[00:10] <shanemikel> anybody else have strange things happen with dp1.2 daisy chain?
[00:24] <frank__> hello
[00:25] <BenderRodriguez> oh hello there fractal
[00:25] <BenderRodriguez> FrankZZ,
[00:25] <BenderRodriguez> oh
[00:25] <BenderRodriguez> he quit
[00:26] <shanemikel> somebody feel like helping me debug my display setup?
[00:27] <BenderRodriguez> just ask your question
[00:27] <raven-noir> yeah ask it
[00:28] <shanemikel> strange error on login with DP1.2 Daisy Chain.  It didn't happen till I switched from DP + HDMI to DP chain..  I get an error message with a huge list of resolutions, and the resolution/orientation is messed up, but when I open the display settings menu (without changing anything) it gets fixed
[00:29] <shanemikel> I cant figure out how to copy the text from the error window, though
[00:32] <shanemikel> the monitors are rotated (one cw and the other ccw), and the res is 1920*1200 each.. the error msg says about CRTs, or somthing?
[00:33] <raven-noir> Which version of ubuntu are you usisng?
[00:33] <raven-noir> using*
[00:33] <shanemikel> 15.10
[00:33] <raven-noir> Oh.
[00:33] <shanemikel> just installed a couple days ago
[00:33] <raven-noir> Do you know the exact solution of your monitor?
[00:33] <raven-noir> resolution*
[00:33] <shanemikel> you mean native?
[00:34] <raven-noir> no
[00:34] <shanemikel> 1920*1200, and their both identical
[00:34] <raven-noir> ok
[00:34] <raven-noir> Go to system settings/ display
[00:34] <shanemikel> ok
[00:35] <raven-noir> one sec
[00:35] <raven-noir> i think i had the exact same problem
[00:36] <raven-noir> trying to remember the steps how i resolved
[00:36] <raven-noir> Is this a problem with using external monitors?
[00:37] <shanemikel> huh? it's a dual-head setup on a workstation computer.. and it was only a problem since I switched from using one via hdmi, and the other via DP cable, to the new DP daisy chain
[00:37] <shanemikel> where you connect the two monitors to eachother and only one to the video card
[00:38] <raven-noir> But only one monitor's resolutions mess up correct?
[00:39] <raven-noir> Have you tired the Xrandr command and modeset?
[00:39] <shanemikel> umm.. I think both, and when I initially log in, my rotation settings are messed up, but when I close the error dialogue and open the display settings it fixes itself (without my changing anything)
[00:40] <shanemikel> I haven't done anything with xrandr directly
[00:43] <shanemikel> or was that a suggestion?
[00:45] <raven-noir> More of a suggestion
[00:46] <raven-noir> If it is a problem with rotation issues I would check display settings, for screen resolutions xrandr
[00:46] <ubuntu_newbie> Hi, i just installed ubuntu today. After doing some changes, it won't start X anymore. It just hangs. Before I reboot, I was installing/compiling multiple librarries, then I removed the .tar and extracted folders as it complained I had only 200MB free. Rescue mode just hands as well after fsck which says "clean" . Any idea how I can figure out what went wrong ?
[00:48] <ubuntu_newbie> I can login from terminal 1 (F1). When I type startx, nothing happens either
[00:50] <ecojud> I have Windows 10 and two instances of ubuntu installed on my hdd.  I want to remove the newest ubuntu instance, but partitioning over it leaves no grub bootloader.  Can I remove my newer ubuntu OS and install grub to my older ubuntu OS and still expect to dual boot?
[00:51] <shanemikel> http://sprunge.us/TcKC <- that's the output of xrandr
[00:54] <shanemikel> so did raven-noir mean to boot with modeset=0 ?
[00:55] <shanemikel> well, I'm gonna try that
[00:58] <jayjo> My mouse (an apple magic mouse) that I"m using on ubuntu 1404 via bluetooth is too sensitive, even though the sensitivity is all the way down. Is there a way to lower it further?
[01:05] <ubuntu_newbie> So basically, how can I find out why X for my situation is not loading ?
[01:16] <shanemikel> that's annoying, I tried rebooting, I was gonna boot without modeset, and the grub menu doesn't update my display... I see it, but moving the keys around doesn't change the screen
[01:17] <shanemikel> am i missing a grub module?  I'm using skylake integrated graphics
[01:19] <new2Linux> why i can't install libcurl4-gnutls-devon my ubuntu 14.04
[01:20] <popey> new2Linux: what happens when you try?
[01:20] <new2Linux> it says there are unmet dependencies.what does that mean?
[01:21] <popey> can you pastebin the entire output ?
[01:21] <nobih> a
[01:21] <nobih> Hi
[01:23] <new2Linux> i am sorry i'm not able to do that now because i'm chatting on my cell phone so i'm away from my pc
[01:23] <zz> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[01:23] <popey> hard to help then, sorry.
[01:24] <new2Linux> i will do that tommorow i wish i will see you here
[01:25] <new2Linux> btw,where are you from ? i'm from middle east
[01:25] <popey> new2Linux: I'm sure someone will be around, if not, then you can always paste your answer at askubuntu.com and wait for an answer there
[01:25] <popey> new2Linux: UK :)
[01:25] <new2Linux> oh what a luck you are :)
[01:26] <new2Linux> lucky
[01:27] <new2Linux> why installing prpgrams on linux is very hard
[01:28] <new2Linux> although i hate windows but it's so easy when it comes to installing programs just dbl_click and wizard
[01:31] <new2Linux> i know that there are packages like *.rpm and *.deb but they are useless because you need to install a lot of dependencies
[01:31] <new2Linux> manually one by one
[01:31] <BenSolo> ./stepmania: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found (required by ./stepmania)
[01:31] <BenSolo> I have been googling for about an hour and tried a lot of things
[01:32] <BenSolo> One thing says to do a full dust upgrade.. I don't think all that is needed
[01:33] <shanemikel> okay, so I logged out and in again, after removing .config/monitors.xml, and My monitors started with only 1024*768 resolution, both of them (but no error).. and after a few seconds with the display settings open, the other resolutions popped up
[01:34] <squinty> BenSolo,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade     those two command don't upgrade to a newer ubuntu release version; they just upgrade the packages for your current installed ubuntu version
[01:34] <new2Linux> I've heared recently that Microsoft will include ubuntu user space and bash shell soon
[01:34] <shanemikel> So I guess that means it's related to the monitors reporting the available resolutions?
[01:35] <new2Linux> i hope that it's ture
[01:35] <dongforce> I am evading a ban on this channel
[01:36] <dongforce> Banning is hereby prohibited by the Elite Dong
[01:41] <BenSolo> squinty: yeah this forum was saying a dist-upgrade http://askubuntu.com/questions/306467/usr-lib-i386-linux-gnu-libstdc-so-6-version-glibcxx-3-4-19-not-found/306477#306477
[01:44] <xaxxon> anyone have any experience installing in vmware workstation?   I'm trying to figure out how to make it "work nice"... do I install "vmware tools"?  when I start doing that it tells me I should install something else?
[01:45] <xaxxon> also, does anyone know if I can get opengl working in vmware workstation?   I don't need great performance, but I need opengl 4.1 support.
[01:47] <xaxxon> when I run the instructions, the vmware tools script tells me I already have it installed, but I still get fixed resolution regardless of the vmware window size
[01:48] <dylan> can someone help me with my printer
[01:48] <dylan> ??
[01:48] <vervet> xaxxon: are you on workstation/player? you may need to adjust the client settings to get the native resolution, i forget what the settign is called
[01:48] <xaxxon> workstation.   I'll check it out
[01:48] <Blake> Hey guys. Could anyone help me install my printer drivers? I am able to use my scanner in Simple Scan but not to print.
[01:49] <dylan> im using elementary os its built on top of ubuntu im got my printer to get hooked up except my scanner it a hp envy 5530
[01:50] <xaxxon> vervet, it syas "you must update tools to enable 3d acceleration in this virtual machine"
[01:51] <xaxxon> I'm seeing some stuff online re: that message
[01:51] <xaxxon> checking it out
[01:51] <vervet> xaxxon: were you able to get the tools installed? you could either use the client's install or open-vm-tools
[01:52] <newbie> Hi, one of the errors I found during booting is not finding /dev/mapper/cryptswap1. Not sure if that's the reason of the X freezing or not. The log is not indicating anything useful. The rescue GUI mode is not bootin either. I can access the F1 terminal though
[01:52] <Blake> Anyone?
[01:53] <xaxxon> vervet, I used the vmware version where it mounts the "cd".   I run "sudo ./vmware-install.pl and it says "thie installer has detected an existing installation of open-vm-tools on this system and will not attempt to remove and replace these user-spoace applications..."
[01:53] <waters33637> Promox :
[01:53] <xaxxon> hrmm, mabye I have the wrong version... "for kernels >= 4.0.0 open-vm-tools needs to be version 1.0.0 or higher"... but I dont' kno whow to check
[01:54] <xaxxon> maybe I'll start over so I"m not in some weird config
[01:54] <shanemikel> okay, I'm still a little upset about my grub menu not responding, but I just changed the boot params to i915.modeset=0, and I didn't have the same problem, but my graphics were REALLY slow.. anyway, I removed that flag, and on a hunch waited for a few seconds after boot before logging in, and I didn't get the error
[01:54] <shanemikel> curious
[01:54] <shanemikel> ...
[01:55] <vervet> xaxxon: you could try dpkg -l | grep open-vm-tools
[01:55] <xaxxon> I'll check that out after I reinstall.    -- is it ok to do the "typical" "easy" installation?
[01:56] <xaxxon> and I'm usigin 15.10 -- I figure the newest is probably the most compatible
[01:56] <xaxxon> desktop 64
[01:56] <ecrofgnod> whats the difference from a practical standpoint between ubuntu and debian?
[01:56] <vervet> xaxxon: as far as creating a vm? I usually go through the steps but it should be ok
[01:57] <shanemikel> so, is it generally safe to "upgrade" to new ubuntu releases? I've never done a distro upgrade with a non rolling release linux, but I'm thinking I might give it a try with the next LTS
[01:57] <xaxxon> vervet, thanks for the help :)  had to return my mac laptop so I'm stuck on a window smachine until the next refresh... and trying to get a development environment up and running is proving challengine but I can't do a complete wipe/reinstall
[01:57] <vervet> xaxxon: by the way the setting should be "Use host setting for monitors"
[01:58] <xaxxon> noted.
[01:58] <vervet> xaxxon: and no worries :)
[01:59] <Blake> Is there anyone that can help me out please?
[02:00] <xaxxon> Blake, sorry :(  printers on linux is something I've never had much luck with
[02:00] <Blake> I understand.
[02:00] <xaxxon> Blake, really, windows seesm to be the only system with a sane print system.
[02:00] <xaxxon> even os x printing is quitew difficult in comparison
[02:00] <ugmoe2000_> Hey folks I never use IRC... so I don't really know the etiquette but I'll ask my question none-the-less... trying to rename interfaces via added udev rules without a reboot but udev never seems to read-in the new rules files or at least it doesn't apply the changes. Any ideas?
[02:00] <ugmoe2000_>  I've tried rmmod virtio_net; udevadm control --reload-rules; udevadm trigger --attr-match=subsystem=net;  but it keeps installing the old interface names
[02:02] <Blake> I downloaded the drivers from website but when I use them it gives me some msg that it was compiled for older ubuntu. Not sure. Anyways, I will have to experiment somehow.
[02:02] <vervet> ugmoe2000_: are you on systemd? you could try a systemctl restart systemd-logind before running those
[02:02] <shanemikel> don't know much about udev, but I've never had to reboot to get new rules to work.. I thought all you have to do was remove and add the device again (i.e. if it's a usb device, unplug and replug)
[02:02] <ugmoe2000_> @vervet, yea systemd.... xenial 16.04 actually
[02:02] <xaxxon> Blake, does the printer speak any "standard" languages?   that's the easiest way to get things working even if you don't get all the feature support.. postgres.. HPCL (or something like that)
[02:03] <xaxxon> err not postgres
[02:03] <shanemikel> I just added a rule yesterday, and I'm pretty sure I didn't have to do anything
[02:03] <xaxxon> *postscript
[02:03] <ugmoe2000_> @shanemikel... this is a motherboard connected ethernet port so I can't unplug :(
[02:03] <xaxxon> *PCL
[02:03] <shanemikel> oh, well that's a different story
[02:04] <ugmoe2000_> I figured pulling the driver would be sufficient to act like an unplug... but no dice
[02:04] <Blake> xaxxon, I have no idea. I am new to Linux (day 2) and as of language (coding I guess)...I am at day 0. In other words I have no idea what you just asked. Sorry. lol
[02:04] <xaxxon> Blake, what printer?
[02:04] <ecrofgnod> read my nick
[02:04] <ecrofgnod> backwards
[02:04] <xaxxon> do ngfo rce ?
[02:05] <shanemikel> does this look helpful? http://www.howtovmlinux.com/articles/vmware/esxi/change-eth0-interface-name-and-reload-udev-rules-without-a-reboot.html
[02:05] <Azjo> I dont know where else to ask but here goes: anyone know how to fix doom beta not being able to find players in matchmaking?
[02:05] <Blake> I got Canon ImageCLASS MF4700 Series but under Simple Scan it is listed as Canon i-SENSYS MF4700 Series. BTW, scanner is working (it is all in one laser printer/scanner/fax).
[02:05] <ecrofgnod> k
[02:05] <ecrofgnod> typi
[02:05] <ecrofgnod> meant to say, dongforce
[02:05] <ecrofgnod> kkk and gnaa are nothing compared to dongforce
[02:05] <shanemikel> looks like you can use ifdown
[02:07] <xaxxon> Blake, looks like it only speaks: UFR II LT (Host-based)  <== whatever that means.   well, what it means is that no "generic" driver is going to work
[02:07] <shanemikel> did you see the link i posted ugmoe2000 ?
[02:07] <ugmoe2000> @shanemikel ... reading now
[02:07] <Blake> Yes, I noticed that.
[02:07] <RongXian> 16.04 flashplugin-installer error: flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20160407.1.orig.tar.gz
[02:07] <RongXian> 0% [Connecting to archive.canonical.com (91.189.92.191)]terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
[02:07] <RongXian>   what():  basic_string::substr: __pos (which is 103) > this->size() (which is 102)
[02:07] <RongXian>  
[02:07] <tinyalpha> hello
[02:08] <Blake> it is listed under generic but it is not working.
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> !paste | RongXian
[02:09] <Bashing-om> !16.04 | RongXian
[02:09] <xaxxon> vervet, ok, fresh install.   "use host monitor" is set, but it still says "you must update tools to enable 3d acceleration in this virtual machine". I run the dpkg command you said and it says "openvm-tools" and "open-vm-tools-desktop" are installed but they're 9.10.2-2822639.   the kernel (stock) is 4.2.0 and I'm seeing stuff online that says I need open-vm-tools 10.0.0+
[02:10] <ugmoe2000_> @shanemikel reading now...
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> xaxxon - a regular dist-upgrade will do the trick
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> !dist-upgrade
[02:11] <xaxxon> ... how?
[02:11] <bdog7> is it out yet
[02:11] <xaxxon> there is no "dist-upgrade" command
[02:11] <xaxxon> *nm
[02:11] <xaxxon> google
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> xaxxon: [ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ]
[02:12] <vervet> xaxxon: i've used open-vm-tools on 14.04 so the version should not be a big issue, but you could do an apt-get update and apt-get [dist-]upgrade
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> vervet , my command is the recommended one.
[02:12] <vervet> xaxxon: could you check if the daemon is running? vmtoolsd or something like that
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> vervet - apt is the "new" apt-get
[02:12] <xaxxon> vervet, I'm thinking this upgrade will probably fix things
[02:13] <vervet> SonikkuAmerica: yes yes
[02:13] <xaxxon> does ubuntu upgrade the ISO they ship as they patch things?  or is it static once it goes "gold" and you just download the patches?
