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inetprogood evening everyone 04:21
Wolfeyesmorning everyone05:30
zipperWolfeyes: Morning05:31
zipper:)05:31
WolfeyesHow you zipper05:32
zipperDoing great05:35
WolfeyesWell that is awesome, where you from zipper?05:38
Wolfeyesoh boy05:42
Wolfeyesbrb05:46
magespawngood morning06:05
Kilosmorning all06:12
zipperKilos: Hello06:16
Kiloshi zipper 06:17
zipperI got her email address.06:17
Kiloscool ty06:17
Kilosdo you have mine06:17
zipperNot at all06:17
Kilosor must i rather give you his06:17
zipperNo requirements06:18
zipperI take all forms of contact currenct06:18
zipper*currency06:18
zipperLet me PM you06:18
Kilosok06:18
Kilos-ai! bad connection day it seems06:30
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
Kiloshi kmf 06:34
Kiloseveryone is either sleeping late or shopping already06:34
Kiloshi bushtech 06:42
bushtechmorning Kilos06:43
LangjanGoeiemore manne, lekker geslaap?07:02
Kilosmore Langjan ja dankie en jy07:02
Kilosnet gister se buite werk klap kop vandag ietwat07:03
Kilosso ek kan stadig wees07:03
Langjaneks van voor 4 afop om rugby te kyk07:03
Kilosai!07:04
LangjanSingapore sevens07:04
Kilosek maak hek opp vir sus gou07:04
Langjanok07:04
Kilosoop07:04
Langjanbed op en hek oop07:04
Kilossharks net nou07:04
Langjanja!07:04
LangjanThe drive is just cd so I tried Ubuntu 12.04 on cd, still no luck now hd is running on my machine ready to be formatted but dont know if its sda, sdb?07:06
Kiloslol07:08
Kilosis it ide07:08
Kilosand yours sata?07:09
LangjanDont know07:09
Kiloshas the drive for her got a broad cable to connect07:10
Kilossata is a thing cable07:10
Kilosthin07:10
Langjanyes both have07:10
Kilosok so both ide07:10
Langjanno sorry mine is ssd07:10
Langjansmall cable07:10
Kilosok07:10
Kilosso yours is sata07:11
Langjanif you say so07:11
Kilosiirc the ide always grabs sda07:11
Langjan?07:11
Kilosif i remember correctly07:11
Kilosopen disks07:12
Langjanhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/488213/how-to-add-a-second-hard-drive-to-an-already-installed-xubuntu-14-0407:12
Langjanok07:12
Kiloswhat all is on the xubuntu drive07:12
Kilosmaybe you can see by checking size07:13
Kilosyou know you can just put your dvdrom in there and install 14.0407:14
Langjan158 GB et 4 partition and two small 2.1, one is swap the other extended07:14
Langjanoh07:14
Langjanok07:15
LangjanIt wont mess my running system up?07:16
Kiloswhat07:17
Kilosremoving the dvdrom?07:17
Langjanoh you men put my dvd rom in that machine?07:18
Kilosyes07:18
Kilos12.04 expires next year i think07:18
Langjanits not well, I have to open it with a paper clip, waiting for a new one07:18
Langjancan I not install it via my machine?07:19
Kilosoh ok then07:19
Kilosif you install by you then move the drive all the hardware stuff will be different07:20
Langjanyes makes sense07:20
Kiloslets go with 12.04 for now07:20
Langjanok07:20
Kilosok so xubuntu is on the 160G drive07:20
Langjanyes07:21
Kilosin disks you tick on it then it will show07:21
Langjanyes got it07:21
mazalMornings07:21
Kilosthen you can delete anf format it07:21
Kilosdoes it give the option to format to mbr07:22
Kilostop format button i think07:22
Langjanslow or fast07:22
Kilosyou should see 2 places that say format07:23
Kilosfast is ok07:23
Langjanoverwrite and dont07:23
Langjanis slow not better?07:23
Kilosare you on ubuntu07:23
Langjanyes07:23
Kilosslow is deeper07:23
LangjanI know, is that not better? 07:24
Kilosyour choice07:24
Kiloswhen you install 12.04 it will format again07:24
Langjanpartitioning is 3 options07:25
Kilosyou just want to remove the working OS07:25
Kiloswhat does it say07:25
Langjanno partion, compatible with all and compatble with modern07:25
Kiloscompatible with all will do07:25
Kiloshopefully she has enough ram07:26
Kilosi had no luck installing with less than 640m07:27
LangjanHope so07:27
Kilosand old ram is hard to find07:27
LangjanIt has two modules let me check07:27
Langjanonly 2x 256MB07:28
Kilossjoe07:28
Kiloswill take a long time to install if it succeeds07:29
LangjanOK they may have some more RASM, will see how it goes. Now Sharks, shat later...07:29
LangjanRAM07:30
Kilosok07:30
Kilosenjoy07:30
Langjanthks07:30
Langjan watching on computer dont have dstv 07:30
Kilosim watching on mnet sports07:31
Langjanlucky fish07:31
Langjangeniet!07:31
mazalWhere you guys watching the rugby ?07:31
mazallinks ?07:31
Kilosdankie jy ook07:31
Langjanhttp://cricfree.tv/watch/live/hsbc-sevens-series-singapore-live-streaming07:31
mazaldankie07:31
Langjanjust use adblock and try difereent stream options to get full screen07:32
Langjanmazal, enjoy07:32
LangjanKilos, I have tried all the options, same result: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0) - hardegat hd hierdie!07:48
Kilostry gparted07:51
Kilosold drive, might not be 100%  healthy08:07
Kiloswith disks one of the options for the format is format to mbr08:08
Kilosthats the one you want08:08
Kilosi think you first delete all the partitions then it shows the format to mbr08:17
LangjanPartition manager says I dont have administrator privileges...?!08:22
LangjanCannot execute command ' '/usr/bin/partitionmanager-bin --dontsu''.08:24
LangjanThats what I get if I try to open gparted08:24
bushtechare you opening gparted via terminal or gui?08:27
LangjanI just clicked to open08:30
Kilosai!08:30
Kilosit should have asked for password08:30
bushtechshould have popped up a window asking u to type in your password08:30
LangjanIt did 08:31
Kilosyou can type in sudo gparted08:31
