[00:01] <Keton> Hi I'm new to linux:ubuntu and I would like to learn more about Ubuntu. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[00:01] <Ben64> !manual | Keton
[00:01] <Keton> Thank you
[00:16] <sebsebseb> How to remove Ubuntu with a computer dual booting with WIndows 10,  oh just seen there's a aritfcle on something, hmm but that person was earlier
[00:27] <House_> if there a problem or a better way than adding a sudoers rule for /sbin/mount to allow non-admin users to mount cifs shares from another machine? (headless server install)
[00:30] <Ben64> House_: i can think of many ways i could get root access that way
[00:31] <House_> so something like `%mounters ALL=/sbin/mount` is bad?  isn't this what sudo is designed to do?
[00:32] <Ben64> House_: yeah but mount is a powerful command
[00:33] <House_> id prefer not need sudo, just for the fact of introducing it as a command and concept to non-admin users
[00:34] <House_> i've got SSSD+AD integration going, so i thought there might be another way with sssd/pam or something that bestows mount permission for AD users to mount their other network resources in a neat way
[00:35] <House_> i've got "ssh ad-user@linuxserver" working, and the user logs in to a /home/<domain>/username folder, but i'd like to have sso-type login to a couple of NAS volumes
[00:35] <hypercube32> House_, AD isn't a way to control what commands are being run, only ownership and permissions. .....
[00:36] <House_> up to now i've just been scp-ing and such, but i've been playing with AD and wanted to let others start using this machine for a couple of things
[00:36] <hypercube32> just put the NFS into the right group and AD the users for that group
[00:37] <hypercube32> just allowing mount with sudo is a very bad idea.  be extremely specific if you are using mount, like only that exact mount point (if you really have to go down that path)
[00:37] <hypercube32> and bad to have user logs go to home folder, make a centralized rsyslog server instead so they cant alter or remove them or something bad
[00:37] <House_> hypercube32: i can put AD groups into sudoers.  im looking to mount external AD controlled shares on a NAS to the user accounts on this linux machine.  i was expecting that there might be a sssd or pam way of allowing mounting, without bringing sudo into it
[00:40] <House_> hypercube32: not needed for logs, etc.  fine to have a local home folder on the server, but want to give users a way of mounting their own shares elsewhere (not home folders) into this linux machine so they can transfer files between them. no gui, no need to teach them scp, etc, just "mount //nas/myshare /home/ad/user/mymount/" without needing sudo
[00:41] <boa> anyone here versed in lvm
[00:41] <boa> having a bit of an issue
[00:42] <hypercube32> House_, are you talking something like an NFS mounted home directory? (like how windows has remote desktop?)
[00:42] <hypercube32> (some companies ive worked at actually do just that.)
[00:42] <hypercube32> oh ok
[00:42] <hypercube32> House_, sounds more like you're re-inventing an FTP ;)
[00:43] <j5n3wt0n> hi, what is the most current download for java?
[00:43] <boa> i added a new drive to my  lvm, but its not the right size.
[00:43] <boa> and im trying to remove it
[00:43] <boa> anyone able to help me
[00:43] <hypercube32> i think it would be harder for them to figure out all the mounting and junk rather than just keeping one nfs mount for them or ftp account for them
[00:44] <House_> hypercube32: :)   just a couple of personal/group share folders that users access from their desktops, and occasionally need to jump onto this server to run some batch conversions or put files somewhere, and having some smb mounts that they can attach of their own volition is what i'm looking for
[00:44] <hypercube32> j5n3wt0n, whatever is actually the JDK/JRE on oracle's site probably (if you're going for oracle.) otherwise openjdk you'd have to either deal with your distro or go look beyond that
[00:44] <hypercube32> House_, might be much easier if you have just one NFS mount on all boxes (as nfs client) and then each give them a folder that has their name only they have perms to.. sort of the way ftp works.
[00:45] <hypercube32> aka like how windows does shared folder
[00:45] <k1l_> j5n3wt0n: what ubuntu version?
[00:45] <j5n3wt0n> k1l_: 14.04
[00:45] <k1l_> j5n3wt0n: jdk or jre?
[00:45] <Hydr0p0nX> House_, Any reason you couldn't have a /home/$user/share directory that gets mounted to /nas/user via login script ?
[00:46] <j5n3wt0n> k1l_: not sure how to find out
[00:46] <k1l_> j5n3wt0n: what do you need java for?
[00:46] <House_> hi Hydr0p0nX:  ok for /nas/$username but sometimes there's /nas/$projectname and they come and go
[00:47] <j5n3wt0n> k1l_: to log into work and i think for ynab
[00:47] <k1l_> j5n3wt0n: so browser plugin?
[00:47] <j5n3wt0n> yup
[00:47] <j5n3wt0n> k1l_: yup
[00:49] <boa> any help with this
[00:49] <boa> http://pastebin.com/MVmruk2w
[00:49] <boa> http://pastebin.com/dNsysntv
[00:49] <boa>  /dev/sdd1 is showing as 2.00 TiB but it's a 5TB drive
[00:50] <boa> df -h /dev/sdd1 shows it as 2.0G which just makes no sense to me
[00:50] <k1l_> j5n3wt0n: install "icedtea-plugin"
[00:51] <boa> odd, its shoiwing the 5tb as sdb now. :(
[00:51] <j5n3wt0n> k1l_: thank you
[00:52] <Hydr0p0nX> House_: any reason you can't link project directories to /nas/user as needed? It's more of an administrative headache for the windows admins but will make auditors happy
[00:53] <cooper__> ubuntu-mate ,how to set second monitor for first?
[00:55] <House_> Hydr0p0nX no control over that. its from a nas appliance, so not sure it can be done (( i think you're suggesting soft-linking the project into the users personal spaces on the nas, and just mounting the userfolders to the linux server. correct me if im wrong))
[00:57] <Hydr0p0nX> House_, yes that's what I'm suggesting, it's how we handle product releases on our Secure ftp appliance, what kind of nas is this ?
[00:58] <House_> dell FS
[00:58] <tonyt> can someone look at http://pastebin.com/kjMnGunu and tell me whats wrong. i went to install vmware but it gave me an error and said to read that log. cant figure it out
[01:00] <k1l_> tonyt: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[01:02] <boa> im wondering if ppl cant see what i type
[01:02] <boa> or if im just being ignored
[01:02] <boa> :(
[01:02] <k1l_> boa: or maybe no one is active who knows about lvm stuff
[01:02] <boa> i guess
[01:06] <Hydr0p0nX> House_: it's possible to some extent, assuming Global NameSpace is setup
[01:08] <Hydr0p0nX> House_: even better, assuming you're using FluidFS 5+ , symlinking is covered in the online adminstration guide - http://www.dell.com/support/manuals/us/en/19/dell-compellent-fs8600/FluidFS-V5.0-Admin-Guide/Using-Symbolic-Links?guid=GUID-56A1C936-7AC6-45FF-B786-59EF98F246FE&lang=en-us
[01:09] <cool_boy> hi there,
[01:10] <Hydr0p0nX> heya cool_boy
[01:10] <cool_boy> I have installed a service inside /etc/init.d , I start service like sudo service my-server start, it shows me Starting my-server: my-server, but if I try to stop it shows
[01:10] <cool_boy> Stopping my-server: start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 20187: No such process
[01:10] <cool_boy> where can I get logs, why this service was killed?
[01:10] <Hydr0p0nX> what service ?
[01:12] <rhorse_> Hi again. Can a swap partition be set up as a logical partition within an extended partition?
[01:12] <Bashing-om> rhorse_: Yes .
[01:13] <rhorse_> Thank you, Bashing-om
[01:14] <cool_boy> Hydr0p0nX:  its this http://www.theopensourcerer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/odoo-server
[01:15] <cool_boy> I have copied it from same link
[01:15] <Bashing-om> rhorse_: :)
[01:17] <House_> thanks Hydr0p0nX
[01:19] <Hydr0p0nX> cool_boy: 1. verify the user "odoo" exists, then check dmesg for errors
[01:19] <Hydr0p0nX> oh, and check /var/log/ for any logs related to the services
[01:20] <cool_boy> Hydr0p0nX: I am on bitnami aws, so I changed 'odoo' to 'bitnami' user bitnami exists
[01:20] <tonyt> k1l im on linux mint. decided to give vbox a shot instead
[01:20] <cool_boy> I do not find any log file under /var/log for this specific service
[01:20] <k1l_> tonyt: yeah, please ask the mint channels for support, that are made autojoinin your irc client.
[01:21] <k1l_> tonyt: mint handles kernels and kernel headers differently than ubuntu. so we cant help on that
[01:29] <tonyt> k1l, ok. i asked mints help chan/server. they told me i should go on freenode and ask but decided it was easier to jsut go with vbox
[01:35] <John[Lisbeth]> I am trying to do-release upgrade to ubuntu Wiley but it says that there are no new upgrdes available
[01:35] <Ben64> from what version
[01:35] <John[Lisbeth]> 14.04.<Idon'tknow>
[01:35] <k1l_> John[Lisbeth]: changelogs.ubuntu.com server had a crash and so the updater cant calculate the updates right now.
[01:36] <John[Lisbeth]> lol go figure
[01:36] <Ben64> if you wait a bit over a week you can upgrade straight to 16.04
[01:36] <John[Lisbeth]> Yes thanks
[01:36] <Ben64> saves going through 14.10 and 15.04 EOL upgrades
[01:38] <Techspectre> My mother's machine is running Ubuntu 12.04 and I want to upgrade the distro. But for some reason, while installing 12.04 works fine, the boot disks for 14.04, 15.04 and 15.10 will not boot. All versions are 64 bit. Why would 12.04 install fine while the newer ones will not?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> Techspectre: Graphic's card ??? maybe .
[01:40] <Techspectre> Bashing-om, it gives me a message saying something about trace.
[01:40] <Techspectre> Ending trace or something
[01:45] <rda> do i need to turn my networking off and back on after starting gufw?
[01:46] <rda> and does gufw need to be run as root
[01:47] <metroins> I'm having an issue with netflix and chromium
[01:47] <metroins> I'm googling it now, but does anybody know anything about why it won't load now?
[01:47] <r00st3r3> metroins, use firefox
[01:48] <metroins> r00st3r3: know of a chromecast extension for firefox?
[01:50] <neutron> Hello, not to sure about the etiquette of asking questions here, is anyone knowledgeable on luks encrypted drives? I'm having difficulty getting into mine after a botched calibre library making attempt.
[01:50] <KD8NXH> I just installed ubuntu 15.10 on my laptop. I did ALL the updates abut when I do a "do-release-upgrade" or "do-release-upgrade" it says there are no upgrades avalible as of 16.04 does not even exist.
[01:50] <ksft> metroins: I had a similar problem
[01:50] <KD8NXH> ~but
[01:50] <ksft> it said that I had to use Chrome when I was using Chromium
[01:51] <Ben64> KD8NXH: because it doesn't
[01:51] <ksft> Chrome worked
[01:51] <metroins> ksft: Thanks.  I'm installing Chrome now, we'll see how it goes.
[01:51] <r00st3r3> metroins, for android yes but not for Linux... sorry. Did Netflix ever work in Chromium?
[01:51] <ksft> r00st3r3: for me it didn't
[01:51] <k1l_> KD8NXH: changelogs.ubuntu.com server had a crash and so the updater cant calculate the updates right now.
[01:51] <metroins> I think I was using Chrome a few months ago and switched to Chromium and haven't tried netflix since on this pc
[01:52] <r00st3r3> I like Chromium but Google Chrome does seem to work better with apps.
[01:55] <metroins> I think I remember why I switched to Chromium; my google cast stopped working and wouldn't install when I updated Chrome
[01:56] <metroins> It's not showing as an extension and when I try to install it only recognizes my phones, not this ubuntu box
[01:56] <metroins> nevermind, fixed it
[02:01] <k1l_> KD8NXH: server should be fixed now.
[02:01] <k1l_> KD8NXH: if you run "sudo do-release-upgrade" with the -d for developer switch it should offer an upgrade now
[02:08] <KD8NXH> k1l_: OK
[02:18] <KD8NXH> k1l_: how risky is doing the -d option?
[02:19] <k1l_> KD8NXH: well, you wanted to upgrade to the beta 16.04. that will be released on 21st april. until that its in the developer mode.
[02:20] <KD8NXH> ok
[02:21] <KD8NXH> so 15.10 is the latest release for end users right now?
[02:21] <k1l_> yes
[02:21] <KD8NXH> oh ok
[02:21] <KD8NXH> i thought that 16.04 was already out
[02:21] <KD8NXH> It probably wont hurt me
[02:22] <KD8NXH> hopefully
[02:27] <KD8NXH> I guess reading the channel topic every once and a while would be a good idea
[02:27] <KD8NXH> haha
[02:27] <[Saint]> Anyone want to play a game?
[02:27] <[Saint]> The game is called: "Tell me why on Earth I can't get my encrypted home to decrypt on authenticated ssh login?"
[02:27] <[Saint]> It's been driving me batty.
[02:27] <KD8NXH> oh gosh
[02:28] <KD8NXH> so you are locked out of your stuff [Saint]?
[02:28] <[Saint]> Having to do decrypt manually isn't exactly problematic, but, I can't figure out why I have to do this/automate doing this, and why it doesn't Just Work automagically on a server install.
[02:29] <KD8NXH> oh
[02:29] <[Saint]> KD8NXH: Oh, no, not at all. It just adds an annoying secondary action to logins occasionally.
[02:31] <[Saint]> Only seems to be an issue with the server install. I guess the gnome-keyring chain handles it in *buntu proper.
[02:34] <[Saint]> hmmmm, so - I think I can automate this in a sane and non-annoying way.
[02:38] <[Saint]> dropping a bodgy test script that auto-runs ecryptfs-mount-private if required in the unencrypted ~ seems to work as expected.
[02:39] <Oswmano> Hello
[02:39] <reisio> 'lo
[02:42] <adrian_1908> hello. I've having a strange issue. Suddenly my system/UI lags when putting peak workloads on the CPU. The program I'm running also runs slower than before. Any idea what might cause this change? The program is the same.
[02:46] <pharpend> adrian_1908: have you considered that it might be due to you putting peak workloads on the cpu?
[02:47] <adrian_1908> pharpend: No, that didn't cause any issues before. It's the same program I've been running in the past weeks, no new code.
[02:48] <adrian_1908> I see nothing suspicious in the taskmanager either.
[02:48] <abracadabrababy> I have tried many calendars (thunderbird, gnome-calendar, evolution, korganizer). Is there a calendar that's fully keyboard and screen reader accessible?
[02:49] <pharpend> abracadabrababy: I've been meaning to write one
[02:49] <pharpend> abracadabrababy: I've had the same problem
[03:12] <liuxg_> when I try to upgrade my ubuntu 16.04, I come to this error: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[03:12] <liuxg_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:12] <liuxg_>  ubuntu-snappy-cli : Depends: snapd but it is not installed
[03:12] <liuxg_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[03:12] <lion> ?
[03:13] <k1l_> liuxg_: how did you try to upgrade?
[03:13] <liuxg_> however, when I try to do it, the error is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823361/
[03:13] <liuxg_> k1l_, yes, I did upgrade my system.
[03:13] <k1l_> liuxg_: how
[03:14] <liuxg_> k1l_, I did "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:14] <k1l_> that is not upgradin to 16.04
[03:14] <liuxg_> k1l_, it is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823368/
[03:14] <k1l_> ah wait, you are alread on 16.04. then please ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:15] <liuxg_> k1l_, thanks
[03:16] <nauticalnexus> k1l_: maybe you can help with this issue. I use the mic built into my laptop. Now, if I play music or, watch a video, or chat with someone, whatever is outputted(whether I'm using the laptop speakers, or headphones) gets inputted as well.
[03:24] <rda> do i need to turn my networking off and back on after starting gufw?
[03:24] <rda> and does gufw need to be run as root
[03:30] <pharpend> rda: usually, yes
[03:30] <pharpend> rda: gksudo gufw is your friend
[03:40] <durksauce> So I'm pretty new to the ubuntu community and I've been interested in getting some projects under my belt. I have some programing experience, but I really want to do more and would like to contribute. Does anyone know of a noob friendly project that could use some help?
[03:43] <_28_ria> Hello, I don't get it, with this new upstart sutuation. I can't figure out how to start bind9 without computer restart. I have 15.10. I needed to temporarily stop bind, than start. just 'start bind9' or bind or named doesn't work, "Unknown job: bind9" or named or bind. It didn't stop with command stop either, talking about unknown job. So, I stopped with 'service bind9 stop'
[03:44] <r00st3r3> durksauce, have you checked sourceforge yet?
[03:44] <_28_ria> , but 'service bind9 start' doesn't work. /etc/init.d/bind9 start doesn't either.
[03:45] <_28_ria> gives me:  * Starting domain name service... bind9; ...fail!
[03:45] <durksauce> I've actually been looking through git hub, but there seems to be a lot to go through with little direction. I was just wondering if anyone had any more specific suggestions
[03:47] <rob0> durk, I think your best bet is to pick an area of personal interest, then get to know the community.  The best code happens when it's something the coder really likes.
[03:47] <_28_ria> durksauce: gpodder is really cool and useful. Easy project, but have some bugs about youtube playlist importing, especially. I'd suggest you that
[03:51] <_28_ria> how can I start named (bind9) service on ubuntu 15.10?
[03:52] <_28_ria> I've stopped it with 'service bind9 stop', but cant't start with 'service bind9 start', or 'initctl start bind9', or named, or bind, ether, or 'start bind9' with named or bind variations. Didn't work
[03:52] <_28_ria> .
[03:52] <rob0> well, I don't know that.  But I know that rndc(8) can do a lot of things with a running named process.
[03:53] <_28_ria> I know that it will get started after, reboot, but..., heck, how do you do it without a reboot.
[03:53] <_28_ria> this is annoying
[03:54] <rob0> "rndc reload" loads config and all zones; "rndc reconfig" loads config changes and new zones, ...
[03:56] <_28_ria> rob0: I've just tried and read the help, it only works on a running named process, as you mentioned earlier.
[03:56] <rob0> yes
[03:56] <_28_ria> google of no help either
[03:57] <rob0> I'd look at the wiki
[03:57] <_28_ria> some unrelated info comes up in search
[03:57] <_28_ria> rob0: bind wiki?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:00] <_28_ria> lotuspsychje: good evening :)
[04:02] <odo_> does anyone know when changelogs.ubuntu.com maintenance will be complete? or know how I can find out? trying to do a do-release-upgrade :-)
[04:03] <rob0> _28_ria, there's nothing like that I know of, and your problem is with Ubuntu, not BIND.
[04:04] <_28_ria> rob0: so, ubuntu wiki?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> odo_: release upgrade from wich to wich?
