| krytarik | tsimonq2, phillw: As to why the alternate images are oversized as of late, fonts-noto-cjk is to blame as usual :P - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.xenial/revision/320 | 02:10 |
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| tsimonq2 | krytarik: thank you for looking into this :) | 02:11 |
| tsimonq2 | krytarik: next time please also ping wxl ;) | 02:11 |
| krytarik | Well, I only saw you two discussing this on the ML. | 02:12 |
| krytarik | But thanks for doing that for me now. :P | 02:12 |
| tsimonq2 | krytarik: he *just* went home for the night | 02:14 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 02:14 |
| tsimonq2 | krytarik: or respond on the ML thread :) | 02:14 |
| ianorlin | phillw no respins occured today | 05:50 |
| ianorlin | I might be the only one awake now | 05:50 |
| phillw | ianorlin: okies, afaik the cron is not turned off, so they should kick in about 17:00 UTC | 10:59 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: if it is the lang-packs, then Julien has already resolved it :) | 11:00 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: I read the ML :) | 11:29 |
| phillw | and now, we wait :) | 11:29 |
| tsimonq2 | indeed ;) | 12:05 |
| teward | who does the RPi images here | 13:38 |
| teward | crit-level issue | 13:38 |
| teward | flexiondotorg: ping | 13:40 |
| teward | urgent ping, rather | 13:40 |
| flexiondotorg | o/ | 13:40 |
| teward | flexiondotorg: same issue affecting MATE Rpi image, affects Lubuntu RPi image | 13:40 |
| teward | 'cept I can't file the bug | 13:40 |
| flexiondotorg | I pulled down the 15.10 download links. | 13:40 |
| teward | do you do the Lubuntu RPi image or do you know who does? | 13:41 |
| teward | ok | 13:41 |
| teward | flexiondotorg: phillw asked me to verify the Lubuntu image as well | 13:41 |
| teward | and it has the same issue :) | 13:41 |
| teward | 16.04's unaffected | 13:41 |
| teward | just 15.10 | 13:41 |
| flexiondotorg | I've committed a for for 16.04. | 13:41 |
| teward | ok | 13:41 |
| flexiondotorg | Only 2 files have the wrong perms in the 16.04 images. | 13:41 |
| teward | flexiondotorg: ack, thanks for poking. wanted to make sure, though, you're aware that I did test this on the Lubuntu, 'cuase phillw said he couldn't find the issue, but it does exist on the copy on his mirror :p | 13:42 |
| teward | thanks | 13:42 |
| flexiondotorg | teward, Thanks for reporting it :-) | 13:43 |
| phillw | good that it is in progress :) | 13:44 |
| teward | flexiondotorg: you said you pulled the ISOs, does that mean for Lubuntu as well? | 16:14 |
| teward | phillw: ^ suggest waiting for new ones | 16:14 |
| teward | rather than leave the bad ones | 16:14 |
| teward | s/ISOs/images/ | 16:14 |
| phillw | I'd wait for RC for 16.04 images. For 15.10, the released images should be fine. | 16:16 |
| teward | the RPi images for Lubuntu have a blaring security hole | 16:18 |
| flexiondotorg | Is it worth going for RC 16.04 images or just go with release images on the 21st? | 16:18 |
| teward | /lib has incorrect ownership, and bad permissions -same as the MATE 15.10 images | 16:18 |
| phillw | flexiondotorg: they are worth spinning up. we can test them. | 16:19 |
| phillw | I'm happy to do them between other tests | 16:19 |
| flexiondotorg | phillw, I'll make a Lubuntu 16.04-rc this weekend and sync it to you server. | 16:19 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll ping you here when it's ready. | 16:20 |
| flexiondotorg | Sound OK? | 16:20 |
| phillw | sounds like a plan :) The RC's should be out Sat latests. | 16:20 |
| flexiondotorg | I just focus on Lubuntu RC. | 16:21 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll try and get it to you tonight. | 16:21 |
| flexiondotorg | We have an internal Ubuntu MATE RC. | 16:21 |
| phillw | we're just waiting for cron to spin today's iso's - once that is done - go for it :) | 16:22 |
| flexiondotorg | The only reason for making the Ubuntu MATE rc is becauce we've removed stuff we used to ship. | 16:22 |