bushtechif u typed in correct p/word should have opened08:31
LangjanPassword is very simple, cannot think I could have made an error 08:32
Langjansudo: gparted: command not found08:33
Kilosuse disks again oom08:33
Langjansame error message08:34
Kilosoh my08:34
Kiloslook for that format option thats says mbr08:35
bushtechremove and reinstall gparted?08:35
Kilosnot sure if its the top or the bottom one08:35
LangjanI could not find that option, mbr08:36
Langjanwill delete and reinstall gparted08:36
Kiloswhen you open in disks and click on that drive it should give all the info on the right08:38
Kilospartitioning here shows master boot record08:39
LangjanNow it shows "no media" which menas its been formatted/ 08:43
Langjan?08:43
Kilosin disks or gparted08:44
Kilosi get lost08:46
Langjanin disks, gparted does not want to know me08:46
LangjanHope Sharks dont also get lost08:47
Kilosyou see that tiny gear08:47
Langjanyes08:47
Kilostick it08:47
Kiloswhat format options you get?08:47
LangjanI have, it shows almost no options now 08:47
Langjannone08:48
Langjanas I said, it shows no media present08:48
Kilosat the top in the info section?08:48
Kilosdoes it see the drive08:49
LangjanIf I click on the drive in disks it shows there is nothing there, then the gear menu gives no formatting options, so something has obviously happened 08:50
Kiloslets see if we can find the command to formay to mbr08:50
bushtechyou have to click on a partition08:51
Kilosbushtech ideas08:51
Kilosoh08:51
bushtechand then on the gear08:52
LangjanYes I did and gave you the outcome, which has changed from showing the contents to showing htere is nothing, so it seems it has been formattedo08:52
Kilosi think mbr corrupt08:53
bushtechok create new partition08:53
LangjanRe-installed partition manager remembers me as with no admin privileges, where do I delete its folder?09:01
Kilosai!09:02
bushtechEish09:02
Kiloshow can it forget09:03
Kilosai!09:03
Kilossudo touch /forcefsck09:03
Kilosand reboot09:03
jan__how do I change my nick again?d09:31
Kilosoh my09:31
Kilosoh here09:31
Kilos  /nick langjan09:32
jan__ /nick Langjan09:32
Kilosya that09:33
Kilosno spaces to start09:33
Kiloshehe09:33
Kilossharks played bad09:33
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Langjanyou showed space and lower case, only allowed one error per line...lmga09:34
Kiloshahaha09:34
LangjanIs it necessary to create partition before fresh install?09:34
Kilosyes09:34
Kilosotherwise there is nowhere to install to09:35
Kiloswb bushtech 09:35
Langjanok so must reinstall gparted first, which one, partition editor or partition manager?09:35
Kilosdisks09:36
Kilosit must work09:36
Kilosi liked the old disk utility in 12.0409:36
Kilosthey keep changing things and make it harder for me09:37
Kilosunity sigh09:38
Kiloshehe09:38
LangjanSorry had to reboot to see the drive09:41
Kilosnp09:41
LangjanNow it shows an ext 4 linu bootable partition09:42
Langjanlinux09:42
Kilosyay09:42
Kilosok so now take it to other pc09:42
Langjanok09:42
Kilosthen bboot from 12.04 cd09:42
Langjanright09:43
Kilos12.04 is supported till next year09:43
Langjansad about Sharkies but sevens doing well09:43
Kilosvery09:43
Kilosi really enjoy sevens09:44
Langjanjust checking some memory sticks09:47
Langjan2x 512 MB yay09:53
Kilosyay09:53
Kilos1 gig will be fine09:53
Kilosbut 2g would be faster09:53
Kilosi ran 640m for a long time09:54
Langjanstill running backwards and forwards, but I have a command line...09:59
Langjangrub>_10:00
Langjandoes that help?10:00
Kilosno thats an ugly one10:00
Kiloswe need to get it to boot from cd10:01
Kilosput a windows cd in and see if that boots10:01
Langjanlet me try again but have repeated a few times already10:01
Langjanok10:01
Kilosif not look in bios, i had one pc you had to tell it in 2 places to boot from cd10:02
bushtechis that drive bootable?10:03
Kilos[11:42] <Langjan> Now it shows an ext 4 linu bootable partition10:03
Kilosim just gonna call telkom and complain about speed10:04
bushtechyeah, mtn just rolled over and died here, now back on voda10:05
Kilosai!10:06
pavlushkaHi Kilos !10:07
pavlushkaHi every one!10:07
bushtechhi pavlushka10:07
pavlushkahello bushtech !10:07
Kiloscalling10:08
pavlushkaactually I'll be back, just peeking!10:08
LangjanKilos, I tried to boot from Ubuntu 10.04 and from Win xp cd's, it keeps opening grub screen that gives ubuntu linux options 10:08
Langjanand not booting from cd10:09
LangjanWonder if cd writer is not working?10:10
Kilosai10:12
Kilosdisconnect thre drive10:12
Kilospower or ide cable10:12
Kilosthen try booting from cd10:12
Langjanok10:13
Kilosif that bios has the options maybe we can get it to boot from a usb stick and install10:14
Kilosthats if cd faulty10:14
LangjanIm going to install my old sticky dvd writer 10:16
Langjanits showing lights and clicking but not picking up10:16
Kilosok10:26
Kiloshope the cpu fast enough to use a dvd10:26
LangjanI tried the cd but no good, uh oh now my system has hiccups, going to switch off, see a bit later10:43
Kilosok10:52
Kilossjoe10:52
Kilosold pcs can give you gray hair10:52
Langjanhi Kilos  my system started hiccupping, I think I may have disturbed the hd power connection when I removed the dvd drive10:53
Langjanyes old women also10:53
Kiloslol10:53
Langjanwell I dont understand, it did boot on kubuntu yesterday10:54
Kilosweird10:54
Kilostry pulling power out and removing the battery till tonight10:55
Kilosthen set bios from scratch10:55
Langjanit was not operating correctly, the screen resolution was too big and the controls difficult to reach 10:55
