| ScottK | It's not really a partisan issue. | 00:00 |
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| mamarley | Yeah, probably not. It is just embarrassing that the senator from my state was instrumental in its creation. We already have a reputation of being backwards enough as it is, and now with the encryption bill and HB-2… | 00:01 |
| mamarley | Luckily, most big tech companies are opposed to both of those things. | 00:01 |
| snele | yofel: sgclark: clivejo: guys update manager systray icon is broken again after newest update | 04:35 |
| snele | it was fixed by yofel in staging | 04:36 |
| snele | but after installing newest updates systray icon is broken again (doesn't refresh/shows updates when there is none) | 04:36 |
| snele | yofel did backport commit from this bug report which fixed the bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347602 | 04:37 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 347602 in Updater "Update Manager systray icon and info still reports pending updates after updates applied" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 04:37 |
| snele | please backport the fix (again) | 04:38 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: I am going to bed... if he did not commit the fix... I will have to look tomorrow. | 04:38 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Or is that muon? | 04:38 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Regardless sleeping. | 04:38 |
| snele | sgclark: this is the commit https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=discover.git&a=commit&h=749f5be5ebc7b56143e9952d085f396f3bd65905 | 04:39 |
| snele | sgclark: good night sweat dreams | 04:39 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: I am on my phone... | 04:39 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Thanks. Will look into this tomorrow | 04:40 |
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| soee | :< http://news.softpedia.com/news/opensuse-tumbleweed-users-get-kde-plasma-5-6-2-linux-kernel-4-5-1-mesa-11-2-0-503056.shtml | 08:20 |
| valorie | well, we just gotta get it all packaged up and ready to backport asap | 08:23 |
| valorie | once our release is shipshape | 08:23 |
| * valorie just build base pbuilder | 08:43 | |
| valorie | and now I can't seem to remember the passphrase for key '/home/valorie/.ssh/id_rsa' | 08:53 |
| valorie | bleah | 08:53 |
| valorie | going to bed | 08:55 |
| sick_rimmit | Good Morning | 09:06 |
| sick_rimmit | Just finished a write up on Kubuntu Party | 09:06 |
| vip | hi | 09:06 |
| sick_rimmit | http://kubuntu.org/news/party-2-in-review/ | 09:06 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: hiho | 09:06 |
| doko | sgclark, clivejo, whover: kcachegrind-converters/amd64 unsatisfiable Depends: php5-cli | 11:02 |
| clivejo | I noticed someone going around changing those too | 11:03 |
| clivejo | trying to move to PHP7 | 11:05 |
| clivejo | doko: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/k/kcachegrind/kcachegrind_15.12.1-0ubuntu2/changelog | 11:06 |
| clivejo | Update to PHP7.0 dependencies (LP: #1544352). | 11:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1544352 in adminer (Ubuntu) "[PHP7] After bootstrapping, these PHP packages can be rebuilt" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1544352 | 11:06 |
| doko | clivejo, looks like you guys overwrite other archive changes ... 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 wouldn't be the first time | 11:07 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Lol. We are in debian git. If we are not given the changes, then guess what? | 11:09 |
| clivejo | The control file clear says our VCS | 11:12 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Yup. | 11:12 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: We are not the ones to blame here. | 11:12 |
| clivejo | @sgclark2 after all the updates, kontact is broken for me this morning :( | 11:13 |
| clivejo | on the plus side, amarok seems to be working | 11:14 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: It is 4am. Not ready to work yet | 11:14 |
| clivejo | I know, just a heads up | 11:14 |
| clivejo | why you up at 4am? | 11:15 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Evidently laptop isn't either. Taking forever to boot | 11:15 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Couldn't sleep. Too stressed out | 11:15 |
