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dokoslangasek, pitti: eperl wants to demote.  which package should have a Built-Using: eperl? or should it be just seeded?00:52
ianorlinflocculant, infinity I had something similar in booting a kvm virtual machine multiple times as well00:54
ianorlinwith lubuntu00:54
slangasekdoko: I'm not sure that we want either for eperl, it seems to me it should just be demoted.  I'm not sure why pitti thought that one should come back into main03:28
zequence Any kind soul who could squeeze these in for us, at this late hour?05:26
zequenceBug 156898105:26
ubot5`bug 1568981 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "new Ubuntu Studio wallpaper for ubiquity installer [UI FREEZE EXCEPTION]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156898105:26
zequenceBug 156900505:26
ubot5`bug 1569005 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "New ubiquity slideshow for Ubuntu Studio [UI Freeze Exception]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156900505:26
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slangasek^^ this pulls a fix from Debian that was uploaded shortly after 2.02.133-1 was merged (I maybe should've called this 2.02.133-2ubuntu1) that resolves a problem with lvm snapshotting being slow and dmeventd failing to monitor07:44
slangasek(so if you use schroot with lvm snapshots, this is why they're slow to setup/teardown, and why you get noise on stderr... which also breaks adt-virt-schroot)07:45
Laneyinfinity: It's regenerated at build time anyway - it's an AC_CONFIG_FILE09:44
LaneyJust shouldn't be put into the release tarballs09:44
infinityLaney: Do the paths actually come out sane at build time? :P09:51
LaneyYeah09:55
Laneycheck the file on your system09:55
Laneyhttps://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-software/commit/?h=wip/iainl/ubuntu-xenial&id=1f5bc7571c4647ce3d47640f49f428ef0a89b66f anyways09:57
bzoltanfolks, is here anybody who could pubish a landing silo what stuck after a late QA approval? I could use the time to integrate this release to the IDE.10:45
bzoltanhttps://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/126610:45
clivejodoes anyone here understand whats changed with mysql?11:07
clivejoI have a Kubuntu system with apps that require MySQL to work.  Ever since the update to MySQL a few days ago they have all stopped working11:08
dokohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gccgo-6/+bug/1571182 ^^^13:11
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1571182 in gccgo-6 (Ubuntu) "FFe: update gccgo-6 to the GCC 6.1 release candidate 1" [Undecided,New]13:11
apwclivejo, i would recommend asking on #ubuntu-server based on the previous uploaders for that ...13:13
clivejoapw: hi, do you know was there a FFE for MySQL?13:14
apwclivejo, what version worked, and which not?13:16
clivejothe one previous to the version releases in the last week or so worked fine13:16
apw(there are more than one base release in xenial)13:17
clivejoits only since an update a few days ago13:17
clivejoon the 14th my system upgraded to mysql 5.7 libmysqlclient2013:18
clivejobut the problem upgrade was on the 7th I believe when I went from 5.6 to 5.713:19
apwclivejo, so it depends what version you had before, but that might well have been ubuntu3 which had an FFE LP: #152858313:20
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1528583 in mysql-5.7 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please update to MySQL 5.7 series" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152858313:20
clivejoubuntu3 was when I started seeing problems13:21
clivejothat was installed on the 7th13:21
clivejowhich was then upgraded to ubuntu6 on the 14th13:22
clivejobut from the 14th my problems have got worse13:22
apwthat all was uploaded by rbasak so i'd ask on #ubuntu-server ...13:25
Skuggenclivejo: What's the issue?13:39
