| Kilos | morning everyone | 05:01 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | Maaz tell langjan install any windows on the first 36g, lets see if that works, then we partition the rest for ubuntu | 05:02 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode | 05:02 |
| magespawn | good morning | 05:46 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 05:46 |
| Kilos | hi Wolfeyes | 05:46 |
| magespawn | well that chased him away | 05:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:53 |
| Kilos | most likely woke him, so he did like with an alarm off button on a clock | 06:00 |
| Kilos | hit it till it shuts up | 06:00 |
| zipper | Kilos: Hey | 06:33 |
| zipper | How'd it go? | 06:33 |
| Kilos | hi zipper | 06:33 |
| Kilos | i wanted to talk to you first | 06:33 |
| mazal | Mornings | 07:09 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 07:32 |
| mazal | More oom , gaanit daar ? | 07:33 |
| Kilos | ok dankie en jy | 07:33 |
| mazal | goed goed , niks probleme | 07:33 |
| Kilos | ek net moeg | 07:38 |
| Kilos | min geslaap | 07:38 |
| Kilos | weet nie hoekom nie | 07:38 |
| mazal | hdd nagmerries :P | 07:44 |
| === thatgraemeguy_ is now known as thatgraemeguy | ||
| zipper | Hello Kilos-- | 09:20 |
| zipper | Sorry I have so many things I'm multitasking. | 09:20 |
| jan__ | Hello Kilos-- and guys | 09:21 |
| zipper | Yes just do the deed, stop worrying. | 09:21 |
| Kilos-- | hi jan__ | 09:21 |
| jan__ | Lekker geslaap? | 09:22 |
| Kilos-- | sleg eintlik | 09:22 |
| zipper | I explained everything to the best of my ability even showing the log you linked me to. | 09:22 |
| zipper | Kilos--: :) | 09:22 |
| jan__ | ai! jammer, hoekom? | 09:22 |
| Kilos-- | cool ty zipper | 09:23 |
| zipper | Kilos--: I actually expected you to do it yesterday. | 09:24 |
| zipper | But it's all good as long as you're on schedule I assume. | 09:24 |
| Kilos-- | i was busy trying to help the old uncle | 09:24 |
| jan__ | Ai, jammer! | 09:25 |
| Kilos-- | yes i only got contact from michael just now | 09:25 |
| Kilos-- | wanted to hear how he wanted to do it as well | 09:25 |
| jan__ | Why does this thing keep logging me in as jan__? | 09:26 |
| Kilos-- | jan__ what have you achieved | 09:26 |
| zipper | Kilos--: It's cool | 09:26 |
| Kilos-- | /nick Langjan | 09:26 |
| zipper | Oh I see | 09:26 |
| jan__ | setting up win xp on 56Gb | 09:26 |
| jan__ | thks | 09:26 |
| Kilos-- | is it working | 09:26 |
| === jan__ is now known as Langjan | ||
| Langjan | Formatting at the moment | 09:27 |
| Kilos-- | lets hope | 09:27 |
| Kilos-- | i forgot all about that way | 09:27 |
| Langjan | It forgot the bios at last, had to re-setup boot order | 09:27 |
| Kilos-- | i said often here i found something win is useful for | 09:28 |
| Langjan | oh, you now got a better way? | 09:28 |
| Langjan | useful for plugging holes | 09:28 |
| Kilos-- | yes use win to use up bad disk space | 09:28 |
| Langjan | Good idea | 09:28 |
| Kilos-- | linux much more sensitive to drive probs | 09:28 |
| Kilos-- | maybe we should even add a boot partiton as well then linux is all seperate | 09:30 |
| Langjan | Eks in jou hande, slawedrywer | 09:31 |
| Kilos-- | lol | 09:32 |
| Langjan | Doing slow format, its on 81% | 09:32 |
| Kilos-- | yeah ms doesnt formay fas like linux | 09:32 |
| Kilos-- | fast | 09:32 |
| Langjan | Blitsboks lost to Fiji in great semifinal | 09:33 |
| Langjan | were two options, I chose slow one | 09:33 |
| Kilos-- | ok | 09:33 |
| Langjan | 91% | 09:33 |
| Langjan | Win setup completion eta 12:15 | 09:43 |
| Kilos-- | yay | 09:44 |
| Langjan | those are microsoft minutes... | 09:44 |
| Langjan | lmga | 09:44 |
| Kilos-- | lol | 09:45 |
| zipper | Have you guys used letsencrypt? | 09:46 |
| Kilos-- | nope | 09:46 |
| zipper | SMH I have soooo much to do :( | 09:46 |
| zipper | I have so much code to write, blog posts to write, books and docs to read. | 09:47 |
| zipper | The perils of getting into a new ecosystem | 09:47 |
| Kilos-- | ai! | 09:48 |
| zipper | Kilos--: ai? | 09:48 |
| Kilos-- | whew | 09:48 |
| Kilos-- | so much to do | 09:48 |
| Kilos-- | what sound do you guys make for that zipper | 10:02 |
| zipper | LOL I don't even know what sound you just made there | 10:11 |
| zipper | The closest thing I can think of is "aye" | 10:11 |
| Kilos-- | sounds like eye just sharper | 10:11 |
| Kilos-- | can be used when shocked or surprized or frustrated | 10:12 |
| Kilos-- | Langjan you winning? | 10:12 |
| zipper | Kilos--: hahaha yes there is that sound. | 10:13 |
| Kilos-- | 14 mins long gone | 10:13 |
| Kilos-- | lol | 10:13 |
| zipper | Kilos--: :D | 10:13 |
