[00:01] <Blake> Oh thanks so much! :)
[00:08] <lmw> !experimental
[00:09] <lmw> !sid
[00:09] <lmw> !help
[00:09] <lmw> !help help
[00:10] <lmw> Does Debian have a permanent sid channel?
[00:10] <lmw> *Ubuntu
[00:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 lmw but not sid
[00:12] <lmw> Thank you
[00:41] <serianox> #join #archlinux
[00:49] <Guest34615> anyone else run into an error when starting Corebird on Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:50] <Guest34615> the error is the following: GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.baedert.corebird' does not contain a key named 'accel-show-settings'
[00:50] <teward> Guest34615: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 support
[00:50] <Guest34615> thanks teward... question though
[00:51] <Hathadar> I installed g++ v5 however g++ -v shows gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.1)
[00:51] <Hathadar> How do I install and use the latest g++/gcc on ubuntu?
[00:51] <Guest34615> have any idea how to troubleshoot this type of problem dealing with dconf? os is there any documentation on it
[00:53] <jiffe> anyone know how I might be able to get gpu load with nvidia cards?
[00:53] <jiffe> I was able to do it with my amd cards using amdconfig
[00:54] <zykotick9> Hathadar: just sayin' but changing gcc version is a _huge_ deal.  are you sure?  good luck, you'll need it.
[00:54] <Bashing-om> jiffe: ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' ?? is what you are referring to ?
[00:57] <Bashing-om> jiffe: Be aware the use of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is depreciated .
[01:05] <Mitchell92> Hello... I'm a computer networking major, I bought another laptop to toy around with and then bring to class in the fall for note taking next semester. I really love it and it runs amazing on XUbuntu... At the same time, I really wanted to try out gnome 3 again. Its a dual core i5 (6th gen) with 4GB of RAM and Intel HD 530 graphics. Would it be suggested that I reinstall everything and use the gnome variant of Ubuntu to do this, or could I
[01:05] <Mitchell92> just install Gnome and remove XFCE?
[01:06] <munch_28> Anyone know intimate details of Netflix Desktop app? I'm trying to kill it, but the Ubuntu launcher is still showing it to be in use
[01:07] <munch_28> right clicking it, and clicking on quit doesn't stop it from being in use
[01:08] <Mitchell92> Netflix is now supported on linux?
[01:09] <munch_28_> Can anyone help with Top and killing Netflix Desktop?
[01:09] <sdk> Mitchell92: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Installation
[01:09] <kurros> munch_28_: if i recall correctly it was plugin-container
[01:10] <Mitchell92> sdk, I'm aware of ubuntu gnome... I already have XUbuntu installed. Do I need to reinstall and install Ubuntu Gnome to run Gnome 3, or is there another way, if so, would it work as needed?
[01:10] <kurros> Mitchell92: its a really old app that uses silverlight via wine
[01:10] <Mitchell92> Ahh
[01:11] <sdk> Mitchell92: I think you can do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop"
[01:11] <munch_28_> kurros: I did kill that PID, It's still showing lit on my launcher....
[01:11] <kurros> Mitchell92: do what sdk says and when you log out there will be a new selector above your username on the login screen to choose the desktop environment
[01:11] <jiffe> Bashing-om: I don't think nvidia-xconfig is an analog to amdconfig
[01:12] <Mitchell92> okay, kurros ... Thanks
[01:12] <kurros> munch_28_: dang. sorry its been a long time since i had to use that app
[01:13] <zykotick9> jiffe: i have NO idea what amdconfig does... but nvidia-xconig just creates a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file...
[01:13] <jiffe> I could use amdconfig to poll for gpu clock info, gpu load, gpu temperatures etc
[01:13] <jiffe> I was hoping to find something similar for nvidia
[01:13] <munch_28_> kurros: you don't use netflix then? I'm hoping that there is a better app then Netflix Desktop
[01:13] <munch_28_> Have a lot of issues with it
[01:14] <zykotick9> jiffe: there is a gui, nvidia-settings i believe...
[01:14] <jiffe> nothing command line?  I don't have a monitor on this machine atm the moment
[01:14] <kurros> jiffe: nvidia-smi will show what you want I think
[01:15] <zykotick9> jiffe: what's the point of nvidia drivers if you don't have a monitor attached?...
[01:15] <Bashing-om> munch_28_: There is google-chrome that runns Netflix out of the box .
[01:15] <jiffe> zykotick9: because gpus have a lot of cores, this machine will be used for training neural networks
[01:16] <Ben64> jiffe: nvidia-smi ?
[01:24] <jiffe> yup /usr/lib/nvidia-352/bin/nvidia-smi looks like it gives me all that info
[01:24] <jiffe> thanks
[02:16] <goddard> anyone familar with serial communications and needing root/sudo?
[02:27] <sendq> anyone most-likely
[02:27] <dotcom> With SEO?
[02:27] <sendq> Friday night it a bad time for IRC
[02:49] <torrey> 1
[02:51] <bobby_> where i can join ubuntu community ?
[02:57] <bobby_> where i can join ubuntu community ?
[02:58] <yokawa> ?
[02:59] <Bashing-om> bobby_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/ ???
[03:00] <yokawa> hi?
[03:00] <yokawa> h?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> yokawa: ubuntu support here .
[03:01] <yokawa> ik
[03:01] <yokawa> bro
[03:01] <cfhowlett> yokawa, this not a chit chat channel.  ask your ubuntu support question
[03:02] <yokawa> i know bro
[03:02] <yokawa> where are you from bro
[03:02] <yokawa> i got it
[03:02] <cfhowlett> UBUNTU questions?
[03:02] <yokawa> but we can chill while someone ask something about ubutun?
[03:02] <yokawa> ubuntu
[03:02] <cfhowlett> no
[03:03] <yokawa> oh ok
[03:03] <yokawa> r you in japan?
[03:03] <yokawa> but who are you ?
[03:03] <yokawa> i mean are you a moderator here?
[03:03] <cfhowlett> !topic
[03:04] <yokawa> !topic
[03:04] <yokawa> only registered users can use these commands?
[03:05] <cfhowlett> you would be happier in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:05] <yokawa> this is a support channel but i asked u some questions
[03:05] <yokawa> and u didnt reply me
[03:05] <yokawa> tell me about ur ubuntu please
[03:06] <yokawa> im using ubuntu 14 lts
[03:06] <yokawa> should i upgrade to 15
[03:06] <yokawa> ?
[03:06] <cfhowlett> your machine, your choice
[03:06] <yokawa> yes ur right
[03:06] <yokawa> im all up dated
[03:07] <bobby_> I want to set  /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method with low but cant access permission to edit
[03:07] <cfhowlett> bobby_, sudo gedit should open it
[03:07] <yokawa> u must use sudo
[03:07] <yokawa> command
[03:07] <bobby_> cfhowlett : still not work
[03:08] <yokawa> u must be doing something wrong then
[03:08] <bobby_> Could not create a backup file while saving “/sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method” , i click "save anyway" but not want
[03:10] <bobby_> this instructions http://askubuntu.com/questions/115142/how-to-set-power-profile-at-boot not working to me
[03:10] <yokawa> you should explain us more
[03:11] <yokawa> we are not soothsayers
[03:11] <cfhowlett> bobby_, rename the existing file so it won't request the backup then edit/create a new file
[03:11] <yokawa> u must be doing something wrong
[03:11] <yokawa> tell us what u are doing step by step
[03:16] <bobby_> now i follow http://www.techytalk.info/ubuntu-open-source-ati-radeon-driver-power-usage-tweaks/ . .I think my problem solved in a minute after i reboot ( last step ) .
[03:23] <jayesh> hello
[03:23] <jayesh> guys
[03:23] <jayesh> hii
[03:23] <jayesh> hello
[03:23] <cfhowlett> jayesh, enough
[03:23] <jayesh> hola
[03:23] <cfhowlett> ask your support questions
[03:24] <jayesh> i was just checking Sorry. :)
[03:24] <cfhowlett> !ask
[03:24] <Mneuro> Is there a fix for "steam is out of date" in Ubuntu 16.04?
[03:24] <jayesh> Do any ! has experience in Android proggramming?
[03:25] <cfhowlett> jayesh, the #android channel?
[03:25] <jayesh> Gee, thanks,
[03:25] <cfhowlett> Mneuro, ask #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 support
[03:31] <VinceVon> exit
[03:46] <[Saint]> Why isn't lmvetad used by default?
[03:47] <[Saint]> lmv.conf makes a specific note about it not being used by default even if the service modules are present - why is this?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> Thousands of tools are not used by default
[03:48] <dw1> last ~$a
[03:48] <[Saint]> Those thousand of tools also don't bitch about not being used during boot, though cfhowlett.
[03:50] <[Saint]> The way I see it it has no obvious downsides, some very clear benefits, and its presence silences and annoying fallback warning during boot with LVM.
[03:50] <goddard> does the ufw block serial communications?
[03:50] <nomic> yeah
[03:51] <nomic> because serial communications use ports
[03:51] <[Saint]> So I was wondering what the reasoning behind not having it available by default, in fact, not even enabling it even if the service modules are present and active.
[03:51] <[Saint]> Given that to my view it has no obvious downsides and very clear benefits.
[03:52] <Kriophoros> my issue: I did passwd -e in terminal to make my user password expire, so my friends at home could go freely onto my desktop, but I'm stuck out of it now, as the desktop doesn't seem to load after login in (it redirects me back to the "after boot" login interface. I tried changing the password through root in recovery mode but I still can't access the desktop after logging in with the new
[03:52] <Kriophoros> password, any ideas?
[03:53] <[Saint]> It doesn't help you now, obviously, but...why didn't you just make them a guest account?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> ^^^ this ^^^
[03:54] <[Saint]> also - you can fix this trivially from a liveCD|DVD|USB
[03:54] <goddard> serial uses UDP/TCP
[03:54] <goddard> ?
[03:55] <goddard> how can i unblock a port
[03:55] <goddard> doesn't seem my firewall GUI offers the correct parameters
[03:56] <Kriophoros> [Saint], I did it in a hurry and didn't expect it to "break"...
[03:57] <[Saint]> Actually - I use server installs too much these days.
[03:57] <[Saint]> ...isn;t there a guest account _by default_ on all the GUI/desktop installs?
[03:58] <[Saint]> mount some shared storage, bingo bango, guest users that can't ruin your day.
[03:59] <coffeeguy> hi i've been getting a loud alarm sound on my desktop monitors speakers, just out of the blue?
[03:59] <[Saint]> anyway - yeah, single user mode, or fixing this externally from a live install is probably your best bet here Kriophoros
[03:59] <cfhowlett> coffeeguy, turn off the alarm?
[03:59] <coffeeguy> muted them and later after i removed cinnamon it did it again
[03:59] <cbjaxx> Kriophoris, did you unlock you account after resetting the password? sudo passwd -u <account>
[04:00] <Kriophoros> there's something weird, too, the name of my session seems to have a mistake in it. it's Krios instead of Krio, so I can't change the password for "Krios" after trying "passwd Krios" in root (because it'd reply the user does not exist)
[04:00] <coffeeguy> cfhowlett good idea though i don't remember installing one hehe
[04:00] <coffeeguy> also what does D-BUS daemon not running mean?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> coffeeguy, I would suspect you enabled one somewhere.  check your clock settings?
[04:01] <Kriophoros> perhaps I don't use the command correctly, but i haven't changed the user account's name
[04:01] <Kriophoros> cbjaxx: did not à
[04:02] <coffeeguy> cfhowlett, i just checked it, it shows add event but evolution hasn't even been setup
[04:02] <[Saint]> Kriophoros: maybe when you get this sorted in the end you can look at doing some proper user management that doesn't rely on inherent trust of users whom may or may not have any idea what they're doing at any given time on an account you need to be functional.
[04:03] <BlooperBoy> I am in need of some support. I decided i want to setup email with my domain/server (ubuntu 14.04) and I do not know how to access the configuration screen
[04:03] <BlooperBoy> it says it's already installed
[04:05] <cbjaxx> BlooperBoy: What mail server are you using
[04:06] <ching-pong-bing-> ching pong bing bong
[04:06] <eftm> i installed grub on /dev/sda and grub still doesn't show up on boot (it goes straight to windows). what gives?
[04:06] <cfhowlett> ching-pong-bing-, stop
[04:07] <ching-pong-bing-> what?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> this is ubuntu support.  ask your support questions.  play elsewhere
[04:07] <ching-pong-bing-> okay sorry
[04:08] <roygbiv> hello excellent people
[04:09] <coffeeguy> um what is bioset?
[04:10] <Kriophoros> [Saint]: thanks
[04:10] <roygbiv> is xfs still being actively used and enhanced?
[04:10] <BlooperBoy> I am usiong postfix
[04:10] <BlooperBoy> I am at a point right now that I do not understand how to add users to it
[04:11] <BlooperBoy> using*
[04:11] <cbjaxx> BlooperBoy: If you are using postfix you can use dpkg-reconfigure postfix, if it is some other you can use dpkg-reconfigure <mail server>.
[04:11] <cfhowlett> BlooperBoy, might ask #ubuntu-server   as well
[04:11] <BlooperBoy> thanks
[04:19] <vincent42> hi all, I'm using terminator as terminal, is there a way to avoir "alt+space" generating a fake space in instead of normal space ?
[04:19] <vincent42> there's no case where I need to have this fake space caracter and I often leave my thumb on alt a bit too long
[04:20] <vincent42> I think it's a "non breakable" space
[04:21] <BlooperBoy> thank you guys for everything you guys do
[04:21] <BlooperBoy> good bye :)
[04:21] <[Saint]> perhaps that is a support task best suited to the developers of said software?
[04:22] <[Saint]> IMO it doesn't really fit into Ubuntu support other than "I happen to be running this on an Ubuntu host", and I'm not really sure if that fits the scope of Ubuntu support or not.
[04:35] <tgm4883> [Saint]: the general rule is, if it's in the repos, we try to support it
[05:20] <revisualize> Greetings and Hello. I have a bit of an issue. I have a p.o.s. computer and I installed a RAID1 with the motherboard. I attempt to do mdadm -E /dev/sda && mdadm -E /dev/sdb ... for /dev/sdb = This Slot : 1 (out-of-sync) & Migrate State : rebuild & Map State : normal <-- degraded The problem that i have is the boot process tells me that the OS needs to do the rebuild but, I can't figure out how to do the rebuild. mdadm: device /d
[05:20] <m_anish__> on Ubuntu installing slapd and phpldapadmin, what should be the default cn, dn values?