[04:05] <odo_> lotuspsychje: from 12.04 server to 14.04 server
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> odo_: you can ask in #ubuntu-mirrors for known issues on repos, if safe to upgrade
[04:08] <odo_> lotuspsychje: k... it should be safe. for whatever reason, changelogs.ubuntu.com has been under maintenance all day so do-release-upgrade isn't able to download /meta-release-lts
[04:08] <rob0> _28_ria, "sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart" is all I can find, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto (which is actually wrong in context in that article, "rndc reload" would be better.)
[04:09] <rob0> no idea why that's not working for you, sorry
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> odo_: im sure they #ubuntu-mirror guys can test that out, when its back up again so you can upgrade :p
[04:10] <odo_> lotuspsychje: k, thanks for the pointer!
[04:11] <_28_ria> rob0: 'sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart' doesn't help. I've found, on http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/bind9 '/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart', but it doesn't exist.
[04:12] <Ben64> _28_ria: is it listed in "sudo service --status-all"
[04:12] <_28_ria> Ben64: yes
[04:13] <Ben64> then there you go, start it using service
[04:13] <_28_ria> [ - ]  bind9
[04:13] <_28_ria> _28_ria: doesn't work
[04:13] <Ben64> doesn't work how
[04:14] <_28_ria> Ben64: I was getting the error for you :) :* Starting domain name service... bind9; ...fail!
[04:15] <Ben64> why did you stop it, have you changed anything
[04:15] <_28_ria> _28_ria: /etc/init.d/bind9 does the same thing
[04:17] <_28_ria> Ben64: I wanted to change the named.conf.options for bind on listen only to certain ip addresses, not 'any', but after service didn't launch, I've reverted the config back to it's original state. So, in this way, nothing has changed in the configuration.
[04:18] <Ben64> sounds like you need to fix the config then
[04:18] <_28_ria> Ben64: how?
[04:18] <Ben64> i can't see your config
[04:18] <_28_ria> Ben64: it's the way it was before. I only changed one line, that I've returned back to the way it was.
[04:19] <Ben64> or so you think
[04:21] <_28_ria> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823856/
[04:21] <_28_ria> Ben64: here is how it was and is now.
[04:22] <Ben64> doesn't look like the standard config, what version of ubuntu
[04:22] <Thinker_> when ever i click a mp3 file to download, it starts playing/streaming in firefox. Even I have disabled all plugins but still it happens.  I want to download, not listen or stream. How to do that?
[04:23] <_28_ria> Ben64: here is the change, that I've tried to do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15823867/
[04:23] <rud0lf> Thinker_: what about right-click -> save as?
[04:23] <Ben64> _28_ria: yep, both are bad
[04:24] <_28_ria> It was running with that first pastebin config, I showed you, Ben64
[04:24] <Ben64> _28_ria: no it wasn't
[04:24] <Thinker_> rud0lf,  It works for normal websites. But actually, I just have a link from that server. So, I need to download that file by pasting link in adress bar
[04:24] <rud0lf> Thinker_: you can also check Config->Applications
[04:24] <_28_ria> Ben64: too bad I can't show you the netstat -nlp that I saw, when it was running.
[04:24] <Thinker_> rud0lf,  ok i'll see
[04:25] <rud0lf> and set mp3 to 'always ask' for example
[04:25] <_28_ria> Ben64: What can I change than?
[04:25] <Ben64> _28_ria: what version of linux are you on
[04:25] <abracadabrababy> Is it possible to configure Orca so it doesn't read window titles, and hyperlinks?
[04:26] <_28_ria> Ben64: Ubuntu 15.10
[04:26] <Thinker_> rud0lf,  it still streams.....
[04:26] <rud0lf> hmm you can also use wget instead of firefox
[04:27] <Thinker_> oh...I forgot...thanks for reminding
[04:27] <Ben64> _28_ria: you're missing a };
[04:27] <_28_ria> Ben64: It starts, after I reboot, for some reason, I just can't start it without reboot.
[04:28] <_28_ria> Ben64: OK, I see it now, when I changed it back, I removed the outermost curly, thanx. I will try.
[04:28] <Ben64> _28_ria: you also didn't put it in your changed version
[04:29] <rud0lf> Thinker_: found it
[04:29] <rud0lf> go to about:config and change "media.play-stand-alone" to false
[04:29] <_28_ria> Ben64: I just added the line to the first pastebin, to show you what I tried to do
[04:31] <_28_ria> Ben64: OK, it launched, thanx. I fel't, at some point that it could be because of the config, but because I am not experienced on bind config at all, I didn't see what was wrong.
[04:32] <Ben64> _28_ria: make a copy of anything you're going to mess with
[04:37] <guideX> is it possible to update my kernel in ubuntu 14.04?
[04:38] <reisio> guideX: yup
[04:38] <reisio> Linux is one of the simplest parts of GNU/Linux to update
[04:38] <reisio> it's just a file the boot loader is pointed at
[04:39] <guideX> so just put this right sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid
[04:39] <reisio> that will at most install linux-generic-lts-vivid, and at least do nothing harmful
[04:40] <guideX> oki, here goes
[04:41] <guideX> somehow my vps puts 2.6
[04:42] <Ben64> guideX: then you probably can't change your kernel
[04:52] <guideX> yes I can't change the kernel it seems
[04:52] <jeeves_moss> what are the flags for rsync that ONLY transfer the file changes?  I have a massive log file that I"m trying to back up over an unreliable connection
[04:55] <reisio> jeeves_moss: that's default, IIRC
[04:55] <reisio> jeeves_moss: so you might do rsync -av
[04:55] <reisio> stuff you can do with --partial, etc., too, but you probably don't need to
[04:56] <Ben64> my standard is rsync -avPe ssh
[04:56] <Blue1> jeeves_moss: in think you need a -u update -- , --update                skip files that are newer on the receiver
[04:56] <Blue1>             --inplace               update destination files in-place
[04:57] <jeeves_moss> Blue1,  I currently have -rPzu selected, but when the connection drops, it goes back to the start of the 5Gb file
[04:57] <Blue1> i haven't messed with rsync in awhile
[04:57] <jeeves_moss> we're trying to run screaming for the hills from 1and1.  we're getting ~150kB/s
[04:57] <Ben64> jeeves_moss: the beginning should be going very fast though
[04:58] <jeeves_moss> nope.  not here.  seems capped.  The end it's going to is a data center connection (100Mb)
[04:58] <Blue1> jeeves_moss: there is a gui front end for rsync called grsync -- YMMV applies.
[04:59] <jeeves_moss> Blue1, They're CLI only systems
[04:59] <Blue1> jeeves_moss: forget what I said....
[04:59] <Blue1> jeeves_moss: let me look at the man for rync
[05:00] <Ben64> jeeves_moss: try rsync -avPz
[05:00] <jeeves_moss> thanks.
[05:00] <jeeves_moss> lets see if I can get around the drops, and the crappy speed
[05:01] <Blue1> jeeves_moss: comcast?
[05:01] <jeeves_moss> 1and1  --> Toronto
[05:01] <Ben64> the -z might actually slow it down, depending on things
[05:01] <Blue1> ahh
[05:01] <jeeves_moss> naaa, beefy systems on each end.  the slow transfer I think is the 150KB/s cap.  they know we're running, so.....
[05:02] <jeeves_moss> ugh, now I'm getting a bunch of premissions errors.
[05:49] <RoadRunner> what audioplayer offers best visualizations and radio station management?
[05:49] <duoi> hi, i bought ubuntu cd's from the ubuntu store on ebay and i still haven't received them. 200$ is a lot of money so i'd like to find out where my cd is.
[05:51] <Seveas> duoi: people in here can't really help with that, try contacting canonical support
[05:51] <[Saint]> WHy on Earth would anyone buy Ubuntu CDs?
[05:51] <luckybunny> Last I checked, LiveCDs were free
[05:51] <luckybunny> Just download and burn
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !shop | duoi
[05:52] <Seveas> duoi: http://shop.canonical.com/contact_us.php
[05:52] <duoi> !shop | duoi
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> [Saint]: some users dont have fast internet, thats where bought cd/dvd come in handy
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !players | RoadRunner
[05:54] <[Saint]> lotuspsychje: the slowest Internet in the world isn;t going to convince me that spending $200 buying CDs for a free operating system is a good idea.
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> [Saint]: we dont know details yet, perhaps he bought dvd's for a whole school :p
[05:55] <Ben64> $200? sounds like you got ripped off
[05:55] <[Saint]> Does canonical even have a registered official eBay presence?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> i dont think so, the shop seems the only official
[05:56] <Ben64> no idea
[05:56] <[Saint]> cursory search says no.
[05:56] <[Saint]> ...you done goofed, OP.
[05:56] <RoadRunner> lotuspsychje: I know there is a bunch out there :), trying out Audacious now, but vizualizations and bookmark management are amiss, so if you have one or two specific recomendations, I'd appreciate
[05:57] <Ben64> can't even find ubuntu on ebay for more than like $8
[05:57] <Seveas> $200 = 8 packs of 20 dvd's. Or more likly 7 + vat + shipping.
[05:57] <Ben64> but they aren't one time use
[05:58] <[Saint]> Seveas: you seem to have purchased from some retailer entirely out of canonicals control - not receiving your good doesn't appear to be canonicals problem at all.
[05:58] <Seveas> [Saint]: I didn't purchase anything :)
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> RoadRunner: amarok had visualisations,..but havent used it for a real long time
[05:59] <[Saint]> Seveas: argh, sorry, you're right. Messed up the nicks.
[06:00] <RoadRunner> lotuspsychje: I've read its specs (as well as Clementine's) and they both seem to be big on DRM... so I skipped them..
[06:00] <dax> wut
[06:09] <RoadRunner> re: projectM for PulseAudio streams; how does that work? I start projectM first, then Aucacious, play a song and projectM just knows that there is music playing and does vis?
[06:22] <btqyxz> 怎么玩？
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !zn | btqyxz
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !zh | btqyxz
[06:29] <nitish> Can I upgrade ubuntu 14.04 lts to 16.04 beta 2?
[06:29] <somsip> nitish: not until 16.04.1 apparently, about 2 months after normal release.
[06:30] <_28_ria> Ben64: yes, you are right, :), I usually do it (make a copy), but didn't didn't do it this time :), ironic.
[06:31] <nitish> somsip: I thought I can upgrate it after 21st april.
[06:31] <somsip> nitish: so did I, but one of the ops said about needing to wait until 16.04.1, though possibly with some way of forcing an immediate upgrade on 21st April. I'll research...
[06:32] <shibly> Where should i ask question about ubuntu?
[06:32] <somsip> shibly: here
[06:32] <nitish> somsip: oh yes, I had also read somewhere that there is some problem in upgrading 14.04 to 16.04
[06:32] <shibly> http://askubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[06:33] <somsip> shibly: here
[06:33] <Seveas> nitish: upgrades can always be forced. Whether that's advisable or not, I'll leave for you to decide :)
[06:33] <rud0lf> nitish: there was such note on xenial release notes but it's gone
[06:33] <shibly> Among those forums?
[06:33] <somsip> nitish: easily overridable with a '-d' flag apparently http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-from-a-lts-to-the-next
[06:33] <shibly> Which forum to use?
[06:33] <somsip> shibly: no, here
[06:33] <shibly> What's wrong with forums?
[06:33] <rud0lf> those are not instant :)
[06:33] <somsip> shibly: nothing. But you may get an immediate reply here. Then again, you might not
[06:34] <nitish> somsip: I prefer download a new iso & install it. But what is the best way to backup of current settings?
[06:34] <shibly> If i have to ask question on forums, then which one would i pick?
[06:34] <shibly> http://askubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[06:34] <Seveas> askubuntu isn't a forum, it's a Q&A site.
[06:35] <shibly> Yes,
[06:35] <somsip> nitish: current settings *may* not be compatible with 16.04 settings. So difficult to give a definitive answer. Crap answer I know
[06:35] <shibly> Which site should i ask question to?
[06:36] <somsip> shibly: askubuntu is possibly busier. Just ask your question
[06:37] <shibly> Isn't Debian enough/better than ubuntu?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> shibly: you are in #ubuntu here, so we recommend ubuntu
[06:38] <boa> finally got my lvm issue working
[06:38] <boa> 12TB of space now :D
[06:38] <somsip> shibly: offtopic here. This is the ubuntu support channel. Ask your support question or take yourself to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> boa: wanna share what was wrong and what fixxed it in short detail?
[06:39] <boa> ended up nuking the entire thing
[06:39] <boa> lsot aboout 4.5 tb of data :(
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> boa: specificly?
[06:40] <boa> well, i had an existing 6.8 tb lvm volume group set up over 3 different sized hdds which works fine for about 2 years
[06:40] <boa> went to extend it with a new 5tb drive i got today, and it was poreting the wrong size on the last drive
[06:40] <boa> so i used sudo lvchange -an to disbale lvm so i could rebmove the drive
[06:41] <boa> then the entire lvm group would refuse to mount. only way i could find to fix it was to completly nuke all data and just set up a new vlm group
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> boa: ok tnx
[06:42] <boa> lvm is just a pain in general. i think zfs is better
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> boa: you can use photorec for data recovery perhaps
[06:42] <boa> ya i could have if it was that important
[06:42] <boa> it was just media though
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:42] <boa> :D
[06:42] <boa> i see microcenter has the 1231v3 on for $209.
[06:42] <boa> not bad
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | boa
[06:43] <boa> heh
[06:43] <boa> sorry
[06:47] <shibly> I see almost all the subscribed threads are closed in http://ubuntuforums.org , why?
[06:49] <bumblehead> I made an application and would like to try packaging it for ubuntu touch --should I use snap?
[06:49] <somsip> !touch | bumblehead
[06:51] <bumblehead> none of the main menu items there relates to appliction development
[06:51] <bumblehead> its a generic link
[06:51] <bumblehead> i know that ubuntu touch does not use snap
[06:52] <bumblehead> what I'm really asking is --will touch use snap in the near future
[06:52] <bumblehead> should I expect a snap package to be usable on desktop and phone some day soon?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> !info snapcraft | bumblehead
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> bumblehead: read the artice on softpedia or omgubuntu
[06:53] <bumblehead> i will search for a link --do you have one?
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> bumblehead: yeah holdon
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> bumblehead: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages
[06:55] <bumblehead> interesting thanks
[06:56] <bumblehead> snaps, if it is as 'snap'-like and easy as it sounds and if it works on mobile and desktop
[06:56] <bumblehead> i think it will encourage much more development
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> bumblehead: it sure will, so keep an eye on 16.04 next week release, for now idle in #ubuntu+1
[06:57] <bumblehead> yeah it looks like a 'quiet release' but I think this is really quite an achievement
[06:58] <bumblehead> and a good milestone to reach before making unity 8 a first-class desktop offerent on pc
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | bumblehead
[06:58] <Redbeardt> CLI IRC client lol D:
[07:01] <Redbeardt> I have a little support question, actually.
[07:02] <Redbeardt> My wifi appears to work just fine until I try to play a game, like dota2, during which I experience intermittent lag spikes
[07:03] <Redbeardt> I've been running pings to google in the background for a while now and it appears quite happy until a game starts
[07:03] <Redbeardt> I've disabled power management, 802.11n, turned off co-exist with bluetooth
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: dota2 online over wifi?
[07:03] <Redbeardt> yeah
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: perhaps you should test this over cable also, compare the performance
[07:04] <Redbeardt> I've tried cable and it works just fine
[07:05] <Redbeardt> but I figured that the fact that the connection is generally so stable outside of the game indicated that there was something wrong with the 'kind' of traffic the game used
[07:05] <Redbeardt> I'm not really savvy enough with networking to know how
[07:05] <boa> wifi has higher latency than ethernet
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: high end graphics games is bit endurance for a computer, so it will bottleneck the weak points
[07:05] <Redbeardt> Sure, but I've playd games over wifi before at length with no issues whatsoever.
[07:06] <boa> dota isnt graphically deamnding
[07:06] <boa> your lag is probably from u sing wifi
[07:07] <boa> what is your ping on wifi comapred to ethernet
[07:07] <Redbeardt> Hell, I used to play FPS tethered to my phone, which shared its WiFi connection with my desktop PC, without a hitch.
[07:07] <Redbeardt> Ah I don't have that information
[07:07] <Redbeardt> Pings to google come back aroud 10ms though
[07:07] <Redbeardt> on wifi
[07:08] <boa> google pings arent really that useful in this discussion
[07:08] <Redbeardt> fair
[07:08] <boa> youd be more concerned with your ping on dota servers
[07:08] <Redbeardt> iirc the pings in dota on wifi were about 70ms
[07:08] <boa> damn. high
[07:08] <Redbeardt> you reckon?
[07:08] <boa> so im just confirming, no lag issues on cable?
[07:08] <Redbeardt> that's lower than when I was playing from Australia
[07:09] <Redbeardt> right
[07:09] <boa> so the issue is the wifi
[07:09] <boa> what is your wifi strength
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: you could try a tail -f /var/log/syslog while gaming and see how wifi reacts there
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: but i would strongly suggest gaming over cable instead
[07:10] <boa> is this a laptop?
[07:10] <Redbeardt> What's the easiest way to check wifi on CLI? :p
[07:10] <Redbeardt> Yeah
[07:10] <boa> so cable is prob not practical
[07:10] <Redbeardt> Cable gaming isn't really an option in my situation haha
[07:11] <boa> just curious. does your wifi have this lag issues on windows?
[07:11] <xangua> Redbeardt: are you using tlp?
[07:11] <Redbeardt> I wish I could say.. I installed Ubuntu as soon as I got the laptop. -_-
[07:11] <Redbeardt> It's my first Linux foray and I mnaged to stuff up my windows boot manager
[07:12] <Redbeardt> I gave up on fixing it after a few days so that's gone
[07:12] <Redbeardt> iwconfig shows -59 dBm
[07:12] <Redbeardt> I don't know what tlp is
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !info tlp | Redbeardt tnx 2 xangua
[07:13] <Redbeardt> Oh
[07:13] <Redbeardt> I'm not sure, but that hasn't come up in my digging about..
[07:13] <Redbeardt> tlp
[07:13] <Redbeardt> tlp is not installed
[07:16] <Redbeardt> Anyway I'll have a look at syslog in the game soon
[07:16] <Redbeardt> Although even looking at it now has a funny line
[07:16] <Redbeardt> Apr 14 15:12:01 saucy CRON[21029]: (root) CMD (   test -x /etc/cron.daily/popularity-contest && /etc/cron.daily/popularity-contest --crond)
[07:16] <Redbeardt> popularity-contest? D:
[07:18] <ToeSnacks> I'm getting a black screen for an indefinite period of time when restarting after installing 16.04 beta 2
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> ToeSnacks: #ubuntu+1 for xenial support please
[07:19] <ToeSnacks> Thanks
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> hateball: awake?
[07:21] <Redbeardt> Well I've found a dota2 server to ping now so .. perhaps that'll give me a little more insight
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: ok good luck, there is also #gamingonlinux if you want
[07:22] <Redbeardt> thank you sir
[07:24] <hateball> lotuspsychje: Yes, why?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> hateball: you know recommended driver for a Nvidia GTX980Ti, got a user in #ubuntu+1
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> hateball: black screen right after install
[07:26] <hateball> lotuspsychje: hybrid gpu?