Langjanremove bios battery?10:55
Kilosyes10:56
Langjanok 10:56
Kilosthen it goes back to default10:56
Langjanok will let you know 10:56
Kilosok10:56
Kiloshi magespawn 11:47
Kilosyou slipped in quietly11:47
Kilosand superfly 11:47
superflyit wasn't me!!11:48
Kiloslol11:48
superflyI'm innocent!11:48
bushtech_jury still out11:49
Kilosbushtech_ you busy?11:49
bushtech_somewhat but what's up11:49
Kilosi just wanted to see if i can get dcc working but its not serious11:50
bushtech_whats dcc?11:50
Kiloswhen 2 pcs connect directly i think11:51
Kilossupposed to be very secure11:51
Kilosits built in to most clients tody i think11:51
bushtech_never tried it, use a router for that sort of thing11:51
Kilostoday11:51
Kiloslet me see where i can find more info11:52
bushtech_or is this connecting over internet?11:53
Kilosi only find it in preferences11:53
Kilosover the net but direct pc to pc11:54
bushtech_teamviewer?11:54
Kiloslemme try11:54
Kilosno its here but privater than private11:54
bushtech_ithink teamviewer pretty secure11:55
Kilosno their server has the info11:55
Kilosdcc it irc direct11:56
Kilosgotta run it with commands i think11:56
bushtech_sounds loke you busy with offshore accounts11:57
Kiloslol no man but its safe to send email addies and stuff when peeps are very security conscious11:57
Kiloslike otr in pidgin encrypts the 2 pcs to each other11:58
Kilosbut through a otr server , dcc is supposed to be pc to pc11:58
bushtech_-*- bushtech not that paranoid11:59
Kilosya nor me that bad but some are11:59
Kilosyou can also dcc packages12:03
Kilosive never got that working yet12:03
Kiloshttp://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/dccspec.html12:04
Kilosi dont understand most of that12:04
Kilosmaybe i go get some UVs while the sun still has some guts12:06
KilosMaaz watch them12:06
Maazoh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!12:06
KilosMaaz ty12:06
MaazYou are welcome Kilos12:06
bushtech_Kilos: too complicated for me12:07
Kilosons toppies sukkel met die nuwe goed12:19
bushtech_ja sug!12:24
Kiloshi pavlushka 13:13
pavlushkaHello Kilos !13:14
Kiloshi skokkk Cryterion Private_User 14:20
skokkkKilos, is that a script?14:20
Kiloswhat?14:20
skokkkthe welcome messages?14:20
Kiloslol no man its me14:20
skokkkso friendly :o14:21
Kilosotherwise it would answer instantly14:21
skokkkit sort of does lol14:21
Kilosi am supposed to be the greeter bot here14:21
skokkkwell you're doing a good job :)14:22
Kilosother wise superfly and inetpro fight with me14:22
Kilosand suspend my privileges14:22
superflyKilos: it took you 6 minutes to greet!  That is unacceptable! :-P14:22
Kiloslike no free cyber coffee14:23
Kilossee skokkk 14:23
Cryteriontook hime over an hour to greet me14:23
Cryterionhim*14:23
CryterionHi everyone14:23
Kilossorry superfly i been busy finding a swahili trnslator14:23
Cryteriongoogle14:23
Kilosgogle what14:23
Kilosgoogle too14:24
Cryteriongoogle translate14:24
Kilosnono man14:24
Kilosa real one14:24
skokkklol good luck?14:24
superflyMaaz: no coffee for Kilos!14:24
Maazsuperfly: Huh?14:24
Cryterionhmm, can't help sorry14:24
Kilosi have one14:24
superflyKilos: You'd better say thanks to Maaz, he ignored my request to take your coffee privileges away :-P14:25
KilosMaaz ty14:25
MaazYou are welcome Kilos14:25
KilosMaaz botsnack14:25
MaazYAY someone cares about me too!14:25
KilosMaaz coffee please14:25
MaazKilos: There isn't a pot on14:25
Cryterionlol14:26
KilosMaaz coffee on14:26
* Maaz washes some mugs14:26
Cryterionhe's only cleaning them now?14:26
Kilosyeah14:26
Kilosa translator is wanted for this game14:27
Kiloshttp://raisingphoenicia.com14:27
Kilosand can be translated to other languages if anyone is interested14:27
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!14:30
KilosMaaz danke14:30
MaazBitteschön14:30
KilosPrivate_User you just become a lurker now14:30
Kilosor you just ashamed for being on windows14:31
Kiloswe allow windows users if they put a please before and after every post14:32
* Cryterion agrees14:32
Kiloslol14:32
* mazal mompel iets14:33
Kiloshaha uitgevang ne14:33
mazalOom forgot the sir part14:33
Kilosshould be please mopmpel iets please14:33
mazalEvery sentence starts and ends with sir14:33
Kilosthats army14:33
mazalHoe gaanit oom ?14:34
Kiloswe are layed back cool kids14:34
mazalHi Cryterion 14:34
Kilosgoed dankie en self deun14:34
Kilosseun14:34
mazalGoed goed , het heerlike dag gehad14:34
Kilosmooi wat het jy aangevang14:34
mazalOpgestaan met koek en koffie , toe gebraai en toe is ek gevat vir roomys14:35
Kilossjoe nou is ek jaloers14:35
mazalGood times with good friends soos hulle seg14:35
Kilosyip14:35
mazalBehalwe vir oom wat my nie wou groet vanmore nie :(14:35
Kilosskuus man ek was kwaai besig14:36
mazalhehehehe14:36
Kilosek dink14:36
mazalMet hdd saam LangJan14:36
Kilosparty keer is ek net blind14:36
Kiloso ja14:36
Kilosshame hy sukkel met n tannie se pc14:37
Cryterionheya mazal14:37
Kilosmaar hy bring nog toppies na ubuntu14:38
mazalThe more the merrier14:38
mazalShees did I spell that right ?14:38
Kilosja14:38
Cryterionthink so14:39
Kiloslooks funny though hey14:39
KilosMaaz spell merrier14:39
MaazKilos: Yes, you *can* spell14:39
mazalMy spellchecker crazy , almost 80% of my stuff is underlined. Dunno why14:39
mazalEven stuff I know is spelled right14:39
Kilosi turned mine off14:39
Cryterionhttp://www.dictionary.com/browse/merrier14:39
LangjanHi allie jongmanne15:38
Langjanen Kilos 15:38
Kiloshi Langjan 15:39
Kiloshoe lyk dit nou15:39
LangjanGoed dankie en by jou?15:39
