[01:26] <DalekSec> krytarik: `date -R`
[01:33] <krytarik> Hah, yes that too.
[06:50] <sakrecoer> thinking about posting a litle reminder about eminenet release, and add a little call for testing on our social media. would that be a good thing?
[06:51] <sakrecoer> or do we prefer having the test-calls within the devel channels?
[09:42] <zequence> sakrecoer: We have announced testings on our social sites before
[10:08] <sakrecoer> zequence: ok, i'll cook some lines and pastebinit first. i feel its important that it be clear that the test-release is _not_ the release.
[10:10] <zequence> That Thomas guy on the mail list doesn't seem to be used to mail lists. He sent an answer to both me an Jimmy directly, thinking that that was the practice
[10:10] <zequence> ..and maybe thought the mail list is just for information
[10:10] <zequence> sakrecoer: ^
[10:12] <zequence> I redirected him to the IRC channels, as well as encouraging him to keep using the mail list for replies
[10:48] <sakrecoer> :)
[10:50] <sakrecoer> i remember having that problem with gmails webclient: replybto list was a separate button. but that was years ago..
[10:50] <zequence> Oh, yes. Chaning email clients can be disastrous
[10:50] <sakrecoer> *reply to list
[10:50] <zequence> changing*
[10:50] <zequence> We should both be using autospell bots
[10:50] <sakrecoer> *hehe*
[10:51] <sakrecoer> yes :D anyways, glad you helped him out. got a good vibe from his text-tone :)
[13:54] <krytarik> I notice that ~ubuntustudio-dev isn't subscribed to bug mail of -lightdm-theme and -icon-theme (https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+packagebugs) - and the first isn't even listed here for some reason: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+maintained-packages
[13:57] <krytarik> Also, who wants to have the of including this in the changelog?: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/revision/109
[13:57] <krytarik> + favor
[14:06] <OvenWerks> krytarik: For menu changes, I don't think I would list each one so much as just listing menu updates or something like that.
[14:21] <krytarik> OvenWerks: That one fixed LP bug 1549732 though - and the comment generated due to that doesn't reflect it.
[14:24] <krytarik> Not that it'd matter now for the bug report still, but nevertheless.
[14:25] <OvenWerks> Ah, I didn't realize that.
[14:25] <OvenWerks> I thought you were talking about changes in release notes.
[14:26] <krytarik> Ah no, just 'd/changelog' of it.
[14:27] <krytarik> And yes, I noticed afterwards that it might be mistaken as such.
[14:29] <OvenWerks> I don't know if it is best to change the changelog or just manually set the bug to fixed (fix released) With package name and commit number.
[14:30] <OvenWerks> Fixing the changelog requires another upload.
[14:31] <OvenWerks> on the other hand, it would be ok to change the change log and not upload till some other change is made.
[14:32] <OvenWerks> but that would only set it to fix commited.
[14:35] <krytarik> As I indicated, it was already set to 'Fix Released', just without relevant changelog entry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick/+bug/1549732/comments/10 - and yes, I'd not want another upload just for that either.
[15:17] <krytarik> Actually nvm, but that version (0.24) was never actually released, it seems - so we might have to fix that still: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/253311451/ubuntustudio-menu_0.23_0.25.diff.gz
[15:24] <krytarik> Ohai Rosco2!  Regarding your comment on LP bug 1561776: "I wish there was a won't fix status like in Debian" - actually there is. :)
[15:27] <Rosco2> krytarik: Hi. Back from a short holiday and ready to work on the release :-) 
[15:27] <krytarik> \o/
[15:28] <Rosco2> Unfortunately only bug control can do the "won't fix" status
[15:28] <krytarik> Different than in Debian?
[15:28] <Rosco2> Yes - anyone can set any status in debian
[15:29] <Rosco2> causes some ping pong :-)
[15:29] <krytarik> Ah, ok - wouldn't know. :P
[15:32] <krytarik> That is, I did see that at least I can't select it there.
[15:35] <Rosco2> https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control
[15:35] <Rosco2> It's one of the tags you can add
[15:36] <krytarik> I mean on LP - see it in the list, but can't choose it.
[15:36] <Rosco2> Ah - yes
[15:36] <Rosco2> That is what I meant about bug contrrol
[15:36] <Rosco2> Have to be a member of the Bug Control Team
[15:37] <Rosco2> We can prbably select it for our own packages (for the upstream bugs)
[15:41] <krytarik> Indeed - just checked that on LP bug 454082.
[15:44] <autumna> hi, first time ubuntu studio tester here, so apologies if this is a silly question. If there is a bug in one of the display (known on XFCE end) but there is an alternative package that can give that functionality. is it worth reporting or best to just ignore? Thanks. :)
[16:06] <zequence> autumna: If there is a bug, it should be reported, period.
[16:06] <zequence> That's how developers may become aware of them
[16:12] <autumna> ok thanks. just checking.
[17:06] <zequence> Oops. Seems like the selector for lightdm greeter is for language, and not keyboard. Going to check
[17:11] <zequence> Yep. I just assumed it was for keyboard layout. Never seen a drop down for language before
[17:14] <Rosco2> zequence: just doing a fresh install now to check it out
[17:15] <Rosco2> normally clicking through so fast - I forget what it looks like
[17:16] <zequence> Rosco2: I disabled that bug already, after double checking. I didn't even test the keyboard. Just looked at the menu and figured it was for keyboard layout
[17:16] <zequence> Now I did, of course
[17:17] <zequence> The only thing missing from the ISO which will build today is ubiquity artwork. Still waiting for two branches to get merged
[17:17] <zequence> Other than that, think everythings kind of wrapped up now
[17:20] <Rosco2> Yeah - thanks for the announcement too
[17:21] <Rosco2> Will create a Release Note page on the wiki over the weekend ready for input from everyone 
[17:25] <zequence> Rosco2: Yeah, I knew you would probably do an announcement later, or I thought maybe you were waiting for a milestone to appear on the ISO testing tracker. Either way, now felt like a good time to encourage testers to grab an ISO and get a feel for it.
[17:28] <Rosco2> Won't hurt to send another one out once the tracker is set up
[17:50] <zequence> Rosco2: Not at all
[20:20] <sakrecoer> i subscribed ~ubuntstudio-dev to ubuntustudio-icon-theme and ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme bug repports
[20:21] <sakrecoer> Rosco2 and zequence i will echo the call for ISO testing on social media tomorrow. :)
[20:33] <sakrecoer> btw zequence, is the diaporama during install in liveboot uploaded now?? i look forward to see it, which branch is it in again?
[21:02] <zequence> sakrecoer: dioprama?
[21:02] <zequence> The ubiquity changes are not merged yet
[21:02] <zequence> ubiquity is the installer
[21:04] <sakrecoer> zequence: thats the name, i wasn't sure anymore :)
[21:04] <sakrecoer> i have to log off, g'night y'all!