| bluesabre | flocculant: commented again on bug 1513590 and marked invalid for the project. If you agree, we can also mark the Ubuntu report as such. | 00:07 |
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| ubottu | bug 1513590 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "unable to delete items in menulibre" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513590 | 00:07 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: unable to reproduce bug 1515184 | 00:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1515184 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "Crash when selecting a category in a new entry" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515184 | 00:09 |
| bluesabre | maybe somebody else from !team would like to take a peek | 00:09 |
| bluesabre | and that basically leaves thunar | 00:11 |
| bluesabre | and libreoffice | 00:12 |
| bluesabre | two things I am unlikely able to fix :D | 00:12 |
| bluesabre | going to test the existing patches to see if any of those thunar bugs (all really the same bug) are lessened | 00:18 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Oh, I turned on ddebs for one of the PPAs, and disabled skippy-xd. | 00:23 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: ddebs? | 00:24 |
| Unit193 | Automatic -dbg packages called -dbgsym, or something like that. | 00:24 |
| krytarik | bluesabre: Regarding your translations shuffling, that's not necessary: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline | 00:29 |
| bluesabre | ah | 00:38 |
| bluesabre | well, suppose I'll push an xfpanel-switch update then for funsies | 00:38 |
| krytarik | \o/ | 00:41 |
| bluesabre | while trying to recreate the thunar bug... I may have found a new one | 01:12 |
| bluesabre | when will the madness end | 01:12 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:12 |
| drc | When you stop trying to fix things...if debugging is the art of taking out bugs, then coding is the art of putting in bugs :) | 01:14 |
| Unit193 | Craaaap. :P | 01:14 |
| bluesabre | bug 1570153 | 01:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1570153 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Thunar crashes when moving files with SIGSEGV in __GI___libc_free()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1570153 | 01:21 |
| bluesabre | xfpanel-switch uploaded, we'll see what happens next | 01:52 |
| Unit193 | Uploading Virii? | 01:52 |
| bluesabre | >.> | 01:53 |
| bluesabre | that's probably it for uploads... tomorrow final freeze goes into effect (likely before I get home) | 01:58 |
| bluesabre | (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze) | 01:59 |
| bluesabre | maybe we'll figure out thunar before release :) | 02:00 |
| Unit193 | Eh... | 02:00 |
| pavlushka | Hello every one! | 05:07 |
| pavlushka | How can I request to add an keyboard layout to Xubuntu? | 05:07 |
| pavlushka | the alpha 16.04 was supporting it but in beta, its gone. | 05:07 |
| pavlushka | topic 2: echo lines are not there before booting kernel and initrd image in grub, its good to know whats happening so I had to re-edit that. | 05:13 |
| pavlushka | fyi, I use Bengali Jatiya Keyboard Layout. | 05:15 |
| pavlushka | for typing Bengali. | 05:15 |
| pavlushka | http://www.ekushey.org/?page/national_layout | 05:16 |
| pavlushka | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_input_methods | 05:22 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: 1513590 yup mark it invalid for ubuntu too and thanks for having a look at 1515184 too | 06:26 |
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| Reklan | flocc | 10:29 |
| Reklan | flocculant, Tried to reproduce bug 1571053 unable to do so in a VM or on Hardware.. moved the files well over 100 continuously. | 10:30 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 1571053 could not be found | 10:30 |
| Reklan | bug 1570153 that is | 10:31 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1570153 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1570153). The error has been logged | 10:31 |
| Reklan | Thunar crashes when moving files with SIGSEGV in __GI___libc_free() | 10:31 |
| bluesabre | slickymaster: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfpanel-switch/1.0.4-0ubuntu1 | 10:42 |
| bluesabre | knome, flocculant: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/16.04.5 | 10:43 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: nice :) | 11:04 |
| flocculant | Reklan: thanks for checking that | 11:04 |
| flocculant | seems to be one of those thunar sometimes people see it things :( | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: so, if that lands in time for the image, we can kick the duplicate imagemagick entries from the bug list | 11:22 |
| flocculant | yup :) | 11:22 |
| flocculant | I think once we move out of 16.04 we really need to think about thunar | 11:23 |