[07:26] <hateball> oh gtx you say, then no
[07:27] <hateball> lotuspsychje: well 361 is in xenial, and that's the latest stable. otherwise one may add the nvidia ppa and try 364 I guess
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> hateball: ok tnx
[07:28] <hateball> lotuspsychje: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-364
[07:30] <TeddyMurray> are there binaries for php7 on ubuntu?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> TeddyMurray: 16.04 has php7
[07:30] <TeddyMurray> thanks
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> TeddyMurray: see #ubuntu+1
[07:35] <rustuptwist__> If I want to have the latest edubuntu install and I only have
[07:36] <rustuptwist__> The 14.04 (reg) Ubuntu Usb and the 12.04 edubuntu CD What is the best course of action?
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> rustuptwist__: 14.04 is a good choice in most cases
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> rustuptwist__: keep in mind edubuntu might fade out in the future, the project seeks a new volunteer
[07:38] <rustuptwist__> lotuspsychje: How near in the future?
[07:39] <g4143> What is the best way to install  Ubuntu 16.04? Via upgrade or clean install?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> rustuptwist__: http://news.softpedia.com/news/edubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus-will-not-be-a-long-term-support-lts-release-502003.shtml
[07:39] <rustuptwist__> I'm wondering about the upgrade process as I can either install ubuntu 14.04 and then apt-get to edubuntu or install edubuntu 12.04 and apt-get update. Just wondering which is a better call (less time consuming really)
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> g4143: for now, clean install until final release see #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <jay_> Hello is anyone available for support?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> !ask | jay_
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> rustuptwist__: if you wanna play safe, i would go for a vanilla ubuntu-desktop 14.04 and install edubuntu related packages on it..
[07:42] <jay_> I am running ubuntu on a Toshiba Chromebook 2. I tried to install hugegreenbugs port of the chromeos driver (xf86-input-cmt) instead of synaptics, and now my touchpad isn't working at all. Does anyone know how to get his driver to work?
[07:43] <g4143> otuspsychje: So the final release of 16.04 will be stable for an upgrade?
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> g4143: upgrades will be possible, but that doesnt mean nothing can happen right
[07:44] <rustuptwist__> lotuspsychje: so I can apt-get the 14.04 to convert it to edubuntu when I'm done correct?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> rustuptwist__: no, thats not what i mean...i mean just use ubuntu-desktop 14.04 and install edubuntu-like packages the manual way
[07:47] <rustuptwist__> lotuspsychje: oh. Ok. Now if the computer is running Win7 yet Ubuntu Usb doesn't give choice for Ubuntu alongside Win7 what does that mean?
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | rustuptwist__
[07:48] <vanch> what is the proper way to configure dhclient to know about predictable network intarface names in US14.04?
[07:53] <LOS_angeles_> I know this is probably off-topic but yeah.. anyone here on Concerta? I just took 4 36mg pills with no tolerance.. so it's 144mg. Was this a bad idea?
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !ot | LOS_angeles_
[07:54] <LOS_angeles_> fine lotuspsychje
[07:55] <boa> is there a bug with lvm and ubuntu
[07:56] <boa> every reboot i get an error. diskfilter writes are not supported
[08:26] <Simounet> Hi there, did anyone knows why the Thunderbird package in the officials repos is so outdated (38.6 against 45.0)?
[08:28] <ikonia> because it's not been updated
[08:28] <ikonia> the software versions on a release rarely get updated
[08:29] <ikonia> I think firefox has become a living exception that it's better maintained now and pretty current
[08:29] <ikonia> I don't believe thunderbird is quite at that level yet
[08:29] <xangua> I thought it was because Ubuntu adopted Thunderbird ESR?
[08:29] <ikonia> I don't know if thats the official line or not
[08:30] <ikonia> but if you look at ubuntu's package policy for pretty much every package - it never gets an update unless it's an exception
[08:31] <cynicallemon> nothing to stop you downloading thunderbird from mozilla and installing it
[08:31] <xangua> I see the latest Firefox ESR is 38.7
[08:32] <xangua> ! Info Thunderbird
[08:32] <xangua> !info Thunderbird
[08:33] <cynicallemon> even in xenial it's 38.6
[08:33] <xangua> Then it is the ESR channel
[08:34] <cynicallemon> email clients are slowly biting the dust
[08:38] <granden> Hi, I got a 12.04 LTS server running apache, mysql, and php. And I would need to upgrade to PHP 5.5 to get a new library to work in php that requires it. After some googleing it does seams pretty easy but then I found one blogpost saying if I do it and adds a new PPA, that would have the 5.5 branch of PHP. Then it would also upgrade apache to 2.4
[08:38] <granden> Is there a way to run apache 2.2 and php 5.5 ? Or do I need to upgrade apache to the new version?
[08:38] <somsip> granden: beware! The andrej PPA can have unwanted side effects, if you're referring to that PPA
[08:38] <granden> somsip: Yes I am.
[08:39] <somsip> granden: what do you need that requires 5.5?
[08:39] <granden> somsip: I am integrating my webapp with an online ticket booking system. And they have a library that requires PHP 5.5.0 or greater.
[08:40] <granden> For example they use curl_reset
[08:42] <somsip> granden: have you explored whether they have an older version of their library? Is reliance on 5.5 excessive?
[08:42] <granden> somsip: This is there first relase of there library.
[08:43] <granden> So no older versions. And I think they will be adding more stuff in it that will require that as well.
[08:43] <granden> But I'm not sure.
[08:43] <granden> And they are quite a large company, they are not going to listen to a small guy like me .)
[08:44] <ikonia> granden: most people Ubuntu/Debian/RHEL build later versions than 5.4 of php against apache 2.4
[08:44] <rda> do i need to turn my networking off and back on after starting gufw?
[08:44] <rda> and does gufw need to be run as root
[08:44] <somsip> granden: you may well be stuck then. If you need to use the ondrej PPA, just do a run through on a VM first so you know what will change, which will be your Apache confs for a start
[08:45] <granden> somsip: Ok, thanks for all the information.
[08:45] <ikonia> granden: your most realistic option is not to use a PPA (as who supports and maintains that) and upgrade your apache version to 2.4 with it
[08:45] <granden> ikonia: Yeah I kind of figured. :)
[08:45] <ikonia> granden: that way you're on a future proof stack
[08:45] <granden> Could I build PHP 5.5.x from source and use with apache2?
[08:45] <granden> 2.2*
[08:46] <ikonia> granden: that sounds like a VERY bad idea
[08:46] <somsip> granden: yes, but not at all future-proof
[08:46] <ikonia> !info php trusty
[08:46] <somsip> !info php5 precise
[08:46] <anonymous> hola
[08:46] <somsip> it's ooold
[08:46] <ikonia> granden: could you not look at upgrading to 16.04 ubuntu release in a few days when it comes out
[08:46] <ikonia> !info php5 trusty
[08:46] <somsip> ikonia: but php7 might briong him more problems. It's an option though
[08:46] <ikonia> or ubuntu 14.04 now
[08:46] <ikonia> somsip: very true
[08:46] <granden> We are going to upgrade to PHP7 during the summer.
[08:47] <ikonia> 14.04 has LTS years left in it, so coul dbe a better middle ground
[08:47] <granden> Had hoped to integrade this library earlier though.
[08:47] <ikonia> granden: ok - so if you moved to 14.04 - you'd be on php 5.5 and you can plan to move to 16.04 later with your php 7 migration
[08:47] <ikonia> granden: upgrade your boxes from 12.04 which is running out of support to 14.04 - and plan to move to 16.04 with your php 7 project
[08:47] <somsip> granden: I'd say, 1) install 12.04 on VM and ungrad using ondrej PPA, 2) consider upgrade to 14.04, 3) really future proof with 16.04 and iron out any new issues with PHP7. That's your 3 options maybe
[08:47] <somsip> *upgrade
[08:50] <granden> I love my boss. He was like "Oh ok. Then we will do the PHP7 upgrade earlier."
[08:50] <somsip> granden: sounds like a plan
[08:51] <granden> Had hope to intgerate their api during the day, thats out of the question and he was supposed to demo this to some clients when we ran into this :)
[08:51] <granden> Going from 12.04 to 16.04 or going to 14.04 in between?
[08:52] <somsip> granden: you on local, dedicated remote or cloud servers?
[08:53] <granden> cloud server/vps.
[08:53] <granden> Dunno if there is a different with those two?
[08:54] <somsip> granden: snapshot existing, spin up another and try the PPA. It might be simple and gives the boss something he can work with. Plan to build from scratch with 16.04 in a week or 2
[08:55] <granden> We asked our host two spin up an identical copy of our server to add a development servers about a year ago they could not do it.
[08:55] <somsip> granden: getting a bit off topic now, but that sounds pants and undeserving of your custom. EOT for me though as OT
[08:57] <granden> Yeah I know, but as you said. That is another topic. But I will figure it out. Guess I will go 12.04 to 14.04 and then 16.04. Does 16.04 have a timeline when it will be released?
[08:58] <somsip> granden: due on 21st april
[08:58] <granden> Ah ok. thanks!
[09:01] <s0000691206> EH SI
[09:01] <s0000691206> LE COSE
[09:08] <Simounet> ikonia: Thanks for these infos.
[09:09] <nareshnk> hi when i am installing sudo apt-get install php5-intl i am getting this issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15825765/
[09:09] <Simounet> Even if mail clients aren't updated very often, there is a huge hole between 38 and 45 even on the latest Ubuntu's version.
[09:14] <nareshnk> hi when i am installing sudo apt-get install php5-intl i am getting this issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15825765/
[09:19] <Clu3l355> Hi all :)
[09:20] <Simounet> nareshnk: apt-cache policy php5-intl
[09:20] <Simounet> nareshnk: What is the result of this command?
[09:21] <Clu3l355> I have this situation:I setup remote mysql from one container to allow remote connections coming from hostname "host.name", but the ip addresses changed for both the mysql container host and the "host.name" and I've updated both their dns settings to resolve the updated addresses accordingly, but now my issue is that mysql user table still lists th
[09:21] <Clu3l355> e same "host.name" for each user but wont connect remotely. Does mysql store the ip address for the hostname at that point in time when you add the user? or would i just have to rerun the query and update the remote host? I hope this makes sense
[09:21] <Clu3l355> thanks in advance
[09:23] <nareshnk> Clu3l355, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15825952/
[09:23] <nareshnk> Simounet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15825952/
[09:24] <nareshnk> Clu3l355, sorry by mistake send to you
[09:24] <Zaitzev> hey guys, how can I do a recursive integrity test of archives, and when an error occurs, it outputs the faulty archive name, making it easier for me to find the one in question?
[09:25] <Simounet> nareshnk: apt-cache policy php5
[09:25] <Simounet> I think that you used a PPA for one package that is a unresolved dependancy with php5-intl
[09:26] <Simounet> Sorry, misread the first paste.
[09:26] <Simounet> nareshnk: The problem is on php5-common .
[09:26] <Simounet> So: apt-cache policy php5-common
[09:27] <nareshnk> Simounet, http://pastebin.com/QszjC5hr
[09:28] <Simounet> nareshnk: You fixed your PHP version?
[09:28] <nareshnk> no
[09:28] <Simounet> Did you do an update recently?
[09:29] <Simounet>   Installed: 5.5.12+dfsg-2ubuntu4.6
[09:29] <Simounet>   Candidate: 5.6.4+dfsg-4ubuntu6.4
[09:29] <Simounet> You have a more recent version of PHP available.
[09:57] <emadhelmi> Hi dears , How can i install pygame on python in ubuntu?i have run sudo apt-get install python-pygame but there is no pygame ... what should i do?
[09:59] <Shammah> hi
[10:11] <gertS> emadhelmi You're aware pygame isn't an independent executable? just 'import pygame' in your open python2 enviroment.
[10:13] <gertS> See www.pygame.org/docs for more details
[10:13]  * gertS rolls eyes.
[10:33] <daveymac> hi guys anyone use the dell xps 13 dev edition?
[10:34] <hateball> daveymac: Unless you're taking a poll, why not ask your real question?
[10:34] <codepython777> for making my own PPA - do i have to go throught launchpad? Can't I host my own ?
[10:37] <kubblai> hi ok real question, if i buy the xps dev edtion and upgrade to the latest ubuntu will there be any driver issues?
[10:38] <yellow> hello all!
[10:38] <yellow> new to Ubuntu. want to get to server thats not listed do i type the same host name as before when i was in osx
[10:39] <kubblai> yellow are you trying to ssh to a server?
[10:39] <yellow> define ssh
[10:39] <ratrace> lol
[10:40] <kubblai> oh dear, when you say it's not listed what do you mean? and how are you attempting to connect to it ?
[10:40] <yellow> adding it of course
[10:41] <kubblai> yellow adding it to what ?
[10:41] <rud0lf> does ubuntu have notification, a kind of alarm that could remind me of something? (in a minute/hour way)
[10:41] <rud0lf> i can't recall english term to google
[10:42] <yellow> to the list of server names ...
[10:42] <codepython777> anyone running their own PPAs here?
[10:42] <kubblai> @rud0lf https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHWA_enGB680GB680&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ubuntu%20alarm%20clock
[10:42] <rud0lf> thank you kindly
[10:43] <ratrace> yellow: how abot you start from the beginning. what is it you're trying to do and what's the problem?
[10:43] <rda> rud0lf, alert?
[10:43] <rud0lf> right
[10:44] <mariana_> how can I set the bluetooth off permanently so it doesn't turn on when i turn on the radios manual switch back on in my laptop?
[10:44] <erkun> someone can help me please?
[10:44] <yellow> well i can't tell you that but by the fact that you don't know what im talking about means ive gone horribly wrong somewhere
[10:45] <trijntje> !Ask | erkun
[10:45] <erkun> thanks
[10:46] <Ben64> yellow: yes, you never explained yourself enough for people to help you
[10:46] <kubblai> yellow you say you're trying to add a server but to what? is it a file share? are you trying to remote control a server? are you trying to add a server service to your current machine?
[10:47] <yellow> I'm trying to add a server yes
[10:47] <Ben64> yellow: explain more
[10:48] <hetii> Hi
[10:48] <Redbeardt> I just found a bunch of PCIe Bus Errors in my dmesg and the device number refers to my wireless device. Perhaps the source of all my wireless problems? I have no idea how to resolve this though.
[10:48] <hetii> LANG=C sudo apt-get install squashfs-tools -> Setting up squashfs-tools (1:4.2+20130409-2.1) ...
[10:48] <hetii> LANG=C dpkg-query -p squashfs-tools
[10:48] <hetii> dpkg-query: package 'squashfs-tools' is not available
[10:48] <hetii> ??
[10:49] <yellow> I can't do that but I'm going to try a couple of things and if all fails I'll just go back to osx hex and retrace my steps. Thank you for your help!
[10:49] <ratrace> oh ffs, just another troll.....
[10:49] <hetii> LANG=C dpkg-query -L squashfs-tools
[10:49] <hetii> . /usr/bin/mksquashfs
[10:49] <hetii> etc..
[10:50] <trijntje> hetii: dont just paste a bunch of stuf, explain what you are trying to do and what goes wrong
[10:50] <kubblai> dont let it get to you ratrace you know you did the right thing to try to help someone :)
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Heyas all
[10:51] <hetii> trijntje,  I play with UCK, in file /usr/lib/uck/remaster-live-cd.sh on line 513 I have there a SQUASHFS_VERSION=`dpkg-query -p squashfs-tools | grep Version | cut -d ':' -f3 | cut -d '-' -f1`
[10:52] <hetii> so ht  dpkg-query try to get information about installed squashfs-tools
[10:52] <hetii> but even when it is installed it report that it`s not
[10:53] <TAFB> how can I copy files from one server to the other and preserve the modified date? scp -p only preserves the creation date :(
[10:53] <hetii> General as I see any packaged that I have installed in system is not visible by "dpkg-query -p"
[10:54] <trijntje> hetii: have you tried looking at the dpkg-query manual?
[10:55] <hetii> yes
[10:55] <trijntje> also at the entry for the -p flag?
[10:55] <hetii> -p, --print-avail Display details about package-name, as found in /var/lib/dpkg/available
[10:56] <hetii> but also I have there: Users of APT-based frontends should use apt-cache show package-name instead as the available file is only kept up-to-date when using dselect.
[10:58] <bobby__> is 50 degree is normal temperature for laptop ? i installed tlp, cpupower, thermald, cpufreq and many other and still not work to decrease my laptop temperature
[10:58] <bobby__> help me
[10:58] <trijntje> hetii: so I guess you should use apt-cache on ubuntu
[10:59] <bobby__> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4530/4570/545v]
[10:59] <bobby__> I use ubuntu 15.10
[10:59] <bobby__> anyone best solution to fix overheat laptop ??
[10:59] <bobby__> anyone know best solution to fix overheat laptop ??
[10:59] <hetii> ok any clue where the UCK source code is hosted to report bug ?
[11:02] <trijntje> hetii: ubuntu-bug packagename
[11:07] <egrain> how can i read the log from the last boot. journalctl -b -1 gives me "Failed to look up boot -1: No such boot ID in journal
[11:07] <egrain> "
[11:07] <xar-> bobby__: what kind of laptop?
[11:09] <ratrace> bobby__: 50 C is hardly overheating
[11:10] <bobby__> xar- : Toshiba satelite L510
[11:11] <xar-> bobby__: Core 2 Duo T6600?
[11:12] <bobby__> xar- : Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T6570 @ 2.10GHz × 2
[11:13] <bobby__> ratrace : so what should i do ?
[11:13] <xar-> that thing is a dinosaur, I wouldn't expect a lot of sophistication from an Intel chip that's 10 years old
[11:13] <ratrace> bobby__: 50C is not overheating
[11:14] <xar-> ratrace: not necessarily
[11:14] <xar-> bobby__: is it 50C under what kind of load? idle?
[11:14] <ratrace> those cpus reach 80-90C under full load. Hover around 40-50C on idle. if the laptop is a bit older and is dusty inside, it can easily have 50C on idle.
[11:15] <bobby__> xar-  : i use chromium ( browser )
[11:16] <xar-> I'm simply not familiar with such ancient hardware, so I'll defer to ratrace who seems to have these insights ;)
[11:16] <TAFB> how can I copy the creation date over top of the modified date for every file/folder and subfolders?
[11:16] <codepython777> anyone who maintains their own ppa here?
[11:17] <bobby__> ratrace : I think 50 degree is overheating when I compare it with windows my laptop just only 38-44 degrees
[11:18] <xar-> bobby__: you can't make apples-to-apples comparisons like that, the underlying kernels are fundamentally different
[11:19] <ratrace> bobby__: maybe you're confusing overheating with increased cpu activity (which implicitly causes increased temperature)
[11:23] <bobby__> on idle, my laptop 44 - 47 Degree
[11:24] <bobby__> Is it normal ?
[11:25] <ratrace> bobby__: probably yes
[11:26] <brainwash> with active cooling?
