-)12:19
brainwash\o/12:20
spidlaOkay, thanks to everyone12:20
petersaints@freaj Yes, it's a laptop.13:22
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quall_Two questions for you guys:13:50
quall_1. is the release candidate expected for anytime soon? say in three hours?; 2. assume that i install the release candidate, no bug encountered, everything goes smooth in the developing process etc. When I upgrade next week to the stable, do I get the same uname, lsb_release, and repositories as everyone else?13:52
Pici2) yes13:52
Pici!final13:52
ubottuIf you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal.13:52
quall_thank you!13:53
freajubottu is nice13:58
freaj15:58 ubottu ∷ Sorry, I don't know anything about is nice13:58
freaj:(13:58
quall_a cute bundle of wires13:58
Pici!botsnack13:58
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!13:58
quall_just another question (I've not burned my ISO yet). What do I read if I launch lsb_release on today's build? And are the repos sources already codenamed Xenial?14:01
voozeHi, I'm preparing to move to 16.04 quite soon (from 14.04) and I noticed that Qt4 apps don't work anymore (copyq and virtualbox) Is there something I can do, or do I just need to wait for the devs of copyq + virtualbox to fix it?14:10
petersaintsfreaj: So, as I said it's a laptop. Any tips on how to debug sleep issues? Where are those things logged in order to check what may be hanging the suspend process?14:42
lotuspsychjepetersaints: dmesg or syslog should show usefull stuff14:42
Osirus126im in need of some help regarding installing a package called kodi-rbp on my ubuntu mate for raspberry pi 3 desktop14:44
ikonia!info kodi-rbp14:44
ubottuPackage kodi-rbp does not exist in xenial14:44
ikoniait's not in 16.04 repos14:44
ikoniayou must have used a different repo14:44
Osirus126thats what i am having trouble understanding because i had installed it just the other day using apt-get install14:45
ikoniaprobably used a different repo14:45
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: apt-cache search kodi shows a whole list...any packagename you seeking there?14:45
Osirus126no14:45
Osirus126lotuspsychje, no the package isnt there14:45
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: whats it for exactly?14:46
CynaWhich package are you looking for ?14:46
Osirus126lotuspsychje, a google search shows it is in the arch arm repos but i dont know how i can install that under ubuntu mate14:46
Osirus126Cyna, it is called "kodi-rbp"14:46
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: well this is ubuntu, not arch right14:46
Osirus126yes i understand that14:47
Osirus126but im trying to figure out a way to have it installed under ubuntu mate14:47
Osirus126seeing as i have had it installed in the past14:47
lotuspsychje!arm | Osirus126 perhaps they might know?14:47
ubottuOsirus126 perhaps they might know?: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.14:47
petersaintsok lotuspsychje. I'll se what I can find when I boot into Ubuntu later today.14:48
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lotuspsychjeOsirus126: you want to remote access your kodi, thats it?14:49
Osirus126lotuspsychje, no i want to install kodi under ubuntu mate for raspberry pi 3 but when i install the default kodi package it seems not to work. but i had previously installed the kodi-rbp package and it is optimized for use with raspberry pi14:54
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: can this help you, i see the package there? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/955102814:57
Osirus126lotuspsychje, yes this might!!14:59
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: use at own risk ppa's right :p14:59
CynaOsirus126, you're problem is that you can't find kodi rbp in the packet list right ? Did you try adding the arch-linux repository to you apt sources list ?14:59
Osirus126Cyna, i was trying to find how i could add arch repos but was unsuccessful15:00
Osirus126lotuspsychje, how would i add that archive to my sources list?15:01
CynaWhats the problem : finding the report address or adding it to the sources list ?15:01
Osirus126lotuspsychje, the link you gave me is the closest ive been to success so far15:01
CynaRepo*15:01
Osirus126Cyna, i was having trouble finding the address.. i know how to add it to sources list once i have it, but i was under the assumption that it wouldnt work because arch uses pacman instead of apt-get15:03
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: hmm, seems like its for the pi2 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa15:04
Osirus126pi2 or pi3 it still should work15:04
Osirus126lotuspsychje, i can probably just download the .deb and install it that way correct??15:05