| flocculant | and you were completely right in -offtopic :p | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | yes | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | :D | 11:24 |
| flocculant | I did have a quick look at caja and nemo (Ithink those are the names) as well as pcmanfm | 11:24 |
| flocculant | mostly to prove my usb3 issue was everywhere - one looked more of a fit to us visually than the others | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | caja and nemo are a bit more polished, definitely | 11:25 |
| flocculant | right | 11:26 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: and that LO theme thing is a bit odd - I did 6 or so yesterday - same thing in all of them | 11:27 |
| flocculant | and was apparently like it for a while - I just missed it - saw it wasn't breeze and thought no more of it | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: yeah, its probably a bug that is actually in libreoffice... it picks randomly from whats available, and galaxy comes with lo | 11:27 |
| flocculant | right | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | there might be something we can do to lock that in the config, but it would probably be ugly | 11:29 |
| flocculant | mmm | 11:29 |
| flocculant | I guess we should think about that though even if it is | 11:29 |
| flocculant | would make it pointless to have elementary at all otherwise | 11:29 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 11:30 |
| flocculant | *though* people could at least use it | 11:30 |
| bluesabre | I can experiment with it | 11:30 |
| flocculant | my fault - should have caught that before | 11:30 |
| bluesabre | its hit and miss, could be most folks are seeing the elementary theme and just a few are not | 11:31 |
| flocculant | could be | 11:32 |
| flocculant | at least you saw something different to me | 11:32 |
| flocculant | anyway - end result is it's *now* and we have it to try and work out lol | 11:32 |
| flocculant | off again now - bbl | 11:33 |
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| Reklan | flocculant, just doing todays iso, as we are nearing the RC, do you want ALL bugs reporting (i.e VM reboot, Ubuntu 1 BMarks etc) or just the newer ones.. i.e Static IP box, and LO elementary theme.. | 12:39 |
| Reklan | nvm didn't see you gone.. will add all of them.. you can always delete them :-) | 12:43 |
| pavlushka | repositories are not working. no ping from repository, mtr tool can trace it with ip!!! | 15:46 |
| pavlushka | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15832837/ | 15:58 |
| PaulW2U | pavlushka: May be a local problem? I've downloaded today's updates using both the "main" and GB settings for the Ubuntu repositories. | 16:07 |
| flocculant | reklan - just in case you read logs: report what you see even if it's old, put it on tracker | 16:34 |
| flocculant | the chance of fixing things diminish rapidly now - but we can put things on release notes so people are aware | 16:34 |
| flocculant | you can report the vbox reboot if you want - that's one I *will* ignore - it has a special status on release notes @LEAVE THIS ONE FOREVER PROBABLY :p | 16:35 |
| knome | bluesabre, saw that, thank | 17:20 |
| knome | +s | 17:20 |
| flocculant | anyone know the mechanism behind being subscribed to a bug | 18:12 |
| flocculant | that is if 'xubuntu bugs' isn't auto subscribed to something here https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs would the person reporting have to physically subscribe someone to it? | 18:12 |
| flocculant | talking launchpad here | 18:13 |
| krytarik | flocculant: Unless the bug report is linked anywhere else, like the QA trackers, or another person/team relevant to the package is subscribed to it, it'd seem yes. | 19:07 |
| flocculant | krytarik: that's what I thought | 19:16 |
| flocculant | and if it's tracker it says so "This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu Package testing tracker." | 19:23 |
| flocculant | but it doesn't actually subscribe you - it just reports to LP if tracker is involved | 19:24 |
| flocculant | so if it's one of our packages we're subscribed to I'd see | 19:24 |
| flocculant | another reason why reports there work :) | 19:25 |
| flocculant | knome: made a couple of minor changes to other mm's | 19:33 |
| knome | flocculant, k | 19:34 |
| knome | going to publish it next | 19:35 |
| knome | flocculant, oh, straight to x.org? nice | 19:35 |
| flocculant | knome: the small details - for after release, things like how do people change the way the power icon shows different options - which is currently a command to add to settings then you can fiddle in settings editor | 19:35 |
| flocculant | just a thought | 19:35 |
| knome | yes, we can do more of them | 19:36 |
| flocculant | knome: yea - when I know it's on x.org I'll do changes there :) | 19:36 |
