[00:01] Hi I'm new to linux:ubuntu and I would like to learn more about Ubuntu. Any help would be greatly appreciated. [00:01] !manual | Keton [00:01] Keton: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [00:01] Thank you === bazhang__ is now known as bazhang [00:16] How to remove Ubuntu with a computer dual booting with WIndows 10, oh just seen there's a aritfcle on something, hmm but that person was earlier === xanadu is now known as Guest68583 === ken_ is now known as Guest13872 [00:27] if there a problem or a better way than adding a sudoers rule for /sbin/mount to allow non-admin users to mount cifs shares from another machine? (headless server install) [00:30] House_: i can think of many ways i could get root access that way [00:31] so something like `%mounters ALL=/sbin/mount` is bad? isn't this what sudo is designed to do? [00:32] House_: yeah but mount is a powerful command [00:33] id prefer not need sudo, just for the fact of introducing it as a command and concept to non-admin users [00:34] i've got SSSD+AD integration going, so i thought there might be another way with sssd/pam or something that bestows mount permission for AD users to mount their other network resources in a neat way [00:35] i've got "ssh ad-user@linuxserver" working, and the user logs in to a /home//username folder, but i'd like to have sso-type login to a couple of NAS volumes [00:35] House_, AD isn't a way to control what commands are being run, only ownership and permissions. ..... [00:36] up to now i've just been scp-ing and such, but i've been playing with AD and wanted to let others start using this machine for a couple of things [00:36] just put the NFS into the right group and AD the users for that group [00:37] just allowing mount with sudo is a very bad idea. be extremely specific if you are using mount, like only that exact mount point (if you really have to go down that path) [00:37] and bad to have user logs go to home folder, make a centralized rsyslog server instead so they cant alter or remove them or something bad [00:37] hypercube32: i can put AD groups into sudoers. im looking to mount external AD controlled shares on a NAS to the user accounts on this linux machine. i was expecting that there might be a sssd or pam way of allowing mounting, without bringing sudo into it [00:40] hypercube32: not needed for logs, etc. fine to have a local home folder on the server, but want to give users a way of mounting their own shares elsewhere (not home folders) into this linux machine so they can transfer files between them. no gui, no need to teach them scp, etc, just "mount //nas/myshare /home/ad/user/mymount/" without needing sudo [00:41] anyone here versed in lvm [00:41] having a bit of an issue [00:42] House_, are you talking something like an NFS mounted home directory? (like how windows has remote desktop?) [00:42] (some companies ive worked at actually do just that.) [00:42] oh ok [00:42] House_, sounds more like you're re-inventing an FTP ;) [00:43] hi, what is the most current download for java? [00:43] i added a new drive to my lvm, but its not the right size. [00:43] and im trying to remove it [00:43] anyone able to help me [00:43] i think it would be harder for them to figure out all the mounting and junk rather than just keeping one nfs mount for them or ftp account for them [00:44] hypercube32: :) just a couple of personal/group share folders that users access from their desktops, and occasionally need to jump onto this server to run some batch conversions or put files somewhere, and having some smb mounts that they can attach of their own volition is what i'm looking for [00:44] j5n3wt0n, whatever is actually the JDK/JRE on oracle's site probably (if you're going for oracle.) otherwise openjdk you'd have to either deal with your distro or go look beyond that [00:44] House_, might be much easier if you have just one NFS mount on all boxes (as nfs client) and then each give them a folder that has their name only they have perms to.. sort of the way ftp works. [00:45] aka like how windows does shared folder [00:45] j5n3wt0n: what ubuntu version? [00:45] k1l_: 14.04 [00:45] j5n3wt0n: jdk or jre? [00:45] House_, Any reason you couldn't have a /home/$user/share directory that gets mounted to /nas/user via login script ? [00:46] k1l_: not sure how to find out [00:46] j5n3wt0n: what do you need java for? [00:46] hi Hydr0p0nX: ok for /nas/$username but sometimes there's /nas/$projectname and they come and go [00:47] k1l_: to log into work and i think for ynab [00:47] j5n3wt0n: so browser plugin? [00:47] yup [00:47] k1l_: yup [00:49] any help with this [00:49] http://pastebin.com/MVmruk2w [00:49] http://pastebin.com/dNsysntv [00:49] /dev/sdd1 is showing as 2.00 TiB but it's a 5TB drive [00:50] df -h /dev/sdd1 shows it as 2.0G which just makes no sense to me [00:50] j5n3wt0n: install "icedtea-plugin" [00:51] odd, its shoiwing the 5tb as sdb now. :( [00:51] k1l_: thank you [00:52] House_: any reason you can't link project directories to /nas/user as needed? It's more of an administrative headache for the windows admins but will make auditors happy [00:53] ubuntu-mate ,how to set second monitor for first? [00:55] Hydr0p0nX no control over that. its from a nas appliance, so not sure it can be done (( i think you're suggesting soft-linking the project into the users personal spaces on the nas, and just mounting the userfolders to the linux server. correct me if im wrong)) [00:57] House_, yes that's what I'm suggesting, it's how we handle product releases on our Secure ftp appliance, what kind of nas is this ? === brad[]` is now known as brad[] [00:58] dell FS [00:58] can someone look at http://pastebin.com/kjMnGunu and tell me whats wrong. i went to install vmware but it gave me an error and said to read that log. cant figure it out === matthewbaggett_ is now known as matthewbaggett [01:00] tonyt: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"? [01:02] im wondering if ppl cant see what i type [01:02] or if im just being ignored [01:02] :( [01:02] boa: or maybe no one is active who knows about lvm stuff [01:02] i guess [01:06] House_: it's possible to some extent, assuming Global NameSpace is setup [01:08] House_: even better, assuming you're using FluidFS 5+ , symlinking is covered in the online adminstration guide - http://www.dell.com/support/manuals/us/en/19/dell-compellent-fs8600/FluidFS-V5.0-Admin-Guide/Using-Symbolic-Links?guid=GUID-56A1C936-7AC6-45FF-B786-59EF98F246FE&lang=en-us [01:09] hi there, [01:10] heya cool_boy [01:10] I have installed a service inside /etc/init.d , I start service like sudo service my-server start, it shows me Starting my-server: my-server, but if I try to stop it shows [01:10] Stopping my-server: start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 20187: No such process [01:10] where can I get logs, why this service was killed? [01:10] what service ? [01:12] Hi again. Can a swap partition be set up as a logical partition within an extended partition? [01:12] rhorse_: Yes . [01:13] Thank you, Bashing-om === The_Doctor is now known as Adran [01:14] Hydr0p0nX: its this http://www.theopensourcerer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/odoo-server [01:15] I have copied it from same link [01:15] rhorse_: :) [01:17] thanks Hydr0p0nX [01:19] cool_boy: 1. verify the user "odoo" exists, then check dmesg for errors [01:19] oh, and check /var/log/ for any logs related to the services [01:20] Hydr0p0nX: I am on bitnami aws, so I changed 'odoo' to 'bitnami' user bitnami exists [01:20] k1l im on linux mint. decided to give vbox a shot instead [01:20] I do not find any log file under /var/log for this specific service [01:20] tonyt: yeah, please ask the mint channels for support, that are made autojoinin your irc client. [01:21] tonyt: mint handles kernels and kernel headers differently than ubuntu. so we cant help on that === Trystam is now known as Tristam [01:29] k1l, ok. i asked mints help chan/server. they told me i should go on freenode and ask but decided it was easier to jsut go with vbox === xar-- is now known as xar- [01:35] I am trying to do-release upgrade to ubuntu Wiley but it says that there are no new upgrdes available [01:35] from what version [01:35] 14.04. [01:35] John[Lisbeth]: changelogs.ubuntu.com server had a crash and so the updater cant calculate the updates right now. [01:36] lol go figure [01:36] if you wait a bit over a week you can upgrade straight to 16.04 [01:36] Yes thanks [01:36] saves going through 14.10 and 15.04 EOL upgrades [01:38] My mother's machine is running Ubuntu 12.04 and I want to upgrade the distro. But for some reason, while installing 12.04 works fine, the boot disks for 14.04, 15.04 and 15.10 will not boot. All versions are 64 bit. Why would 12.04 install fine while the newer ones will not? [01:39] Techspectre: Graphic's card ??? maybe . === ljhade25 is now