| zipper | I just didn't expect it to come from you :) | 10:13 |
| Kilos-- | :D | 10:13 |
| Kilos-- | hahaha why not | 10:13 |
| zipper | Kilos--: I thought it was a Kenyan thing or a Swahili thing. | 10:13 |
| Langjan | 3 minutes | 10:13 |
| Langjan | 1 | 10:14 |
| Kilos-- | maybe its an all africa thing | 10:14 |
| zipper | Maybe | 10:15 |
| Kilos-- | Langjan just reboot it twice after it has done so we can see if the boot sector is happt | 10:15 |
| Kilos-- | happy | 10:15 |
| Kilos-- | pity you made it so large though | 10:16 |
| Langjan | OK Win xp up and running | 10:17 |
| Kilos-- | reboot twice more | 10:17 |
| Kilos-- | or once | 10:17 |
| Kilos-- | and one shutdown and then boot | 10:17 |
| Langjan | Win booting fine | 10:18 |
| Kilos-- | ok now boot from buntu cd | 10:18 |
| Kilos-- | and go the try option | 10:19 |
| Langjan | Is try the way to normally go or just because of the hiccups? | 10:20 |
| Kilos-- | try lets you make your own partitions | 10:20 |
| Kilos-- | with gparted | 10:20 |
| Langjan | ok | 10:21 |
| Kilos-- | you also use try when you want to repair things in a drive that isnt booting properly | 10:26 |
| Kilos-- | i havent had that for a while though | 10:27 |
| Langjan | Ok ubuntu running and gparted open | 10:29 |
| Langjan | shows win partition and 93GB sda2 and 7 Gb unallocated and two small ones, 1000mb each, sda 3 and linux swap | 10:31 |
| Langjan | you there Kilos-- ? | 10:32 |
| Kilos-- | yessir | 10:33 |
| Langjan | ok what do you want to do with the partitions? | 10:35 |
| Kilos-- | you see the htfs one | 10:35 |
| Kilos-- | thats win | 10:35 |
| Kilos-- | below must be 100g | 10:35 |
| Langjan | no, only ntfs | 10:35 |
| Kilos-- | unallocated | 10:36 |
| Kilos-- | ya ntfs | 10:36 |
| Kilos-- | sorry | 10:36 |
| Langjan | the ntfs is where win xp is | 10:36 |
| Kilos-- | yes | 10:36 |
| Kilos-- | so have you got ovder 100g spare? | 10:36 |
| Langjan | yes | 10:37 |
| Kilos-- | how much | 10:37 |
| Kilos-- | tick on it then tick partitions and tick new | 10:37 |
| Langjan | 93 gb sda2, 7 gb unallocated, 1gb sda3 extended and 1gb linux swap | 10:38 |
| Langjan | tick on which it? | 10:38 |
| Kilos-- | delete them lets get a totsl | 10:38 |
| Kilos-- | dont delete ntfs | 10:39 |
| Langjan | ok now I have 93 GB unallocated and the two small ones | 10:40 |
| Kilos-- | delete swap as well | 10:40 |
| Kilos-- | too small | 10:40 |
| Langjan | it wont | 10:40 |
| Kilos-- | sigh ok then | 10:40 |
| Langjan | just a sec, did not apply | 10:41 |
| Langjan | ok still the same, 93gb unallocated the small ones wiont delete | 10:42 |
| Kilos-- | ok we use the 93 | 10:42 |
| Langjan | the 7gb has disappeared to somewhere | 10:42 |
| Kilos-- | lol | 10:42 |
| Kilos-- | ok tick the 93g | 10:43 |
| Kilos-- | then tick partition then new | 10:43 |
| Langjan | ok its 95gb | 10:43 |
| Langjan | max | 10:44 |
| Kilos-- | ok now use 35g and mountpoint / | 10:44 |
| Kilos-- | and tick the format block | 10:44 |
| Kilos-- | then apply | 10:44 |
| Langjan | 35g and mountpoint? lost me | 10:45 |
| Kilos-- | when you tick new it opens a window | 10:46 |
| Kilos-- | with size available and moint point near the bottom | 10:46 |
| Kilos-- | in mount point is a small triangle on the right | 10:47 |
| Kilos-- | tick it and first thing you see is / | 10:47 |
| Kilos-- | thats your root partition | 10:47 |
| Langjan | nothing like that here | 10:48 |
| Kilos-- | huh | 10:48 |
| Kilos-- | did you tick the unallocated | 10:48 |
| Langjan | Yes, thats what you said. why cant I just install ubuntu to dual boot? | 10:49 |
| Kilos-- | because it will install in the 56g | 10:49 |
| Langjan | Wont it ask to install alongside? Liek it normally does? | 10:49 |
| Kilos-- | and hopefully thats where the bad parts are only | 10:49 |
| Kilos-- | nope | 10:50 |
| Kilos-- | it will go in the 56 | 10:50 |
| Kilos-- | you can try it | 10:50 |
| Langjan | Sorry gotta go, otherwise cold food and hot wife | 10:50 |
| Kilos-- | but im sure it will want to resize the 56g | 10:50 |
| Kilos-- | ok enjoy | 10:50 |
| Kilos-- | i eat soon too | 10:50 |
| Langjan | ok lekker eet | 10:51 |
| Langjan | check you later | 10:51 |
| Kilos-- | ok | 10:51 |
| Kilos-- | dankie | 10:51 |
| Kilos-- | my way it is still alongside but using the freespace | 10:57 |
| Kilos-- | if you want to do the conventional alongside you install xp on the whole drive then let ubuntu install alongside | 10:57 |
| Kilos-- | and it will resize | 10:58 |
| Kilos-- | hi Cryterion | 11:06 |
| Kilos-- | oh Langjan it will still dual boot this way | 11:06 |
| Cryterion | hi | 11:08 |
| mazal | mmmmmm now that was a lekker lunch. Mac & cheese , lamb chops and boerewors | 11:20 |