clivejoI dont actually know!13:41
SkuggenWhat happens, then? :)13:41
clivejoapps that use it wont work13:42
SkuggenWhich apps, specifically?13:42
clivejoGREPME MySQLe query failed! (2000) mysql_embedded: Shutdown complete13:43
clivejoamarok and kontact that I know of13:43
Skuggenamarok was very recently fixed to build with MySQL 5.7, at least13:45
SkuggenWhich MySQL 5.7 package version are you using now?13:46
clivejoubuntu6 I believe13:46
SkuggenAnd amarok?13:46
clivejo2:2.8.0-0ubuntu813:48
clivejorebuilt - -- Robie Basak <robie.basak@ubuntu.com>  Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:32:21 +000013:49
SkuggenBoth newest, then. I'd have to look closer at amarok and see how it uses MySQL13:50
clivejothe component that uses mysql in kontact is called akonadi13:51
clivejohttp://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/akonadi-backend-mysql13:51
clivejoagain rebuilt -- Robie Basak <robie.basak@ubuntu.com>  Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:33:29 +000013:51
SkuggenAkonadi was updated for 5.7 in 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu4, yes13:52
clivejoakonadi is a complicated beast13:52
clivejobut its the heart of the Kubuntu PIM13:52
clivejomy whole groupware is dead in the water13:52
SkuggenThe main differences from the 5.6 packages to 5.7 is that 5.7 is more strict by default and that it's stricter on letting you have a root account without a password13:53
SkuggenIs there anything in /var/log/mysql/error.log?13:53
SkuggenWould probably need to look closer at how akonadi is using MySQL13:55
clivejonothing I think is relevant13:55
clivejoI think these apps startup their own instances13:55
SkuggenAh, I saw a similar bug report for amarok that was because of config problems13:57
SkuggenCan you run mysqld --verbose --help 2>&1 > /dev/null  and see if it says anything?13:57
clivejofew warnings, few notes and an error - [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it.13:58
clivejoand mysqld: Can't change dir to '/var/lib/mysql/' (Errcode: 13 - Permission denied)13:58
SkuggenAh, the permission denied is just because you didn't sudo, but that's fine.13:59
Skuggenmysql_upgrade should have been run when 5.7 was installed/upgraded, though.13:59
SkuggenBut if it hasn't then the server won't work properly, so try running sudo mysql_upgrade -uroot -p13:59
clivejoError: Failed while fetching Server version! Could be due to unauthorized access.14:00
clivejoFATAL ERROR: Upgrade failed14:00
SkuggenWhat does mysql_upgrade --version say?14:02
clivejosame message14:03
SkuggenNot really sure what would cause that error. my_print_defaults mysqld | grep port?14:05
SkuggenAnd mysql --version and mysqld --version14:05
clivejosorry, I been purging mysql packages14:11
clivejowhen I install mysql-server Im getting errors14:12
clivejomysql_upgrade: [ERROR] 1146: Table 'mysql.innodb_table_stats' doesn't exist14:12
clivejoSetting up mysql-server-5.7 (5.7.11-0ubuntu6) ...14:12
clivejohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15873389/14:15
SkuggenI think I've seen that before in a bug report. Hang on14:17
* clivejo hangs14:18
SkuggenThere was a bug in mysql_upgrade if the server was started without innodb, but it was fixed before the 5.7 GA14:22
Skuggenhttps://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=7015214:23
clivejoso its my data dir?14:24
SkuggenYeah. You can test if everything works as it should by backing it up to somewhere else and trying to reinstall14:26
clivejonothing in the main dir14:26
clivejoIll just rm it14:26
SkuggenThere's nothing, or just nothing you need to keep? Maybe akonadi stores it somewhere else14:27
clivejoso basically the 5.7 failed?14:27
clivejoakonadi starts an instance and stores it in my home directory14:27
clivejook installed that time :)14:28
clivejoI need to reboot14:28