[11:27] <TAFB> my server always sets off thermal alarms if I play 4k videos on it :(
[11:27] <[0_0]> hi guys ubuntu is awesome ...  :)
[11:31] <erkun> I'm trying to clone with drbl network , but fails because I have connected a disk and is called " sda " , is there any way to change "sda " to " sdb" or " hda "
[11:31] <erkun> ?
[11:31] <Ben64> erkun: why does the name matter
[11:33] <bobby__> off.... thanks for all answer
[11:35] <ansyeblya> good day, could you possibly assist: is any of your companies enforcing policy of "no loud speaking" in openspaces(or not speaking at all, only slack ;) & meeting rooms) and issued any conventions ruling this? I could use an example
[11:36] <hateball> !ot | ansyeblya
[11:36] <gingitsune> Hey, I'm having trouble with supervisord. Where it reports back as not running after service supervisor start
[11:37] <gingitsune> After starting the deamon it works fine in all other regard except if i want to reload or stop the process i have to kill the process and cleanup the .sock file
[11:37] <gingitsune> Any idea why it might be doing that or how to fix i
[11:37] <gingitsune> it*
 Because the clone seeks hdd as " sdb" on the other computer and another computer disk mounts it as "sda "
[11:38] <gingitsune> Ubuntu 14.04
[11:44] <erkun> I'm trying to clone with drbl network , but fails because I have connected a disk and is called " sda " , is there any way to change "sda " to " sdb" or " hda "?
[11:44] <erkun> Because the clone seeks hdd as " sdb" on the other computer and another computer disk mounts it as "sda "
[11:45] <erkun> and I have no way to clone sda to sda
[11:46] <Ben64> erkun: you can change the mountpoint
[11:46] <Ben64> erkun: not sure this is even on topic here though, maybe find some help channel for whatever tool you're using
[11:48] <hendIBT> join Ubuntu b backtrack
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !backtrack | hendIBT
[11:48] <hendIBT> join ubuntu v backtrack
[11:59] <Petru7> could someone please explain me what can I do in order for my adobe flash to work properly ? I'm using ubuntu 15.10 and anytime I'm exiting a full screen video my GUI blocks..
[12:00] <Petru7> or just full screening ..
[12:00] <ratrace> Petru7: Firefox?
[12:00] <Petru7> no , chrome
[12:01] <hateball> Petru7: What GPU/driver?
[12:01] <ratrace> no idea. WorksForMe(tm).
[12:02] <Petru7> I don't know exactly to be honest... but it never happened when I was using 14.04 :(
[12:07] <Redbeardt> I have a question.. if I have a newer firmware version for a module in my /lib/firmware directory, why is it that when I run modinfo on that module, it doesn't list that firmware?
[12:21] <TroN-0074> hi
[12:22] <EriC^^> hi
[12:32] <wsirc______> Is their something in the preseeds to be done for ssh key connect with a qemu guest install? This is my first working preseed.cfg:
[12:32] <wsirc______> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15828694/
[12:32] <wsirc______> virt-install --connect=qemu:///system              --location=http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer\-i386              --initrd-inject=$HOME/Downloads/preseed.cfg             --extra-args="auto"              --name virtdebstable1 --ram=512              --disk=pool=default,size=5,format=qcow2,bus=virtio
[12:32] <wsirc______> tia
[12:33] <ikonia> wsirc______: not sure what that has to do with preseed
[12:33] <ikonia> what part is the process failing at ?
[12:35] <rda> wheres the faq on what ubuntu will be making with regards to new ubuntu releases post-MS deal
[12:35] <cfhowlett> too vague
[12:35] <somsip> !winubu | rda (you've misunderstood)
[12:35] <somsip> !ubuwin | rda (you've misunderstood)
[12:35] <Redbeardt> ehh is it bad to have a lot of interrupts? >_>
[12:36] <wsirc______> ikonia
[12:36] <wsirc______> ikonia
[12:36] <wsirc______> iconia: that fails at checking an ssh connection first and secondly at checking for an ip connection.
[12:36] <ikonia> wsirc______: where is ssh being triggerd from in terms of the process
[12:36] <ikonia> and think about it - ssh isn't going to work if it fails ip checks
[12:38] <wsirc______> got not best practice for ssh triggering with this. There are some commands or defaults in the d-i preseed system who deals with ssh, I guess.
[12:38] <rda> ah i wonder how that news got altered
[12:38] <wsirc______> and there is d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server
[12:39] <wsirc______> at least.
[12:39] <wsirc______> ikonia
[12:39] <wsirc______> ikonia:
[12:39] <wsirc______> iconia: that fails at checking an ssh connection first and secondly at checking for an ip connection.
[12:40] <wsirc______> excuse me, am wrestling with the web if..
[12:42] <wsirc______> got no internet connection in the host -preseed matter? yes, no?
[12:43] <wsirc______> s/host/guest
[12:53] <rambo3> I have problem with system crash when connecting offrand USB device
[12:53] <rambo3> is there  a way to not load drivers for device , or somehow step by step debug flow
[12:54] <rambo3> solve issue
[12:56] <stratum> Will there be "official" xenial images for the raspberry pi?
[12:57] <Ben64> doubt it
[12:57] <stratum> how come? the kernel issue?
[13:02] <billydaz> anyone here knows the channel for openvas
[13:02] <ikonia> billydaz: use the alis bot
[13:03] <ikonia> billydaz: or the channel #freenode for how to search for channels
[13:03] <billydaz> I am on weechat
[13:03] <ikonia> so ?
[13:03] <billydaz> first time using it
[13:03] <billydaz> 14:03:14   ikonia | so ?                                                                                                                   . alazare619
[13:03] <cfhowlett> !alis | billydaz please read
[13:04] <billydaz> thanks
[13:04] <cfhowlett> happy2help! billydaz
[13:06] <llwalahoop> I seem to have a talent messing up my laptop every now and then. There is a certain point to which everything is fine. What would be most effective ways to 'revert' to this state without going through the whole installation hassle? Disk image or something else?
[13:06] <ikonia> llwalahoop: something like clonezilla will allow you to make restore images simple and easy
[13:07] <llwalahoop> Thanks ikonia, sounds good. I'll check that out.
[13:10] <scalper> hey
[13:11] <scalper> i'm looking for the ubuntu wallpaper with the chinese buildings, it looks like a city, does anyone know it's name?
[13:11] <cfhowlett> scalper, I do.  wait 1
[13:11] <scalper> i think i have it
[13:11] <scalper> hehe
[13:12] <scalper> googled at ubuntu wallpapers chinese
[13:12] <EriC^^> scalper: the forbidden city?
[13:12] <scalper> yes
[13:12] <cfhowlett> yep
[13:12] <EriC^^> http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1204wallpapers-large_014.jpg
[13:12] <scalper> i used that wallpaper a lot at my work while i was programming
[13:12] <cfhowlett> that's the one.  Photographer did good but it's much cooler to see it in person
[13:14] <animato> hello :)
[13:15] <scalper> cfhowlett: do you mean that if you see the picture in person?
[13:15] <scalper> besides the photographer did a good job
[13:15] <cfhowlett> I was in Beijing for 4 years.  If you like that photo you should get the wallpapers from Ubuntu-kylin.  some excellent designs
[13:18] <scalper> cfhowlett: if you can point me to a good link, thanks, it shouldn't do bad for me to google at Ubuntu-kylin wallpapers i guess
[13:18] <dym> Hey - quick question: If i asked some guy to manage my server infrastructure (~25 public facing servers, virtual + non virtual, ubuntu based) what would be a sane amount for him to charge me including 24/7 "on demand" call and security patching?
[13:18] <inkbottle> Hi, for people using KDE: is you "kde application" "strain" 15.12 yet (or not)?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> scalper wait 1
[13:18] <cfhowlett> scalper, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kylin+wallpapers&searchon=names&suite=wily&section=all
[13:19] <ratrace> Why is Unity unable to remember last used window sizes of applications?
[13:19] <inkbottle> like the version of Okular: is it 15.12, or still lower?
[13:19] <uvx> hi i want to run my program from the pendrive , but it showing permission denied
[13:19] <cfhowlett> scalper, more precisely  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/ubuntukylin-wallpapers/ubuntukylin-wallpapers_15.10.1.tar.xz
[13:19] <inkbottle> or else do I have to go to some Kubuntu channel?
[13:20] <scalper> cfhowlett: i'll hit the link
[13:20] <yellow> so what sort of people make up this channel? Ubuntu employees?
[13:20] <yellow> ubuntu users ?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> yellow, no employees.  users
[13:20] <instigator> Hello. what does &> mean?
[13:20] <instigator> i know that > is used for redirection to a file
[13:21] <Myrtti> there's some Canonical employees floating around but they're not necessarily any better at giving help than the rest of us, with some exceptions :-P
[13:21] <uvx> hi i want to run my program from the pendrive , but it showing permission denied can anyone help me?
[13:22] <Gill> Hey guys I am trying to setup a TFTP server on Ubuntu but I keep gettings Transfer timed out. Can anyone please help me figure out what im doing wrong?
[13:22] <yellow> I see, anonymous users?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> yellow, if they choose to be.  why?
[13:22] <EriC^^> instigator: &> is for bash, it means redirect stdout and stderr to a file
[13:23] <hateball> inkbottle: there is #kubuntu if you are so inclined
[13:23] <yellow> well i mean i know why i use hex but why do you guys .. why not forum?
[13:23] <inkbottle> hateball: ok
[13:23] <hateball> inkbottle: anyhow, which release are you asking about?
[13:24] <DiamondSword> when I first click on the icon on the unity dock, the page opens, ok. but when I second click on the same icon, the page doesn't minimize, (come back). is this normal or do I miss something here ?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> yellow, sounds like you have no pressing technical issues.  please chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  thanks
[13:24] <yellow> oh no i do... right to business then
[13:25] <yellow> how do import you original hardware's keyboard commands into ubuntu ... in virtualbox
[13:25] <inkbottle> hateball: good question: how is Xenial compared to Willy? (what are the purposes of each?)
[13:25] <hateball> inkbottle: Just more polished. Xenial support is in #ubuntu+1 until April 21st :)
[13:26] <uvx> hi i want to run my program from the pendrive , but it showing permission denied can anyone help me?
[13:26] <ratrace> yellow: what are "original hardware's keyboard commands"?
[13:26] <scalper> cfhowlett: some good pictures, especially summer-palace.jpg, but i stick up with the forbidden city wallpaper, don't know why i feel attracted to it, i loved in my child years ninja movies, haha
[13:26] <hateball> uvx: your pendrive is likely mounted noexec
[13:26] <scalper> cfhowlett: i'm from the netherlands
[13:26] <gesszheese> I'm running out of idea. i removed/installed ssh yet its still not working. i run ssh roo@ip but nothing happens it just stand there
[13:26] <EriC^^> uvx: how big is the program? maybe just copy the executable to your home dir and run from there?
[13:26] <yellow> ok so i have a mac
[13:26] <gesszheese> ssh localhost seems to work though
[13:26] <cfhowlett> scalper, welcome to *buntu
[13:26] <yellow> and a keyboard .. duh
[13:26] <yellow> but when i go to type commands like
[13:26] <ratrace> yellow: and that relates to Ubuntu, how, duh?
[13:27] <yellow> command c it doensn't work
 i want to check with pendrive
[13:27] <EriC^^> uvx: type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here
[13:27] <ratrace> yellow: ask in #mac
[13:27] <inkbottle> hateball: you mean that xenial is just a tiny little step ahead of willy?
[13:28] <hateball> inkbottle: as far as Kubuntu goes, there's nothing major.
ok let me try
[13:28] <yellow> that channel is invite only
[13:28] <inkbottle> hateball: ok
[13:28] <ratrace> yellow: well, it has nothing to do with Ubuntu, so...
[13:28] <quall__> Hello everybody. Straight to the point: 1) is the ReleaseCandidate an actual build named "release candidate", or just today's daily build? I mean: should I download the one here http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ or wait?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> quall__, wait until release.  it's still cooking
[13:29] <yellow> well you're very helpful aren't you
[13:29] <quall__> 2) if i install a daily build/release candidate, then upgrade on the 21st, will it be exactly as I installed the stable one? Same uname, same repos, same everything?
[13:29] <EriC^^> quall__: yes
[13:29] <EriC^^> i think
[13:29] <gesszheese> anyone has any idea about ssh?
[13:30] <ratrace> gesszheese: like what?
[13:30] <EriC^^> gesszheese: try ssh -vvv
[13:30] <ratrace> yellow: you're asking questions about Mac, and this is Ubuntu support chan. What did you expect? :)
[13:31] <yellow> but my quesitons do even have anything to do with mac
[13:31] <yellow> or osx
[13:31] <quall__> thanks EriC^^... I'd like to be sure though :)
[13:31] <ratrace> yellow: then what is your Ubuntu question?
[13:31] <EriC^^> quall__: i understand :)
[13:31] <yellow> I'm completely in Ubuntu .. I just want to import my keyboard but it says i already did that
[13:32] <ratrace> yellow: import from where? and how does one "import a keyboard"?
[13:32] <ratrace> you mean keyboard layout? shortcuts? what?
[13:32] <gesszheese> I'm running out of idea. i removed/installed ssh yet its still not working. i run ssh roo@ip but nothing happens it just stand there. anyone familiar with ssh? or is there a better channel for this?
[13:33] <ratrace> gesszheese: sorry, didn't see your original post, what's the problem with it?
[13:33] <yellow> well you don't REALLY import your keyboard because its already there. I'm using it now .. but I want to import the commands ... or are the commands simply different ..
 still not working
[13:33] <EriC^^> uvx: that's just a paste
[13:33] <EriC^^> did it give you a link?
[13:33] <yellow> let me rephrase.. how do you copy paste
[13:34] <ratrace> yellow: Probably with Ctrl+C
[13:34] <yellow> wrong i tried that
yes giving link
[13:34] <ratrace> Some programs require Ctrl+Shift+C
[13:34] <gesszheese> ratrace: so ssh root@ip-address is not working
[13:34] <EriC^^> uvx: paste it here
[13:34] <edf3> what ratrace said
[13:34] <yellow> I'm also using a vm
[13:34] <ratrace> gesszheese: okay, please describe "not working"
http://termbin.com/xuwq
[13:34] <yellow> VirtualBox to be specific
[13:34] <gesszheese> ratrace: it stands there..it idles, it's not responsive
[13:35] <gesszheese> ratrace: i tried uninstall/install openssh, ssh localhost work
[13:35] <ratrace> gesszheese: please pastebin the output of the command when you run it with -v flag
[13:35] <EriC^^> uvx: what's the path to the program you're trying to run?
[13:35] <ratrace> yellow: So you're using VirtualBox on Ubuntu, and want to copy stuff from the guest OS running in VirtualBox?
 /media/uppi/labelread
[13:36] <yellow> no its the other way around I
[13:36] <yellow> I'm running ubuntu in vm
[13:36] <edf3> why not use 'mv filename destination'?
[13:36] <EriC^^> uvx: ok, type sudo umount /media/uppi/labelread
[13:36] <ratrace> yellow: there's a thing called "Shared Desktop", could be what you need, I don't know. Look it up.
[13:36] <ratrace> yellow: sorry, Shared Clipboard
[13:37] <EriC^^> uvx: as your user type "gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdc1"
[13:37] <gesszheese> ratrace: https://gist.github.com/6ewis/7422df6f437d59a731809f4bdec9d1e4
[13:37] <yellow> oh right I know exactly what needs to happen. Thanks ratrace
[13:37] <EriC^^> uvx: typo, type sudo umount /media/uppi
which one i have to try first or second
[13:37] <edf3> yellow: what's the permission's of the file's [what you're trying to copy, and then where you're trying to paste it to]?
[13:37] <ratrace> gesszheese: looks like your local pubkey file path is wrong
[13:38] <EriC^^> uvx: try sudo umount /media/UPPI , then gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdc1
[13:38] <EriC^^> uvx: run them as your user, not as root from a root shell #
[13:39] <gesszheese> ratrace: the local pubkey file/ please explain
[13:39] <ratrace> gesszheese: well, you're apparently using pubkey authentication which is not default, meaning you must've set it up yourself, but there are no keys in the expected places.
[13:39] <yellow> i haven't the slightest but in my regularly used os they'd copy paste just fine
[13:40] <yellow> where would i find such a answer?
[13:40] <ratrace> yellow: try googling for "VirtualBox Shared Clipboard Linux"
[13:40] <gesszheese> ratrace: i see. i have no idea how to fix it since i wasnt the one who set up the machine, im at work
[13:40] <quall__> Another question: my procedure until 2 years ago when installing ubuntu was creating 3 partitions: home, root and swap. Is this swap thing useful at all? I'm on a 8 GB ram machine
[13:41] <ratrace> gesszheese: not that easily. If you don't have the private key, there's no way to recreate it. You need to find the original private key from which the pubkey auth is set up for that machine.
[13:41] <edf3> quall__: not really with modern day computers
[13:41] <ratrace> quall__: yes, it's useful, there's always something in RAM currently unused taht can be expelled.
root@nano:/# sudo umount /media/UPPI/
[13:41] <uvx> umount: /media/UPPI: device is busy.
[13:41] <uvx>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[13:41] <uvx>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[13:41] <yellow> ok i will .. likely its a setting that im going to go mess with a minute..
[13:42] <ratrace> quall__: atm, my 16.04 has ~500MB in swap, for 8GB of RAM.
 this is its showing
[13:42]  * yellow waves
[13:42] <_pash> has anyone used systemtap?
[13:42] <quall__> Ok then... also, where does the swap go? before or afret root and home?
[13:43] <quall__> I reckon that's just my choice, but is any of the two better?
[13:43] <_pash> quall__: best place to put swap is at the end of the drive
[13:43] <_pash> imo
[13:43] <EriC^^> uvx: close all the terminals, then open a new one and type sudo umount /media/UPPI
[13:43] <hendIBT> funk
[13:44] <popey> quall__: yes, always have some swap
[13:44] <paz_> I've got a stable phone overlay PPA installed and I want to purge it using sudo ppa-purge. My .list file contains the following deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu wily main
[13:44] <paz_> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu wily main
[13:44] <paz_> .
[13:44] <popey> quall__: the amount of swap you need depends on your use case, but somewhere above zero and below your total ram count
[13:45] <paz_> I can't seem to get the ppa-name parameter correct
[13:45] <popey> ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay
[13:45] <popey> paz_: ^
[13:45] <popey> in your case
[13:45] <gesszheese> ratrace: i see thanks
[13:46] <scalper_> i have a large directory structure that's been build in ubuntu, my partner now needs to access it in windows, but the filenames and folders are too long to handle in windows, what can i advice her to do?
