[02:52] Should NetworkManager consider rmnet* device as connected? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:19] good stuff [03:19] * afdave14 i wonder === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje === LjL^ is now known as LjL === attente_ is now known as attente === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === Elimin8r is now known as Elimin8er [09:45] Hi. Attempting to build and run the Telegram app on my Ubuntu VM (version 15.10). Can't create a Click Target. I'm getting errors, possibly related to package dependancies. Anyone else seen this? [10:32] Anyone having issues creating click chroot for armhf 15.04 on a machine running Ubuntu 15.10? [10:45] paz_: your host machine, is it ARM too? you usually need the same architecture for a chroot [10:47] Acou_Bass: yes it's ARM [10:47] I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 on a VM on my macbook === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === chrisc_ is now known as chrisc === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:35] pitti, does dbusmock do signals? I know it can emit them, but signals does not appear in Introspection of a mock bus. [12:37] also seem that if you define signals using @dbus.service.signal in a template, it's ignored? Not sure if I'm reading that right. [12:38] jgdx: yes, you can emit them, but as you don't have to declare them there's currently no way to put them into introspection indeed [12:38] jgdx: ah, I haven't used that, just calling .EmitSignal() on the mock [12:39] pitti, right.. I'm now trying to connect a qobject to a qdbusinterface provided by dbusmock, but it does not find signals. [12:40] I wonder if I can just punch the introspection method of the dbus Object? [12:40] as a dirty hack for testing === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:58] I have a question related to the camera app on the meizu mx4: Why is the option to take photos in the 16:9 format not available anymore? [13:02] jonubulin: because 16:9 wasn't an accurate display size iirc but Kaleo can possibly confirm that for you [13:08] Ah OK but the 5:3 format uses less pixels than the 16:9 format, which seems strange. [13:16] The old 16:9 format had nearly the same width pixels than the 4:3 format. The new 5:3 format has less pixels because the width pixels change to, which seems unnecessary. === mariogrip_ is now known as mariogrip === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:38] Hello everyone, is there a way to receive my mms on my BQ aquaris E4.5 ?? [13:39] I can already send mms, but not receive... [13:39] you should [13:39] (definitely a bug if you can not) [13:41] I tried, but it doesn't work for the instant... is there a config to enter, I'm on Bouygues télécom sim card [13:43] beuno_, can I get real-time notification of app downloads from the store API? (I'd ask jamestait but he's not around.) Obviously I can poll it once a minute and compare the download count to the last download count, but it'd be nice not to have to [13:43] aquarius, hi! === beuno_ is now known as beuno [13:43] also, hi :) [13:43] aquarius, you mean, push notifications? [13:44] I was more thinking of a desktop app which watches for downloads and plays a little sound every time someone downloads one of my apps [13:44] aquarius, we don't have anything that fancy yet, no :) [13:45] we'll want to expose some of that via APIs soon [13:45] we now have macaroons to authenticate [13:45] that'll open things up a bit so we're not shoving a blank-check token around for these types of things [13:50] In fact, it work with datas activate :-) === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:13] beuno, I can wait and ask jamestait if you don't know enough about the store APIs [14:47] pmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1449790 - you've marked this as "fix released" but there appear to be ongoing issues as per my comment #26. Should that be revised? [14:47] Launchpad bug 1449790 in qtubuntu-media (Ubuntu RTM) "Fails to play a file with a # (hash symbol) in the path" [High,Fix released] [14:50] dobey: hi! When you have some time, this silo is looking forward to an audience ;-) https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1049 [14:53] mardy: hey, yeah, it's on my list; been stuck on some very weird crashing in click-scope for a feature we wre trying to land for ota10 at the moment. is there an ota11 schedule yet, do you know? [14:54] dobey: nope, I don't know [14:54] dobey: is this about the QNetworkAccessManager? Did you find what was happening at the end? [14:55] dobey: but I think we should aim at ota-11 for this silo. dbarth_, opinions? ^ [14:57] mardy: no, i don't think this crash is about QNAM; it's about "memory management in c++ is hard, especially in scopes, and especially in scopes that require Qt event loop for APIs it needs to use" [14:58] dobey: oh, I see... wonder what APIs you are talking about ;-) [14:59] mardy: u1 account, download