SkuggenAh, of course. The mysql installation probably doesn't handle data in non-standard locations too well14:30
SkuggenSo if /var/lib/mysql was there, but empty, it would assume the database exists and not create it, then run mysql_upgrade.14:30
SkuggenThat at least is a bug we can probably fix14:30
clivejonope, apps still not working14:32
SkuggenDoes mysql_upgrade still give the same error as before?14:32
clivejono, mysql-server installed without error14:33
SkuggenIf you run it manually as well?14:33
SkuggenWhen it's run as part of the 5.7 install it will  upgrade the database in /var/lib/mysql14:33
clivejowell --version is now giving an output - mysql_upgrade  Ver 2.0 Distrib 5.7.11, for Linux (x86_64)14:34
SkuggenMy guess is the apps aren't working because the database is stored somewhere else, and hasn't been upgraded14:34
SkuggenMaybe akonadi specifies a config to use instead of changing the normal ones14:34
clivejoyes, the flat files are stored in my home directory14:34
clivejo--datadir=~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/14:35
SkuggenCan you do mysqld --verbose --help | grep datadir?14:35
clivejo/var/lib/mysql/14:36
SkuggenCheck your process list for mysqld and see if it specifies anything in particular on the command line?14:36
clivejoakonadi starts its own instance though14:37
clivejoin my home directory14:37
clivejothere is an error log here14:37
clivejostderr: "mysqld: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /home/~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf\nmysqld: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!\n"14:37
SkuggenIs that file there?14:38
clivejomysql.conf is14:39
clivejowhat does \nmysqld mean?14:39
SkuggenLooking for a mysqld section in the file, I guess14:40
clivejo\n means newline?14:41
SkuggenWhat's in the mysql.conf file?14:41
clivejoLOL settings14:41
clivejohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15873829/14:43
SkuggenLooks like it's actually looking for the full string including \nmysqld, though14:43
SkuggenOh wait, maybe not. Hang on, let me try just using that14:44
flexiondotorginfinity, slangasek cyphermox Ubiquity is not behaving as it should in the April 16th daily image.14:48
flexiondotorgIt is boot directly to desktop.14:48
Skuggenclivejo: Config file seems to work ok to me. So does indeed look like it's trying to use the full string, for some reason14:49
Skuggenclivejo: See if you can find out where the path to that config file is set in akonadi?14:51
clivejofrom what I understand it starts up agents when I log in14:54
clivejothese agents connect to my mail resources and grab my new email which are cached in akonadi14:55
clivejoits basically black magic to me14:55
clivejoI just dont understand how an upgrade of this kind can be made so close to release date14:56
clivejoit worked fine in 5.614:56
clivejoThe only thing I have done is to upgrade my system14:57
apwclivejo, rememeber whatever is in the release has to be supported for 5 years, so the latest upstream version is desirable15:04
Skuggenclivejo: So it works if you remove 5.7 and install 5.6?15:04
flexiondotorginfinity, slangasek cyphermox This is still an issue too - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/155253915:07
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1552539 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity Erase Disk and Install Fails to create Swap Space" [Critical,Triaged]15:07
clivejoSkuggen: I dont know, Robie changed the dependancies in the latest package - Depend on mysql-{server,client}-core-5.7, not 5.6, for the switch to15:08
clivejo    MySQL 5.7.15:08
rbasako/15:09
clivejoI guess I could force install 5.6 and see if it works :/15:09
rbasakSkuggen: I wonder if it's because of the binaries missing from -core?15:09
rbasakclivejo: do you have the mysql-server-5.7 package installed also? Or just mysql-server-core-5.7?15:09
