[04:21] good evening everyone [05:30] morning everyone [05:31] Wolfeyes: Morning [05:31] :) [05:32] How you zipper [05:35] Doing great [05:38] Well that is awesome, where you from zipper? [05:42] oh boy [05:46] brb [06:05] good morning [06:12] morning all [06:16] Kilos: Hello [06:17] hi zipper [06:17] I got her email address. [06:17] cool ty [06:17] do you have mine [06:17] Not at all [06:17] or must i rather give you his [06:18] No requirements [06:18] I take all forms of contact currenct [06:18] *currency [06:18] Let me PM you [06:18] ok [06:30] ai! bad connection day it seems === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [06:34] hi kmf [06:34] everyone is either sleeping late or shopping already [06:42] hi bushtech [06:43] morning Kilos [07:02] Goeiemore manne, lekker geslaap? [07:02] more Langjan ja dankie en jy [07:03] net gister se buite werk klap kop vandag ietwat [07:03] so ek kan stadig wees [07:03] eks van voor 4 afop om rugby te kyk [07:04] ai! [07:04] Singapore sevens [07:04] ek maak hek opp vir sus gou [07:04] ok [07:04] oop [07:04] bed op en hek oop [07:04] sharks net nou [07:04] ja! [07:06] The drive is just cd so I tried Ubuntu 12.04 on cd, still no luck now hd is running on my machine ready to be formatted but dont know if its sda, sdb? [07:08] lol [07:08] is it ide [07:09] and yours sata? [07:09] Dont know [07:10] has the drive for her got a broad cable to connect [07:10] sata is a thing cable [07:10] thin [07:10] yes both have [07:10] ok so both ide [07:10] no sorry mine is ssd [07:10] small cable [07:10] ok [07:11] so yours is sata [07:11] if you say so [07:11] iirc the ide always grabs sda [07:11] ? [07:11] if i remember correctly [07:12] open disks [07:12] http://askubuntu.com/questions/488213/how-to-add-a-second-hard-drive-to-an-already-installed-xubuntu-14-04 [07:12] ok [07:12] what all is on the xubuntu drive [07:13] maybe you can see by checking size [07:14] you know you can just put your dvdrom in there and install 14.04 [07:14] 158 GB et 4 partition and two small 2.1, one is swap the other extended [07:14] oh [07:15] ok [07:16] It wont mess my running system up? [07:17] what [07:17] removing the dvdrom? [07:18] oh you men put my dvd rom in that machine? [07:18] yes [07:18] 12.04 expires next year i think [07:18] its not well, I have to open it with a paper clip, waiting for a new one [07:19] can I not install it via my machine? [07:19] oh ok then [07:20] if you install by you then move the drive all the hardware stuff will be different [07:20] yes makes sense [07:20] lets go with 12.04 for now [07:20] ok [07:20] ok so xubuntu is on the 160G drive [07:21] yes [07:21] in disks you tick on it then it will show [07:21] yes got it [07:21] Mornings [07:21] then you can delete anf format it [07:22] does it give the option to format to mbr [07:22] top format button i think [07:22] slow or fast [07:23] you should see 2 places that say format [07:23] fast is ok [07:23] overwrite and dont [07:23] is slow not better? [07:23] are you on ubuntu [07:23] yes [07:23] slow is deeper [07:24] I know, is that not better? [07:24] your choice [07:24] when you install 12.04 it will format again [07:25] partitioning is 3 options [07:25] you just want to remove the working OS [07:25] what does it say [07:25] no partion, compatible with all and compatble with modern [07:25] compatible with all will do [07:26] hopefully she has enough ram [07:27] i had no luck installing with less than 640m [07:27] Hope so [07:27] and old ram is hard to find [07:27] It has two modules let me check [07:28] only 2x 256MB [07:28] sjoe [07:29] will take a long time to install if it succeeds [07:29] OK they may have some more RASM, will see how it goes. Now Sharks, shat later... [07:30] RAM [07:30] ok [07:30] enjoy [07:30] thks [07:30] watching on computer dont have dstv [07:31] im watching on mnet sports [07:31] lucky fish [07:31] geniet! [07:31] Where you guys watching the rugby ? [07:31] links ? [07:31] dankie jy ook [07:31] http://cricfree.tv/watch/live/hsbc-sevens-series-singapore-live-streaming [07:31] dankie [07:32] just use adblock and try difereent stream options to get full screen [07:32] mazal, enjoy [07:48] Kilos, I have tried all the options, same result: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0) - hardegat hd hierdie! [07:51] try gparted [08:07] old drive, might not be 100% healthy [08:08] with disks one of the options for the format is format to mbr [08:08] thats the one you want [08:17] i think you first delete all the partitions then it shows the format to mbr [08:22] Partition manager says I dont have administrator privileges...?! [08:24] Cannot execute command ' '/usr/bin/partitionmanager-bin --dontsu''. [08:24] Thats what I get if I try to open gparted [08:27] are you opening gparted via terminal or gui? [08:30] I just clicked to open [08:30] ai! [08:30] it should have asked for password [08:30] should have popped up a window asking u to type in your password [08:31] It did [08:31] you can type in sudo gparted [08:31] if u typed in correct p/word should have opened [08:32] Password is