known as ljhade24 [01:40] Bashing-om, it gives me a message saying something about trace. [01:40] Ending trace or something === Guest75698 is now known as someone [01:45] do i need to turn my networking off and back on after starting gufw? [01:46] and does gufw need to be run as root [01:47] I'm having an issue with netflix and chromium [01:47] I'm googling it now, but does anybody know anything about why it won't load now? [01:47] metroins, use firefox [01:48] r00st3r3: know of a chromecast extension for firefox? [01:50] Hello, not to sure about the etiquette of asking questions here, is anyone knowledgeable on luks encrypted drives? I'm having difficulty getting into mine after a botched calibre library making attempt. [01:50] I just installed ubuntu 15.10 on my laptop. I did ALL the updates abut when I do a "do-release-upgrade" or "do-release-upgrade" it says there are no upgrades avalible as of 16.04 does not even exist. [01:50] metroins: I had a similar problem [01:50] ~but [01:50] it said that I had to use Chrome when I was using Chromium [01:51] KD8NXH: because it doesn't [01:51] Chrome worked [01:51] ksft: Thanks. I'm installing Chrome now, we'll see how it goes. [01:51] metroins, for android yes but not for Linux... sorry. Did Netflix ever work in Chromium? [01:51] r00st3r3: for me it didn't [01:51] KD8NXH: changelogs.ubuntu.com server had a crash and so the updater cant calculate the updates right now. [01:51] I think I was using Chrome a few months ago and switched to Chromium and haven't tried netflix since on this pc [01:52] I like Chromium but Google Chrome does seem to work better with apps. [01:55] I think I remember why I switched to Chromium; my google cast stopped working and wouldn't install when I updated Chrome [01:56] It's not showing as an extension and when I try to install it only recognizes my phones, not this ubuntu box [01:56] nevermind, fixed it [02:01] KD8NXH: server should be fixed now. [02:01] KD8NXH: if you run "sudo do-release-upgrade" with the -d for developer switch it should offer an upgrade now === gustavo is now known as Guest50080 [02:08] k1l_: OK === imsurit_ is now known as imsurit [02:18] k1l_: how risky is doing the -d option? [02:19] KD8NXH: well, you wanted to upgrade to the beta 16.04. that will be released on 21st april. until that its in the developer mode. [02:20] ok [02:21] so 15.10 is the latest release for end users right now? [02:21] yes [02:21] oh ok [02:21] i thought that 16.04 was already out [02:21] It probably wont hurt me [02:22] hopefully [02:27] I guess reading the channel topic every once and a while would be a good idea [02:27] haha [02:27] <[Saint]> Anyone want to play a game? [02:27] <[Saint]> The game is called: "Tell me why on Earth I can't get my encrypted home to decrypt on authenticated ssh login?" [02:27] <[Saint]> It's been driving me batty. [02:27] oh gosh [02:28] so you are locked out of your stuff [Saint]? [02:28] <[Saint]> Having to do decrypt manually isn't exactly problematic, but, I can't figure out why I have to do this/automate doing this, and why it doesn't Just Work automagically on a server install. [02:29] oh [02:29] <[Saint]> KD8NXH: Oh, no, not at all. It just adds an annoying secondary action to logins occasionally. [02:31] <[Saint]> Only seems to be an issue with the server install. I guess the gnome-keyring chain handles it in *buntu proper. [02:34] <[Saint]> hmmmm, so - I think I can automate this in a sane and non-annoying way. [02:38] <[Saint]> dropping a bodgy test script that auto-runs ecryptfs-mount-private if required in the unencrypted ~ seems to work as expected. [02:39] Hello [02:39] 'lo === GodFoddar is now known as GodFather [02:42] hello. I've having a strange issue. Suddenly my system/UI lags when putting peak workloads on the CPU. The program I'm running also runs slower than before. Any idea what might cause this change? The program is the same. [02:46] adrian_1908: have you considered that it might be due to you putting peak workloads on the cpu? [02:47] pharpend: No, that didn't cause any issues before. It's the same program I've been running in the past weeks, no new code. [02:48] I see nothing suspicious in the taskmanager either. [02:48] I have tried many calendars (thunderbird, gnome-calendar, evolution, korganizer). Is there a calendar that's fully keyboard and screen reader accessible? [02:49] abracadabrababy: I've been meaning to write one [02:49] abracadabrababy: I've had the same problem === Vampire0_ is now known as Vampire0 [03:12] when I try to upgrade my ubuntu 16.04, I come to this error: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. [03:12] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [03:12] ubuntu-snappy-cli : Depends: snapd but it is not installed [03:12] E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [03:12] ? [03:13] liuxg_: how did you try to upgrade? [03:13] however, when I try to do it, the error is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823361/ [03:13] k1l_, yes, I did upgrade my system. [03:13] liuxg_: how [03:14] k1l_, I did "sudo apt-get upgrade" [03:14] that is not upgradin to 16.04 [03:14] k1l_, it is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823368/ [03:14] ah wait, you are alread on 16.04. then please ask in #ubuntu+1 [03:15] k1l_, thanks [03:16] k1l_: maybe you can help with this issue. I use the mic built into my laptop. Now, if I play music or, watch a video, or chat with someone, whatever is outputted(whether I'm using the laptop speakers, or headphones) gets inputted as well. [03:24] do i need to turn my networking off and back on after starting gufw? [03:24] and does gufw need to be run as root [03:30] rda: usually, yes [03:30] rda: gksudo gufw is your friend [03:40] So I'm pretty new to the ubuntu community and I've been interested in getting some projects under my belt. I have some programing experience, but I really want to do more and would like to contribute. Does anyone know of a noob friendly project that could use some help? [03:43] <_28_ria> Hello, I don't get it, with this new upstart sutuation. I can't figure out how to start bind9 without computer restart. I have 15.10. I needed to temporarily stop bind, than start. just 'start bind9' or bind or named doesn't work, "Unknown job: bind9" or named or bind. It didn't stop with command stop either, talking about unknown job. So, I stopped with 'service bind9 stop' [03:44] durksauce, have you checked sourceforge yet? [03:44] <_28_ria> , but 'service bind9 start' doesn't work. /etc/init.d/bind9 start doesn't either. [03:45] <_28_ria> gives me: * Starting domain name service... bind9; ...fail! [03:45] I've actually been looking through git hub, but there seems to be a lot to go through with little direction. I was just wondering if anyone had any more specific suggestions [03:47] durk, I think your best bet is to pick an area of personal interest, then get to know the community. The best code happens when it's something the coder really likes. [03:47] <_28_ria> durksauce: gpodder is really cool and useful. Easy project, but have some bugs about youtube playlist importing, especially. I'd suggest you that [03:51] <_28_ria> how can I start named (bind9) service on ubuntu 15.10? [03:52] <_28_ria> I've stopped it with 'service bind9 stop', but cant't start with 'service bind9 start', or 'initctl start bind9', or named, or bind, ether, or 'start bind9' with named or bind variations. Didn't work [03:52] <_28_ria> . [03:52] well, I don't know that. But I know that rndc(8) can do a lot of things with a running named process. [03:53] <_28_ria> I know that it will get started after, reboot, but..., heck, how do you do it without a reboot. [03:53] <_28_ria> this is annoying [03:54] "rndc reload" loads config and all zones; "rndc reconfig" loads config changes and new zones, ... [03:56] <_28_ria> rob0: I've just tried and read the help, it only works on a running named process, as you mentioned earlier. [03:56] yes [03:56] <_28_ria> google of no help either [03:57] I'd look at the wiki [03:57] <_28_ria> some unrelated info comes up in search [03:57] <_28_ria> rob0: bind wiki? [04:00] good morning to all [04:00] <_28_ria> lotuspsychje: good evening :) [04:02] does anyone know when changelogs.ubuntu.com maintenance will be complete? or know how I can find out? trying to do a do-release-upgrade :-) [04:03] _28_ria, there's nothing like that I know of, and your problem is with Ubuntu, not BIND. [04:04] <_28_ria> rob0: so, ubuntu wiki? [04:04] odo_: release upgrade from wich to wich? [04:05] lotuspsychje: from 12.04 server to 14.04 server [04:06] odo_: you can ask in #ubuntu-mirrors for known issues on repos, if safe to upgrade [04:08] lotuspsychje: k... it should be safe. for whatever reason, changelogs.ubuntu.com has been under maintenance all day so do-release-upgrade isn't able to download /meta-release-lts [04:08] _28_ria, "sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart" is all I can find, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto (which is actually wrong in context in that article, "rndc reload" would be better.) [04:09] no idea why that's not working for you, sorry [04:09] odo_: im sure they #ubuntu-mirror guys can test that out, when its back up again so you can upgrade :p [04:10] lotuspsychje: k, thanks for the pointer! [04:11] <_28_ria> rob0: 'sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart' doesn't help. I've found, on http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/bind9 '/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart', but it doesn't exist. [04:12] _28_ria: is it listed in "sudo service --status-all" [04:12] <_28_ria> Ben64: yes [04:13] then there you go, start it using service [04:13] <_28_ria> [ - ] bind9 [04:13] <_28_ria> _28_ria: doesn't work [04:13] doesn't work how [04:14] <_28_ria> Ben64: I was getting the error for you :) :* Starting domain name service... bind9; ...fail! [04:15] why did you stop it, have you changed anything [04:15] <_28_ria> _28_ria: /etc/init.d/bind9 does the same thing [04:17] <_28_ria> Ben64: I wanted to change the named.conf.options for bind on listen only to certain ip addresses, not 'any', but after service didn't launch, I've reverted the config back to it's original state. So, in this way, nothing has changed in the configuration. [04:18] sounds like you need to fix the config then [04:18] <_28_ria> Ben64: how? [04:18] i can't see your config [04:18] <_28_ria> Ben64: it's the way it was before. I only changed one line, that I've returned back to the way it was. [04:19] or so you think [04:21] <_28_ria> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823856/ [04:21] <_28_ria> Ben64: here is how it was and is now. [04:22] doesn't look like the standard config, what version of ubuntu [04:22] when ever i click a mp3 file to download, it starts playing/streaming in firefox. Even I have disabled all plugins but still it happens. I want to download, not listen or stream. How to do that? [04:23] <_28_ria> Ben64: here is the change, that I've tried to do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823867/ [04:23] Thinker_: what about right-click -> save as? [04:23] _28_ria: yep, both are bad [04:24] <_28_ria> It was running with that first pastebin config, I showed you, Ben64 [04:24] _28_ria: no it wasn't [04:24] rud0lf, It works for normal websites. But actually, I just have a link from that server. So, I need to download that file by pasting link in adress bar [04:24] Thinker_: you can also check Config->Applications [04:24] <_28_ria> Ben64: too bad I can't show you the netstat -nlp that I saw, when it was running. [04:24] rud0lf, ok i'll see [04:25] and set mp3 to 'always ask' for example [04:25] <_28_ria> Ben64: What can I change than? [04:25] _28_ria: what version of linux are you on [04:25] Is it possible to configure Orca so it doesn't read window titles, and hyperlinks? [04:26] <_28_ria> Ben64: Ubuntu 15.10 === ludkiller is now known as paresh [04:26] rud0lf, it still streams..... [04:26] hmm you can also use wget instead of firefox [04:27] oh...I forgot...thanks for reminding === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 [04:27] _28_ria: you're missing a }; [04:27] <_28_ria> Ben64: It starts, after I reboot, for some reason, I just can't start it without reboot. [04:28] <_28_ria> Ben64: OK, I see it now, when I changed it back, I removed the outermost curly, thanx. I will try. [04:28] _28_ria: you also didn't put it in your changed version [04:29] Thinker_: found it [04:29] go to about:config and change "media.play-stand-alone" to false [04:29] <_28_ria> Ben64: I just added the line to the first pastebin, to show you what I tried to do === grumpycat is now known as cats === athairus is now known as afkthairus [04:31] <_28_ria> Ben64: OK, it launched, thanx. I fel't, at some point that it could be because of the config, but because I am not experienced on bind config at all, I didn't see what was wrong. === adante_ is now known as adante [04:32] _28_ria: make a copy of anything you're going to mess with === King is now known as King` [04:37] is it possible to update my kernel in ubuntu 14.04? [04:38] guideX: yup [04:38] Linux is one of the simplest parts of GNU/Linux to update [04:38] it's just a file the boot loader is pointed at [04:39] so just put this right sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid [04:39] that will at most install linux-generic-lts-vivid, and at least do nothing harmful [04:40] oki, here goes [04:41] somehow my vps puts 2.6 [04:42] guideX: then you probably can't change your kernel === zwiep is now known as zwiep` [04:52] yes I can't change the kernel it seems [04:52] what are the flags for rsync that ONLY transfer the file changes? I have a massive log file that I"m trying to back up over an unreliable connection [04:55] jeeves_moss: that's default, IIRC [04:55] jeeves_moss: so you might do rsync -av [04:55] stuff you can do with --partial, etc., too, but you probably don't need to [04:56] my standard is rsync -avPe ssh [04:56] jeeves_moss: in think you need a -u update -- , --update skip files that are newer on the receiver [04:56] --inplace update destination files in-place [04:57] Blue1, I currently have -rPzu selected, but when the connection drops, it goes back to the start of the 5Gb file [04:57] i haven't messed with rsync in awhile [04:57] we're trying to run screaming for the hills from 1and1. we're getting ~150kB/s [04:57] jeeves_moss: the beginning should be going very fast though [04:58] nope. not here. seems capped. The end it's going to is a data center connection (100Mb) [04:58] jeeves_moss: there is a gui front end for rsync called grsync -- YMMV applies. [04:59] Blue1, They're CLI only systems [04:59] jeeves_moss: forget what I said.... === fengshaun_ is now known as fengshaun [04:59] jeeves_moss: let me look at the man for rync [05:00] jeeves_moss: try rsync -avPz [05:00] thanks. [05:00] lets see if I can get around the drops, and the crappy speed [05:01] jeeves_moss: comcast? [05:01] 1and1 --> Toronto [05:01] the -z might actually slow it down, depending on things [05:01] ahh [05:01] naaa, beefy systems on each end. the slow transfer I think is the 150KB/s cap. they know we're running, so..... [05:02] ugh, now I'm getting a bunch of premissions errors. === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [05:49] what audioplayer offers best visualizations and radio station management? [05:49] hi, i bought ubuntu cd's from the ubuntu store on ebay and i still haven't received them. 200$ is a lot of money so i'd like to find out where my cd is. [05:51] duoi: people in here can't really help with that, try contacting canonical support [05:51] <[Saint]> WHy on Earth would anyone buy Ubuntu CDs? [05:51] Last I checked, LiveCDs were free [05:51] Just download and burn [05:51] !shop | duoi [05:51] duoi: Buy some Official Ubuntu Merchandise & Professional Support. See https://shop.canonical.com/ [05:52] duoi: http://shop.canonical.com/contact_us.php [05:52] !shop | duoi [05:52] duoi, please see my private message [05:52] [Saint]: some users dont have fast internet, thats where bought cd/dvd come in handy [05:53] !players | RoadRunner [05:53] RoadRunner: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs [05:54] <[Saint]> lotuspsychje: the slowest Internet in the world isn;t going to convince me that spending $200 buying CDs for a free operating system is a good idea. [05:54] [Saint]: we dont know details yet, perhaps he bought dvd's for a whole school :p [05:55] $200? sounds like you got ripped off [05:55] <[Saint]> Does canonical even have a registered official eBay presence? [05:56] i dont think so, the shop seems the only official [05:56] no idea [05:56] <[Saint]> cursory search says no. [05:56] <[Saint]> ...you done goofed, OP. [05:56] lotuspsychje: I know there is a bunch out there :), trying out Audacious now, but vizualizations and bookmark management are amiss, so if you have one or two specific recomendations, I'd appreciate [05:57] can't even find ubuntu on ebay for more than like $8 [05:57] $200 = 8 packs of 20 dvd's. Or more likly 7 + vat + shipping. [05:57] but they aren't one time use [05:58] <[Saint]> Seveas: you seem to have purchased from some retailer entirely out of canonicals control - not receiving your good doesn't appear to be canonicals problem at all. [05:58] [Saint]: I didn't purchase anything :) [05:58] RoadRunner: amarok had visualisations,..but havent used it for a real long time [05:59] <[Saint]> Seveas: argh, sorry, you're right. Messed up the nicks. [06:00] lotuspsychje: I've read its specs (as well as Clementine's) and they both seem to be big on DRM... so I skipped them.. [06:00] wut === badon_ is now known as badon === grumpycat is now known as cats === nesthib_ is now known as nesthib === LjL^ is now known as LjL === genpaku_ is now known as genpaku === ryan`c is now known as ryan-c === joe75_ is now known as joe75 === lift_ is now known as lift === gbell1 is now known as gbell === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === StathisA_ is now known as StathisA === DaveQB14 is now known as DaveQB === Triffid_Hunter_ is now known as Triffid_Hunter === mnepton is now known as mneptok === MrJack1 is now known as MrJack === Humbedoo` is now known as Humbedooh [06:09] re: projectM for PulseAudio streams; how does that work? I start projectM first, then Aucacious, play a song and projectM just knows that there is music playing and does vis? === med_ is now known as Guest46337 === screedoz is now known as screedo === step21_ is now known as step21 === dean|away is now known as dean [06:22] 怎么玩？ [06:23] !zn | btqyxz === shroud is now known as Guest99020 [06:23] !zh | btqyxz [06:23] btqyxz: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw === Guest99020 is now known as shroud_ [06:29] Can I upgrade ubuntu 14.04 lts to 16.04 beta 2? === soul is now known as Guest98720 [06:29] nitish: not until 16.04.1 apparently, about 2 months after normal release. [06:30] <_28_ria> Ben64: yes, you are right, :), I usually do it (make a copy), but didn't didn't do it this time :), ironic. [06:31] somsip: I thought I can upgrate it after 21st april. [06:31] nitish: so did I, but one of the ops said about needing to wait until 16.04.1, though possibly with some way of forcing an immediate upgrade on 21st April. I'll research... [06:32] Where should i ask question about ubuntu? [06:32] shibly: here [06:32] somsip: oh yes, I had also read somewhere that there is some problem in upgrading 14.04 to 16.04 [06:32] http://askubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ ? [06:33] shibly: here [06:33] nitish: upgrades can always be forced. Whether that's advisable or not, I'll leave for you to decide :) [06:33] nitish: there was such note on xenial release notes but it's gone [06:33] Among those forums? [06:33] nitish: easily overridable with a '-d' flag apparently http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-from-a-lts-to-the-next [06:33] Which forum to use? [06:33] shibly: no, here [06:33] What's wrong with forums? [06:33] those are not instant :) [06:33] shibly: nothing. But you may get an immediate reply here. Then again, you might not [06:34] somsip: I prefer download a new iso & install it. But what is the best way to backup of current settings? [06:34] If i have to ask question on forums, then which one would i pick? [06:34] http://askubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ ? [06:34] askubuntu isn't a forum, it's a Q&A site. [06:35] Yes, [06:35] nitish: current settings *may* not be compatible with 16.04 settings. So difficult to give a definitive answer. Crap answer I know [06:35] Which site should i ask question to? [06:36] shibly: askubuntu is possibly busier. Just ask your question [06:37] Isn't Debian enough/better than ubuntu? [06:38] shibly: you are in #ubuntu here, so we recommend ubuntu [06:38] finally got my lvm issue working [06:38] 12TB of space now :D [06:38] shibly: offtopic here. This is the ubuntu support channel. Ask your support question or take yourself to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat [06:39] boa: wanna share what was wrong and what fixxed it in short detail? [06:39] ended up nuking the entire thing [06:39] lsot aboout 4.5 tb of data :( [06:40] boa: specificly? [06:40] well, i had an existing 6.8 tb lvm volume group set up over 3 different sized hdds which works fine for about 2 years [06:40] went to extend it with a new 5tb drive i got today, and it was poreting the wrong size on the last drive [06:40] so i used sudo lvchange -an to disbale lvm so i could rebmove the drive [06:41] then the entire lvm group would refuse to mount. only way i could find to fix it was to completly nuke all data and just set up a new vlm group [06:41] boa: ok tnx [06:42] lvm is just a pain in general. i think zfs is better [06:42] boa: you can use photorec for data recovery perhaps [06:42] ya i could have if it was that important [06:42] it was just media though [06:42] kk [06:42] :D [06:42] i see microcenter has the 1231v3 on for $209. [06:42] not bad [06:43] !discuss | boa [06:43] boa: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [06:43] heh [06:43] sorry [06:47] I see