Skuggenrbasak: But the error message he's getting seems to just be about not finding the config file. Unless that's a distraction15:10
SkuggenIf so, then it might just be that you need to upgrade the database to 5.715:10
rbasakSkuggen: ah, then that sounds more likely. I was just thinking of reasons akonadi might have problems with no regard to the specific symptoms.15:11
ogra_note that akonadi got a new upstream version this morning ...15:12
ogra_(EU morning :) )15:12
Skuggen5.6 core package didn't have those plugin binaries either15:12
clivejoogra_: it did and it didnt15:12
ogra_?15:12
ogra_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/4:15.12.3-0ubuntu115:12
ogra_regard the diff15:13
rbasakDoes akonadi need to be running mysql_upgrade in its postinst?15:13
ogra_-         mysql-client-core-5.7 | virtual-mysql-client-core,15:13
ogra_-         mysql-server-core-5.7 | virtual-mysql-server-core,15:13
ogra_+         mysql-client-core-5.6 | virtual-mysql-client-core,15:13
ogra_+         mysql-server-core-5.6 | virtual-mysql-server-core,15:13
clivejoits a package thats been ready to go for a long time but we (Kubuntu) are bit short staffed at the moment15:13
ogra_(not sure that was desired)15:13
ogra_there is aalso a patch to the mysql-global.conf defaults15:14
clivejoits been working all along on 5.615:14
clivejoits only since this forced upgrade to 5.7 that its fallen on its face15:15
rbasakThere isn't that much different in 5.7 AIUI. I'm sure we can figure this out.15:15
ogra_the mysql-global.conf change looks like it is needed for 5.715:16
clivejorbasak: are you robie in the changelog?15:16
rbasakclivejo: yes.15:16
clivejoah o/15:16
ogra_http://launchpadlibrarian.net/253864624/akonadi_4%3A15.12.1-0ubuntu4_4%3A15.12.3-0ubuntu1.diff.gz looks very much like rbasak and sgclark clashed there15:16
ogra_(see the top most changelog entry)15:17
Skuggenmysql_upgrade --socket=/tmp/akonadi_usersomething I think15:17
ogra_which might explain the breakage15:17
Skuggenogra_: I don't actually think that will break, since virtual-mysql-client/server-core will be there15:17
Skuggenclivejo: Assuming it isn't actually failing to find the config file (which wouldn't be different between 5.6 and 5.7), then upgrading the database should fix it, but that's a one-way street, so should probably back it up first15:18
ogra_Skuggen, rbasak added the 5.7 dep ... people that had his package have upgraded to 5.7 ... then sgclark added a fix for the mysql default config but downgraded the dep ... so the fix wont land since 5.6 is gone15:18
SkuggenAh15:19
ogra_at least thats how i read that diff above15:19
rbasakBoth 5.6 and 5.7 provide virtual-mysql-server though15:19
ogra_sure15:19
ogra_but there are 5.7 specific config changes in the second upload15:19
clivejoSkuggen: I dont know what to do, its just strange close to release and at least two apps in Kubuntu are dead :(15:19
clivejoscary15:20
ogra_clivejo, it will be fixed one way or the other ... and it is definitely better to have a bug for the first few days around the release than having to maintain an unsupported mysql version for 5 years :)15:20
ogra_that is what you get for not waiting to the .1 release ;)15:21
ogra_(the privilege of reporting bugs :) )15:21
clivejoI dont get why we been bumped though15:21
clivejosurely the decision to move from 5.6 to 5.7 is with us?15:22
ogra_again, because 5.6 wont be supported for 5 years by upstream15:22
clivejoie Debian/Kubuntu KDE teams15:22
Skuggenclivejo: Can you first take a backup of the .local/share/akonadi/db_data directory?15:22
rbasakWe share the archive.15:22
rbasakMySQL isn't exclusive to KDE.15:22
clivejo*holds hands up*  Im new to all this, so please go easy on me!15:23
SkuggenThen run mysql_upgrade -uroot -p --socket=/tmp/akonadi-youruser-something/mysql.socket15:24
rbasakclivejo: np, just explaining. I appreciate your patience.15:24