Kilosook goed dankie15:40
Kiloshey jy die ding weer aan die gang?15:40
LangjanMooi so. Die bios op die ou masjiene is seker soos ou ooms - vergeet gou?15:40
Kiloslol15:40
LangjanOf hoe lank moet ek hom ontkoppel?15:40
Kilosbaie is net 5 of 10 minute15:40
Langjanso jy dink dis tyd om weer te probeer15:41
Kilosek het n paar gehad wat ek moes heel nag los15:41
Kilosja15:41
Langjanok kom ons kyk weer more15:41
Langjandalk het hierdie een nie alzies nie15:41
Kiloskry net die ding om te boot van cd15:41
Kilosneema n nou15:42
Langjanjys 'n regte slawedrywer15:42
Kiloslol15:42
Kiloshet dit vergeet of nie15:42
Langjanmaster and slave15:42
Langjanek weet nie, moet eers al die drade inprop, hoop ek onthou waar...15:43
Kiloslol15:43
Kilosjy kan even probeer boot van 12.04 sonder dat die hardeskyf gekoppel is15:44
Kilosons moet net sien of die cd werk of nie15:44
Kilosof jy kan soek vir usb boot goed15:44
Langjanja op instruksie van die slawedrywer15:44
Kilosnee man15:45
Langjanlyk nie of daai usb werk nie15:45
Kilosjy my vriend nie my slaaf nie15:45
Kiloswatter usb15:45
Kiloshet jy bios gestel om van usb te boot15:45
Langjanop die ou masjien, maar daar is nog agter15:45
Langjandaar is nie, was nie so 'n opsie nie15:46
Kilosja gebruik agter15:46
Kilosai!15:46
Langjannou wil windows eers update, eish!15:46
Kilosdan moet ons n cd ding kry wat reg werk15:46
Kilossit altyd alle windows updates af15:47
Langjannou reen dit op Warmbad -  lekker!15:47
Kiloswaar kom windows nou vandaan15:47
LangjanJa ek dink ek moet dit doen15:47
Kilossjoe15:47
LangjanJuanita se rekenaar dual boot, ek hardloop my Genealogieprogram op hom en op my VBox wat nog nie weer werk nie15:48
Kilossjoe15:48
Kilosop watter masjien werk ons nou15:48
LangjanOp myne15:48
Langjanmy desktop15:48
Langjanssd15:49
Kilosok15:49
Kilosen die tanie sn?15:49
Kilostannie15:49
Langjanek gebruik haar skerm en Internet kabel vir die ou meneer15:49
Langjanhiers nie plek vir nog 'n skerm nie15:50
Kilosas haar masjien nie die cd ding wil doen nie instaleer 12.04 op jou pc15:50
LangjanSy sal jou moer as jy haar tannie noem...15:50
Kilosdie ene met die ossewa?15:51
Langjannee man, Juanita15:51
Kilosis sy nie n tannie nie?15:51
Langjanek dog jy meen haar15:51
Kiloswil jy my epos adres leen15:51
Langjanhoekom?15:51
Kiloswel15:52
Kilosdie domdonner deel kan pas as jy so deurmekaar dink15:52
LangjanDis jy wat my deurmekruis maak, slawedrywer15:52
Kilosinetpro leen dit nou en dan ook15:52
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Kilosekke?15:53
Kilosek is onskuldig15:53
LangjanJa ja, moet ek eers sonder die hardeskyf probeer?15:56
Kilosja probeer15:56
Kilosas dit werk dan weet ons die cdrom werk darem15:56
Kilosprocess of elimination15:57
Langjanok would not show bios before I connected the hard drive16:03
Kilostry again and hit del early16:03
Langjanlooking at boot options, have set cd rom no 1 but what are LS120 and SCS1?16:03
Kilosoh16:03
Langjanthere aslo floppy16:04
Kiloswhat does the harddrive show as16:04
Langjanand hdd 0,1 2 and 316:04
Kilos016:05
Kiloshdd second boot16:05
Langjanno details shown, means it is not picking up?16:05
Langjanhdd 0?16:05
Kilosja16:05
Kilos0 is the first one16:06
Langjanand third boot?16:06
Kilossomewhere in bios you can search drives16:06
Langjanlets have a look16:06
Kilosthird you can make cdrom too16:06
Kiloswhere it shows hdd click it and should show something16:07
Kilosotherwise mbr isnt there16:07
Kilosif it can just boot from cd we are smiling16:08
Langjanit still picks up Linux ubuntu16:08
Kilosthen we zero the hdd and it will act like a new one then bios will write new mbr16:08
Kilosoh you see it16:09
LangjanIt gives ide primary master=none, primary slave is hdd16:10
Kilosyou using second connector on cable?16:11
Langjanyes16:11
Kilosfirst one is the master position16:11
Kilosoh16:11
Kilosi mean16:11
Langjanlees jy nie seun? 16:11
Kilosone goes into motherboard16:11
Kilos2 must be in drive16:12
Kilos3 goes to cd16:12
Langjannow I'm lost16:12
Kilosif you see drive as slave then you need to move the strap  at the back16:12
Kiloslook at the cable16:12
Kiloshas it got 3 plugs16:12
Kilosone goes into motherboard16:13
LangjanI know about the jumper, they messed with it when we tried to boot where they built the thing 16:13
Kiloshow many ide cables are there16:13
Kilosjumper must be fr master16:13
Kilosone the drive should be a sticker or painted on which position does what16:14
Langjanbroad cable goes to cd, one to hdd and one to MB16:17
Kilosnot all one cable?16:18
Langjansmall 4-point connectors to same16:18
Langjanlooks like one cable16:18
Kilosok16:18
Kilosso the end of that cable must go to cd16:18
Langjanyes16:19
Langjanone end to cd, one to MB, middle one to hdd16:19
Kilosthen it must be jumper on drive making hdd the slave16:19
Kilosyes thats right16:19
Langjanso I must put jumper in fr slot?16:20
Kilosmaybe whoever did it made the cd the master16:20
Kilosfr?16:20
Langjanthats what you said16:20
Kilosoh my16:20
Langjanfr master16:20
Langjanlet me take it out so I can see the markings16:21
Kilosthat was supposed to be for master16:21
Kilosnot fr16:21
Kilosyoull most likely need to check the cd as well. that  must be slave16:21
Kiloscould work other way around too i spose16:22
Kilosbut i got into the habit of making my drive the master16:23
Kilosnow you must suffer for my habits16:23
Langjanhdd jumper positions - dont see marks16:24
Kilosai!16:24
Kiloshow many positions where the jumper goes in16:25
Langjanfour16:25
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Kilosone on left is master i think16:25
