[00:28] <ubuntu298> Is the RC out yet?
[00:30] <krabador> ubuntu298, daily build of today/tomorrow, in fact, is.
[00:33] <ubuntu298> Thank you.
[00:37] <ihaveaquestion> I'm about to upgrade, did a RC get released today? Or should I install from Beta 2? Daily? Thanks!
[00:38] <Oderus> hi. just curious where i could find the directory for the window decorations?
[00:40] <squinty> ihaveaquestion,  either   just  apt full-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade and it will be current.
[00:42] <ihaveaquestion> suinty, planning on doing a fresh install
[00:43] <squinty> ihaveaquestion,  yes but after installing, then use the above commands to bring your system up to date till final release and it will be compatible with final release
[00:43] <ihaveaquestion> thanks
[00:44] <Oderus> i always just do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:44] <squinty> ihaveaquestion,  been running since beta 1 here and updates are still being pushed.  at this end of things it seems pretty well stable
[00:44] <squinty> Oderus,  yes either apt or apt-get syntax will work
[02:01] <jaddison> Has anyone here started up an ec2 instance using Xenial images?
[02:01] <jaddison> I've been seeing locale issues
[02:01] <jaddison> Not sure where to look for related bug reports (not sure if it's ec2 specific or not)
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-is-now-in-final-freeze-launches-april-21-2016-502984.shtml
[04:50] <CarlFK> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/
[04:51] <CarlFK> linux13-Apr-2016
[04:51] <CarlFK> I boot, I get though base install and see "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."
[04:52] <CarlFK> anyone know if the kernel got updated in the last 24 hours or so?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> lemme update holdon
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: xenial is on final freeze atm
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[04:57] <CarlFK> hmm, digging in the logs... Apr 15 04:47:52 base-installer: info: Found kernels ''
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: holdon its still updating
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> will do a dist-upgrade right after
[04:58] <CarlFK> lotuspsychje: ah, so this will be fixed soon?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: not sure, im updating to see if new kernel
[04:59] <CarlFK> k
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> new firefox already :p
[05:01] <CarlFK> um.. the date format on apache's index just flipped around...
[05:01] <CarlFK> linux2016-04-13
[05:02] <CarlFK> oh, does archive.ubuntu.com hit different boxes?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TBOOK:~$ uname -a
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Linux R00TBOOK 4.4.0-18-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 6 14:01:02 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> same kernel so it seems
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> but big update this morning
[05:50] <CarlFK> lotuspsychje: should I be trying to debug this, or just wait 12 hours and see if everything gets lined up on its own?
[06:06] <CarlFK> lotuspsychje: sorry, I fell off the net.
[06:06] <CarlFK> should I look into this, or wait 12 hours for mirrors to sync up?
[06:09] <CarlFK> hmm... 1am.. I think I will sleep for 8 hours and see what happens when I wake up
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: not sure mate sorry
[06:10] <CarlFK> lotuspsychje: no prob - thanks for the peeks
[07:17] <quall__> Hello everybody. I have installed yesterday's beta on a Dell computer with AMD Radeon(TM) R5 M335. I have "radeon" listed in lsmod but I can't tell if my GPU is working! If I run radeontop, it says "Can't find Radeon cards"
[07:18] <Oderus> how does one go about creating a window theme in kubuntu 16.04?
[07:44] <Ian_Corne> quall__: can you run glxinfo | grep direct ?
[07:46] <quall__> Ian_Corne: direct rendering: Yes
[07:46] <quall__>     GL_ARB_direct_state_access, GL_ARB_draw_buffers,
[07:46] <quall__>     GL_ARB_draw_indirect, GL_ARB_draw_instanced,
[07:46] <quall__>     GL_ARB_map_buffer_range, GL_ARB_multi_bind, GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect,
[07:50] <Ian_Corne> !paste | quall__
[07:50] <Ian_Corne> :-)
[07:50] <Ian_Corne> Ok, that's all I know, that's how I check if my driver is loaded properly
[07:55] <quall__> Ian_Corne: sorry I thought that four lines werent worth a pastebin :) However, unfortunately I don't still understand if my output refers to the integrated Intel card or to the ATI Radeon one!