clivejowe sync with Debian - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/15:24
SkuggenNot sure about the -uroot -p, since I'm not sure what credentials akonadi sets up :)15:24
SkuggenAnd the youruser-something is randomly generated15:24
rbasakclivejo: if I thought it would be a major deal, I would have checked with your team first. I could yet turn out to be wrong, but I suspect it'll be a one line (or similar) fix.15:25
rbasakSkuggen: thank you for being on top of this. Shall I leave you to drive? I'm around, let me know if I can help.15:25
SkuggenSure15:26
clivejoI dont really have the time to look into it properly15:26
ogra_someone really needs to clearify with sgclark if the rollback of the dependency was wanted though .. the new upstream definitely also modifies the SQL tables15:26
rbasakI'm also preparing the update to 5.7.12 though the release team hasn't acked that yet.15:26
clivejoI would like to know if this is a problem for new installs, or is it just upgrades15:27
ogra_(according with claiming a config change for 5.7 while the dep was downgraded to 5.6)15:27
rbasakogra_: given that the upload chopped off my changelog message, I think it's safe to assume that the reversion was inadvertent.15:27
ogra_right15:27
* ogra_ would just re-upload with the dependency fixed again ... 15:27
clivejoI cant actually see that package of sgclark's yet15:28
ogra_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi ... was released to universe 5h ago15:29
clivejoI know15:29
rbasakOh15:29
clivejobut it hasnt made it to my system yet15:30
Skuggenclivejo: The config file you pasted has the change15:30
rbasakp/sb end15:31
rbasakclivejo: what version of akonadi do you have installed?15:31
clivejonothing at the minute15:32
rbasakWhat version did you have installed?15:32
clivejoI purged mysql and akonadi15:33
rbasak/var/log/apt/history.log should be able to tell you15:33
clivejoI had the rbasak modified15:33
SkuggenBut you put the contents of your mysql.conf file at http://paste.ubuntu.com/15873829/15:34
clivejoprevious to that I had the one sgclark uploaded from a staging/testing PPA15:34
SkuggenAh15:34
Skuggen# Deprecated in MySQL >= 5.6.3, removed in 5.7 (works in MariaDB)15:34
rbasakYeah15:34
rbasakThat's what I'm thinking15:34
clivejook so now it wants to install 5.615:35
ogra_Skuggen, that was what i was referring to 30min ago ;)15:35
rbasakclivejo: I suggest you force it onto 5.7.15:35
Skuggenclivejo: If you install 5.7 first, then akonadi15:35
rbasakclivejo: ask apt-get for mysql-server-core-5.7 specifically, along with akonadi15:35
ogra_Skuggen, it also has a dbupdate.xml file that it likely processes to convert the tables15:35
clivejoI want to get to a point where its working15:35
clivejoand see what breaks it15:36
clivejothis only started about a wek ago15:36
SkuggenAs it is now I don't think upgrading akonadi from 5.6 to 5.7 will work, because you need to run mysql_upgrade15:36
SkuggenBut would be very nice to test if it works with a fresh install with 5.715:37
ogra_doesnt it do that from a postinst ?15:37
Skuggenogra_: Akonadi stores the database somewhere else15:37
SkuggenAnd uses its own config file15:37
SkuggenSo the mysql-5.7 postinst will upgrade whatever database is in /var/lib/mysql, but that won't help akonadi15:37
ogra_no, i mean the dbupdate.xml file and the mysql-global.conf change from akinadi itself15:38
clivejoamarok is having problems too15:38
clivejobrb15:38
ogra_i would expect some postinst to process them15:38
PaulW2Uflexiondotorg: I'm also seeing that the install option boots to a desktop. Xubuntu too although a little more graceful than MATE :)15:38
clivejook its working now15:40
Skuggenclivejo: Can you also try a completely fresh install with 5.7?15:41
clivejomysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.6.28, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using  EditLine wrapper15:41
clivejoso purge all mysql packages?15:42