[02:13] <UserUS> has anyone upgraded from 14 to 16?
[02:13] <xaxxon> like is the 15.10 iso the same forever?  no matter when you download it?
[02:13] <Ben64> UserUS: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 until release
[02:14] <ugmoe2000_> @shanemikel thanks! I had a misformatted udev rule... I left the colons out of my mac address and that was enough for the rule to be ignored. Thanks again!
[02:16] <SonikkuAmerica> xaxxon: Yes, except for LTS releases; every point release has its own image
[02:16] <xaxxon> seems like it would be nice to have a "current patch level iso"
[02:17] <xaxxon> in addition to the "original shipped iso"
[02:17] <newbie> any help, please ?
[02:17] <xaxxon> newbie, what did you ask?
[02:18] <colin__> anyone here?
[02:18] <xaxxon> maybe.
[02:18] <newbie> I just installed ubuntu today. Reboots were okay. Now suddenly, X doesn't start and freezes. Before I rebotoed it complained about lack of frre space.
[02:19] <xaxxon> do you have free space?
[02:19] <newbie> Resuce mode just freezes as well after fsck. I can login fine though from Terminal 1 (F1) and can access /home
[02:19] <xaxxon> linux doesn't work well with no space
[02:19] <newbie> Yes, 400MB
[02:19] <xaxxon> newbie, post the output of df -k somewhere (pastbin type place)
[02:19] <colin__> ubuntu, how can i adjust cpu frequency?
[02:20] <xaxxon> that's not an ubuntu thing
[02:20] <xaxxon> that's more a motherboard/bios thing
[02:20] <xaxxon> newbie, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:20] <newbie> ok I'll reboot to do that. Any other info i need to bring ?
[02:20] <Ben64> newbie: why reboot?
[02:21] <xaxxon> Ben64, he's presumably dual booting and doesn't have a text irc client
[02:21] <newbie> I'm on dual boot. Using windows now to ask in channel.
[02:21] <newbie> Yes!
[02:21] <xaxxon> newbie, the "important" prtition is your / partition.. but if you have multiple, they would all be good.
[02:21] <Ben64> newbie: you can get on here with ubuntu probably
[02:22] <newbie> I also noticed an err about missing /dev/mapper/cryptswap but after googling doesn't seem to be an issue to freeze only X and not regular shell
[02:22] <Ben64> newbie: if you have the ubuntu usb or dvd, you can boot from that. or you might be able to install irssi
[02:22] <xaxxon> newbie, if you need to take a picture with your phone or something to paste to imgur or something, that's fine too
[02:22] <newbie> only 1 /root with 400 MB free and 1Gb swap
[02:22] <colin__> how to adjust cpu frequency?
[02:22] <xaxxon> colin__, I already told you
[02:22] <Ben64> colin__: explain exactly what you're trying to do
[02:23] <xaxxon> newbie, irssi is a text-based linux irc client
[02:23] <xaxxon> newbie, you can post pictures from your phone and chat from there if you need to
[02:24] <xaxxon> ..assuming a phone
[02:24] <newbie> ok, I'll install irssi and get the df -k output as well. Will switch to Ubuntu now. Be back in 1 min. Thanks!
[02:24] <xaxxon> newbie, it'd obviously be a lot easier to help you if you're in linux
[02:25] <xaxxon> oot
[02:26] <xaxxon> oh vervet left :(
[02:32] <xaxxon> I ran all the apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get upgrade and ran them again and it says there's ntohing to do, but my open-vm-tools are still 2:9.10.2-2822639   and vmware workstation is still saying I need to upgrade my tools to enable 3d acceleration.   Also I checked that vmtoolsd is running.      two copies - one with no args, one with -n vmusr --blockFd 3
[02:32] <xaxxon> I also rebooted after doing the upgrades
[02:32] <colin__> how to use vim edit diary?
[02:35] <Bashing-om> !info open-vm-tools
[02:36] <newbie> xaxxon: where can I paste the picture ?
[02:36] <xaxxon> newbie, imgur works
[02:36] <guest-6qQ2eE> hola
[02:36] <xaxxon> hi
[02:36] <guest-6qQ2eE> alguien de mexico
[02:37] <UserUS> is it safe to have 3 os's two of them ubuntu, on a dynamic disk?
[02:37] <xaxxon> define "safe"?
[02:37] <UserUS> no grub repairs
[02:37] <UserUS> or cross sectioning of any data
[02:38] <UserUS> or destorying the eufi loader. thats about it
[02:38] <xaxxon> UserUS, I don't know.. I was just trying to help clarify the question
[02:39] <UserUS> okay, does any one know?
[02:39] <UserUS> 2 of them will be ubuntu 14 and 16 beta 2
[02:40] <newbie> xaxxon: imgur.com/eNrMOv1
[02:41] <Ben64> UserUS: you'd probably want to put grub for one of them on the partition instead of the drive, and have the main grub chainload the 2nd grub, but that's complicated. why run two ubuntus? use vbox
[02:42] <xaxxon> newbie, what happens if you type init 5?
[02:42] <UserUS> I have that currently between windows and ubuntu, I have an EUFI loader with it's own parition that loads first
[02:42] <UserUS> it seperates the bootloaders of each /dev/sda
[02:42] <newbie> xaxxon: Nothing happens
[02:43] <xaxxon> sudo init 5?
[02:43] <newbie> yes, nothing happens
[02:43] <xaxxon> ok.. I'm newb, too.. that's all I know
[02:43] <UserUS> but I read 16 is bloack based code structure, entirely different from 14 and i dont want to cross stream if you get me
[02:44] <newbie> xaxxon: thank you for trying
[02:44] <xaxxon> newbie, maybe look for an Xorg.0.log file?   I don't know, I'm just googling at this point
[02:48] <xaxxon> newbie, all I know is that things can get in an awkward state when you run out of space on /.. that's why it's important to have user directories on another partition
[02:48] <xaxxon> newbie, if you otherwise give up, you can always re-install, but try to make space for mounting /home on another partition
[02:49] <newbie> xaxxon: looked for Xorg.0.log. No issues there.
[02:50] <xaxxon> newbie, sudo init 3 ?
[02:50] <xaxxon> (without the ?)
[02:50] <damntourists> greetings
[02:50] <xaxxon> then maybe back to 5
[02:50] <newbie> tried it, nothing happens
[02:51] <shanemikel> you ran out of space newbie? what's your error?
[02:51] <shanemikel> describe your symptoms
[02:52] <newbie> shanemikel: no error, just X doesn't start anymore.
[02:52] <newbie> shanemikel: I have some free space tho http://imgur.com/eNrMOv1
[02:52] <shanemikel> so when you boot you get left with a vtty?
[02:53] <newbie> just blank screen actually. I only get vtty when I swtich to Ctrl+F1
[02:53] <xaxxon> yeah, lyou're on f7 or whatever
[02:53] <shanemikel> newbie: you can use sprunge.us to paste output of commands on the command line.. so long as you have curl and an internet connection
[02:53] <xaxxon> newbie, ... or you can post a picture :)
[02:54] <shanemikel> go to sprunge.us and the directions are right there
[02:54] <newbie> shanemikel: Internet also went down with this issue, as in http://imgur.com/eNrMOv1 although I'm connected through ethernet cable now
[02:54] <xaxxon> ah
[02:54] <xaxxon> that's cool
[02:54] <CY_Genre> hey all
[02:54] <damntourists> startx doesn't do anything @newbie ?
[02:55] <damntourists> maybe i missed the bulk of the convo
[02:55] <newbie> damntourists: no doesn't do anything
[02:55] <xaxxon> no youre good
[02:55] <shanemikel> did you do anything big recently?
[02:55] <xaxxon> he ran out of space
[02:55] <damntourists> what's ifconfig show
[02:56] <shanemikel> what filesystems are you using?
[02:56] <shanemikel> types of filesystems
[02:56] <newbie> fconfig only shows local loopback
[02:56] <newbie> ext4 for / and swap
[02:56] <shanemikel> you need to check if you're out of inodes
[02:56] <shanemikel> or if btrfs if you need to balance
[02:56] <newbie> shanemikel: how ?
[02:57] <shanemikel> first, do `lsblk -f`
[02:57] <newbie> shanemikel: shows / on sda6
[02:58] <newbie> shanemikel: shows / on sda5 I mean
[02:58] <shanemikel> does it say the fs type?
[02:58] <newbie> No
[02:58] <shanemikel> what about `df -hi /`
[02:58] <newbie> shows IFree of 162K
[02:59] <shanemikel> can you paste the output of `df -h /` and `df -hi /`
[03:00] <xaxxon> newbie, what happens when you type "startx" on the command line?
[03:01] <shanemikel> newbie: so I take it you didn't do anything special to install, you did an automatic installation with the GUI and no manual partitioning?
[03:02] <newbie> I'm uploading the snapshot
[03:02] <newbie> Yes, it was working fine after until I compiled and installed some libraries and then rebooted
[03:02] <xaxxon> "installed some libraries"?
[03:02] <shanemikel> ahh
[03:02] <shanemikel> that sounds like a problem
[03:03] <xaxxon> exactly which libraries?
[03:03] <newbie> glib, automake , activeperl
[03:03] <shanemikel> it's never really safe to compile and install stuff as root
[03:03] <shanemikel> glib <--
[03:03] <shanemikel> that's your proble
[03:03] <xaxxon> GLIB?
[03:03] <shanemikel> that's a very important system library
[03:03] <xaxxon> uhh
[03:03] <xaxxon> what were you trying to do by doing that?
[03:03] <xaxxon> other than fk yourself?
[03:04] <xaxxon> time for a reinstall
[03:04] <newbie> I was trying to install an application and it complained about missing glib
[03:04] <shanemikel> you probably needed glib-dev
[03:04] <shanemikel> usually you can find needed libraries in the distro, with -dev suffix or lib prefix
[03:05] <shanemikel> in this case.. libglib***-dev
[03:05] <damntourists> sudo apt-get install lib*
[03:05] <newbie> I see. I couldn't find it and downloade the tarball and installed it
[03:05] <damntourists> jk don't do that
[03:05] <elky> xaxxon: please try to not be condescending. new users make mistakes, no need to berate them for something they're already hurting over.
[03:05] <shanemikel> apt-file is very helpful too
[03:06] <shanemikel> elky: I just read it as an expression of empathy
[03:06] <xaxxon> newbie, sorry :(   didn't mean to be mean.. but that's a start over to be safe
[03:06] <damntourists> how much time would be wasted if you started over newbie ?
[03:06] <elky> xaxxon: it was the few lines before reinstall i was talking about, just for clarity.
[03:06] <xaxxon> elky, I know
[03:07] <newbie> xaxxon: thats ok :)
[03:07] <elky> xaxxon: just making sure. thanks for listening
[03:07] <newbie> damntourists: well, i did alot of configuration for email and stuff
[03:07] <newbie> Can I back it up ? Is it in /home ?
[03:07] <xaxxon> back that up..
[03:07] <shanemikel> but in general newbie, running third-party scripts as root (i.e. Makefile) is not very safe, and you should kinda know what you're doing.. it's usually a good idea to be really apprehensive about installing into system dirs for ANYTHING
[03:07] <xaxxon> no, probably not.  it's all system-wide stuff
[03:08] <shanemikel> especially big projects
[03:08] <damntourists> newbie if you can, i'd back up your . dot files in /home/username/
[03:09] <newbie> ok, and system settings, can I back those up ? As in wifi , vpn settings .. ?
[03:09] <damntourists> personally i tend not to
[03:09] <shanemikel> newbie, clonezilla is great and easy to use.. you can also easily mount the backup images as if they are physical drives with a one-liner
[03:09] <shanemikel> if you can spare the space, it's not a bad idea because you don't run the risk of forgetting anything
[03:10] <newbie> damntourists: why not ?
[03:10] <newbie> shanemikel: yes, I can spare some space to avoid this risk again
[03:10] <shanemikel> huh?
[03:10] <shanemikel> no I don't mean about running out of space (that didnt' break your system).. I mean spare the space for a whole disk backup
[03:11] <damntourists> newbie it's never anything that takes me an abundance of time i guess.
[03:11] <newbie> shanemikel: Oh, a whole disk ? Can't I just choose settings folders?
[03:12] <damntourists> you could look into something like https://joeyh.name/code/etckeeper/
[03:12] <shanemikel> sure, you could, it's up to you
[03:12] <xaxxon> "settings folders" is more complicated than you think
[03:12] <newbie> etc and /home. Anything else ?
[03:12] <shanemikel> personally, I manage my dotfiles in a git repository, and the easiest way to do that is keep them all in one place, and symlink them everywher they're expected (.vim, .emacs.d, etcetera)
[03:13] <xaxxon> and it's entirely possible you might grab something "bad" if you start bulk grabbing folders and putting them back down after you re-install... perhaps unlikely, but you're in an awkward situation
[03:13] <damntourists> that's really it imo, if you've only gotten as far as setting up email and vpn from a fresh install
[03:13] <shanemikel> you can also take a clonezilla image of individual partitions
[03:14] <shanemikel> I tend not to save the state dirs for most apps that do their config with a gui.. exception being firefox (for bookmarks)
[03:15] <shanemikel> most are pretty easy to reconfigure
[03:15] <newbie> shanemikel damntourists xaxxon ok, I'll do a clean install and configure it again then I'll setup clonezilla. Thanks alot everyone.
[03:15] <SchrodingersScat> if you have a backup you can pull anything that is glaringly different than how you like it.
[03:15] <shanemikel> newbie: clonezilla is a livecd
[03:15] <SchrodingersScat> !backups
[03:16] <SchrodingersScat> newbie: I happen to like duplicity, but then there's also simpler options like rsync if you're doing something quick and local.
[03:16] <newbie> thanks elky SchrodingersScat
[03:16] <newbie> SchrodingersScat: Actually, anything works with google drive ? rsync ?
[03:16] <shanemikel> newbie, and if you do the install with a separate home partition, next time you break your system you can keep your home
[03:16] <xaxxon> newbie, why not try it in a VM first?
[03:17] <newbie> I tried VM before, never broke it. Just did it this time with the real OS :/
[03:17] <shanemikel> ^ I second that..
[03:17] <damntourists> man rsync
[03:17] <azizLIGHT> hello what files to backup if i want to install updates to kernel header and images, and grub, while im under a encrypted /? i have done this before and wasnt able to boot so im scared
[03:17] <xaxxon> well, best of luck.   but it still may be worth it just to go through these steps to get your specific apps installed.
[03:18] <newbie> ok thank you all. I'll also seperate /home for next round.
[03:18] <SchrodingersScat> !info rsync | newbie, and duplicity actually does work with google drive, but you may need to add a ppa for duplicity support because google changed things since the last version in regular repos, last I checked.
[03:18] <xaxxon> newbie, check what you're upgrading before you upgrade it, too -- especially if you're downloading stuff by hand
[03:18] <SchrodingersScat> !man | newbie, and be sure to read the manual on everything
[03:18] <newbie> ok, got it
[03:19] <xaxxon> and if it has anyhting to do with your core compiler/runtime you probably are doing something else weird that you need to fix
[03:19] <shanemikel> if in doubt, ask
[03:20] <shanemikel> also, prefix flags are your friend
[03:22] <xaxxon> prefix flags?
[03:24] <shanemikel> to configure scipts
[03:24] <shanemikel> for instance to put things in /usr/local instead of /usr
[03:24] <Crysp> Guys, how do i go about making an menu bar applet (like it's own application that runs in the menu bar, next to the time, date and volume)? What language should i use and where do i start from? I couldn't find any proper documentation/tutorials on it.
[03:24] <shanemikel> and avoid competing with the distribution
[03:25] <xaxxon> Crysp, what window manager?