[05:24] <whatever_sb_> KeyError: Identifier('sendq') (file "/usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/sopel/tools/target.py", line 65, in clear_user)
[05:39] <m_anish__> on Ubuntu installing slapd and phpldapadmin, what should be the default cn, dn values?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> m_anish__: your on ubuntu server?
[06:35] <Lodiz> Is there anyone that successfully got bumblebee working with 16.04?
[06:48] <abb4s> hi every body , i want to build OpenCv by Cmake but it return an error that say : file DOWNLOAD HASH mismatch
[06:48] <abb4s> can you help ?
[06:57] <syadmin> hello.... I've been hit by this bug where I cannot update my Ubuntu 14.04 because of this error:   "Requires Installation of Untrusted Packages" .  If I press OK, the procedure halts. What can I do???  There is history of this bug since 2012!!!
[07:00] <abb4s> syadmin:  perhaps ubuntu wont give update for your version
[07:01] <abb4s> syadmin:  no sorry , i didn't see 14.04
[07:02] <Seveas> syadmin: disable all non-official repositories and try again.
[07:02] <syadmin> abb4s: Are you fucking kidsding me? 14.04 LTS ????
[07:03] <syadmin> uh... I don't see custom repos
[07:03] <abb4s> syadmin:yeah ? it seems the bug fucked in your brain .. lol
[07:03] <azir018> hey, i've a problem of displaying java applets even by installing icedtea on ubuntu 15.10, any idea?
[07:03] <Seveas> syadmin: pastebin the output of: more /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cat
[07:04] <Seveas> abb4s: syadmin: mind the language please.
[07:04] <Seveas> azir018: it's 2016, java applets are a thing of the past
[07:05] <azir018> so how to make a java web component to get shown in 2016 using firefox?
[07:06] <ubuntu-mate> Hello
[07:06] <Seveas> good morning
[07:06] <ubuntu-mate> Evening in Oz
[07:07] <Seveas> on the internet it's always morning :)
[07:07] <ubuntu-mate> Fair enough..
[07:07] <azir018> Seveas? any idea?
[07:09] <ubuntu-mate> Has anyone got multi touch working on HP Stream 11?
[07:11] <syadmin> Seveas: I seem to have network problems
[07:18] <Multbrelch> Hi all - NFS: can several clients access a server the same time? It should work, righ? However, it doesn't in my case ...
[07:20] <Multbrelch> huhu?
[07:30] <Seveas> Multbrelch: yes, that should work
[07:30] <Seveas> syadmin: what brings you to that conclusion?
[07:31] <hendIBT> join ubuntu
[07:40] <sancho_> salve, qualcuno saprebbe delucidarmi sulle condizioni dell'architettura fibra in Italia?
[07:43] <jnhghy> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade an ubuntu 10.10 to the latest lst but I'm getting error on apt-get update: Something wicked happened resolving 'us.old-releases.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[07:43] <ikonia> looks like that mirror is gone
[07:43] <jnhghy> ping-ing for us.old-releases.ubuntu.com also returns an error... so what should the link be?
[07:43] <ikonia> I'd strongle recommend you not upgrade from 10.10
[07:44] <ikonia> just do a clean install (after you backed up your data) 16.04 is out, stable, LTS in a few days
[07:45] <jnhghy> so there is no way to upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04/14.04?... weird...
[07:45] <ikonia> there is
[07:45] <ikonia> but in my view, it's took big a jump to go through that process,
[07:46] <ikonia> you'd be better served in my view, to backup your key data and do a clean install of a modern releaes (eg: 16.04 out in days)
[08:26] <slappymcfry> Ubuntu logo in the wild http://www.nzma.ac.nz.
[08:39] <computer> is there a way to format a USB flash drive in ubuntu? when i right click the drive in Files i get format option but it does not work. am I doing something wrong?
[08:40] <EriC^^> computer: click on the dash icon and type disks
[08:40] <sam_yan> In ubuntu 15.10,does all services started by d-bus or sd-bus ?
[08:40] <computer> EriC^^: ok what do i do now? i am not sure what to click
[08:41] <EriC^^> computer: click on the disk, then in the right side select the partition and click the cog next to the minus sign at the bottom and choose format
[08:43] <computer> EriC^^: excellent. is there a way to format the whole drive instead of individual partitions?
[08:43] <Ben64> use gparted
[08:44] <EriC^^> computer: you can delete all the partitions and make a single partition and format it
[08:44] <computer> ok
[08:44] <Redbeardt> Can someone tell me how to run something in the terminal so that the terminal will not wait for the process to end before continuing, but also suppress console output from that program? I tried "firefox & > /dev/null" but that didn't do the trick.
[08:45] <EriC^^> firefox >/dev/null &
[08:46] <computer> EriC^^: i deleted all partitions and i got freespace, i tried to format it but i get an error
[08:46] <EriC^^> firefox >/dev/null 2>&1 &
[08:46] <EriC^^> if you want to suppress both stdout and stderr
[08:46] <EriC^^> computer: did you make a partition using the whole free space?
[08:46] <Redbeardt> thanks EriC^^!
[08:46] <EriC^^> no problem Redbeardt
[08:46] <dylan> hey guys could you guys help me with a problem
[08:47] <computer> yes, i think i figured it out, i make 1 partition for the whole drive, i get an error, but if i repeat it it works somehow, is this expected?
[08:47] <EriC^^> computer: not really
[08:47] <dylan> im running elementary os built on ubuntu and my printer is a hp envy 5530 its wifi enabled but it comes up that the scanner cant be used
[08:48] <Ben64> dylan: elementaryos is supported in #elementary
[08:48] <computer> EriC^^: let me walk you throug, 1. deleted partitions, 2. cannot format therefore made 1 partition, 3. get error but partition gets made, 4. format works
[08:48] <EriC^^> what was the error?
[08:48] <computer> EriC^^: Error wiping newly created partition /dev/sdb1
[08:49] <EriC^^> computer: ok, you could use gparted to do it
[08:49] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:50] <computer> EriC^^: thanks
[08:51] <EriC^^> computer: no problem
[08:52] <Flamewolf> Hello!
[08:52] <Flamewolf> I need some help
[08:53] <Flamewolf> Hello?
[08:54] <Ben64> !help | Flamewolf
[08:54] <Flamewolf> ahh, ok. my bad
[08:56] <Flamewolf> Well, i'm installing ubuntu 14.04 and i apparently need some kind of partition at the start of my drive that works as an MBR for the system. Can anybody help me out with that?
[08:57] <Ben64> can you explain a bit more? what tells you you need it? how are you installing? is it dual boot?
[08:59] <ikonia> is this the efi boot partition you're talking about ?
[08:59] <Flamewolf> Okay. So, it's a dual boot between windows 10 and ubuntu 14.04 via USB. im told after the partition selection part that i need a certain partition. i believe it might be the EFI boot partition.
[09:00] <ikonia> ubuntu via usb ?
[09:00] <Flamewolf> Yep.
[09:00] <ikonia> what does that mean ?
[09:00] <ikonia> you boot via usb ?
[09:00] <Flamewolf> Yeah
[09:00] <ikonia> what does that actually mean
[09:01] <Flamewolf> I'm gonna be completely honest, i have no idea. i'm just relaying what my friend told me. i'm clueless with this kind of stuff and i want to learn more, so i thought that downloading it would be the best way.
[09:02] <ikonia> Flamewolf: is your ubuntu install on a usb disk
[09:02] <Flamewolf> Yes.
[09:02] <ikonia> ok, thats a terrible solution in my view,
[09:02] <ikonia> so I don't really want to deal with that
[09:02] <Flamewolf> Fair enough.
[09:04] <Flamewolf> Wait, i think i got it. THanks, though!
[09:04] <EriC^^> Flamewolf: mbr is the master boot record of the disk, it's what the bios looks at when it's looking at the disks to boot
[09:05] <Flamewolf> okay
[09:05] <EriC^^> Flamewolf: it's the first 512bytes of the disk and it also contains the partition table
[09:05] <EriC^^> when ubuntu installs, it installs grub to the mbr of the disk, and so you get a grub menu next time you boot if that disk is first in boot order and you select which os to boot
[09:06] <ikonia> this whole thing is going to fail if the usb disk is not plugged in - even to boot windows
[09:06] <Flamewolf> It is currently plugged in.
[09:06] <ikonia> as it will require the grub config which is on the usb disk to display the menu/be aware of the boot options
[09:06] <ikonia> the second you unplug that, you won't be able to use the machine to boot anything
[09:07] <heap_> hi, why there is no mc package in ubuntu repo
[09:07] <EriC^^> ^ that's not true
[09:07] <Flamewolf> Thanks for the help! I'll probably be back later, though.
[09:07] <ikonia> that is true
[09:07] <ikonia> if it can't find the grub config it won't know what to boot
[09:08] <EriC^^> ikonia: how about the disk after the usb?
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> !info mc | heap_
[09:08] <ikonia> EriC^^: what about it ?
[09:08] <ikonia> EriC^^: the boot sector is not on the mbr - so it won't know what to chain load
[09:08] <EriC^^> ikonia: ..the bios would boot it
[09:08] <ikonia> (the windows boot sector)
[09:08] <ikonia> grub replaces the boot sector for the chain load
[09:08] <heap_> lotuspsychje: ?:) what does it mean
[09:08] <EriC^^> ikonia: you said if he installed ubuntu to his usb, and unplugged the usb, the pc wouldn't be bootable anymore
[09:08] <ikonia> so unless your windows MBR is on a totally seperate "non-pribary boot disk" it won't boot
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> heap_: wich ubuntu version are you running?
[09:09] <heap_> uhm
[09:09] <heap_> how can i find out?
[09:09] <ikonia> EriC^^: he installed ubuntu to it, the installer normally detects the primary boot disk to put grub on, not the install disk
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> heap_: lsb_release -a
[09:09] <ikonia> you can install to /dev/sdd - but grub will still go onto /dev/sda
[09:09] <ikonia> (at a simplistic level)
[09:09] <EriC^^> ikonia: he's going to select his usb as "bootloader location" in the installer, obviously
[09:09] <heap_> 14.04
[09:09] <ikonia> EriC^^: obviously ?
[09:09] <EriC^^> why *would* he install it to the primary disk
[09:09] <EriC^^> ikonia: of course
[09:09] <ikonia> EriC^^: he didn't even know what he was booting from
[09:09] <EriC^^> ikonia: that's why we're here :)
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> heap_: the package mc is available for install for you
[09:10] <heap_> no
[09:10] <heap_> apt-cache search mc
[09:10] <heap_> its not there
[09:10] <ikonia> !info mc
[09:10] <ikonia> in the universe repo it is
[09:10] <heap_> i dont know
[09:10] <heap_> i did apt-cache search mc
[09:10] <heap_> no results
[09:10] <ikonia> "t is in the universe repo"
[09:10] <ikonia> it
[09:11] <heap_> ikonia: what does it mean?
[09:11] <ikonia> the package midnight commander is in the ubuntu repo called universe
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> !universe | heap_
[09:13] <heap_> hmhm is there any way how to get size of the directory?
[09:13] <heap_> othere then using du
[09:13] <ikonia> heap_: thats the correct tool from the command line
[09:14] <ikonia> right click on it from the file manager
[09:14] <heap_> it shows different sizes
[09:14] <heap_> on 2 identical dir on different physical drives
[09:14] <ikonia> what does
[09:14] <EriC^^> heap_: probably a block thing, apparent size vs the blocks it takes up
[09:14] <ikonia> different physical drives - could have anything such as different block sizes,
[09:15] <heap_> so whats why i need to see something to be able to compare
[09:15] <ikonia> heap_: what exactly are you trying to do
[09:15] <heap_> i mean to compare sizes of directories
[09:15] <heap_> i have dir X on drive A and also drive B
[09:15] <ikonia> what's the problem you're trying to solve
[09:16] <heap_> and i need to be sure if it was copied from A to B without problems
[09:16] <ikonia> so you could use rsync
[09:16] <heap_> i did
[09:16] <ikonia> it will checksum the whole directory
[09:16] <heap_> but i wanted to do some doublecheck
[09:16] <ikonia> you did
[09:16] <ikonia> rsync will checksum the directory
[09:16] <heap_> there is no other check?
[09:17] <ikonia> that is the best check
[09:17] <ikonia> you're not adding any value doing anything else, infact you're adding confusion
[09:17] <heap_> ikonia: ah ok
[09:17] <heap_> so no other check is poosible?
[09:18] <EriC^^> heap_: if it's checksummed it's pretty much checksummed
[09:18] <lokien> hey guys, I'm having problems with emacs installation. can anyone help me, please? http://pastebin.com/333Y4xT1
[09:18] <lokien> I removed it lately and can't install it ever since
[09:18] <ikonia> heap_: I've just answered that for you
[09:19] <EriC^^> heap_: i think du -b shows the size without block confusion, for what it's worth
[09:19] <ikonia> but won't that show the different block count ?
[09:19] <ikonia> lokien: quick cheat, just make /etc/emacs24/site-start.d
[09:20] <ikonia> then it can cd and complete it
[09:20] <ikonia> it looks like you've screwed up the common package,
[09:20] <lokien> ikonia: yups, I don't know how/when though
[09:20] <ikonia> doesn't matter when, just fix it,
[09:21] <ikonia> reinstall the common package ? make the directory so the install completes, force a removal of the common package so it doesn't try to upgrade it
[09:21] <ikonia> pick your approach and go
[09:21] <lokien> ikonia: I created the directory, but it still throws me an error
[09:21] <ikonia> lokien: can it cd into that directory
[09:22] <ikonia> is the error the same ? is the error different
[09:22] <lokien> ikonia: I can cd into it, so, I suppose it can
[09:22] <ikonia> is the error the same
[09:22] <lokien> different, I'll paste it in a sec
[09:22] <lokien> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/jxBZzZs3
[09:22] <heap_> ok thanks guys
[09:23] <lokien> oh, I have to create some more directories, I guess
[09:23] <ikonia> lokien: come on - it's the same error, just a different directory
[09:23] <ikonia> apply some logic and walk it through
[09:23] <lokien> ikonia: 'kay, thank you
[09:23] <ikonia> lokien: it seems more sensible to remove this whole package if you no longer want it
[09:23] <ikonia> or re-install it
[09:24] <heap_> EriC^^: du -hs shows also different sizes -;-(((
[09:24] <ikonia> heap_: of course it will
[09:24] <ikonia> you've just done the same command as before - but with human readable format
[09:24] <ikonia> heap_: is there a reason you are ignoring what you are being told ?