| clivejo | mysql 5.7 nightmares? | 11:15 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Seriously considering this to be my last release. | 11:16 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Haha. Among everything else. | 11:16 |
| clivejo | I had a similar nightmare | 11:17 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Like package updates in apparently random repos | 11:17 |
| clivejo | you and phil resigned :( | 11:17 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Philip resigned? | 11:17 |
| clivejo | in my nightmare | 11:17 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Oh! | 11:17 |
| clivejo | noooo not for real | 11:18 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Well I would not vanish. I will fully support my releases | 11:18 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Just weighing my options. Need to sort out my career. | 11:19 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Or lack thereof | 11:19 |
| Mamarok | ScottK: oh, cool, I wasn't aware of that, let me see if that patch went to reviewboard ... | 11:20 |
| clivejo | yeah, packaging dont put food on the table and pay bills | 11:20 |
| soee | +1 do what makes you happy and brings some profit :) | 11:20 |
| clivejo | plus the ay things are right now its stressful! | 11:20 |
| clivejo | way | 11:21 |
| clivejo | can afect health as well :/ | 11:21 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Yup | 11:23 |
| clivejo | anyway, must go make dinner, its family day ! | 11:26 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:38 |
| telegram | <Clifford>: Hi bluekaj | 11:41 |
| BluesKaj | Hi Clifford | 11:41 |
| sgclark | clivejo: soooo do you think akonadi needed more than just the mysql bump then? you told me to ignore that other stuff : / | 12:02 |
| sgclark | hmm other stuff was source. so nothing to change there. I have no idea why akonadi would be broken... | 12:28 |
| sgclark | and it works for me | 12:31 |
| libi | Hello everyone here!!1 | 12:53 |
| soee | hiho libi | 12:55 |
| libi | A respectful welcome to everyone here | 12:56 |
| sgclark | hiyas | 12:57 |
| libi | Sir,I am new to contribution CAn Anyone here please guide me in starting contribution .I temperarily know only basic c,c++,html,css,javascript | 12:57 |
| libi | I learnt it from college | 12:58 |
| libi | Can anyone here please guide me. | 12:58 |
| sgclark | if your looking to program you probably want to be in #kde-devel asking that. | 12:59 |
| libi | parden me sir,i couldnt understand what you meant,could you please repeat and explain | 13:02 |
| libi | i am actually not perfect in english thats y,so i request to forgive me if i have grammar mistake | 13:04 |
| sgclark | I would consider myself more of a ma'am. What I am trying to say is we do not develop c,c++ etc here specifically. We package up programs to ships as a whole of Kubuntu. | 13:05 |
| sgclark | If you want to learn program developement you probably want to be in #kde-devel and ask questions there. Most of us are not necessarily programmers and will not be much help. | 13:06 |
| sgclark | if you want to learn packaging, well hang out in here. Right now is not a good time as we are on the cusp of a release. | 13:06 |
| mparillo | !testers: I burned today's daily iso, and it did not start plasma, but dropped me into a login prompt. The Beta2 ISO did start a live Plasma session. Can any testers duplicat it? | 13:08 |
| ubottu | mparillo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 13:08 |
| mparillo | !testers | 13:08 |
| ubottu | Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information | 13:08 |
| mparillo | ^^^ | 13:08 |
| BluesKaj | hey mparillo, what's up? | 13:09 |
| libi | ok thanks sir i understand thanks a lot sir,sgclark | 13:09 |
| mparillo | BluesKaj: Good morning. I burned today's daily iso, and it did not start plasma, but dropped me into a login prompt. The Beta2 ISO did start a live Plasma session. | 13:09 |
| sgclark | libi: just an FYI sir implies male gender. Not all of us are male, in fact I am not. So perhaps don't use that. Cheers | 13:11 |
| soee | i think someone reported it on #kubuntu or some social channel also | 13:11 |
| BluesKaj | mparillo, I've had the login issue for about 4 days now, and I have the staging-plasma and landing ppas in my sources.list | 13:12 |
| libi | ok sorry ,i wont use it here after | 13:12 |
| sgclark | its ok, just information :) | 13:12 |
| libi | hmmm,I understand respect it that you told it | 13:13 |
| libi | :) | 13:13 |