[03:26] <xaxxon> Crysp, basically you need to use whatever can integrate with the system you... want to integrate with  That sounds circular, but that's what matters
[03:27] <damntourists> Crysp you could make something using python
[03:27] <Crysp> xaxxon: Unity? I want to target the majority of the users.
[03:27] <damntourists> oh
[03:27] <damntourists> do the majority of users use unity?
[03:28] <Crysp> damntourists: xaxxon: i get that, but do you know where people could learn about making it? Documentation is basically non-existent.
[03:28] <Crysp> I suppose so, doesn't it come built in when installing Ubuntu? Like the general users?
[03:28] <Crysp> damntourists: ^
[03:31] <damntourists> i mean, there are widely available variations like kubuntu, ubuntu mate, lubuntu
[03:31] <xaxxon> Crysp, I'm not seeing anything with the google terms I'm using...
[03:32] <damntourists> https://doc.qt.io/archives/4.6/desktop-systray.html is pretty universal
[03:33] <UserUS> what are you looking for damntourists?
[03:33] <Crysp> xaxxon: Guys, i found the docs, but i'm confused about their API'S http://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/appindicators/
[03:34] <Crysp> They have two : Indicate and App Indicator. Any idea which one is what? I'm a noob at this.
[03:34] <UserUS> damntourists: yes, untity is widely used. ubuntu 16 uses unity as the default as well as 14, both LTS
[03:35] <UserUS> Long term support packages is what most use due to support hence the name
[03:35] <Crysp> UserUS: We were talking about creating a menu bar applet and it's support. Do you know any good documentation to learn about making those?
[03:36] <UserUS> hmm, most of them are opensource. github is where I'd go though
[03:36] <UserUS> it's full of css, java, python...etc
[03:37] <borinavaja> hi
[03:37] <UserUS> also, check the source images, considering its all opensource
[03:38] <damntourists> i feel like a system tray icon versus 'unity menu bar applet' would be usable by more, though, no?
[03:38] <UserUS> 16 comes with it built in
[03:39] <UserUS> i watched a video with an option to switch between the two
[03:39] <trism> Crysp: this is an example python appindicator that just displays the items given on the command line as menu items: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15886068/
[03:39] <damntourists> i don't use unity, so how would I use Crysp's software
[03:40] <damntourists> i use Ubuntu but with Mate as my WM
[03:47] <Crysp> damntourists: Yes, that was the word i was looking for all this time. Thanks! there was a lot of similarity with those two terms while googling that i couldnt find what i needed.
[03:49] <damntourists> Crysp i'd look at the QSystemTrayIcon then
[03:49] <damntourists> PyQt or Qt
[03:53] <jensenDEX> Hi
[03:57] <damntourists> yo
[03:58] <jensenDEX> Anybody familiar with WeeChat know why I'm unable to chat in #help but I can chat in here?
[03:59] <Crysp> damntourists: so this is what i'm trying to replicate in ubuntu https://gyazo.com/f919e85777dcedeb2d949a02011eb90e .And about the QsystemtrayIcon, does it need a main app running in the background for that to be used? I want to try making one that "lives" in the tray as it's own process.
[03:59] <shanemikel> so ubuntu's using thunderbird now instead of evolution
[04:00] <damntourists> jensenDEX judging by the topic, only those with +v are able to chat
[04:00] <damntourists> so you have to wait for someone to give you +voice
[04:00] <rootuserleon> Quickbooks online alternative for linux anyone?
[04:00] <damntourists> unless you're able to get voice by having a registered nick
[04:01] <jensenDEX> Ah, gotcha. So is that a random thing or does it happen automatically?
[04:01] <jensenDEX> I'm registered/Identified
[04:01] <damntourists> Crysp that looks like a unity/gnome3 specific applette
[04:02] <damntourists> QSystemTrayIcon i believe only gives you access to a QMenu (basic menu like you'd find from file/edit/view, etc.. in an app)
[04:02] <xaxxon> Crysp, anyhow, it looks like your options are C/python
[04:03] <damntourists> jensenDEX it sounds like it it's something that happens automatically on an interval or you have to wait for someone to do it manually when they notice you're in there
[04:04] <damntourists> jensenDEX someone has to be granted +v by a channel operator if the channel is set to only allow those with +v to chat
[04:04] <jensenDEX> damntourists: Gotcha. So I could possibly message an OP?
[04:05] <rootuserleon> Quickbooks online alternative for linux anyone?
[04:05] <damntourists> sure, though, you could also get help elsewhere.. anything you need help with that we might be able to assist with?
[04:06] <rootuserleon> Hello
[04:07] <jensenDEX> damntourists: Thanks for the info. Not a huge deal but I was trying to get cloaked. Heard #help is the only way to do that on freenode
[04:09] <Crysp> @xaxxon @damntourists are there any set of libraries for that (c/python)?
[04:10] <xaxxon> Crysp, presumably ...
[04:10] <damntourists> Crysp, no idea. i don't use unity :)
[04:10] <xaxxon> hhh
[04:10] <Crysp> xaxxon: damntourists well thank you for the help!
[04:11] <xaxxon> cryptodan, I think "indicate" is the library
[04:11] <xaxxon> uhhh
[04:11] <xaxxon> is there no #unity?
[04:11] <xaxxon> hrmm nbot really
[04:13] <xaxxon> oh I see... this is a way to send messages
[04:14] <xaxxon> Crysp, I think you just send the messages from your application and they "magic" show up in the menu bar
[04:15] <xaxxon> Crysp, yeah, I have no clue
[04:15] <Crysp> xaxxon: http://candidtim.github.io/appindicator/2014/09/13/ubuntu-appindicator-step-by-step.html i've found this which is a bit similar on track, thanks though
[04:16] <damntourists> Crysp that looks identical to QStatusBarIcon
[04:16] <damntourists> except usint gtk
[04:17] <Crysp> damntourists: i know, im looking into it right now and see what's the best way to approach this
[04:18] <damntourists> yeah i think it's more of a gnome3 thing than unity
[04:20] <damntourists> Crysp https://github.com/paradoxxxzero/gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet
[04:27] <cyberpunk21> new here
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> cyberpunk21: welcome
[04:27] <damntourists> yoyoyooy
[04:27] <cyberpunk21> Thanks!
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> cyberpunk21: you joined the official ubuntu support channel, you can ask questions here
[04:28] <cyberpunk21> nice! I'm enjoying the 15.10 version
[04:28] <cyberpunk21> So far so good
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | cyberpunk21
[04:29] <cyberpunk21> ok
[04:31] <CY_Genre> anyone mind if i pick their brain about something here..
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> CY_Genre: if its an ubuntu question, go ahead and share to the channel
[04:32] <CY_Genre> yes it is surely an ubuntu question..
[04:33] <cyberpunk21> Warning: The command '/usr/sbin/adduser' has been replaced by a script: /usr/sbin/adduser: Perl script, ASCII text executable : warning by RKHUNTER, IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN IDEA?
[04:34] <CY_Genre> I'm trying to setup selekTOR properly and everything on the gui side of things seems on the up and up but when I run a check i can still see my originating ip. I have tor installed and have disabled the appropriate daemon but still don't understand what's going on with it
[04:34] <CY_Genre> im on trusty
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> CY_Genre: where did you get selektor?
[04:36] <CY_Genre> lotuspsychje, furthermore, my logs for TOR in var/logs/tor all check out
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> cyberpunk21: you scanned your system with rkhunter?
[04:38] <CY_Genre> lotuspsychje, i got the .deb from their site, and installed it with the ubuntu software center
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> CY_Genre: well its not an official packages from repos, try to contact the maintainer
[04:39] <CY_Genre> lotuspsychje, how do you mean..
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> CY_Genre: it means selektor is not an official ubuntu package, when you have issues with it perhaps seek help at their forums or contact the owner of the selektor website
[04:41] <CY_Genre> lotuspsychje, le' sigh
[05:01] <_0xbadc0de> hi
[05:01] <_0xbadc0de> I have installed kubunto desktop
[05:01] <_0xbadc0de> but I have no GUI
[05:01] <_0xbadc0de> I already did xinit
[05:02] <_0xbadc0de> but I only got a better 'console'
[05:02] <_0xbadc0de> can you hint me what to do next?
[05:02] <_0xbadc0de> I tried installing kde
[05:06] <UserUS> startx
[05:07] <UserUS> it will display any issues in te xorg.log of gui related issues
[05:19] <TPlen> Hi, how can I open `Ubuntu program manager` on graphic mode by terminal?
[05:20] <UserUS> simply type the program name and hit enter
[05:21] <cyberpunk21> lotuspsychje, yes I scanned it with Rkhunter
[05:21] <TPlen> I don't know the program name of program manager, where can i see?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> cyberpunk21: its probably a false positive
[05:21] <cyberpunk21> ok
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: you mean software center
[05:21] <cyberpunk21> Yes probably
[05:21] <TPlen> yes
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> cyberpunk21: try also clamav if you want to scan system
[05:22] <cyberpunk21> yes, thanks though
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: type software-center in terminal
[05:23] <TPlen> that's it. tks
[05:33] <_0xbadc0de> it says I cant use xstart
[05:33] <_0xbadc0de> it shows me other options
[05:33] <_0xbadc0de> that doesnt seem to be available
[05:35] <EtaleSite> Hi guys. I'm in deep trouble. I upgraded some things, and now my linux won't load anymore, in either of the current distributions. The error I get is: "target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init"
[05:35] <EtaleSite> Naturally, I'm using a different computer to chat.
[05:35] <EtaleSite> I have a burnt Ubuntu cd on the ready, and my screwed up computer has a dual boot with a Windows, which continues to work.
[05:44] <subcro> EtaleSite: just start with the cd open a console and type sudo fdisk -l and see your linux partition then type sudo fsck /dev/your_linux_partition
[05:47] <EtaleSite> subcro, just did that. I'm attempting to see if it loads normally now.
[05:47] <EtaleSite> subcro, no, it's not...
[05:48] <EtaleSite> When I did the fsck, it said: Unsupported: replay_log(), Unsupported: check_volume(), Unsupported cases found
[05:49] <TPlen> I've uninstalled unity by mistake and now the tray menu (top and left) is not load after login. I see only background image and same icons on desktop.
[05:49] <EtaleSite> Any ideas?
[05:49] <TPlen> If I type 'apt-get install unity' on terminal the message if 'Depends: libunity-core-6.0-9*' but not will be installed
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: start from the beginning, whats your base ubuntu you installed?
[05:50] <TPlen> lotuspsychje: 14.04 LTS
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: xubuntu? lubuntu?
[05:51] <subcro> EtaleSite: you are sure chose the correct partition ?
[05:51] <ecojud> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:51] <EtaleSite> subcro, there was only an sda1...
[05:51] <TPlen> i think it is only ubuntu. I typed uname -a ..
[05:52] <TPlen> ubuntu original from Dell notebook
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: you already have ubuntu desktop? and why do you want to reinstall unity?
[05:52] <subcro> EtaleSite: thats not usual
[05:53] <TPlen> ubuntu-desktop not. I cant install too
[05:53] <TPlen> message is you have held broken packages
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: you dont make any sense mate
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: why are you trying to install unity?
[05:54] <ecojud> lotuspsychje: he mistakingly unistalled it
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> right, so it is ubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: follow the command from ecojud  please
[05:55] <TPlen> It is correct. `apt-get install unity ubuntu-desktop` , apt-get runs and the last line is `E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.`
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> TPlen: i think youl better try a recoverymode/fix broken packages
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | TPlen
[05:57] <TPlen> alright. I will try
[05:57] <subcro> TPLen: try sudo apt-get update –fix-missing && sudo dpkg –configure -a && sudo apt-get install -f
[06:08] <qwebirc816436> Hello, I am having a small trouble with nginx. I am not sure if anyone could help. I have been trying this out for the pass few days and so results. I know this is a ubuntu support, but I thought perhaps someone could help me here.
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc816436: there's a pretty large #nginx channel also if you like
[06:10] <qwebirc816436> I have checked in there, and have ask them and waited.
[06:10] <xaxxon> just ask
[06:10] <xaxxon> enough foreplay :)
[06:10] <baizon> qwebirc816436: to bes honest, it'a 8AM here in europe, and it's weekend so i would guess you have to wait a little longer now.
[06:10] <qwebirc816436> I am running Nginx on my Unbuntu 15 server. And I want to be able to run 2 websites on the same nginx server.
[06:11] <xaxxon> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-nginx-virtual-hosts-server-blocks-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts--3 ?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc816436: also running a server on non-lts is not very recommended..
[06:12] <xaxxon> nah.. it's more about deploying with your dependencies than what OS version you're on
[06:12] <qwebirc816436> non-lts?
[06:12] <xaxxon> non-long-term-support version of ubuntu
[06:12] <xaxxon> but unless you're worried about the kernel version, you sohuld be deploying anything production with its dependencies, and not relying on the OS to provide them
[06:12] <qwebirc816436> I think I have tried that guide, but nothing.
[06:12] <xaxxon> "nothing"?
[06:13] <qwebirc816436> No Success of achieving of runnign two sites.
[06:13] <qwebirc816436> I can try again.
[06:13] <xaxxon> what actually happened?
[06:13] <xaxxon> I'd suggest that -- and report what you tried, what you expected, and what actually happened
[06:14] <xaxxon> regardless, the term you're looking for is "virtual host"
[06:14] <xaxxon> so if you want to google for other information
[06:14] <xaxxon> "nginx virtual host"
[06:14] <qwebirc816436> Okay.
[06:14] <xaxxon> elky, that was ok, right?
[06:14] <qwebirc816436> I willl try that guide and see what happens again.
[06:15] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, the more details you provide, the better people can help you.
[06:15] <MasterCard> yo
[06:15] <xaxxon> hoho
[06:15] <MasterCard> is the phillipines safe to to to?
[06:15] <xaxxon> use protection and you should be fine
[06:16] <elky> xaxxon: that was fine.
[06:16] <xaxxon> .. I have no idea what you just said, but that's pretty good advice for whatever you're doing regarding the phillipines
[06:16] <xaxxon> :)
[06:16] <elky> MasterCard: what are you trying to do?
[06:16] <xaxxon> obviously he's trying "to to to":)
[06:17] <subcro> xD
[06:17] <MasterCard> i wanna go to phillipinessss
[06:18] <xaxxon> to install ubuntu?
[06:18] <subcro> there is no such thing like a safe place anymore...
[06:18] <xaxxon> I'd burn some ISOs before you go so you don't have to worry about high speed internet
[06:18] <MasterCard> to raw
[06:18] <jatin30> Hi how to find the missing dependencies in a build system?
[06:19] <xaxxon> jatin30, in which build system?
[06:19] <MasterCard> sex without a condom
[06:19] <jatin30> MSYS2
[06:19] <xaxxon> MasterCard, that'a not really on topic here
[06:19] <xaxxon> msys isn't a build system
[06:19] <xaxxon> jatin30, what are you tryig to do?
[06:19] <MasterCard> i know this taxi driver that if you give him a blow job he will give you free rides anywhere
[06:19] <MasterCard> !ops | HFSPLUS has returned
[06:19] <xaxxon> and that's a /ignore
[06:19] <xaxxon> thank you
[06:20] <jatin30> implement a new build process for ASCEND for Windows
[06:21] <jatin30> based on the use of MSYS2
[06:21] <xaxxon> jatin30, something like cmake is a build system... or gnu make... or autotools...
[06:21] <jatin30> ok
[06:21] <xaxxon> do you have something that depends on other libraries that may or may not be installed on the system and you want to find where they are?
[06:22] <xaxxon> or what specifically did you mean " how to find the missing dependencies in a build system?"