Langjanits in the one closest to the 4-pin plug16:25
Kiloslet me look for a drive16:25
Langjanleft looking from top or bottom?16:25
Kiloslooking at the connectors with top of drive to the top of course16:26
Langjancd is on SL16:27
Langjanhdd jumper is on far right16:27
Langjanwhaddaya mean "of course" - nothing is for granted with you geeks16:28
Kilosnothing anywhere in the writing on top thats shows the jumper use16:28
Langjanlet me get magnifier16:29
Langjanmaster on slave of is opposite end to where it is now16:31
Kiloshuh16:32
Langjanother position is "cable select"16:32
Langjanis the second position from left16:32
Kilosuse the master pins16:32
Langjanso maste on is left side, cable select is second from left and jumper is on the right16:33
Kilosok16:33
Kilosyou found the diagram16:33
Kilosdidnt i say master on the left16:34
Kilosonly drives i have here are in desktop16:34
Kilosforgot i gave the rest to ian16:34
Langjanand the cd?16:34
Kilosbut if you see what must go where thats good16:35
Kilosok they most liely have cd as master16:35
LangjanCS, SL or MA16:35
Kilosmake cd slave16:35
Kilossl16:35
Langjanok thats where it is16:35
Kilossjoe16:36
Kilosso both were slave16:36
Kilosno wonder it didnt work16:36
Langjanok try again?16:36
Kilosmaybe now it will boot from cd16:37
Kilosi had one pc i actually had to use a second cable for the cd16:37
Kilosyip go for it16:37
Kilosi just dunno why it goes to grub if you formatted it16:37
Langjanbeautiful ubuntu cd running16:43
Kilosw0000t16:43
LangjanNow A for Away!16:44
LangjanYou genius slave-driver you...16:44
Langjanit's singing a song of joy16:44
Kilossee im not just a pretty face16:44
Kiloshaha16:44
Langjannooooo16:44
Langjanpretty inside and out16:44
Kilosnono im ugly now16:45
Kiloseven debs says almost handsome16:45
Kiloshaha16:45
Kilosso cheeky16:45
Langjanb..s..t16:45
Langjanwith another l16:45
Kilosim lost16:45
Kiloswhere you learn that slang16:46
Langjanbulls..t16:46
Kilosoh16:46
Kiloshaha16:46
Langjanyour nbot ugly16:46
Langjannot 16:46
Kilosi am actually16:46
Kiloshave a boozers nose from years of meds16:46
Kilosbut i have a cute smile16:47
Langjanonly in your mind's eye, not in mine or in your Maker's16:47
Kilosty16:48
Kiloskeep us informed of progress16:48
Kilosim happy something is worki ng at last16:49
Langjanonce I have 12.04 lts, can I not upgrade to 14.04 via the Internet?16:49
Langjanwill do thks16:49
Kilosbetter to use 14.04 from starters then16:49
Kilos12.04 was much lighter though16:49
Langjanwell it cannot take dvd16:50
Langjanlet go with 12.04, she only uses it for very basic stuff16:50
Kilosthat could also be because of that jumper16:50
Kilosthen 12.04 should be fine16:50
Kiloswen  jy Langjan 17:31
Kilosjy moet wen voor dit my slaap tyd is toppie17:36
LangjanKilos, ubi partman chashed with exit code 10. Have Googled prob and am continuing17:39
Kilostry it from cd17:39
Kiloslike'17:40
Langjantry what?17:40
Kilosboot from cd then try not install17:40
Kilosthen mount the drive and install mbr17:40
Kilosim sure the mbr is unhappy thats why you battling with partitions17:41
Langjanok thks, just doing disk check, will do then. you not watching lions and capies?17:41
Kilosjust eaten17:42
Kilosother way is to zero the drive and reboot and hope the motherboard writes new mbr17:43
Kilostry whatever you are trying and tomorrow if nothing worked we can zero it17:44
Langjanok will do thks17:48
pavlushkaI am back Kilos ! and every one!17:48
Kilosgood luck though oom17:48
Kiloshi pavlushka 17:48
pavlushkaHeya Kilos !17:48
Kilosfrom the live cd install mbr then do=the install17:49
pavlushkaanyone free?17:49
pavlushkacan anyone help me with porting cwm rom on android??????17:52
LangjanKilos,  how do I go about mbr?17:58
Kilosyou on live cd?17:58
Langjanyes17:58
Kilosthen you have to mount drive17:59
Kilosthen when mounted install mbr17:59
Langjanmount drive?17:59
Kilosmaybe someone can help with the mounting17:59
Kiloswas a command like sudo mount /dev/sda1 --mnt or something18:00
Kilosthen from same terminal apt-get install mbr --reinstall maybe18:00
Kiloskulelu88 wb18:01
kulelu88yo Kilos 18:01
Kiloshelp oom jan mount and install from live cd please18:01
kulelu88does anybody use broadband/3G for their internet access?18:01
Kilosive forgotten the commands18:01
Kilosi use 3g ya18:01
kulelu88mount and install? 18:02
Kiloshe has a drive thats battling to install to18:02
Kilosi think mbr sick18:02
kulelu88Oom Jan please share some more info18:02
Kilosso i suggested he mount it and install or reinstall mbr18:02
Langjanhi kulelu88 18:03
Kiloswhy you want to know about 3g18:03
kulelu88hoegaanit my oom18:03
Langjangoed dankie en met jou?18:03
Kilosubi partman chashed with exit code 10. 18:04
kulelu88Lekker oom18:06
kulelu88I cannot connect to a proxy through broadband18:06
LangjanMooi so18:06
kulelu88Trying to see if anybody else has these issues18:06
Kilosi use the no proxy option all over18:07
kulelu88Let's see if we can debug oom Jans issues. What error are you getting oom?18:07
kulelu88I can connect to the proxy, but then internet doesn't work18:07
magespawngood evening18:07
Kiloshi magespawn 18:07
LangjanOn install getting ubi partman crash with exit code 1018:07
Langjannow running on live cd try ubuntu18:08
kulelu88that's a verbose error. Let me search for that18:08
LangjanRunning on live cd I'm getting warning here is only a few MB disk space left...?18:16
Kilosopen gparted and see18:17
LangjanIt says 1,4 Gb total, but the hdd is 160 GB18:17
Kilosdelete all partitions18:17