| BluesKaj | I really don't feel like reinstalling again, mparillo | 13:13 |
| mparillo | thanks soee and BluesKaj, but this was on the ISO, not on an install. So, I basically have been running zsync, and today I ran dd for the first time since Beta2, and found it would not start Plasma for me. | 13:15 |
| soee | mparillo: some VM or booting from USB/CD ? | 13:15 |
| mparillo | Booting from a USB | 13:18 |
| mparillo | I plan to test from a VM tomorrow morning. | 13:18 |
| sgclark | making usb | 13:19 |
| sgclark | rebooting to test brb | 13:19 |
| soee | mparillo: from my experiane booting any USB failed for me almost every time | 13:21 |
| soee | and i'm not talkign about sddm but booting system :) | 13:21 |
| mparillo | soee: I used to like the safety of unetbootin, but for about a year now, it did not boot at all, so I went to dd. However, this ISO did boot. I can get a login prompt and type kubuntu <enter> <enter> and sudo poweroff just fine. It is just that plasma did not load. | 13:22 |
| soee | yeah it is sad that system cant be simply booted from SUB even if the usb is done through Startaup Disc creator | 13:23 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: I did not get option for live desktop. Went straight to installer. Abort! | 13:24 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Laptops evidently don't come with dvd anymore... | 13:25 |
| soee | they don't ? :D | 13:29 |
| soee | i must be on some old crappy one than :D | 13:29 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Well mine doesn't :( | 13:29 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Will have to test on vm. Not sure if that is helpful | 13:30 |
| soee | mparillo: you did install system and then have been dropped to cli ? | 13:31 |
| mparillo | I did not install. Lately on Xenial, booting the ISO gives a live plasma session instead of the option of try / install. | 13:36 |
| sgclark | haha I got the complete opposite | 13:37 |
| mparillo | I actually prefer the live plasma session with the install program in a desktop folder on the default desktop. | 13:38 |
| mparillo | Certainly getting dropped straight into an installer is a bigger bug than the reverse. | 13:39 |
| sgclark | sadly I know absolutely nothing of ubiquity | 13:40 |
| sgclark | so I am likely no help if it is broken. or installation issues at all. | 13:40 |
| mparillo | Thanks for trying anyway. Maybe the base Ubuntu project changed something recently. | 13:41 |
| sgclark | I have learned a valuable lesson. I know so much less than I thought I did when it comes to release | 13:41 |
| clivejo | I learned I know nothing about release! | 13:42 |
| sgclark | lol | 13:42 |
| mparillo | The first step towards wisdom is acknowledging that you do not know everything. | 13:42 |
| mparillo | Maybe I should write fortunes for fortune cookies | 13:42 |
| clivejo | the release fairies do it | 13:43 |
| mparillo | I will join #ubuntu-release and see if they know anything | 13:44 |
| acheron | clivejo: installed muon 5.6.0-0ubuntu1 from main repo but is still showing as 5.5 in "about" http://i.imgur.com/sqWA8ea.png | 13:45 |
| clivejo | acheron: that would need to be reported upstream | 13:46 |
| clivejo | in fact all those details need corected | 13:47 |
| clivejo | with Carlo, Ovidiu and Rick added in as maintainers | 13:47 |
| acheron | figured so, but wasn't sure who has responsibility now. | 13:48 |
| clivejo | do you have Carlo's email? | 13:48 |
| acheron | maybe | 13:48 |
| clivejo | hopefully if we can provide him with decent feedback, he will see people are using it and think its worth the effort in maintaining | 13:49 |
| clivejo | Id also like to see a link to it in Discover | 13:50 |
| clivejo | like in Advanced Tools or something | 13:50 |
| acheron | What? as in "if you'd like to use a proper package manager, please click this link?" | 13:51 |
| clivejo | LOL yeah | 13:51 |
| acheron | lol, yes perhaps | 13:51 |
| clivejo | big red button :) | 13:51 |
| soee | mparillo: there was known bug | 13:52 |
| clivejo | clicking it plays a clip of "Danger, Will Robinson! " | 13:52 |
| clivejo | and opens Muon PM | 13:52 |
| clivejo | I should be a UI designer, Id be great | 13:53 |
| acheron | I wouldn't. | 13:54 |
| sgclark | me either, all buttons would open a terminal | 13:54 |
| acheron | I don't mind doing things the hard way if I learn extra by it. | 13:55 |
| clivejo | LOL Im being sarcastic, I have no sense of style, fashion or art | 13:55 |
| acheron | 2 pPs in a pod then | 13:55 |