almost all the subscribed threads are closed in http://ubuntuforums.org , why? [06:49] I made an application and would like to try packaging it for ubuntu touch --should I use snap? [06:49] !touch | bumblehead [06:49] bumblehead: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch === cglocke` is now known as cglocke [06:51] none of the main menu items there relates to appliction development [06:51] its a generic link [06:51] i know that ubuntu touch does not use snap [06:52] what I'm really asking is --will touch use snap in the near future [06:52] should I expect a snap package to be usable on desktop and phone some day soon? [06:52] !info snapcraft | bumblehead [06:52] bumblehead: snapcraft (source: snapcraft): easily craft snaps. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3 (wily), package size 25 kB, installed size 149 kB [06:53] bumblehead: read the artice on softpedia or omgubuntu [06:53] i will search for a link --do you have one? [06:53] bumblehead: yeah holdon [06:54] bumblehead: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages [06:55] interesting thanks [06:56] snaps, if it is as 'snap'-like and easy as it sounds and if it works on mobile and desktop [06:56] i think it will encourage much more development [06:57] bumblehead: it sure will, so keep an eye on 16.04 next week release, for now idle in #ubuntu+1 [06:57] yeah it looks like a 'quiet release' but I think this is really quite an achievement [06:58] and a good milestone to reach before making unity 8 a first-class desktop offerent on pc [06:58] !discuss | bumblehead [06:58] bumblehead: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [06:58] CLI IRC client lol D: [07:01] I have a little support question, actually. [07:02] My wifi appears to work just fine until I try to play a game, like dota2, during which I experience intermittent lag spikes [07:03] I've been running pings to google in the background for a while now and it appears quite happy until a game starts [07:03] I've disabled power management, 802.11n, turned off co-exist with bluetooth [07:03] Redbeardt: dota2 online over wifi? [07:03] yeah [07:04] Redbeardt: perhaps you should test this over cable also, compare the performance [07:04] I've tried cable and it works just fine [07:05] but I figured that the fact that the connection is generally so stable outside of the game indicated that there was something wrong with the 'kind' of traffic the game used [07:05] I'm not really savvy enough with networking to know how [07:05] wifi has higher latency than ethernet [07:05] Redbeardt: high end graphics games is bit endurance for a computer, so it will bottleneck the weak points [07:05] Sure, but I've playd games over wifi before at length with no issues whatsoever. [07:06] dota isnt graphically deamnding [07:06] your lag is probably from u sing wifi [07:07] what is your ping on wifi comapred to ethernet [07:07] Hell, I used to play FPS tethered to my phone, which shared its WiFi connection with my desktop PC, without a hitch. [07:07] Ah I don't have that information === maxime is now known as Guest98623 [07:07] Pings to google come back aroud 10ms though [07:07] on wifi [07:08] google pings arent really that useful in this discussion [07:08] fair [07:08] youd be more concerned with your ping on dota servers [07:08] iirc the pings in dota on wifi were about 70ms [07:08] damn. high [07:08] you reckon? [07:08] so im just confirming, no lag issues on cable? [07:08] that's lower than when I was playing from Australia [07:09] right === balachmar is now known as wligtenberg [07:09] so the issue is the wifi [07:09] what is your wifi strength === zhxt__ is now known as zhxt [07:09] Redbeardt: you could try a tail -f /var/log/syslog while gaming and see how wifi reacts there [07:10] Redbeardt: but i would strongly suggest gaming over cable instead [07:10] is this a laptop? [07:10] What's the easiest way to check wifi on CLI? :p [07:10] Yeah [07:10] so cable is prob not practical [07:10] Cable gaming isn't really an option in my situation haha [07:11] just curious. does your wifi have this lag issues on windows? [07:11] Redbeardt: are you using tlp? [07:11] I wish I could say.. I installed Ubuntu as soon as I got the laptop. -_- [07:11] It's my first Linux foray and I mnaged to stuff up my windows boot manager [07:12] I gave up on fixing it after a few days so that's gone [07:12] iwconfig shows -59 dBm [07:12] I don't know what tlp is [07:12]