| Langjan | You there Kilos-- ? | 12:07 |
| Kilos-- | yessir | 12:07 |
| Kilos-- | you eat lots hey | 12:07 |
| Kilos-- | have you read up what i said | 12:08 |
| Langjan | We had a guest. | 12:08 |
| Kilos-- | im teasing man | 12:08 |
| Langjan | Yes. Ok thks, I'm in installation, its wanting to create a new partition on the 100gb free space, which option? | 12:09 |
| Langjan | for mount point | 12:09 |
| Kilos-- | oh | 12:09 |
| Kilos-- | / | 12:09 |
| Kilos-- | thats for the 35g right | 12:10 |
| Langjan | ok is that it? no for 100gb | 12:10 |
| Kilos-- | nee man | 12:10 |
| Langjan | what is the 35 gb for? | 12:10 |
| Kilos-- | you need a root partition and a /home partition | 12:10 |
| Kilos-- | root | 12:10 |
| Langjan | why? never had that | 12:11 |
| Kilos-- | yes because you let the os decide what will be what size | 12:11 |
| Kilos-- | here we decide | 12:11 |
| Langjan | but remember you have told me | 12:11 |
| Kilos-- | like the 1g ram is too small | 12:11 |
| Kilos-- | ok tell | 12:12 |
| Langjan | ok so I select / | 12:12 |
| Langjan | and 35 gb | 12:12 |
| Kilos-- | yes | 12:12 |
| Kilos-- | and ext4 i think | 12:12 |
| Langjan | and ext 4? | 12:12 |
| Kilos-- | might already be there | 12:13 |
| Kilos-- | and tick the format little block | 12:13 |
| Kilos-- | then apply | 12:13 |
| Kilos-- | at the end of the install it will run update-grub and that will lett you dual boot with xp | 12:14 |
| Langjan | itsnot formatting, did format in try phase, is that why? | 12:15 |
| Kilos-- | it wont format yet | 12:15 |
| Langjan | Im not in try phase, its the installation | 12:15 |
| Kilos-- | it will format it when you go on if that format block is ticked | 12:15 |
| Kilos-- | oh | 12:16 |
| Langjan | ok so what next | 12:16 |
| Kilos-- | ok | 12:16 |
| Kilos-- | tick free space | 12:16 |
| Kilos-- | unallocated area | 12:16 |
| Kilos-- | should be 60g | 12:16 |
| Langjan | yes 66 | 12:16 |
| Langjan | now primary or logical? | 12:17 |
| Kilos-- | ok tick pertition then new | 12:17 |
| Kilos-- | then mount point /home | 12:17 |
| Langjan | yes now primary or logical | 12:17 |
| Kilos-- | let it decide | 12:17 |
| Langjan | and location beginning or end? | 12:18 |
| Kilos-- | it will have the default choice already there | 12:18 |
| Kilos-- | logical i think it shows | 12:18 |
| Kilos-- | end | 12:18 |
| Kilos-- | win is in the beginning | 12:18 |
| Langjan | yes shows logical | 12:18 |
| Kilos-- | go with it | 12:18 |
| Langjan | ok it showed beginning but also did recognise windows | 12:19 |
| Kilos-- | you see mountpoint /home | 12:19 |
| Langjan | yes | 12:19 |
| Kilos-- | and ext4 | 12:19 |
| Langjan | yes | 12:19 |
| Kilos-- | good then apply | 12:19 |
| Kilos-- | then install | 12:19 |
| Langjan | ext 4 journalling file system | 12:19 |
| Kilos-- | yes | 12:19 |
| Kilos-- | ext4 is less liely to be damaged by power cuts than any other | 12:20 |
| Kilos-- | likely | 12:20 |
| Kilos-- | hi bushtech | 12:20 |
| bushtech | dag kilos | 12:20 |
| Kilos-- | my internet is better again | 12:20 |
| Langjan | it wants me to consider swap area | 12:21 |
| Kilos-- | doesnt it see that swap | 12:21 |
| Langjan | I deleted it | 12:21 |
| Kilos-- | you said it wouldnt | 12:21 |
| Kilos-- | lol | 12:21 |
| bushtech | Kilos--: mtn very bad here today mtr shows one conn as 98% loss | 12:21 |
| Kilos-- | ok | 12:21 |
| Kilos-- | delete /home again | 12:22 |
| Langjan | it was the original 1gb that you wanted me to fdelete | 12:22 |
| Kilos-- | ok we make swap no | 12:22 |
| Langjan | ok done | 12:22 |
| Kilos-- | now | 12:22 |
| Langjan | now? | 12:22 |
| Kilos-- | tick the unallocated | 12:22 |
| Kilos-- | then partition | 12:22 |
| Langjan | free space | 12:22 |
| Langjan | 66 gb | 12:22 |
| Kilos-- | then make size 3g | 12:23 |
| Kilos-- | then | 12:23 |
| Kilos-- | in the block a bov mountpoint i think you can choose swap area | 12:23 |
| Kilos-- | if its not there its in mountpoint | 12:24 |
| Kilos-- | im running on memory | 12:24 |
| Kilos-- | thats bad bushtech | 12:24 |
| Langjan | swap area created | 12:24 |
| Kilos-- | have you tried your afrihost | 12:24 |
| Kilos-- | ok then tick unalocated again | 12:25 |
| Langjan | me? | 12:25 |
| Langjan | long on afrihost | 12:25 |
| Kilos-- | then mountpoint /home | 12:25 |
| Kilos-- | nee man bushtech met sy mtn | 12:25 |
| Kilos-- | oh my | 12:25 |
| Kilos-- | afrihost is on mtn | 12:26 |
| bushtech | this is on afrihost | 12:26 |
| bushtech | yep | 12:26 |
| Langjan | afrihost uses mtn | 12:26 |
| Kilos-- | fone them and complain | 12:26 |
| Kilos-- | i forgot man | 12:26 |