[09:24] <EriC^^> heap_: try du -sb
[09:24] <lokien> ikonia: I tried to, but it was throwing another error. now it succeeded though
[09:25] <heap_> ikonia: i got lost
[09:25] <ikonia> heap_: just trust the rsync
[09:25] <ikonia> you're making a problem where one doesn't exist
[09:25] <heap_> ikonia: okay
[09:25] <heap_> thanks
[09:27] <lokien> ikonia: now it works! thank you very much
[09:28] <ikonia> you fixed it yourself
[09:28] <ikonia> so thank yourself
[09:37] <syadmin> \
[09:48] <heap_> EriC^^: -sb same issue
[09:48] <EriC^^> ok
[09:48] <heap_> so thats weird
[09:48] <EriC^^> not really
[09:48] <heap_> there is no tool in linux to count total dir size
[09:48] <heap_> between different devices
[09:49] <Ben64> du
[09:50] <heap_> Ben64: what
[09:50] <heap_> Ben64: i use du and results are different.
[09:50] <jatt> ncdu
[09:51] <Ben64> heap_: different than what
[09:52] <ikonia> heap_: how many times do you have to be told
[09:52] <ikonia> heap_: you keep saying "ok - I trust the rsync" then ignoring everything else and keep complaining
[09:52] <ikonia> heap_: it's getting tedious now, TRUST the rsync checksum - it is the best confidence you will get
[09:53] <lok> if client A needs information from Client C; should it be passed via Server B?
[09:54] <ikonia> lok: you've just said something that makes no sense
[09:54] <heap_> ikonia: because i like to double check with different tools
[09:54] <lok> ikonia: i want to understand how client server model works
[09:54] <heap_> ikonia: i dont trust one tool
[09:54] <ikonia> heap_: you've already double checked
[09:54] <ikonia> lok: this is not the channel, nor is #debian
[09:55] <ikonia> lok: look at ##progamming and ask a more specific question, such as could someone explain 2 tier client/server architecture
[09:56] <heap_> ikonia: doublechecked how? to 2 times run rsync?
[09:56] <ikonia> heap_: no - trust the rsync
[09:56] <ikonia> heap_: you are making a problem where one doesn't exist
[09:56] <ikonia> the rsync does the copy and the checksum verifys the copy
[09:56] <ikonia> there is your two checks, the file list, then the checksum
[09:56] <ikonia> trust the checksum, you are creating a problem,
[09:57] <lok> ikonia: thanks for advice
[09:58] <sancho_> hi my volume indicator is not working, i can scroll up and down but volume won't follow my directive. what can i do to ripristinate functionality?
[09:59] <dreadkopp> hey guys. i cannot get fanspeeds via sensors. anyone might have an idea? Sensor is Fintek F71889F
[10:04] <heap_> ikonia: ok i have to trust it
[10:05] <de-facto> dreadkopp did you "sensors-detect" ?
[10:06] <de-facto> !info lm-sensors
[10:06] <odroid> test
[10:09] <dreadkopp> de-facto: yeah. i get readouts for temperatures and voltages but fanspeeds are reported as 0 rpm
[10:10] <dreadkopp> http://pastie.org/10799630
[10:10] <sancho_> i solved but don't know how lol
[10:10] <de-facto> dreadkopp i had to manually edit /etc/sensors3.conf for mine to work properly
[10:11] <de-facto> i think there are some snippets found for sensors not included in the distro package on their website
[10:14] <dreadkopp> de-facto: okay, will check it. however while pwm values are detected an can be changed it seems i do not get any rpm speeds from the chip? http://pastie.org/10799636
[10:15] <de-facto> dreadkopp idk the exact cause, i just made the experience that for my chip i had to slightly customize since it also was partly working only with the default config
[10:18] <de-facto> dreadkopp hmm it seems their website is down but maybe https://web.archive.org/web/20150627203042/http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices could help a bit
[10:19] <dreadkopp> thanks for the link :)
[10:25] <phelix> Can someone please help me figure out how to install nvidia with multiple monitors... i have tried like 100 different tutorials from google. I have reinstalled ubuntu like 4 times.. nothing seems to work
[10:27] <phelix> been at this for like 10 hours
[10:28] <dreadkopp> phelix: you installed the proprietary drivers?
[10:29] <phelix> ive installed one from website ive installed from apt-get install nvidia-current about 20 different ways
[10:31] <dreadkopp> phelix: which one is your card? and what is the problem exactly?
[10:32] <phelix> gerforce GT 740
[10:33] <phelix> only time it works is on fresh install. I can go to the system preferences and additional drivers and select the nvidia option. But only 1 monitor displays. Even if it see's all of them i can't get any other monitor  to dispolay anything
[10:34] <phelix> i tried installing it from command line now with sudo apt-get install nvidia-352 and now I am in a login loop i type my password and it just repeats
[10:35] <dreadkopp> 352 seems about the correct one. You get correct resolution at loginscreen?
[10:36] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[10:36] <OnkelTem> I wonder at the mess of all those .desktop files in the system
[10:37] <dreadkopp> at this point driver should be allready loaded. So your loginloop might be due to something else
[10:37] <OnkelTem> Can anyone provide a link to an overview of this mess?
[10:38] <phelix> yeah for a single monitor it seemed to be ok
[10:38] <phelix> but no other monitors would display anything
[10:39] <phelix> login loop happened after i tried to install a different version
[10:42] <de-facto> phelix try installing the official nvidia-current from ubuntu repos and then use nvidia-settings to adjust monitors
[10:43] <phelix> from their website with the .run file?
[10:44] <de-facto> nope nothing from nvidia directly
[10:44] <phelix> what ppa has the best nvidia-current?
[10:44] <de-facto> from the ubuntu repositories
[10:44] <de-facto> !info nvidia-current
[10:45] <phelix> just what comes stock with ubuntu install?
[10:45] <de-facto> yeah i would recommend to go with those
[10:45] <phelix> ive tried that like 4 times
[10:45] <de-facto> have you used nvidia-settings on that?
[10:45] <phelix> only 1 monitor will display
[10:45] <phelix> yes
[10:46] <de-facto> so what was the exact problem you encountered?
[10:46] <phelix> after then installing from command line then i just get login loop
[10:46] <de-facto> so you installed nvidia-current on a fresh ubuntu install without installing from third party and get a login loop?
[10:47] <phelix> yes on my most recent install
[10:48] <phelix> so right from straight fresh install just go to shell and try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current?
[10:48] <phelix> don't need to add any extra ppa?
[10:48] <ChunkzZ> hi, where can I download the 16.04 RC?
[10:48] <de-facto> yes dont use third party, they might mess up your config
[10:48] <phelix> and then reboot ?
[10:49] <EriC^^> ChunkzZ: there's no RC, just the daily image
[10:49] <ChunkzZ> you sure?
[10:50] <EriC^^> i think so, an op here mentioned it earlier
[10:50] <de-facto> ChunkzZ you might want to join #ubuntu+1 for that
[10:50] <EriC^^> ^ good idea
[10:52] <ChunkzZ> thanks.
[11:01] <partrob> I am facing a problem with ubuntu m running xubuntu 14.04 I am unable to loack screen with ctrl+alt_del and xflock4 command
[11:01] <partrob> When I run the command  system going into black screen then I have to reboot to work again
[11:10] <billydaz> partrob you have to disbale ctrl+alt+del first
[11:10] <boxmein> wonder if i can setup smartcard logins or something via lightdm
[11:12] <xpheres> hello, what is the channel for ubuntu developers?
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: #ubuntu-devel
[11:12] <xpheres> thanks
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: is it for a question or to help contribute?
[11:13] <xpheres> it is a question regarding ubuntu sdk, I develop apps for ubuntu phone
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: there is also #ubuntu-touch and the XDA forums to help
[11:14] <xpheres> ah thanks
[11:15] <requiemd> hello
[11:15] <requiemd> who is familiar with systemd? check pls http://pastebin.com/h9KQ8zxt
[11:27] <adinorteylawerte> heya all
[11:27] <FMan> hi
[11:27] <adinorteylawerte> am new to thi schat but i like it
[11:27] <adinorteylawerte> who here is a developer
[11:28] <adinorteylawerte> ?
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> adinorteylawerte: you joined the ubuntu support channel, to ask ubuntu issues
[11:28] <adinorteylawerte> hey
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> adinorteylawerte: so only ubuntu questions here, other chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:29] <adinorteylawerte> ok
[11:30] <adinorteylawerte> does anyone have any idea how i could customize my ubuntu login screen?
[11:30] <EriC^^> adinorteylawerte: anything in mind?
[11:31] <EriC^^> you can change the background and remove the dots and sound easily
[11:32] <ropo> where shoud i put my enevironmet variables in .bashrc?
[11:32] <brainwash> requiemd: does 3proxy appear in the process list after starting the service?
[11:33] <requiemd> brainwash: no
[11:33] <brainwash> requiemd: did you try to start 3proxy directly?
[11:34] <requiemd> brainwash: yes, when i starting it directly - it working well
[11:36] <brainwash> requiemd: maybe you need to add Type=forking to [Service]. that's what other service files for 3proxy suggest.
[11:37] <brainwash> requiemd: other than that, you may want to ask in #systemd
[11:38] <requiemd> brainwash: i will try ty
[11:40] <bot_> hello guy's
[11:40] <Guest53503> #ubuntu
[11:40] <Guest53503> de
[11:42] <Raspberry> Hello
[11:42] <Zaitzev> ugh, tried to launch a game and now 2 of the 3 monitors are disabled. How do I re-detect them? Do I have to reboot or restart X?
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> Zaitzev: reboot or xrandr --auto perhaps
[11:43] <Zaitzev> ah, xrandr worked. Thanks! :)
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Zaitzev
[11:45] <OnkelTem> How to start something BEFORE window manager starts?
[11:45] <Raspberry> Can I make my one HexChat server?
[11:45] <OnkelTem> I switched to AWM and would like to rand xrandr command before AWM actually starts
[11:45] <OnkelTem> to run*
[11:46] <Zaitzev> doesn't look like Starbound wants to play nice for me :p
[11:46] <bazhang> Raspberry, an ircd, sure but you should choose the proper channel for it
[11:47] <ChunkzZ> ikonia, y'know 16.04 LTS, will there be a server image?
[11:48] <ikonia> ChunkzZ: yes there will - and as I said before #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 discussion
[11:48] <bekks> ChunkzZ: Yes.
[11:48] <ChunkzZ> ikonia, okay.
[11:48] <ChunkzZ> bekks, thanks.
[11:48] <Gruburgur> yes now im here
[11:49] <Gruburgur> So whats new in the latest Ubuntu?
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> Gruburgur: join #ubuntu+1 please
[11:50] <bekks> Gruburgur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes
[11:50] <boxmein> OnkelTem: use xinitrc, but this means you have to make a generic "xinitrc" desktop file and switch to that in lightdm instead of "Ubuntu Desktop"
[11:51] <ratrace> bekks: that's not latest :)
[11:52] <boxmein> OnkelTem: for example
[11:52] <bekks> ratrace: It is the latest release.
[11:52] <bekks> !16.04 | ratrace
[11:52] <OnkelTem> boxmein: I use KDE so I'd like to do it with KDE way :)
[11:53] <ratrace> I'm pretty sure Gruburgur was asking bout Xenial :)
[11:53] <boxmein> OnkelTem: uh, the KDE way assumes that KDE is going to handle running the scripts...which it can't do if it isn't started?
[11:54] <requiemd> brainwash: true, it wasn't start because of daemon mode of process in 3proxy.cfg
[11:55] <OnkelTem> boxmein: what isn't started? Ok, let me explain what I do. I want to run custom xrandr command to properly layout my monitors. Also, I've replaced Plasma with AWM, so I have some way to run my command before AWM starts or it will need a restart if xrandr starts after
[11:55] <OnkelTem> I (need to)+ have
[12:05] <alcoder> hi, this question is regarding , ensuring the FAT32 SD card is clean (wrt unrecoverable files) before i pass it to next person. The method i followed, is dd if=/dev/zero of=file.txt count=1024 bs=32505856 (32G), and wrote to the sd card with split utility  , split --verbose --bytes=3G ./file.txt  /media/hifiuser/4CDB-130A/file
[12:06] <alcoder> will this ensure that all previous contents in the sectors are over written?
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> alcoder: test it with photorec, and try to recover data from it...if photorec cant find it, its gone
[12:09] <boxmein> OnkelTem: hm, no clue then. you might get away with going straight to X config and skipping the xrandring
[12:09] <boxmein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/63681/how-can-i-make-xrandr-customization-permanent
[12:09] <OnkelTem> boxmein: thanks, will check it out. Currently I'm reading about customizing KDE via Xsetup
[12:09] <OnkelTem>                       
[12:10] <OnkelTem> https://www.maketecheasier.com/run-startup-scripts-in-kdm-before-kde-starts/
[12:10] <boxmein> OnkelTem: KDE seems fancy... why did you transition from unity?
[12:10] <alcoder> lotuspsychje, thank you,
[12:12] <OnkelTem> boxmein: I've never actually used untity. My background is: fluxbox, blacbox, Gnome2, Gnome3... and I loved Gnome3 until its developers had broken keyboard layout support and afaik 14.04 ships with that broken layouts
[12:13] <OnkelTem> boxmein: so I had to switch to KDE
[12:13] <boxmein> OnkelTem: my cycle has currently been gnome-unity-gnome-awesome-lxde-mate-unity-cinnamon-awesome-xmonad-unity, I skipped out on awesome/xmonad because they were neat but have a lot of maintenance and setup overhead before they get to a daily use state
[12:13] <OnkelTem> Ahha
[12:13] <boxmein> OnkelTem: wait, so your X keyboard layouts broke?
[12:14] <boxmein> is that related to unity/etc at all, :o
[12:14] <OnkelTem> boxmein: currently not - KDE has no such an issue
[12:14] <OnkelTem> boxmein: as for AWM - totally agreed, and I spent about two weeks (to the moment) and yet haven't tammed it
[12:16] <OnkelTem> but! I see a plot on how I will make it do what I want. In any way, I see my future tied to either DWM or AWM :)
[12:17] <boxmein> OnkelTem: once I spend considerable time setting it up how I want and implementing cool UI I'll get to use it too :P
[12:30] <andywork> is there some permission I can set on a file to prevent deletion?