[06:22] <jatin30> xaxxon: I need to perform the following tasks: (1) modifying current SCons build files so that they work correctly with MSYS2 (compared to older MSYS), (2) ensuring that all required dependencies are also available in MSYS2
[06:22] <xaxxon> define "available in msys2"
[06:22] <xaxxon> like.. what kinds of dependencies
[06:23] <xaxxon> code libraries?
[06:23] <xaxxon> command line tools?
[06:23] <xaxxon> also I don't know what scons is
[06:23] <xaxxon> http://scons.org/
[06:24] <xaxxon> ok, so scons is a build system
[06:24] <jatin30> yeah
[06:24] <xaxxon> so finding dependencies would be done in scons python scrips
[06:24] <xaxxon> scripts
[06:24] <xaxxon> but none of that has really anything to do with ubuntu.. you'd want to ask in an scons channel, I think.  or an msys channel if the questions are msys-specific
[06:25] <jatin30> I have set up almost the whole environment (MinGW-w64 build environment) but i am not facing any issues while installing
[06:26] <jatin30> does that mean the build system has no missing dependencies?
[06:26] <jatin30> there is no msys channel ill try scons
[06:26] <xaxxon> jatin30, I hvae no idea what you're actually doing or running
[06:26] <xaxxon> jatin30, try #mingw
[06:27] <jatin30> thanks
[06:28] <qwebirc816436> Okay, this is wierd...
[06:29] <qwebirc816436> I tried that guide you have given me xaxxon. And I went to both domains and gave me the exact same page.
[06:48] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, how did you go about testing?
[06:48] <qwebirc816436> Went to the domains
[06:49] <xaxxon> what does "go to the domains" mean?
[06:49] <qwebirc816436> And shows the exact same page.
[06:49] <xaxxon> do you have full registered names you're using?  did you set up something in your /etc/hosts?
[06:49] <xaxxon> did you telnet in and type the http requests by hand?
[06:50] <qwebirc816436> I have done anything in the /etc/hosts
[06:50] <xaxxon> the more details you provide, the better we can help you find what is most likely a simple mistake you're making because you're making a bad assumption
[06:50] <xaxxon> saying "I went to a domain" leaves way too much to our imagination
[06:50] <qwebirc816436> I am not making any assumption
[06:51] <qwebirc816436> I am just trying to get this to work is all.
[06:51] <xaxxon> if you can't tell us the specific steps you tried, we can't understand what else to suggest
[06:51] <xaxxon> you are assuming you tested the process correctly
[06:51] <xaxxon> I want to know exactly what you did so I can validate that assumption
[06:51] <qwebirc816436> The guide you provided me, I did Step 1 to 6
[06:51] <qwebirc816436> Twice but with different names.
[06:52] <xaxxon> You will need to designate an actual DNS approved domain, or an IP address, to test that a virtual host is working
[06:52] <xaxxon> that's why I asked you what DNS set up you have
[06:52] <qwebirc816436> Ummm
[06:52] <qwebirc816436> I use cloudflare?
[06:52] <qwebirc816436> To manage the Domain Names.
[06:52] <xaxxon> also, step 8 is the testing...
[06:52] <xaxxon> so... I'm confused what you expected after doing 1-6
[06:53] <xaxxon> and step 7 seems to be where you actually set up the testing
[06:54] <xaxxon> so when you say "I went to the domain", I'm not just going to trust that you did the right thing.. partly because I'm not even exactly sure what that means
[06:54] <xaxxon> or more specifically what that means to youp
[06:54] <qwebirc816436> On the browser, I went to the domains that I have owned.
[06:55] <qwebirc816436> And the Domains are pointed to the IP on the VPS.
[06:55] <xaxxon> ok
[06:55] <xaxxon> is this http or https?
[06:55] <qwebirc816436> http
[06:56] <xaxxon> telnet to your server/port and type in GET / HTTP/1.1<enter>host: name.of.virtual.host
 means press enter
[06:56] <xaxxon> and then do it again typing in the other virtual host name
[06:56] <qwebirc816436> I am confused.
[06:56] <qwebirc816436> I am not that good with VPS.
[06:57] <xaxxon> type "telnet 1.2.3.4 80"
[06:57] <xaxxon> where 1.2.3.4 is your ip address
[06:57] <qwebirc816436> in the VPS?
[06:57] <xaxxon> of wherever the webserver is
[06:57] <xaxxon> and 80 is the port of the web server
[06:58] <xaxxon> then, type in without the quotes "GET / HTTP/1.1" and hit enter.  then type "host: your.virtual.server.name.com" and then press enter twice
[06:59] <xaxxon> repeat that step but type in the other virtual server name (i.e. the other dns name)
[06:59] <xaxxon> this is how web servers differentiate between virtual hosts... but we're just typing it in by hand to make sure it's getting the exact information we want it to get
[06:59] <xaxxon> the "host: " header line, that is
[07:00] <Swey_Hey> Should I get 15.10 now and then upgrade to 16.04 (through the update manager) or should I just wait for 16.04. I want to use ubuntu now though.
[07:01] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, also, I think this guide assumes you already have a web page up and running before you start
[07:01] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, so you'd need to have something already up and then following these steps adds a second site.   did you already have something up and serving an index page before you started following the guide?
[07:02] <qwebirc816436> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15887397/
[07:02] <xaxxon> is that a public IP?  can I connect to tit?
[07:02] <xaxxon> *it
[07:02] <qwebirc816436> Yeah
[07:03] <qwebirc816436> Thats the VPS IP
[07:03] <xaxxon> yeah
[07:04] <xaxxon> what are the DNS anmes you are using?
[07:04] <xaxxon> oh terabyte
[07:04] <xaxxon> https://gist.github.com/xaxxon/640a1216db24ae7e527a42fe659d655e
[07:04] <xaxxon> that's one... what is the other?
[07:05] <vbotka> Swey_Hey, You can try 16.04 rihght now. I've upgraded Lenovo X220 from 15.10 to 16.04 and it's been working without any problems since then.
[07:05] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, what is the other DNS name/
[07:05] <qwebirc816436> http://www.lunajourney.com/
[07:06] <Swey_Hey> vbotka: Nice laptop mate:-) I will get 15.10 and upgrade to 16.04, Linux mint has been to buggy for me. Thanks
[07:06] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, what is the contents of the other index page?
[07:06] <qwebirc816436> LunaJourney will be on WordPress
[07:06] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, i.e. I get the "You have set up a virtual host" result.. but what is the other results I'd expect to see?  and which for which name?
[07:07] <qwebirc816436> TerabyteGaming will be using forums
[07:08] <qwebirc816436> I'll be back in about 5 mins or less
[07:08] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, you'll need to post the contents of the different files in your /etc/nginx/sites-available directory
[07:09] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, make sure you actually have more than 1, obviously...
[07:09] <xaxxon> each file corresponds to a virtual server
[07:13] <StarOnD> hello I have GRUB installed on my hard disk, I have an external usb hard disk as well. when i try to boot through a live usb, i get the message end kernel panic- not syncing VFS
[07:13] <StarOnD> I have ubuntu in my live usb + externel usb hard disk
[07:14] <qwebirc816436> xaxxon: http://prntscr.com/at8ud9
[07:14] <qwebirc816436> Those are whats in the /etc/nginx/site-avaliable
[07:15] <xaxxon> qwebirc816436, post the contents of those files somewhere, please
[07:15] <xaxxon> I have to go to bed soon ,but I'll try to help you for ~10m longer
[07:18] <xaxxon> ping?
[07:18] <xaxxon> if you're not there, I'm gunna leave in ~1m
[07:21] <qwebirc816436> Sorry
[07:22] <qwebirc816436> What do you mean post the contents of the files somewhere
[07:31] <DiamondSword> hello.. I want to ask about Linux at general.. recently I switched to Ubuntu and decided to use Linux anymore. but, I tried many Linux distros (ubuntu, mint, debiand and their different desktop environments) my computer was working better with Windows! from the day I installed Linux, laptop's fans are always on and working hard. I have high temperature problems which I rarely had on Windows.
[07:31] <DiamondSword> what about it? please talk to me
[07:33] <geirha> It probably means the hardware manufacturer(s) haven't bothered writing drivers for linux
[07:33] <auronandace> DiamondSword: probably better discussed in ##linux since this channel is for ubuntu only issues
[07:34] <superfirelord42> or the hardware is not being detected correctly
[07:50] <lord4163> What's up with youtube? The video's don't display?
[07:51] <jennana> hello
[07:51] <lord4163> Eh no video wants to show up
[07:52] <Poke95|SM64> lord4163: This is Ubuntu.... Not YouTube....
[07:53] <lord4163> Poke95|SM64, I'm talking about all HTML5 video, in Chrome AND Firefox
[07:57] <Poke95|SM64> What the hell happened? A lot of quits
[07:57] <superfirelord42> netsplit
[08:15] <joakimk> I've just installed ubuntu 14.04, alongside win10, but U14 freezes every time I boot in. After ~15mins, I have to power cycle the laptop
[08:15] <joakimk> Can't see any specific pattern -- it happens relentlessly, no matter what programs I'm running, or whether I've got an extra monitor connected, etc etc
[08:17] <joakimk> this time was a new record: it froze immediately after logging in...
[08:20] <brianx> joakimk: maybe try 16.04 next week?
[08:21] <joakimk> brianx: you suppose this is to do with the specific version of ubuntu? I could try u15 then?
[08:21] <joakimk> reinstall?
[08:21] <Akuli> What's the problem?
[08:21] <joakimk> Akuli: me? Ubuntu 14.04 random freezes, every time :(
[08:21] <brianx> you may have issues with bios and/or missing vendor drivers.
[08:22] <Akuli> joakimk: Check your graphics card drivers and upgrade the kernel.
[08:22] <joakimk> How do you mean? :)
[08:22] <brianx> hp is really bad about not working without their code.
[08:22] <joakimk> It's a Dell, btw
[08:22] <Akuli> joakimk: I don't know where it is in the unity desktop, but open software and updates
[08:22] <brianx> haven't seen as many issues with dell.
[08:23] <joakimk> Akuli: but it freezes ;) I'll try to reboot
[08:23] <Akuli> joakimk: Oh its that freezy
[08:23] <joakimk> yes
[08:23] <joakimk> 10 secs
[08:23] <Akuli> joakimk: Then we need to first ugprade the kernel
[08:23] <joakimk> sometimes 15 mins tho
[08:23] <joakimk> so I'm trying to reboot now :)
[08:23] <Akuli> joakimk: Log out or start the computer and don't log in with the GUI.
[08:23] <joakimk> ok
[08:23] <Akuli> Are you on wired or wireless internet?
[08:24] <joakimk> btw, how do I log in without GUI? There doesn't seem to be any options.. Just pass prompt
[08:24] <joakimk> and I'm on wifi
[08:24] <joakimk> it's a Dell E6520
[08:24] <Akuli> joakimk: if you don't have internet we can't really do it that way
[08:24] <Akuli> joakimk: It's Ctrl+Alt+F1 and the whole GUI goes away, you can use Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back.
[08:24] <brianx> ctrl alt f1 gives you a txt login
[08:25] <joakimk> Akuli: don't have internet? I do have internet. Does it have to be cabled, or is wifi ok?
[08:25] <Akuli> joakimk: Anyway, if you're on wireless you need to login normally to get the internet working.
[08:25] <joakimk> aha
[08:25] <Akuli> Right
[08:25] <Akuli> I think its possible to configure wireless internet without the gui but i've never done that.
[08:25] <joakimk> let me hook it up
[08:25] <joakimk> and boot into non-gui :)
[08:25] <Akuli> You have wired too?
[08:26] <Akuli> Nice :)(
[08:26] <Akuli> :)
[08:27] <joakimk> Akuli: yes :) So, it's online. And I've gone in tty1
[08:27] <Akuli> Nice
[08:27] <Akuli> So, you have 14.04?
[08:27] <joakimk> yew
[08:27] <joakimk> yes
[08:27] <joakimk> 14.04.4
[08:27] <Akuli> Run this: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-wily
[08:27] <Akuli> That'll give you the kernel meant for ubuntu 15.10.
[08:28] <joakimk> unable to locate package...
[08:28] <joakimk> ah sorry
[08:28] <joakimk> hold on :)
[08:28] <Akuli> Use tab to autocomplete :)
[08:28] <joakimk> not willy
[08:28] <joakimk> hee
[08:28] <joakimk> why not willy?
[08:28] <joakimk> anyway, it's installing :=)
[08:28] <Akuli> I don't know why its not willy
[08:28] <joakimk> just joking. Thanks for helping me!
[08:28] <Akuli> When it's installed run sudo reboot and log in with the gui, then we'll fix the drivers.
[08:29] <joakimk> so this is same as installing u15?
[08:29] <Akuli> Not really
[08:29] <joakimk> it's u14, with u15 kernel?
[08:29] <Akuli> Just upgrading the kernel, which is what communicates with your computer and Linus Torvalds is working on.
[08:29] <Akuli> Right
[08:30] <joakimk> after I left the university, it's been a while since I've worked/used linux regularly. The way this all just works, and the open source community really makes me miss it :)
[08:30] <joakimk> so, I've logged back in
[08:30] <joakimk> in the GUI
[08:31] <Akuli> Nice
[08:31] <Akuli> So now can some unity-user tell joakimk how to get to software and updates in unity?
[08:32] <joakimk> Akuli: I have Ubuntu Software Center, Software & Updates, Software Updater...
[08:32] <joakimk> Additional Drivers, too, isa thing
[08:32] <Akuli> Alright, go there.
[08:32] <joakimk> drivers?
[08:33] <Akuli> Yes
[08:34] <joakimk> it lists NVIDIA Corporation: GF119M. Says, "Using X.Org X Server -- Nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (open source)"
[08:34] <joakimk> This device is using an alternative driver
[08:34] <Akuli> joakimk: What other options do you have for it?
[08:34] <joakimk> several:
[08:35] <Akuli> Might be faster to get a screenshot of it
[08:35] <joakimk> NVIDIA binary driver, NVIDIA legacy binary driver... various version numbers of these
[08:35] <joakimk> hee right!
[08:35] <joakimk> one moment
[08:35] <joakimk> still -- it hasn't froze yet ;)
[08:35] <Akuli> Right, its the new kernel :)
[08:36] <joakimk> crap, there it went
[08:36] <joakimk> haha
[08:36] <joakimk> just as I said it
[08:36] <Akuli> Get a pic of it with your phone/camera'
[08:36] <joakimk> ok
[08:41] <joakimk> Akuli: sorry, that was extremely cumbersome. Isn't there a snag.gy android app? Anyway, here it is: http://bildr.no/view/V25yRkMv
[08:42] <Akuli> joakimk: Reboot and choose the first one.
[08:42] <joakimk> ok
[08:42] <Akuli> And apply the changes.
[08:43] <joakimk> uh-oh, now the resolution is 640x360, or something. But I'll try to manage :D
[08:43] <Akuli> hmm
[08:43] <Akuli> after or before changing the driver?
[08:43] <joakimk> before
[08:43] <Akuli> alright
[08:43] <joakimk> you think this is to do with graphics driver?
[08:43] <Akuli> Yes
[08:43] <joakimk> the freezing?
[08:43] <Akuli> Because in linux the drivers are like kernel modules
[08:44] <Akuli> If there's a problem they freeze the whole kernel
[08:44] <joakimk> I see
[08:44] <Akuli> The advantage of having it that way is that you have a lot less driver installing to do on a fresh install than on windows.
[08:45] <joakimk> how so?
[08:45] <Akuli> Because the kernel comes with 95% of the drivers you'll need :)
[08:45] <joakimk> :) Ok, now it says, "This device is using the recommended driver"
[08:46] <joakimk> reboot?
[08:46] <joakimk> or just log out & in?
[08:46] <Akuli> Reboot
[08:46] <Akuli> I'm not sure about logging out and in, but reboot will work for sure.