| Langjan | ok now install? | 12:26 |
| Kilos-- | get mixed up with cellc and voda | 12:26 |
| bushtech | I'd rather slit my wrists than try and fone from here | 12:26 |
| Kilos-- | yes Langjan hit install | 12:27 |
| Kilos-- | and run | 12:27 |
| Langjan | device for boot loader installation is the whole hdd | 12:27 |
| Kilos-- | might explode | 12:27 |
| Kilos-- | yes | 12:27 |
| Kilos-- | then it will share win boot sector | 12:27 |
| Langjan | moenie spot nie, jy het gister gesien wat kan gebeur | 12:28 |
| Kilos-- | if that gives trouble we make a seperate /boot | 12:28 |
| Kilos-- | haha | 12:28 |
| Langjan | ok the /dev/sda above the partitions is highlighted, that ok? | 12:28 |
| Kilos-- | im lost | 12:29 |
| Kilos-- | did it highlight itself | 12:29 |
| Langjan | device shows dev/sda, the below is list of partitions | 12:29 |
| Kilos-- | yes hit install | 12:29 |
| Langjan | does where it is highlighted now determine where installation will take place?e | 12:30 |
| Kilos-- | i dont think so | 12:30 |
| Kilos-- | did you highlight it | 12:30 |
| Langjan | perhaps highlight 63gb too be safe? | 12:30 |
| Langjan | no it was there | 12:30 |
| Kilos-- | no 35 | 12:30 |
| Kilos-- | im sure it knows what goes whewre | 12:31 |
| Kilos-- | where | 12:31 |
| Kilos-- | very hard working on memory | 12:31 |
| Kilos-- | sda is the whole drive | 12:31 |
| Langjan | ok so 35 but i think youre right anyway | 12:31 |
| Kilos-- | hit it | 12:32 |
| Kilos-- | install lets se | 12:32 |
| Kilos-- | e | 12:32 |
| Kilos-- | ai! | 12:32 |
| Langjan | where am I? | 12:32 |
| Kilos-- | i dunno | 12:32 |
| Kilos-- | at home i think | 12:33 |
| Kilos-- | not in the kitchen or dining room anymore | 12:33 |
| Langjan | It said S Africa so I went with it... | 12:33 |
| Kilos-- | duh | 12:33 |
| Kilos-- | now its a standard install | 12:33 |
| Kilos-- | put tannies name and good password as well | 12:34 |
| Langjan | yes | 12:34 |
| Langjan | it even asks if I want to import any docs/settings from win xp!! | 12:35 |
| Kilos-- | lol | 12:35 |
| Langjan | Looks like microsoft and linux have decided to bury the hatchet | 12:35 |
| Langjan | same unrecoverable error | 12:36 |
| Kilos-- | oh my | 12:36 |
| Langjan | ubuntu does not like this hdd | 12:36 |
| Kilos-- | ok last chance | 12:36 |
| Kilos-- | go back to gparted | 12:37 |
| Kilos-- | delete root 35g | 12:37 |
| Kilos-- | make it 33g | 12:37 |
| Kilos-- | hen make /boot with that spare 2g | 12:37 |
| Kilos-- | if that doesnt work then drive is win only scrap | 12:38 |
| Kilos-- | sigh | 12:38 |
| Kilos-- | bushtech thats so sad | 12:39 |
| Kilos-- | tomorrow you can get thehurd guy to wke them up | 12:39 |
| Kilos-- | wake | 12:39 |
| bushtech | yep if it still sucks tomorrow I'll talk to him | 12:40 |
| Kilos-- | hat kind of loss is totally unacceptable | 12:41 |
| Kilos-- | whew so many tpos today | 12:42 |
| Kilos-- | typos | 12:42 |
| Kilos-- | Langjan shout if you need help | 12:42 |
| Langjan | thks Kilos-- | 12:42 |
| === Kilos-- is now known as Kilos | ||
| Langjan | Will 14.04 make any difference? | 12:43 |
| Kilos | shouldnt but you can try | 12:43 |
| Kilos | that drive is unhappy | 12:44 |
| Langjan | ok lets go with your last try first | 12:44 |
| Kilos | not up to linux specs | 12:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:44 |
| Langjan | ubi partman error again | 12:44 |
| Kilos | where did that drive come from | 12:44 |
| Langjan | from me | 12:45 |
| Kilos | did it give trouble | 12:45 |
| Langjan | cant remember | 12:45 |
| Langjan | been lying around quite a while | 12:46 |
| Kilos | ok | 12:46 |
| Kilos | what size ssd you got? | 12:46 |
| Langjan | 120gb | 12:47 |
| Kilos | ah same | 12:47 |
| Langjan | I see 240gb now cheaper than what I paid at R1 200 | 12:48 |
| Kilos | wow | 12:48 |
| Kilos | price? | 12:48 |
| Kilos | i shouldnt ask even' | 12:48 |
| Langjan | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/business/161544-takealot-daily-deals-price-check.html | 12:48 |
| Kilos | ai! dit bly maar duur | 12:50 |
| Kilos | have you rebooted | 12:50 |
| Langjan | trying its not boooting from dvd, tried 14.04, now back to 12.04 on cd | 12:51 |
| Langjan | booting... | 12:51 |
| Langjan | showed a dirty window instead | 12:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:52 |
| Langjan | ok going to try ubuntu option again? | 12:52 |
| Kilos | ok | 12:53 |
| Kilos | the try option has an install goodie top left of screen normally | 12:54 |
| Kilos | so when done with gparted you just click that | 12:54 |
| Kilos | twice i think | 12:54 |
| Langjan | yes thats what I did just now | 12:55 |