[12:32] <EriC^^> andywork: chattr +i /path/to/file
[12:35] <andywork> EriC^^: thanks man
[12:35] <EriC^^> andywork: no problem
[12:40] <chaouki> Hi
[12:40] <chaouki> can someone tell me what this means :
[12:41] <chaouki> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:41] <chaouki> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:41] <EriC^^> chaouki: it means something else is using dpkg like software-center or another terminal
[12:42] <chaouki> oh yes I'm using software-update
[12:42] <chaouki> so when I finish I can install normally ?
[12:42] <EriC^^> yes
[12:43] <chaouki> thanks :)
[12:43] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[12:59] <MaybeADumbQuesti> hello - why are the file / edit / help menus not in the window of the application? Is that a glitch or by design?
[13:01] <baizon> MaybeADumbQuesti: i dont understand your question
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> MaybeADumbQuesti: if you mean on unity, its a setting you set menu's ontop visible or not
[13:01] <baizon> MaybeADumbQuesti: its a design, but you can also change it
[13:01] <MaybeADumbQuesti> Where do you change it? And is there a reason why somebody would want to leave it like that or is it 100% personal preference?
[13:02] <ouroumov> It's personal preference
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> MaybeADumbQuesti: appereance icon/2nd tab
[13:02] <MaybeADumbQuesti> For the longest time I thought the app was corrupted or something because I didn't see the menu bar at the top of the screen, out of the window
[13:03] <MaybeADumbQuesti> Awesome! Thank you!
[13:03] <MaybeADumbQuesti> Out of curiosity, is there a functional reason why some people like it the other way?
[13:03] <macskay> Hey guys, i'm trying to setup a postfix server. At the moment I can send mails from the CLI, but can't receive any. When trying to "telnet" to port 25 it tells me "Connection closed by foreign host". Has anyone experienced that before?
[13:04] <ikonia> macskay: it's not configured properly
[13:04] <ikonia> macskay: are you doing this on a home connection
[13:04] <macskay> Nope on a dedicated server
[13:05] <ikonia> macskay: ok - so you need to configure postfix to listen on that address and have control rules in place of what can connect to it
[13:05] <hexhaxtron> Can someone suggest me a cheap scanner/printer that works well with Ubuntu?
[13:05] <ikonia> macskay: a look at the logs will tell you why it's closing straight away
[13:05] <DEFKOR> hello, check out my debian, http://sh.st/Iex1p , i built from linux from scratch using mac UI
[13:05] <macskay> ikonia: I did that hang on, i'll show you my conf.
[13:05] <ikonia> macskay: I don't want to see your conf
[13:05] <ikonia> macskay: look in the logs and that will tell you why it's closing straight away
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> MaybeADumbQuesti: no menu text can be less confusing for the users who like it
[13:05] <DEFKOR> please give me some feedback :)
[13:05] <ikonia> DEFKOR: no thanks
[13:06] <macskay> ikonia: Hm yes, but why can I send mails when it's closing down?
[13:06] <ikonia> DEFKOR: this is an ubuntu support channel
[13:06] <ikonia> macskay: "send mails when it's closing down" ???
[13:06] <macskay> well you suggest the mailserver closes down, thus I can't connect via telnet, but why can I send mails from CLI when the mailserver is down
[13:07] <ikonia> macskay: the mail server isn't down
[13:07] <ikonia> macskay: it's refusing connections from your host
[13:07] <ikonia> sending mail from the command line is probably referencing localhost
[13:07] <macskay> oh you meant "closing down" as in "closing down" the connection to my host from home
[13:07] <ikonia> macskay: I mean exactly what I said, it's refusing connections from your host
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> hexhaxtron: hp printers work very well, but other brands with the right drivers also working
[13:14] <nuno_nunes> transform ubuntu in windows 10: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Windows+10+Transformation+Pack?content=171327
[13:14] <chaouki> Hi
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | nuno_nunes
[13:15] <chaouki> I have a problem in booting from GRUB to windows
[13:15] <chaouki> I had horizontal colored lines that dispear in 10 seconds
[13:15] <chaouki> how can I fix that
[13:15] <chaouki> ?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:26] <znr> heya peeps! I have an issue with my 'new' screen. After setting the resolution - a part of the image is outside the screen... how can I fix this?
[13:29] <bekks> znr: Sounds like your screen doesnt support your selected resolution.
[13:31] <znr> bekks:: is there a way to get around this?
[13:32] <bekks> znr: Select a resolution that is supported by your screen.
[13:32] <znr> the screen itself - according to the specs - should support the resolution
[13:32] <bekks> So which exact model is it?
[13:32] <znr> http://specsen.com/monitors-lg/lg-flatron-l1917s/
[13:33] <znr> which file to edit?
[13:33] <bekks> File to edit?
[13:33] <znr> yes
[13:33] <bekks> You cannot magically make your screen support resolutions :D
[13:34] <bekks> Which resolution do you use?
[13:34] <znr> but I can manually edit the values
[13:34] <bekks> Which values?
[13:34] <znr> 1280x1024 was not to choose
[13:35] <bekks> znr: And which resolution ARE you using then...?
[13:35] <znr> CRT-1: 1360x768
[13:36] <bekks> znr: thats a resolution not supported by your screen.
[13:36] <znr> can not even get the screens name in nvidia-settings
[13:36] <bekks> znr: Use a supported resolution. Maximum is 1280x1024 for your screen.
[13:38] <znr> I edited the nvidia-settings to use 1280x1024 now (manually) and it works - kind of
[13:38] <wh3ko19> Is there any desktop environment like Cinnamon that works well with Ubuntu? I really like how Cinnamon works, but it's been getting increasingly unstable.
[13:39] <wh3ko19> Can't get Japanese IME support to work properly.
[13:39] <wh3ko19> When I do "shut down" it gives a popup that says "Really shut down?" with the only option being "cancel"
[13:39] <wh3ko19> Various other issues.
[13:40] <wh3ko19> I am thinking I might have to switch to Arch with Cinnamon, but I don't know how much of the stuff in my home folder and whatnot will be compatible across distros.
[13:41] <bekks> wh3ko19: For a stable release, just use Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu.
[13:41] <wh3ko19> Those are not desktop environments...
[13:42] <bekks> Ubuntu uses Unity, Lubuntu uses LXDE, Kubuntu uses KDE and Xubuntu uses XFCE
[13:42] <wh3ko19> Yes. I'm looking for something similar to Cinnamon.
[13:43] <wh3ko19> And I won't use Mint for security reasons.
[13:43] <bekks> wh3ko19: None of them is.
[13:43] <wh3ko19> Hm. Guess I'll have to switch to Arch.
[13:43] <wh3ko19> Anyone know how difficult the switch is?
[13:43] <bekks> For a desktop environment? :)
[13:44] <wh3ko19> No, I think Cinnamon has better support for Arch.
[13:44] <bekks> wh3ko19: Expect thiings tp break regularly with every update, since Arch is a rolling release distro.
[13:44] <bekks> Expect things in your home not working, since Arch may use different settings.
[13:44] <wh3ko19> It's kind of a pain, I really wish Mint weren't such a colossal mess.
[13:44] <bekks> Besides that: Good luck. You'll need it.
[13:45] <wh3ko19> I really love Cinnamon.
[13:45] <bekks> There is even Ubuntu MATE.
[13:46] <wh3ko19> I think I prefer GTK3.
[13:46] <andywork> wait mint is a mess?
[13:46] <rud0lf> how do they bring new versions? they make Ubuntu's mate
[13:46] <rud0lf> huehue
[13:46] <rud0lf> -'
[13:47] <captainfantastic> is docker for xenial not in their ppa yet?
[13:47] <bekks> captainfantastic: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:47] <wh3ko19> andywork: Last time I used it it was decent but there were a lot of concerns expressed about the security and the way updates are handled.
[13:48] <wh3ko19> andywork: Then recently a compromised ISO was released in the wild.
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> lets not discuss mint issues here
[13:48] <wh3ko19> Sure.
[13:48] <andywork> alright
[13:49] <ouroumov> wh3ko19: go with Ubuntu MATE
[13:54] <LaserAllan> Hey guys, I am trying to play some video files but for some reason it asks for a plugin tht aprently is missing
[13:54] <LaserAllan> "video/ -x unknown decoder"
[13:54] <TheSuperGeek> LaserAllan: which software ?
[13:55] <bekks> LaserAllan: So whats the output of "file yourvideofile"?
[13:55] <LaserAllan> TheSuperGeek: VLC Media Player and i've also tried the "video" player tht comes with it
[13:55] <andywork> LaserAllan: do you get any sound?
[13:55] <LaserAllan> andywork: Sound but no video
[13:56] <bekks> LaserAllan: So whats the output of "file yourvideofile"?
[13:56] <andywork> LaserAllan: you probably need to add a PPA for H.265
[13:56] <LaserAllan> bekks: I guess i should do that in the terminal?
[13:56] <bekks> LaserAllan: Correct.
[13:56] <LaserAllan> Ok lemme see
[13:56] <bekks> andywork: How do you know, without even knowing anything about the video?
[13:57] <andywork> alright, sorry, no I don't know
[13:59] <svakali>     /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER svakali ezfbwtzfzfcr
[13:59] <LaserAllan> bekks: EBML file, creator matroska
[13:59] <LaserAllan> bekks: thats what I could find it
[13:59] <LaserAllan> It plays on my plex server fine but not if i wanna play it with a software
[14:00] <BluesKaj> svakali, put that command in the serverbox , not the chat
[14:01] <LaserAllan> bekks: I dunno if that helped but just to let you know thats the output
[14:01] <reeed> hi guys. i need help with a grub problem and #grub seems dead (111 nicks, no replies).
[14:02] <reeed> i installed GRUB on a second disk, with a small ext2 partition containing the grub files
[14:02] <reeed> when I boot the second disk, GRUB drops into a rescue shell because it cannot locate the ext2 partition
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> reeed: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[14:02] <reeed> 14.04
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> !grub | reeed
[14:03] <reeed> ok
[14:04] <reeed> but i didn't lose GRUB
[14:04] <reeed> GRUB can't find the partition.
[14:04] <reeed> but the super-grub2-disk rescue CD can.
[14:04] <BluesKaj> reeed, uefi or bios?
[14:04] <reeed> bios
[14:04] <reeed> real old laptop
[14:04] <reeed> not a hint of EFI
[14:05] <reeed> grub-install went well (using --boot-directory /mnt)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> ok then just run sudo grub-install dev/sdX  whatever the drive dev name is
[14:09] <reeed> Ubuntu on the first drive is fine.
[14:09] <reeed> i'm trying to get GRUB to boot off the second disk
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> reeed: you want 2 grubs? perhaps if you tell us your endgoal with all this?
[14:16] <reeed> the second disk will be moved onto a separate machine
[14:16] <svakali> sd
[14:18] <Redbeardt> Bloody hell. Anyone know what the issue could be as to why I can't 'browse files' on my Samsung Galaxy S3 over Bluetooth from Ubuntu?
[14:18] <Redbeardt> DuckDuckGo isn't helping much
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> reeed: why dont you place the hd directly in the second machine, and install grub from your wanted ubuntu?
[14:20] <reeed> it's because the target machine is an old laptop with a bad display, i have no chance to set the BIOS to boot from anywhere other than its harddisk.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: you have developer mode enabled on your phone? tried blueman on ubuntu?
[14:20] <reeed> i know it boots from HD well.
[14:20] <reeed> i must have a working boot before i move the disk over
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> reeed: no cdrom in that laptop?
[14:21] <pc_> #kubuntu
[14:21] <reeed> sorta a headless setup
[14:21] <LaserAllan> It seems that I cannot play .mkv files for some reason
[14:21] <LaserAllan> other formats works just fine
[14:21] <reeed> not sure if the CD drive still works. and I haven't tried to see if it boots from CD before HD
[14:21] <Redbeardt> lotuspsychje: Yep I have it enabled. I haven't tried blueman so I'll give that a shot. Thanks.
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> reeed: there's a nice 'plop boot manager' that can force old laptops to boot ubuntu usb
[14:23] <reeed> ah, but you have to setup the BIOS to boot from USB, no?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> reeed: no, the plop boot manager will get you a menu, and choose the usb
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> very handy
[14:23] <reeed> that's the thing -- I can't go into BIOS. I don't know the keystroke, and connecting an external monitor doesn't work until BIOS POST is done.
[14:24] <reeed> how do I boot plot bootmgr?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> reeed: check their website and burn to a cdrom
[14:24] <reeed> ok
[14:24] <flux242> hi, i couldnt remember a tool that would save all changes made to /etc. A little tip mayby?
[14:24] <reeed> ok will try that. thanks lotus
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: vlc should play .mkv by default, weird
[14:25] <LaserAllan> lotuspsychje: it plays mp4 and other formats
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: got the right graphics driver active?
[14:26] <LaserAllan> lotuspsychje: actually that I don't know since i just installed it like 2-3 days ago
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: can you check your additional drivers section, to see wich driver is active?
[14:28] <Redbeardt> lotuspsychje: No apparent change with that blueman thingy :p
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: hmm not sure then, perhaps check your syslog/dmesg or connect your ubuntu with a cable?
[14:30] <Redbeardt> lotuspsychje: Aye I checked dmesg but everything looks dandy in there
[14:30] <Redbeardt> lotuspsychje: The browse file button seems to do nothing! Oh well. USB it is.
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: you got other devices to work on your BT?
[14:30] <timursergeevich> привет)
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: perhaps its the BT chipset thats not recognized?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !ru | timursergeevich
[14:31] <timursergeevich> !ru
[14:31] <Redbeardt> It's recognised and paired, and I can even do 'send files', but not 'browse files'. Hah!
[14:32] <Redbeardt> lotuspsychje: I just noticed that every time I click 'Browse Files' i get one of these in dmesg "[21389.033226] input: 74:45:8A:75:64:C7 as /devices/virtual/input/input18
[14:32] <Redbeardt> I guess I've clicked it 18 times now >_>
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: wich ubuntu version is this?
[14:34] <LaserAllan> lotuspsychje: Where do i check which driver is active?
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: additional drivers section, or sudo lshw -C video (behind driver=)
[14:36] <LaserAllan> lotuspsychje: I pmed you, hopefully that was ok
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: ok looks good
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: can you start vlc from a terminal, try to play the mkv and pastebin us the output of errors?