[08:47] <joakimk> the resolution is back to normal :)
[08:47] <Akuli> Now open all applications in the left sidebar
[08:47] <Akuli> just click them all in a row
[08:47] <Akuli> Your computer shouldn't freeze :)
[08:48] <joakimk> that's great, thanks again!
[08:48] <Akuli> You're welcome :)
[08:48] <joakimk> I'm trying a general software update
[08:48] <Akuli> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:48] <Ben64> && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <Akuli> By the way, your new kernel will update too, which is not that nice if you don't want it
[08:49] <Akuli> because a newer version might not work for some reason
[08:49] <joakimk> what, if I do update && upgrade?
[08:49] <Ben64> theres no reason it wouldn't work
[08:49] <joakimk> maybe just update, then?
[08:49] <Ben64> update and dist-upgrade
[08:49] <Akuli> joakimk: Run all three :)
[08:49] <Akuli> I prefer to hold my kernel packages but that's just me :)
[08:49] <Ben64> dist-upgrade is the same as upgrade but does more
[08:49] <Ben64> Akuli: that's dumb
[08:50] <Akuli> Not really :)
[08:50] <Ben64> it really is. you're missing out on any bug fixes and security patches
[08:50] <Akuli> I'm coming from linux mint, the kernel is basically never upgraded there.
[08:50] <Akuli> And what does that matter for a normal user anyway?
[08:50] <Akuli> I would care a lot more if i was running a server.
[08:50] <Ben64> if you don't care about security then thats your own deal, don't suggest it to others
[08:51] <Akuli> I keep my browser up to date and i don't use flash. That's my security :)
[08:51] <Akuli> Also, common sense is way more important than anything else. Malware doesn't come by itself.
[08:51] <anes_> dear friends , any body can advise the installation problem solution of android sdk : http://askubuntu.com/questions/758265/could-not-install-platform-tools-on-ubuntu-15-10
[08:52] <superfirelord42> could be a permissions issue?
[08:52] <joakimk> Akuli: thanks again! Hope this resolves things :)
[08:53] <Ben64> joakimk: but really, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:53] <DiamondSword> Akuli, how to upgrade then without changing the kernel ?
[08:53] <Akuli> I wish others would know these freezing fixing things too :)
[08:53] <Akuli> DiamondSword: apt-mark hold
[08:53] <Ben64> DiamondSword: don't
[08:53] <DiamondSword> what?
[08:53] <Ben64> you need to upgrade the kernel
[08:53] <Akuli> sudo apt-mark hold linux-*
[08:53] <joakimk> Ben64: yes, thanks
[08:54] <Ben64> Akuli: don't suggest that please
[08:54] <Akuli> That's just me, i don't advice others to do that :)
[08:54] <Akuli> It's really a personal choice between being fully up to date or having a slightly more reliable system
[08:54] <superfirelord42> anes_: It looks like a permissions issue. I assume your running that as a user, what permissions is the folder /usr/local/android-sdk-linux ?
[08:54] <Ben64> Akuli: there's no hit to reliability
[08:54] <Akuli> Says the ubuntu user.
[08:54] <Ben64> Akuli: this is #ubuntu
[08:55] <Akuli> If we go ask the mint helpers they'll complitely disagree and mint is basically ubuntu anyway :)
[08:55] <Akuli> But that's just my opinion anyway.
[08:55] <Ben64> and the mint site got hacked and bogus isos were distributed
[08:55] <Akuli> Yes, that's why i don't use it.
[08:55] <Akuli> But i doubt their servers were running mint anyway.
[08:56] <Akuli> There are no offical non-gui versions of mint.
[08:56] <anes_> superfirelord42: but I login as root i got message on android command as android: command not found
[08:56] <Ben64> Akuli: doesn't matter, don't tell people to make their system less secure
[08:56] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[08:57] <Akuli> Ok Ben64 :)
[08:57] <Akuli> Hi OnkelTem
[08:57] <superfirelord42> anes_: hopefully you shouldn’t run any of it as root. all of the android sdk is a user program. I normally don’t put it in a shared location personally. I put it in /home/myname/libraries or something myself :P
[08:58] <Ben64> anes_: how did you install the sdk
[08:59] <anes_> Ben64: by download the file and unzip .. I give it details here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/758265/could-not-install-platform-tools-on-ubuntu-15-10
[08:59] <superfirelord42> anes_: can I get the one output line from “ls -ld /usr/local/android-sdk-linux” ? It will tell me your folder user/permissions.
[08:59] <Ben64> anes_: that's not the supported way to install it
[08:59] <anes_> Ben64: please advise then
[08:59] <OnkelTem> How to associate URL schema with an application? For example, I want Phpstorm to be associated with "phpstorm://" urls
[09:00] <anes_> superfirelord42: drwxrwxr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 17 13:13 /usr/local/android-sdk-linux
[09:00] <superfirelord42> anes_: yep, its owned by root….
[09:01] <Ben64> anes_: you can "sudo apt-get install android-studio"
[09:01] <Akuli> Shouldn't he purge the manual installation first?
[09:01] <anes_> Ben64: that will install all automatically?
[09:01] <superfirelord42> wow, when did they add that 0.o? (Don’t answer, I will go check)
[09:01] <Ben64> anes_: depends exactly what you want to accomplish
[09:02] <Ben64> anes_: you trying to make your own android apps or just run adb or...?
[09:02] <anes_> Ben64: I need to develop app in Cordova
[09:02] <joakimk> join #c++
[09:03] <Ben64> anes_: android-studio should work, but you'll have to set up cordova separately
[09:03] <anes_> Ben64: just path right?
[09:03] <Ben64> i've never used cordova, so i'm not sure
[09:04] <anes_> How much space need for android studio installation?
[09:04] <Ben64> depends on what options you pick
[09:04] <anes_> ok
[09:05] <anes_> Ben64: I got error in that command
[09:05] <anes_> Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package android-studio
[09:05] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu
[09:05] <anes_> 15.10
[09:05] <EtaleSite> Hi guys. I just re-installed my Ubuntu. It doesn't detect any wifi. I download the deb for bcmwl and installed it, but it didn't help. I'm not sure that was the right thing to do.
[09:06] <superfirelord42> Ben64: I cannot seem to find that package in the ubuntu package search system online (packages.ubuntu.com)
[09:06] <superfirelord42> Could that be a seperate ppa?
[09:06] <Ben64> whoops, i got mine somewhere else, thought it was in ubuntu, sorry
[09:07] <superfirelord42> anes_: So, i can think of 2 ways to fix it. 1) Change the permissions on your current setup. 2) Re-setup the installation into your home folder.
[09:07] <superfirelord42> Unless we can find a PPA for android-studio
[09:07] <anes_> superfirelord42 : how to do first way ?
[09:08] <Ben64> i'd recommend putting it in your home folder
[09:08] <anes_> ok
[09:08] <EtaleSite> Anyone...?
[09:08] <superfirelord42> I agree with Ben64, anes_, however the first way would be done with a recursive chown.
[09:08] <anes_> oh then we can do second way
[09:09] <superfirelord42> anes_: Then simply download the sdk and place it into your home folder. Unzip it without using root.
[09:09] <anes_> ok
[09:12] <anes_> superfirelord42, Ben64: Then what I do?
[09:13] <Ben64> then you run it
[09:13] <superfirelord42> run the tools/android program
[09:13] <anes_> ok
[09:13] <anes_> root@insight:~/android-sdk-linux/tools# android android: command not found
[09:14] <Ben64> why are you doing this as root
[09:14] <anes_> sorry
[09:14] <superfirelord42> same question
[09:16] <anes_> still same problem anes@insight:~/android-sdk-linux/tools$ android android: command not found
[09:17] <superfirelord42> anes_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15889147/ is the commands I would use give or take to download and run teh application.
[09:17] <Ben64> you'll need to do something like ./android
[09:17] <superfirelord42> anes_: make sure you are doing ./android
[09:17] <anes_> ok
[09:17] <anes_> got bash: ./android: Permission denied
[09:18] <Ben64> anes_: ls -ld ./android
[09:18] <anes_> Ben64: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3498 Oct 14  2015 ./android
[09:19] <Ben64> why is it owned by root? why isn't it executable?
[09:19] <superfirelord42> anes_: try deleting that directory again that you created and running the commands in this pastebin one at a time. Tell me if you get an error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/15889147/
[09:20] <anes_> ok
[09:23] <anes_> superfirelord42, Ben64: now show the Android sdk manager
[09:24] <superfirelord42> try doing what you were doing earlier to download the sdk parts you needed :)
[09:24] <anes_> ok
[09:24] <superfirelord42> (The part that had the errors earlier)
[09:24] <anes_> thanks alot may i check
[09:24] <superfirelord42> sure :)
[09:35] <Guest31111> how do I convert hevc raw data to a valid format ?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> Guest31111, it's not invalid.  install the h.65 codecs
[09:37] <Guest31111> how do I understand what is the actual data format present in it ?
[09:37] <Guest31111> ie. if it's mp3 or mp4 etc
[09:38] <cfhowlett> Guest31111, again ... install the codecs
[09:38] <Guest31111> and
[09:38] <Guest31111> all I'm having is a data_hevc.raw file
[09:38] <cfhowlett> ffmpeg -i  or avconv -i for detailed info or file foo for basic info
[09:38] <Guest31111> I head taht ffmpeg is deprecated. Is it?
[09:38] <Guest31111> *heard
[09:39] <Ben64> no
[09:39] <cfhowlett> was but the 2 teams have kissed and made up.  ffmpeg is returning
[09:39] <Ben64> it was removed from ubuntu for a while though
[09:39] <Guest31111> cool ^_^
[09:39] <Guest31111> so how do I install the new one ?
[09:39] <cfhowlett> Guest31111, see this http://geeksterminal.com/install-h265-hevc-codec-ubuntu/1900/
[09:40] <Guest31111> cfhowlett: I'm not sure what I have with me is what you think it is
[09:40] <Guest31111> because how will file command identify a raw data file ?
[09:40] <Guest31111> out.raw: data
[09:40] <cfhowlett> entirely possible that I misunderstood
[09:41] <Guest31111> What I want is to convert a hevc encoded file and not to load an hevc encoded file in a media player and play it
[09:42] <cfhowlett> if you do not have the codec you will not be able to transcode
[09:42] <Guest31111> I see
[09:42] <Guest31111> I could not find a package named ffmpeg in repo
[09:42] <cfhowlett> libav-tools contains avconv
[09:43] <cfhowlett> same command format at ffmpeg
[09:43] <Guest31111> so after I install that I'll have to install h.265 codecs right ?
[09:43] <Guest31111> err. hevc codecs
[09:43] <cfhowlett> such was my experience
[09:44] <Guest31111> okay, thanks. I'll try that
[09:45] <qzx> hi
[09:45] <Guest31111> how do I find what the output format is using avconv
[09:45] <Guest31111> ?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Guest31111, avconv -i foo.mkv will return the basic file info
[09:45] <Guest31111> I don't have foo.mkv
[09:45] <Guest31111> I have a raw data file
[09:45] <Guest31111> binary data
[09:45] <cfhowlett> ..............
[09:46] <cfhowlett> "foo" is a common placeholder in linux speak for an unknown file name.  substitute your own info where you see "foo.mkv"
[09:46] <calebmillerkb3> Anyone here use borg for backups?
[09:47] <superfirelord42> We are the borg! Your operating system destinctiveness will be added to our own?
[09:47] <kapcom01> hello, I get kernel panic with every kernel that I have tested. I am on Probook 4530s with the latest bios version. Until yesterday the only kernel that was working was 4.2-22 but suddenly not even this is able to boot. I installed many kernels using chroot and a live usb but with no luck. Can anyone help me? Thanks.
[09:48] <Guest31111> cfhowlett: I know foo bar ^_^ I did not mean that
[09:48] <Guest31111> I meant that I don't have a fully fledged media file of known header/extension
[09:48] <Guest31111> I have raw data file
[09:48] <cfhowlett> have you run it past avconv -i?
[09:48] <calebmillerkb3> alright, then a more general question -- does ssh have a default location it will automatically look for a pubkey, or must it be done via cli params?
[09:48] <Guest31111> yep
[09:49] <Guest31111> out.raw: Invalid data found when processing input
[09:49] <cfhowlett> ah, then I was wrong.  sorry, Guest31111 .  is this live streaming data?
[09:49] <Guest31111> I'll send you head of hexdump
[09:49] <cfhowlett> and have you installed the h.265 codecs
[09:49] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: yes, I believe the .ssh directory. I am looking up this borg thing now. Looks interesting. I may need to start using this.
[09:49] <Guest31111> http://pastebin.com/rgVB3gbB
[09:50] <cfhowlett> and have you installed the h.265 codecs
[09:50] <Guest31111> doing that as we speak
[09:51] <calebmillerkb3> superfirelord42: Thankies. I'm finishing setting it up now to allow for remote backups from various family members to my home server (via cygwin). Last step of the puzzle was getting ssh to automatically test for a key to allow my script to run without interaction.
[09:51] <Guest31111> sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libde265
[09:51] <Guest31111> sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-libde265
[09:51] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: are you talking about authorized keys? like would be in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[09:51] <Guest31111> these will suffice right ^ ?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> should do it.
[09:51] <calebmillerkb3> superfirelord42: yes, but on the connecting client
[09:52] <calebmillerkb3> I have the key added to the hosts authorized_keys, but it doesn't seem like borg has a parameter for passing the keyfile.
[09:52] <Guest31111> still out.raw: Invalid data found when processing input
[09:52] <cfhowlett> Guest31111, is your data stream available online?  I can test
[09:53] <cfhowlett> comparison ...  I'm on 14.04.3  http://geeksterminal.com/install-h265-hevc-codec-ubuntu/1900/
[09:53] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: you need the public key or the private key to be read automatically? I generally use ssh-agent to load my keyfiles
[09:53] <cfhowlett> http://geeksterminal.com/install-h265-hevc-codec-ubuntu/1900/
[09:54] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: but you can probably do it via ssh_config
[09:54] <cfhowlett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15889778/
[09:54] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: take a look at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/create-ssh-config-file-on-linux-unix/ I think its got what  your talking about if I understand.
[09:54] <Ben64> hmm, ubuntu repositories being weird right now
[09:55] <calebmillerkb3> superfirelord42: Ive probably set it up incorrectly; first tie working with ssh rsa keys. I created the key on my client machine, moved the private key to reoteuser@host:~/.ssh/, then performed cat $privatekey >> authorized_keys
[09:56] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: authorized_keys should have public keys, not private.
[09:56] <calebmillerkb3> superfirelord42: heh, let me go double check what's in there
[09:57] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: the private key is kept on the orgin machine (and not shared because its private). Public keys are then used to verify that the signature generated from the private key is valid.
[09:57] <superfirelord42> (mostly)
[09:57] <calebmillerkb3> and i assume when the private key is generated it is put in the default location where ssh checks for them?
[09:58] <calebmillerkb3> superfirelord42: looks like I told you incorrectly, I do have the public key in authorized_keys, not the private
[09:59] <calebmillerkb3> superfirelord42: although I did use the -F parameter when generating the key to choose which file, so the private key is residing in the local client's home folder
[09:59] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3 I assume it saved the private key to .ssh/id_rsa or id_dsa or similar?
[10:00] <calebmillerkb3> superfirelord42: ah, found one way -- you can set the id_rsa file's location in the client's .ssh/config
[10:00] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: yepper, that was on the cyberciti link I sent earlier. You can set the username, hostname, port, etc so you can just call it by an alias
[10:01] <superfirelord42> calebmillerkb3: I have my alias as caarl
[10:01] <calebmillerkb3> ahhah, thanks, fifn't realize that's the one  was looking at. Million tabs open. Thanks, caarl. How can I set an irc alias?
[10:01] <calebmillerkb3>  /alias <val>?