[08:02] <Ian_Corne> Aha, that's true :)
[08:04] <quall__> (ehm when I say ATI I mean AMD)
[08:11] <solsTiCe> hi. So I changed my wifi passphrase and when nm-applet start it craches (core-dump) because it is not able to ask for the new passphrase. on 16.04
[08:12] <solsTiCe> http://pastebin.com/5Mh9rRKU
[08:12] <solsTiCe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1570738
[08:39] <slackho> cant find it where is it?
[08:40] <slackho> is this the release candidate ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:22] <solsTiCe> hi. It's the second time I got a complete freeze with 16.04. Couldn't even go to console. Nothing in the log. It's not kernel panic because shit lock led was not blinking. But definvtly something serious related to kernel. that disapointing for a future LTS release.
[10:28] <n0cturnal> Solstice are you complaining or asking for assistance?
[10:34] <solsTiCe> I am complaining. Assistance in what ? finding where it comes from ? I am looking at the logs but nothing yet ...
[10:42] <quall__> as I'm experiencing buggy behaviour with a driver shipped with downstream kernel on 16.04 (radeon), I want to run ubuntu-bug linux to file my bug. But ubuntu-bug doesn't work itself!!
[10:50] <lotuspsychje_> solsTiCe: beta2? daily? clean install? upgrade? graphics card chipset? driver loaded?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: errors on ubuntu-bug?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje_> hey BluesKaj
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje_
[10:52] <quall__> lotuspsychje_: so ubuntu-buc correctly creates the report locally, then opens a blank browser page and doesn't load launchpad
[10:52] <quall__> it shows this warning: /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:16: PyGIWarning: Wnck was imported without specifying a version first. Use gi.require_version('Wnck', '3.0') before import to ensure that the right version gets loaded.
[10:52] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: did you login to launchpad?
[10:52] <quall__> yes
[10:53] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: firefox?
[10:53] <quall__> chromium
[10:53] <quall__> I wanted to try firefox but man apport-bug doesn't say the option to change browser
[10:53] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: can you try firefox perhaps as default browser?
[10:54] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: changing default browsers, in settings of the browser itself
[10:55] <quall__> ok, i'm doing it now
[10:56] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: your on beta or daily?
[10:56] <quall__> ok, it works fine with firefox. Since I think that it's not ok that chromium won't work with apport, should I file this other thing as a apport or chromium bug?
[10:56] <quall__> yesterday's daily, kept updated/upgraded
[10:57] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: ok wich graphics card chipset you have?
[10:57] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: ill investigate the chromium bug first holdon
[10:58] <quall__> lotuspsychje_: I'm using AMD Radeon(TM) R5 M335 4GB DDR3 GPU
[10:58] <quall__> I'm filing the bug now
[10:58] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: ok tnx
[11:05] <lotuspsychje_> quall__: is it an about:blank you getting on chromium?
[11:09] <quall__> lotuspsychje_: let me check
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> quall__: cant find any related bugs specific to ubuntu-bug filing
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> quall__: but many about:blank bugs in chromium trying other things
[11:10] <quall__> oh I see
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> quall__: perhaps, you can also file that bug :p
[11:12] <quall__> lotuspsychje: actually I only get a blank new window (displaying the "frequently vidited" page)
[11:12] <quall__> I think I'll file it as well, yes
[11:12] <quall__> by the way, this is the other one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1570802
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> quall__: also mention, it works on firefox ok
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> quall__: ill have a look
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> quall__: nice description mate
[11:14] <quall__> lotuspsychje: thanks :) I can't help coding but at least I try to help with reports
[11:21] <quall__> lotuspsychje: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1570806
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> quall__: nice :p
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> quall__: and ass fglrx will be depraced, we stuck to radeon now
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> quall__: radeon working good for me, but on an old ati x800
[11:26] <quall__> lotuspsychje: consider this: I've bought a new computer mostly for making graphics, I excitedly installed Ubuntu 16.04 yesterday and fired up Blender, now I'm spending my day on launchpad :(
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> quall__: i understand, but we still in development phase right, 1 week to go
[11:27] <quall__> Again for your information: this is the only pther problem that I encounter http://askubuntu.com/questions/757583/integrated-webcam-not-recognized-in-dell-inspiron-5000-series-laptop-ubuntu-16
[11:28] <quall__> going to lunch, see you and thank you!
