[00:02] Hello. I've got a weird problem. Can't seem to upgrade a 14.04 installation to 16.04. `do-release-upgrade -d` says No new release found. [00:04] ratrace: i think it's because changelogs.ubuntu.com is down (iiuc) [00:05] nacc: I see. Perfect timing. Thanks. [00:05] ratrace: catastrophic disk failure :/ folks are working on it, aiui === bildz_ is now known as bildz [00:10] Ouch. [00:29] If I install the 16.04 beta 2 and update/upgrade -- will that just roll me into the full release when it's finished? [00:29] Or do I have to do anything special to upgrade to the full version? [00:33] !final [00:33] If you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal. [00:34] ubottu: thank you [00:34] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [00:41] robots need love, too [00:53] !botsnack [00:53] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [00:53] traitor. [01:43] anyone else have issues with vim locking up? [02:24] how risky is a 16.04 update right now? [02:26] it should be pretty stable by now right? [02:50] I have had no real issues [02:50] two of which that I noticed were my fault [03:16] I have already upgraded system to 16.04, and now I have error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823368/ [03:27] 16.04 is amazing [05:12] Howdy [05:12] Will Xubuntu 16.04 have Gtk3 or will that have to wait until October? === Mike1_ is now known as Mike1 === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [06:03] and my Ubuntu Bengali translation now is at stake. === kraken is now known as Guest57608 [06:07] !details | pavlushka ? [06:07] pavlushka ?: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) === lift_ is now known as lift === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === siel_ is now known as siel === Guest57608 is now known as X_III [06:11] lotuspsychje: The Jatiya (National) Keyboard Layout support for Bengali Language has been removed in Xubuntu 16.04 Beta which was there in Xubuntu 16.04 Alpha. I dont know if it's same about Ubuntu. [06:12] pavlushka: file a bug before next weeks release perhaps [06:12] pavlushka: did you test this on daily iso also? [06:12] yes [06:14] pavlushka: i see bengali language in 16.04 daily? [06:15] pavlushka: india,baishaki,bornona,... [06:15] like to add, I was using this layout in Ubuntu from the very beginning, like 9.04-9.10 though i started with 8.04. [06:15] pavlushka: bengali(india) is the layout you need? [06:16] no Bengali(Bangladesh) [06:16] i dont see bangladesh [06:18] pavlushka: test again with a daily iso from the topic url [06:18] pavlushka: i see a whole list for bengali.. [06:20] okay I am sending you a link of screenshot, give me a minuts. [06:21] k [06:49] lotuspsychje: Oh I am using yesterdays iso, and the link is http://imgur.com/PmwwLPR [06:51] pavlushka: so - the same as was available in 15.10 > http://i.imgur.com/fV4VB6X.png [06:51] pavlushka: i have more sub-layouts for bengali.. [06:52] lotuspsychje: I don't - -on xubuntu [06:53] oh [06:53] right im on ubuntu-desktop here sorry [06:53] lotuspsychje: yea I assumed [06:53] 14.04 is the same here just for completeness sake [06:54] perhaps you guys should bug that [06:54] we want all languages available on all flavors right? [06:57] flocculant: a late yes for http://i.imgur.com/fV4VB6X.png [06:57] flocculant: I am in mess. [07:00] isnt there like a language pack you can download after xubuntu install? [07:02] yes I have. [07:05] lotuspsychje: but revealing a funny secrete, the probhat keyboard layout was actually was National Layout before but now its actually probhat layout, becaouse I was using that probhat layout for typing in xubuntu xenial alpha. [07:06] means probhat keyboard layout was not what it should be in actual. [07:06] now it is. [07:06] i really suggest a !bug pavlushka [07:07] and now the Bengali National Layout is gone, and yes I am filing the bug. [07:10] lotuspsychje: sorry, but under which package i will file the bug? [07:10] pavlushka: do you have ibus installed? [07:10] you won't by default [07:11] flocculant: no. [07:11] try installing that then [07:11] ubuntu has it [07:11] !info ibus | pavlushka tnx2 flocculant [07:11] pavlushka tnx2 flocculant: ibus (source: ibus): Intelligent Input Bus - core. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.11-1ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 212 kB, installed size 1360 kB [07:12] flocculant: but it was working without that even in alpha [07:12] pavlushka: maybe so [07:12] I know about idbus. [07:12] I know about ibus. [07:13] I am an ubuntu user still. [07:15] flocculant: but funny thing is the probhat keyboard layout was actually National before beta release and now its actually probhat layout. [07:15] Our National (Jatiya is gone.) [07:18] flocculant: just if you like to know, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_input_methods [07:19] ToeSnacks: what kind of graphics card chipset? [07:19] Nvidia GTX980Ti [07:20] ToeSnacks: you could try to get in with nomodeset perhaps [07:20] !nomodeset | ToeSnacks [07:20] ToeSnacks: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [07:21] ToeSnacks: then install an nvidia driver [07:21] Thanks I will give that a try [07:21] ToeSnacks: perhaps nvidia-352 [07:22] Any idea why this would be an issue for the final install if the USB stick boots without issue? [07:23] ToeSnacks: its not final release yet, things can still break [07:23] ToeSnacks: and even after the final, new bugs will occur [07:24] ToeSnacks: you can also try a latest daily .iso instead of beta2 as a test [07:24] Alright thanks [07:24] pavlushka: so your issue is really that probhat is now probhat and not whatever you say it was before? [07:24] lol, yes! [07:25] pavlushka: just report that I guess - not sure what package tbh - keyboard-configuration perhaps, that's what I would it against at lease [07:25] flocculant: copy. [07:25] lotuspsychje: I just hard reset the box and the screen is not black I just hangs on a purple blank screen pre grub [07:26] but - it must be a generic *buntu issue, not Xubuntu as we have the same probhat layout as ubuntu [07:26] ToeSnacks: can you F1 to see text boot errors? [07:26] Nothing happens, let me reset again. [07:28] And flocculant : these two bug returned, bug #1567516, bug #1556531 [07:28] bug 1567516 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "The default indicators set has a blank button." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1567516 [07:28] bug 1556531 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "Login screen needs a click to get alive, otherwise remains black." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556531 [07:28] as I have not switched to gdm from lightdm. [07:29] Got into grub this time and tried adding the nomodeset to the launch string and it's hanging at loading initial ramdisk [07:29] ouch [07:30] ToeSnacks: you could try entering recoverymode/terminal and install nvidia-352 perhaps [07:31] Loading into recovery let me in [07:31] I'll try the driver now [07:32] Thank you for your help [07:32] ToeSnacks: lets hope it gets fixxed [07:33] ToeSnacks: did you install with internet/updates/3rd party software enabled during setup? [07:35] I did once and it didn't work so I reinstalled without just to check [07:35] So currently no [07:36] ToeSnacks: its recommended to enable updates during setup [07:36] so ubuntu can find best driver [07:37] Yeah I always do that but it failed with those options enabled as well [07:37] So I was trying to see if there was a corrupt package coming from the newest branch [07:38] ToeSnacks: would also be good to test a todays daily iso [07:39] Also important info I failed to mention is I'm using lvm and full disk encryption [07:39] oh [07:39] ToeSnacks: dont know very much on lvm myself [07:40] !lvm [07:40] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [07:40] I feel the issue may be the decryption prompt [07:40] could be [07:40] Where I enter the drive password [07:41] Cause dropping to recovery then entering the password then resuming normal boot works [07:43] Running a full dist upgrade now to see if it helps [07:44] kk [07:46] g4143: always backup before upgrade ok [07:46] oO === Smedles_ is now known as Smedles === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === Elimin8r is now known as Elimin8er === jtaylor_ is now known as jtaylor [10:41] Hi guys. Has anyone experienced sleep issues with 16.04? It worked well on 15.10, but once I upgraded to 16.04 sleep stopped working. I mean, when I try to suspend the screen turns off but my laptop's power indicator remains one and the fans keep spinning. Has anyone else experienced a similar behavior? [10:51] Heyas all [10:53] hey BluesKaj! [10:54] Hi freaj [11:05] Hello everyone, anyone having problem with connecting to PPTP VPNs through network-manager. pppd crashing with error 11 since yesterday or maybe today updates (not sure). [11:07] pptp, hmm old and unstable [11:09] Hmm, yeah but still used a lot. Was working with no problems until now. === Nach0z_ is now known as Nach0z [11:20] iirc, pptp vpns have the same congestion issues that ssh tunnels do. tcp inside tcp is never good. [11:21] works fine untill things get busy. [11:37] Allright, I am glad I have started a discussion about PPTP reliability. :-) But let`s get back to the original question. Why is pppd crashing in Ubuntu 16.04 since maybe 1-2 days ago. [11:44] spidla: was it crashing before? Does it crash at start? after some time? Only when you download a lot? [11:45] petersaints: Hi, is it a laptop? [12:03] freaj: It is a laptop. It crashes when I click network manager and I choose to connect PPTP-based VPN. All other VPNs (IPsec, OpenVPN) are doing fine. No VPNs are started after laptop startup. [12:03] freaj: pppd never crashed before [12:04] freaj: Network manager show notification message that VPN has been stopped. In syslog I found, that pppd segfaulted [12:05] have you upgraded pppd recently? [12:05] In 16.04 this might be why it is crashing: a buggy update [12:06] Not sure if I updated exactly pppd, buggy update is highly possible. [12:07] I just found better description of segfault. It is saying something about error in nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so [12:07] So it is maybe network manager error. [12:07] .. which in the end crashes pppd. [12:08] It might be either the applet or the daemon [12:09] Can you check in your /var/log/apt/history.log if it has been upgraded recently? [12:09] Yeah that is what I am doing now :-) [12:09] okay [12:10] Found It. network-manager-pptp upgraded yesterday [12:10] Maybe I can fallback to previous version. [12:10] Hmm [12:10] It has upgraded from 1.0.8 to 1.1.93. Seems like a big jump. [12:11] I don't really know about ubuntu, is there a cached .deb version in /var/cache/? [12:11] Oh, there is! [12:11] spidla: try to look into /var/cache/apt/archives/ for the .deb file [12:12] And then "dpkg -i [your_file] [12:12] Good idea, however only newest version is present in the folder. [12:13] haha [12:14] I don't know how to find an older version in ubuntu as well.. maybe you can check in an outdated repo :P [12:15] I am trying to hack URL at launchpad :-) [12:15] update to 1.1.93-1ubuntu1 [12:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/1568336 [12:15] Launchpad bug 1568336 in ppp (Debian) "pppd crashed with SIGSEGV in plugin_init()" [Unknown,New] [12:18] Wow, I dist-upgraded few hour age. And you are right, there is an update available [12:19] It is wokring again. Unbeleviable patch speed :-) [12:20] \o/ [12:20] Okay, thanks to everyone [13:22] @freaj Yes, it's a laptop. === sgbirch_ is now known as sgbirch [13:50] Two questions for you guys: [13:52] 1. is the release candidate expected for anytime soon? say in three hours?; 2. assume that i install the release candidate, no bug encountered, everything goes smooth in the developing process etc. When I upgrade next week to the stable, do I get the same uname, lsb_release, and repositories as everyone else? [13:52] 2) yes [13:52] !final [13:52] If you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal. [13:53] thank you! [13:58] ubottu is nice [13:58] 15:58 ubottu ∷ Sorry, I don't know anything about is nice [13:58] :( [13:58] a cute bundle of wires [13:58] !botsnack [13:58] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [14:01] just another question (I've not burned my ISO yet). What do I read if I launch lsb_release on today's build? And are the repos sources already codenamed Xenial? [14:10] Hi, I'm preparing to move to 16.04 quite soon (from 14.04) and I noticed that Qt4 apps don't work anymore (copyq and virtualbox) Is there something I can do, or do I just need to wait for the devs of copyq + virtualbox to fix it? [14:42] freaj: So, as I said it's a laptop. Any tips on how to debug sleep issues? Where are those things logged in order to check what may be hanging the suspend process? [14:42] petersaints: dmesg or syslog should show usefull stuff [14:44] im in need of some help regarding installing a package called kodi-rbp on my ubuntu mate for raspberry pi 3 desktop [14:44] !info kodi-rbp [14:44] Package kodi-rbp does not exist in xenial [14:44] it's not in 16.04 repos [14:44] you must have used a different repo [14:45] thats what i am having trouble understanding because i had installed it just the other day using apt-get install [14:45] probably used a different repo [14:45] Osirus126: apt-cache search kodi shows a whole list...any packagename you seeking there? [14:45] no [14:45] lotuspsychje, no the package isnt there [14:46] Osirus126: whats it for exactly? [14:46] Which package are you looking for ? [14:46] lotuspsychje, a google search shows it is in the arch arm repos but i dont know how i can install that under ubuntu mate [14:46] Cyna, it is called "kodi-rbp" [14:46] Osirus126: well this is ubuntu, not arch right [14:47] yes i understand that [14:47] but im trying to figure out a way to have it installed under ubuntu mate [14:47] seeing as i have had it installed in the past [14:47] !arm | Osirus126 perhaps they might know? [14:47] Osirus126 perhaps they might know?: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel. [14:48] ok lotuspsychje. I'll se what I can find when I boot into Ubuntu later today. === ballock_ is now known as ballock [14:49] Osirus126: you want to remote access your kodi, thats it? [14:54] lotuspsychje, no i want to install kodi under ubuntu mate for raspberry pi 3 but when i install the default kodi package it seems not to work. but i had previously installed the kodi-rbp package and it is optimized for use with raspberry pi [14:57] Osirus126: can this help you, i see the package there? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/9551028 [14:59] lotuspsychje, yes this might!! [14:59] Osirus126: use at own risk ppa's right :p [14:59] Osirus126, you're problem is that you can't find kodi rbp in the packet list right ? Did you try adding the arch-linux repository to you apt sources list ? [15:00] Cyna, i was trying to find how i could add arch repos but was unsuccessful [15:01] lotuspsychje, how would i add that archive to my sources list? [15:01] Whats the problem : finding the report address or adding it to the sources list ? [15:01] lotuspsychje, the link you gave me is the closest ive been to success so far [15:01] Repo* [15:03] Cyna, i was having trouble finding the address.. i know how to add it to sources list once i have it, but i was under the assumption that it wouldnt work because arch uses pacman instead of apt-get [15:04] Osirus126: hmm, seems like its for the pi2 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [15:04] pi2 or pi3 it still should work [15:05] lotuspsychje, i can probably just download the .deb and install it that way correct?? [15:05] Osirus126: you could try, but again remember this isnt official way right [15:05] Osirus126: we dont support external ppa's [15:06] Osirus126: its your system, if you really need it, i would try [15:11] lotuspsychje, it seems that the ppa is already in my sources list but i still cant seem to find the package using apt-cache search [15:12] lotuspsychje, wierd [15:12] Osirus126: did you sudo apt-get update? [15:14] yes [15:25] Osirus126, how did you find out it was already in the source list ? [15:26] Cyna, i opened my software and sources program and looked under the other software tab. and it is there [15:26] Cyna, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main [15:26] deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/ppa/ubuntu xenial main [15:27] the file is in this archive https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pi-flavour-makers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/9551028 [15:28] kodi-rbp_16.0+upfm1-1+rpi2~xenial1.8_armhf.deb [15:30] Can you find any of the ppa packages using apt-cache ? Like astropi for example ? Did you see any error message related to this ppa while doing apt-get update ? === dougn_ is now known as dougn === ubuntu is now known as Guest55434 [16:31] when! April 14th Warning /!\ FinalFreeze, Warning /!\ ReleaseCandidate, [16:34] 6:33 PM Thursday, April 14, 2016 (GMT+2) Time in O.R. Tambo International Airport, O R Tambo Airport Rd, Johannesburg, South Africa [16:34] must be the night shift releasing [16:35] Canonical's main offices are in London [16:35] 5:35 PM Thursday, April 14, 2016 (GMT+1) Time in London, UK [16:45] hmm, network-manager-openvpn still cannot use the (valid OpenVPN option) tls-cipher... [16:46] was hoping someone else might have noticed (besides TJ-) and patched it upstream, but that still hasn't occurred yet === pepee- is now known as pepee [17:15] hi i am running 16.04 beta with all updates installed and today i dont see the menubar for Gnome-terminal alone [17:15] For other apps it works fine, gnome-terminal alone does not show the menu bar either in window title or in the global menu bar [17:17] cd qu === sgbirch_ is now known as sgbirch [17:22] Hi, I'm preparing to move to 16.04 quite soon (from 14.04) and I noticed that Qt4 apps don't work anymore (copyq and virtualbox) Is there something I can do, or do I just need to wait for the devs of copyq + virtualbox to fix it? === JanC_ is now known as JanC === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === TheRedQueen is now known as Drone` [20:18] hello, I tried to install gnome shell on 16.04 using the instructions found here http://askubuntu.com/questions/614657/install-gnome-desktop-ubuntu-15-04 when I logged in everything was really zoomed in and very unstable. Are there newer instructions for 16.04 [21:17] howdy, is the release candidate out yet? [21:21] when do we get the fancy looking unity i think unity 8 [21:22] !unity8 | croberts [21:22] croberts: Unity8 is the next Unity Desktop running on Mir. It is already used on the smartphones running ubuntu-touch (!touch) and can be tested on the Desktop with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC [21:22] you can test it right now. its in use on ubuntu phones and tablets already. but its not the standard desktop yet [21:23] cool ty ill give it a try === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat [22:57] Hello! I just installed 16.04, and I'm working on a AMD-Radeon equipped laptop. I understand that the proprietary drivers are no longer supported, but I can't find the open ones! THe ubuntu drivers utility doesn't list drivers for the graphic card [22:59] qell__: because it's shipped with kernel, right? [22:59] qell__: lhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx [23:00] err ignore that first l :) [23:00] oh is it? ok but.. [23:00] i've tried using the radeontop utility and it says "no gpu detected" [23:01] qell__: well, via radeon & amdgpu aiui; which should show up in `lsmod`, i think? [23:01] honestly (I know this is not supposed to be a support channel for newbies but...) I don't know how to check if my GPU is being used and through which driver [23:02] qell__: can you see if `lsmod` indicates either of those modules are loaded (radeon or amdgpu) ? [23:02] amdkfd and amd_iommu_v2 are listed [23:03] also radeon, right! [23:03] qell__: yeah so the version of hw you have determines which driver gets loaded, aiui [23:03] so radeon being loaded is fine [23:04] perfect. But is there an utility to check if it's working? [23:04] qell__: i have no idea, sorry :) [23:06] thank you anyway!