| phillw | well, at this late stage, and rc for lubuntu should be pretty much what will ship on 21st | 16:24 |
| phillw | s/and/an/ | 16:25 |
| phillw | julien has only hacked the alternate image.. the desktop has been left pretty much untouched. | 16:27 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: ping | 17:57 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: what up? | 17:57 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: confirm http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-16-04-release-candidate/ ? | 17:57 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Lubuntu 16.04 LTS will be delayed? | 17:58 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: that only discusses the release candidate | 17:58 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: which is to say the final testing image | 17:58 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: but release candidates aren't official milestones, are they? | 17:59 |
| wxl | well :/ | 17:59 |
| tsimonq2 | like Beta * and Alpha * | 17:59 |
| wxl | i guess yes | 17:59 |
| wxl | think about it like this: | 17:59 |
| wxl | the tuesday before the release of beta 1 on thursday an image is frozen | 17:59 |
| wxl | that frozen image is the testing image for beta 1 | 17:59 |
| wxl | the image may change over time, but ultimately, some variation of it will get frozen and released on beta 1 | 18:00 |
| tsimonq2 | alright | 18:00 |
| wxl | so | 18:01 |
| wxl | we tend to think of milestones as the actual release | 18:01 |
| tsimonq2 | but then if it's just a candidate, why make an announcement? I'm not understanding that... | 18:01 |
| tsimonq2 | but the actual release won | 18:01 |
| wxl | but there is a frozen image that should be announced | 18:01 |
| tsimonq2 | *won't be delayed? | 18:01 |
| wxl | because that is the key to start testing | 18:01 |
| tsimonq2 | I see | 18:01 |
| tsimonq2 | makes sense | 18:01 |
| tsimonq2 | sorry :) | 18:01 |
| phillw | wxl: tsimonq2 alternates are still over size... I've just put it on the ML for Julien. | 18:02 |
| wxl | according to release team, rc's start after final freeze, but that doesn't mean that it will be immediately after | 18:02 |
| wxl | and ultimately, rc's should not be the sign to start testing | 18:03 |
| wxl | that should be the sign to start testing more vigorously | 18:03 |
| wxl | we should ALWAYS be testing dailies | 18:03 |
| wxl | however some contributors only want to bother when they have rc's | 18:03 |
| tsimonq2 | I see, makes sense | 18:04 |
| ianorlin | sooner we find the bugs the more time to fix them | 18:07 |
| wxl | what ianorlin said | 18:08 |
| wxl | we're having a dsicussion on #ubuntu-release about getting rid of the whole idea of rc's | 18:08 |
| wxl | because really no image is "released" | 18:08 |
| wxl | it's just frozen | 18:08 |
| ianorlin | I still would want dailies to be easier to track when the last one has been tested though so a testcase doesn't go a month with no one testing it and we get bad coverage | 18:11 |
| wxl | ianorlin: write a bug against the tracker! | 18:12 |
| ianorlin | wxl I did | 18:12 |
| ianorlin | bug 1543871 | 18:13 |
| ubot93 | bug 1543871 in Ubuntu QA Website " iso tracker hard to find last time a daily build was tested " [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1543871 | 18:13 |
| wxl | ianorlin: oh! did i confirm it? | 18:13 |
| wxl | no i didn't | 18:13 |
| wxl | i'll get on that | 18:13 |
| ianorlin | wxl yes I don't see no rc's working well without that | 18:19 |
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| phillw | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/pending/ :( | 22:12 |
| wxl | !rc | 22:13 |
| wxl | aigh | 22:13 |
| wxl | well ubottu knows it | 22:13 |
| phillw | wxl: this is after Julien stripping out the lang packs, that we had hoped would bring it in on size | 22:14 |
| phillw | some thing after beta1 blew up in size.... | 22:15 |
| phillw | wxl: but, I have proven the backup plan today if we cannot ship an image CD sized that can handle RAID etc. | 22:18 |
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