| knome | pleia2, social media time | 19:36 |
| knome | pleia2, https://xubuntu.org/news/my-media-manager-other-alternatives/ is out and tweeted | 19:37 |
| pleia2 | k | 19:38 |
| flocculant | I do wonder why there's the option to change the wallpaper in seconds | 19:40 |
| flocculant | knome: and checked wallpapers (again I think but nvm:) | 19:41 |
| knome | :D | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | it's on g+ and fb now | 19:43 |
| flocculant | pleia2: thanks :) | 19:43 |
| knome | pleia2, mind pasting the links here so i can forward to those who participated in creating the article? | 19:45 |
| pleia2 | https://www.facebook.com/xubuntuusers/posts/968719729843601 | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | https://plus.google.com/+xubuntu/posts/QxAjnMNk4of | 19:46 |
| knome | thanks | 19:47 |
| pleia2 | no login walls, yay | 19:47 |
| flocculant | :) | 19:47 |
| knome | twitter tells me 54% of our audience buys cheese. | 19:50 |
| knome | and only 49% chocolate candy | 19:50 |
| flocculant | got to be wrong | 19:50 |
| knome | audience being followers | 19:50 |
| davmor2 | knome: so you're saying twitter is full of mice | 19:50 |
| * knome shrugs | 19:51 | |
| knome | no idea | 19:51 |
| flocculant | well | 19:53 |
| flocculant | if 100% of twitter followers ate grass you could use that argument | 19:53 |
| knome | ;) | 19:53 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: no then I'd say they were cows not mice :P | 19:54 |
| knome | or hippied | 19:55 |
| knome | hippies too | 19:55 |
| flocculant | davmor2: or sheep | 19:56 |
| flocculant | not *our* followers in particular you understand | 19:56 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: That would be a better metaphor I guess | 19:56 |
| flocculant | :) | 19:57 |
| davmor2 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkCwFkOZoOY | 19:57 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: ^ | 19:57 |
| flocculant | if that's shawn ... | 20:02 |
| flocculant | phew ... | 20:03 |
| flocculant | think I'll grab someone else's image and hope the suspend/cursor thing is global | 20:22 |
| flocculant | eeny meeny miny mo ... | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | Kubuntu. | 20:23 |
| flocculant | ubuntu | 20:25 |
| flocculant | if it affects ubuntu more chance of it getting fixed :p | 20:26 |
| flocculant | and evening Unit193 :) | 20:29 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 20:29 |
| ochosi | late evening all | 20:47 |
| flocculant | ochosi: evening :) | 20:48 |
| ochosi | uhm, you wanna replace thunar..? | 20:48 |
| flocculant | not this or next week :p | 20:49 |
| ochosi | yeah, obviously | 20:49 |
| ochosi | but even very generally speaking? | 20:49 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: It's got everyone upset that it likes crashing so much. | 20:49 |
| flocculant | if it keeps causing issues like it has been then why not | 20:49 |
| ochosi | yeah, but i guess that's partly due to updates in gvfs | 20:49 |
| ochosi | it used to be quite stable a few releases ago | 20:50 |
| ochosi | and there wasn't any massive thunar development | 20:50 |
| flocculant | well yea maybe gvfs is causing the problems - but I don't see much in the way of people complaining about other file managers which I assume use gvfs as well | 20:50 |
| ochosi | have any of you tried going back to an older thunar version? | 20:50 |
| ochosi | yeah, it might be that other file managers have some gvfs stuff implemented differently, hard to tell, i'm no thunar expert | 20:51 |
| ochosi | i only browsed the source code very superficially | 20:51 |
| ochosi | still, i'd think it's worth trying to figure out what's wrong with it | 20:51 |
| flocculant | of course | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Though doesn't matter if it is gvfs that causes it, still crashing. If you have a 50/50 chance, yeah that's not good. Personally yes I'd like to keep thunar, though it'd need fixed. | 20:52 |
| flocculant | ochosi: just ftr it's not just me :) | 20:54 |
| Nairwolf | hi ;) | 20:54 |
| Nairwolf | Do you remember what I said yesterday about 13 April daily ? The theme of nm-applet was weird, and it was difficult to distinguish power level of Wi-Fi signals | 20:55 |
| ochosi | yup | 20:56 |
| Nairwolf | I've tested with a reclean install, and it's the same bug... | 20:56 |
| ochosi | odd | 20:56 |
| ochosi | i thought flocculant also tested with a clean install | 20:56 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: though it could be your eyes | 20:56 |
| flocculant | ochosi: I did | 20:56 |
| flocculant | eg - while you might not find them very distinct difference others do | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | Eyes, monitor, video drivers, etc? :P | 20:57 |
| flocculant | yea | 20:57 |