[13:46] <EriC^^> quall__: if you want hibernation you need swap slightly larger than your ram
[13:46] <scalper_> it are to much conflicts
[13:46] <scalper_> ext4 filesystem
[13:46] <gesszheese> ratrace: when can i read up on this. and what should i do once i find the private key, where should i even look for it
[13:46] <scalper_> there is now ntfs
[13:46] <EriC^^> like 6.1G for 6G ram
[13:47] <paz_> Thanks popey
[13:47] <EriC^^> scalper_: ##windows might know better
[13:47] <scalper_> EriC^^: yes
[13:47] <EriC^^> you could always rename them in ubuntu if it doesn't matter much
[13:47] <scalper_> good advice
[13:47] <scalper_> EriC^^: like i said to much conflicts
[13:47] <ratrace> gesszheese: well, for starters, who set up the authentication to that machine? you need to ask that person to set up your pubkey, they will explain what to do. in short, you run ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 2048   to create the private-public pair, and give the admin your public part. the private one remains in your home dir's .ssh dir
[13:48] <DiamondSword> when I first click on the icon on the unity dock, the page opens, ok. but when I second click on the same icon, the page doesn't minimize, (come back). is this normal or do I miss something here ?
[13:48] <ratrace> gesszheese: well, the _both_ remain, I'm just saying that the .pub one you can give out, not the private one
[13:48] <EriC^^> DiamondSword: you need to enable click to minimize in compiz
[13:49] <EriC^^> DiamondSword: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager , then open it and unity > launcher > click to minimize
[14:01] <DiamondSword> EriC^^, thanks!!
[14:02] <EriC^^> DiamondSword: no problem!
[14:05] <jayesh> heii
[14:06] <jayesh> ANY 1
[14:06] <EriC^^> hi
[14:06] <jayesh> whatsup bro
[14:07] <timvisher> i'm running ubunut 14.04 and gnome-terminal and the process running in gnome-terminal doesn't seem to be getting Alt-Enter or Ctrl-Space keychords.
[14:08] <timvisher> someone said something in ubuntu might be trapping them? possibly ibus?
[14:09] <timvisher> it gets other keychords like C-k, C-n, M-f etc. just not those specific ones.
[14:09] <rory> I don't know the answer but I love the word "keychords"
[14:09] <rory> thanks.
[14:10] <timvisher> i guess someone got something out of that interaction then. ;P
[14:10] <robotdevil1> what is the best way for me to remote into a win7 box and moves some files around ??
[14:11] <timvisher> robotdevil1: ssh?
[14:11] <jayesh> ggggg
[14:11] <jayesh> ssh
[14:11] <jayesh> telnet
[14:11] <scam> telnet over ssh ?
[14:11] <robotdevil1> dont really want to have to move hgue amounts of files around via cli
[14:12] <timvisher> robotdevil1: you'd _rather_ use the GUI?
[14:13] <timvisher> get a remote desktop client. maybe http://www.rdesktop.org/
[14:13] <timvisher> gui for file management is utter torture :)
[14:13] <CajunBot> exit
[14:15] <Gill> hey guys anyone here good with TFTP? This issue is driving me up the wall
[14:15] <robotdevil1> timvisher: so what I have to have a ssh server on the 7 box?
[14:15] <carabia> This default sound-control -gui thing doesn't allow to adjust levels per-stream, no?
[14:16] <carabia> Only pavucontrol does?
[14:16] <timvisher> robotdevil1: unless windows ships with ssh at this point (i have no idea) but that shouldn't be too difficult to set up
[14:16] <timvisher> otherwise just use the remote desktop system
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[14:16] <robotdevil1> timvisher: is rdp and ssh telnet my only options
[14:17] <timvisher> you could also mount the disks remotely and do the file management locally
[14:17] <timvisher> i think samba support is first class at this point
[14:17] <carabia> Also, is there a way to replace the default volumecontrol (gnome's i believe) with pavucontrol?
[14:17] <timvisher> that wasn't that clear. you could use file sharing to mount the disks locally and then move things around on your local box.
[14:17] <carabia> as in, "unity integration"
[14:18] <bobby__> hello
[14:18] <robotdevil1> timvisher: I get cha
[14:19] <robotdevil1> does tab complete work under ssh
[14:19] <teward> robotdevil1: it should, yes
[14:19] <robotdevil1> goofy windows directories in why I dont wanna use cli
[14:19] <carabia> depends on the shell...
[14:22] <robotdevil1> probably come with bash or what?
[14:24] <hendIBT> baktrack under
[14:25] <designbybeck> I know there are things like Python built into Ubuntu, but are there any recommended Ubuntu Distros that are geared towards programming in general?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> designbybeck: you can set any flavor to a programming box, installing the right tools
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> designbybeck: perhaps think what kind of packages you will be needing, to do the work you wanan do?
[14:28] <ikonia> do321: ubuntu is fine
[14:28] <ikonia> oops
[14:28] <ikonia> designbybeck: ubuntu is fine
[14:33] <emadhelmi> hi dears
[14:33] <emadhelmi> i want to install pygame on my python in ubuntu
[14:33] <emadhelmi> but when i try apt-get install python-pygame there was no such package
[14:34] <emadhelmi> How can i install it?
[14:34] <kspencer> emadhelmi: try for pip ?
[14:34] <emadhelmi> kspencer, no i didnt try with pip
[14:35] <kspencer> apt-get install python-pip if you don't have that either
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> emadhelmi: wich ubuntu version?
[14:35] <ikonia> emadhelmi: what version of ubuntu
[14:35] <emadhelmi> lotuspsychje, 14.04 LTS
[14:35] <ikonia> there is a package for it
[14:35] <ikonia> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/pygame
[14:35] <emadhelmi> ikonia, 14.04 LTS
[14:35] <ikonia> it's just called pygame
[14:37] <emadhelmi> ikonia, i try apt-get install pygame but i get:
[14:37] <emadhelmi> ikonia, E: Unable to locate package pygame
[14:37] <ikonia> !info pygame
[14:37] <ikonia> !info pygame trusty
[14:37] <ikonia> odd
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> could it be python-pyglet ?
[14:37] <ikonia> !info python-pygame trusty
[14:37] <ikonia> there is it
[14:38] <Squarism> Hey. Anyone know if theres a "side by side" graphical directory diff for ubuntu/linux?
[14:38] <ikonia> python-pygame is the package name, you need the universe repo enabled
[14:38] <ikonia> Squarism: gdiff
[14:38] <emadhelmi> ikonia, so what should i do?
[14:38] <ikonia> emadhelmi: enable the universe repo in software sources and install python-pygame
[14:39] <Artemis3> Squarism, try this one: http://meldmerge.org/
[14:40] <fission6> how do i check if a domain is being used for sending and receiving email, or at least configured to
[14:42] <ikonia> fission6: in what respect ?
[14:43] <fission6> check to see if it has a reasonable dns path etc i guess
[14:43] <Osirus126> im in need of some help regarding installing a package called kodi-rbp on my ubuntu mate for raspberry pi 3 desktop
[14:43] <ikonia> reasonable dns path ?
[14:43] <ikonia> what
[14:43] <Osirus126> i had installed it the other day under ubuntu mate 16.04, but i cant seem to find it now.. and a search on google only turns up arch linux repositories
[14:43] <ikonia> Osirus126: 16.04 discussion is in the channel #ubuntu+1
[14:44] <rud0lf> Osirus126: i've found it as first link in google
[14:47]  * nick5555 
[14:47] <daniel3213125> hey guys how can I install Need for Speed Pro Street in Wine?
[14:47] <ux2> daniel3213125:  hey
[14:47] <ux2> daniel3213125:  well you need to use the install ex.e or use an app called PlayonLinux
[14:47] <ux2> it is in the software center
[14:48] <jax> can I extend my windows partition with gparted without losing ubuntu data? (size permitting, obviously)
[14:48] <Osirus126> rud0lf, can you help me install it under ubuntu mate?
[14:48] <rud0lf> i'm not good at it
[14:49] <Osirus126> rud0lf, i have also searched it in google but only see it under arch linux repos
[14:49] <nick5555> Jax, I guess it depends. You should image first
[14:49] <daniel3213125> ux2, thanks
[14:50] <daniel3213125> ux2, thanks
[14:50] <jax> nick5555, or I should rephrase... is it safe to resize an ubuntu ext4 partition from either side?
[14:51] <ljosberinn> hi all! i created an upstart job which should run some script... the problem is that script is always started twice but i just cannot figure out why...
[14:51] <ljosberinn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15831318/
[14:52] <nick5555> As I said, image first just  in case there is damage. You should be able to resize in allocated space and not lose data.
[14:52] <nick5555> I would look at your partition layout. How many primary? gpt or mbr?
[14:53] <robotdevil1> timvisher: samba isnt secured right and would need to do it over ssh or something right?
[14:53] <erkun-> I'm trying to clone with drbl network , but fails because I have connected a disk and is called " sda " , is there any way to change "sda " to " sdb" or " hda "?
[14:53] <erkun-> Because the clone seeks hdd as " sdb" on the other computer and another computer disk mounts it as "sda "
[14:54] <ikonia> erkun-: drbd is a block level copy over the network
[14:55] <ikonia> erkun-: it will clone the disk block by block, what does the name matter
[14:59] <srg2> Spam on the Ubuntu Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gmail at the top.
[14:59] <srg2> Notifying so someone can edit it.
[15:00] <ironika> is it just me or do all download links not work on https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ ?
[15:00] <designbybeck> ok thank you lotuspsychje and ikonia .. that is what I figured!
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> srg2: report in #ubuntu-ops plz
[15:02] <Myrtti> lotuspsychje: there's very little the #ubuntu-ops can do that you can't
[15:02] <do321> PING
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> Myrtti: meaning you dont wanna know about these next time?
[15:04] <srg2> I'm runing Xubuntu. I'm using gmail with Firefox. It seems the new mail notification feature isn't working. I have mail.google.com set to allow notifications in my ff preferences. Is there some libnotify package or something I need to install too?
[15:06] <Myrtti> lotuspsychje: not necessarily, but just thought that it might be worth noting that if you have Launchpad account and can log into the wiki, you can revert the change yourself
[15:07] <monifa72> Hi. I am logged in as user a. But I want to run a program as user b. So I try to run: sudo -u b gedit
[15:07] <monifa72> that works fine
[15:08] <monifa72> however It does not work with wine.
[15:08] <monifa72> If I try it with wine i get: wine: '/home/a' is not owned by you, refusing to create a configuration directory there
[15:09] <srg2> Wine probably does it's own user switching or something like that.
[15:09] <monifa72> it seems that i have to use some environment command. how could that be done?
[15:09] <srg2> monifa72: Try running `sudo -u otheruser bash` to get a shell as the other user, then run wine.
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> Myrtti: i dont feel like hunting and editing wiki's myself
[15:09] <monifa72> srg2, the same steps do work with debian 8
[15:09] <monifa72> but fail with ubuntu 16.04
[15:09] <srg2> hm, weird
[15:10] <monifa72> the exact same steps by the waay
[15:11] <monifa72> so the question seems how to export the wine prefix that wine is using the directory of user b instead of user a?
[15:15] <Bubble_Gum> What do I do with .deb files?
[15:15] <nick5555> Bubble Gum, you mean how to install?
[15:16] <Bubble_Gum> Well yes
[15:16] <nick5555> well you can use gdebi
[15:16] <Bubble_Gum> I'm confused on the proper wording, sorry
[15:16] <nacc> Bubble_Gum: rather than ask that, maybe tell us what you're trying to do?
[15:17] <nacc> Bubble_Gum: my concern with that question is if you don't know already, you probably shouldn't be doing anything with them :)
[15:17] <Bubble_Gum> nacc I'm trying to install a .deb that's throwing an error
[15:17] <sune1337> Hi. Is Ubuntu using the "cryptdevice" init-argument, or is it only using crypttab? (In regards of mounting an encrypted root-device during boot)
[15:17] <Bubble_Gum> That's cute nac lol
[15:17] <Bubble_Gum> If you can't answer then perhaps you shouldn't be here
[15:17] <nacc> Bubble_Gum: "what do I do with" and "How do I install" are different questions
[15:17] <Bubble_Gum> Hows that for return irritation.. I'd sooner comb google and so would several others.. perhaps you've had a bad day.. that is NOT how you treat people
[15:17] <Bubble_Gum> peace..
[15:18] <nacc> Bubble_Gum: please paste the output?
[15:18] <Myrtti> nacc: you did better than I would have
[15:19] <nacc> Myrtti: I really didn't mean offense! the original question seemed like "what's a .deb file, what do i do with it?" which to me is a complicated question :)
[15:19] <Myrtti> nacc: I'm low on patience at the moment so my primary urge was to reply with "slice it and serve it with nice remoulade"
[15:19] <Myrtti> I don't think that would've gotten any better reception
[15:20] <nacc> Myrtti: heh :)
[15:29] <monifa72> hello. I try to run wine like this: sudo -u nonet -H WINEPREFIX=/home/a/.wine wine notepad
[15:30] <monifa72> but i get the error: sudo: sorry, you are not allowed to set the following environment variables: WINEPREFIX
[15:30] <monifa72> how to fix that?
[15:30] <thenetimp> I successfully installed Ubuntu on my Intel NUC using 1 monitor at a friends house.  I have an old TV with HDMI which I want to use here @ home.  Problem is when I start the computer X windows fails to load properly and I get a blank screen.  I know the machine is up because I can ssh into it.
[15:31] <thenetimp> thoughts on how to force xwindows to display
[15:32]  * thenetimp here's crickets....
[15:32] <thenetimp> oops
[15:32] <thenetimp> hears... LOL
[15:37] <ljosberinn> hi all! i created an upstart job which should run some script... the problem is that script is always started twice but i just cannot figure out why...
[15:37] <ljosberinn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15831318/
[15:39] <sruli> how can i configure the auto-mount for usb drives should mount with noexec?
[16:04] <fabrigm> hi
[16:06] <reza_sam96> hi..i have problem...my memory is 8gig but 5gg of it is used but i dont work with any program now :((..why?
[16:08] <Thoss> reza_sam96: are you looking in System Monitor?
 with    top    in command  line
[16:09] <Hesulan> reza_sam96: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[16:09] <nacc> reza_sam96: can you pastebin `cat /proc/meminfo` ?
[16:09] <littlebearz__> reza_sam96, do free -m
 ok
[16:10] <ma_ma> hi..any one has idea about starsports.com?
[16:10] <reza_sam96> <littlebearz wait
[16:10] <ma_ma> iam trying watch the videos in browser
[16:10] <ma_ma> but videos are not playing
[16:10] <reza_sam96> <littlebearz_ bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[16:10] <ma_ma> but i able to see youtube videos
[16:10] <littlebearz__> reza_sam96, free -m
[16:10] <ma_ma> anyone can help me?
[16:11] <littlebearz__> reza_sam96, the do means perform lol, not actually copy and paste
[16:11] <littlebearz__> ma_ma, chromium or google chrome or another  browser?
 oh  ..... how free it?
[16:11] <littlebearz__> reza_sam96, in terminal, type 'free -m' without the '
[16:12] <reza_sam96> nacc : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15833324/
[16:12] <ma_ma> littlebearz : chrome and firefox
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15833362/
[16:13] <nacc> reza_sam96: so what is your concern?
[16:13] <reza_sam96> ma_ma, install adobe flash plugin
[16:13] <littlebearz__> reza_sam96, you're memory looks good, no issue, what's the problem?
[16:13] <ma_ma> ya i did
 : nacc> why used 4gg of it? :o
[16:14] <nacc> reza_sam96: caches, file-backed memroy, etc
[16:14] <ma_ma> reza : still i am not able to play
[16:14] <nacc> reza_sam96: you want your memory to be 100% in use
[16:14] <littlebearz__> reza_sam96, linux tends to cache stuff so you get stuff faster, if you don't want to use swap you can disable it
[16:14] <reza_sam96> littlebearz__> i disable it but afrer restart going to on
[16:14] <carabia> so i'll ask again. Is there any reasonable hack to replace the gnome-volume-control with pavucontrol in unity?
the linux os how use memory?
[16:15] <littlebearz__> reza_sam96, put it into cronjob on @reboot, but swap is highly recommended so your system don't crash when you needed the extra memory
the linux os how does it use memory?
[16:15] <littlebearz__> Hesulan> reza_sam96: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
 hummm . so you say my memory is good  yeah?
[16:16] <carabia> Linux caches things into memory and frees that allocated space on-demand. Swap is mostly unnecessary in _modern_ systems
[16:16] <nacc> reza_sam96: that's not really ontopic for this channel -- i think you can google around for it
 hum tnx
[16:16] <koboi> hallo
[16:16] <ma_ma> reza_sam96, iam able to play some website videos but not in some sites
[16:16] <A1004-Guest> relax nacc
[16:17] <littlebearz__> ma_ma, that depends on the website, if it's flash then install flash plugin, if it's webm or vp9 i think chrome and firefox just plays it natively without plugins
[16:17] <carabia> 8 GB and upwards. Swap becomes really unnecessary. If you're going to start swapping, something's already broken...
[16:17] <A1004-Guest> nacho if someone knows the answer they can answer
 so , do u install adob flash plugin?  if u install it then it is work good
[16:18] <ma_ma> reza_sam96,yes i did ,i think you people aware of sports website ,starsports.com ,only in that only i was not able to watch
[16:18] <koboi> ada orang indonesia di sini?
[16:18] <Myrtti> !id | koboi
[16:19] <nacc> A1004-Guest: i'm well aware, this is an Ubuntu support channel, though and asking how Linux manages memory is not a support question...
[16:19] <carabia> you can install adobe's flash, chrome's flash (pepperflash), or you can install _chrome_ that has built-in support.
[16:19] <carabia> i.e. not chromium.
[16:19] <A1004-Guest> nacho if someone can help - let them help! sheesh
[16:22] <quall_> Hello, I'm using an ubuntu computer on which I'm not a sudoer. Is there any way that I can create a startup USB stick from here? The startup disk utility requires root privileges
[16:22] <quall_> (I need the stick for another computer)
[16:23] <sruli> does anyone know if ecryptfs uses aes-128 or aes-256?
[16:24] <k1l> quall_: i am not aware of a method that works without root privileges.
[16:27] <quall_> k1l: thank you :/
[16:33] <greggg> hello - any hw experts? i need a confirmaiton that GPu is at fault and noth motherboard or CPU
[16:33] <greggg> this is BIOS boot menu (letter get messed up and moved arround): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2uTW36AgbQzOWNWN3hDa1V4YUE/view?usp=sharing
[16:33] <greggg> and this is Kubuntu trying to boot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2uTW36AgbQzZlUxR2NKMlpfV2c/view?usp=sharing
[16:34] <greggg> file are about 1 Mb each it says
[16:34] <greggg> this is how it looks in windows: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2320435
[16:38] <greggg> anyone?!
[16:39] <dantte> hu?
[16:39] <Pici> greggg: ##hardware may be a better place to ask
[16:40] <greggg> thnx for the advice i will try there.
[16:41] <anticitizenprime> ignore * crap
[16:41] <anticitizenprime> always forget the slash...
[16:42] <Build3r> Hez
[16:50] <Someguy123> can someone tell me why it's so hard to find a signature or even a hash for the server ISO?