| Kilos | this time first do gparted | 12:55 |
| Kilos | oh my gonna need some thinking i think | 12:56 |
| Kilos | something comes up different somewhere | 12:56 |
| Kilos | zipper mail sent, ill wait for her reply | 12:57 |
| Langjan | ok gparted is open, shows unallocated 2gb? | 12:59 |
| Langjan | and all the others of course | 12:59 |
| Kilos | yay | 12:59 |
| Kilos | tick partition then new | 13:00 |
| Kilos | then mountpoint /boot | 13:00 |
| Langjan | highlighting where? | 13:00 |
| Kilos | just apply then close gparted | 13:01 |
| Kilos | then click the install goodie | 13:01 |
| Langjan | partition is not live to click | 13:01 |
| Langjan | to click new | 13:02 |
| Kilos | oh the 2g one | 13:02 |
| Kilos | have you deleted root | 13:02 |
| Kilos | th 35g | 13:02 |
| Kilos | there are always bits unallocated. i dunno what secrets lie in there | 13:03 |
| Langjan | no mount point - thats again where you lost me yestarday | 13:03 |
| Kilos | did you delete root | 13:03 |
| Kilos | the 35gig | 13:03 |
| Kilos | then first make a new /root of 33g | 13:04 |
| Langjan | no | 13:04 |
| Kilos | then that unallocated 2g you use for /boot | 13:04 |
| Langjan | what must I doo first? | 13:04 |
| Kilos | delete 35g | 13:05 |
| Langjan | youre losing me | 13:05 |
| Kilos | and apply | 13:05 |
| Langjan | its now 32, thats where the other 2 came from | 13:05 |
| Kilos | but is someother thing | 13:06 |
| Kilos | i dunno where that cme from | 13:06 |
| Langjan | unable to delete | 13:06 |
| Kilos | if you made it 35g how did it become 32g | 13:06 |
| Langjan | some story about deleting numbers lower than 5 | 13:06 |
| Langjan | you tell me | 13:06 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:06 |
| === MaNL is now known as MaNI | ||
| Kilos | delete the 32gig | 13:06 |
| Langjan | it wont delete | 13:07 |
| Kilos | holy moly | 13:07 |
| Kilos | close gparted and tick install | 13:07 |
| Kilos | the we see what patman says | 13:08 |
| Kilos | parman | 13:08 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:08 |
| Kilos | partman | 13:08 |
| Langjan | it says unmount logical partitions having a nomber higher than 5 | 13:08 |
| Kilos | im sure this keyboard is jumping around | 13:08 |
| Kilos | yes | 13:08 |
| Langjan | were gonna go around in circles with same errors aagin | 13:10 |
| Kilos | didnt you start with a 15g drive there | 13:11 |
| Langjan | ? | 13:11 |
| Kilos | dunno | 13:12 |
| Langjan | me, 15g? | 13:12 |
| Kilos | somehwere in memory is something about a 15g dive | 13:12 |
| Kilos | did it have no drive | 13:12 |
| Langjan | memory corrupt | 13:12 |
| Kilos | or you tried no other drive | 13:12 |
| Langjan | no | 13:12 |
| Kilos | maybe i dreamed it | 13:13 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:13 |
| Kilos | im going mal | 13:13 |
| Kilos | maller | 13:13 |
| Langjan | lmga | 13:13 |
| Langjan | dis die dom van die ouderdom ou vrind | 13:13 |
| Kilos | this is disappointing man | 13:13 |
| Kilos | ja | 13:13 |
| Kilos | if you werent so far you could fetch a drive | 13:14 |
| Langjan | yes, thanks | 13:14 |
| Kilos | i got a few 80g that still work | 13:14 |
| Langjan | maybe when I go to the kids again, or my son may be coming thro this week | 13:15 |
| Kilos | ok there no rush from tannes side | 13:15 |
| Kilos | sorry oom | 13:16 |
| Langjan | funny thing, this gparted is showing 55+94+3+58+32+3 GB | 13:16 |
| Langjan | gone crazy | 13:17 |
| Kilos | only one out | 13:17 |
| Langjan | and added 100GB to drive? | 13:17 |
| Kilos | huh | 13:17 |
| Langjan | bobbejaantjie se huh | 13:17 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 13:17 |
| Langjan | lmga | 13:18 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 13:18 |
| Kilos | dlete everything except ntfs | 13:18 |
| Langjan | oh sorry, it shows dev/sda2 then the breakdown | 13:19 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:19 |
| Kilos | delete everything but not ntfs | 13:19 |
| Kilos | now all the new ones we make you tick the forma block | 13:20 |
| Langjan | it will only delete the 60gb | 13:20 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:20 |
| Kilos | what 60g | 13:20 |
| Kilos | that drive is sick | 13:21 |
| Kilos | try install xp on the whole thing | 13:21 |
| Langjan | ok 58 gb that we partitioned | 13:21 |
| Kilos | oh | 13:22 |
| Kilos | dont mix my brain more | 13:22 |
| Kilos | all you must see is ntfs and lots of unallocated space | 13:22 |
| Kilos | dont forget to hit apply | 13:23 |
| Langjan | no it shows ntfs and then three others all under dev/sda2 | 13:23 |
| Langjan | and wont delete any of the others | 13:24 |
| Kilos | holy smokes | 13:24 |