Kilosif gparted doesnt  work try disks and delete all partitions then create one full size partition18:18
pavlushkaKilos: does Langjan uses windows side by side?18:19
Kilosnope18:19
pavlushkaand his partitions are of what type?18:20
kulelu88looks like possibly an old partition 18:20
Kiloshe has been battling to try install 12.0418:20
pavlushkaKilos: his data?18:20
KilosLangjan are you brave18:21
Kilosno data18:21
Kilosnew install18:21
Kilosno data to lose18:21
Langjan/dev/sda1 ext 4 148Gb18:21
Langjan/dev/sda2 extended 1022mib18:21
pavlushkagood, but you should make some other ext4 partitions in case of system crash.18:22
Langjan/dev/sda5 linux swap 1022mib18:22
pavlushkaHa HA ha18:22
Langjanthose are what gparted shows18:22
Langjanwat is snaaks/18:23
Kilosdelete them all18:23
Langjanpavlushka, 18:23
pavlushkaLangjan: delete partition table and create new partitions, a bit more organized way.18:23
pavlushkaLangjan: go with Kilos !18:23
KilosLangjan qhe doesnt understand afrikaans18:23
Kiloshe is in bangladesh18:23
Langjanok big one is deleted, others do not react18:24
Langjannow shows 148 GBunallocated18:25
Kilosok close gparted18:25
Kilosthen run disk utility18:25
Langjanoperation pending18:25
Kilosai!18:25
pavlushkaLangjan: your primary partition is 148 GB, and extended is 1022 mib18:26
Kilosits corrupt18:26
Langjanwhats it doing?18:26
Kiloscant you close gparted18:26
pavlushkaKilos: what size you recommend him for his primary partition?18:27
LangjanI can but it says operation pending...18:27
Kilosi use 40g /root18:27
Kilos4g swap18:27
Kilosten large /home18:27
Langjanok I had to apply...dommie18:27
pavlushkaKilos: I would go with you.18:27
Kilosthen some at the end for storage and backup18:28
Kilosok Langjan open disks18:28
Kiloshopefully that version shows the formay to mbr option18:28
Langjannothing shown under disks18:29
Kilosdisk utility18:29
Langjanok what to do?18:30
Kilosis it open18:30
Langjanyes18:30
Kilosand shows the drive18:30
Kilosok18:30
Langjanyes18:30
Kiloslook at the format options18:31
Kilosone should show format to mbr18:31
Kilosmaybe you need to delete all partitions it still sees18:31
pavlushkaKilos: I think so.18:31
Langjanok shows mbr18:31
kulelu88don't make too many partitions18:32
kulelu88Just do 1 main and 1 swap, unless you don't own an HDD18:32
kulelu88*external HDD18:32
Kilosdes it show format to mbr18:32
kulelu88then maybe add a backup partition18:32
Langjanformat to mbr?18:32
kulelu88the previous problem was that it was trying to install ubuntu on the swap memory18:32
Kilosthis is for an ol ladt kulelu88 18:32
Langjanright, she only uses the computer to type a few letters18:33
Kilosyes one of the format options shows mbt with a little arrow that shows more options18:33
Kiloschoose the mbr18:33
Langjanright18:33
Kilosthen format18:34
pavlushkaping inetpro ! How are you?18:34
KilosMaaz seen inetpro 18:34
MaazKilos: inetpro was last seen 14 hours, 12 minutes and 48 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-15 21:21:42 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-14 06:48:40 PDT18:34
Langjanoperation failed18:34
Kiloshe maybe away for the weekend18:34
Kilosuh oh18:34
Langjanerror creating partition table18:35
pavlushkaKilos: cp18:35
Kilosok les zero the thing18:35
Kiloslet me find the command18:35
pavlushkaKilos: have you tried low level format tool?18:36
Kiloslong ago18:36
pavlushkaIts the last mile.18:36
pavlushkabut can give you back your HDD.18:36
Kilosso can zeroing it18:37
Kilosmakes the drive like a new one never installed before18:37
Kilosand with a good mbr18:37
Kilosim just trying to find the command Langjan 18:38
Langjanthks sound right18:38
kulelu88try formatting the HDD from the bootloader18:41
kulelu88I mean BIOS sorry18:41
kulelu88low-level stuff is only fun with micro-electronics18:41
KilosLangjan have coffee so long i need to check on desktop drives for where i saved it18:43
Kilossigh18:44
Langjanthks Kilos some excellent rugby going on18:45
=== mazal-game is now known as mazal
kulelu88are the bulls playing?18:45
Kilosbulls beat reds18:45
kulelu88rugby looks so weird when you watch it live18:46
Langjanlions and stormers, 23 / 22 to lions18:46
Langjan14 mins remain18:47
Kilosok Langjan you ready18:47
Langjanyes18:48
Kilosin terminal18:48
Langjanthks18:48
Kilossudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=118:48
Kilosswairt18:48
Kiloswait18:48
Kilossda18:48
pavlushkaLangjan: Kilos meant "of=/dev/sda"18:49
Kilossudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=118:49
Kilosthen reboot and install18:49
Langjanclose disk utility?18:49
Kilosand choose use whole disk18:49
Kilosclse everything first18:49
pavlushkaLangjan: yes18:50
Kilosthe command will make it like there has never been anything on the drive18:50
Kilosthen hopefully motherboard will write a good mbr18:52
Kilosyou will need to go chat from your pc18:53
LangjanI am on my pc18:53
Kilosonce 12.04 is installed we will use gparted to resize some space for a backup area18:54
Kilosoh18:54
Kilosi thought you were chatting from the live cd18:54
Kilosyou can do that as well18:54
Kilosubutntu rocks18:55
Kilosubuntu18:55
Kiloswhew starting to struggle here18:55
Langjannothing much hapened Kilos , it just ejected cd then restrted and asked for media18:56
Kilosput cd in and install18:56
Langjanafter that command I thought it will take time18:56
Kiloschoose use whole drive hey18:57
LangjanYes will do18:57
Kilosno its instant18:57
Langjanoh ok18:57
Langjanwow18:57
Kilosvery powerful dangerous command18:57