very simple, cannot think I could have made an error [08:33] sudo: gparted: command not found [08:33] use disks again oom [08:34] same error message [08:34] oh my [08:35] look for that format option thats says mbr [08:35] remove and reinstall gparted? [08:35] not sure if its the top or the bottom one [08:36] I could not find that option, mbr [08:36] will delete and reinstall gparted [08:38] when you open in disks and click on that drive it should give all the info on the right [08:39] partitioning here shows master boot record [08:43] Now it shows "no media" which menas its been formatted/ [08:43] ? [08:44] in disks or gparted [08:46] i get lost [08:46] in disks, gparted does not want to know me [08:47] Hope Sharks dont also get lost [08:47] you see that tiny gear [08:47] yes [08:47] tick it [08:47] what format options you get? [08:47] I have, it shows almost no options now [08:48] none [08:48] as I said, it shows no media present [08:48] at the top in the info section? [08:49] does it see the drive [08:50] If I click on the drive in disks it shows there is nothing there, then the gear menu gives no formatting options, so something has obviously happened [08:50] lets see if we can find the command to formay to mbr [08:51] you have to click on a partition [08:51] bushtech ideas [08:51] oh [08:52] and then on the gear [08:52] Yes I did and gave you the outcome, which has changed from showing the contents to showing htere is nothing, so it seems it has been formattedo [08:53] i think mbr corrupt [08:53] ok create new partition [09:01] Re-installed partition manager remembers me as with no admin privileges, where do I delete its folder? [09:02] ai! [09:02] Eish [09:03] how can it forget [09:03] ai! [09:03] sudo touch /forcefsck [09:03] and reboot [09:31] how do I change my nick again?d [09:31] oh my [09:31] oh here [09:32] /nick langjan [09:32] /nick Langjan [09:33] ya that [09:33] no spaces to start [09:33] hehe [09:33] sharks played bad === jan__ is now known as Langjan [09:34] you showed space and lower case, only allowed one error per line...lmga [09:34] hahaha [09:34] Is it necessary to create partition before fresh install? [09:34] yes [09:35] otherwise there is nowhere to install to [09:35] wb bushtech [09:35] ok so must reinstall gparted first, which one, partition editor or partition manager? [09:36] disks [09:36] it must work [09:36] i liked the old disk utility in 12.04 [09:37] they keep changing things and make it harder for me [09:38] unity sigh [09:38] hehe [09:41] Sorry had to reboot to see the drive [09:41] np [09:42] Now it shows an ext 4 linu bootable partition [09:42] linux [09:42] yay [09:42] ok so now take it to other pc [09:42] ok [09:42] then bboot from 12.04 cd [09:43] right [09:43] 12.04 is supported till next year [09:43] sad about Sharkies but sevens doing well [09:43] very [09:44] i really enjoy sevens [09:47] just checking some memory sticks [09:53] 2x 512 MB yay [09:53] yay [09:53] 1 gig will be fine [09:53] but 2g would be faster [09:54] i ran 640m for a long time [09:59] still running backwards and forwards, but I have a command line... [10:00] grub>_ [10:00] does that help? [10:00] no thats an ugly one [10:01] we need to get it to boot from cd [10:01] put a windows cd in and see if that boots [10:01] let me try again but have repeated a few times already [10:01] ok [10:02] if not look in bios, i had one pc you had to tell it in 2 places to boot from cd [10:03] is that drive bootable? [10:03] [11:42] Now it shows an ext 4 linu bootable partition [10:04] im just gonna call telkom and complain about speed [10:05] yeah, mtn just rolled over and died here, now back on voda [10:06] ai! [10:07] Hi Kilos ! [10:07] Hi every one! [10:07] hi pavlushka [10:07] hello bushtech ! [10:08] calling [10:08] actually I'll be back, just peeking! [10:08] Kilos, I tried to boot from Ubuntu 10.04 and from Win xp cd's, it keeps opening grub screen that gives ubuntu linux options [10:09] and not booting from cd [10:10] Wonder if cd writer is not working? [10:12] ai [10:12] disconnect thre drive [10:12] power or ide cable [10:12] then try booting from cd [10:13] ok [10:14] if that bios has the options maybe we can get it to boot from a usb stick and install [10:14] thats if cd faulty [10:16] Im going to install my old sticky dvd writer [10:16] its showing lights and clicking but not picking up [10:26] ok [10:26] hope the cpu fast enough to use a dvd [10:43] I tried the cd but no good, uh oh now my system has hiccups, going to switch off, see a bit later [10:52] ok [10:52] sjoe [10:52] old pcs can give you gray hair [10:53] hi Kilos my system started hiccupping, I think I may have disturbed the hd power connection when I removed the dvd drive [10:53] yes old women also [10:53] lol [10:54] well I dont understand, it did boot on kubuntu yesterday [10:54] weird [10:55] try pulling power out and removing the battery till tonight [10:55] then set bios from scratch [10:55] it was not operating correctly, the screen resolution was too big and the controls difficult to reach [10:55] remove bios battery? [10:56] yes [10:56] ok [10:56] then it goes back to default [10:56] ok will let you know [10:56] ok [11:47] hi magespawn [11:47] you slipped in quietly [11:47] and superfly [11:48] it wasn't me!! [11:48] lol [11:48] I'm innocent! [11:49] jury still out [11:49] bushtech_ you busy? [11:49] somewhat but what's up [11:50] i just wanted to see if i can get dcc working but its not serious [11:50] whats dcc? [11:51] when 2 pcs connect directly i think [11:51] supposed to be very secure [11:51] its built in to most clients tody i think [11:51] never tried it, use a router for that sort of thing [11:51] today [11:52] let me see where i can find more info [11:53] or is this connecting over internet? [11:53] i only find it in preferences [11:54] over the net but direct pc to pc [11:54] teamviewer? [11:54] lemme try [11:54] no its here but privater than private [11:55] ithink teamviewer pretty secure [11:55] no their server has the info [11:56] dcc it irc direct [11:56] gotta run it with commands i think [11:57] sounds loke you busy with offshore accounts [11:57] lol no man but its safe to send email addies and stuff when peeps are very security conscious [11:58] like otr in pidgin encrypts the 2 pcs to each other [11:58] but through a otr server , dcc is supposed to be pc to pc [11:59] -*- bushtech not that paranoid [11:59] ya nor me that bad but some are [12:03] you can also dcc packages [12:03] ive never got that working yet [12:04] http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/dccspec.html [12:04] i dont understand most of that [12:06] maybe i go get some UVs while the sun still has some guts [12:06] Maaz watch them [12:06] oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon! [12:06] Maaz ty [12:06] You are welcome Kilos [12:07] Kilos: too complicated for me [12:19] ons toppies sukkel met die nuwe goed [12:24] ja sug! [13:13] hi pavlushka [13:14] Hello Kilos ! [14:20] hi skokkk Cryterion Private_User [14:20] Kilos, is that a script? [14:20] what? [14:20] the welcome messages? [14:20] lol no man its me [14:21] so friendly :o [14:21] otherwise it would answer instantly [14:21] it sort of does lol [14:21] i am supposed to be the greeter bot here [14:22] well you're doing a good job :) [14:22] other wise superfly and inetpro fight with me [14:22] and suspend my privileges [14:22] Kilos: it took you 6 minutes to greet! That is unacceptable! :-P [14:23] like no free cyber coffee [14:23] see skokkk [14:23] took hime over an hour to greet me [14:23] him* [14:23] Hi everyone [14:23] sorry superfly i been busy finding a swahili trnslator [14:23] google [14:23] gogle what [14:24] google too [14:24] google translate [14:24] nono man [14:24] a real one [14:24] lol good luck? [14:24] Maaz: no coffee for Kilos! [14:24] superfly: Huh? [14:24] hmm, can't help sorry [14:24] i have one [14:25] Kilos: You'd better say thanks to Maaz, he ignored my request to take your coffee privileges away :-P [14:25] Maaz ty [14:25] You are welcome Kilos [14:25] Maaz botsnack [14:25] YAY someone cares about me too! [14:25] Maaz coffee please [14:25] Kilos: There isn't a pot on [14:26] lol [14:26] Maaz coffee on [14:26] * Maaz washes some mugs [14:26] he's only cleaning them now? [14:26] yeah [14:27] a translator is wanted for this game [14:27] http://raisingphoenicia.com [14:27] and can be translated to other languages if anyone is interested [14:30] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [14:30] Maaz danke [14:30] Bitteschön [14:30] Private_User you just become a lurker now [14:31] or you just ashamed for being on windows [14:32] we allow windows users if they put a please before and after every post [14:32] * Cryterion agrees [14:32] lol [14:33] * mazal mompel iets [14:33] haha uitgevang ne [14:33] Oom forgot the sir part [14:33] should be please mopmpel iets please [14:33] Every sentence starts and ends with sir [14:33] thats army [14:34] Hoe gaanit oom ? [14:34] we are layed back cool kids [14:34] Hi Cryterion [14:34] goed dankie en self deun [14:34] seun [14:34] Goed goed , het heerlike dag gehad [14:34] mooi wat het jy aangevang [14:35] Opgestaan met koek en koffie , toe gebraai en toe is ek gevat vir roomys [14:35] sjoe nou is ek jaloers [14:35] Good times with good friends soos hulle seg [14:35] yip [14:35] Behalwe vir oom wat my nie wou groet vanmore nie :( [14:36] skuus man ek was kwaai besig [14:36] hehehehe [14:36] ek dink [14:36] Met hdd saam LangJan [14:36] party keer is ek net blind [14:36] o ja [14:37] shame hy sukkel met n tannie se pc [14:37] heya mazal [14:38] maar hy bring nog toppies na ubuntu [14:38] The more the merrier [14:38] Shees did I spell that right ? [14:38] ja [14:39] think so [14:39] looks funny though hey [14:39] Maaz spell merrier [14:39] Kilos: Yes, you *can* spell [14:39] My spellchecker crazy , almost 80% of my stuff is underlined. Dunno why [14:39] Even stuff I know is spelled right [14:39] i turned mine off [14:39] http://www.dictionary.com/browse/merrier [15:38] Hi allie jongmanne [15:38] en Kilos [15:39] hi Langjan [15:39] hoe lyk dit nou [15:39] Goed dankie en by jou? [15:40] ook goed dankie [15:40] hey jy die ding weer aan die gang? [15:40] Mooi so. Die bios op die ou masjiene is seker soos ou ooms - vergeet gou? [15:40] lol [15:40] Of hoe lank moet ek hom ontkoppel? [15:40] baie is net 5 of 10 minute [15:41] so jy dink dis tyd om weer te probeer [15:41] ek het n paar gehad wat ek moes heel nag los [15:41] ja [15:41] ok kom ons kyk weer more [15:41] dalk het hierdie een nie alzies nie [15:41] kry net die ding om te boot van cd [15:42] neema n nou [15:42] jys 'n regte slawedrywer [15:42] lol [15:42] het dit vergeet of nie [15:42] master and slave [15:43] ek weet nie, moet eers al die drade inprop, hoop ek onthou waar... [15:43] lol [15:44] jy kan even probeer boot van 12.04 sonder dat die hardeskyf gekoppel is [15:44] ons moet net sien of die cd werk of nie [15:44] of jy kan soek vir usb boot goed [15:44] ja op instruksie van die slawedrywer [15:45] nee man [15:45] lyk nie of daai usb werk nie [15:45] jy my vriend nie my slaaf nie [15:45] watter usb [15:45] het jy bios gestel om van usb te boot [15:45] op die ou masjien, maar daar is nog agter [15:46] daar is nie, was nie so 'n opsie nie [15:46] ja gebruik agter [15:46] ai! [15:46] nou wil windows eers update, eish! [15:46] dan moet ons n cd ding kry wat reg werk [15:47] sit altyd alle windows updates af [15:47] nou reen dit op Warmbad - lekker! [15:47] waar kom windows nou vandaan [15:47] Ja ek dink ek moet dit doen [15:47] sjoe [15:48] Juanita se rekenaar dual boot, ek hardloop my Genealogieprogram op hom en op my VBox wat nog nie weer werk nie [15:48] sjoe [15:48] op watter masjien werk ons nou [15:48] Op myne [15:48] my desktop [15:49] ssd [15:49] ok [15:49] en die tanie sn? [15:49] tannie [15:49] ek gebruik haar skerm en Internet kabel vir die ou meneer [15:50] hiers nie plek vir nog 'n skerm nie [15:50] as haar masjien nie die cd ding wil doen nie instaleer 12.04 op jou pc [15:50] Sy sal jou moer as jy haar tannie noem... [15:51] die ene met die ossewa? [15:51] nee man, Juanita [15:51] is sy nie n tannie nie? [15:51] ek dog jy meen haar [15:51] wil jy my epos adres leen [15:51] hoekom? [15:52] wel [15:52] die domdonner deel kan pas as jy so deurmekaar dink [15:52] Dis jy wat my deurmekruis maak, slawedrywer [15:52] inetpro leen dit nou en dan ook === mazal is now known as mazal-eet [15:53] ekke? [15:53] ek is onskuldig [15:56] Ja ja, moet ek eers sonder die hardeskyf probeer? [15:56] ja probeer [15:56] as dit werk dan weet ons die cdrom werk darem [15:57] process of elimination [16:03] ok would not show bios before I connected the hard drive [16:03] try again and hit del early [16:03] looking at boot options, have set cd rom no 1 but what are LS120 and SCS1? [16:03] oh [16:04] there aslo floppy [16:04] what does the harddrive show as [16:04] and hdd 0,1 2 and 3 [16:05] 0 [16:05] hdd second boot [16:05] no details shown, means it is not picking up? [16:05] hdd 0? [16:05] ja [16:06] 0 is the first one [16:06] and third boot? [16:06] somewhere in bios you can search drives [16:06] lets have a look [16:06] third you can make cdrom too [16:07] where it shows hdd click it and should show something [16:07] otherwise mbr isnt there [16:08] if it can just boot from cd we are smiling [16:08] it still picks up Linux ubuntu [16:08] then we zero the hdd and it will act like a new one then bios will write new mbr [16:09] oh you see it [16:10] It gives ide primary master=none, primary slave is hdd [16:11] you using second connector on cable? [16:11] yes [16:11] first one is the master position [16:11] oh [16:11] i mean [16:11] lees jy nie seun? [16:11] one goes into motherboard [16:12] 2 must be in drive [16:12] 3 goes to cd [16:12] now I'm lost [16:12] if you see drive as slave then you need to move the strap at the back [16:12] look at the cable [16:12] has it got 3 plugs [16:13] one goes into motherboard [16:13] I know about the jumper, they messed with it when we tried to boot where they built the thing [16:13] how many ide cables are there [16:13] jumper must be fr master [16:14] one the drive should be a sticker or painted on which position does what [16:17] broad cable goes to cd, one to hdd and one to MB [16:18] not all one cable? [16:18] small 4-point connectors to same [16:18] looks like one cable [16:18] ok [16:18] so the end of that cable must go to cd [16:19] yes [16:19] one end to cd, one to MB, middle one to hdd [16:19] then it must be jumper on drive making hdd the slave [16:19] yes thats right [16:20] so I must put jumper in fr slot? [16:20] maybe whoever did it made the cd the master [16:20] fr? [16:20] thats what you said [16:20] oh my [16:20] fr master [16:21] let me take it out so I can see the markings [16:21] that was supposed to be for master [16:21] not fr [16:21] youll most likely need to check the cd as well. that must be slave [16:22] could work other way around too i spose [16:23] but i got into the habit of making my drive the master [16:23] now you must suffer for my habits [16:24] hdd jumper positions - dont see marks [16:24] ai! [16:25] how many positions where the jumper goes in [16:25] four === mazal-eet is now known