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peat-psuwitShould NetworkManager consider rmnet* device as connected?02:52
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afdave14good stuff03:19
* afdave14 i wonder03:19
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paz_Hi. Attempting to build and run the Telegram app on my Ubuntu VM (version 15.10). Can't create a Click Target. I'm getting errors, possibly related to package dependancies. Anyone else seen this?09:45
paz_Anyone having issues creating click chroot  for armhf 15.04 on a machine running  Ubuntu 15.10?10:32
Acou_Basspaz_: your host machine, is it ARM too? you usually need the same architecture for a chroot10:45
paz_Acou_Bass: yes it's ARM10:47
paz_I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 on a VM on my macbook10:47
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jgdxpitti, does dbusmock do signals? I know it can emit them, but signals does not appear in Introspection of a mock bus.12:35
jgdxalso seem that if you define signals using @dbus.service.signal in a template, it's ignored? Not sure if I'm reading that right.12:37
pittijgdx: yes, you can emit them, but as you don't have to declare them there's currently no way to put them into introspection indeed12:38
pittijgdx: ah, I haven't used that, just calling .EmitSignal() on the mock12:38
jgdxpitti, right.. I'm now trying to connect a qobject to a qdbusinterface provided by dbusmock, but it does not find signals.12:39
jgdxI wonder if I can just punch the introspection method of the dbus Object?12:40
jgdxas a dirty hack for testing12:40
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jonubulinI have a question related to the camera app on the meizu mx4: Why is the option to take photos in the 16:9 format not available anymore?12:58
davmor2jonubulin: because 16:9 wasn't an accurate display size iirc but Kaleo can possibly confirm that for you13:02
jonubulinAh OK but the 5:3 format uses less pixels than the 16:9 format, which seems strange.13:08
jonubulinThe old 16:9 format had nearly the same width pixels than the 4:3 format. The new 5:3 format has less pixels because the width pixels change to, which seems unnecessary.13:16
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yakaarHello everyone, is there a way to receive my mms on my BQ aquaris E4.5 ??13:38
yakaarI can already send mms, but not receive...13:39
ogra_you should13:39
ogra_(definitely a bug if you can not)13:39
yakaarI tried, but it doesn't work for the instant... is there a config to enter, I'm on Bouygues télécom sim card13:41
aquariusbeuno_, can I get real-time notification of app downloads from the store API? (I'd ask jamestait but he's not around.) Obviously I can poll it once a minute and compare the download count to the last download count, but it'd be nice not to have to13:43
beuno_aquarius, hi!13:43
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aquariusalso, hi :)13:43
beunoaquarius, you mean, push notifications?13:43
aquariusI was more thinking of a desktop app which watches for downloads and plays a little sound every time someone downloads one of my apps13:44
beunoaquarius, we don't have anything that fancy yet, no  :)13:44
beunowe'll want to expose some of that via APIs soon13:45
beunowe now have macaroons to authenticate13:45
beunothat'll open things up a bit so we're not shoving a blank-check token around for these types of things13:45
yakaarIn fact, it work with datas activate :-)13:50
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aquariusbeuno, I can wait and ask jamestait if you don't know enough about the store APIs14:13
mcphailpmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1449790 - you've marked this as "fix released" but there appear to be ongoing issues as per my comment #26. Should that be revised?14:47
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1449790 in qtubuntu-media (Ubuntu RTM) "Fails to play a file with a # (hash symbol) in the path" [High,Fix released]14:47
mardydobey: hi! When you have some time, this silo is looking forward to an audience ;-) https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/104914:50
dobeymardy: hey, yeah, it's on my list; been stuck on some very weird crashing in click-scope for a feature we wre trying to land for ota10 at the moment. is there an ota11 schedule yet, do you know?14:53
mardydobey: nope, I don't know14:54
mardydobey: is this about the QNetworkAccessManager? Did you find what was happening at the end?14:54
mardydobey: but I think we should aim at ota-11 for this silo. dbarth_, opinions? ^14:55
dobeymardy: no, i don't think this crash is about QNAM; it's about "memory management in c++ is hard, especially in scopes, and especially in scopes that require Qt event loop for APIs it needs to use"14:57
mardydobey: oh, I see... wonder what APIs you are talking about ;-)14:58
dobeymardy: u1 account, download manager, ant qtnetwork are the APIs we use, which require an event loop (maybe more, but i think those are the only 3)14:59