| Nairwolf | let me send you the imgur link | 20:58 |
| Nairwolf | look this : https://imgur.com/eDtA2Qm | 20:58 |
| Nairwolf | look nm-apple wifi signals | 20:58 |
| ochosi | right | 20:58 |
| ochosi | those are fine | 20:58 |
| ochosi | apart from XIXI all your wifis have bad signal -> not our fault! | 20:59 |
| ochosi | ;) | 20:59 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:59 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: unless you're talking about the lock icon | 20:59 |
| ochosi | yeah, still not sure why the lock icon is white | 20:59 |
| ochosi | shouldn't be the case and isn't in 15.10 | 20:59 |
| Nairwolf | what is the lock icon ? | 21:00 |
| Nairwolf | ochosi: yes most of my wifis have bad signal, but I've found coulors make it difficult to distinguish low level and high level | 21:01 |
| Nairwolf | Maybe it was like that in 15.10 before | 21:01 |
| Nairwolf | Didn't notice | 21:01 |
| Nairwolf | I'm sorry, I am not able to test more the daily tonight... | 21:07 |
| ochosi | humm, i think i might've found the root cause of the light lock icon... | 21:08 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: no need for apologies :) | 21:11 |
| flocculant | ochosi: someone seeded eraser? | 21:13 |
| ochosi | i wonder though whether we'll be able to test the fix in time | 21:15 |
| ochosi | even more so whether we'll be able to get it into the image, even though it's a trivial one (if it works) | 21:15 |
| flocculant | ochosi: well if we can get it on a ppa we can test it | 21:16 |
| flocculant | whether we can get it landed is another thing | 21:16 |
| ochosi | it'll automatically land in the shimmer daily PPA | 21:17 |
| Unit193 | With the nasty versioning. :3 | 21:17 |
| flocculant | ochosi: ok - I'll set the laptop up to that daily then and check tomorrow if someone reminds me - and I'm sure Nairwolf would if asked ;) | 21:18 |
| ochosi | i just requested a build there, so whenever that one is done (it estimates ~12mins) you can upgrade and test | 21:18 |
| flocculant | if I'm still kicking tonight I'll have a look | 21:19 |
| ochosi | now it says 2mins | 21:19 |
| ochosi | in case that motivates you ;) | 21:19 |
| flocculant | :) | 21:19 |
| ochosi | already building | 21:19 |
| flocculant | atm I'm just trying somethings with this cursor missing on suspend issue | 21:20 |
| flocculant | and *think* possibly found something else ... | 21:20 |
| slickymaster | great bluesabre. Thanks | 21:24 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: bug 1568604 I just checked one of the comments from https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815135 | 21:25 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 815135 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "No cursor displayed" [Normal,Open] | 21:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1568604 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "xubuntu 16.04 beta loses mouse cursor when returning from sleep" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1568604 | 21:25 |
| flocculant | change to vt1 then back to vt7 and cursor comes back, also I http://askubuntu.com/questions/504307/ubuntu-14-04-changing-intel-graphics-driver-configurations > anyname.conf and change sna to uxa - cursor works after suspend | 21:26 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: thunar development sped up after 1.6.3, with lots of contributors and accepted patches... things also started breaking at that point | 21:27 |
| flocculant | oh hey bluesabre :) | 21:28 |
| bluesabre | hey flocculant | 21:29 |
| flocculant | ochosi: here? https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily?field.series_filter=xenial | 21:29 |
| bluesabre | bbiab | 21:29 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I'll be gone I expect - I'm pretty sure that the LP cursor bug can upstream to that debian one - but not confident enough to add it :p | 21:30 |
| ochosi | flocculant: yup | 21:32 |
| ochosi | this is the build https://code.launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily/+recipebuild/1118237 | 21:33 |
| ochosi | sorry, gotta go take care of the little one | 21:33 |
| flocculant | ok - just not showing up yet | 21:33 |
| flocculant | ochosi: s'ok :) | 21:33 |
| ochosi | if it helps, maybe sean can pull in the changes to xubuntu-artwork and release/upload a new version | 21:34 |
| ochosi | if it doesn't, i'll try to fix it on the weekend | 21:34 |
| ochosi | gotta run, night everyone! | 21:34 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: yeah, true, maybe i gotta talk to hjudt | 21:34 |
| ochosi | -> | 21:34 |
| flocculant | ochosi: night :) | 21:35 |
| flocculant | I'll check the icon theme in the morning ... | 21:53 |
| flocculant | night all | 21:53 |
| slickymaster | night flocculant | 21:54 |
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