as mazal-game [16:25] one on left is master i think [16:25] its in the one closest to the 4-pin plug [16:25] let me look for a drive [16:25] left looking from top or bottom? [16:26] looking at the connectors with top of drive to the top of course [16:27] cd is on SL [16:27] hdd jumper is on far right [16:28] whaddaya mean "of course" - nothing is for granted with you geeks [16:28] nothing anywhere in the writing on top thats shows the jumper use [16:29] let me get magnifier [16:31] master on slave of is opposite end to where it is now [16:32] huh [16:32] other position is "cable select" [16:32] is the second position from left [16:32] use the master pins [16:33] so maste on is left side, cable select is second from left and jumper is on the right [16:33] ok [16:33] you found the diagram [16:34] didnt i say master on the left [16:34] only drives i have here are in desktop [16:34] forgot i gave the rest to ian [16:34] and the cd? [16:35] but if you see what must go where thats good [16:35] ok they most liely have cd as master [16:35] CS, SL or MA [16:35] make cd slave [16:35] sl [16:35] ok thats where it is [16:36] sjoe [16:36] so both were slave [16:36] no wonder it didnt work [16:36] ok try again? [16:37] maybe now it will boot from cd [16:37] i had one pc i actually had to use a second cable for the cd [16:37] yip go for it [16:37] i just dunno why it goes to grub if you formatted it [16:43] beautiful ubuntu cd running [16:43] w0000t [16:44] Now A for Away! [16:44] You genius slave-driver you... [16:44] it's singing a song of joy [16:44] see im not just a pretty face [16:44] haha [16:44] nooooo [16:44] pretty inside and out [16:45] nono im ugly now [16:45] even debs says almost handsome [16:45] haha [16:45] so cheeky [16:45] b..s..t [16:45] with another l [16:45] im lost [16:46] where you learn that slang [16:46] bulls..t [16:46] oh [16:46] haha [16:46] your nbot ugly [16:46] not [16:46] i am actually [16:46] have a boozers nose from years of meds [16:47] but i have a cute smile [16:47] only in your mind's eye, not in mine or in your Maker's [16:48] ty [16:48] keep us informed of progress [16:49] im happy something is worki ng at last [16:49] once I have 12.04 lts, can I not upgrade to 14.04 via the Internet? [16:49] will do thks [16:49] better to use 14.04 from starters then [16:49] 12.04 was much lighter though [16:50] well it cannot take dvd [16:50] let go with 12.04, she only uses it for very basic stuff [16:50] that could also be because of that jumper [16:50] then 12.04 should be fine [17:31] wen jy Langjan [17:36] jy moet wen voor dit my slaap tyd is toppie [17:39] Kilos, ubi partman chashed with exit code 10. Have Googled prob and am continuing [17:39] try it from cd [17:40] like' [17:40] try what? [17:40] boot from cd then try not install [17:40] then mount the drive and install mbr [17:41] im sure the mbr is unhappy thats why you battling with partitions [17:41] ok thks, just doing disk check, will do then. you not watching lions and capies? [17:42] just eaten [17:43] other way is to zero the drive and reboot and hope the motherboard writes new mbr [17:44] try whatever you are trying and tomorrow if nothing worked we can zero it [17:48] ok will do thks [17:48] I am back Kilos ! and every one! [17:48] good luck though oom [17:48] hi pavlushka [17:48] Heya Kilos ! [17:49] from the live cd install mbr then do=the install [17:49] anyone free? [17:52] can anyone help me with porting cwm rom on android?????? [17:58] Kilos, how do I go about mbr? [17:58] you on live cd? [17:58] yes [17:59] then you have to mount drive [17:59] then when mounted install mbr [17:59] mount drive? [17:59] maybe someone can help with the mounting [18:00] was a command like sudo mount /dev/sda1 --mnt or something [18:00] then from same terminal apt-get install mbr --reinstall maybe [18:01] kulelu88 wb [18:01] yo Kilos [18:01] help oom jan mount and install from live cd please [18:01] does anybody use broadband/3G for their internet access? [18:01] ive forgotten the commands [18:01] i use 3g ya [18:02] mount and install? [18:02] he has a drive thats battling to install to [18:02] i think mbr sick [18:02] Oom Jan please share some more info [18:02] so i suggested he mount it and install or reinstall mbr [18:03] hi kulelu88 [18:03] why you want to know about 3g [18:03] hoegaanit my oom [18:03] goed dankie en met jou? [18:04] ubi partman chashed with exit code 10. [18:06] Lekker oom [18:06] I cannot connect to a proxy through broadband [18:06] Mooi so [18:06] Trying to see if anybody else has these issues [18:07] i use the no proxy option all over [18:07] Let's see if we can debug oom Jans issues. What error are you getting oom? [18:07] I can connect to the proxy, but then internet doesn't work [18:07] good evening [18:07] hi magespawn [18:07] On install getting ubi partman crash with exit code 10 [18:08] now running on live cd try ubuntu [18:08] that's a verbose error. Let me search for that [18:16] Running on live cd I'm getting warning here is only a few MB disk space left...? [18:17] open gparted and see [18:17] It says 1,4 