[16:50] <k1l> !md5sum
[16:50] <k1l> !hashes
[16:51] <Someguy123> k1l: my complaint is that this isn't anywhere on the download page, or easily findable on the ubuntu site
[16:51] <k1l> Someguy123: this http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.4/MD5SUMS
[16:51] <k1l> hmm
[16:51] <Someguy123> I shouldn't have to google it, or ask people
[16:51] <Someguy123> it should be a link on that page
[16:52] <nacc> Someguy123: on what page?
[16:52] <Someguy123> nacc: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/
[16:52] <Someguy123> that page = no links for hashes, the actual download button page, no links for the hashes, alternative downloads? nope.
[16:53] <hggdh> interesting. We used to have hashes pointed out
[16:54] <hggdh> (I mean easily visible)
[16:55] <Someguy123> hggdh: exactly. and so do most current linux distros
[16:55] <Someguy123> but not ubuntu
[16:55] <Someguy123> it irritates me that ubuntu.com doesn't use SSL, nor is it easy to find the hashes
[16:57] <sonu> hi i am have a a serios issue coming here : http://dev1.myconversionbrain.com/sourcemake/users/login
[16:57] <sonu> Warning (2): session_start(): open(/var/lib/php5/sess_ag3ui9fmko48s2legc2f39rbe3, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) [CORE/src/Network/Session.php, line 324]
[16:57] <Pici> sonu: And what does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[16:58] <k1l> Someguy123: you can file a bug against the website on launchpad.net
[16:58] <ioria> 'the Release Notes'  points to http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.4/  where you can find the MD5SUM, but agree it's not so visible
[16:59] <sonu> Pici, yes my server have ubuntu
[17:00] <nacc> sonu: what version of ubuntu? and what is that site?
[17:00] <sonu> ubuntu 14
[17:00] <nacc> sonu: 14.04?
[17:00] <sonu> nacc, yes\
[17:00] <Pici> sonu: and what is that error coming from? what is that url you posted?
[17:01] <sonu> Warning (2): session_start(): open(/var/lib/php5/sess_ag3ui9fmko48s2legc2f39rbe3, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) [CORE/src/Network/Session.php, line 324]
[17:01] <wawrek> hello, I am looking for LibreOffice libraries for Polish grammar, orthography and spell check in general.
[17:01] <wawrek> it does not seem to come wiht LibreOffice by default
[17:01] <nacc> sonu: the question isn't what is the error, but where is it coming from? when you login to that URL?
[17:02] <sonu> yes.. when i trying to login
[17:02] <sonu> nacc, ^^
[17:02] <ruof> Any ETA on 16.04 release candidate?
[17:03] <wawrek> any tips, please?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> next thurs
[17:03] <nacc> sonu: that's an error on the server running, afaict, are you running that site?
[17:03] <nacc> BluesKaj: isn't that the final release?
[17:03] <ash_workz> is there a good channel to discuss skarnet's s6 process supervisor?
[17:03] <sonu> nacc, yes this site is on live mode
[17:04] <BluesKaj> nacc, it's the first official release , LTS has more point releases afterwards as they are developed
[17:05] <teward> !ubuntu+1 | ruof
[17:06] <gateway_> wawrek, http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/languagetool
[17:06] <ash_workz> or maybe even the Alpine distro?
[17:07] <nacc> BluesKaj: right, i think ruof was asking about RC of 16.04, that's why i asked?
[17:07] <sonu> nacc, is there any solution ?
[17:07] <wawrek> gateway_: thanks, so I guess it will do also the spell check for other languages, mines are polish, french and english
[17:07] <nacc> BluesKaj: there should be an RC today sometime, aiui
[17:07] <wawrek> I mean  it's useful
[17:08] <nacc> sonu: is that site provided by an ubuntu package? where did you get the source for it?
[17:08] <gateway_> wawrek,  or aspell for the lanuage you need from the package manager
[17:08] <nacc> sonu: it seems like a permissions problem for whatever is executing the php code relative to /var/lib/php5/
[17:08] <nerthus> hi @ all
[17:09] <wawrek> gateway_: will checck them both
[17:09] <nerthus> i'm new here. anyone still using irc in terminal?
[17:10] <wawrek> nerthus: yes I use irssi
[17:10] <wawrek> I recommend
[17:11] <Pici> nerthus: irssi and weechat are the popular choices these days
[17:11] <PSUser2> can someone help me with this one?
[17:11] <PSUser2> (gadmin-proftpd:2826): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/alex/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[17:11] <PSUser2> Cant allocate enough ram, exiting
[17:11] <PSUser2> i just need a simple gui ftp server
[17:11] <PSUser2> and linux makes it so much harder for the noobs
[17:11] <PSUser2> i was using sudo bash
[17:13] <BluesKaj> nacc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[17:14] <nacc> BluesKaj: ack, i think we were talking past each other is all, the original question was just when the RC will be available (not when final will be)
[17:14] <BluesKaj> there's no RC anymore
[17:15] <nacc> then it probably shoulnd't be on the schedule :)
[17:15] <BluesKaj> there are daily builds that you can download and install from media, nacc
[17:15] <nacc> BluesKaj: yes, i know
[17:17] <Zomber1> help
[17:17] <Zomber1> help
[17:21] <Kami> Hi :)
[17:21] <Kami> what are you hosting?
[17:29] <pulsar12> i am struggling with pppd daemon which is trying to resolve name "ppp0" everytime a user connects. anyone has an idea why?
[17:46] <freeone3000> I need a VPN client that does L2TP-PSK on 14.04-LTS. Any client will do, including PPA. Any suggestions?
[17:51] <meycos> help
[17:56] <biosboy4> Hey guys, is it possible to rsync an already rsync'ed backup directory?
[17:56] <biosboy4> if everything is incremental
[17:56] <nacc> biosboy4: do you mean rsync it somewhere else?
[17:57] <biosboy4> does that mean I would have to restore "delta" files twice?
[17:57] <biosboy4> yes
[17:57] <thechanceg> delta files?
[17:57] <biosboy4> doesn't rsync keep a sort of "chhangelog" for incremental backups?
[17:58] <thechanceg> rsync -avz source destination
[17:58] <thechanceg> only update files in destination if they differ from source
[17:58] <nacc> biosboy4: it uses filelists, checksums (iirc) to figure out what has changed
[17:59] <biosboy4> yes, but doesn't it use a change-log for each version to be restored/married to the original backup?
[18:00] <thechanceg> i do not believe so. i think nacc is right
[18:00] <james_> Hi
[18:00] <biosboy4> that's how it stores tons of backups in such a small amount of space if I understand it correctly.
[18:00] <thechanceg> rsync doesn't do compression
[18:00] <thechanceg> i mean it does during transfer
[18:01] <thechanceg> but it doesn't "store a ton of backups in a small space".
[18:01] <Guest83104> Is there a command line to turn off the weird feature when a youtube video goes into full screen?
[18:02] <Guest83104> Sorry still a n00b
[18:02] <davido_> which weird feature?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> Guest83104, try the F key
[18:03] <Guest83104> when I go into full screen it fades into it and the hardware on this laptop does not agree with that.
[18:03] <biosboy4> From my understanding, what sets rsync apart from cp arguments is the real incremental backups. Meaning it only transfers the changes, and it can store "versions" (like VEEAM) and restore them later. This makes it so that 100 backups can fit into the space of 1 full backup and many, tiny versions.
[18:03] <larryprice> freeone3000, i used to use this to do l2tp vpn and it worked pretty well: https://launchpad.net/l2tp-ipsec-vpn
[18:03] <thechanceg> your understanding is wrong. you did describe git pretty well though
[18:04] <nacc> biosboy4: maybe i'm missing something, what do you mean by version? rsync doesn't have versions by default (aiui)?
[18:04] <nacc> biosboy4: i really don't know for sure, this is just my understanding,t hough
[18:04] <biosboy4> it has the changelog for each incremental backup
[18:05] <biosboy4> I don't know for sure either
[18:05] <nacc> biosboy4: where do you see that or documented that is the case?
[18:05] <nacc> biosboy4: afaict, there is no such thing as a changelog in rsync (looking through the manpage, i'd think that would be called out)
[18:05] <biosboy4> I do not remember, I have been through hundreds of documents while working on this lol
[18:05] <biosboy4> might of got some info jumbled
[18:06] <biosboy4> so of I rsync a virtual hard disk file, how does rsync respond to the changes to the file?
[18:08] <nacc> biosboy4: i believe it does a block-by-block checksum on the target so the sender can know what to send (to determine the relative changes)
[18:08] <biosboy4> oh ok, good
[18:08] <biosboy4> thanks guys, love the OS community
[18:08] <nacc> biosboy4: i think it also determines *that* a file has changed by size changes or mtime
[18:09] <nacc> biosboy4: but you'd need to check the manpage on that
[18:09] <biosboy4> good deal, thank you guys
[18:09] <biosboy4> ok
[18:22] <lee_G750jm> has anyone heard about Microsoft built its on Linux based on Centos
[18:23] <xangua> !ot | lee_G750jm
[18:29] <theluiso> hola
[18:30] <theluiso> hi
[18:30] <Joachim> hello
[18:30] <Guest17938> Anyone got stuck on "connecting" while trying to run wow through wine ?
[18:30] <Guest17938> I have tried everything, all day
[18:31] <Guest17938> I'll give five bucks through paypal to the one who solves my issue :p
[18:31] <Guest17938> no one ?
[18:32] <joachim_> test
[18:32] <freeone3000> I need a VPN client that does L2TP-PSK on 14.04-LTS. Any client will do, including PPA. Any suggestions?
[18:33] <robotdevil1> what is the syntax for ssh ??   username@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:port    ??
[18:33] <ldlework> Does anyone have any information regarding getting AUFS working for kernels like the 4.4 kernel in Ubuntu 16.04?
[18:33] <YokoBR> hi guys
[18:34] <robotdevil1> whenever I change to a different port besides port 22 it doesnt allow me to connect
[18:34] <YokoBR> well, i have an ubuntu server. I'm trying to use it as dhcp server, nat to share internet connection.
[18:35] <wangchao> Hi guys, does anyone know where I can find dbgsym package of linux-image-3.13.0-66-generic?
[18:35] <davido_> robotdevel1 ssh username@hostname -p portnum
[18:36] <davido_> sorry, make that ssh -p portnum username@hostname
[18:36] <timvisher> what generally controls the keyrepeat rate?
[18:36] <timvisher> is that something that is 'generally' controlled? or the window manager? or x?
[18:37] <robotdevil1> davido_: I cant use a ":"
[18:37] <robotdevil1> colon?
[18:39] <davido_> I don't think so. I usually just put it all in a .ssh/config anyway
[18:57] <RoadRunner> how to link projectM to Audacious?
[18:57] <nacc> ldlework: why do you ask? i believe aufs has some known issues...
[18:58] <echo511> hi will someone please direct me how to install ubuntu on a hdd from running arch instance. I have no CD or USB so I need to install on hdd and that drive then move to a target computer, thanks
[19:02] <EriC^^> echo511: do you have a usb?
[19:02] <echo511> no
[19:02] <ioria> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot , never done that
[19:03] <echo511> @ioria thanks
[19:03] <ioria> good luck mate
[19:23] <F41L> Small issue... suddenly, my second monitor is refusing to scale to the correct resolution :(
[19:23] <F41L> Displays shows it as unknown
[19:24] <F41L> I can only get it to go to 1360x768, when the monitor is a 1600x900
[19:26] <ioria> F41L, suddenly ? was working before ?
[19:27] <TroN-0074> hey
[19:30] <effbiai> is there an "ubuntu on windows 10" channel around or is this the place to ask questions about that?
[19:30] <F41L> ioria: correct. Since perhaps a few days ago when I used it last. Only thing I've changed is I let the updater run like I do most every day.
[19:31] <ioria> F41L, replug firmly  the cables ?
[19:34] <F41L> It's a DVI/VGA adapter. it's been working for 2 years, and suddenly today booting up, it refuses to allow me to set to the proper resolution in the Display settings.
[19:37] <ioria> F41L, uname -r ?
[19:38] <arunpyasi> Guys, what is the channel where mirrors are maintained ? I forgot
[19:39] <Pici> arunpyasi: #ubuntu-mirrors exists
[19:39] <F41L> ioria: 3.13.0-49-generic
[19:40] <ioria> F41L, a bit old ....
[19:40] <arunpyasi> Thanks Pici
[19:40] <ioria> !info linux-generic trusty
[19:42] <ioria> F41L, the current is  3.13.0.85  .... you don't keep updated your system ?
[19:44] <F41L> ioria: any time the updater asks me to update, I allow it.
[19:44] <F41L> Why it hasn't updated the kernel is beyond me
[19:45] <ioria> F41L, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  .... then   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... see what it says
[19:46] <ioria> F41L,  but to be honest, not sure it's related to your actual issue :(
[19:46] <F41L> I keep trying to do this "xrandr --newmode ....." I found googling
[19:46] <F41L> but it never works.
[19:46] <diskord> hi guys
[19:48] <diskord> am
[19:48] <scam> oi
[19:49] <mynameistux> hi
[19:49] <TroN-0074> hi
[19:49] <TroN-0074> what is happening?
[19:49] <TroN-0074> anything new with the old ubuntu?
[19:49] <ratrace> yup.
[19:51] <TroN-0074> are you guys running 16.04 already?
[19:51] <twatter> not here, 14.04 - you?
[19:51] <TroN-0074> I have an installation of 16.04 but it is with the mate desktop
[19:52] <TroN-0074> there are times when it froze and nothing can be done other than a hard reboot
[19:52] <twatter> i'm waiting for a few weeks after proper release date
[19:52] <ratrace> I'm on 16.04
[19:52] <twatter> any good?
[19:52] <linuxuz3r> me too
[19:52] <ratrace> same old.
[19:52] <linuxuz3r> i just upgraded
[19:53] <linuxuz3r> if you do fresh install you might get mir
[19:53] <twatter> is it purple or brown? :-)
[19:53] <linuxuz3r> pink
[19:53] <twatter> oo nice
[19:53] <ratrace> full o' bugs tho'.
[19:54] <linuxuz3r> squirells spring time
[19:54] <linuxuz3r> oh
[19:54] <twatter> is it using mir yet?
[19:54] <ratrace> nah
[19:54] <TroN-0074> I only went with the mate desktop flavor because I hear it was soo good
[19:54] <TroN-0074> so far it is ok
[19:54] <twatter> is it?
[19:54] <twatter> cool, i might give it a go
[19:55] <TroN-0074> it reminds me the old 8.04 which was the first distro I ever used
[19:55] <Artemis3v> depends if you loved gnome2 from ubuntu 10.04 days
[19:55] <Artemis3v> because mate is a gnome2 fork
[19:55] <TroN-0074> 8.04 was my first
[19:55] <linuxuz3r> what does the code name mean?
[19:55] <TroN-0074> I remember diggin compiz that was cool
[19:56] <Pici> !names | linuxuz3r
[19:57] <linuxuz3r> sounds like xenile xerus
[19:58] <brainwash> !final
[19:58] <weaseal> does anyone know how to add a custom DNS server to my ubuntu machine so that I can resolve domains that only the custom DNS server knows about, but also allow this same ubuntu machine to fall back to the DNS provided by my ISP so I can resolve the rest of the world?
[19:59] <twatter> weaseal that's deep!
[19:59] <ratrace> weaseal: do you need full zone control or is just A/AAAA sufficient? because if latter, just add them to /etc/hosts
[19:59] <weaseal> full zone
[19:59] <weaseal> it's mostly CNAME records
[20:00] <ratrace> weaseal: check out Bind then. bind9 package methinks
[20:00] <weaseal> I added my custom DNS server to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and then did 'resolvconf -u' but then all the DNS provided by my ISP stopped working
[20:00] <ratrace> !info bind9
[20:00] <weaseal> hmm ok, that may take more time than it is worth, for now I'll just toggle back and forth
[20:00] <weaseal> thank you for the info!
[20:00] <rob0> I would just disable the resolvconf and pulling nameservers from DHCP.
[20:00] <ratrace> weaseal: oh wait, that's entirely different question then
[20:01] <ratrace> weaseal: do you already have a DNS server you just want to use as a resolver?
[20:01] <weaseal> yes
[20:01] <ratrace> or do you want to set up such an entire server?
[20:01] <rob0> Put only "nameserver 127.0.0.1" in /etc/resolv.conf and have it stay that way.
[20:01] <weaseal> the DNS server is set up
[20:01] <weaseal> rob0: i don't think that wuold work since my custom DNS server is not hosted on localhost
[20:01] <ratrace> you can add it to custom interface configuration/settings
[20:02] <rob0> then substitute the proper IP address in place of "127.0.0.1" :)
[20:03] <weaseal> rob0: but then the rest of the world stops working, that is the problem :)
[20:03] <weaseal> ratrace: i'll give that a try, thanks
[20:03] <rob0> why would it?
[20:03] <weaseal> not sure, but it does
[20:03] <weaseal> I am not a DNS expert
[20:03] <rob0> That means you did something wrong.
[20:03] <weaseal> very helpful
[20:04] <rob0> heh, oh well
[20:05] <linuxuz3r> is firefox secure
[20:06] <evora> hello guys
[20:06] <weaseal> ok I got it, I updated /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head again
[20:06] <weaseal> I put my ISP's DNS IP first, and then my custom DNS IP
[20:06] <weaseal> and then resolvconf -u
[20:06] <evora> I just install ubuntu 14.04 , I do have problem of brightness
[20:06] <weaseal> everything works!
[20:07] <evora> I cannot control, its too much bright
[20:07] <evora> what to do ? please help !!, my eyes are spoiling
[20:07] <evora> I never thought it could be such big problem
[20:07] <linuxuz3r> whats a good screen recorder?
[20:08] <momo2259> how  do you get the community code registration thing
[20:08] <evora> its my toshiba
[20:08] <evora> labtop m840
[20:08] <Pici> linuxuz3r: I've heard good things about kazam.
[20:08] <evora> toshiba m840
[20:08] <linuxuz3r> kazam or kazaa?
[20:08] <twatter> linuxuz3r: i tried avconv and it was fine apart from laggy audio - never got to the bottom of it
[20:08] <evora> linuxuz3r : can you help me ?
[20:09] <evora> can anybody help me ??
[20:09] <twatter> linuxuz3r: er - i just used the tutorials i could find. like i said the audio didn't work well - looked fine tho
[20:09] <momo2259> hi
[20:10] <diskord> Sup, where can i found info about pipelines in linux and basic info about kernel?
[20:10] <twatter> linuxuz3r: i started here: http://www.tecmint.com/avconv-command-examples/
[20:10] <evora> hi, anybody
[20:11] <evora> can you help me guys, I think you are export ..common yar
[20:11] <evora> I cannot see the screen
[20:11] <linuxuz3r> twatter, ffmpeg can do that
[20:11] <evora> my eyes are spoiling
[20:11] <linuxuz3r> ?