[14:38] <Redbeardt> lotuspsychje: This is.. a 16 LTS daily. I guess I should be in #ubuntu+1.
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: yes, lets move to there
[14:49] <citizen_> anyone active?
[14:49] <EriC^^> what's the problem?
[14:51] <citizen_> just not having anyone around to ask linux questions in real life and then finding someone on irc that is active.
[14:51] <EriC^^> no i mean what's the linux problem?
[14:52] <citizen_> oh, i have a process that is running 49.50% of my cpu (x2)
[14:52] <nedstark> in real life, i call richard stallman for all of my linux questions
[14:52] <EriC^^> citizen_: which process?
[14:52] <citizen_> i would like to find it i guess with htop or ps aux and then research what the process is and find out if i can fix it or if its normal
[14:52] <citizen_> gvfsd-smb-brows
[14:52] <EriC^^> citizen_: ok, type top and it should show up at the top
[14:52] <citizen_> sorry i dont know how to talk back to you in green
[14:53] <EriC^^> looks like a mounting daemon for samba from the name
[14:53] <akik> citizen_: if i'd have to guess it's indexing your samba share
[14:54] <citizen_> pid-23359 user-me  pr-20 ni-0 virt-655780 res-12192 %cpu=99.7 %mem-0.2 command-gvfsd-smb
[14:55] <EriC^^> citizen_: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1303300
[14:55] <citizen_> i will have to reaserch samaba but im sure i dont have it installed this is a fresh install of lubuntu with just gedit conky and ciaro-docker installed so far
[14:55] <citizen_> nice thanks ubottu checking it now?
[14:55] <citizen_> can i ask how you were able to find it so fast?
[14:55] <EriC^^> citizen_: there's also this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/532024
[14:56] <EriC^^> citizen_: i typed gvfsd-smb in google
[14:56] <citizen_> genuis lol
[14:56] <EriC^^> lol :D
[15:00] <aclaudem> Any gtk high contrast themes besides the one ubuntu comes with? (I already checked gnome-look)
[15:01] <citizen_> high contrast like black and white?
[15:01] <aclaudem> Doesnt have to be black and white, but yes
[15:02] <citizen_> my wife was just looking at those lastnight i think the website was boxlook.com or something to that effect
[15:02] <aclaudem> Oh yeah thats the openbox+gtk2 (old gnome)
[15:03] <aclaudem> (Ill check if they have gtk3)
[15:03] <aclaudem> thanks!
[15:03] <citizen_> they do im almost positive
[15:03] <citizen_> no problem
[15:03] <aclaudem> I just wonder if they have the same ones I saw on gnome-look but worth a look
[15:03] <citizen_> i just finished themeing my box so if any more questions just ask
[15:04] <citizen_> deviantart has some too
[15:06] <citizen_> none of those bug reports have a fix yet =(
[15:07] <aclaudem> ok so boxlook is the same stuff as gnomelook, and Id checked deviantart already boo. Wish I were good at this stuff so I could make my own :S
[15:07] <citizen_> anyone have anyidea how to get conky to display tailf .bash_history
[15:08] <citizen_> what are you wanting high contrast the icons or the whole shebang
[15:08] <aclaudem> Just the theme not the icons
[15:08] <citizen_> with DE
[15:09] <citizen_> what*
[15:09] <aclaudem> Gnome shell
[15:09] <aclaudem> But I dont need a shell theme just a GTK theme
[15:10] <citizen_> https://www.google.com/search?q=gtk+3.0+high+contrast+theme&client=ubuntu&hs=c6T&channel=fs&biw=1158&bih=651&source=lnms&tbm=isch&tbs=qdr:y&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvvbWhuJPMAhWBTSYKHdTOCYYQ_AUICCgD
[15:10] <aclaudem> Thanks citizen but Ive been looking already since last October :)
[15:10] <aclaudem> Thats why I asked
[15:10] <citizen_> lol there was only about 8 to choose from anyways that sucks man
[15:12] <aclaudem> The default high contrast looks good most of the time, it's just apps like firefox and hexchat look like windows millennium :P
[15:13] <aclaudem> OK, fine, like windows 98.
[15:13] <citizen_> i follow you man but dont have the creative mind to envision your set up
[15:14] <citizen_> li1309-23.members.linode.com https - how can i find out why that link is always connected to my outbound internet using 400b/sec
[15:15] <afidegnum> hello, please I am having problem installing PHP-GDAl on ubuntu trusty,  have you every successfully tried ?
[15:19] <akik> citizen_: "sudo lsof -i" shows your connections and processes
[15:20] <citizen_> its katana forinsics coming from my plex server
[15:20] <citizen_> strange cuz thats a LE forinsics company
[15:22] <cliffer> after installing openldap and phamm, im getting the error "invalid dn (vd=cembot.de,o=hosting,dc=cembot,dc=de)" but upon running "ldapsearch -x -b 'dc=cembot,dc=de' '(objectclass=*)'" the ouput just shows infos about the dn: http://pastebin.com/VZnJedWy . where can i look for errors next?
[15:23] <stacks88> when i iptables-save and reboot the rules are gone. where do i need to save them ? iptables-save > /path/to/where ?
[15:23] <stacks88> to keep them going
[15:26] <cliffer> stacks88: do you have iptables-persistent installed?
[15:26] <cliffer> *sad_trombone*
[15:35] <texla> nt17
[15:37] <l0ll1p0p> +++
[15:37] <smellsLikeGoatSp> #raspberrypi
[15:44] <citizen_> can i make a ufw rule to block a ip address block from .1 - .255
[15:45] <citizen_> at once or 255 seperate rules
[15:47] <superfirelord42> citizen_: should be able to do it at once, although I am a tad out of date on the syntax.
[15:49] <citizen_> superfirelord42: can you tell me what the search term for such a thing would be?
[15:50] <superfirelord42> citizen_: I found this: https://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/11/07/blocking-ip-range-using-ufw/ (sorry, don’t have a favorite shortener atm)
[15:50] <superfirelord42> citizen_: and I assume you would just alter your /21 to be a larget netmask
[15:50] <hylian> just curious, if i were to do a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 beta 2, and then when the finished project came out on april 21st, after updating, would I then have the non bets version, or would I be running the beta version until i re-installed?
[15:51] <citizen_> superfirelord42: thanks - this is my first foray into blocking stuff or working with ufw
[15:51] <citizen_> hylian - i think it would change as soon as you did a distr-upgrade or even maybe upgrade && update
[15:52] <tanstaafl74> Anyone know about mount commands for windows host -> ubuntu guest shared folders?
[15:52] <akik> citizen_: for example 192.168.1.0/24 is defining a network space from 192.168.1.0 to .255
[15:52] <hylian> citizen_: hmm, thanks. I am considering jumping the gun and installing 16.04 now, because i know those servers are gonna be slowed down a bit on the 21st.
[15:53] <citizen_> i lose it where the /24 is covering the whole block
[15:53] <citizen_>  is /24 a option or modifier type command
[15:54] <superfirelord42> citizen_: This may help a tad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_subnetting_reference (I am reading it now as a referesher myself)
[15:54] <tanstaafl74> I'm using "sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=user,gid=user Source /home/user/Source" to mount some shared folders, which works fine, but they're locked with permissions 777
[15:54] <tanstaafl74> Does anyone know the mount command to use if I want 755?
[15:54] <teward> tanstaafl74: umask=0022
[15:55] <akik> citizen_: /24 is the netmask = 255.255.255.0
[15:55] <teward> tanstaafl74: but lets do some otner important things first
[15:55] <tanstaafl74> teward: inserted where into the mount command? before the -o or after?
[15:55] <teward> tanstaafl74: find the UID of your user, and GID of your user.  Use the Numbers.
[15:55] <citizen_> hylian - i like trying new stuff also i beleive a few of the flavors are 16.04 also you could just run it in a vm till then and test it out that way
[15:55] <dean_> I have a problem with my keyboard. wireless keyboard works fine and the laptop keyboard works fine on windows but the laptop keyboard is glitchy on linux. Not just ubuntu. Have tested arch and debian. The shift key works on and off and the ctrl key clicks by itself sometimes.
[15:55] <citizen_> thanks superfirelord42
[15:56] <teward> tanstaafl74: your -o then becomes: -o uid=####,gid=####,umask=0000
[15:56] <teward> erm
[15:56] <teward> tanstaafl74: your -o then becomes: -o uid=####,gid=####,umask=0022
[15:56] <tanstaafl74> teward: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[15:56] <citizen_> akik  - let me finish reading these two articles i feel as if i ask any more basic questions i wills tart to embarrass myself
[16:00] <tanstaafl74> teward: that did the trick. Thanks much.
[16:00] <teward> tanstaafl74: you're welcome
[16:01] <citizen_> akik: so /24 is basically 192.0.0.0-223.255.255.255 with out typing each out?
[16:02] <akik> citizen_: no it's just 256 addresses for hosts
[16:02] <Eldunar> Hello, i received a usb drive, but its kinda broken. There is no partition table and in lsblk there is only: "sdb      8:16   1  14,6G  0 disk" but i can not create new partition table in gparted. IT says that there is input/output error. Any ideas?
[16:02] <akik> one for the network and one for the broadcast
[16:03] <akik> citizen_: the page you were linked to is the old way. read the cidr page that is linked from that page
[16:04] <superfirelord42> sorry, i must have followed some old links :P
[16:04] <akik> citizen_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing
[16:04] <citizen_> okay so to find out the ip i need to block i type nmap li1309-23.members.linone.com i take that i address and sudo ufw deny from (found address)/24
[16:04] <dean_>  I have a problem with my keyboard. wireless keyboard works fine and the laptop keyboard works fine on windows but the laptop keyboard is glitchy on linux. Not just ubuntu. Have tested arch and debian. The shift key works on and off and the ctrl key clicks by itself sometimes.
[16:04] <citizen_> reading that now akik thanks
[16:05] <citizen_> dean - i seen a fix for something like that in lubuntu where it would do that with numlock i will try to find the addy for you
[16:07] <Redbeardt> Hey uh, what's a decent media player for Ubuntu these days? The threads I'm finding are almost 10 years old.
[16:07] <dummy9> when i have something like firefox & spotify running my hdd light is constantly lit & system is slow?
[16:07] <Redbeardt> People seem to tout Amarok but that needs KDE
[16:07] <citizen_> redbeardt - vlc
[16:07] <akik> Redbeardt: vlc
[16:07] <akik> :)
[16:08] <citizen_> dummy9 htop whats top three processess
[16:08] <Redbeardt> Just VLC eh haha alright
[16:08] <citizen_> yep sudo apt-get install vlc
[16:08] <dummy9> what's htop
[16:09] <citizen_> htop is a CLI system monitor i think
[16:09] <dummy9> brb
[16:09] <citizen_> so you would launch a terminal and type 'htop' hit enter
[16:10] <derp_commander> what will happen if I dd a disk image consisting of multiple partitions and an MBR onto a partition of another drive?
[16:11] <citizen_> derp_commander- sounds like you would end up taking a few asprin to help with the headache
[16:11] <dean_> citizen: Thanks dude. Think I fixed it in the weirdest way. I ran "xev" as someone suggested on launchpad. It just stopped being dodgey. Hopefully I will not have to run it everytime I start the computer :P
[16:11] <superfirelord42> derp_commander Now I am curious what that would actually do 0.o
[16:11] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: oh joy, that's never a good sign
[16:12] <cliffer> running slpad: can anybody explain why the /etc/ldap/ldap.conf is pretty much empty on ubuntu and how to include schemas?
[16:12] <citizen_> dean - np man
[16:12] <superfirelord42> I sort of wonder if I have a machine to spare to test this….
[16:12] <citizen_> cliffer are you opening as root?
[16:12] <Redbeardt> wow VLC looks so much "cleaner" somehow on Linux
[16:12] <Redbeardt> compared to Windows
[16:12] <citizen_> i even use it on android
[16:13] <cliffer> citizen_: yes, i contains one line which is not comment
[16:13] <derp_commander> citizen_: hm, I might be able to do what I want more properly with kpartx
[16:14] <citizen_> cliffer that was my only guess boss
[16:14] <ThePendulum> 'lo
[16:14] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: try it on a VM maybe?
[16:15] <citizen_> derp - how is that any different from just booting a backup on new drive?
[16:15] <citizen_> not vm but what your trying to do
[16:15] <abhinav--> hello, if I install 16.04 beta 2, how will I upgrade to the final release when it comes out?
[16:15] <dean_> Ah it's back again. This is the most annoying thing ever.
[16:15] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: I assume it wouldn’t be useable really. Maybe you could mount it if you have the offsets for the partition beginnings and endings. I don’t know what happens if your dd exceeds your partition size either. I would hope it would not overflow to the next partition (I assume that it wouldn’t because that sounds like it could be a security flaw if it did)
[16:16] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: I once exploited a security bug caused by a school's dual-boot configuration, since the systems could access each other's partitions
[16:16] <citizen_> dean - you run conky also?
[16:17] <derp_commander> which exposed the system credential files since OSX didn't recognize NTFS's ACLs
[16:17] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: You know what, I’m gonna do it, spinning up a VM now. I hope I have the disk space to try it.
[16:17] <dean_> citizen_ nah i dont have a conky at the moment why?
[16:17] <nedstark> abhinav--, after it's released, you can upgrade like they describe here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[16:18] <BluesKaj> abhinav--, just update, upgrade and full upgrade and you'll endup with latest 16.04 next thurs
[16:18] <citizen_> nedstark you should get that stickied for the topic lol
[16:18] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: well, I'm just gonna use kpartx, since I ain't running experiments on my hard drive
[16:18] <nedstark> i would just stick with beta until 16.04.1 anyhow
[16:18] <nedstark> thats when it's really, really final
[16:19] <abhinav--> BluesKaj, that simple? thanks :)
[16:19] <abhinav--> nedstark, thanks :)
[16:20] <citizen_> dean if you had conky you could add in ${execi 2400 xev}
[16:20] <citizen_> then it would just keep running that every time before it was needed
[16:21] <citizen_> a redneck ductape and bailing wire fix i know but should hurt any system resources
[16:22] <andywork> are daily builds available as torrents?
[16:36] <kitty_kogome> leaving bye
[16:44] <Autistic> Hi
[16:48] <Autistic> Ugggh
[16:48] <Autistic> Helppp
[16:48] <krytarik> !halp
[16:48] <auronandace> Autistic: difficult for anyone to help unless you explain the problem
[16:53] <superfirelord42> Btw, if anyone was curious, derp_commander’s situation he proposed works exactly like you would expect.
