[02:10] tsimonq2, phillw: As to why the alternate images are oversized as of late, fonts-noto-cjk is to blame as usual :P - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.xenial/revision/320 [02:11] krytarik: thank you for looking into this :) [02:11] krytarik: next time please also ping wxl ;) [02:12] Well, I only saw you two discussing this on the ML. [02:12] But thanks for doing that for me now. :P [02:14] krytarik: he *just* went home for the night [02:14] :P [02:14] krytarik: or respond on the ML thread :) [05:50] phillw no respins occured today [05:50] I might be the only one awake now [10:59] ianorlin: okies, afaik the cron is not turned off, so they should kick in about 17:00 UTC [11:00] tsimonq2: if it is the lang-packs, then Julien has already resolved it :) [11:29] phillw: I read the ML :) [11:29] and now, we wait :) [12:05] indeed ;) [13:38] who does the RPi images here [13:38] crit-level issue [13:40] flexiondotorg: ping [13:40] urgent ping, rather [13:40] o/ [13:40] flexiondotorg: same issue affecting MATE Rpi image, affects Lubuntu RPi image [13:40] 'cept I can't file the bug [13:40] I pulled down the 15.10 download links. [13:41] do you do the Lubuntu RPi image or do you know who does? [13:41] ok [13:41] flexiondotorg: phillw asked me to verify the Lubuntu image as well [13:41] and it has the same issue :) [13:41] 16.04's unaffected [13:41] just 15.10 [13:41] I've committed a for for 16.04. [13:41] ok [13:41] Only 2 files have the wrong perms in the 16.04 images. [13:42] flexiondotorg: ack, thanks for poking. wanted to make sure, though, you're aware that I did test this on the Lubuntu, 'cuase phillw said he couldn't find the issue, but it does exist on the copy on his mirror :p [13:42] thanks [13:43] teward, Thanks for reporting it :-) [13:44] good that it is in progress :) [16:14] flexiondotorg: you said you pulled the ISOs, does that mean for Lubuntu as well? [16:14] phillw: ^ suggest waiting for new ones [16:14] rather than leave the bad ones [16:14] s/ISOs/images/ [16:16] I'd wait for RC for 16.04 images. For 15.10, the released images should be fine. [16:18] the RPi images for Lubuntu have a blaring security hole [16:18] Is it worth going for RC 16.04 images or just go with release images on the 21st? [16:18] /lib has incorrect ownership, and bad permissions -same as the MATE 15.10 images [16:19] flexiondotorg: they are worth spinning up. we can test them. [16:19] I'm happy to do them between other tests [16:19] phillw, I'll make a Lubuntu 16.04-rc this weekend and sync it to you server. [16:20] I'll ping you here when it's ready. [16:20] Sound OK? [16:20] sounds like a plan :) The RC's should be out Sat latests. [16:21] I just focus on Lubuntu RC. [16:21] I'll try and get it to you tonight. [16:21] We have an internal Ubuntu MATE RC. [16:22] we're just waiting for cron to spin today's iso's - once that is done - go for it :) [16:22] The only reason for making the Ubuntu MATE rc is becauce we've removed stuff we used to ship. [16:24] well, at this late stage, and rc for lubuntu should be pretty much what will ship on 21st [16:25] s/and/an/ [16:27] julien has only hacked the alternate image.. the desktop has been left pretty much untouched. [17:57] wxl: ping [17:57] tsimonq2: what up? [17:57] wxl: confirm http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-16-04-release-candidate/ ? [17:58] wxl: Lubuntu 16.04 LTS will be delayed? [17:58] tsimonq2: that only discusses the release candidate [17:58] tsimonq2: which is to say the final testing image [17:59] wxl: but release candidates aren't official milestones, are they? [17:59] well :/ [17:59] like Beta * and Alpha * [17:59] i guess yes [17:59] think about it like this: [17:59] the tuesday before the release of beta 1 on thursday an image is frozen [17:59] that frozen image is the testing image for beta 1 [18:00] the image may change over time, but ultimately, some variation of it will get frozen and released on beta 1 [18:00] alright [18:01] so [18:01] we tend to think of milestones as the actual release [18:01] but then if it's just a candidate, why make an announcement? I'm not understanding that... [18:01] but the actual release won [18:01] but there is a frozen image that should be announced [18:01] *won't be delayed? [18:01] because that is the key to start testing [18:01] I see [18:01] makes sense [18:01] sorry :) [18:02] wxl: tsimonq2 alternates are still over size... I've just put it on the ML for Julien. [18:02] according to release team, rc's start after final freeze, but that doesn't mean that it will be immediately after [18:03] and ultimately, rc's should not be the sign to start testing [18:03] that should be the sign to start testing more vigorously [18:03] we should ALWAYS be testing dailies [18:03] however some contributors only want to bother when they have rc's [18:04] I see, makes sense [18:07] sooner we find the bugs the more time to fix them [18:08] what ianorlin said [18:08] we're having a dsicussion on #ubuntu-release about getting rid of the whole idea of rc's [18:08] because really no image is "released" [18:08] it's just frozen [18:11] I still would want dailies to be easier to track when the last one has been tested though so a testcase doesn't go a month with no one testing it and we get bad coverage [18:12] ianorlin: write a bug against the tracker! [18:12] wxl I did [18:13] bug 1543871 [18:13] bug 1543871 in Ubuntu QA Website " iso tracker hard to find last time a daily build was tested " [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1543871 [18:13] ianorlin: oh! did i confirm it? [18:13] no i didn't [18:13] i'll get on that [18:19] wxl yes I don't see no rc's working well without that === gsilva is now known as gsilvapt [22:12] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/pending/ :( [22:13] !rc [22:13] aigh [22:13] well ubottu knows it [22:14] wxl: this is after Julien stripping out the lang packs, that we had hoped would bring it in on size [22:15] some thing after beta1 blew up in size.... [22:18] wxl: but, I have proven the backup plan today if we cannot ship an image CD sized that can handle RAID etc.