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> quall__: cheese not seeing the cam?
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> kk
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> bon apetit
[11:28] <quall__> (neither cheese nor camorama or even listing in /dev/videosomething...)
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> ok
[11:52] <sruli> is secureboot implemented in 16.04? will it warn user if a unsigned kernel is loaded?
[12:20] <snadge> i cant figure out how to give guest access to a windows 10 with samba.. im getting access denied
[12:20] <snadge> even though i've set the share to allow guest access.. sigh
[12:21] <BluesKaj> sruli, secure boot is a setting in your uefi/bios, don't think 16.04 has much to do with it
[12:21] <BluesKaj>  I get this warning when doing updates: "AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors." It doesn't seem to affect the upgrades tho.
[12:21] <snadge> has samba been broken?
[12:22] <snadge> or is it a pebkac issue
[12:22] <sruli> BluesKaj: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532 clearly GRUB allows unsigned kernels to boot
[12:23] <sruli> but it also states this might be changed in 16.04, so question is, will it be changed and it it is changed what will stop an attacker from booting a malicious kernel using 14.04
[12:23] <solsTiCe> lotuspsychje: I installed the beta2 and updated daily since using intel 4400 I think using also bcmwl-kernek-source
[12:24] <BluesKaj> sruli, so don't use an unsigned kernel, this a dev OS after all
[12:25] <solsTiCe> pdfedit is not in the repo anymore ?
[12:25] <sruli> BluesKaj: i am not using an unsinged kernel, i am trying to secure against an attacker messing with the bootloader which secure boot is supposed to do
[12:28] <BluesKaj> sruli,  well perhaps you should raise this issue with the people at #ubuntu-devel
[12:47] <qualll_> uhm I didn't realize I was disconnected. If anybody has answered my previous self, please ping me again thank you!
[13:12] <qualll_> Oh, checked the logs: my previous message didn't even get through! I'm writing it again. Do you have any idea on why I don't have any /dev/videoX device, even if my computer has an integrated camera? There's no hardware switch, afaik, and it is enabled by bios.
[13:13] <qualll_> In case you can't help me, is it considered a bug? Can I file it? against which package? the kernel?
[13:33] <aredpanda`w> Are there any changes between the RC released yesterday and the finalrelease iso that will be made available on the 21st?
[13:33] <brainwash> !final
[14:00] <Ian_Corne> it's not apt-get and dist-upgrade anymore?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> Ian_Corne: to do what
[14:01] <jaddison> Has anyone here started up an ec2 instance using Xenial images?
[14:01] <jaddison> I've been seeing locale issues
[14:01] <jaddison> Not sure where to look for related bug reports (not sure if it's ec2 specific or not)
[14:02] <Ian_Corne> to upgrade :)
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> Ian_Corne: upgrade wich to wich
[14:03] <Pici> Ian_Corne: that still works. 'apt' is just a newer tool.
[14:03] <Ian_Corne> just inside the same version, to get the latest packages
[14:03] <Ian_Corne> aha :)
[14:03] <Pici> it has nicer progress bars ;)
[14:03] <Ian_Corne> is it smarten then apt-get?
[14:03] <Pici> I'm not really sure.
[14:06] <Ian_Corne> apt is for users, apt-get is for scripts and computers :)
[14:06] <Ian_Corne> apparently
[14:07] <Ian_Corne> full-upgrade: a more meaningful name for dist-upgrade.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> full-dist-upgrade  would
[14:26] <virtuosoj> So Thunderbird 45 got released... how can I install this in Ubuntu?  Or should I stay away?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> !info thunderbird
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> !latest | virtuosoj
[14:43] <CarlFK> what is the command to upgrade wily to xenial?