Gb total, but the hdd is 160 GB [18:17] delete all partitions [18:18] if gparted doesnt work try disks and delete all partitions then create one full size partition [18:19] Kilos: does Langjan uses windows side by side? [18:19] nope [18:20] and his partitions are of what type? [18:20] looks like possibly an old partition [18:20] he has been battling to try install 12.04 [18:20] Kilos: his data? [18:21] Langjan are you brave [18:21] no data [18:21] new install [18:21] no data to lose [18:21] /dev/sda1 ext 4 148Gb [18:21] /dev/sda2 extended 1022mib [18:22] good, but you should make some other ext4 partitions in case of system crash. [18:22] /dev/sda5 linux swap 1022mib [18:22] Ha HA ha [18:22] those are what gparted shows [18:23] wat is snaaks/ [18:23] delete them all [18:23] pavlushka, [18:23] Langjan: delete partition table and create new partitions, a bit more organized way. [18:23] Langjan: go with Kilos ! [18:23] Langjan qhe doesnt understand afrikaans [18:23] he is in bangladesh [18:24] ok big one is deleted, others do not react [18:25] now shows 148 GBunallocated [18:25] ok close gparted [18:25] then run disk utility [18:25] operation pending [18:25] ai! [18:26] Langjan: your primary partition is 148 GB, and extended is 1022 mib [18:26] its corrupt [18:26] whats it doing? [18:26] cant you close gparted [18:27] Kilos: what size you recommend him for his primary partition? [18:27] I can but it says operation pending... [18:27] i use 40g /root [18:27] 4g swap [18:27] ten large /home [18:27] ok I had to apply...dommie [18:27] Kilos: I would go with you. [18:28] then some at the end for storage and backup [18:28] ok Langjan open disks [18:28] hopefully that version shows the formay to mbr option [18:29] nothing shown under disks [18:29] disk utility [18:30] ok what to do? [18:30] is it open [18:30] yes [18:30] and shows the drive [18:30] ok [18:30] yes [18:31] look at the format options [18:31] one should show format to mbr [18:31] maybe you need to delete all partitions it still sees [18:31] Kilos: I think so. [18:31] ok shows mbr [18:32] don't make too many partitions [18:32] Just do 1 main and 1 swap, unless you don't own an HDD [18:32] *external HDD [18:32] des it show format to mbr [18:32] then maybe add a backup partition [18:32] format to mbr? [18:32] the previous problem was that it was trying to install ubuntu on the swap memory [18:32] this is for an ol ladt kulelu88 [18:33] right, she only uses the computer to type a few letters [18:33] yes one of the format options shows mbt with a little arrow that shows more options [18:33] choose the mbr [18:33] right [18:34] then format [18:34] ping inetpro ! How are you? [18:34] Maaz seen inetpro [18:34] Kilos: inetpro was last seen 14 hours, 12 minutes and 48 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-15 21:21:42 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-14 06:48:40 PDT [18:34] operation failed [18:34] he maybe away for the weekend [18:34] uh oh [18:35] error creating partition table [18:35] Kilos: cp [18:35] ok les zero the thing [18:35] let me find the command [18:36] Kilos: have you tried low level format tool? [18:36] long ago [18:36] Its the last mile. [18:36] but can give you back your HDD. [18:37] so can zeroing it [18:37] makes the drive like a new one never installed before [18:37] and with a good mbr [18:38] im just trying to find the command Langjan [18:38] thks sound right [18:41] try formatting the HDD from the bootloader [18:41] I mean BIOS sorry [18:41] low-level stuff is only fun with micro-electronics [18:43] Langjan have coffee so long i need to check on desktop drives for where i saved it [18:44] sigh [18:45] thks Kilos some excellent rugby going on === mazal-game is now known as mazal [18:45] are the bulls playing? [18:45] bulls beat reds [18:46] rugby looks so weird when you watch it live [18:46] lions and stormers, 23 / 22 to lions [18:47] 14 mins remain [18:47] ok Langjan you ready [18:48] yes [18:48] in terminal [18:48] thks [18:48] sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 [18:48] swairt [18:48] wait [18:48] sda [18:49] Langjan: Kilos meant "of=/dev/sda" [18:49] sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 [18:49] then reboot and install [18:49] close disk utility? [18:49] and choose use whole disk [18:49] clse everything first [18:50] Langjan: yes [18:50] the command will make it like there has never been anything on the drive [18:52] then hopefully motherboard will write a good mbr [18:53] you will need to go chat from your pc [18:53] I am on my pc [18:54] once 12.04 is installed we will use gparted to resize some space for a backup area [18:54] oh [18:54] i thought you were chatting from the live cd [18:54] you can do that as well [18:55] ubutntu rocks [18:55] ubuntu [18:55] whew starting to struggle here [18:56] nothing much hapened Kilos , it just ejected cd then restrted and asked for media [18:56] put cd in and install [18:56] after that command I thought it will take time [18:57] choose use whole drive hey [18:57] Yes will do [18:57] no its instant [18:57] oh ok [18:57] wow [18:57] very powerful dangerous command [18:57] wiped my 1TB drive instantly [18:57] and I was sitting right here, why not warn me? [18:57] by accident [18:57] lol [18:58] as long as motherboard and bios are good that is now a good drive [18:59] with nothing on it [18:59] ok installing on 160Gb [18:59] yay [18:59] there new mbr [19:00] lions 29 stormers 22 [19:00] that matches that pc [19:06] wow lions win [19:06] kulelu88 dont you watch rugby normally [19:07] yes well played [19:07] failed again [19:07] oh my [19:07] same thing? [19:07] looks like yes [19:09] something not happy with that drive [19:09] lets run badblocks and see [19:09] ok [19:09] sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result [19:10] will take a while [19:11] takes forever to open terminal [19:11] ai! [19:12] not showing... [19:12] aha [19:12] has it finished running? [19:12] it gives a report after everything [19:12] runs long time [19:14] have you got another drive you can try Langjan [19:15] unfortunately not, its not showing anything - should it? [19:15] yes when it goes back to prompt [19:15] it says no bad blocks or som many bad blocks [19:16] A small terminal opened at the top and prompted "type your command" then disappeared [19:16] now nothing shows [19:17] your terminal gone too? [19:17] nothing running, just desktop [19:17] yes terminal gone [19:17] oh my [19:17] what have you broken now [19:17] hehe [19:18] can you open another terminal [19:18] ctrl/alt/T shows nothing [19:19] oh my [19:19] here is the story for bad blocks whe you have a drive getting old [19:19] https://bin.snyman.info/mmmzjsut [19:19] similar to what chkdsk does on win [19:20] just better [19:20] Langjan we try once more [19:20] run the zero cammand again [19:21] then reboot and install [19:21] zero command? [19:21] if it still doent work we look for another drive [19:21] wait i get it for you [19:22] is there another way to open terminal? [19:22] sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 [19:22] in dash yes [19:22] type terminal i dash [19:23] ok here we go [19:23] i can give you an 80g drive for her [19:24] what a pity that drive is unhappy [19:24] it's weird that lions have so many good players but that old boks guy took his oupas to the rugby world cup [19:25] lol [19:25] agreed, weirdos [19:25] money... [19:25] this whole supers and curry cup story is a mess up [19:25] ok so reboot and install? [19:26] you cant have the best players plaing in to series [19:26] yessit Langjan [19:26] Langjan: yes please, lol [19:26] yessir and lets hope it goes further [19:26] wow sorry for all the typos [19:27] * pavlushka finger's crossed [19:27] they say rugby and cricket is an old boys club, where the previous players kids and friends kids get chosen first [19:27] no stop or reboot option in menu, only suspend...weird [19:27] type in terminal [19:27] sudo reboot [19:27] thks [19:28] Hi magespawn ! [19:28] when did magespawn slip in/ [19:29] lol [19:29] thanks for fingers crossed pavlushka [19:31] i even have my legs crossed here [19:31] sad when a drive gives up [19:31] probably cause its cold Kilos [19:31] lol [19:31] legs crossed? go quick Kilos [19:32] yeah to keep my feet warm [19:32] Kilos: lol @ that [19:32] lmga vir die ou manne [19:32] haha [19:32] oom Kilos [19:32] poor bushtech even gave up with his connection [19:33] feet will get warm but then cold... [19:33] nono when warm ill go to bed [19:34] well get under the duvet [19:34] im on the bed already [19:34] is it installing langjan [19:34] Kilos: keeping legs crossed while sitting for a long time is risky. [19:35] so far so good [19:35] if it doesnt work we partition so that first 20g isnt used [19:35] then cross fingers again [19:35] but when its cold here, even I forget that. [19:35] lol [19:35] yes, unrecoverable error [19:36] eish [19:36] we can skip first 80 GB [19:36] she will not use much [19:36] ok open gparted [19:36] and make partitions [19:36] first 40 dont use [19:37] but what about MBR? [19:37] mbr is before that' [19:37] mbr is in os pc wouldnt see the drib=ve [19:37] drive [19:38] sos/or [19:38] ai! [19:38] s/os/or [19:39] It says there are 2 active partitions, cannot create new partition [19:39] delete them [19:40] so you have empty drive [19:41] does not give delete option, [19:41] then create one of 40g but dont add a mount point [19:41] delete shows but inactive [19:41] try [19:41] sudo umount /dev/sda1 [19:41] or sda [19:42] then see if you can delete them [19:42] umount? [19:42] yes [19:42] not unmount? [19:42] thats the linux unmount command [19:42] umount [19:42] ok sorry [19:43] np [19:43] hehe [19:44] you not making children anymore oom Kilos , so not so risky :D [19:44] hahahaha [19:44] warm feet better ya [19:45] you at home everyday Kilos ? [19:45] yes [19:45] ok only the big one deleted [19:45] ok Langjan [19:45] you don't get bored? [19:46] does it show whole drive as unpartitioned [19:46] no i look after sheep and wash dishes [19:46] and sometimes cook [19:46] and do fencing [19:46] no, 148 gb unallocated and the two small partitions still there [19:46] and