mardydobey: and OA too (maybe not in your scope)15:00
dobeymardy: the OA api in scopes is done in the shell, not the scope itself. the bits in the scope we use are via libubuntuoneauth, which uses the signon/accounts libs; and which itself has signals and such15:02
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dbarth_mardy, dobey: +1 for an ota-11 target here; what is missing at this stage to land? review or code changes?15:15
dobeyreview+testing+approval15:16
dobeyby me15:16
mardydbarth_: and given our previous conversations with dobey I'm quite sure that we will need several iterations (or discussions to convince him that this is good stuff ;-) ), so the earlier we start, the better :-)15:18
peat-psuwitShould NetworkManager consider rmnet0 interface as connected?15:26
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dobeypeat-psuwit: i think NM itself doesn't manage the cellular connection15:50
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pmcgowanmcphail, is that a specific case thats not fixed? if so we can open a new bug15:54
mcphailpmcgowan: yes - I think that is an edge case the current fix doesn't fix :)15:55
pmcgowanmcphail, can you enter a new one then?15:56
mcphailpmcgowan: I can, but I don't have a working ubuntu device to outline the steps accurately just now. Can I create a shell and just link to that comment?15:56
peat-psuwitdobey: except over ofono, right? Then this is a bug?15:56
pmcgowanmcphail, sure15:57
mcphailpmcgowan: will do, then. Ta!15:57
peat-psuwitdobey: On my device, it's shown as connected every time I connect to mobile data, and even after I disconnect15:59
awe_peat-psuwit, rmnet0 should be unmanaged by NM16:02
dobeypeat-psuwit: what do you mean by "as connected" exactly?16:02
awe_and dobey, yes NM is responsible for the mobile connection.  It initiates the activation of a 3g connection via ofono16:02
awe_so ofono does much of the heavy lifting16:03
awe_but NM is in charge16:03
awe_much like the relationship between NM and wpa_supplicant for WiFi16:03
awe_peat-psuwit, there is code in NM that's supposed to ignore rmnet devices16:03
awe_on mako, these devices are owned by rild16:04
awe_and therefore NM only uses them to set routes if told to by ofono16:04
awe_unfortunately, I just caught this conversation as I'm about walk out the door16:04
awe_so... would be willing to discuss further later today16:05
awe_or tomorrow16:05
peat-psuwitawe_: probably tomorrow. It's almost midnight here.16:06
awe_ok16:06
awe_ttyl then16:06
mcphailpmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1570469 is the best I can do until I get a working device again. Hope it is enough top get started.16:34
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1570469 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "Despite fixes in OTA10, there is still an edge case where a file with a '#' symbol in the path will not play correctly" [Undecided,New]16:34
pmcgowanmcphail, thanks16:35
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E524good evening everyone (in case you are in a nearby timezone).19:24
E524 i installed OTA 10.1 on my nexus4 (dualboot) and connected and external bluetooth keyboard. worked like a charm. great too see how everything improves!19:24
E524but i have a problem: eventough i configurated the right keyboard layout (in my case "Deutsch (Scheiz)") i cannont use some important letters wirth "alt gr" the @ would be on "alt gr + 2" or the | is "alt gr + 1". on the shell it writes out (args: 2) for @ or (args: 1) (for |). Does anyone know this prblem?19:24
dobeyE524: sounds like the key you are expecting to be "alt gr" is just "alt"19:30
E524hey dobey. i tried it. alt has the same effect unfortunately19:36
E524i tried also all the other swiss keyboard layouts, so it seems to be more general, than just the exact layout i have chosen19:37
E524hm... if i change the keyboard layout to arabic, it's still German (Swiss).19:47
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E524ok i realized, that if i have mounted / with rw, the keyboardlayout does not change. i can now write arabic :)20:02
E524(after mounting r again)20:03
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dobeyE524: you really shouldn't mount / as rw20:08
E524dobey: ok, but how can i install things like vim or htop or stuff like that? is there a good way, or realy not recommended at all?20:09
dobeyE524: https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#62331120:10
E524dobey: thanks a lot! will have a close look and save it.20:11
Acou_Bassdobey: just a curiosity, but using that chroot method, how would one run GUI apps under xmir?21:48
Acou_Bass(if possible)?21:48
TegenarisHi, just wanted to quick check if there's any non-hack possibility to save a file using Ubuntu HTML5 app? Need to store some info preferrably in the XML format.21:51
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