| Kilos | what you doing there | 13:24 |
| Langjan | whatever you tell me boss | 13:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:25 |
| Kilos | nee man | 13:25 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:25 |
| Kilos | do you know fixmbr and fixboot | 13:26 |
| Langjan | are they south africans? | 13:28 |
| Kilos | hahahaha | 13:28 |
| Kilos | it commands you use in xp | 13:28 |
| bushtech | Langjan: http://www.sitepoint.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-using-gparted-to-partition-a-hard-disk/ | 13:28 |
| Kilos | you have a go bushtech im sure that drive is too messed for linux use | 13:32 |
| bushtech | not my strong point. thats why I rather follow instructions | 13:33 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:33 |
| bushtech | just reading the irc has got me confused | 13:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:34 |
| mazal | New drive. Done | 13:35 |
| bushtech | bad blocks came up clean? | 13:35 |
| Kilos | my first few years on ubuntu was all on revived scrap drives so i worked my own way out | 13:35 |
| Kilos | pc hung | 13:35 |
| bushtech | hmmm | 13:36 |
| Kilos | not often a drive wont let linux partition it | 13:36 |
| bushtech | ssd? | 13:36 |
| Kilos | no | 13:36 |
| bushtech | ah ok | 13:37 |
| Kilos | spinning one | 13:37 |
| bushtech | ssd's worry me | 13:37 |
| Kilos | i love this one | 13:37 |
| Kilos | and it too was a discard from a windows machine | 13:37 |
| Kilos | lekker fast | 13:37 |
| bushtech | I love mine too but it had a bad block from early on | 13:38 |
| Kilos | are you using trim | 13:38 |
| Kilos | i forget what all is involved | 13:38 |
| bushtech | nope | 13:38 |
| Kilos | theblazehen helped me | 13:39 |
| bushtech | just left it | 13:39 |
| Kilos | Maaz using trim for ssd on ubuntu | 13:39 |
| Maaz | Kilos: What? | 13:39 |
| bushtech | maybe stoopid | 13:39 |
| Langjan | Trim comes standard with Intel but is apparently important | 13:39 |
| Kilos | maaz google using trim for ssd on ubuntu | 13:39 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "ssd - How is Trim enabled? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/443761/how-is-trim-enabled :: "On ubuntu 14.04 how do you check if TRIM is on for an SSD drive ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/572240/on-ubuntu-14-04-how-do-you-check-if-trim-is-on-for-an-ssd-drive :: "Ubuntu Doesn't TRIM SSDs By Default: Why Not and How To ..." | 13:39 |
| Maaz | http://www.howtogeek.com/176978/ubuntu-doesnt-trim-ssds-by-default-why-not-and-how-to-enable-it-yourself/ :: … | 13:39 |
| Kilos | ssds work a bit different | 13:40 |
| Kilos | only prob with ssds is size and price | 13:40 |
| Langjan | Kilos, im just gonna let the tannie pplay with win xp until we get another drive | 13:41 |
| Kilos | ok Langjan | 13:41 |
| Kilos | you should then install xp on the whole drive | 13:41 |
| Kilos | spose 56g is enough | 13:42 |
| Langjan | yes more than enough | 13:42 |
| Kilos | ok just open my computer | 13:42 |
| Kilos | right click on c: and choose properties | 13:43 |
| Kilos | then tools and have it check the filesystem | 13:43 |
| Langjan | you addressing me Kilos ? | 13:43 |
| Kilos | yessitr | 13:43 |
| Langjan | ok on win xp? | 13:43 |
| Kilos | no one else here has a c: drive in front of him | 13:43 |
| Kilos | ya | 13:44 |
| Kilos | then we know she is at least getting a good xp | 13:44 |
| Langjan | no C drive, only F | 13:47 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:48 |
| Kilos | nee man reinstall xp | 13:48 |
| Kilos | let it use the whole drive | 13:48 |
| Kilos | win without a C: drive sounds crazy | 13:49 |
| Kilos | i need to sleep, shout if you need help oom | 13:55 |
| Langjan | fine thks Kilos slaap lekker | 14:03 |
| Kilos | call anytime | 14:04 |
| Kilos | good luck | 14:04 |
| mazal | Any of the Kubuntu specialists around ? | 15:43 |
| mazal | superfly, inetpro ? | 15:44 |
| mazal | Hi pavlushka | 15:53 |
| pavlushka | Hello mazal! | 15:53 |
| pavlushka | mazal, can you smell Kilos ! | 15:53 |
| mazal | No he's been gone a while | 15:54 |
| Kilos | haha | 15:54 |
| Kilos | i just woke up | 15:54 |
| mazal | wb oom | 15:54 |
| Kilos | ty | 15:54 |
| Kilos | need another 8 hours sleep | 15:54 |
| Kilos | sigh | 15:54 |
| mazal | Late night meeting ? | 15:55 |
| Kilos | no just couldnt get to sleep | 15:55 |
| Kilos | slept about 2 hours | 15:55 |
| * mazal needs advice re Kubuntu | 15:55 | |
| Kilos | ok | 15:55 |
| mazal | I want te get started with the re-install ( cos I have the time now ) | 15:56 |
| Kilos | you should be giving me advice | 15:56 |
| Kilos | go on | 15:56 |