[10:02] <superfirelord42> I think its /nick
[10:02] <cmkb3> caarl: /nick changed my name
[10:02] <superfirelord42> (Carl not name, caarl just what I called my ssh server) :P
[10:03] <cmkb3> lmao. Sorry, I thought you meant 'stop typing superfirelord42 in irc, I have an alias set to caarl [which is much shorter]'
[10:03] <superfirelord42> so I just “ssh caarl” due to my set up Host in the config file
[10:04] <Guest82106> Should I upgrade to 16.04LTS from 15.10 or should I do a clean install of 16.04LTS when it is released?
[10:06] <cmkb3> superfirelord42: Hah, yeah, simplest resolution was to do a mv $customnamedkeyfile ~/.ssh/id_rsa  . Passwordless login works now ( :
[10:06] <superfirelord42> cmkb3: awesome!
[10:07] <anes_> superfirelord42,Ben64: Now not show any target in avd creation why?
[10:07] <superfirelord42> cmkb3: just in case, I should mention, if these are scripted and the key is not encrypted, anyone who gets that key can get into your remote server. (I feel I have to mention it)
[10:07] <\9> Guest82106: depends on whether or not you want to help with testing 16.04
[10:07] <\9> Guest82106: if you actually use your computer for production, it's better to wait until release
[10:08] <\9> it's just a week away anyway :P
[10:08] <cmkb3> superfirelord42: Yeah, I haven't restricted commands to that key yet. They will all be accessing the same user on my home server, si it shouldn't take that much effort to harden it a little.
[10:08] <superfirelord42> anes_: you have to create one? I cannot do much more than sdk setup on that. I personally code in Java, not C++
[10:09] <anes_> i try to create one using android avd command
[10:09] <superfirelord42> cmkb3: cool, just figured if I didn’t mention it in passing, I would be a tad bit negligent. :P
[10:09] <Guest82106> \9: If I upgrade to 16.04LTS from 15.10, are there any problems with doing that, and will it be stable? Thanks mate.
[10:09] <anes_> but in that list not show any target to select
[10:09] <superfirelord42> anes_: I do that all in android studio though. Although normally you have to create a target.
[10:10] <cmkb3> superfirelord42: Thanks for the concern. ^_^ Did you say you were planning on messing with borg?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> Guest31111, OK, bit if research completed.  I'm fairly sure you have some sort of image file.  Panasonic and Leica cameras both produce such files.  I've taken a run at your sample with all of my .raw editing tools and none of them work.  If you have an alternate file from the source, I'd be happy to try again.  failing that, don't know what to tell you.
[10:10] <anes_> superfirelord42: ok
[10:10] <superfirelord42> I am reading it now. I don’t have the setup atm to test it, but its earmarked for future use
[10:10] <\9> Guest82106: probably not. but remember that since it's unreleased there's no support for it, e.g. here
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Guest82106, you can't wait a week for official release??
[10:11] <\9> Guest82106: if you upgrade to 16.04 now and get affected with a problem, you can't ask for help for it in here
[10:12] <\9> because we don't support 16.04 in here (yet)
[10:12] <\9> Guest82106: and you'll need to upgrade to the released version again anyway
[10:14] <cmkb3> ugh, I have no sense of time when I'm troubleshooting/scripting
[10:14] <cmkb3> I swear it was date-5 hours about 10 minutes ago
[10:15] <Guest82106> \9: I was going upgrade to 16.04LTS when it is released, so I was asking if there would be any issues (such as stability) if I upgraded from 15.10.
[10:16] <superfirelord42> cmkb3: yeah, i lost track of time here too, its almost time to wake up.
[10:16] <Ben64> Guest82106: the upgrades usually go fairly easily. it gets harder the more PPAs and 3rd party stuff you got going on
[10:16] <cfhowlett> Guest82106, I run only LTS as a sanity check.  I will not upgrade from 14.04 until 16.04.1 is released in October.  again: sanity.
[10:16] <cfhowlett> YMMV
[10:16] <cmkb3> superfirelord42: I feel ya. Thanks again for the help!
[10:17] <superfirelord42> no prob, thanks for bringing a new program for me to learn, lol
[10:17] <Ben64> cfhowlett: 15.10 is EOL in July though :)
[10:17] <cfhowlett> yep.  he has a choice to make.
[10:30] <MyCuriosity> Is there a desktop environment for ubuntu that provides small desktop titlebars like in Windows classic ?
[10:30] <MyCuriosity> I would like to keep that hight to a minimum, it takes so much space
[10:31] <bekks> MyCuriosity: Dont assume that Windows desktop appearance is known in here ;)
[10:32] <ratrace> MyCuriosity: smaller than they are? that'd be difficult, but there are some such themes for xfce4
[10:32] <bekks> For KDE, there are themes too.
[10:33] <epicCane> Can my computer run ubuntu http://postimg.org/image/enuwm4zb5/
[10:33] <bekks> epicCane: Specify the specs instead.
[10:33] <Akuli> epicCane: Any computer that can run windows can run ubuntu if you choose the right ubuntu version :)
[10:33] <ratrace> epicCane: probably not with a GUI
[10:33] <epicCane> I have 64 mb of ram and p2 cpu
[10:34] <epicCane> and 1gb of disk space
[10:34] <Akuli> epicCane: Right, without a GUI it'd be great.
[10:34] <bekks> epicCane: basically forget it.
[10:34] <Akuli> Or probably not.
[10:34] <ratrace> it'd make a cool router school project
[10:34] <Akuli> epicCane: How are you chatting now? I don't see an xchat desktop icon :D
[10:34] <bekks> ratrace: It would have made, two decades ago ;)
[10:35] <ratrace> bekks: well actually that p2 is probably more powerful than many of todays low spec arm consumer routers :)
[10:35] <epicCane> Would a PI3 be more powerful
[10:36] <Akuli> Likely it would.
[10:36] <bekks> epicCane: Why not using some recent computer?
[10:36] <anes_> superfirelord42,Ben64: when I launch emulator I get error as : https://s24.postimg.org/vm3ni3kqt/Android+Emulator+prblm.png
[10:36] <epicCane> I am fixing a old person computer
[10:37] <bekks> epicCane: That person needs a current computer.
[10:37] <cfhowlett> epicCane, lubuntu would be the best hope ...
[10:37] <bekks> epicCane: Not some Windows 98 stuff.
[10:37] <epicCane> Windows 98 is not that bad
[10:37] <Akuli> epicCane: No need to buy a new computer, you'll probably get something meant for windows xp for really cheap.
[10:37] <ratrace> a troll is a troll is a troll...  https://winworldpc.com/screenshots/windows-98/98-second-edition
[10:37] <bekks> epicCane: It is dead for a long time.
[10:38] <ratrace> screenshot taken from there
[10:38] <Akuli> Lubuntu or ubuntu mate would run just fine on an old xp computer..
[10:38] <cfhowlett> aaaaaaaaand he's gone
[10:38] <linocisco> hi all, wifi is not automatically detected and loaded without any full network configuration?
[10:38] <Akuli> ratrace: Well found.
[10:38] <ratrace> heh heh heh.... detrolled. :)
[10:38] <linocisco> hi all, wifi is not automatically detected and loaded without any full network configuration
[10:38] <Akuli> That was a nice question though
[10:39] <FManTropyx> hi
[10:39] <cfhowlett> ratrace, damn good detective work there, son!
[10:39] <Akuli> Hi FManTropyx
[10:39] <Akuli> google images and search by image, i guess :D
[10:39] <ratrace> cfhowlett: yeah, right click in chromium and search for image... :)
[10:39] <FManTropyx> should I always run update before upgrade with apt-get?
[10:39] <ratrace> Akuli: of course :)
[10:39] <linocisco> even after login, wifi is not connected while bluetooth is on. I have to manually press wifi+bluetooth button on and off (toggle) to activate wifi. after only 4 mins , wifi start connecting
[10:39] <bekks> FManTropyx: Sure.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> FManTropyx, yes
[10:41] <FManTropyx> ok, thanks
[10:41] <cfhowlett> FManTropyx, and you should run apt-get dist-upgrade       from time to tie
[10:41] <Akuli> Aptitude is another nice alternative
[10:42] <Akuli> If you run sudo aptitude without any args its a nice semi-gui :)
[10:42] <FManTropyx> I was wonder it might make sense to have atp-get just update the lists automatically before upgrade (unless forbidden with an option)
[10:42] <Akuli> FManTropyx: You could make a custom script to do that.
[10:42] <Akuli> FManTropyx: Or even just an alias
[10:42] <bekks> FManTropyx: "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade;"
[10:42] <FManTropyx> right
[10:43] <FManTropyx> yeah, I'll try to run upgrade every once in a while, tnx
[10:43] <cariveri> Hi. setting up a Lua interface on VLC using a specific port. do I have to open that port somehow for the network to let it through? perhaps on the router?
[10:43] <Akuli> You could add to your .bashrc without ": "alias myupdate='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:43] <Akuli> i mean: "alias myupdate='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'"
[10:43] <Akuli> Then you could just run myupdate to apt-get update and upgrade :)
[10:44] <FManTropyx> yup, and dist-upgrade actually does what upgrade does plus updates the system packages
[10:45] <bekks> FManTropyx: using apt is recommended nowadays.
[10:45] <Akuli> Why?
[10:45] <bekks> Because it doesnt skip packages for various reasons.
[10:45] <Akuli> Why not aptitude then? apt is basically a wrapper for apt-get anyway but aptitude would be something more modern if that's what we want.
[10:46] <cfhowlett> apt is not merely apt-get
[10:46] <bekks> Akuli: aptitude is as old as apt-get. apt is the way to go.
[10:46] <Akuli> No, its newer than apt-get
[10:46] <Akuli> But not much.
[10:46] <Akuli> Way better anyway
[10:46] <bekks> Akuli: A million years isnt much for a dinosaur...
[10:46] <Akuli> Alright, i'll let you keep your opinions :)
[10:47] <bekks> Akuli: You should take a look at apt then.
[10:47] <Akuli> Bah, i'll use apt-get :D
[10:47] <bekks> Whatever.
[10:47] <Guest8243> Hi all, on: troubleshooting --> What would my first steps be, when I've had a system freeze yesterday ?
[10:48] <matthias___> Hello, i have a small cubietruck with an nfs share. when i want to read files the transfer suddenly hangs. the same occurs when i download files via http
[10:48] <bekks> Guest8243: You should have taken a look at the logs, immediately after rebooting.
[10:48] <Akuli> Guest8243: Check graphics drivers and upgrade kernel if the freezing continues.
[10:48] <matthias___> which logs etc. do you need?
[10:48] <Guest8243> What exactly do I look for there ?
[10:48] <bekks> Akuli: Dont do that without investigating the reason for the freezes.
[10:48] <bekks> Guest8243: Problems.
[10:48] <Akuli> A new kernel never really hurts anyway :)
[10:48] <bekks> Akuli: It may break your box.
[10:48] <Akuli> Just fixes a bunch of issues
[10:49] <Akuli> Sure, thats why we can load the old one with grub.
[10:49] <Akuli> And that's why i hold my kernel packages :D
[10:49] <Akuli> People just 100% disagree about all this stuff.
[10:49] <bekks> Correct. Because blindly updfating packages isnt a safe way to go.
[10:49] <Akuli> Right
[10:49] <bekks> And thats what you proposed.
[10:50] <Akuli> Unless you can still use the old one, like you can with kernels.
[10:50] <Guest8243> Let's say the kernel wasn't updated for a while but ran OK - so  I guess it's not a kernel issue ?
[10:50] <Akuli> Then not
[10:50] <bekks> Guest8243: Dont guess. Investigate the logs.
[10:50] <Akuli> But a new kernel can fix a bunch of stuff
[10:50] <bekks> Akuli: How do you know without investigating the logs?
[10:50] <Akuli> I've helped tons of people on linux mint's channels.
[10:50] <Guest8243> Back to: What do I look for therein ?
[10:50] <bekks> Akuli: Mint is irrelevant in here.
[10:50] <Akuli> bekks: Yes, probably a good idea anyway.
[10:51] <bekks> Guest8243: Problems.
[10:51] <Akuli> But its basically ubuntu with a bunch of stuff screwed up.
[10:51] <cfhowlett> it is NOT ubuntu.
[10:51] <Akuli> That's true, sure :)
[10:51] <cfhowlett> nor is it supported here.
[10:51] <Akuli> Right
[10:51] <brainwash> !mint
[10:51] <Akuli> And no, i don't need !mint
[10:51] <Akuli> hmm
[10:51] <Akuli> mentioning !mint does that appearanetly too...
[10:51] <brainwash> :>
[10:51] <Akuli> Oh you did that.
[10:51] <Akuli> Ok :)
[10:51] <Guest8243> !Problems
[10:52] <bekks> Guest8243: You actually need to look at the logs to see whats in there.
[10:52] <Guest8243> !problems
[10:52] <cfhowlett> Guest8243, stop doing that.
[10:53] <Guest8243> bekks: You're kidding me ? How many time can one spend reading log files w/o knowing what to look for ...
[10:53] <bekks> Guest8243: How do you expect us to know what is in YOUR log files? YOU need to look at them.
[10:53] <Guest8243> cfhowlett: Waht am I doing ?
[10:53] <bekks> Guest8243: No one in here has a glass orb.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> and Ms. Cleo has retired
[10:57] <matthias___> Hello, i have a small cubietruck with an nfs share. when i want to read files the transfer suddenly hangs. the same occurs when i download files via http
[10:57] <matthias___> which logs etc. do you need?
[11:02] <sruli> Is three someone around with experience of using TPM and secureboot (proper scureboot which will disallow unsigned kernels) I need someone to help me with this for payment
[11:05] <_0xbadc0de> guys
[11:05] <_0xbadc0de> my kubunto desktop is behaving in a weird way
[11:06] <Akuli> I think there's also #kubuntu
[11:06] <bekks> sruli: This channel is based on volunteers. Start asking your actual question, and someone will help you, if someone knows an answer.
[11:06] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: So which Ubuntu do you use, and what does your desktop do?
[11:07] <hendIBT> join
[11:07] <matthias___> this is the dmesg log: https://bpaste.net/show/04cfbf9b929c
[11:07] <Tercus> when I try to install ubuntu 16.04 (beta2), the installer always complains about misaligned partitions. It does so even though I let it decide the partitions itself
[11:08] <_0xbadc0de> lol what the hell I just did reboot and it worked
[11:08] <_0xbadc0de> lol
[11:08] <bekks> matthias___: that log is pretty much irrelevant since it is far too new.
[11:08] <matthias___> bekks: so which one do you need?
[11:09] <matthias___> bekks: but the problem occures in this time interval
[11:09] <hendIBT> halo ubuntu
[11:09] <sruli> bekks: i want to secure my laptop against attacks like evil maid, problem with secureboot and ubuntu (grub) is that grub does not warn if kernel is unsigned which renders secureboot useless. how can i ensure secure boot with ubuntu (doal boot with win) also can TPM add security and how
[11:09] <_0xbadc0de> nopw
[11:09] <_0xbadc0de> nope
[11:09] <bekks> matthias___: And, then it matches. Did you investigate the other logs as well?
[11:09] <_0xbadc0de> it doesn't work
[11:09] <_0xbadc0de> http://puu.sh/oltWZ/e3b7254942.jpg
[11:10] <_0xbadc0de> help?
[11:10] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: Did you check wether your harddrive is full?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> _0xbadc0de, is this in a virtual machine?
[11:11] <_0xbadc0de> yeah
[11:11] <_0xbadc0de> I have allocated 60 Gb to it
[11:11] <_0xbadc0de> let me check
[11:11] <cfhowlett> should not be anywhere near full then
[11:12] <_0xbadc0de> yeah this is a fresh install
[11:12] <_0xbadc0de> I basically installed kde
[11:12] <VlanY> Hello. I am looking for somethjing like putty but with support for Xmodem. What could I use?