[16:56] <akik> superfirelord42: did you expose one partition to your vm which in turn contained other partitions and a mbr in the beginning?
[16:57] <superfirelord42> I created a second 100MB drive with 1 ext3 partition on it and then dd’d it to a 47MB partition and a 200MB partition. The 47MB ran out of space (as I hoped). The 200 won’t mount. I’m trying to guess the superblock location offset now
[16:58] <jayjo> I have 14.04 and a bluetooth mouse that is sooo sensitive even at the lowest seting. Is there a fix for this?
[16:58] <hep7> hello ppl
[17:01] <hep7> have this problem, ubuntu keeps showing hidden files, can anyone tell why?
[17:01] <ouroumov> hep7: you must have hit CTRL + H in nautilus
[17:01] <ouroumov> If you do it again, you'll toogle that behavior
[17:01] <Industrial> Hi.
[17:02] <Industrial> I installed Ubuntu 15.10 on HDD
[17:02] <Industrial> I now have a SSD and I can boot from that with UEFI.
[17:02] <superfirelord42> akik: AHHA! I got it! sudo fdisk -lu /dev/sda3 let me scan for the partition boundries and then I used a sudo losetup -o 1048576 /dev/loop0 /dev/sda3
[17:02] <Industrial> What is the best way to move the Ubuntu install over from HDD to SSD ?
[17:02] <superfirelord42> I can now fsck it and mount it!
[17:03] <hep7> ouroumov: thanks.
[17:03] <superfirelord42> I have no idea why I would use this, but it amuzes me greatly
[17:03] <Industrial> Can I just reinstall Ubuntu on SSH, boot from that, copy the old home dir from HDD and overwrite it on the SSD?
[17:03] <Industrial> s/SSH/SSD/
[17:03] <compdoc> Industrial, clonezilla is great, but how much bigger is the hdd than the ssd?
[17:04] <Industrial> The HDD is 1TB, the SSH is 128GB
[17:04] <Industrial> SSD, sigh
[17:05] <Industrial> Granted everything on the HDD stays there, if I install another Ubuntu on SSH and copy over, will I break anything by copying over my homedir?
[17:06] <compdoc> use clonezilla, and then expand the paritions with gparted
[17:06] <compdoc> or install from scratch
[17:06] <Industrial> k
[17:16] <citizen_> sudo ufw deny from 45.79.210.23/24 - to block all possible options
[17:16] <citizen_> ?
[17:18] <superfirelord42> citizen_: yes I believe
[17:18] <citizen_> thanks
[17:19] <citizen_> should i run that as a CLI or add it as a custom rule via gufw?
[17:20] <superfirelord42> Up to you, I am out of date in that regard.
[17:21] <hep7> it didn't help
[17:22] <citizen_> hepatitis - what didnt help
[17:22] <hep7> can anyone tell why it keeps showing hidden files?
[17:23] <citizen_> do you have that option check on your file broweser
[17:23] <citizen_> is that option enabled in your .desktop
[17:24] <citizen_> brb rebooting
[17:25] <hep7> well i know how to to check/uncheck that option
[17:25] <mahesh> hi guys..i have small doubt please dont think foolish..normally people every time use sudo to get and install something to have root permissions,instead of typing password everytime,why cant we in root everytime??someone said we should nt be in root all the time..please guys clarify me
[17:27] <akik> mahesh: you can accomplish that with "sudo -i"
[17:27] <mahesh> akik :yes normally i will use sudo -i only to get in to root
[17:27] <superfirelord42> mahesh: Are you asking why we should not from a security/safety/design standpoint?
[17:28] <hep7> no one?
[17:28] <mahesh> superfirelord42 : i dont know much about am a newbie ..what is security/safety/design standpoint?
[17:29] <akik> mahesh: ubuntu has chosen to do it that way
[17:29] <mahesh> superfirelord42 : why we should not be in root ,once we are in normal user ,we will use sudo -i or something to get in root ,but my doubt is can we be in root all time?
[17:30] <heebiejeebies> it makes it harder to totally screw up your system accidentally under a normal user account
[17:30] <superfirelord42> mahesh: One reason possibly (and people may argue on this), is if you run everything in root, if something gets exploited, it will have access to everything. Example: (not saying its prone to hacking etc) firefox
[17:30] <superfirelord42> You wouldn’t want to run it as root
[17:30] <heebiejeebies> if you have to type "sudo", you have to really mean what you're about to type :P
[17:30] <mahesh> instead of using sudo apt-get install etc  ,if we are in root no need to type password everytime right?
[17:30] <superfirelord42> Also it helps prevent you accidently rm -rf / (done it before accidently while in root)
[17:30] <heebiejeebies> @mahesh correct.
[17:31] <\ni> hep7 are you using nautilus? ctrl+h to toggle hidden files visibility
[17:32] <mahesh> heebie : but if we are aware of what we are doing ,no problem right even if we are on root everytime?
[17:32] <hep7> nautilus is a dir/explorer?
[17:32] <\ni> yes
[17:32] <heebiejeebies> @mahesh any software you run as root will have full powers to destroy your system
[17:32] <dean_> I've been having a keyboard issue for days now. My ctrl key presses by itself and the shift key releases by itself. Its not hardware. windows works fine. can anyone help?
[17:32] <hep7> \ni: what is difference if i uncheck from the menu?
[17:32] <mahesh> super : yes i agree with rm -rf ..but any other particular reason?
[17:34] <heebiejeebies> @mahesh if you accidentally run malicous code as a normal user, damage is somewhat limited. If you accidentally run malicious code as root, it could be really really bad
[17:34] <superfirelord42> mahesh: It helps prevent applications that can be exploited or can cause damage from having full access.
[17:34] <mahesh> heebie : suppose as example we are installing virtual box and chrome and vlc etc etc files ,,so instead of typing sudo apt-get install ,why can't i be in root directly? will it distroy my system?
[17:34] <hep7> \ni: every time i open it it shows hidden files
[17:34] <\ni> hep7 I'm not sure
[17:34] <hep7> \ni: i can see the shortcut is ctrl+h
[17:34] <mahesh> even we are using sudo right for that also ,but it would nt be a problem?
[17:34] <superfirelord42> mahesh: its really more from a design/safety/security reason.
[17:34] <heebiejeebies> @mahesh "sudo" command = "run as root". It does the same thing
[17:34] <\ni> hep7, for me it remembers my last choice
[17:35] <hep7> \ni: yes it is not remembering it
[17:35] <hep7> \ni: mine is really buggy
[17:35] <dean_> There's no danger in becoming root if you are doing so to perform administration tasks and exit when finished. but it will mess up the permissions of some files if you do normal tasks under root.
[17:35] <mahesh> so you people also  agree that it's better to not be on root always?
[17:35] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: in case you were curious, experiemental results are in.
[17:35] <dean_> Like if you download a movie under root the file will be owned by root.
[17:36] <hep7> i think every update has some surprise with bugs
[17:36] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: so, lets hear 'em!
[17:36] <superfirelord42> mahesh: I am sometimes always root, but I play with virtual machines that I delete in very small amounts of time and some embedded systems. Its still not always great to do
[17:36] <dean_> mahesh You are better off to use sudo where possible. dont't actually become root.
[17:36] <dean_> I've been having a keyboard issue for days now. My ctrl key presses by itself and the shift key releases by itself. Its not hardware. windows works fine. can anyone help?
[17:37] <derp_commander> dean_: though there are some interesting edge cases, Kali for instance
[17:37] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: I did a double test earlier. It won’t overflow the partition size. So if your destination is too small, your gonna have a bad time.
[17:37] <heebiejeebies> @dean_ what do you mean by your "shift key releases by itself"?
[17:37] <Oflor> Hey, I am trying to install Ubuntu on my x86 transformer tablet, but I can't get wifi running.
[17:38] <hep7> anyone else?
[17:38] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: ok, but what happens in general when you try to dd a disk image onto a *correctly sized* partition?
[17:38] <heebiejeebies> @dean_ like, you type and get a few uppercase, but then all lowercase characters while you're physically still holding the shift key down?
[17:38] <Oflor> It's working in win10, but it's not listed in lspci and lsusb
[17:38] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: if its bigger, of course it won’t mount, but I ran fdisk -lu /dev/sda3 and then I did sudo losetup -o 1048576 /dev/loop0 /dev/sda3 && fsck /dev/loop0
[17:38] <hep7> what major bugs 16.04 has?
[17:38] <dean_> heebiejeebies Exactly! It's so annoying. I'm a programmer and it's driving me crazy
[17:38] <superfirelord42> fsck found ext3 fs perfectly
[17:38] <Oflor> The tablet is Asus T100HA and the wifi module is some of broadcomm's
[17:39] <dean_> And every now and then ctrl presses itself and depending on the key i press something mad might happen
[17:39] <mahesh> i installed qemu on my ubuntu ..any one can tell me command to get debian jessie on other terminal
[17:39] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: the partitions can be mounted using fdisk to find the start blocks. That being said, I don’t know why anyone would ever do this intentionally to themselves :)
[17:39] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: so it found the partition even though it's nested like that?
[17:39] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: either on accident, or by masochism
[17:40] <dean_> derp_commander Kali is based off debian. Debian suggests having a root user and no user with sudo rights. Ubuntu suggests the opposite. Different views on security I guess
[17:40] <derp_commander> dean_: not different views, different purposes
[17:40] <superfirelord42> Yes, because fdisk doesn’t care that /dev/sda3 is a partition rather than being like /usr/sda3.img, to it, its both a file. It reads it as such.
[17:40] <derp_commander> Kali isn't meant to be a general purpose distro, and you'd be crazy to try to use it as one
[17:41] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: so I would say it found the partition boundries/starts by design. It worked (mostly) as intended
[17:41] <akik> superfirelord42: it's better to learn how to do it in case you need it one day :)
[17:41] <dean_> derp_commander. I would say that debian and ubuntu provide the same purpose.
[17:41] <heebiejeebies> @dean_ wired or wireless keyboard?
[17:41] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: what if that image contained multiple filesystem types?
[17:41] <superfirelord42> akik: true
[17:42] <derp_commander> dean_: Kali is a special-purpose derivative of Debian, not Debian proper
[17:42] <dean_> heebiejeebies: laptop keyboard. I have a wireless keyboard also but that works fine.The laptop keyboard works fine on windows
[17:42] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: I assume your loop would be larger than your FS so you do risk overwriting your other partitions if you try to dd of=/dev/loop0, but then you are writing to an image of an image of an image or something.
[17:42] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: but you could create a loop mount for each offset partition on the device and mount it.
[17:42] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: diskception!
[17:43] <akik> :)
[17:43] <superfirelord42> That being said, the same commands I got it to work with would work on the image directly to mount it as a loop.
[17:44] <superfirelord42> One of the beautiful things about treating everything like files. :P
[17:44] <dean_> derp_commander: yup i understand that. I used kali for a long time. Cool distro. But it follows the same sudo / root principle as debian. I was just trying to say that debian and ubuntu have contrasting views on the best way to perform admin tasks
[17:45] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: indeed
[17:45] <derp_commander> dean_: strictly speaking, all sudo does is elevate a given process to root via setuid
[17:45] <derp_commander> *seteuid
[17:45] <derp_commander> I think, one of those two
[17:46] <dean_> derp_commander: Yeah I know but everyone was discussing this and I was trying to make small talk while trying to get my keyboard fixed :P
[17:47]  * derp_commander hi-fives newjersey
[17:47] <superfirelord42> dean_: then again, I always just apt-get install sudo
[17:47]  * newjersey high five derp_commander 
[17:47] <alfatau> hello all. I'm looking for some offline file organization software that does not rely on a db. I found tagspaces quite similar to what was in my mind, however it relies on renamed filenames and I don't like it. Isn't there some standard linux tool to add/modify tags on files? Also, I'm using btrfs filesystem now, and I wonder why it did not introdu
[17:47] <alfatau> ced some attributes like tags to add to files, to be able to perform semantic searches...
[17:47] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: I always use aptitude for things, since apt-get's wonderful dependency resolution trashed one of my systems
[17:47] <dean_> superfirelord42: That would mean you were already root....
[17:48] <superfirelord42> dean_: true, but I could have gotten there via su and then lock the root account behind me later via sudo
[17:49] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: true, but old habits….
[17:49] <dean_> die hard?
[17:49] <superfirelord42> yepper
[17:49] <dean_> Mr robot reference?
[17:49] <derp_commander> superfirelord42: old habits die very quickly in the face of adverse stimuli
[17:50] <superfirelord42> derp_commander: likely
[17:50] <sunnyredaardvark> How do I interpret the output of `sensors` from package `lm-sensors`. Why are there three cpu temps on a dual core cpu? One is part of acpi, but what it is? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15877850/
[17:50] <derp_commander> sunnyredaardvark: most computers have an array of temperature sensors
[17:51] <derp_commander> looks pretty straightforward in your case. one sensor for each core, and one more for the PCI adapter
[17:52] <derp_commander> mine has additional ones on the GPU, motherboard, hard drive, intake port, and fan exhaust
[17:53] <sunnyredaardvark> derp_commander: What is the one called 'cpu temperature' in ACPI
[17:54] <derp_commander> sunnyredaardvark: ah didn't see that. probably another one situated on the CPU's housing
[18:10] <cliffer> where do i config openldap in ubuntu? i removed /etc/ldap/ldap.conf and /usr/share/sldapd/sldap.conf but apparently the removal has no effect
[18:15] <artisanIndia> I want to give access of my server to my brother with a new account I want him to have complete ownership on his folder without interfering other files he should also not be able to see my files nothing just the folder assigned to him
[18:18] <Bashing-om> artisanIndia: Make a group and add your brother to that group : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions .
[18:19] <artisanIndia> is chroot an option Bashing-om
[18:19] <artisanIndia> ?
[18:19] <Bashing-om> artisanIndia: You will have better control at the group level .
[18:19] <artisanIndia> ok going through the article
[18:19] <cliffer> artisanIndia: why does a normal user not work?
[18:20] <artisanIndia> I want him to be a sudoer on his folder only
[18:20] <cliffer> artisanIndia: this doesnt make sense to me, pls explain
[18:21] <artisanIndia> I want a account on my server which will host files of my brother to make changes on his files etc he definitely need sudo permission but I dont want him to list or change my files
[18:21] <Bashing-om> artisanIndia: A user has complete control in "his" home directory - only !
