[05:01] morning everyone [05:02] Maaz tell langjan install any windows on the first 36g, lets see if that works, then we partition the rest for ubuntu [05:02] Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode [05:46] good morning [05:46] hi magespawn [05:46] hi Wolfeyes [05:53] well that chased him away [05:53] lol [06:00] most likely woke him, so he did like with an alarm off button on a clock [06:00] hit it till it shuts up [06:33] Kilos: Hey [06:33] How'd it go? [06:33] hi zipper [06:33] i wanted to talk to you first [07:09] Mornings [07:32] hi mazal [07:33] More oom , gaanit daar ? [07:33] ok dankie en jy [07:33] goed goed , niks probleme [07:38] ek net moeg [07:38] min geslaap [07:38] weet nie hoekom nie [07:44] hdd nagmerries :P === thatgraemeguy_ is now known as thatgraemeguy [09:20] Hello Kilos-- [09:20] Sorry I have so many things I'm multitasking. [09:21] Hello Kilos-- and guys [09:21] Yes just do the deed, stop worrying. [09:21] hi jan__ [09:22] Lekker geslaap? [09:22] sleg eintlik [09:22] I explained everything to the best of my ability even showing the log you linked me to. [09:22] Kilos--: :) [09:22] ai! jammer, hoekom? [09:23] cool ty zipper [09:24] Kilos--: I actually expected you to do it yesterday. [09:24] But it's all good as long as you're on schedule I assume. [09:24] i was busy trying to help the old uncle [09:25] Ai, jammer! [09:25] yes i only got contact from michael just now [09:25] wanted to hear how he wanted to do it as well [09:26] Why does this thing keep logging me in as jan__? [09:26] jan__ what have you achieved [09:26] Kilos--: It's cool [09:26] /nick Langjan [09:26] Oh I see [09:26] setting up win xp on 56Gb [09:26] thks [09:26] is it working === jan__ is now known as Langjan [09:27] Formatting at the moment [09:27] lets hope [09:27] i forgot all about that way [09:27] It forgot the bios at last, had to re-setup boot order [09:28] i said often here i found something win is useful for [09:28] oh, you now got a better way? [09:28] useful for plugging holes [09:28] yes use win to use up bad disk space [09:28] Good idea [09:28] linux much more sensitive to drive probs [09:30] maybe we should even add a boot partiton as well then linux is all seperate [09:31] Eks in jou hande, slawedrywer [09:32] lol [09:32] Doing slow format, its on 81% [09:32] yeah ms doesnt formay fas like linux [09:32] fast [09:33] Blitsboks lost to Fiji in great semifinal [09:33] were two options, I chose slow one [09:33] ok [09:33] 91% [09:43] Win setup completion eta 12:15 [09:44] yay [09:44] those are microsoft minutes... [09:44] lmga [09:45] lol [09:46] Have you guys used letsencrypt? [09:46] nope [09:46] SMH I have soooo much to do :( [09:47] I have so much code to write, blog posts to write, books and docs to read. [09:47] The perils of getting into a new ecosystem [09:48] ai! [09:48] Kilos--: ai? [09:48] whew [09:48] so much to do [10:02] what sound do you guys make for that zipper [10:11] LOL I don't even know what sound you just made there [10:11] The closest thing I can think of is "aye" [10:11] sounds like eye just sharper [10:12] can be used when shocked or surprized or frustrated [10:12] Langjan you winning? [10:13] Kilos--: hahaha yes there is that sound. [10:13] 14 mins long gone [10:13] lol [10:13] Kilos--: :D [10:13] I just didn't expect it to come from you :) [10:13] :D [10:13] hahaha why not [10:13] Kilos--: I thought it was a Kenyan thing or a Swahili thing. [10:13] 3 minutes [10:14] 1 [10:14] maybe its an all africa thing [10:15] Maybe [10:15] Langjan just reboot it twice after it has done so we can see if the boot sector is happt [10:15] happy [10:16] pity you made it so large though [10:17] OK Win xp up and running [10:17] reboot twice more [10:17] or once [10:17] and one shutdown and then boot [10:18] Win booting fine [10:18] ok now boot from buntu cd [10:19] and go the try option [10:20] Is try the way to normally go or just because of the hiccups? [10:20] try lets you make your own partitions [10:20] with gparted [10:21] ok [10:26] you also use try when you want to repair things in a drive that isnt booting properly [10:27] i havent had that for a while though [10:29] Ok ubuntu running and gparted open [10:31] shows win partition and 93GB sda2 and 7 Gb unallocated and two small ones, 1000mb each, sda 3 and linux swap [10:32] you there Kilos-- ? [10:33] yessir [10:35] ok what do you want to do with the partitions? [10:35] you see the htfs one [10:35] thats win [10:35] below must be 100g [10:35] no, only ntfs [10:36] unallocated [10:36] ya ntfs [10:36] sorry [10:36] the ntfs is where win xp is [10:36] yes [10:36] so have you got ovder 100g spare? [10:37] yes [10:37] how much [10:37] tick on it then tick partitions and tick new [10:38] 93 gb sda2, 7 gb unallocated, 1gb sda3 extended and 1gb linux swap [10:38] tick on which it? [10:38] delete them lets get a totsl [10:39] dont delete ntfs [10:40] ok now I have 93 GB unallocated and the two small ones [10:40] delete swap as well [10:40] too small [10:40] it wont [10:40] sigh ok then [10:41] just a sec, did not apply [10:42] ok still the same, 93gb unallocated the small ones wiont delete [10:42] ok we use the 93 [10:42] the 7gb has disappeared to somewhere [10:42] lol [10:43] ok tick the 93g [10:43] then tick partition then new [10:43] ok its 95gb [10:44] max [10:44] ok now use 35g and mountpoint / [10:44] and tick the format block [10:44] then apply [10:45] 35g and mountpoint? lost me [10:46] when you tick new it opens a window [10:46] with size available and moint point near the bottom [10:47] in mount point is a small triangle on the right [10:47] tick it and first thing you see is / [10:47] thats your root partition [10:48] nothing like that here [10:48] huh [10:48] did you tick the unallocated [10:49] Yes, thats what you said. why cant I just install ubuntu to dual boot? [10:49] because it will install in the 56g [10:49] Wont it ask to install alongside? Liek it normally does? [10:49] and hopefully thats where the bad parts are only [10:50] nope [10:50] it will go in the 56 [10:50] you can try it [10:50] Sorry gotta go, otherwise cold food and hot wife [10:50] but im sure it will want to resize the 56g [10:50] ok enjoy [10:50] i eat soon too [10:51] ok lekker eet [10:51] check you later [10:51] ok [10:51] dankie [10:57] my way it is still alongside but using the freespace [10:57] if you want to do the conventional alongside you install xp on the whole drive then let ubuntu install alongside [10:58] and it will resize [11:06] hi Cryterion [11:06] oh Langjan it will still dual boot this way [11:08] hi [11:20] mmmmmm now that was a lekker lunch. Mac & cheese , lamb chops and boerewors [12:07] You there Kilos-- ? [12:07] yessir [12:07] you eat lots hey [12:08] have you read up what i said [12:08] We had a guest. [12:08] im teasing man [12:09] Yes. Ok thks, I'm in installation, its wanting to create a new partition on the 100gb free space, which option? [12:09] for mount point [12:09] oh [12:09] / [12:10] thats for the 35g right [12:10] ok is that it? no for 100gb [12:10] nee man [12:10] what is the 35 gb for? [12:10] you need a root partition and a /home partition [12:10] root [12:11] why? never had that [12:11] yes because you let the os decide what will be what size [12:11] here we decide [12:11] but remember you have told me [12:11] like the 1g ram is too small [12:12] ok tell [12:12] ok so I select / [12:12] and 35 gb [12:12] yes [12:12] and ext4 i think [12:12] and ext 4? [12:13] might already be there [12:13] and tick the format little block [12:13] then apply [12:14] at the end of the install it will run update-grub and that will lett you dual boot with xp [12:15] itsnot formatting, did format in try phase, is that why? [12:15] it wont format yet [12:15] Im not in try phase, its the installation [12:15] it will format it when you go on if that format block is ticked [12:16] oh [12:16] ok so what next [12:16] ok [12:16] tick free space [12:16] unallocated area [12:16] should be 60g [12:16] yes 66 [12:17] now primary or logical? [12:17] ok tick pertition then new [12:17] then mount point /home [12:17] yes now primary or logical [12:17] let it decide [12:18] and location beginning or end? [12:18] it will have the default choice already there [12:18] logical i think it shows [12:18] end [12:18] win is in the beginning [12:18] yes shows logical [12:18] go with it [12:19] ok it showed beginning but also did recognise windows [12:19] you see mountpoint /home [12:19] yes [12:19] and ext4 [12:19] yes [12:19] good then apply [12:19] then install [12:19] ext 4 journalling file system [12:19] yes [12:20] ext4 is less liely to be damaged by power cuts than any other [12:20] likely [12:20] hi bushtech [12:20] dag kilos [12:20] my internet is better again [12:21] it wants me to consider swap area [12:21] doesnt it see that swap [12:21] I deleted it [12:21] you said it wouldnt [12:21] lol [12:21] Kilos--: mtn very bad here today mtr shows one conn as 98% loss [12:21] ok [12:22] delete /home again [12:22] it was the