| clivejo | but I know what I like | 13:56 |
| clivejo | when an inferface feels natural and flowing | 13:56 |
| clivejo | I love being able to hope back and forth between Kubuntu and my phone | 13:57 |
| clivejo | kinda wish there was an app like telegram but more IRC focused | 13:57 |
| soee | irc focused ? | 13:58 |
| acheron | sorry I missed the packaging party that seems to have discussed it, if only in an initial way | 13:58 |
| clivejo | like would post messages as me | 13:58 |
| clivejo | acheron: you didnt miss much :P | 13:58 |
| clivejo | we learned how not to make a key! | 13:58 |
| * soee tries Clementine 1.3 | 13:58 | |
| acheron | I know how to mae a gpg key | 13:59 |
| acheron | *make | 13:59 |
| clivejo | as as far into packaging as we made it | 13:59 |
| clivejo | there was more partying than packaging! | 13:59 |
| sgclark | live desktop boots fine into a vm | 13:59 |
| acheron | clivejo: prob a result of holding it on a Friday nighy ;) | 14:00 |
| clivejo | but I thinki both have merit | 14:01 |
| acheron | lol | 14:01 |
| clivejo | hanging out and having fun is important too | 14:02 |
| clivejo | but I do find alcohol and packaging dont mix very well | 14:03 |
| clivejo | hard enough when you're sober! | 14:04 |
| acheron | linux is about community, so you are right | 14:04 |
| clivejo | we I think we should have parties and packaging events, both separate :) | 14:04 |
| acheron | packaging is about technicalities so less easy with of few JDs | 14:05 |
| acheron | *a few | 14:05 |
| sgclark | lol true | 14:05 |
| sgclark | but yeah probably should have seperate events. | 14:05 |
| sgclark | but I do think the party is a good event to keep going and hope it brings new people. ALways fun hanging out in less streessful environment. | 14:06 |
| clivejo | I agree | 14:06 |
| clivejo | learn a lot about people | 14:07 |
| sgclark | Too early for me to oenjoy the alchol side lol, but fun still | 14:07 |
| acheron | have one with a follow up later for those who want to get serious | 14:07 |
| clivejo | we all have hobbies and lifes outside of Kubuntu! | 14:07 |
| sgclark | wow I butchered that sentence and I am not drunk | 14:07 |
| clivejo | I think we should do it the other way around | 14:08 |
| clivejo | have the packaging first and then the party starts | 14:08 |
| sgclark | yeah | 14:08 |
| clivejo | we have 4 conference rooms on BBB | 14:08 |
| clivejo | we some people wanted to carry on packaging they could | 14:09 |
| clivejo | or move over to the party and chat, make friends | 14:09 |
| sgclark | yes, that sounds great | 14:09 |
| clivejo | I was impressed by that Simon cub | 14:11 |
| clivejo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tsimonq2 | 14:11 |
| clivejo | only 14 and already so involved in the community | 14:11 |
| sgclark | yeah thats awesome | 14:14 |
| sgclark | yes akonadi seems broken. | 14:15 |
| sgclark | no clue how or what though | 14:15 |
| sgclark | well obviously mysql | 14:15 |
| clivejo | sgclark: I dont understand, it was working with MySQL 5.7 yesterday | 14:15 |
| sgclark | it was? | 14:15 |
| clivejo | and literally broke over night without any updates | 14:15 |
| sgclark | I just upgraded and it is now broekn | 14:16 |
| sgclark | broken | 14:16 |
| clivejo | yeah I got it working again yesterday | 14:16 |
| soee | how can i test if it works or not ? | 14:18 |
| clivejo | I purged version 5.6, installed 5.7 then installed your version of akonadi | 14:18 |
| clivejo | was working fine | 14:19 |
| clivejo | in fact I thought it was a little quicker in displaying my bigger mailboxes | 14:19 |
| clivejo | could libqt5sql5-mysql have something to do with it? | 14:24 |
| sgclark | oh. seems I still have 5.6 mysql | 14:24 |
| sgclark | getting baloo_indexer errors | 14:27 |
| sgclark | well yet another thing way over my head. I have no idea. | 14:35 |
| sgclark | oh wait. mine is working after mysql upgrade. | 14:38 |
| sgclark | blah I need to lay back down. Not feeling so hot from lack of sleep. bbl | 14:38 |
| clivejo | I wish it would display details of the problem | 14:43 |
| clivejo | I keep getting an error - stderr: "mysqld: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /home/clivejo/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf\nmysqld: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!\n" | 14:48 |
| clivejo | the file is there | 14:48 |