[18:22] <artisanIndia> this question on SO explains clearlly http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/208960/how-to-restrict-a-user-to-one-folder-and-not-allow-them-to-move-out-his-folder
[18:22] <cliffer> artisanIndia: why does he need sudo (root) if he only has access to his files?
[18:23] <artisanIndia> if I login to this newly created account using su --login username and I try to do mkdir it says permission denied
[18:23] <artisanIndia> he should have read/write access to his files
[18:23] <cliffer> so you did su --login brother; mkdir someDir?
[18:24] <artisanIndia> yes
[18:24] <artisanIndia> but I got permission denied issue
[18:24] <cliffer> what about su --login brother; cd; mkdir someDir?
[18:25] <hep7> who wants to try an android app?!
[18:26] <artisanIndia> looks like it is working how about rescricting him to view no files but his folder
[18:26] <k1l_> hep7: better ask in #android
[18:26] <Bashing-om> artisanIndia: " i solved my problem by this way : " looks good to me as as advised in the uppers .
[18:26] <cliffer> do you know why it is working now?
[18:26] <hep7> k1l_: too many paranoids there
[18:26] <artisanIndia> Bashing-om: the article you gave me is way too long
[18:26] <cliffer> artisanIndia: do you know why mkdir it is working now?
[18:27] <artisanIndia> let me see if I can make it work out
[18:27] <k1l_> hep7: well its offtopic here. better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic since this is technical ubuntu support only
[18:27] <hep7> k1l_: right
[18:27] <Bashing-om> artisanIndia: Reading is good ... you have a long life .
[18:27] <hep7> k1l_: i am just asking all
[18:27] <cliffer> Bashing-om: n1 answer :)
[18:27] <artisanIndia> yes I know because I was trying to make a directory in the new-user/some-folder
[18:27] <artisanIndia> whose owner is root
[18:29] <artisanIndia> cliffer: ^
[18:29] <cliffer> i dont think so
[18:30] <hep7> k1l_: btw my os is really buggy
[18:31] <cliffer> lets assume your are root, current dir /home/root/. after login as your brother, you are brother, current dir /home/root/. mkdir now creates a folder in /home/root/ (which is denied for your brother). if you change first to your brothers home dir (with cd) and mkdir then, it works
[18:31] <cliffer> artisanIndia: ^^
[18:31] <Smashcat> Hi, anyone know why Ubuntu can't see my second GPU? I have 2 x GTX680's, using the Nvidia drivers (downloaded from the Nvidia site). It can only see 1 card though. lspci shows both cards. Disabled the Nouvelle driver.
[18:31] <artisanIndia> yes it does work cliffer
[18:32] <cliffer> regarding openldap: on ubuntu, apparently the /etc/ldap/slap.d/ dir is used for schemas, not the config file. is there any way of automatically converting the schemas from /etc/ldap/schemas/ to slad.d dir?
[18:32] <artisanIndia> but by logging into my root user I created a directory which ultimately belongs to user root so after logging to my brother I was not able to create a directory inside that directory which was created by user root
[18:33] <artisanIndia> after changing the ownership of /my-brother/the-directory I am able to create directories inside
[18:33] <cliffer> artisanIndia: thats correct
[18:33] <cliffer> so what is your question?
[18:33] <artisanIndia> one problem is solved
[18:34] <maddawg2> soooo turns out aliens are real
[18:34] <artisanIndia> the second is if my brother logs into my server with his credentials I dont want him to see my files he should be limited to his folder only
[18:34] <artisanIndia> you found them maddawg2
[18:34] <artisanIndia> ?
[18:34] <maddawg2> yep
[18:35] <k1l_> !ot | maddawg2
[18:35] <alkisg> artisanIndia: how is your brother logging in to your server? via ssh? or sftp? or a graphical login manager?
[18:35] <maddawg2> neighbor just got arrested by immigration
[18:35] <maddawg2> crazy
[18:35] <artisanIndia> I havent tried yet logging into his account alkisg let me check now and get back
[18:36] <alkisg> artisanIndia: no I mean how are you planning for him to use your server
[18:36] <artisanIndia> via ssh alkisg
[18:36] <cliffer> artisanIndia: normally, he shouldnt be able to change to your home dir
[18:36] <cliffer> try to cd /home/your_user as your brother
[18:37] <alkisg> artisanIndia: then he'll need an operating system, he'll need to see /usr, /bin and the other folders. So he can't only be seeing his own home folder. You can prevent him from seeing your own folder, and you can use a chroot to setup an operating system just for him.
[18:38] <artisanIndia> yes you are right I just tried creating a file by logging into the serve rusing his account and that account is not able to create or delete a file because the ownership of those files are root
[18:38] <artisanIndia> perfect
[18:38] <artisanIndia> thanks guys
[18:39] <artisanIndia> thanks cliffer alkisg and Bashing-om
[18:44] <jasonmerc> hello
[18:44] <Erix> hi
[18:45] <jasonmerc> ive got a bit of a battery issue with my 15.10 install, not quite sure how to fix it
[18:45] <Bashing-om> artisanIndia: :) .. All is well that ends well .
[18:45] <Erix> mint questions welcome here?
[18:45] <Bashing-om> !mint | Erix
[18:46] <jasonmerc> so for some reason Ubuntu tell sme my battery is critically low when it in fact is not, and will suspend my PC, forcing me to turn it off and on again
[18:46] <jasonmerc> my laptop is charging, and the battery appliet thing tells me it is at 1%
[18:46] <jasonmerc> when going into the power statistics, that tells me it is 85%
[18:47] <jasonmerc> how do I get these in sync?
[18:48] <blackdr4g0n-5128> ciao !list
[18:48] <blackdr4g0n-5128> ciao
[18:48] <blackdr4g0n-5128> !list
[18:49] <yaron777> hey
[18:59] <rvanlaar> I'm trying the current ubuntu 16.04 daily and I can't boot into a graphical mode to install ubuntu.
[18:59] <k1l_> !16.04
[19:00] <DJones> rvanlaar: Probably worth asking in #ubuntu+1
[19:00] <DJones> Thats the main support channel for development releases at the moment
[19:00] <rvanlaar> DJones, thanks, I will
[19:04] <hamsterpower> Why are there 3 main starting branch in this linux history tree? (Debian, slackware, redhat) Did Linus Benedict Torvalds allow other people to start developing from this point?
[19:05] <hamsterpower> http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/uploads/12.10/gldt1210.png
[19:05] <k1l_> hamsterpower: #linux for that talk
[19:06] <dongforce> hello
[19:06] <Smashcat> Anyone here got Steam working with Ubuntu 14.10 (64 bit)?
[19:07] <k1l_> Smashcat: 14.10?
[19:07] <Bassem> i dont know how to update firefox flshplayer plugin im using ubutnu 14.04
[19:07] <dongforce> does anyone wish to join dong force
[19:08] <Smashcat> k1l_: I mean 14.04
[19:09] <OhYeahBaby> how can i find out about all these extras that i can install such as basic ubuntu server?
[19:11] <k1l_> Smashcat: so what is the exact issue
[19:11] <OhYeahBaby> its ok i found out ;)
[19:13] <Smashcat> k1l_: Steam doesn't launch after install. Get libGL errors like: "libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast"
[19:13] <SeTH_1> #deepwebbr
[19:13] <Smashcat> k1l_: Looked up other hacks to get it working, but they don't apply to my install (I don't have the files they refer to in some of the hacks)
[19:13] <SeTH_1> join #deepweb
[19:14] <Fuchs> SeTH_1: /join
[19:14] <SeTH_1> ok, tks
[19:14] <SeTH_1> fuchs is a brazilian
[19:14] <Fuchs> highly unlikely
[19:16] <Smashcat> Hmm, pretty sure it's the dual GPU setup - looks like Ubuntu is pretty unstable using 2 graphics card with 5 monitors. Apps keep crashing - where it's 100% stable under Win10
[19:19] <Guest96409> anyone installs any server software on smartphone/mobile?
[19:19] <rindolf> Smashcat: it may not be a general problem.
[19:19] <rindolf> Guest96409: on Ubuntu-based phones?
[19:20] <Guest96409> on any smartphone rindolf i have not came across any ubunutu based phone; does it exist?
[19:20] <rindolf> Guest96409: this is #ubuntu
[19:20] <k1l_> Guest96409: this channel is technical ubuntu support only
[19:21] <Smashcat> rindolf: It seems like any GLX app crashes, or locks up. This is a brand new PC, except for the 2 GTX680's - z170 MB, M.2 drive, 64GB DDR4 etc etc. No probs with Win, but unstable under Ubuntu when I use both GPUs. They're not getting hot either, according to the nvidia-settings app
[19:22] <rindolf> Smashcat: ah, nvidia.
[19:23] <Smashcat> rindolf: I never use AMD GPUs - find them terrible under Windows.
[19:23] <Fuchs> don't worry, they are also terrible in Linux
[19:23] <Fuchs> anyway, what we'd need is a backtrace from one of the applications crashing
[19:23] <Fuchs> so we'd have a rough idea where it happens
[19:24] <Fuchs> might be some common library. However, nvidia being the culprit is unlikely unless all of them use OpenGL in a way or the other
[19:24] <rindolf> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon card on my laptop and it works fine and I also had a Radeon HD 2600 or something on my old P4 machine.
[19:24] <athend> Smashcat: there was a guy on #linux who figured out the exact same error today, but he was on Debian 8.3.
[19:24] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Yep it's all apps that use OpenGL I believe
[19:24] <rindolf> I used the open source drivers.
[19:25] <Fuchs> Smashcat: such as?  And: do you get apport or the likes popping up after a crash? That would give a backtrace
[19:25] <Smashcat> rindolf: Yeah, I need the acceleration from the latest drivers though. Wanted to test out Steam on Linux
[19:25] <ubuntu086> Hello, anyone know about setting up a .cshrc in ubuntu home directory? Trying to follow toonbooms instructions on doing a linux install. http://docs.toonboom.com/help/harmony-12-2/advanced-server/installation/linux/install-new-system.html#install_linux_2031713030_1096669
[19:25] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Chromium when viewing WebGL pages
[19:25] <ubuntu086> they said itll work on ubuntu too with a little extra work.
[19:26] <Smashcat> Also GLXGears - just locks up
[19:26] <rindolf> ubuntu086: hi, did you install tcsh?
[19:26] <rindolf> ubuntu086: why do they require tcsh anyway?
[19:26] <Fuchs> Smashcat: can you create an nvidia bug report with sudo nvidia-bug-report.sh, uncompress it and put it in a pastebin?
[19:27] <mike_papa> How do I unlock luks partition with graphical passphrase prompt? GUI version of udisksctl unlock
[19:27] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Yep, does that work only after an app crash?
[19:28] <Fuchs> Smashcat: should work in general to get an idea of your setup
[19:28] <Fuchs> because at least glxgears should not die
[19:29] <Smashcat> Fuchs: This is what I get from Chromium after it crashes on a WebGL page, after about 10 seconds usually: [4971:4971:0416/202646:ERROR:logging.h(813)] Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.DBus.ObjectManager.GetManagedObjects: object_path= /: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetManagedObjects" with signature "" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.ObjectManager" doesn't exist
[19:29] <Fuchs> Smashcat: should not be related. Can I see the nvidia bug report generated file?
[19:30] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Yep, doing it now...
[19:31] <snfgf> What's the default logging daemon?
[19:32] <derp_commander> snfgf: systemd
[19:32] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Ah it's too big for Pastebin
[19:33] <Fuchs> try a different one :)   (you did uncompress it so it is plain text, yes?)
[19:33] <derp_commander> Smashcat: put it into a txt file and upload it to filebin or catbox
[19:33] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Here's a download link: http://expirebox.com/download/bed07a0fbacd43739c48ccd7651291e8.html
[19:34] <snfgf> derp_commander: Thanks. So I don't need syslogd? Or does systemd use syslogd?
[19:34] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Yep it's uncompressed
[19:34] <derp_commander> snfgf: I think syslogd is now part of systemd
[19:35] <derp_commander> !syslogd
[19:35] <Fuchs> Smashcat: okay, interesting. First of all: you seem to be using Xinerama, I recommend you don't. See if you can get the screens to work without it, in nvidia settings
[19:35] <Fuchs> Smashcat: in addition to that, for odd reasons your gamepad seem to be triggering a crash, I'd report that
[19:35] <Foxfinity> gah sorry chrashed yes back to the toonboom thing I've installed tcsh
[19:36] <Smashcat> Fuchs: I can't access the top 2 displays without Xinerama - as they're on the second GPU.
[19:36] <Foxfinity> crashed*
[19:36] <Smashcat> Fuchs: I don't have a gamepad connected :)
[19:36] <derp_commander> wooo-oooo-ooo
[19:37] <Smashcat> Fuchs: I might just disable the second GPU again though. It seemed ok before I enabled it and Xinerama
[19:37] <Fuchs> Smashcat: seems to be the keyboard, then
[19:37] <Fuchs> Smashcat: yeah, the report warns you of instability if you enable xinerama and composite (which is needed by most things today)
[19:37] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Yes, it's a gaming keyboard (Logitech G910)
[19:37] <Fuchs> Smashcat: I think it should be possible without xinerama though, hang on
[19:38] <Smashcat> Fuchs: I can move the mouse into the top screens without xinerama, but cannot move or open any windows in them, so they're kind of useless :)
[19:38] <Fuchs> Smashcat: have you tried mosaic?
[19:38] <Smashcat> Nope, just have the default DM here
[19:38] <Fuchs> http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3580/~/how-to-configure-mosaic-on-linux  << this thing
[19:38] <derp_commander> Fuchs: that's a browser ain't it?
[19:38] <Fuchs> it's an nvidia technologie, not a display manager or the likes
[19:39] <Fuchs> Smashcat: have a go with that, because Xinerama should be dead and buried
[19:40] <Smashcat> Fuchs: Ok thanks, looks like this will be a 2 cup of coffee job :)
[19:40] <derp_commander> Fuchs: so what should replace it?
[19:40] <Fuchs> probably. Doesn't look too complicated though, the article is lenghty due to various configurations (single GPU, dual GPU, dual GPU with SLI etc.)