Kiloswiped my 1TB drive instantly18:57
Langjanand I was sitting right here, why not warn me? 18:57
Kilosby accident18:57
Kiloslol18:57
Kilosas long as motherboard and bios are good that is now a good drive18:58
Kiloswith nothing on it18:59
Langjanok installing on 160Gb18:59
Kilosyay18:59
Kilosthere new mbr18:59
Langjanlions 29 stormers 2219:00
Kilosthat matches that pc19:00
Kiloswow lions win19:06
Kiloskulelu88 dont you watch rugby normally19:06
Langjanyes well played19:07
Langjanfailed again19:07
Kilosoh my19:07
Kilossame thing?19:07
Langjanlooks like yes19:07
Kilossomething not happy with that drive19:09
Kiloslets run badblocks and see19:09
Langjanok19:09
Kilossudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result19:09
Kiloswill take a while19:10
Langjantakes forever to open terminal19:11
Kilosai!19:11
Langjannot showing...19:12
Langjanaha19:12
Kiloshas it finished running?19:12
Kilosit gives a report after everything19:12
Kilosruns long time19:12
Kiloshave you got another drive you can try Langjan 19:14
Langjanunfortunately not, its not showing anything - should it?19:15
Kilosyes when it goes back to prompt 19:15
Kilosit says no bad blocks or som many bad blocks19:15
LangjanA small terminal opened at the top and prompted "type your command" then disappeared 19:16
Langjannow nothing shows19:16
Kilosyour terminal gone too?19:17
Langjannothing running, just desktop19:17
Langjanyes terminal gone19:17
Kilosoh my19:17
Kiloswhat have you broken now19:17
Kiloshehe19:17
Kiloscan you open another terminal19:18
Langjanctrl/alt/T shows nothing19:18
Kilosoh my19:19
Kiloshere is the story for bad blocks whe  you have a drive getting old19:19
Kiloshttps://bin.snyman.info/mmmzjsut19:19
Kilossimilar to what chkdsk does on win19:19
Kilosjust better19:20
KilosLangjan we try once more19:20
Kilosrun the zero cammand again19:20
Kilosthen reboot and install19:21
Langjanzero command?19:21
Kilosif it still doent work we look for another drive19:21
Kiloswait i get it for you19:21
Langjanis there another way to open terminal?19:22
Kilossudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=119:22
Kilosin dash yes19:22
Kilostype terminal i dash19:22
Langjanok here we go19:23
Kilosi can give you an 80g drive for her19:23
Kiloswhat a pity that drive is unhappy19:24
kulelu88it's weird that lions have so many good players but that old boks guy took his oupas to the rugby world cup19:24
Kiloslol19:25
Langjanagreed, weirdos19:25
Langjanmoney...19:25
Kilosthis whole supers and curry cup story is a mess up19:25
Langjanok so reboot and install?19:25
Kilosyou cant have the best players plaing in to series19:26
Kilosyessit Langjan 19:26
pavlushkaLangjan: yes please, lol19:26
Kilosyessir and lets hope it goes further19:26
Kiloswow sorry for all the typos19:26
* pavlushka finger's crossed19:27
kulelu88they say rugby and cricket is an old boys club, where the previous players kids and friends kids get chosen first19:27
Langjanno stop or reboot option in menu, only suspend...weird19:27
pavlushkatype in terminal19:27
Kilossudo reboot19:27
Langjanthks19:27
pavlushkaHi magespawn !19:28
Kiloswhen did magespawn slip in/19:28
pavlushkalol19:29
Langjanthanks for fingers crossed pavlushka 19:29
Kilosi even have my legs crossed here19:31
Kilossad when a drive gives up19:31
kulelu88probably cause its cold Kilos 19:31
Kiloslol19:31
Langjanlegs crossed? go quick Kilos 19:31
Kilosyeah to keep my feet warm19:32
pavlushkaKilos: lol @ that19:32
Langjanlmga vir die ou manne19:32
Kiloshaha19:32
Langjanoom Kilos 19:32
Kilospoor bushtech even gave up with his connection19:32
Langjanfeet will get warm but then cold...19:33
Kilosnono when warm ill go to bed19:33
Kiloswell get under the duvet19:34
Kilosim on the bed already19:34
Kilosis it installing langjan19:34
pavlushkaKilos: keeping legs crossed while sitting for a long time is risky.19:34
Langjanso far so good19:35
Kilosif it doesnt work we partition so that first 20g isnt used19:35
Kilosthen cross fingers again19:35
pavlushkabut when its cold here, even I forget that.19:35
Kiloslol19:35
Langjanyes, unrecoverable error19:35
Kiloseish19:36
Langjanwe can skip first 80 GB19:36
Langjanshe will not use much19:36
Kilosok open gparted19:36
Kilosand make partitions19:36
Kilosfirst 40 dont use19:36
pavlushkabut what about MBR?19:37
Kilosmbr is before that'19:37
Kilosmbr is in os pc wouldnt see the drib=ve19:37
Kilosdrive19:37
Kilossos/or19:38
Kilosai!19:38
Kiloss/os/or19:38
LangjanIt says there are 2 active partitions, cannot create new partition19:39
Kilosdelete them19:39
Kilosso you have empty drive19:40
Langjandoes not give delete option, 19:41
Kilosthen create one of 40g but dont add a mount point19:41
Langjandelete shows but inactive19:41
Kilostry19:41
Kilossudo umount /dev/sda119:41
Kilosor sda19:41
Kilosthen see if you can delete them19:42
Langjanumount?19:42
Kilosyes19:42
Langjannot unmount?19:42
Kilosthats the linux unmount command19:42
Kilosumount19:42
Langjanok sorry19:42
Kilosnp19:43
Kiloshehe19:43
kulelu88you not making children anymore oom Kilos , so not so risky :D19:44
Kiloshahahaha19:44
Kiloswarm feet better ya19:44
kulelu88you at home everyday Kilos ?19:45
Kilosyes19:45
Langjanok only the big one deleted19:45
Kilosok Langjan 19:45
kulelu88you don't get bored? 19:45
Kilosdoes it show whole drive as unpartitioned19:46
Kilosno i look after sheep and wash dishes19:46
Kilosand sometimes cook19:46
Kilosand do fencing19:46
Langjanno, 148 gb unallocated and the two small partitions still there19:46
Kilosand irc19:46
Kiloswow19:46
Langjanextended and swap19:46