| clivejo | Ive removed it, copied an old one and still getting that arror | 14:48 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Sound like format changed? Try to remove and restart akonadi? | 14:49 |
| clivejo | I dont understand that /mysql.conf\nmysqld | 14:50 |
| clivejo | \n is a new line? | 14:50 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Yeah | 14:50 |
| clivejo | Ive removed it | 14:50 |
| clivejo | and restarted, it just creates a new old and fails | 14:50 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Dont know. Can try and ping dvatril in #kontact | 14:52 |
| clivejo | https://paste.kde.org/p38cchqjn | 14:54 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Seems likely that appended \nmysqld | 14:57 |
| clivejo | I dont know | 14:57 |
| clivejo | the config file looks fine and its worked in the past | 14:57 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: Me either! | 14:57 |
| clivejo | have we still got akonadi in the misc ppa? | 14:57 |
| telegram | <sgclark2>: No idea sorry | 14:58 |
| clivejo | doesnt seem to be :( | 14:58 |
| Skuggen | clivejo: I think maybe that error message is just putting \n instead of a linebreak, and that \nmysqld isn't really part of the error message | 15:20 |
| Skuggen | Can you try setting mode 777 on the mysql.conf file just to see if that has any effect? | 15:21 |
| clivejo | sure, just a sec | 15:21 |
| clivejo | my head is all over the place right now | 15:22 |
| Skuggen | ls /etc/mysql/ | 15:24 |
| Skuggen | Whops, wrong window | 15:24 |
| clivejo | Skuggen: still failing to open the file | 15:29 |
| Skuggen | What did you do to get it working yesterday? | 15:33 |
| clivejo | I purged all mysql and kontact, installed 5.7 and then installed kontact | 15:34 |
| clivejo | it was working last night, I shut it down, booted this morning and its not working | 15:35 |
| telegram | <athoneycutt>: /me jumps to tumbleweed | 16:27 |
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| sgclark | mparillo: plasma starts in live and on install in a VM for me. I cannot reproduce on hardware as I only have access to USB which seems to not allow live session. | 18:18 |
| sgclark | clivejo: oh plasma-dsicover was merged from debian bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1570551 | 18:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1570551 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "FFe: Merge plasma-discover 5.6.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] | 18:19 |
| sgclark | guessing debian does not have those patches | 18:19 |
| snele | sgclark: in archive is discover 5.5.5. the patch is from 5.6.0 so it needs to be backported to 5.5.5. if discover 5.6.2 would be merged it will already has this patch | 18:23 |
| snele | anyway i see new discover with patch is built so i'll test it and report back | 18:24 |
| sgclark | snele: the one from bug report? yeah please do | 18:25 |
| sgclark | I have no idea how we had patches and now dont then... | 18:25 |
| sgclark | ok I think my akonadi problem has to do with this akonadi_baloo_indexer which is not suppose to exist. removing that seems to have made my mail functional again. | 18:33 |
| sgclark | ScottK: we have a debian merge that needs to go in, fixes stuff plasma-discover https://launchpad.net/~ximion/+archive/ubuntu/tests/+packages?field.series_filter=xenial the bug linked above. | 18:36 |
| sgclark | pretty please with cherries on top. | 18:37 |
| sgclark | ximion: hopefully ScottK can help us get that in ^^ | 18:40 |
| ximion | :-) | 18:43 |
| clivejo | ximion: whats that package in your PPA? | 18:47 |
| sgclark | plasma-discover | 18:47 |
| sgclark | should fix those problems we are having | 18:47 |
| clivejo | is it not fixed? | 18:47 |
| sgclark | I didnt see any updates, so my guess is no? | 18:48 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/5.5.5-0ubuntu2 | 18:48 |
| sgclark | ah | 18:48 |
| clivejo | Adam aka infinity applied the patches earier | 18:48 |
| sgclark | oh well we should bring in this newer one anyway | 18:48 |
| sgclark | Ffe was approved awhile ago, just short a MOTU as usual | 18:49 |
| * sgclark feels like she is working with her hands tied behind her back | 18:49 | |
| clivejo | Phil cherry picked those patches for it to work | 18:49 |
| clivejo | but I dont know where they went to in the mean time | 18:50 |
| sgclark | I've no idea.. | 18:50 |
| clivejo | snele: did you get 5.5.5-0ubuntu2 yet? | 18:50 |
| sgclark | but it seems I know very little | 18:50 |
| clivejo | I didnt think we could put Plasma 5.6 into the archive | 18:51 |