SkuggenAnd akonadi15:42
clivejobut akonadi will want to use 5.615:43
SkuggenPurge mysql and akonadi, then install mysql 5.7, then akonadi15:43
SkuggenAkonadi wants 5.6 or virtual, and they both provide virtual15:43
clivejoI have to go soon15:44
clivejoIt'll have to wait until later15:44
Skuggenamarok uses removed config values15:45
clivejook purged mysql, installed 5.7 and then installed akonadi18:42
clivejoit seems to be working18:43
clivejoSkuggen: ping if you are still here18:44
Skuggenclivejo: I'm actually surprised, because looking at the source it seems akonadi uses outdated mysql_install_db options :D18:47
clivejoit seems to have picked up my old database18:48
SkuggenAlso, amarok has an option in the config file it generates that just needs renaming, and it seemed to work18:48
clivejoeverything is there18:48
SkuggenAh, right. Yeah, this would only affect new databases.18:48
clivejoSkuggen: are you on the release team?18:48
SkuggenI work for MySQL :)18:48
clivejoah18:48
clivejoan expert :)18:48
SkuggenOnly worked here for about a year, but I'm working with rbasak on the Ubuntu packaging18:49
clivejois rbasakabout?18:49
clivejorbasak: ping18:50
Skuggenclivejo: For amarok, I think there's a .local/share/amarok/my.cnf or something like that, with a myisam-recover=FORCE, that should be myisam-recover-options=FORCE18:51
clivejoSkuggen: would you might coming to #kubuntu-devel?18:52
SkuggenOn freenode?18:53
clivejoyes18:54
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infinitysgclark: Your changelog format is broken (missing a newline between entries)20:07
infinitysgclark: Also, the "debsign broken" thing can be solved by asking specifically for the right key.  "debsign -k 'Lappy2.0'" or specify the key like so:20:08
infinity(base)adconrad@nosferatu:~$ cat .devscripts20:08
infinityDEBSIGN_KEYID=B1CDE58F20:08
clivejoinfinity: are you on the release team?20:09
infinityclivejo: Last I checked.20:09
clivejo:)20:09
clivejowe have a Package Manager in Kubuntu called Muon which is currently broken to install20:10
infinitysgclark: You also got Robie's entries in the wrong spot (which might account for the newline issue)20:11
clivejokinda need some help with it20:11
infinityclivejo: Gimme a sec.  One thing at a time.20:11
sgclarkinfinity: ok thanks, will fix, sorry.20:12
infinitysgclark: If I fix it up, can you just commit the diff to pkg-kde (I don't think I have access).20:12
sgclarkinfinity: suree I can do that. We are moving back to launchpad next release.20:13
infinitysgclark: wget http://lucifer.0c3.net/~adconrad/akonadi.patch && patch -p1 < akonadi.patch && rm akonadi.patch && git commit -a -m 'Fix changelog' && git tag ubuntu/4%15.12.3-0ubuntu4 && git push -a20:18
infinitysgclark: Uploading that now.20:18
infinitysgclark: (And yes, the diff looks awful, but it looks sane against -0ubuntu1 :P)20:19
sgclarkinfinity: you are awesome, thank you so much.20:19
infinitysgclark: This is how it comes out as a diff against -0ubuntu1, much prettier: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/254141356/akonadi_4%3A15.12.3-0ubuntu1_4%3A15.12.3-0ubuntu4.diff.gz20:20
sgclarkinfinity: :)20:22
clivejohow did it get from ubuntu1 to ubuntu4 ?20:23
infinityclivejo: Magic.20:23
clivejofairies then20:23
infinityclivejo: (I would have called it ubuntu2, but sgclark had already tagged 2 and 3 in git, and deleting tags is generally bad)20:23
clivejoah, not I see20:24
clivejonow20:24
infinitysgclark: You didn't apply my patch. :P20:37
infinitysgclark: The changelog in git is still broken, just with an extra entry now.20:37
infinityWell, three extra entries.20:37
infinityAww, dang, I don't have write access.  Didn't think I would.20:41
sgclarkhmm but I did. let me look, I am in too many places.20:44
infinityNot the patch I linked from lucifer.20:44
infinityclivejo: Okay.  muon.  You have half an hour before I run off to an airport.  What's up.21:09