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: but perhaps wait until final?
[14:45] <CarlFK> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[14:45] <CarlFK> No new release found
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: sudo apt-get update first?
[14:46] <CarlFK> test box.. trying to see if an app will work
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:46] <CarlFK> No new release found
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[14:46] <CarlFK> don't I need something to force a un-released ver?
[14:46] <CarlFK> --devel-release  lets try..
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> -d should go to a development version
[14:46] <CarlFK> oh, thats -d
[14:47] <CarlFK> Description:    Ubuntu 15.10
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: uname -a ?
[14:47] <CarlFK> (wanted to make sure I handed installed 16.4 already
[14:47] <CarlFK> Linux cnt1 4.2.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 8 15:35:06 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic wily
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade perhaps?
[14:48] <CarlFK> The following packages will be upgraded:
[14:48] <CarlFK>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> can try a do-release-upgrade -d after kernel upgrades
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> lets hope it works :p
[14:51] <CarlFK> No new release found
[14:51] <CarlFK> rebooting...
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:53] <CarlFK> No new release found
[14:58] <CarlFK> bbl
[15:52] <cliffer> hi im using ubuntu 16.04 and ppa:ondrej/php to install php5.6 AND php7. once i add the ppa, it shows me that an update to openssl is available. im not feeling comfortable to update openssl from non standard repositories, is there any way to restrict the additional source to some packages?
[15:52] <cliffer> or is it "trust all or nothing"?
[15:52] <cliffer> or is the question stupid and im paranoid?
[15:54] <cliffer> and why does this repo claim to have a newer version of openssl than the official repos?
[15:55] <brainwash> you should contact the ppa maintainer
[15:56] <brainwash> the ppa has version 1.0.2g-1+deb.sury.org~xenial+1
[15:57] <brainwash> and version 1.0.2g-1ubuntu3 is in the official repo
[15:58] <nacc> cliffer: might be deps for something else in the ppa, or to be self-consistent in some way
[15:58] <nacc> cliffer: as mentioned, you might contact the ppa owner
[15:58] <nacc> cliffer: or you might be able to achive what you're asking by pinning
[15:58] <nacc> but then not only are you not supported by ubuntu, but you might not be supported by the ppa owner :)
[15:59] <cliffer> nacc: i dont know pinning, let me search it
[15:59] <brainwash> cliffer: man apt_preferences
[16:03] <cliffer> nacc: pinning seems what i want.
[16:04] <cliffer> probably, openssl etc is there because the ppa can be used also in older ubuntu versions
[16:04] <cliffer> and the dependencies would not be met if openssl isnt included in a newer version
[16:05] <brainwash> it's possible that the owner has packaged this version before it hit the official repo
[16:05] <brainwash> for xenial
[16:06] <nacc> cliffer: note that i'm only saying that's how you do what you want, not that it's recommended to pick & choose packages, etc :)
[16:07] <cliffer> nacc: i understand you (thx), but the official recommendation seems to "dont use php5" and that is no option
[16:08] <cliffer> nacc: so is there any better choice except using the ppa and pick only two/three packages from it?
[16:08] <cliffer> it even seems better than compiling it by myself
[16:10] <nacc> cliffer: there is an alternative
[16:10] <nacc> i'm hopefully going to find some time to write it up
[16:10] <nacc> but run trusty in a container/VM
[16:10] <nacc> and port bind it appropriately
[16:11] <cliffer> like the ubuntu cloud hypervisor?
[16:12] <cliffer> but running another machine (vm or not) is always an option
[16:12] <nacc> lxd + adapt make it really trivial (or should :)
[16:12] <nacc> cliffer: do you have some code using php5 specifically? that can't be ported?