| mazal | So was wondering , is it ok to installl beta 2 now and upgrade to final when it release ? Or should I rather wait for final | 15:56 |
| mazal | Talking 16.04 here | 15:57 |
| Kilos | i would wait but thats me | 15:57 |
| superfly | mazal: I'm already on 16.04 on both my Kubuntu machines | 15:57 |
| mazal | superfly, so it's fine if I do it ? No issues I should be aware of ? | 15:57 |
| superfly | none that I have seen | 15:57 |
| mazal | How easy is the upgrade to final , does it comes in updates or will I have to do something extra for that ? | 15:58 |
| superfly | you just update | 15:58 |
| mazal | k thanx | 15:58 |
| Kilos | see you must ask the up to date guys | 15:59 |
| mazal | Prepared everything the whole day ( backups etc.) and want to get going. | 15:59 |
| mazal | Have the time now this few days and am bored anyway | 16:00 |
| Kilos | go for it then | 16:00 |
| Kilos | hi pavlushka | 16:00 |
| superfly | next time I reinstall it'll be Debian | 16:00 |
| mazal | Lemme find the iso download | 16:00 |
| Kilos | why superfly | 16:00 |
| pavlushka | Hi Kilos ! | 16:00 |
| superfly | Kilos: because Kubuntu is rough around the edges | 16:01 |
| Kilos | better than ubuntu? | 16:01 |
| superfly | and then you get stuck with those rough edges for 6 months | 16:01 |
| superfly | I run Debian unstable, so I have a rolling release | 16:01 |
| Kilos | ok | 16:01 |
| Kilos | ill wait the 6 months | 16:02 |
| superfly | so I get the upgrades, but when they're ready | 16:02 |
| Kilos | maybe ill get debian if i get to aus | 16:02 |
| mazal | superfly, have a good link for beta 2 maybe ? Mine hangs | 16:02 |
| Kilos | cant do it here | 16:03 |
| superfly | mazal: uh, I upgraded, I didn't reinstall | 16:03 |
| superfly | what's your link? | 16:03 |
| mazal | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/beta-2/ | 16:03 |
| mazal | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/beta-2/kubuntu-16.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso | 16:03 |
| mazal | That's the one I try , but not starting | 16:04 |
| superfly | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/beta-2/ | 16:04 |
| pavlushka | try the daily iso's | 16:04 |
| superfly | hrm, ok | 16:04 |
| pavlushka | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20160416/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso, might work for you.mazal | 16:05 |
| superfly | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/beta-2/kubuntu-16.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso | 16:06 |
| superfly | ^^ that works for me | 16:06 |
| superfly | getting it at 1MB/s too | 16:06 |
| pavlushka | hello debian superfly!!!! | 16:06 |
| superfly | mazal: have you tried the torrent, that's soemtimes even faster | 16:06 |
| superfly | hi pavlushka | 16:06 |
| pavlushka | I am just telling him a workaround if the main link does not work for him. | 16:07 |
| pavlushka | so when you are switching to debian superfly !, so eager to see. | 16:07 |
| pavlushka | mazal, I think its best for you, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/beta-2/kubuntu-16.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent | 16:08 |
| mazal | The normal works now thanx | 16:09 |
| pavlushka | ah! | 16:09 |
| superfly | pavlushka: on my main desktop PC I already use Debian (been using it for a few years) | 16:11 |
| superfly | pavlushka: I'm part of the team organising DebCon16 | 16:11 |
| superfly | pavlushka: and to be honest, L/X/K/Ubuntu is not that different to Debian | 16:12 |
| pavlushka | superfly: and when you will discard Kubuntu then, :) and yes its all .deb | 16:12 |
| superfly | pavlushka: on my netbook: when my SSD arrives | 16:13 |
| superfly | on my work PC: not sure, maybe never | 16:13 |
| superfly | just don't have the bandwidth to throw away hours into a reinstall | 16:13 |
| pavlushka | superfly: I see you are trying very hard to leave kubuntu thats why you are running thw development version!!!!!! | 16:13 |
| pavlushka | * two dev versions of kubuntu! | 16:14 |
| pavlushka | ^^ | 16:14 |
| superfly | pavlushka: um, ya, whatever | 16:14 |
| pavlushka | lol | 16:14 |
| superfly | pavlushka: the only person saying that I'm trying very hard to leave Kubuntu is you. | 16:17 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:17 |
| mazal | Ok dl will take some time. Dinner it is then | 16:18 |
| pavlushka | yes, to dinner! | 16:18 |
| superfly | mazal: direct, or torrent? | 16:18 |
| superfly | (out of interest) | 16:18 |
| mazal | Direct , I don't use torrents as a rule | 16:19 |
| pavlushka | superfly: direct | 16:19 |
| pavlushka | mazal, it is safer | 16:19 |