infinityclivejo: Laney ACKed your FFe two days ago.21:10
dokoslangasek, pitti: eperl demoted22:51
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: both known issues I want to fix on Monday23:05
cyphermoxbtw, I found this very funny bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/157126223:05
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1571262 in gnome-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "my computer's name is not "Bastien's computer"" [Undecided,New]23:05
flexiondotorgcyphermox, Yeah. I was sent the bugs by Xubuntu. I've +1 them.23:06
cyphermoxcool23:06
flexiondotorgcyphermox, Hah!23:06
cyphermoxI'm not sticking around to hack at the bugs tonight though, I have a school project to work on23:06
flexiondotorgSure.23:07
flexiondotorgTime for sleeping here.23:07
flexiondotorgNight.23:07
cyphermoxnght23:07
infinitydoko: Ahh, I was testing a numpy merge in my PPA, you beat me to the archive upload. :)23:29
infinityclivejo: This muon upload is a bit concerning to me.23:34
clivejoinfinity: how so?23:34
infinityclivejo: You drop a bunch of packages (I'm guessing everything is in muon now?), but I see no Breaks/Replaces/Conflicts/etc.23:34
infinityclivejo: How is this meant to upgrade for people who have muon-notifier, muon-common, etc installed?23:34
clivejothey have moved to a brand new package plasma-discover23:35
infinityclivejo: And libmuon?  And muon-common?23:36
infinityThat's all in plasma-discover too?23:37
clivejomuon-common is now plasma-discover-common I believe23:37
clivejopackaged here - http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/plasma-discover23:37
infinityKay, seeing the libmuon->libdiscover, *-common and *-discover relationships.23:38
infinitynotifier and updates don't seem to be mentioned anywhere.23:38
clivejolibmuon doesnt exist any more23:38
infinityAhh plasma-discover-updater is updater.23:38
clivejoplasma-discover-updater23:38
clivejoall part of plasma now23:39
infinityIt's both.23:39
infinityKay.23:39
clivejobasically it was all moved bar the Package Manager23:39
infinityThe one thing I'd ask is that all those relationships that are currently Breaks/Replaces turn into Conflicts/Replaces, which apt takes as a hint to completely remove the old one for the new one.23:39
clivejowe werent going to package it, but a lot of users have said they still use it23:39
infinityEach of the dropped packages has a B/R in a plasma equiv.23:40
clivejoinfinity: as you probably can tell Im very new to this23:40
infinitylibmuon -> libdiscovercommon, plasma-discover-updater -> muon-notifier/muon-updater, plasma-discover -> muon-discover23:40
infinityI tihnk I missed one.23:40
clivejothe kubuntu team are under pressure and I took this on to try and learn23:41
infinityOh, and plasma-discover-common -> muon-common23:41
clivejotrying to install muon currently in Xenial leads to an apt failure on libmuon23:42
infinityI guess I can upload to fix that all up.23:42
infinityI don't board for 8 minutes. :P23:42
clivejohave you a laptop?23:43
infinityYeah. :)23:43
infinityOh.23:45
infinityThere are transitional packages in plasma-discover.  I didn't get far enough down the control file.23:45
infinityAccepted.  Please test upgrades from wily with all the muon stuff installed.23:47
clivejothanks23:47
clivejoany feedback?23:48
clivejodoes/dont's ?23:48
infinityOther than whining about upgrade paths, not really.  So, do test that it all actually works.23:48
infinityA full review is a bit hard, given the massive diff. :P23:48
clivejoI know it works in Xenial23:48
infinityAaaand, boarding time.23:49
clivejobeen using it myself for about 3 weeks23:49
clivejohave a good flight!23:49
infinityBack in 10 hours from the other side of the world.23:49
clivejoand thankyou!23:49
clivejoLOL im going to bed!23:49

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