[11:12] <bekks> VlanY: minicom?
[11:13] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: whats the full output of "df -h"?
[11:13] <_0xbadc0de> I just can't do anything at this point
[11:14] <_0xbadc0de> the thing crashes and then forwards me to boot screen
[11:14] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: You can. Log in on a text console, after pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[11:14] <_0xbadc0de> k
[11:14] <matthias___> bekks: i can't find anything, but the hanging file-transfers also occur with apache http
[11:15] <\9> _0xbadc0de: looks like your permissions are screwed up. go to a terminal like how specified before and do `ls -la` in your home directory
[11:15] <\9> _0xbadc0de: who owns the files? (third column)
[11:16] <_0xbadc0de> ok just booting
[11:17] <bekks> matthias___: So look at the apache logs as well.
[11:17] <VlanY> bekks: I will try this one, thasnk you.
[11:17] <bekks> matthias___: And besides that, you have severe NFS issues, as can be seen in your dmesg log.
[11:17] <\9> _0xbadc0de: also check the permissions of your actual home directory with `sudo ls -ld $HOME`
[11:18] <\9> actually leave the sudo out for now
[11:18] <\9> ls -ld $HOME should reveal the permissions of the home directory
[11:18] <\9> (I was thinking that if the permissions are very screwed up then nonpriviledged ls would fail)
[11:19] <_0xbadc0de> yeah
[11:19] <_0xbadc0de> I tried ctrl+alt+f1 and didn't work
[11:19] <_0xbadc0de> but this shouldn't happen
[11:20] <_0xbadc0de> this is a amd64 fresh netinstall
[11:20] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: So you need to reboot and log in into a text terminal.
[11:20] <geirha> not even root can execute a file without the executable bit
[11:20] <_0xbadc0de> not sure if I did the right thing and called xinit instead of xstart
[11:20] <_0xbadc0de> or startx
[11:20] <_0xbadc0de> or whatever
[11:20] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: Doesnt matter.
[11:20] <\9> don't start X at all
[11:20] <matthias___> bekks: no errors in /var/log/apache2/error.log  , just my download speed went to 0kb/s
[11:20] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: You need to provide the information requested.
[11:21] <matthias___> bekks: i downloaded with curl -o /dev/null
[11:21] <bekks> matthias___: So fix your NFS issues first.
[11:22] <_0xbadc0de> but I keep on pressing ctrl+alt+f1 and it doesn't work
[11:22] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: So you need to reboot and log in into a text terminal.
[11:22] <_0xbadc0de> it goes regardlessly to GUI mode
[11:22] <_0xbadc0de> well how do I do that?
[11:23] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: By powering off your computer and back on?
[11:23] <_0xbadc0de> the part where it goes to a text terminal
[11:23] <neosuse> hola
[11:23] <neosuse> buenas tardes
[11:23] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: you can select that at the login prompt.
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> !es | neosuse
[11:23] <_0xbadc0de> ah ok
[11:24] <_0xbadc0de> http://puu.sh/oluAL/a25dad1adf.jpg
[11:24] <_0xbadc0de> where?
[11:25] <_0xbadc0de> http://puu.sh/oluCV/3a54009dc8.jpg
[11:25] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: What happens when you press ctrl+alt+f1 now?
[11:26] <_0xbadc0de> hmm works
[11:26] <_0xbadc0de> but there was a subtle thing
[11:26] <_0xbadc0de> you need to press alt+f1 first or ctrl+f1 first
[11:26] <_0xbadc0de> otherwise it will be captured by vmware
[11:27] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: Well, you should have told that from the beginning.
[11:28] <\9> _0xbadc0de: can you now inspect the permissions of your home directory with ls?
[11:28] <\9> and the disk space use with df?
[11:29] <_0xbadc0de> http://puu.sh/oluNa/611e921227.png
[11:30] <Crysp> People, does the 16 beta version also get an update to the final version when it finally releases? I dont want to re-install everything again.
[11:30] <_0xbadc0de> http://puu.sh/oluQo/22142cc66e.png
[11:30] <bekks> Crysp: Yes.
[11:30] <_0xbadc0de> so.....help?
[11:30] <Crysp> bekks: great!
[11:31] <snufft> hi guys :) I'm running gnome on ubuntu 14.04 and am having trouble with my monitors not turning off. the machine goes into suspend mode properly, but the monitors stay on with just a blank screen. i've had a bit of a google, but nothing I find is really matching my problem. does anyone have any suggestions?
[11:32] <geirha> _0xbadc0de: Does this output anything?  find ~ ! -user "$USER" -ls
[11:32] <bekks> snufft: set a timout in the OSD of your monitors.
[11:33] <_0xbadc0de> http://puu.sh/oluYW/233a37571d.png
[11:33] <_0xbadc0de> cant I have the same permission levels as 'root'? maybe this would fix it?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> !
[11:33] <geirha> right. so all those files owned by root is a problem
[11:33] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: why did you use sudo chown -R root:root in the past, in your home? :)
[11:34] <geirha> You've run something with sudo, that you shouldn't have run with sudo
[11:34] <_0xbadc0de> I didn't
[11:34] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: Well, the system didnt, either.
[11:34] <_0xbadc0de> so what can i do?
[11:34] <geirha> sudo find ~ ! -user "$USER" -exec chown -v "$USER:" {} +
[11:35] <_0xbadc0de> http://puu.sh/olv73/abd03684a0.png
[11:35] <geirha> my guess would be that you've run xinit or startx with sudo to cause this problem
[11:36] <snufft> bekks, thanks for the reply :) I've got what I -think- is the timeout setting, set to 15 mins. just trying to find a manual to double check :)
[11:36] <_0xbadc0de> sudo <that> seemed to work
[11:36] <_0xbadc0de> reboot?
[11:36] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: nope. ctrl+alt+f8, login.
[11:37] <_0xbadc0de> "_0xbadc0de: nope. ctrl+alt+f8, login." - its not very effective
[11:37] <_0xbadc0de> in other words
[11:37] <_0xbadc0de> nothing happened
[11:38] <bekks> because you are in a vmware, as you stated above.
[11:38] <bekks> use ctrl+f8 etc.
[11:38] <mahmoud> hi
[11:38] <_0xbadc0de> yeah still didnt work
[11:38] <_0xbadc0de> cant I reboot?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: sure you can.
[11:39] <_0xbadc0de> gr8
[11:39] <geirha> what didn't work? switching to the graphical login screen? or logging in?
[11:39] <_0xbadc0de> switching
[11:39] <matthias___> bekks: i cant find any errors on the nfs server
[11:40] <anheru> hello
[11:40] <sruli> is there anyone that can help with securing boot (or TPM), i will pay for your time
[11:40] <bekks> matthias___: then take a look at your dmesg log again.
[11:40] <_0xbadc0de> WORKXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[11:40] <_0xbadc0de> U MOTHERFUCKERZ (srsly thank you for your successfull effort)
[11:41] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: Now your keyboard is broken, it is using shift and repeating characters at random.
[11:41] <_0xbadc0de> lulz
[11:41] <cfhowlett> and the unwelcome obscenity ...
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> sruli: there's no paid support in this channel, ask your specific question?
[11:41] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: I wasnt joking.
[11:42] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i asked many times over past week, no response, getting desperate
[11:42] <anheru> anybody knows how to solve problem with wpa_supplicant (have to kill it every time when wifi stop work)?
[11:42] <_0xbadc0de> whats the standard file explorer
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> sruli: patience and ask your question as specific possible
[11:42] <_0xbadc0de> in ubuntu?
[11:43] <sruli> lotuspsychje:  i want to secure my laptop against attacks like evil maid, problem with secureboot and ubuntu (grub) is that grub does not warn if kernel is unsigned which renders secureboot useless. how can i ensure secure boot with ubuntu (dual boot with win) also can TPM add security and how
[11:43] <_0xbadc0de> cause since this is a netinst
[11:43] <_0xbadc0de> I need to install everything
[11:44] <\9> ah sorry, I got distractedg
[11:44] <\9> so it indeed was a permissions problem
[11:44] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <_0xbadc0de> already did that
[11:44] <_0xbadc0de> I am afraid
[11:45] <bekks> _0xbadc0de: That will install a full Ubuntu desktop.
[11:45] <snufft> bekks, turns out I was editing the wrong setting. hopefully it works this time :) thanks heaps!
[11:45] <snufft> bekks++
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> sruli: if you keep your ubuntu up to date, and harden your system exploits will have less chance to intrude
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> sruli: the windows part we cant support here
[11:49] <sruli> lotuspsychje: the problem is not windows, the problem is that even with secure boot grub allows boot to continue even if kernel is unsigned and does not warn user
[11:49] <hendIBT> funk ubuntu on backtrack
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> hendIBT: you have been told before to stop that
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> sruli: evil maid is an exploit, the first step is to secure your system not allowing them in the first place
[11:51] <sruli> lotuspsychje: how do i secure against that exploit without secure boot?
[11:52] <Apachez> sruli: why not keep your boot on a usb drive which you always takes with you?
[11:53] <Apachez> this way theres very little for that evil maid to attack
[11:53] <Apachez> except for firmware on bios and cd/dvd drive and harddrive itself
[11:53] <sruli> Apachez: i have considered that but cant do it for various reasons
[11:54] <matthias___> bekks: still having the problem, but the dmesg logs on client and server don't show anything. the previous one hadn't occured again
[11:55] <Apachez> sruli: which are those reasons?
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> !security | sruli
[11:55] <matthias___> bekks: if one transfer is running with 0 kb/s i can start a second one parallel which has full speed again
[11:55] <Apachez> you could for example use a usb drive with its own pinpad and boot in readonly mode
[11:55] <hendIBT> join ubuntu wkwkwkwkwkwwk
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> sruli: keep system up to date, intrusion detectors, dont save sensitive data on your local pc,...
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> !ops | hendIBT known troll
[11:56] <Apachez> dotn connect the computer to internet and other untrusted sources if you deal with sensitive data
[11:56] <Apachez> etc etc etc
[11:56] <sruli> lotuspsychje: what use is encrypted FS if i cant store senseetive data on it
[11:57] <gregf> I just tried fetching the 16.04 daily image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ and it appears it doesn't contain zfs am I doing something wrong?
[11:58] <matthias___> bekks: now after ~3 minutes the transfer continues
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> sruli: what if an attacker wants your sensitive data? and picks you?
[11:58] <matthias___> bekks: really confusing, not able to reproduce the error
[11:59] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i am trying to secure as much as possible i know its impossible to secure 100% to protect against malicious bootloader is one of the stpes to protect
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> sruli: this is only my opinion, if you have sensitive data and dont want anyone to steal it, or exploit it remotely, dont store it localy but external (and burry under the ground)
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> gregf: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 support please
[12:01] <bekks> matthias___: So look at dmesg again.
[12:03] <voldyman> so today i rebooted my laptop into windows 10, the dell touchpad utility allowed me to configure multitouch gestures like the mac, if i were to implement this for linux or ubuntu specifically how would i go about that?
[12:03] <voldyman> can this be done in userspace?
[12:07] <bernardo> hello!
[12:07] <bernardo> is chit-chatting encouraged on this server?
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | bernardo
[12:09] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i agree with your opinion, however its not always possible and depends on level of sensitivity, is there a way to secure ubuntu boot?
[12:10] <bernardo> sure there is
[12:10] <bernardo> do you want to know it ?
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | bernardo
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> sruli: password your bios, password grub perhaps
[12:11] <bernardo> sruli: have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot?
[12:12] <sruli> lotuspsychje: password bios does not help with win as dual boot as u can go into recovery and select to boot from usb
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> sruli: passworded bios helps also, for other kinds of exploits/trojans
[12:12] <sruli> bernardo: yes i have read it, its preatty complicated to understand and it clearly states for testing only
[12:13] <bernardo> ok, sry
[12:13] <sruli> i have spent more about 20 hours searching google for help on this before i came here
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> sruli: http://www.howtogeek.com/102009/how-to-password-protect-ubuntus-boot-loader/
[12:19] <rhagu> Hi how can I find the path to ethtool? It is not at /usr/sbin/ethtool
[12:20] <ikonia> which ethtoo
[12:20] <ikonia> l
[12:20] <cfhowlett> locate ethool
[12:22] <sruli> lotuspsychje: that not for grub 2, also on regular boot i need it to boot directly into windows, i know what i need is not easy an requires advanced experience thats why i offered to pay for the help in the first place, i found a solutuion which checks if the boot partition has been changed but i need help understanding the script and changing it to suit my needs tinyurl.com/zqe8v2q
[12:23] <rhagu> locate worked! Thank you
[12:24] <cfhowlett> happy2help! rhagu
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> sruli: i really dont understand why you are so focused on that evil maid...there are tons of other ways to get your sensitive data..
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> sruli: if you paranoia about it, dont store it local..
[12:36] <MagePsycho> can you share you workflow in ubuntu guys?
[12:36] <MagePsycho> like powerline + tmux + tmuxinator etc
[12:36] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i am trying to protect as much as possible, evil maid is one thing i cant easily find a way to protect agains
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> sruli: i think you should rather focus on other methods
[12:38] <sruli> other methods to do what?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> sruli: to protect your data, thats your endgoal right?
[12:39] <sruli> yes, i am using many methods, want to add more
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> sruli: lets say you succeed, and protect the boot then someone gets in your system with a 0day exploit and keylogs your encryption key?
[12:40] <lmtd> i though ubuntu was sold on usb sticks in the store, has it never been and i'm imagining things, was it removed, or do i need to open my eyes?
[12:40] <sruli> lotuspsychje: as i siad before i know its impossible to be 100% secure, but its not unreasonable to try to protect against known possible exploits
[12:40] <cfhowlett> it happens, lmtd
[12:41] <cfhowlett> so long as the seller complies with ubuntu licensing, perfectly legal
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> sruli: sure you can try, but that doesnt mean your data is safe...
[12:41] <lmtd> cfhowlett: so every once in a while they put ubuntu on a usb stick in the store and it's just not being offered right now then?
[12:42] <sruli> lotuspsychje: no, it only means "safer"
[12:42] <cfhowlett> yep.  search on amazon, it used to sell in a box for about $20
[12:43] <lmtd> cfhowlett: i wanted an official usb stick! :/
[12:44] <cfhowlett> http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Linux-14-04-Bootable-Flash/dp/B01AZXX2CO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1460897064&sr=8-5&keywords=ubuntu
[12:45] <sruli> i wouldnt buy from any seller, u dont know what they put on
[12:47] <lmtd> thanks for the link, but if i can't buy it directly from ubuntu.com in the store, i'd rather just download it. i don't really need it, i just want it.
[12:50] <alfatau> hello all. I just installed a clean ubuntu-gnome 15.10 on a VM. I'm trying to emulate the installation process I'll do on my laptop if successful on VM. The problem is to boot from a thin lvm volume. The volume group and thin volume are not activated during boot so it finishes with busybox prompt and it seems impossible to activate the group. Can y
[12:50] <alfatau> ou help me?
[12:52] <ikonia> what do you mean emulation the installation process
[12:52] <ikonia> the installer will install it for you - what are you emulation, why and how ?
[12:54] <alfatau> ikonia: it means that i want to test the installation process before really "format" my laptop and install a fresh ubuntu system. I want to test it because as I explained in my question, I'm trying to install the entire system on a single lvm *thin* volume.
[12:54] <ikonia> alfatau: so you're not emulatiing anything
[12:54] <ikonia> you're just using the normal standard installer on a vm
[12:55] <ikonia> correct ?
[12:56] <alfatau> ikonia: ok, as you prefer: it's only a terminology matter: let's say "test" instead of "emulate".
[12:56] <thinky> hi there
[12:56] <ikonia> alfatau: so you are using the standard ubuntu 15.10 gnome installation CD onto a VM - yes ?