[20:11] <k1l> diskord: i dont know what you mean with "pipelines in linux" but for general linux questions you might want to ask in ##linux
[20:11] <linuxuz3r> what do you need help with
[20:11] <evora> i cannnot control the brightness of screen
[20:12] <twatter> linuxuz3r: avconv is like the updated version of ffmpeg that buntu uses
[20:12] <evora> linuxuz3r : I cannot control the brightness of screen of toshiba
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[20:12] <linuxuz3r> evora what video card pc or laptop
[20:12] <evora> linuxuz3r toshiba m840
[20:13] <linuxuz3r> twatter, so ubuntu forks oss and customize it to their own
[20:13] <linuxuz3r> i wonder if ubuntu will soon default to mate
[20:13] <linuxuz3r> evora is your display server Xorg?
[20:14] <evora> linuxuz3r today I install ubuntu 14.04
[20:14] <momo2259> hi
[20:14] <twatter> linuxuz3r: i dunno if anyone else uses avconv but caconical certainly likes to make stuff its own
[20:14] <nath5> hello everyone, If I have ubuntu 16.04 with unity is there an easy way to install gnome so I can try that out
[20:14] <evora> linuxuz3r and now i cannot control the brightness
[20:15] <concord> I can do this: ps aux | grep -i [t]esting | awk '{print $13}' | sort -nr | uniq
[20:15] <concord> 172.16.37.126
[20:15] <concord> 172.16.37.125
[20:15] <concord> 172.16.37.124
[20:15] <concord> 172.16.37.123
[20:15] <k1l> twatter: linuxuz3r avconv is a fork from ffmpeg due to internal discussions. debian (the base of ubuntu) did chose avconv so did ubuntu then. but now debian and ubuntu include both again
[20:15] <concord> 172.16.37.122
[20:15] <k1l> twatter: stop spreading FUD
[20:15] <twatter> cheers k1l
[20:15] <evora> linuxuz3r how to know the display is server Xorg or not
[20:15] <xangua> !xenial | nath5 just install gnome shell, for anything else...
[20:15] <linuxuz3r> if you have 3d evora try glxinfo
[20:16] <evora> linuxuz3r in command prompt
[20:16] <linuxuz3r> yes
[20:18] <linuxuz3r> whoops try ps aux | grep Xorg
[20:18] <linuxuz3r> evora whoops try #ps aux | grep Xorg
[20:19] <linuxuz3r> dont they have intel drivers for xorg
[20:19] <evora> linuxuz3r
[20:19] <linuxuz3r> anyway if they dont have intel drivers gallium drivers are also good
[20:19] <linuxuz3r> gallium or nouveau
[20:19] <k1l> evora: there is nothing different from xorg server right now.
[20:20] <linuxuz3r> also
[20:20] <k1l> evora: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[20:20] <linuxuz3r> i dont know how to use express keys on your laptop evora
[20:20] <hetii> Hi, so after 2 days I was able to make a bootable pendrive ;/
[20:20] <linuxuz3r> the brightness key might not work
[20:20] <evora> linuxz3r see the pastebin http://pastebin.com/ng9P74wg
[20:20] <freeone3000> I need a VPN client that does L2TP-PSK on 14.04-LTS. Any client will do, including PPA. Any suggestions?
[20:20] <hetii> but..
[20:21] <linuxuz3r> evora you no have 3d
[20:21] <evora> linuxuzr after I press ps aux | grep Xorg http://pastebin.com/ng9P74wg
[20:21] <hetii> I why the hell I need to plug my pendrive into  usb 2.0 slot instead 3.0 ?? Otherwise ubuntu raise: unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[20:21] <hetii> ??
[20:22] <evora> linuxuzr after I press ps aux | grep Xorg    "S+   21:20   0:00 grep --color=auto Xorg"
[20:22] <Dragnadh> That doesn't sound right, hettii.
[20:22] <linuxuz3r> evora i dont know how to control the express keys in your laptop
[20:22] <hetii> Dragnadh, but it is like it is...
[20:22] <Ben64> hetii: happens sometimes
[20:22] <hetii> I cannot accept such answer
[20:23] <evora> linuxuz3r my express key for brightness control is fn key plus f2
[20:23] <evora> linuxuz3r but the key doesnot work
[20:23] <linuxuz3r> yes
[20:23] <linuxuz3r> let me see if this works for you
[20:23] <hetii> First to have it bootable I manual need to install mbr/syslinux/ and configure it to load kernel/initrd
[20:24] <k1l> evora: what laptop is it?
[20:24] <hetii> but ok thats work, but as long as kernel takes control then I should work without any issue that I have.
[20:24] <nacc> hetii: does `dmesg` give you any hints between the two ports? what version of ubuntu?
[20:24] <hetii> its ubuntu-mate 15.10
[20:24] <evora> k1l  toshiba m840
[20:24] <hetii> dmesg don`t claim any issue
[20:25] <linuxuz3r> evora try these
[20:25] <linuxuz3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Precise#Keyboard
[20:25] <nacc> hetii: iirc, mate does something different with their kernels, you might want to ask the mate folks
[20:25] <linuxuz3r> it seems that you need pommed
[20:25] <hetii> btw I also need to add as a kernel argument: ignore_uuid
[20:25] <AndChat481025> i just installed the mini.iso + lxde, but i can't read my usb
[20:26] <hetii> otherwise even in usb2.0 have this error.
[20:26] <linuxuz3r> this = these
[20:26] <k1l> evora: try the kernel mode: acpi_backlight=vendor
[20:26] <hetii> Moreover. Other things that I found
[20:26] <AndChat481025> ..
[20:26] <evora> k1l how to reach there
[20:26] <hetii> its not related to ubuntu-mate but general to ubuntu initial ram disk
[20:27] <hetii> its not possible to use persistent and toram together
[20:27] <k1l> evora: when booting press "e" in grub menu. then add "acpi_backlight=vendor"  after the line where it says "quiet splash". then press ctrl+x to boot
[20:27] <linuxuz3r> evora try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Precise#Keyboard
[20:27] <AndChat481025> .
[20:27] <evora> linuxuz3r i had gone to link
[20:28] <k1l> linuxuz3r: you know that is mac hardware specific?
[20:28] <linuxuz3r> LCD Brightness Control
[20:28] <linuxuz3r> xorg is universal
[20:28] <linuxuz3r> but i dont know if evora uses xorfg
[20:28] <linuxuz3r> xorg
[20:29] <k1l> linuxuz3r: what else should he use?
[20:29] <linuxuz3r> mir
[20:29] <linuxuz3r> on new ubuntu xx
[20:29] <k1l> and no. its not universal. apple hardware is very specific
[20:29] <evora> linuxuz3r k1l I fade up with this new,
[20:29] <k1l> linuxuz3r: *sigh*
[20:29] <evora> i will return back to window if I cannot solve
[20:29] <leo-evsn> hey guys, i just installed mini.iso + lxde, everything is working well except when i insert a usb it doesnt show anything
[20:29] <k1l> linuxuz3r: so what ubuntu ships mir as default?
[20:30] <linuxuz3r> i thought it does
[20:30] <linuxuz3r> maybe its for unity 8
[20:30] <Ben64> leo-evsn: a usb what
[20:30] <k1l> linuxuz3r: please stop guessing if you have no clue at all.
[20:30] <k1l> evora: what kernel is in use? "uname -a" will tell.
[20:31] <evora> k1l Linux prakash-Satellite-M840 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 24 21:16:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:31] <leo-evsn> Ben64: when I insert a USB drive, it doesn't mount, is there any way to mount usb automatically whenever I insert them.
[20:32] <Ben64> leo-evsn: well yeah, it does that normally when you install the full desktop. you must be missing things since you used the mini.iso
[20:32] <evora> k1l read above, I copy and paste of uname -a
[20:33] <leo-evsn> Ben64: Yeah I know, but what is software responsible for that in the full desktop so I can install it.
[20:33] <Dragnadh> the problem of leo-evsn seems similair to that of hetii o_O
[20:33] <k1l> evora: hmm, it should be fixed since 3.16 if i read this correctly: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69761
[20:33] <linuxuz3r> hmm evora if his solution doesnt work read this LCD Brightness Control
[20:33] <linuxuz3r> http://pastebin.com/ng9P74wghttp://pastebin.com/ng9P74wg
[20:34] <leo-evsn> Dragnadh: I just joined, is he asking the same thing too?
[20:34] <Ben64> not even close
[20:34] <hetii> General I spend more then week to undestand the step by step what ubuntu do in his bootstrap procedure and wonder why not rewwrite it from scratch ...
[20:35] <linuxuz3r> k1l, yes you are right
[20:35] <Dragnadh> Ben64, i just ment like both are usb problems ;p
[20:35] <linuxuz3r> k1l, do you know the pc version of pommed for macs
[20:35] <hetii> for eg, integration with iPXE is also problematic
[20:35] <Ben64> Dragnadh: not really
[20:36] <hetii> and only ubuntu have such problems
[20:36] <jeeves_moss> does anyone know how to rsync from a URL?
[20:36] <YokoBR> hi guys
[20:37] <radeko> hello
[20:37] <nacc> jeeves_moss: a rsync:// url?
[20:37] <linuxuz3r> evora, good luck /msg linuxuz3r for help
[20:37] <YokoBR> please, for jesus and luke skywalker, i can't find out why does my dhcp service doesn't provid ip's from 192.168.0.255 according to this config: http://pastebin.com/cr7bjZaM
[20:37] <leo-evsn> I installed the ubuntu mini.iso in my school and I added all softwares we need but it's hard to mount usb manually on every system especially for kids.
[20:37] <linuxuz3r> im going to work on ubuntu
[20:38] <boa> anyone have a fix for error: diskfilter writes are not supported on boot
[20:38] <Ben64> leo-evsn: why install mini then
[20:38] <boa> seems related to lvm and raid
[20:38] <jeeves_moss> nacc:  I'm trying to get cobbler to sync a bunch of puppet branches
[20:38] <boa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1274320
[20:38] <evora> k1l  YES, the link that you sent me is quite close to my problem
[20:39] <nacc> YokoBR: can you rephrase your question? the IP 192.168.0.255 is not in the range provided in your config (nor should it be generally)
[20:39] <evora> k1l, if you see go in the middle part or if you search brightness, you could get the Event ..what is that ??
[20:39] <nacc> jeeves_moss: might ask in #cobbler, but not sure what puppet branches are in this context? like puppet source code?
[20:40] <jeeves_moss> nacc:  it's the .box files
[20:40] <leo-evsn> Ben64: the computers have only 256mb ram, and when I tried the mini it worked great (We've been using it for 3 months) but now they have to bring their works on usb
[20:40] <YokoBR> nacc: i neet more than 253 hosts. So I've set my internal ip as 192.168.0.1 subnet 255.255.0.0. I thought that it would make my ubuntu server provide ip's from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.10.254.
[20:41] <Ben64> leo-evsn: but you installed lxde, you might as well install lubuntu
[20:41] <nacc> jeeves_moss: i lack puppet context, so you just need to d/l some files as part of a cobbler install?
[20:42] <nacc> jeeves_moss: moving to #cobbler :)
[20:42] <leo-evsn> I tried lubuntu, but the performance wasn't great as mini + lxde-core, plus it's only problem i'm facing right know so why the change
[20:42] <YokoBR> nacc: i need ips like 192.168.0.54, 192.168.1.66, 192.168.8.55
[20:42] <jeeves_moss> nacc,   ugh, nm, id10t error over here.  dumb repo server has no internet access
[20:42] <nacc> jeeves_moss: :) np
[20:46] <nacc> YokoBR: iiuc, i think you would be better off having multiple subnets? better control
[20:47] <nacc> YokoBR: that is, one shared-network and multiple subnets (if it's all one physical network)
[20:47] <YokoBR> nacc: why? i really don't need control, i only need many hosts connected
[20:48] <leo-evsn> come on guys, anyone knows how to auto mount inserted usb automaticall
[20:48] <squinty> leo-evsn,  http://ubuntuguide.net/enable-automount-usb-drivers-on-ubuntu-server
[20:48] <nacc> leo-evsn: and/or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB ?
[20:53] <nacc> YokoBR: do you want to provide from 192.168.0.* to 192.168.254.* ?
[20:55] <evora> k1l its just testing
[20:55] <evora> k1l how long it takes to complete
[20:55] <evora> k1l its so difficult to work in ubuntu
[20:56] <evora> k1l  i just need to change small thing, but it has problem.. :(
[20:58] <nacc> evora: while old, does this possibly apply to your system as well? http://askubuntu.com/questions/369756/unable-to-change-brightness-ubuntu-13-04-toshiba-satellite-a105
[20:59] <evora> k1l nacc let me try more one hour, if I canot change the brightness of my laptop, I will swift to window back again :(
[20:59] <nacc> evora: to be sure, you tried acpi_backlight=vendor already?
[21:00] <k1l> evora: did you try what i asked you?
[21:00] <k1l> this^
[21:00] <evora> nacc I havnot done what you say
[21:00] <k1l> dont try that apple hardware stuff the other guy linked. that is not helping as i told several times
[21:00] <evora> k1l i am doing what you say its in the process
[21:00] <nacc> evora: ok, that seems to be a common solution for toshiba laptops
[21:00] <evora> nacc what I need to do, can you tell me step wise
[21:01] <nacc> evora: are you comfortable editing the kernel command-line from grub?
 evora: when booting press "e" in grub menu. then add "acpi_backlight=vendor"  after the line where it says "quiet splash". then press ctrl+x to boot
[21:01] <evora> not much,, but if you say step wise, I think I can do it
[21:01] <nacc> k1l: thanks :) was just scrolling back
[21:03] <evora> nacc k1l thats it, ok I will reboot the machine...
[21:08] <evora_> k1l nacc I did it
[21:08] <evora_> k1l nacc add in grub, after that what I should do ??
[21:09] <k1l> add the "acpi_backlight=vendor" in the kernel line at the end. then press ctrl+x to boot that entry
[21:09] <django_> anyone get the Brave browser on ubuntu
[21:11] <evora_> k1l i did it
[21:11] <k1l> evora_: and?
[21:12] <evora_> k1l I am back to the desktop, but still  I cannot control the screen
[21:12] <evora_> k1l can you tell me what is the next step
[21:13] <k1l> evora_: "cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:13] <k1l> show the link here please
[21:14] <evora_> k1l there is nothing
[21:15] <evora_> k1l nacc I did that
[21:16] <nacc> evora_: "there is nothing" => your syslog is empty?
[21:17] <k1l> evora_: does "cat /var/log/syslog" output something? if yes please put it all into a pastebin
[21:17] <evora_> nacc when I give the command as k1l says "cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999" there is nothing in output
[21:18] <k1l> evora_: it should output a url
[21:18] <k1l> could take 10 seconds
[21:18] <g_> Hi , Is System calls kind of interrupts ?
[21:18] <evora_> k1l ok I wil send the coutput of cat/var/log/syslog
[21:19] <k1l> evora_: details matter
[21:19] <nacc> evora_: right, k1l was having you pipe the syslog output to termbin.com so that we can view it (like a pastebin)
[21:19] <k1l> evora_: its "cat /var/log/syslog"
[21:20] <evora_> k1l nacc I do have file, but when I try to pastebin its too much big file
[21:20] <HoloIRCUser1> Hi
[21:21] <nacc> g_: older version of linux/hardware may have used int 0x80 to make a system call (pre-2.5 in the kernel); but now there's sysenter/syscall
[21:22] <nacc> g_: it's a relatively arch-specific question
[21:22] <YokoBR> nacc: hi there
[21:22] <nacc> YokoBR: hello
[21:22] <YokoBR> well, that's it, i need a dhcp service that provides ip's from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.254.254
[21:22] <YokoBR> or something like that.
[21:24] <YokoBR> nacc: so i've put my internal ip with 192.168.0.1 sn: 255.255.0.0
[21:24] <k1l> evora_: grep "Command line" /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:24] <YokoBR> and dhcp range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.10.254
[21:24] <YokoBR> that was supposed to work, right?
[21:26] <enhance> nhandler++
[21:27] <evora_> nacc k1l the file is big so I paste int two link first link is http://pastebin.com/h5dahDeU and http://pastebin.com/ULrQgppa
[21:28] <nacc> evora_: can you pastebin `cat /proc/cmdline` ?
[21:29] <evora_> nacc k1l BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-25-generic root=UUID=0414933c-19b9-4877-bb0d-334507c0bc5d ro quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor vt.handoff=7
[21:30] <YokoBR> please, does anyone knows how do I set my dhcp server to provide ips from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.10.254?
[21:31] <freeone3000> YokoBR: option range 192.168.0.1 192.168.10.254; in your dhcpd.conf
[21:31] <cliffer> i just installed phamm and i get the error "PHP message: PHP Warning:  ldap_search(): Search: Invalid DN syntax in /usr/share/phamm/lib/ldap.php on line 157". slapd gives " do_search: invalid dn: "vd=,o=hosting,dc=cembot,dc=com"". is it correct that vd is empty? if not, where to change it?
[21:32] <YokoBR> freeone3000: it's just like that, but only provides ip's until 192.168.0.254
[21:33] <nacc> freeone3000: taht will only work with a proper subnet declaration, fwiw
[21:33] <YokoBR> nacc: my subnet is 255.255.0.0
[21:35] <darrius6969> hi
[21:35] <darrius6969> sup
[21:36] <darrius6969> duh duh duh duh bat mannnnn
[21:36] <evora_> nacc and k1l I am running out of time... i never imagine it would be such difficulty
[21:36] <darrius6969> Who nows what highschool dxd is
[21:37] <evora_> nacc and k1l afte working in such bright laptop for more than 2 hour, my eyes start to pain.... its far better to install window back..
[21:37] <evora_> nacc and k1l , thank you so much... for your time......
[21:38] <darrius6969> Who knows the Anime Highschool Dxd
[21:38] <evora_> nacc and k1l I will quite... you adivce me lots of things to do, but we three became unsuccessful
[21:38] <evora_> nacc and k1l thanks a lot
[21:41] <nacc> evora_: sorry we couldn't help more -- did you check any of the askubuntu links i posted?
[21:42] <evora_> nacc I did lot
[21:42] <et09> is there an upgrade path from 15.04 to 16.04?
[21:42] <nacc> et09: no, 15.04 is eol already
[21:42] <et09> is there a non-suicidal way to do it? ;)
[21:42] <k1l> et09: upgrade to 15.10 asap
[21:42] <nacc> !eol | et09
[21:43] <evora_> nacc did you see the link that i sent of pastebin http://pastebin.com/h5dahDeU  http://pastebin.com/ULrQgppa
[21:43] <et09> might as well
[21:43] <et09> *deep breath*
[21:44] <et09> wily coyote
[21:46] <et09> if i upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, and 16..04 goes from beta to release in a week (which it is, right) then it's not a headache, correct?
[21:46] <nacc> !final | et09
[21:47] <et09> gotcha, thanks
[21:50] <ahoneybun> mm if I install 14.04 amd64+mac image will I be able to upgrade to 16.04? or do I need a new special image for 16.04?