| superfly | mazal: I usually download the torrent, it's usually much faster for me | 16:19 |
| pavlushka | and no download failure or data corruption | 16:19 |
| pavlushka | If i had to choose, i would alway choose torrent if thats possible. | 16:21 |
| pavlushka | *always | 16:22 |
| pavlushka | hello bushtech ! | 16:22 |
| pavlushka | bushtech: you are out of the bush again? | 16:23 |
| pavlushka | sorry, bad joke. bushtech ! | 16:24 |
| bushtech_ | heh | 16:24 |
| bushtech_ | grrr | 16:24 |
| pavlushka | I smell cat here. | 16:25 |
| bushtech_ | mtn been sucky all day | 16:26 |
| Kilos | hurfy gurdy man has work tomorrow | 16:34 |
| Kilos | hurdy | 16:35 |
| bushtech_ | whatsup | 16:35 |
| Kilos | your connection | 16:35 |
| pavlushka | lol | 16:36 |
| Kilos | dunno how afrihost get mtn to do anything | 16:36 |
| bushtech_ | no it's down :) | 16:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:36 |
| Kilos | i feel for you | 16:36 |
| Kilos | been there done that | 16:36 |
| bushtech_ | thanks | 16:36 |
| Kilos | and fought with them all | 16:37 |
| bushtech_ | btdt with voda too | 16:37 |
| bushtech_ | hoping mtn better but portents not good | 16:37 |
| Kilos | maybe if afrihost pushes them it will help more than some sucker on the other end of a cell | 16:38 |
| bushtech_ | hope so | 16:39 |
| Kilos | helpdesks are painful to use | 16:39 |
| bushtech_ | still waiting on them for tower location | 16:39 |
| Kilos | they always start by tryig to get you to check your settings | 16:39 |
| bushtech_ | btdt | 16:39 |
| Kilos | whats that? | 16:40 |
| bushtech_ | umpteen times | 16:40 |
| Kilos | oh | 16:40 |
| Kilos | i tell them now i have 2 pcs right in front of me with each its own modem and they both worked well before | 16:41 |
| Kilos | problem not here its on your side | 16:41 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 16:43 |
| superfly | bushtech_: I'm not sure where you are, but in Cape Town Vodacom always has the best signal | 16:48 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:10 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 17:12 |
| Kilos | wb inetpro | 17:12 |
| inetpro | back? | 17:12 |
| inetpro | from where? | 17:12 |
| Kilos | well you havent said anything here for days | 17:13 |
| Kilos | so wb from wherever | 17:13 |
| inetpro | doesn't mean I'm gone anywhere | 17:13 |
| inetpro | I was here all the time | 17:14 |
| Kilos | wb to #ubuntu-za | 17:14 |
| Kilos | jaja | 17:14 |
| Kilos | ty bouncer | 17:14 |
| * inetpro just chose to ignore everyone | 17:14 | |
| pavlushka | morning inetpro ! | 17:14 |
| Kilos | what!! | 17:14 |
| inetpro | it's weekend after all | 17:15 |
| Kilos | dit sal nie deug nie | 17:15 |
| Kilos | oh | 17:15 |
| Kilos | can i also have weekends off | 17:15 |
| bushtech_ | superfly: I'm at Vaalkopdam between Brits and Thabazimbi | 17:17 |
| Kilos | inetpro why are you always grumpy lately | 17:41 |
| * inetpro grumpy? Never! | 17:41 | |
| Kilos | take a pill and chill | 17:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: relax oom | 17:42 |
| Kilos | did you really change your surname to strydom | 17:42 |
| mazal | Shees dl taking forever | 17:44 |
| mazal | hi inetpro | 17:44 |
| pavlushka | Goodnight guys! | 17:57 |
| Kilos | night pavlushka | 17:57 |
| Kilos | sleep well | 17:57 |
| pavlushka | you too.! | 17:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I was/am just busy with other stuffs man, sorry | 18:01 |
| Kilos | im teasing man | 18:01 |
| inetpro | haha, ok | 18:02 |
| mazal | Yeah dl is finished :) | 18:02 |
| inetpro | almost got worried because oom Kilos is so worried | 18:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:02 |
| Kilos | oh mhall says anyone is welcome to translate tht game to other languages | 18:03 |
| inetpro | obviously, it's open source... I hope | 18:03 |
| Kilos | yes | 18:03 |
| Kilos | open something | 18:03 |
| Kilos | i forget now | 18:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you can also help superfly to translate his project also | 18:04 |
| Kilos | to what language | 18:04 |
| Kilos | englikaans | 18:05 |
| mazal | Ok I'm off , gonna start the install. Sleep well for those I don't see again | 18:16 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:36 |
| inetpro | good night ki[tab], maza[tab] | 18:41 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:41 |
| mazal | I like the look , nice :) | 18:59 |
| mazal | Waiting on updates now | 19:00 |
| mazal | Hi magespawn | 19:02 |
| mazal | superfly,you here maybe ? | 20:25 |
| mazal | nvm , come right | 20:26 |
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