[16:14] <cliffer> i want to use a software which isnt written by myself and which is not ported yet: phamm (http://www.phamm.org/)
[16:15] <cliffer> the only reason i want to use it is that i cant figure out how to create an ldap structure that enables the management of mail addresses and domains for postfix, dovecot and bind
[16:17] <cliffer> and no, i dont tried to port it yet :)
[16:18] <nacc> cliffer: well, phamm is in universe, it may or may not work -- did you try it?
[16:18] <nacc> cliffer: afaict, it's mostly php code, which is mostly BC
[16:18] <cliffer> bc?
[16:18] <nacc> cliffer: fwiw, i worked the php7.0 transition in 16.04, so i'm interested in helping you out
[16:18] <nacc> cliffer: backwards-compaible
[16:19] <nacc> cliffer: a lot of the php7.0 breaks were in the C code for extensions
[16:20] <cliffer> i tried it on php7 but i just remember "dont work"
[16:20] <cliffer> let me try it again and report back
[16:20] <nacc> heh
[16:20] <nacc> cliffer: ack, and file a bug and i'll see if i can help debug at least
[16:21] <cliffer> file a bug? where?
[16:21] <cliffer> the official site states that php5 is required so a bug there is probably not right
[16:21] <nacc> launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phamm) if something doesn't work
[16:30] <cliffer> nacc: i get the error PHP message: PHP Warning:  ldap_search(): Search: Invalid DN syntax. i havent figured out, but could also be a configuration issue
[16:31] <cliffer> nacc: furthermore i get "PHP message: PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught Error: Call to undefined function eregi()" which is related to php7 so i will report it
[16:31] <nacc> cliffer: ack, latter should be replaced with preg_match + i modifier
[16:32] <nacc> cliffer: former is probably a configuration issue
[16:34] <cliffer> nacc: is there any chance of helping me with the former if i can provide root access to the server?
[16:34] <nacc> cliffer: i genuinely have no idea how phamm works :)
[16:34] <nacc> cliffer: are you providing a basedn in your query?
[16:37] <cliffer> nacc: that error message comes up after login, i dont provided anything on that website. but i didnt provide any basedn in configs too, imho. slapd gives the following:  invalid dn: "vd=,o=hosting,dc=cembot,dc=de"
[16:37] <nacc> cliffer: yeah, i just googled quickly and it seems like if you don't provide a basedn, it uses the system default one, which might be wrong
[16:49] <cliffer> nacc: provide a basedn in phamm or in openldap?
[17:25] <nacc> cliffer: sorry, was afk -- http://php.net/manual/en/function.ldap-search.php
[17:25] <nacc> cliffer: i was just looking at c0
[18:23] <k1l> funkyHat: kde uses ssdm since some time around 15.04 or such
[18:23] <funkyjive> k1l: ahh ... let me try to run that
[18:23] <funkyjive> kdm is still present.
[18:24] <funkyjive> don't locally but do have kdm
[18:24] <funkyjive> hmm..
[18:24] <k1l> funkyjive: kde plasma seems to need ssdm stuff since kde 5
[18:25] <funkyjive> I wonder if my KDE packages didn't get upgraded ?
[18:27] <funkyjive> when I apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it tells me it is installed ... but I wonder if it is not in a proper state of upgrade ...
[18:28] <k1l> install ssdm, then start it.
[18:29] <k1l> *sddm
[18:29] <funkyjive> am looking for the package
[18:29] <funkyjive> ahh I do have that one
[18:29] <funkyjive> :)
[18:29] <funkyjive> sddm
[18:29] <k1l> then start that
[18:29] <funkyjive> nice
[18:29] <k1l> as a service, of course. and ubuntu now uses systemd
[18:30] <funkyjive> nice
[18:31] <funkyjive> wah hoo
[18:32] <funkyjive> I think there is probably some kind of start in systemd to automatically start the ui now?
[18:35] <funkyjive> any idea what my right terms to google are now?  I am looking to make sddm start automatically on boot
[18:40] <funkyjive> this is super nice.
[19:09] <funkyjive> so after upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 smbd dumps core when I start it  any sense on how to troubleshoot that?