[21:51] <ubuntu574> Hello, my DE is completely messed up and I need to boot without going into X (or at least get the lightdm login prompt so I can switch to a different DE).  I can't figure out how to get a terminal, and when my computer boots, it boots directly into the broken DE
[21:51] <ubuntu574> how can I boot directly into a terminal?
[21:51] <k1l> ahoneybun: upgrade should work. but the LTS upgrade is opened in july when 16.04.1 is released
[21:52] <ahoneybun> I don't see any +mac images for 15.04 -> 15.10
[21:52] <ahoneybun> I'm working with a Mac Mini 2,1 or 3,1 not sure
[21:53] <k1l> didnt they include that refind/efi stuff into the regular installer?
[21:53] <ahoneybun> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mac_mini2-1/Trusty
[21:53] <ahoneybun> a normal 14.04 dvd did not boot right
[21:53] <ahoneybun> it left me at a menu to select cdrom type
[21:53] <nacc> ahoneybun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes
[21:53] <nacc> ahoneybun: "The amd64 (Intel x86 64bit) images specifically targeted at Apple hardware (amd64+mac) are no longer produced. "
[21:54] <ahoneybun> darn
[21:54] <ahoneybun> I just got 12 units to try out
[21:54] <ahoneybun> either to install kodi or android x86
[21:54] <nacc> ahoneybun: there are some bits there to try to do the update, that is the base image should
[21:54] <nacc> *should work
[21:54] <k1l> ahoneybun: Most Apple computers are now capable of booting the amd64 image directly using the EFI (not legacy) boot method so long as their firmware is up to date.
[21:54] <k1l> so: <k1l> didnt they include that refind/efi stuff into the regular installer?   yes they did
[21:55] <ahoneybun> newer ones k1l
[21:55] <ahoneybun> not 2,1
[21:55] <ahoneybun> it says I have to patch iso images
[21:55] <nacc> ahoneybun: it says Macbook 2,1 specfically?
[21:55] <nacc> oh that you need to patch it
[21:55] <ahoneybun>  (tested working on Macbook 2,1).
[21:56] <nacc> ahoneybun: pretty easy hack, but YMMV
[21:56] <ahoneybun> yea I want to try out MATE on it
[21:56] <ahoneybun> or some image with Kodi
[21:56] <ahoneybun> I'll try it on the next machine
[21:56] <ahoneybun> thanks na
[21:56] <ahoneybun> nacc,
[21:57] <nacc> ahoneybun: the 32-bit image might just work, not sure
[21:58] <nacc> ahoneybun: np, gl!
[22:03] <ahoneybun> nacc, let's see how this install goes lol
[22:04] <overkill_> hi evry one
[22:04] <Bellator> nickserv identify giantNebulaEyedTits13&17
[22:04] <k1l> Bellator: nice long password, but i would change that now.
[22:05] <anonmous> hi
[22:05] <drown> hello all
[22:05] <drown> Can anyone help me out with an ampache problem?
[22:06] <anonmous> hello
[22:06] <drown> I'm unable to create a catalogue from a second har drive
[22:09] <znr> ado about nothing... I want to share something I found... it might help someone
[22:09] <znr> https://imgur.com/gallery/xw8aH8g
[22:16] <stqism> 					
[22:21] <mekhami_> i have ubuntu 15.10 installed on my desktop. What's the simplest way to put dual boot windows?
[22:24] <ovrclockd> exit
[22:25] <stqism> dude, it's /exit or /quit 	
[22:25] <mekhami_> stqism: seeing as he's already gone, i think he probably knew that.
[22:25] <raj_> While dinking around with an OpenStack Liberty setup (one using qemu/kvm) I noticed that a instance running an 15.04 image didn't have the qemu process consuming CPU while the instance was idle.  In the same setup a 16.04 image did.  Several percentage points.  Time consumed by the "main" qemu thread from the looks of things.  I was wondering if anyone else has seen that and/or might know what would be different between the two in terms of b
[22:25] <raj_> ehaviour while idle.
[22:25] <stqism> mekhami_, I can't read apparently 	
[22:30] <applepie> sooo whats up?
[22:34] <Taxicletter> Not much, it seems :-)
[22:37] <applepie> well ubuntu used to be a great distro, then the tablets came and everything changed.. no seriously the UI and anything a causal user interfaced with
[22:38] <abracadabrababy> Hi. I have some sight, so it grinds my gears that Orca reads me the window title and hyperlinks. All I want is for Orca to read me documents (with structural navigation. And whatever I "Tab" to. Is it possible to configure Orca like that?
[22:38] <applepie> well it could be worse you could be using links
[22:39] <abracadabrababy> Links is nice :)
[22:39] <abracadabrababy> But I like w3m better
[22:40] <applepie> Ive been out of the game for a while XD what is w3m
[22:40] <abracadabrababy> But just so you know blind and vision impaired people can use firefox and chrome just fine
[22:41] <applepie> well I refuse to use firefox anymore
[22:41] <applepie> and chrome is nice and fast
[22:44] <thechanceg> never heard of links, but have used lynx... funny how those sound the same
[22:48] <mekhami_> in order to dual boot windows on a machine that already has ubuntu, i have to have a boot usb for ubuntu as well so i can reinstall grub?
[22:49] <applepie> there is only one way to fix your problem! http://www.dban.org/ install this to a flash drive and boot into it
[22:49] <stqism> ??? 	
[22:52] <mekhami_> !op
[22:52] <mekhami_> well i didn't know it was emergencies only -.-
[22:53] <applepie> wow a joke constitutes a emergency?
[22:53] <DalekSec> applepie: Still, don't do that here please.
[22:53] <elky> applepie: not an appropriate joke for a support channel
[22:53] <elky> mekhami_: op calls are always for emergencies.
[22:53]  * genii MAKES MORE COFFEE
[22:54] <mekhami_> elky: i am cosnequently aware :P
[22:54] <mekhami_> i'm used to getting whispered the list of ops from the bot
[22:54] <mekhami_> seems more useful
[22:54] <mekhami_> elky: the real elky btw?
[22:54] <applepie> wow this room is edgy XD
[22:54] <mekhami_> or not
[22:54] <applepie> I like you folks XD
[22:54] <elky> mekhami_: i don't play poker no
[22:55] <mekhami_> well you could play brood war =P but i get your point.
[22:56] <Guest83233> Why is IRC chats so weird? Why is there no other desktop chat applications on linux? One reason i always loved Aol was because of the way the chatrooms worked.
[22:57] <dax> because you're not used to them. there are.
[22:57] <dax> !info pidgin
[22:57] <dax> good example ^
[22:57] <dax> does AOL IM just fine
[22:57] <nacc> Guest83233: IRC isn't about the client, it is the protocol used by various clients
[22:57] <Guest83233> Pidgin is for instant messaging... it's not chatrooms
[22:58] <dax> Pidgin does multi-user AIM chats just fine.
[22:58] <qinusty> Hey guy, I accidentally formatted my /boot partition instead of another parition (Tired, bad labels. Long story.) Is there any way to easily recover an EFI /boot partition?
[22:58] <applepie> Pidgin runs the irc great
[22:58] <terratoma> Guest83233: best irc client is irssi
[22:58] <Guest83233> I feel like half the people who use linux are smart enough to build something like the Aol Desktop but better and more like linux
[22:58] <Guest83233> But i know my opinion is unpopular
[22:58] <applepie> there was a Aol desktop lolwhat?
[22:59] <dax> Meanwhile, #ubuntu is an Ubuntu technical support channel. So stuff that is not actual technical support goes elsewhere.
[22:59] <Guest83233> oh yes the typical "lolwhat" when someone mentions aol... :/ everyone's always like "dude you trollin"
[23:00] <rob0> qinusty, probably not a disaster, just need to reinstall the kernel, I'd think.
[23:00] <applepie> no i just cannot imagine the people responsible for the endless summer to try to make their own os..
[23:00] <rob0> s/summer/September/
[23:01] <Guest83233> I sit here wanting a linux version of Aol Desktop and may other apps but my dumbass can't even code a website. :/
[23:01]  * znr is heading to bed
[23:02] <znr> gn chan
[23:02] <Guest83233> I know basic html and shit but thats about it
[23:02] <drown> aol desktop?
[23:02] <drown> you mean aim?
[23:02] <Guest83233> No I mean Aol Desktop... we used to call it Aol browser...
[23:02] <drown> oh yeah
[23:02] <drown> I remember lol
[23:02] <applepie> .... well
[23:02] <drown> it was their proprietary client
[23:03] <drown> Why do you want that exactly?
[23:03] <Guest83233> I loved the 8.0 version with the simple little profile and the chatrooms
[23:03] <drown> And you might try Mozilla Seamonkey
[23:03] <drown> migh be kinda what your looking for.
[23:03] <squinty> mekhami_,  join #freenode ->  /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list     and that will give op's names
[23:03] <Guest83233> I cant find anymore applications today that has chats like that because everything all webapp based
[23:03] <Guest83233> everythings*
[23:04] <drown> well yes.
[23:04] <applepie> I was about to say if Aol is making a linux distro
[23:04] <Guest83233> I miss the old internet, not all of it just certain parts of it
[23:04] <nacc> Guest83233: #offtopic :)
[23:04] <applepie> it might be about time for me to step off the stomp.. and make sure its 12 knots
[23:04] <Guest83233> Aol isnt doing shit... they suck at life
[23:04] <Guest83233> :/
[23:05] <rob0> squinty, you don't have to be in #freenode to /msg chanserv
[23:05] <applepie> well im out guys
[23:05] <applepie> ill see you later
[23:05] <drown> they still provide dial up service
[23:05] <davido_> Please avoid profanity in this support channel, @Guest83233.
[23:05] <Guest83233> People use dial up?
[23:06] <drown> yes plenty of people still do
[23:06] <drown> I know a woman who works for AOL actually
[23:06] <nacc> ok ok, all of this is #offtopic now :)
[23:06] <squinty> rob0,  hmmmm...have tried that command in a couple of channels and the only one that actually displays the needed information is #freenode.  did you try that command here
[23:07] <Guest83233> How hard would it be to build a desktop application with those features anyway?
[23:07] <drown> its not building the application it's the necessary network and users needed to make it useful.
[23:07] <\9> squinty: /msg is user-to-user messaging. what channels you are in when you use it doesn't matter
[23:08] <mekhami_> i'm trying to format a usb disk with gparted but i'm not sure if it's showing up. what's the command to list hardware messages again?
[23:08] <drown> dmesg
[23:08] <mekhami_> i need to verify that /dev/sdb is actually this device
[23:08] <drown> mekhami
[23:08] <drown> or
[23:08] <drown> blkid
[23:08] <drown> to show partitions/storages
[23:08] <mekhami_> okay so it is /dev/sdb
[23:08] <mekhami_> when i open up gparted and select that
[23:08] <mekhami_> i don't seem to have the option to format it
[23:08] <rob0> squinty, in irssi you get the reply from chanserv in a separate window.
[23:08] <drown> is it mounted?
[23:09] <\9> mekhami_: you format partitions, not devices
[23:09] <squinty> \9 well obviously it does in this hexchat version (current and up to date) here otherwise I would not have stated what I did
[23:09] <drown> usually needs to be unmounted first
[23:09] <\9> and yeah you'll need to unmount it first
[23:09] <\9> squinty: that is very untrue
[23:10] <mekhami_> drown:
[23:10] <mekhami_> \9 it says it's not mounted as it is
[23:10] <squinty> rob0, \9  ok have it your way.  here that is definitely NOT the case   end of discussion please
[23:10] <drown> okay
[23:10] <drown> so in gparted
[23:11] <drown> you have a drop down menu correct?
[23:11] <mekhami_> yes
[23:11] <\9> mekhami_: well as I said, /dev/sdb is a device and you format partitions of devices
[23:11] <\9> generally e.g. /dev/sdb1
[23:11] <mekhami_> \9 right
[23:11] <drown> what do you see available?
[23:11] <drown> is there unused space?
[23:11] <mekhami_> in gparted, there are two, /dev/sda (obviously) and /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb shows all unallocated
[23:12] <drown> okay
[23:12] <drown> you need a partition table
[23:12] <\9> then you don't have any partitions at all on it
[23:12] <drown> I believe.
[23:12] <\9> so you'll need to make one
[23:12] <drown> go to device
[23:12] <mekhami_> okay i see
[23:12] <\9> you're trying to format a partition but you don't have any to begin with
[23:12] <drown> and try create partition table.
[23:12] <drown> there's no data on this stick right?
[23:12] <mekhami_> right
[23:13] <drown> okay
[23:13] <mekhami_> so now it shows there's one ntfs partition 30gb
[23:13] <mekhami_> (i'd be really surprised if this was actually 30gb
[23:13] <drown> why?
[23:13] <mekhami_> idk its a dinky little usb stick i had lying around, those are almost always 4gb for me =P
[23:13] <mekhami_> if i stumbled upon a 30gb, lucky me
[23:13] <drown> it should say on the device
[23:13] <drown> what it contains
[23:14] <mekhami_> okay so
[23:14] <mekhami_> now i have an ntfs partition
[23:14] <drown> right
[23:14] <drown> is it labeled?
[23:14] <mekhami_> how exactly do i create a windows usb bootable
[23:14] <drown> wel
[23:14] <drown> hold on
[23:14] <drown> what exactly are you trying to make here?
[23:14] <mekhami_> windows boot loader
[23:14] <mekhami_> tryign to dual boot
[23:14] <drown> well
[23:15] <mekhami_> already have ubuntu, need windows on a smallish partition of the main hd
[23:15] <drown> okay
[23:15] <drown> the main hdd
[23:15] <drown> is dev/sda
[23:15] <mekhami_> right
[23:15] <drown> not dev/sdb
[23:15] <mekhami_> correct
[23:15] <mekhami_> should i create a  partition for the windows part now
[23:15] <mekhami_> no i can't do that
[23:16] <mekhami_> can't unmount it
[23:16] <mekhami_> duh.
[23:16] <mekhami_> anyways.
[23:16] <drown> Well
[23:16] <mekhami_> i just need to put windows on this usb now
[23:16] <drown> that's usually what a live usb is good for
[23:16] <mekhami_> yeah i'm doing this in reverse
[23:16] <mekhami_> i already have ubuntu
[23:16] <drown> you run your OS with gparted on the usb
[23:16] <drown> then work on the main hdd
[23:16] <drown> I'm assuming you have a Windows install disk?
[23:16] <Guest4438> hi guys this is my first time in the IRC
[23:17] <mekhami_> i have the ISO file
[23:17] <drown> and you have a Windows key that is currently NOT ACTIVATED?
[23:17] <mekhami_> probably.
[23:17] <drown> lol.
[23:18] <drown> I've honestly never done this the other way around.
[23:18] <mekhami_> am i gonna be screwed if i don't? i'm not sure if they ever used this.
[23:18] <mekhami_> this is frustrating
[23:18] <mekhami_> i just want to dual boot windows and it feels like a nightmare
[23:18] <drown> I've never installed Windows 2nd.
[23:18] <drown> I'm pretty sure
[23:18] <drown> you need to have unallocated space on the main HDD
[23:18] <drown> then boot from the Windows USB
[23:19] <drown> and set it up on the main drive
[23:19] <drown> I myself have never created a Windows USB Installer
[23:19] <drown> But I'm quite sure this process is detailed online.
[23:23] <mekhami_> apparently you can't even buy a new copy of windows 7 anywhere
[23:23] <mekhami_> digitally anyway.
[23:23] <drown> no I dont think so
[23:23] <drown> only oem's have it
[23:24] <drown> Sometimes you can find old laptops or desktops with it still installed in stores with old inventory
[23:24] <mekhami_> maybe i should just buy windows 10 anyway
[23:24] <drown> but even that could be a longshot
[23:24] <drown> I'm not allowing any of my Windows devices to update to 10
[23:24] <mekhami_> what are you running
[23:24] <mekhami_> vista?
[23:24] <squinty> !topic
[23:24] <drown> I have a 7 install and 2 8 installs
[23:25] <mekhami_> if it weren't for gaming microsoft would be dead.
[23:25] <drown> I wish that were true,but most businesses rely on Microsoft
[23:26] <drown> Word/ActiveExchange are pretty standard in the business world.
[23:26] <mekhami_> yeah. i really have to figure this out.
[23:26] <drown> You wanna game on this I'm assuming?
[23:28] <drown> mekhami_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9585/how-to-setup-a-usb-flash-drive-to-install-windows-7/
[23:28] <drown> I think you may need a windows computer to accomplish this.
[23:28] <mekhami_> yeah
[23:28] <mekhami_> actually i may have one...
[23:29] <drown> The other thing is
[23:29] <drown> on newer computers they use UEFI bootloaders
[23:29] <drown> and that's tricky too and beyond my field of knowledge
[23:29] <mekhami_> this isn't newer thankfully
[23:29] <drown> well then that's a good thing.
[23:30] <_28_ria> I have "initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused", when I run initctl list or "status/start/stop some-service-name". Ubuntu 15.10
[23:34] <dax> _28_ria: sounds like you're looking for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Commands
[23:34] <dax> _28_ria: since Ubuntu 15.10 uses systemd, not upstart, so e.g. initctl won't work
[23:35] <squinty> fwiw, that command still works (initctl list) on 16.04 here
[23:38] <jiffe> so I installed the nvidia digits package for ubuntu 14.04 from their repo, it added a /etc/init/nvidia-digits-server.conf file but when I run service nvidia-digits-server start it says unknown job
[23:40] <captainbreak> how do I make grub not timeout?
[23:40] <captainbreak> GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1
[23:47] <jiffe> or is there a way I can issue service start and get better output as to what the actual problem is?
[23:49] <txspud> jiffe, did you check to see if it's in systemd by chance, i.e. systemctl -a |grep nvidia
[23:50] <jiffe> systemctl: Command not found.
[23:51] <txspud> jiffe, are you on 14.04 or 16.04?
[23:51] <jiffe> 14.04
[23:52] <txspud> jiffe, so the conf file and a service will be different. There's nothing in /etc/init.d for the nvidia package?
[23:52]  * bracketslash hello everyone
[23:52] <jiffe> nothing in /etc/init.d just /etc/init
[23:53] <txspud> jiffe, does dpkg -L tell you anything about binaries or scripts available?
[23:55] <jiffe> a bunch of stuff under /usr/share/digits, /etc/digits.cfg, /etc/nginx and two files under /etc/init
[23:56] <txspud> jiffe what's the other file under /etc/init other than the conf file?
[23:57] <jiffe> another conf file, digits-jobs-dir which has a start on starting nvidia-digits-server line
[23:57] <jiffe> all it looks to do is mkdir and chown some directories
[23:57] <txspud> jiffe and is there an nvidia-digits-server binary on the system?
[23:58] <jiffe> txspud: negative
[23:58] <jiffe> exec stdbuf -oL -eL gunicorn --config gunicorn_config.py digits.webapp:app >>/var/log/digits/digits.log 2>&1
[23:58] <jiffe> that's the exec line in the nvidia-digits-server.conf file