| clivejo | unless it was a patch | 18:51 |
| clivejo | to 5.5.5 source | 18:51 |
| clivejo | is that wrong? | 18:53 |
| clivejo | I give up with akonadi | 18:56 |
| clivejo | Ive no idea why it wont work | 18:56 |
| sgclark | clivejo: apparently we can. I asked the same thing. It does not depend on any other plasma components. | 18:59 |
| clivejo | oh right | 18:59 |
| * clivejo makes a mental note | 19:00 | |
| clivejo | well i believe the issue snele had is fixed in that ubuntu2 version | 19:00 |
| clivejo | although I didnt see a report back | 19:01 |
| sgclark | ok | 19:01 |
| clivejo | is your akonadi working sgclark? | 19:01 |
| sgclark | yep | 19:02 |
| sgclark | my problem was a rogue baloo_indexer | 19:02 |
| sgclark | installion cruft | 19:02 |
| clivejo | do you use kontact? | 19:02 |
| sgclark | yes | 19:03 |
| clivejo | I cant get it to start :( | 19:07 |
| * clivejo rolls back to 5.6 | 19:08 | |
| clivejo | hi Blizzz | 19:10 |
| clivejo | BluesKaj even | 19:10 |
| Blizzz | hey hey ;) | 19:10 |
| clivejo | sorry ! | 19:10 |
| BluesKaj | yup, clivejo that's me :-) | 19:10 |
| clivejo | auto complete goes a bit crazy with BluesKaj | 19:11 |
| BluesKaj | too many blue ppl | 19:11 |
| BluesKaj | had this nick since 1999 | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | on irc | 19:12 |
| clivejo | thats a long time! | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | didn't have a pc at home until then ...used them at work etc, but this little town didn't have any internet service worth using until Bell brought in dialup the yr before | 19:14 |
| BluesKaj | my workplace had it's own network connected to it's head office etc | 19:15 |
| clivejo | and its working again | 19:17 |
| clivejo | with mysql 5.6 | 19:17 |
| clivejo | so whats the difference?!? | 19:17 |
| sgclark | that is weird. mine did not work until I upgraded to 5.7... | 19:21 |
| sgclark | gremlins | 19:21 |
| clivejo | *beeping* *beeper* spammers | 19:21 |
| sgclark | yeah out of control | 19:22 |
| clivejo | bye bye sendgrid.com you are the weakest link | 19:22 |
| clivejo | it would be nice if the plasmiod updater could be configured to launch Muon PM instead | 19:27 |
| clivejo | Skuggen: ping | 19:32 |
| Skuggen | clivejo: I'll try to pick some brains at the office tomorrow and see if we can figure out what the issue is (plus I'll have a machine I can actually use to test stuff) | 19:45 |
| mparillo | TY sgclark: I will try to reproduce tomorrow morning in a VM with tomorrows ISO. BTW, nobody in #ubuntu-release had heard about it either. | 19:47 |
| clivejo | Ive gone back to 5.6 and it works fine | 19:49 |
| === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz | ||
| Skuggen | So for you it only works with 5.6 and for sgclark it only works with 5.7 now? | 19:57 |
| clivejo | o/ snele | 19:57 |
| clivejo | seems that way | 19:57 |
| Skuggen | And you both had existing databases? | 19:57 |
| clivejo | I did, quite large ones | 19:58 |
| clivejo | it caches all my emails etc | 19:59 |
| * clivejo ties a rope to snele's ankle | 19:59 | |
| snele | clivejo: works now :) thank you | 20:02 |
| Skuggen | clivejo: I don't have an existing setup to test with, but from the errors I guess I should be able to reproduce by first installing with 5.6 and then upgrading | 20:04 |
| clivejo | upgrading? | 20:10 |
| sgclark | I have existing yes, probably not as large as clivejo but largish | 20:11 |
| sgclark | I do not get the conf error he gets eaither | 20:11 |
| sgclark | either | 20:11 |
| clivejo | have you rebooted since Scarlett? | 20:12 |
| sgclark | yeah when I tested the iso | 20:12 |
| clivejo | it was working last night, but when I booted this morning it wasnt | 20:12 |
| clivejo | !info libneon27 xenial | 20:14 |
| ubottu | libneon27 (source: neon27): HTTP and WebDAV client library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.30.1-3build1 (xenial), package size 98 kB, installed size 287 kB | 20:14 |
| Skuggen | clivejo: I still suspect some sort of permission issue on the file, since that's the error message you get if mysql can't read it, not just if it's not there | 20:15 |
| clivejo | but it reads it fine in 5.6 | 20:15 |
| Skuggen | But I don't know why that would change from 5.6 to 5.7 | 20:16 |
| Skuggen | right | 20:16 |
| Skuggen | sgclark: You haven't run mysql_upgrade on the akonadi db, right? | 20:17 |
| clivejo | nope | 20:21 |