[19:10] <funkyjive> I get nothing in /var/log/samba/log.smbd and I get a core file in cores
[19:17] <funkyjive> looks like security= share is maybe no longer supported?
[19:26] <carl_> I am trying to change permissions of a folder from root to *user* but it will not change and is not giving me any errors, what might i be doing wrong?
[19:28] <carl_> I am typing "sudo chown carl:carl steamgames/" but when i type ls -ld steamgames/ it just says root:root
[19:34] <kurros> carl_: what filesystem?
[19:34] <carl_> nfts
[19:35] <carl_> sorry NTFS
[19:35] <kurros> ah
[19:35] <kurros> ntfs doesn't support linux file permissions like that
[19:35] <kurros> you need to change ownership at mount time
[19:35] <carl_> ah ok..
[19:36] <carl_> i'm new to linux would you mind pointing me to a guide please?
[19:37] <carl_> or is it as simple as clicking on the drive (to mount it) then typing the command?
[19:43] <carl_> Kurros, I have just google it and I see I need to basic format the drive then setup a new file system, but I was in the process of setting up a auto mount in fstab will this screw my system up?
[19:44] <kurros> woah, no. yes you would want to configure it with /etc/fstab
[19:45] <kurros> if you are running Ubuntu proper the Disks tool can help write the lines for you, but /etc/fstab is pretty simple
[19:45] <carl_> so it's as simple as editing the file and removing the line?
[19:45] <kurros> is there a line that mentions your ntfs partition already?
[19:45] <carl_> yeh
[19:46] <carl_> #/dev/sdc1: UUID="2280854180851D03" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="1c3fe237-01"
[19:46] <kurros> ah, i see. one sec
[19:48] <carl_> i added a line to fstab to auto mount a folder on that drive but when it came to changing permissions, its failed due to the file system, so if i replace the current fstab file with the one i backed it up with then format the drive and make a new partition in ex4? i can redo the whole process?
[19:48] <carl_> without cabaging my pc?
[19:51] <kurros> do not format you will lose your data, you just need to add uid= and gid= to the mount options
[19:51] <kurros> something like this line: /dev/sdc1  /media/windows  ntfs-3g  defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0
[19:51] <kurros> assumig 1000 is the uid of carl (you can run " id -u " to check)
[19:53] <carl_> ok, i will do that in a sec, i dont mind loosing the data its only games for steam and i can redownload them in seconds, but messing with command lines makes me nervous
[19:54] <carl_> iu -u = 1000
[19:54] <kurros> understandable. if you use the Disks app it can write the fstab entry for you
[19:55] <carl_> sorry you looking me a bit, what is the disks app? gparted?
[19:56] <carl_> excuse that last line i have no idea where it came form lol
[19:56] <kurros> if you are using Ubuntu proper its just "Disks" in the applications. actual program is "gnome-disks"
[19:56] <carl_> ok
[19:57] <kurros> if you are using Xubuntu or Kbuntu its not installed by default
[19:57] <carl_> i got it open what type am i changing it too?
[19:57] <kurros> locate and select the windows partition, click the gears and choose mount Edit Mount Options
[19:58] <carl_> yes
[19:58] <kurros> turn off Automatic Mount Options, there is a text box with no label above Mount Point: you can add the gid stuff there
[19:59] <carl_> ok do i copy what you put? or am i editing it and if so what parts am i editing?
[20:01] <kurros> if there is something in the textbox already just add ",uid=1000,gid=1000" to the end. if not make it "defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000"
[20:01] <carl_> now that line reads " rw,users,exec,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 "
[20:02] <kurros> that should do it
[20:03] <carl_> so now i re do the " sudo chown carl:carl steamgames/ " ?
[20:04] <carl_> and  " sudo chmod 700 steamgames/ " ?
[20:04] <carl_> or will there be no need for that?
[20:04] <kurros> when its remounted it should be owned by carl already
[20:04] <kurros> everything will
[20:04] <carl_> ok cool
[20:04] <carl_> i need to reboot to test it ill report back in 2 mins
[20:05] <carl_> brb
[20:09] <carl_> hello kurros
[20:09] <kurros> success?