[19:40] <Fuchs> derp_commander: xrandr mostly, for odd edge cases: see above, for nvidia mosaic does
[19:40] <Foxfinity> http://docs.toonboom.com/help/harmony-12-2/advanced-server/installation/linux/install-new-system.html#install_linux_2031713030_1096669 but yeah  I need to setup .cshrc on the home directory. I don't any experience with .cshrc files or what they should look like.
[19:42] <Jordan_U> Foxfinity: Why are you using tcsh?
[19:42] <derp_commander> Fuchs: RandR seems to have it's own problems
[19:42] <Fuchs> the csh should create it when ran the first time, Foxfinity
[19:42] <Fuchs> so check if it is really needed to create one
[19:42] <Fuchs> derp_commander: such as?
[19:43] <Foxfinity> well it's part of the setup toonboom install. .cshrc needs to launch toonboom according to the docs.
[19:43] <Foxfinity> the docs are for centos but the tech said it would work on ubuntu too.
[19:43] <Fuchs> if they need anything specific in that cshrc, I'd ask them
[19:44] <derp_commander> Fuchs: might not apply to the current version, but there at least used to be some limitations on it
[19:44] <Fuchs> otherwise I'd just go with a default, which should be created on first use
[19:44] <Fuchs> derp_commander: such as?
[19:45] <k1l_> Foxfinity: the standard shell from ubuntu is bash
[19:46] <derp_commander> RandR 1.2 permits only one virtual screen per display device. It is not possible to assign each monitor on a device to a different screen (sometimes called https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaphod_Beeblebrox#Cultural_references), or to combine monitors from multiple devices into a single screen.[4] One practical limiting effect of this is that it is not possible to run a different
[19:46] <Fuchs> yes, but that odd software requires csh, for whatever odd reason
[19:46] <derp_commander> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager on each monitor, since window managers are limited to one per screen. Some of these specific issues are resolved in RandR 1.3.[5]
[19:46] <Fuchs> derp_commander: you know how old even RandR 1.3 is, yes?
[19:46] <Foxfinity> gotcha good call on it being there already
[19:46] <Fuchs> derp_commander: so a kind request: unless you have half an idea of what you are talking about, stay out of it.
[19:46] <derp_commander> Fuchs: no, and it says only some of them were address
[19:47] <derp_commander> k
[19:47] <Foxfinity> how would you launch a program in it?
[19:47] <Fuchs> Foxfinity: as in every other shell: you specify the program to start, if it is not in $PATH: with the full path
[19:47] <Foxfinity> that easy eh?
[19:48] <Fuchs> Foxfinity: I wouldn't recommend starting anything directly from a (login)shellrc, but if, then the company / person offering said software should have it documented
[19:51] <Foxfinity> alrighty, hey thanks for all your help fuchs
[19:51] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[20:02] <Bassem> can some one help me update flshplayer plugin for firefox
[20:03] <FMan> what problem are you having?
[20:04] <citizen_> i need to block all outgoing https using ufw from cli
[20:04] <Bsims> citizen_: block outgoing port 80 done
[20:04] <citizen_> 45.79.210.23/24
[20:04] <citizen_> 80 is http correct?
[20:05] <Bsims> yes
[20:05] <citizen_> and 443 is https?
[20:05] <FMan> yup
[20:05] <citizen_> okay so i blocked all outgoing 443
[20:05] <Bsims> http://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xhtml
[20:06] <rindolf> citizen_: you can serve HTTPS on different ports.
[20:06] <citizen_> still showing a connection to li1309-23.members.linode.com
[20:06] <citizen_> ohhh
[20:06] <citizen_> so it would be easyier to block all outbound connections to that address
[20:06] <citizen_> ?
[20:07] <citizen_> lol you guys see how i spelt easier there
[20:08] <zz> wish wings
[20:09] <citizen_> sudo ufw deny from 45.79.210.23/24
[20:09] <citizen_> still aint stopping it
[20:10] <FMan> how do you have malware on Linux? I have learned to read very broken language on IRC :) but I noticed how you spelt "spelt" ;)
[20:11] <Bsims> FMan: apt-get install gnome3?
[20:11] <citizen_> i think its something to do with plex
[20:12] <citizen_> wait why are you asking if its malware like a rootkit already on a fresh install?
[20:12] <citizen_> have to come from my router then wouldnt it
[20:13] <FMan> I have no idea what you have... did you try to find the source of the traffic going to there?
[20:13] <citizen_> how would i do that
[20:13] <citizen_> wireshark?
[20:16] <FMan> I would probably start by shutting down programs and seeing if it continues, then rebooting
[20:17] <FMan> also the process list might show something, but probably not
[20:28] <gatto> hi
[20:30] <citizen_> hey
[20:43] <spenk> bachata
[20:55] <mike_papa> I'd like to run script on logout. Either from lightdm, or tty. Is there any single place for that? .bash_logout will work on bash only, and cleanup-script in lightdm.conf will work on lightdm logout only.
[20:57] <_Diskord> how can i upgrade python from 3.4.3 to 3.5 on ubuntu 14.04 using apt-get?
[21:05] <janel> hello
[21:06] <Apachez> whats the recommended way today with ubuntu 15.10 if I want the live cd iso to be extracted onto a usb drive and still be used as a "live cd" (that is readonly mode)?
[21:06] <janel> ok
[21:08] <k1l_> Apachez: you mean making it a regular live-usb?
[21:08] <k1l_> Apachez: what os do you use?
[21:12] <anthony> www
[21:19] <robin_debspace> Hi! I'd like to install Ubuntu 15.10 on my MacBook. I've already got a bootable USB, booted my MacBook from that and noticed that the live environment seems to have all the required drivers (WiFi, graphics, etc). Now if I want to actually install this, do I only need to shrink my system partition to create some space, or do I need anything else such as a bootloader?
[21:25] <mekhami> uh
[21:25] <auronandace> !mac | robin_debspace
[21:25] <mekhami> i just installed ubuntu yesterday, and it's started logging me out on a loop
[21:25] <mekhami> my computer also just made a beeping sound that sounded like a flatline
[21:25] <mekhami> from the motherboard
[21:25] <mekhami> beep beep beep beeeeeeeeeeep
[21:25] <mekhami> i'm scard someone hold me
[21:29] <ecolle> Okay
[21:30] <robin_debspace> ubottu : Thanks! I also just found a video on YouTube that explains the steps, seems pretty straightforward! Fingers crossed that it'll actually just work like that :-)
[21:40] <dean_> Hi. I'm having an issue with the keyboard on my HP - Pavilion laptop. The Shift Key seems to release itself at random. So does the alt key. This makes it impossible to alt + tab to switch windows or to write in capitals. On top of that the ctrl key presses itself at random. Which causes me to open new tabs and close documents and stuff.
[21:40] <dean_> I've tried a lot already but if anyone has any suggestions fire ahead :] thanks guys.
[21:40] <dean_> By the way the keyboard works fine under windows so I don't think it's hardware.
[21:44] <Apachez> k1l_: I think I nailed it, Startup Disk Creator... now I just need to find out how to remove that "try or install ubuntu" popup along with selecting correct keyboard layout so make life easier for the user who will be using these "readonly" usb drive
[21:48] <Smashcat> Can anyone tell me how I'm supposed to restart an interface now in 14.04? ifup/ifdown no longer seem to do anything. /etc/init.d/networking stop does nothing either
[21:49] <Bashing-om> Smashcat: Try ' sudo service network-manager restart ' .
[21:50] <flickwitwhore> use su -c "command"
[21:50] <flickwitwhore> sudo is less secure
[21:50] <k1l_> flickwitwhore: what?
[21:50] <flickwitwhore> it is a better security practice not to add users to the sudoers file
[21:51] <k1l_> flickwitwhore: its not.
[21:51] <Smashcat> Thanks that's the one. So the old ifup/ifdown and networking scripts are just redundant now? Wonder why they've left them lying around...
[21:51] <flickwitwhore> using su -c "command" has the same functionality and forces users to know the root password
[21:51] <flickwitwhore> why isnt it?
[21:51] <k1l_> flickwitwhore: this is #ubuntu and ubuntu is build around using sudo
[21:52] <Fuchs> and where root, by default, is passwordless and disabled, so that won't work
[21:52] <k1l_> flickwitwhore: so stop giving bad advice. if you want the ways other distributions run root then see #linux or the other distros support channels
[21:52] <flickwitwhore> my most sincere apologies.
[21:56] <Smashcat> Jesus, adding a new dick to a RAID 5 array takes a while. Been "reshaping" for 13 hours now, and only at 58% :)
[21:56] <Smashcat> s/dick/disk/ :)
[21:58] <eliyaakoub> slt
[21:59] <eliyaakoub> je cherche a reactiver thor svp
[21:59] <squinty> !fr | eliyaakoub
[21:59] <k1l_> eliyaakoub: for french try the #ubuntu-fr channel
[22:04] <LaserAllan> hey guys, If i want to have TS3to autostart, how do i go about doing that?
[22:04] <LaserAllan> So I don't have to run the script all the time
[22:21] <Apachez> so ehm... when using startup disk creator to create your live-cd on a usb drive, how do I preselect the keyboard layout to be swedish instead of default english? That is so the user booting on this usb drive wont have to each and every time go to the upper left and select proper keyboard layout
[22:21] <Apachez> locale=se nor locale=sv in grub.cfg on the usb drive seems to have solved that
[22:27] <Apachez> and locale=sv_SE didnt work either
[22:28] <Apachez> running "locale" in terminal outputs expected data but when pressing swedish chars on the keyboard anything but swedish chars is displayed in terminal...
[22:29] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[22:29] <ubuntu-mate> can anyone help me install ubuntu
[22:30] <Narwhaal> ubuntu-mate: download it, open the file, click install, done
[22:30] <Bashing-om> ubuntu-mate: I am sure someone can. what is the hardware and software environment ?
[22:31] <Narwhaal> do people honestly need to ask for help to install an ease-of-use operating system :/
[22:34] <Bashing-om> Narwhaal: Anxiety does take a toll .
[22:34] <Narwhaal> anxiety ?
[22:34] <Narwhaal> what means
[22:34] <Narwhaal> wait let me google
[22:34] <Narwhaal> oh
[22:35] <Narwhaal> just use it on a spare pc .. it's easy enough
[22:35] <Bashing-om> Once we have done it .. we know there is nothing to it . Just that 1st step. huh ?
[22:38] <Narwhaal> first step is to get in ease of environment
[22:38] <Narwhaal> so VM or cheap PC (like $30 cheap)
[22:40] <ArabicSoap> Hello people, I'm trying to install Ubuntu along side Mac. But the only option I get during the installation is to erase disk and install Ubuntu, is there any other way to install Ubuntu along side Mac OS X?
[22:41] <Bashing-om> !mac | ArabicSoap
[22:41] <raven-noir> ArabicSoap. Do you have Grub
[22:43] <UserUS> does ubuntu preform proprietary drivers during initial fresh install? Specifically 16 beta 2
[22:44] <UserUS> and nvidia driver
[22:45] <raven-noir> I think he should install ubuntu with grub to avoid all troubles then partition the hard drive to make space for mac osx
[22:47] <ArabicSoap> raven-noir: no what is grub?
[23:00] <Bashing-om> !grub | ArabicSoap
[23:08] <skypce> hey guys
[23:08] <skypce> how can i try the snap packages in ubuntu 16.04?
[23:08] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that skypce
[23:08] <m000gle> Could someone please explain how to completely disable the HDMI sound devices on my workstation?  I assume there is a configuration file where HDMI audio can be blacklisted, or something similar, but I'm not sure where to look
[23:09] <bazhang> m000gle, using pavucontrol/padevchooser? what have you tried so far
[23:10] <skypce> hey m000gle disable hda intel audio from bios
[23:10] <skypce> you have integrated audio right?
[23:11] <m000gle> @skypce This is the the DisplayPort/HDMI　a pair of Nvidia GTX760 video cards
[23:11] <m000gle> Integrated udio has already been disabled via BIOS, as I use a USB DAC
[23:15] <m000gle> @bazhang both HDMI/DP audio output options are set to off using pavucontrol
[23:15] <m000gle> @bazhang I am hoping to fully disable them, so that they are not even an option in pavucontrol, or the system audio settings
[23:15] <skypce> m000gle, so try with alsamixer
[23:16] <skypce> hey what append with ubuntu 16.04 bottom launcher, has not intelli hide always appear
[23:16] <Apachez> finally solved it, there is way too many outdated docs out there regarding Ubuntu
[23:17] <Apachez> solution, alter /boot/grub/grub.cfg on the live-cd for Ubuntu so the bootstring also got this:   locale=sv_SE setkmap=se keyboard-configuration/layoutcode=se   now swedish as locale and swedish keyboard will be preselected right after boot when you choose "try ubuntu"
[23:17] <skypce> Apachez, create a gist
[23:18] <skypce> may be someone like you need that answer
[23:19] <Apachez> pfff, they will have to go through that hard path as me digging through outdated and obsolete docs for an hour or two :P
[23:23] <shanemikel> hello everybody
[23:25] <shanemikel> I just switched my monitors over to a DP 1.2 Daisy chain.  I'm using a dual head display, and right now, they're both rotated vertically.  I've been using the vertical orientation for a few days with no problems, but just after I switched over to the daisy chain, I get an error on login "Could not apply stored configuration for monitors".. Once I open the settings menu (without touching anything) the monitors switch to the way I set
[23:25] <shanemikel> them up and everything works
[23:26] <shanemikel> the error window consists of a bunch of messages with "CRT" ni em
[23:26] <shanemikel> and resolutions
[23:36] <derp_commander> done!
[23:38] <neuroprod> slt
[23:38] <derp_commander> slt?
[23:48] <Hathadar> I am trying to change the background color on my terminal.  Google would have me click on edit->profiles in the terminal but such navigation buttons do not exist.
[23:49] <citizen_> its alright guys you aint gotta say hi
[23:50] <Kallis> hi there, looking at moving my windows server over to a linux server and am just going about setting up samba with acl, was just wondering if there was an easy way for me to copy all current user acl's that are in place on the windows server over to the new samba linux box please or do i need to redo all acl for all users on all directories, using ubuntu server 15.10, for now the ubuntu server will just start off for file
[23:50] <Kallis> serving so i will continue using the windows server for ldap and a couple of other bits as i slowly migrate away
[23:51] <Kallis> Hathadar, are you using unity ?
[23:51] <Kallis> Hathadar, if so edit -> profile preferences
[23:56] <shanemikel> I'm back
[23:57] <shanemikel> I was the guy asked the question about dp1.2 daisy chain