Kilosi wonder what is in them19:46
Kilosoh19:46
Kilosok create 40g19:47
Kilosno formatting or mount point19:48
Kilosand apply after each step19:48
Langjancreate partition table?19:48
Kilostick top where it say partition19:49
Kilosthe add i think19:49
Kilostell me when done19:49
Langjannothing active there except "information"19:49
Kilosholy moly19:50
Kilosclose gparted\19:50
Langjanoh sorry, and new19:50
Kilosya new19:50
Kiloswhew i forgot new19:51
Kilosnew 40g with no mount point and format not ticked19:51
Langjanok how I do that? Free space before?19:52
Kilosjust change the size19:52
Kilosforget the free space stuff and leave as is19:53
kulelu88the partitions are being created by themselves, especially if the system is low on RAM, so swap will get made automatically19:53
kulelu88IIRC19:53
Langjanok I see, so I have moved the left border to leave 40GB?19:53
kulelu88Langjan: ubuntu 12.04 LTS is no longer supported. You should use 14.0419:53
Kilosyes on a clean install without manual partitioning it makes its own swap19:53
Kilostick freespace19:54
Kilosthe new again19:54
Kilos12.04 has 1 years still19:54
Kilosexpires 201719:54
Kiloslts are 5 years19:55
Langjanmust I now format new partition to?19:55
Kilosthis new one we make now you tick format19:55
Langjanext 4?19:56
Kilos36 gig ext419:56
Kilosmountpoint /19:56
Langjanmountpoint?19:58
Kilosroot19:58
Langjanroot?19:58
Kilosnear bottom is mountpoint19:58
Kilostish thearrow on the right of the block and choose the / sign19:59
Kilosthats your root folder19:59
Kilosroot partition19:59
Kilosyou see it?20:00
Langjanbottom of what? there no arrow20:00
Langjanno20:00
Kilosnee man20:00
Langjanin gparted?20:00
Kilosdid you tick new20:00
Kilosyes20:00
Langjanyes20:00
Kilosthat opens a window20:00
Kiloswhere you choose size20:01
Langjantheres ane dev/sda1 partition20:01
Kilostick once on free space20:01
Langjana new 20:01
Kilos'then choose new or add20:01
Langjantheres no free space20:01
Kiloswhat20:01
Langjanonly unallocated and new partition20:01
Kilosyou made a 36 gig partiton20:02
Langjanytes20:02
Langjanyes20:02
Kilosunallocated then how big20:02
Langjanabout 100 gb20:02
Kilosright tick it and then new20:02
Kilostell me what you see20:03
Kilosshould be same as when you made first new one20:03
Langjansorry, the dev sda is 100 gb the unallocated is 5520:03
Langjanthought you wanted to leave the first part open20:04
Kilos36g unused20:04
Kilosthe rest we use20:04
Langjanyes thats about it20:04
Kilosif you see a thing that says beginning of drive for the 35g then tick it20:05
Langjanso I have formatted 100 gb to dev sda20:05
Kilosok so 36 from 140 is 10420:05
Kilosnothing formatted yet20:05
Kilosthese will all be /sda1 and 5 and 7 etc20:06
Kilossa is the whole drive20:06
LangjanI have formatted 100gb to dev/sda120:06
Kilossda20:06
Kilossomething wrong20:06
Kilosdelete everything again20:06
Langjanok20:07
Kilosthen listen carefully and we do one step at a time20:07
Kilosafter you apply you should have 140g unallocated20:08
Kiloskeep me informed please20:08
Langjanok unallocated is 148 gb20:09
Kilosyay20:09
Kilostick once on it20:09
Kiloshighlight it i think its called20:09
Kilosthen choose partition at the top20:10
Kilosand in that new20:10
Kilostell when ready20:10
Langjansomethings awry, mouse not working20:11
Kiloswow20:11
Kiloshehe20:11
Kilosmurphy is sitting on your shoulder20:12
Langjankom ons gaan slaap probeer more weer20:12
Kilosreboot to try u buntu gain20:12
Kiloslets just see if we can get 2 partitions20:12
Kilosi go wee while you reboot20:12
Kilosand open gparted20:12
Kilosif you would rather try again tomorrow oom jan thats fine with me too20:15
Kilosi think that drive is messed20:15
LangjanI dont want to keep you from bed...20:15
Langjanits not urgent to do now20:16
Kilosforget about me man20:16
Kilosif you arent tired we can go on20:16
Langjanhow can I forget my slave/driver?20:16
Kiloshahaha20:16
Langjanok opening ubuntu try phase20:17
Langjangparted open shows 55 gb unallocated and 93gb dev/sda120:18
Langjanmust I delete again?20:19
Kilosdelete all20:19
Kilosthen we have 148g unallocated20:20
Langjannothing is reacting to clicks...20:20
Kilossda1 not highlighting?20:21
Langjansystem frozen20:21
Langjanno20:21
Kilosoh mhy20:21
Langjanscreen flashes black and mouse cursor comes and goes20:21
Kilosbrush murphy off you shoulder20:22
Kilosor run outside and brush him off20:22
Kilosthen come turn off pc and we try tomorrow20:22
Kilossometing very sick there20:23
Langjanlets go sleep, I got up at 03:4520:23
Langjanyes agreed20:23
Langjanslaap lekker  20:23
Kilosmaybe pull battery and power plug for the night20:23
Langjanok will do20:23
Kiloslekker slaap julle ook20:23
Langjandankie20:23
Kilosnight my friend20:23
Kilosanytime20:23
Kilosi think we need anothedr drive20:24
Kilossee you tomorrow20:24
Langjangoeienag slawedrywer, the guys seem to be able to get a drive from Pretoria20:24
Langjanso perhaps rthats the way to go20:24
Kilosthe guys?20:24
Langjanwho built the computer20:24
Kilosok 20:25
Kilosnew or secon=d hand20:25
Langjanbaie dankie 20:25
Langjansecondhand20:25
Kilosok but we can try bypass bad area on this one as well20:26
Kilosbe interesting20:26
Langjanok lets see tomorrow20:26
Kilossee you tomorrow20:26
Kilostell juanita i didnt call her tannie20:26
Kiloslekker slaap20:26
Langjanthkas good and reliable friend  20:26
Langjanwill do 20:26
Kilosnight all, sleep tight20:26
Kilosnight kulelu88 20:27
pavlushkagoodnight acery one!20:52

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