[20:10] <carl_> looks good so far, it was mounted as soon as i loaded up
[20:11] <kurros> i'm not that familiar with ntfs-3g so I have no idea what security/ownership any new files you create will have when you boot back into windows.
[20:11] <carl_> yeh working great, im just installing a game to make sure
[20:12] <carl_> its ok windows is out of the window for now :) excuse the pun
[20:12] <kurros> hehe
[20:13] <carl_> Thank you sir! you have been a great help, Would i be able to ask you some more questions if you have time?
[20:14] <kurros> sure. ask away regardless. if i'm not paying attention some other lurker might be. also a lot more people in #ubuntu
[20:15] <teward> kurros: 16.04 only here in #ubuntu+1 though
[20:15] <carl_> Ok, first i want to install k
[20:15] <teward> so, unless they're on already released releases that aren't EOL, they should probably be here.
[20:15] <teward> (for 16.04)
[20:16] <carl_> what is EOL?
[20:16] <kurros> yeah, the previous question would probably have been more appropriate there :)
[20:17] <carl_> ok so any software stuff i can talk in the normal ubuntu channel?
[20:18] <carl_> because i need help installing OBS studio
[20:18] <kurros> yeah, this channel is more intended for dealing with fallout from pre-release updates
[20:19] <carl_> oh ok, my bad i assumed i had to talk in here because i was using 16.04
[20:19] <carl_> thank you Kurros again
[20:19] <carl_> keep up the good work
[20:19] <kurros> no worries. it would have been hard for you to know what was causing your problem
[20:20] <nedstark> carl: this page explains https://obsproject.com/download#linux
[20:23] <carl_> ty nedstark
[20:36] <Xard_> hmm, seems like ubuntu 16.04 defaults deadline scheduler instead of cfq for all drives
[20:41] <coffeeguy> I was hoping to try gnome and xfce in 16.04 would that be supported here i'm running the ubuntu unity from conical
[20:41] <coffeeguy> 16.04 of course
[20:41] <k1l> coffeeguy: of course they are in the repos.
[20:42] <coffeeguy> sudo dpkg reconfigure xfce?
[20:42] <k1l> what?
[20:42] <coffeeguy> oh what's the syntax for installing it ?
[20:42] <coffeeguy> software center?
[20:42] <k1l> no. use apt (or some other packagemanagement program you like ) and install the package. then logout and choose the desktop on the login screen
[20:43] <coffeeguy> oh wow that's way easier than i thought it'd be lol
[20:43] <coffeeguy> thanks k1l
[20:44] <k1l> ubuntu uses a package managment system. that is a lot of service for the user. so use that.
[20:44] <coffeeguy> kk o7
[20:46] <coffeeguy> interesting i didn't realize there were so many packages for gnome
[20:46] <coffeeguy> what was the deal with Linus and his views on gnome have they changed?
[20:47] <coffeeguy> sorry i should ask that in offtopic
[20:47] <k1l> better ask linus about his opinion about gnome :)
[20:47] <coffeeguy> hehe :)
[20:48] <coffeeguy> hmm at this point should i choose gdm3 or lightdm ?
[20:48] <coffeeguy> for default display manager
[20:49] <coffeeguy> in package set up?
[20:50] <k1l> what you like. should work with both.
[20:50] <coffeeguy> kk
[20:53] <coffeeguy> ok sudo reboot :)
[20:53] <k1l> no need for reboot. logout is enought
[20:53] <k1l> ....
[21:01] <zen-guy> noice
[21:06] <zen-guy> ok now for xfce
[21:06] <nedstark> use cinnamon
[21:07] <zen-guy> i'll try it
[21:07] <zen-guy> right now i suppose
[21:07] <nedstark> gnome happened to stop working for me today
[21:08] <zen-guy> hmm
[21:08] <nedstark> i have 5 DE's so no biggie
[21:08] <zen-guy> DE?