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: you could try, but again remember this isnt official way right15:05
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: we dont support external ppa's15:05
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: its your system, if you really need it, i would try15:06
Osirus126lotuspsychje, it seems that the ppa is already in my sources list but i still cant seem to find the package using apt-cache search15:11
Osirus126lotuspsychje, wierd15:12
lotuspsychjeOsirus126: did you sudo apt-get update?15:12
Osirus126yes15:14
CynaOsirus126, how did you find out it was already in the source list ?15:25
Osirus126Cyna, i opened my software and sources program and looked under the other software tab. and it is there15:26
Osirus126Cyna, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main15:26
Osirus126deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main15:26
Osirus126the file is in this archive https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/955102815:27
Osirus126kodi-rbp_16.0+upfm1-1+rpi2~xenial1.8_armhf.deb15:28
CynaCan you find any of the ppa packages using apt-cache ? Like astropi for example ? Did you see any error message related to this ppa while doing apt-get update ?15:30
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Guest55434when! April 14th Warning /!\ FinalFreeze, Warning /!\ ReleaseCandidate,16:31
Guest554346:33 PM Thursday, April 14, 2016 (GMT+2) Time in O.R. Tambo International Airport, O R Tambo Airport Rd, Johannesburg, South Africa16:34
Guest55434must be the night shift releasing16:34
PiciCanonical's main offices are in London16:35
Guest554345:35 PM Thursday, April 14, 2016 (GMT+1) Time in London, UK16:35
SCHAAP137hmm, network-manager-openvpn still cannot use the (valid OpenVPN option) tls-cipher...16:45
SCHAAP137was hoping someone else might have noticed (besides TJ-) and patched it upstream, but that still hasn't occurred yet16:46
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G__81hi i am running 16.04 beta with all updates installed and today i dont see the menubar for Gnome-terminal alone17:15
G__81For other apps it works fine, gnome-terminal alone does not show the menu bar either in window title or in the global menu bar17:15
G__81cd qu17:17
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voozeHi, I'm preparing to move to 16.04 quite soon (from 14.04) and I noticed that Qt4 apps don't work anymore (copyq and virtualbox) Is there something I can do, or do I just need to wait for the devs of copyq + virtualbox to fix it?17:22
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nath5hello, I tried to install gnome shell on 16.04  using the instructions found here http://askubuntu.com/questions/614657/install-gnome-desktop-ubuntu-15-04 when I logged in everything was really zoomed in and very unstable.  Are there newer instructions for 16.0420:18
ardhipoetrahowdy, is the release candidate out yet?21:17
crobertswhen do we get the fancy looking unity i think unity 821:21
k1l!unity8 | croberts21:22
ubottucroberts: Unity8 is the next Unity Desktop running on Mir. It is already used on the smartphones running ubuntu-touch (!touch) and can be tested on the Desktop with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC21:22
k1lyou can test it right now. its in use on ubuntu phones and tablets already. but its not the standard desktop yet21:22
crobertscool ty ill give it a try21:23
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qell__Hello! I just installed 16.04, and I'm working on a AMD-Radeon equipped laptop. I understand that the proprietary drivers are no longer supported, but I can't find the open ones! THe ubuntu drivers utility doesn't list drivers for the graphic card22:57
naccqell__: because it's shipped with kernel, right?22:59
naccqell__: lhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx22:59
naccerr ignore that first l :)23:00
qell__oh is it? ok but..23:00
qell__i've tried using the radeontop utility and it says "no gpu detected"23:00
naccqell__: well, via radeon & amdgpu aiui; which should show up in `lsmod`, i think?23:01
qell__honestly (I know this is not supposed to be a support channel for newbies but...) I don't know how to check if my GPU is being used and through which driver23:01
naccqell__: can you see if `lsmod` indicates either of those modules are loaded (radeon or amdgpu) ?23:02
qell__amdkfd and amd_iommu_v2 are listed23:02
qell__also radeon, right!23:03
naccqell__: yeah so the version of hw you have determines which driver gets loaded, aiui23:03
naccso radeon being loaded is fine23:03
qell__perfect. But is there an utility to check if it's working?23:04
naccqell__: i have no idea, sorry :)23:04
qell__thank you anyway!23:06

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