irc [19:46] wow [19:46] extended and swap [19:46] i wonder what is in them [19:46] oh [19:47] ok create 40g [19:48] no formatting or mount point [19:48] and apply after each step [19:48] create partition table? [19:49] tick top where it say partition [19:49] the add i think [19:49] tell me when done [19:49] nothing active there except "information" [19:50] holy moly [19:50] close gparted\ [19:50] oh sorry, and new [19:50] ya new [19:51] whew i forgot new [19:51] new 40g with no mount point and format not ticked [19:52] ok how I do that? Free space before? [19:52] just change the size [19:53] forget the free space stuff and leave as is [19:53] the partitions are being created by themselves, especially if the system is low on RAM, so swap will get made automatically [19:53] IIRC [19:53] ok I see, so I have moved the left border to leave 40GB? [19:53] Langjan: ubuntu 12.04 LTS is no longer supported. You should use 14.04 [19:53] yes on a clean install without manual partitioning it makes its own swap [19:54] tick freespace [19:54] the new again [19:54] 12.04 has 1 years still [19:54] expires 2017 [19:55] lts are 5 years [19:55] must I now format new partition to? [19:55] this new one we make now you tick format [19:56] ext 4? [19:56] 36 gig ext4 [19:56] mountpoint / [19:58] mountpoint? [19:58] root [19:58] root? [19:58] near bottom is mountpoint [19:59] tish thearrow on the right of the block and choose the / sign [19:59] thats your root folder [19:59] root partition [20:00] you see it? [20:00] bottom of what? there no arrow [20:00] no [20:00] nee man [20:00] in gparted? [20:00] did you tick new [20:00] yes [20:00] yes [20:00] that opens a window [20:01] where you choose size [20:01] theres ane dev/sda1 partition [20:01] tick once on free space [20:01] a new [20:01] 'then choose new or add [20:01] theres no free space [20:01] what [20:01] only unallocated and new partition [20:02] you made a 36 gig partiton [20:02] ytes [20:02] yes [20:02] unallocated then how big [20:02] about 100 gb [20:02] right tick it and then new [20:03] tell me what you see [20:03] should be same as when you made first new one [20:03] sorry, the dev sda is 100 gb the unallocated is 55 [20:04] thought you wanted to leave the first part open [20:04] 36g unused [20:04] the rest we use [20:04] yes thats about it [20:05] if you see a thing that says beginning of drive for the 35g then tick it [20:05] so I have formatted 100 gb to dev sda [20:05] ok so 36 from 140 is 104 [20:05] nothing formatted yet [20:06] these will all be /sda1 and 5 and 7 etc [20:06] sa is the whole drive [20:06] I have formatted 100gb to dev/sda1 [20:06] sda [20:06] something wrong [20:06] delete everything again [20:07] ok [20:07] then listen carefully and we do one step at a time [20:08] after you apply you should have 140g unallocated [20:08] keep me informed please [20:09] ok unallocated is 148 gb [20:09] yay [20:09] tick once on it [20:09] highlight it i think its called [20:10] then choose partition at the top [20:10] and in that new [20:10] tell when ready [20:11] somethings awry, mouse not working [20:11] wow [20:11] hehe [20:12] murphy is sitting on your shoulder [20:12] kom ons gaan slaap probeer more weer [20:12] reboot to try u buntu gain [20:12] lets just see if we can get 2 partitions [20:12] i go wee while you reboot [20:12] and open gparted [20:15] if you would rather try again tomorrow oom jan thats fine with me too [20:15] i think that drive is messed [20:15] I dont want to keep you from bed... [20:16] its not urgent to do now [20:16] forget about me man [20:16] if you arent tired we can go on [20:16] how can I forget my slave/driver? [20:16] hahaha [20:17] ok opening ubuntu try phase [20:18] gparted open shows 55 gb unallocated and 93gb dev/sda1 [20:19] must I delete again? [20:19] delete all [20:20] then we have 148g unallocated [20:20] nothing is reacting to clicks... [20:21] sda1 not highlighting? [20:21] system frozen [20:21] no [20:21] oh mhy [20:21] screen flashes black and mouse cursor comes and goes [20:22] brush murphy off you shoulder [20:22] or run outside and brush him off [20:22] then come turn off pc and we try tomorrow [20:23] someting very sick there [20:23] lets go sleep, I got up at 03:45 [20:23] yes agreed [20:23] slaap lekker [20:23] maybe pull battery and power plug for the night [20:23] ok will do [20:23] lekker slaap julle ook [20:23] dankie [20:23] night my friend [20:23] anytime [20:24] i think we need anothedr drive [20:24] see you tomorrow [20:24] goeienag slawedrywer, the guys seem to be able to get a drive from Pretoria [20:24] so perhaps rthats the way to go [20:24] the guys? [20:24] who built the computer [20:25] ok [20:25] new or secon=d hand [20:25] baie dankie [20:25] secondhand [20:26] ok but we can try bypass bad area on this one as well [20:26] be interesting [20:26] ok lets see tomorrow [20:26] see you tomorrow [20:26] tell juanita i didnt call her tannie [20:26] lekker slaap [20:26] thkas good and reliable friend [20:26] will do [20:26] night all, sleep tight [20:27] night kulelu88 [20:52] goodnight acery one!