| clivejo | so I had 5.6 installed, which was working. Then installed mysql-server, rebooted and now its not working | 20:21 |
| clivejo | one thing I notice is that if I purge all mysql and just install 5.7 it doesnt ask for a root password | 20:24 |
| clivejo | is that normal? | 20:24 |
| Skuggen | This is after installing 5.6? | 20:24 |
| clivejo | purge all | 20:25 |
| vip | I've heard about new permission types (socket, password) | 20:25 |
| clivejo | then install 5.6 it asks for a root password | 20:25 |
| Skuggen | The 5.6 install scripts won't always purge the password, I think, so it remembers it | 20:25 |
| clivejo | but 5.7 doesnt | 20:25 |
| Skuggen | Yes, they use the same debconf variable | 20:25 |
| Skuggen | That's intentional; upgrading generally shouldn't make it forget user preferences. But 5.6 not clearing the root password is a bug | 20:26 |
| Skuggen | Bedtime for me. I'll let you know what we figure out | 20:27 |
| clivejo | I have to rm the var/lib/mysql folder to downgrade because of a debian flag | 20:27 |
| Skuggen | Yeah, it touches and checks for the debian-[version].flag file to prevent accidental downgrades, though the way it's done is pretty iffy | 20:31 |
| sgclark | Skuggen: not to my knowledge | 20:38 |
| clivejo | does anyone else plasma panel keep moving after a reboot? | 21:09 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: ? | 21:14 |
| clivejo | every reboot it jumps to my other monitor | 21:14 |
| clivejo | really getting on my nerves now | 21:14 |
| mparillo | I wish I had dual monitors. | 21:15 |
| ahoneybun | my graphics card port stopped working so I'm down to 1 | 21:15 |
| clivejo | and another reboot! | 21:16 |
| clivejo | feels like Im back on windows today | 21:16 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: @Cliff i seen this on my dual monitor setup at work. | 22:16 |
| mparillo | !testers | 22:16 |
| ubottu | Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information | 22:16 |
| mparillo | First Release Candidates are up: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/359/builds | 22:16 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: I can test tomorrow :) | 22:17 |
| clivejo | @marcinsagol does it do it every reboot? | 22:17 |
| === debfx_ is now known as debfx | ||
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: I don't think so. Can't remember now. It happens sometimes after some updates. | 22:18 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: I suggest to test it on a new user account | 22:19 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: This way you can verify if some configuration is misbehaving | 22:19 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: I have 2 screens at work. First one has panel on left edge and second screen on its right edge. | 22:21 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: And sometimes the panel from second screen is moved to first screen right edge. | 22:22 |
| telegram | <marcinsagol>: But as I said it happens after some updates I think. | 22:22 |
| mamarley | clivejo: I have seen the panel-moving issue on my home computer as well. I haven't seen it on my work computer though. | 22:45 |
| clivejo | it 'jumps' on mine | 22:45 |
| clivejo | it starts to load in the right place then jumps to the second monitor | 22:46 |
| mamarley | Sometimes after I boot the panel on the right monitor flashes several times, and sometimes it ends up moving to the left monitor. | 22:46 |
| mamarley | (The right monitor is where it should be; I have one panel on each.) | 22:46 |
| clivejo | I have one panel on my bottom screen | 22:47 |
| clivejo | but it jumps to the top screen on reboot and first boot | 22:47 |
| mamarley | Anyway, it is somewhat annoying, but not a showstopper by any means. I can move it back. | 22:47 |
| mamarley | It doesn't always move for me, only sometimes. | 22:48 |
| mparillo | Whoo-Hoo. Today's release candidate booted, I got the try / install, and I am re-booting. | 23:42 |
| mamarley | Cool, that's great. | 23:46 |
| mparillo | Still no default applications in favorites, but otherwise great news. Thanks to so many, but especially to sgclark, yofel | 23:49 |
| sgclark | great news | 23:50 |
| * sgclark wonders where favorites is defined | 23:50 | |
| snele | classic menu widget has favorites | 23:57 |
| snele | but it probably has different config file | 23:57 |
| sgclark | I mean in kubuntu land so defaults are set | 23:57 |
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