manager, ant qtnetwork are the APIs we use, which require an event loop (maybe more, but i think those are the only 3) [15:00] dobey: and OA too (maybe not in your scope) [15:02] mardy: the OA api in scopes is done in the shell, not the scope itself. the bits in the scope we use are via libubuntuoneauth, which uses the signon/accounts libs; and which itself has signals and such === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [15:15] mardy, dobey: +1 for an ota-11 target here; what is missing at this stage to land? review or code changes? [15:16] review+testing+approval [15:16] by me [15:18] dbarth_: and given our previous conversations with dobey I'm quite sure that we will need several iterations (or discussions to convince him that this is good stuff ;-) ), so the earlier we start, the better :-) [15:26] Should NetworkManager consider rmnet0 interface as connected? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:50] peat-psuwit: i think NM itself doesn't manage the cellular connection === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [15:54] mcphail, is that a specific case thats not fixed? if so we can open a new bug [15:55] pmcgowan: yes - I think that is an edge case the current fix doesn't fix :) [15:56] mcphail, can you enter a new one then? [15:56] pmcgowan: I can, but I don't have a working ubuntu device to outline the steps accurately just now. Can I create a shell and just link to that comment? [15:56] dobey: except over ofono, right? Then this is a bug? [15:57] mcphail, sure [15:57] pmcgowan: will do, then. Ta! [15:59] dobey: On my device, it's shown as connected every time I connect to mobile data, and even after I disconnect [16:02] peat-psuwit, rmnet0 should be unmanaged by NM [16:02] peat-psuwit: what do you mean by "as connected" exactly? [16:02] and dobey, yes NM is responsible for the mobile connection. It initiates the activation of a 3g connection via ofono [16:03] so ofono does much of the heavy lifting [16:03] but NM is in charge [16:03] much like the relationship between NM and wpa_supplicant for WiFi [16:03] peat-psuwit, there is code in NM that's supposed to ignore rmnet devices [16:04] on mako, these devices are owned by rild [16:04] and therefore NM only uses them to set routes if told to by ofono [16:04] unfortunately, I just caught this conversation as I'm about walk out the door [16:05] so... would be willing to discuss further later today [16:05] or tomorrow [16:06] awe_: probably tomorrow. It's almost midnight here. [16:06] ok [16:06] ttyl then [16:34] pmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1570469 is the best I can do until I get a working device again. Hope it is enough top get started. [16:34] Launchpad bug 1570469 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "Despite fixes in OTA10, there is still an edge case where a file with a '#' symbol in the path will not play correctly" [Undecided,New] [16:35] mcphail, thanks === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader === barry` is now known as barry === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:24] good evening everyone (in case you are in a nearby timezone). [19:24] i installed OTA 10.1 on my nexus4 (dualboot) and connected and external bluetooth keyboard. worked like a charm. great too see how everything improves! [19:24] but i have a problem: eventough i configurated the right keyboard layout (in my case "Deutsch (Scheiz)") i cannont use some important letters wirth "alt gr" the @ would be on "alt gr + 2" or the | is "alt gr + 1". on the shell it writes out (args: 2) for @ or (args: 1) (for |). Does anyone know this prblem? [19:30] E524: sounds like the key you are expecting to be "alt gr" is just "alt" [19:36] hey dobey. i tried it. alt has the same effect unfortunately [19:37] i tried also all the other swiss keyboard layouts, so it seems to be more general, than just the exact layout i have chosen [19:47] hm... if i change the keyboard layout to arabic, it's still German (Swiss). === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [20:02] ok i realized, that if i have mounted / with rw, the keyboardlayout does not change. i can now write arabic :) [20:03] (after mounting r again) === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ [20:08] E524: you really shouldn't mount / as rw [20:09] dobey: ok, but how can i install things like vim or htop or stuff like that? is there a good way, or realy not recommended at all? [20:10] E524: https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#623311 [20:11] dobey: thanks a lot! will have a close look and save it. [21:48] dobey: just a curiosity, but using that chroot method, how would one run GUI apps under xmir? [21:48] (if possible)? [21:51] Hi, just wanted to quick check if there's any non-hack possibility to save a file using Ubuntu HTML5 app? Need to store some info preferrably in the XML format. === Bray90820_ is now known as bray90820 === salem_ is now known as _salem