original 1gb that you wanted me to fdelete [12:22] ok we make swap no [12:22] ok done [12:22] now [12:22] now? [12:22] tick the unallocated [12:22] then partition [12:22] free space [12:22] 66 gb [12:23] then make size 3g [12:23] then [12:23] in the block a bov mountpoint i think you can choose swap area [12:24] if its not there its in mountpoint [12:24] im running on memory [12:24] thats bad bushtech [12:24] swap area created [12:24] have you tried your afrihost [12:25] ok then tick unalocated again [12:25] me? [12:25] long on afrihost [12:25] then mountpoint /home [12:25] nee man bushtech met sy mtn [12:25] oh my [12:26] afrihost is on mtn [12:26] this is on afrihost [12:26] yep [12:26] afrihost uses mtn [12:26] fone them and complain [12:26] i forgot man [12:26] ok now install? [12:26] get mixed up with cellc and voda [12:26] I'd rather slit my wrists than try and fone from here [12:27] yes Langjan hit install [12:27] and run [12:27] device for boot loader installation is the whole hdd [12:27] might explode [12:27] yes [12:27] then it will share win boot sector [12:28] moenie spot nie, jy het gister gesien wat kan gebeur [12:28] if that gives trouble we make a seperate /boot [12:28] haha [12:28] ok the /dev/sda above the partitions is highlighted, that ok? [12:29] im lost [12:29] did it highlight itself [12:29] device shows dev/sda, the below is list of partitions [12:29] yes hit install [12:30] does where it is highlighted now determine where installation will take place?e [12:30] i dont think so [12:30] did you highlight it [12:30] perhaps highlight 63gb too be safe? [12:30] no it was there [12:30] no 35 [12:31] im sure it knows what goes whewre [12:31] where [12:31] very hard working on memory [12:31] sda is the whole drive [12:31] ok so 35 but i think youre right anyway [12:32] hit it [12:32] install lets se [12:32] e [12:32] ai! [12:32] where am I? [12:32] i dunno [12:33] at home i think [12:33] not in the kitchen or dining room anymore [12:33] It said S Africa so I went with it... [12:33] duh [12:33] now its a standard install [12:34] put tannies name and good password as well [12:34] yes [12:35] it even asks if I want to import any docs/settings from win xp!! [12:35] lol [12:35] Looks like microsoft and linux have decided to bury the hatchet [12:36] same unrecoverable error [12:36] oh my [12:36] ubuntu does not like this hdd [12:36] ok last chance [12:37] go back to gparted [12:37] delete root 35g [12:37] make it 33g [12:37] hen make /boot with that spare 2g [12:38] if that doesnt work then drive is win only scrap [12:38] sigh [12:39] bushtech thats so sad [12:39] tomorrow you can get thehurd guy to wke them up [12:39] wake [12:40] yep if it still sucks tomorrow I'll talk to him [12:41] hat kind of loss is totally unacceptable [12:42] whew so many tpos today [12:42] typos [12:42] Langjan shout if you need help [12:42] thks Kilos-- === Kilos-- is now known as Kilos [12:43] Will 14.04 make any difference? [12:43] shouldnt but you can try [12:44] that drive is unhappy [12:44] ok lets go with your last try first [12:44] not up to linux specs [12:44] lol [12:44] ubi partman error again [12:44] where did that drive come from [12:45] from me [12:45] did it give trouble [12:45] cant remember [12:46] been lying around quite a while [12:46] ok [12:46] what size ssd you got? [12:47] 120gb [12:47] ah same [12:48] I see 240gb now cheaper than what I paid at R1 200 [12:48] wow [12:48] price? [12:48] i shouldnt ask even' [12:48] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/business/161544-takealot-daily-deals-price-check.html [12:50] ai! dit bly maar duur [12:50] have you rebooted [12:51] trying its not boooting from dvd, tried 14.04, now back to 12.04 on cd [12:51] booting... [12:52] showed a dirty window instead [12:52] lol [12:52] ok going to try ubuntu option again? [12:53] ok [12:54] the try option has an install goodie top left of screen normally [12:54] so when done with gparted you just click that [12:54] twice i think [12:55] yes thats what I did just now [12:55] this time first do gparted [12:56] oh my gonna need some thinking i think [12:56] something comes up different somewhere [12:57] zipper mail sent, ill wait for her reply [12:59] ok gparted is open, shows unallocated 2gb? [12:59] and all the others of course [12:59] yay [13:00] tick partition then new [13:00] then mountpoint /boot [13:00] highlighting where? [13:01] just apply then close gparted [13:01] then click the install goodie [13:01] partition is not live to click [13:02]