[21:08] <nedstark> desktop environment
[21:08] <zen-guy> ooh ok
[21:08] <zen-guy> yah
[21:08] <zen-guy> hehe
[21:09] <nedstark> cinnamon fixed their video card crash bugs so its pretty stable now
[21:10] <zen-guy> what do you think k1l ?
[21:10] <k1l> use what you like?
[21:10] <zen-guy> kk
[21:11] <k1l> i dont know your taste and your workflow. and it dont want to tell you waht to do :)
[21:12] <zen-guy> hmm is there one i could try that needs testing?
[21:12] <nedstark> they all need testing in 16.04
[21:12]  * zen-guy tries all the DE's then hhe
[21:12] <k1l> yeah, if you see bugs anywhere, look on launchpad.net if thats already known or file a bug if not
[21:13] <zen-guy> okies on it
[21:43] <coffeeguy> you're right nedstark cinnamon is slick
[22:06] <Adam__> Does anyone know when the Release Candidate will be available for download?
[22:07] <nacc> Adam__: dailies are the release candidate until release
[22:07] <flocculant> Adam__: afaik it doesn't really work like that
[22:07] <flocculant> nacc: :)
[22:07] <nacc> Adam__: (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseCandidate)
[22:08] <Adam__> So Ubuntu no longer does an RC image like they did back in the day?
[22:08] <flocculant> the release candidate is a movable feast - now it is whatever the daily is, given that things land - the rc is tomorrow's daily when they've landed
[22:08] <flocculant> Adam__: no
[22:08] <k1l> Adam__: did you read the link? :)
[22:08] <Adam__> Excellent, just read the link and that explains it too. :)
[22:08] <flocculant> :)
[22:09] <flocculant> nacc: now I noticed you in -release :p
[22:09] <Adam__> And if I upgrade on or after release day it become the final release, correct?
[22:09] <k1l> !final
[22:10] <Adam__> Thanks guys. :)
[22:10] <nacc> I just sent an "!rc" update to ubottu as this might be a FAQ
[22:13] <coffeeguy> hmm what's the syntax for installing kde in 16.04?
[22:13] <k1l> nacc: updated :)
[22:13] <k1l> !rc
[22:14] <nacc> k1l: thanks, i think that's pretty accurate :)
[22:14] <k1l> yeah, that will work
[22:16] <flocculant> nice
[22:16] <flocculant> might make it Ubuntu and official flavours
[22:17] <flocculant> only because I am one :p
[22:17] <nacc> flocculant: heh
[22:17] <flocculant> our pre-release notes now pretty much say that :)
[22:18] <coffeeguy> oh ok it's 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[22:18] <coffeeguy> i was typing ~install kde
[22:19] <k1l> coffeeguy: use "apt search keyword" to find packages
[22:19] <coffeeguy> thank you :D
[23:37] <coffeeguy> hi i have an interesting problem after i tried to install kunbuntu-desktop, kde telepathy conflict with google plugins
[23:38] <coffeeguy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15861643/
[23:38] <coffeeguy> should i ask this in #ubuntu?
[23:38] <coffeeguy> i am using 16.04
[23:39] <teward> coffeeguy: asking here is fine since you're on 16.04
[23:39] <coffeeguy> k :)
[23:39] <coffeeguy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/618389/trying-to-overwrite-usr-share-accounts-services-google-im-service-which-is   It's similar to this
[23:42] <coffeeguy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15861693/ also this is what i get when i try to -f install
[23:43] <coffeeguy> should i rebuild dkpg?
[23:46] <abracadabrababy> Hi I looked at mouse settings and did not see two finger scrolling. Is it because my touchpad isn't supported?
[23:47] <abracadabrababy> I have pain in hands/wrists and trying to scroll on that tiny area (right side of the touchpad) huuurts
[23:48] <coffeeguy> ok uninstalling kde-telepathy 'completely' in synaptic fixed it
[23:53] <funkyjive> this new KDE is pretty.
[23:54] <funkyjive> (still in the process of being enamored with 16.04)
[23:55] <abracadabrababy> :)