[12:57] <alfatau> ikonia: yes.
[12:57] <thinky> i feel shy asking same question but having problem with GRUB again
[12:57] <ikonia> thinky: just ask
[12:57] <ikonia> alfatau: and you're trying to install ubuntu onto a single logical volume ?
[12:57] <thinky> i had to format my laptop again, and dual boot doesnt work.. it boots to windows automatically. and it doesnt ask what to boot
[12:57] <thinky> it seems GRUB doesnt exist
[12:58] <ikonia> thinky: how many hard disks do you have on your laptop ?
[12:58] <thinky> 1
[12:58] <thinky> and 1 external
[12:58] <ikonia> thinky: are you trying to install to the external hard disk ?
[12:58] <ikonia> or is the external hard disk the installer media ?
[12:58] <thinky> no i already installed in my harddisk
[12:58] <thinky> not external
[12:58] <alfatau> ikonia: yes, but not a logical *thick* volume: what I want to test is if it's possible to install the system on a logical lvm *thin* volume
[12:59] <thinky> the thing is that, it doesnt ask me to boot ubuntu or windows
[12:59] <thinky> grub doesnt work
[12:59] <ikonia> alfatau: the installer shouldn't see any difference
[12:59] <ikonia> thinky: you've said that
[12:59] <ikonia> thinky: what is the external hard disk for ?
[12:59] <thinky> just for storage
[12:59] <thinky> never mind it
[12:59] <ikonia> thinky: did you install with that plugged in
[12:59] <thinky> consider i have 1 hdd
[12:59] <ikonia> thinky: no - it matters
[12:59] <thinky> i didnt install anyhing to external hdd
[12:59] <ikonia> thinky: no, I need to know how many hard disks you DO have plugged in, not "pretend I have one"
[13:00] <thinky> 1
[13:00] <ikonia> thinky: I didn't ask if you installed to it - did you have it plugged in while you installed
[13:00] <thinky> forget external
[13:00] <ikonia> 1 what ?
[13:00] <ikonia> no
[13:00] <ikonia> the external matters
[13:00] <thinky> i have 1 ssd inside
[13:00] <ikonia> thinky: you refuse to answer quesetions and change the story to hide your true config - so you can't be helped
[13:00] <thinky> installed windows 10 and ubuntu 14.04 now
[13:00] <ikonia> thinky: until you are willing to give EXACT and real information, pease don't ask again
[13:00] <thinky> ikonia: my external hdd is not plugged now :S
[13:01] <alfatau> ikonia: to install on a logical thick volume its trivial, it's my actual setup. Using the live cd, I manually created the thin volume setup and installed the system. As you pointed, the installer did not complain about the difference. However, after having completed the installation process, the system did not boot.
[13:01] <ikonia> thinky: I didn't ask "now"
[13:01] <thinky> ikonia: what do u wanna now?
[13:01] <thinky> be clear please
[13:01] <ikonia> thinky: I asked 3 times, did you install with the external hard disk plugged in
[13:01] <thinky> i installed with usb flash key
[13:01] <ikonia> alfatau: how are you creating a thin volume
[13:01] <ikonia> thinky: again not what I asked
[13:01] <thinky> i didnt use external hdd at al
[13:02] <ikonia> thinky: please stop asking if you refuse to answer questions
[13:02] <ikonia> thinky: the bottom line is grub is not installed on your hard disk mbr
[13:02] <ikonia> we can't debug it while you refuse to provide info
[13:02] <thinky> ikonia: I DIDNT install ubuntu with external hdd plugged
[13:02] <ikonia> thinky: too late
[13:02] <thinky> is there anybody else can help me please?
[13:03] <thinky> i dont have time with this q/a games
[13:03] <ikonia> thinky: the channel does not have time to help you with incorrect information or waste time asking you multiple times for info to actually help you
[13:03] <thinky> ikonia: dont u understand ??
[13:03] <ikonia> thinky: very clearly
[13:03] <thinky> i said forget external becuase it has nothing to do with my format
[13:03] <Poke95> thinky, ikonia, be cool please
[13:04] <thinky> i didnt plug it while i was installing my OS
[13:04] <cfhowlett> thinky, first rule of ubuntu: calm down
[13:04] <ikonia> thinky: but it DOES
[13:04] <ikonia> thinky: hence why I asked
[13:04] <thinky> cfhowlett: i was calm
[13:04] <thinky> i didnt install ubuntu with external hdd plugged and still it is not plugged
[13:04] <thinky> is it clear now?
[13:05] <alfatau> ikonia: 1) lvcreate -l 100%FREE -T system/pool -V16G -n root 2) lvcreate -V4G -T system/pool -n swap
[13:05] <ikonia> alfatau: so you're pre-creating the volumes ?
[13:05] <ikonia> rather than allowing the installer to do it
[13:05] <thinky> can anybody help me about GRUB problem please?
[13:06] <alfatau> ikonia: yes, because the installer does not allow to create thin volumes, but only thick ones
[13:06] <ikonia> alfatau: so how are you creating the lv's as there is no OS
[13:06] <ikonia> (at what point/where are they getting created)
[13:06] <thinky> why you geeks are so arrogant?
[13:07] <thinky> hey
[13:07] <cfhowlett> and that attitude is why you get /ignored
[13:07] <thinky> stop it
[13:07] <Poke95> sigh
[13:07] <\9> thinky: you hid information. so nobody is going to help you
[13:07] <alfatau> ikonia: i created the lv's before starting installation, so there's no OS installed. The disk is empty.
[13:07] <FManTropyx> hey, drama belongs on #dogecoin
[13:07] <thinky> is there any admin around?
[13:07] <ikonia> alfatau: where are you creating it from ? the livemedia ?
[13:07] <ikonia> thinky: yes
[13:07] <thinky> i didnt HIDE ANYTHING !
[13:07] <FManTropyx> yeah, you just got kicked by one
[13:07] <thinky> STOP IT
[13:07] <Poke95> !ops
[13:07] <ikonia> please stop talking in caps
[13:07] <thinky> I SAID I DIDNT PLUG EXTERNAL HDD
[13:07] <ikonia> Poke95: it's fine
[13:08] <thinky> i need admin
[13:08] <FManTropyx> so many ops
[13:08] <thinky> or oper
[13:08] <ikonia> I am
[13:08] <ikonia> I am an admin
[13:08] <thinky> except you
[13:08] <ikonia> thinky: what do you want ?
[13:08] <alfatau> ikonia: from the ubuntu-gnome-15.10 live cd: it allows me to "try ubuntu" and then launch the installer after I finish to try it.
[13:08] <Poke95> I think +q is appropriate yet for this
[13:08] <Poke95> not +b or kick
[13:08] <mattfly> hi
[13:08] <thinky> ikonia: remove @ to be equal
[13:09] <\9> heh
[13:09] <mattfly> someone ever used  linphonec?
[13:09] <ikonia> alfatau: ok - is the config for the volume groups not getting created outside the chroot of the os
[13:09] <ikonia> thinky: I've not got @
[13:09] <ikonia> thinky: drop the attitude, ask your question, wait for a response
[13:09] <thinky> you are using your cyber powers for nothing
[13:09] <mattfly> that voip software which works on console
[13:09] <mattfly> someon?
[13:09] <Poke95> Uh, ikonia, you should have used +q, not +b
[13:09] <ikonia> Poke95: thanks for your opinion,
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> mattfly: ask your specific question to the channel please
[13:10] <mattfly> okay
[13:10] <Poke95> ikonia: especially that you're INVOLVED
[13:10] <ikonia> Poke95: thank you
[13:11] <alfatau> ikonia: I've not understood your last point: I've only one volume group and 2 logical volumes. to get inside the chroot of the os I need first to create the volumes, then format the volume (e.g. btrfs) and finally chroot into.
[13:11] <ikonia> alfatau: sorry - I'll try to explain that again
[13:12] <ikonia> alfatau: you're creating the thin LV's outside of the actual system (from the livecd) that means the vg config will be written to the "livecd" rather than inside the installed sysstem,
[13:12] <ikonia> alfatau: so when you reboot, the installed system won't know about the lv's despite the installer being able to write to the filesystems
[13:14] <alfatau> ikonia: ok. but how to create the vg config from inside the installed system, if to install the system i need the vg with lv's?
[13:14] <ikonia> alfatau: you'll somehow have to get the vgconfig into the chrooted target during the install/post install but before the reboot
[13:14] <mattfly> how to configure linphonec? I'm using ubuntu server 14.04, have linphonec installed and a registered sip (i guess i have), i'm getting a alsa lib unknown parameters: 0 message and invalid ctl default: 0. Then it says ready. I couldn't call anyone with the call command yet, i'm not sure if those messages implies in an non functional or missconfigured audio properties and the documentation don't says too much about how to set it up. I have a configuration fi
[13:15] <alfatau> ikonia: uhm... so the installer does not do it by itself?
[13:15] <ikonia> alfatau: the installer doesn't know about it - you created them first
[13:16] <mattfly> so... any ideas?
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> mattfly: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might know the cli method?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> mattfly: manpage showing anything usefull?
[13:17] <mattfly> nope, and it is on thezch
[13:17] <ikonia> thezch ?
[13:17] <ikonia> what's that
[13:17] <mattfly> but it might be the same for all ubuntus man
[13:17] <mattfly> and debians and mint
[13:17] <ikonia> ???
[13:18] <mattfly> Czech
[13:18] <ikonia> ?
[13:18] <alfatau> ikonia: ok, so that's what I'll do: i'll reboot using livecd, i'll activate my vg and volumes, i'll get my vg configuration using vgcfgbackup, I'll chroot into the installed system and finally I'll import the configuration using vgcfgrestore. what do you think?
[13:18] <mattfly> the man page is in Czech
[13:19] <ikonia> mattfly: can you not read czech ?
[13:19] <ikonia> alfatau: sounds like it's a valid test, it will at least give you more info
[13:19] <mattfly> i translated it, but there are no really usefull information about configuration
[13:19] <_0xbadc0de> ok guys, I have a binary that tries to dynamically link agains libSwiftCore.so, I have the .so but the binary refuses to link against it eventhough it is right there!
[13:19] <_0xbadc0de> (in windows dynamic linking would happen w/ system32 or in the binary folder)
[13:20] <ikonia> _0xbadc0de: ask the binary vendor
[13:20] <mattfly> there's a linphone room, however nobody seens to be alive out there
[13:20] <_0xbadc0de> >_>
[13:20] <_0xbadc0de> wtf
[13:20] <_0xbadc0de> I just want to know where it tries to import it? what folder should I put it in
[13:21] <ikonia> _0xbadc0de: we don't know - it's a binary, ask the binary vendor
[13:21] <ikonia> it should read the linker library path if it's dynamic
[13:23] <_0xbadc0de> ok another question
[13:23] <_0xbadc0de> I have a dir /usr/
[13:23] <_0xbadc0de> I want to merg it with the current /usr/
[13:23] <_0xbadc0de> what can I do?
[13:23] <_0xbadc0de> like add the files in the dir tree
[13:24] <ikonia> what?
[13:24] <_0xbadc0de> ok lets break this down with an example
[13:25] <_0xbadc0de> suppose I have one dir /usr/
[13:25] <_0xbadc0de> /usr/ has another dir called /back/
[13:25] <_0xbadc0de> and usr contains two files c.so and d.so
[13:25] <_0xbadc0de> the other /usr/ dir also has c.so but not d.so
[13:25] <auronandace> _0xbadc0de: that would be /usr/back/
[13:25] <_0xbadc0de> and this dir doesn't have /back/ on it
[13:26] <_0xbadc0de> so I want to execute any cmd that not only creates /back/ on this /usr/ but it also adds files from /back/ dir of the other /usr/ dir
[13:26] <ikonia> _0xbadc0de: just copy files into place
[13:26] <ubuntu-mate> not possible
[13:26] <ikonia> it sounds like you're doing something that is a very bad idea
[13:27] <Crysp> Using notify-send, is there a way to associate a notification with some action (e.g. execution of a script) when clicking on it? Or is it possible to include a button within the notification? To better understand what I mean, please have a look the below image depicting a notification sent by Rhythmbox that contains some buttons. http://oi40.tinypic.com/2euo7b6.jpg
[13:27] <_0xbadc0de> using copy=
[13:27] <_0xbadc0de> ?
[13:27] <ikonia> copy= ?
[13:27] <ogra_> you can use rsync for only copying files that dont exist at the target dir ... but ikonia is right, this is a very very bad idea
[13:28] <_0xbadc0de> I know if it is a bad idea or not
[13:28] <_0xbadc0de> trust me
[13:28] <_0xbadc0de> its not
[13:28] <ikonia> ok - then do it
[13:28] <ikonia> but please don't ask for support with it
[13:29] <nikow_> is there any package maintainter?
[13:29] <ikonia> nikow_: for what ?
[13:29] <_0xbadc0de> so? just use cp -r origin dest?
[13:30] <ikonia> _0xbadc0de: we are not going to help you wreck your system
[13:30] <ikonia> _0xbadc0de: man cp
[13:30] <ikonia> _0xbadc0de: please don't ask for support with this
[13:30] <nikow_> There is outdated zpaq package. I need to know if i need something more than stuff writen on http://packaging.ubuntu.com/ to start my adventure as package maintainter :D
[13:30] <FManTropyx> I always use -a with cp to keep timestamps
[13:30] <k1l> nikow_: if you have an issue with a package best is to file a bug on launchpad.net against that package describing the issue
[13:30] <FManTropyx> but rsync is a very nice powerful tool
[13:31] <nikow_> k1l, It's just very old version there. I want to upgrade it, but before i need materials to learn how to do it.
[13:31] <FManTropyx> I've got it running as daemon on a VPS as an alternative for FTP and HTTP downloads
[13:32] <k1l> nikow_: #ubuntu-packaging and file a bug and see if the old maintainer could help you
[13:32] <nikow_> k1l, Thank you very much.
[13:33] <_0xbadc0de> ikonia, I need to run a swift binary
[13:33] <_0xbadc0de> thats the thing
[13:43] <alfatau> ikonia: does not worked, exactly the same as before: it booted into busybox and calling vgchange -ay returns the same error: "/sbin/modprobe failed 1, cannot read thin-pool target version. Can't process LV pool: thin-pool target support missing from kernel?"
[13:45] <baba> hi
[13:45] <baba> hi everyone
[13:45] <RalphBa> hi
[13:45] <sedris> hello
[13:55] <_chroma> hello
[13:55] <_chroma> anyone online?
[13:55] <Len> no, just 1765 idling persons :)
[13:55] <_chroma> yeah thats what it seems like xD
[13:55] <_chroma> where is the help channel?
[13:55] <k1l> _chroma: just ask a detailed question if its technical ubuntu support :)
[13:56] <Len> > Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[13:56] <_chroma> Yes but I'm not a company
[13:56] <RalphBa> just ask your question :D
[13:56] <k1l> _chroma: this is not paid support. just ask
[13:56] <adoeeenis> :D
[13:57] <_chroma> ok.  How here's my issue: When i boot from the hard disk my installation drops to the shell because of a failure to mount my home directory
[13:57] <_chroma> however it's fixed by running mount -a and systemctl default
[13:57] <_chroma> The problem is that I have to do it every time
[13:58] <_chroma> is there some way to mount all my drives automatically so Ubuntu can start without my intervention?
[13:58] <_chroma> all my partitions i mean
[13:58] <k1l> _chroma: what setup is that?
[13:58] <Akuli> Maybe editing fstab is what you want?
[13:58] <Akuli> I don't know of a good english tutorial though
[13:58] <k1l> is this one harddisk? or is it some external disk? is it encrypted?
[14:00] <_chroma> klaas_, its Ubuntu Desktop 15.10 external disk. it was working fine for almost half a year until one day my mongodb just hung while starting up while complaining about a bad sector. I force shutdown because the computer became non-responsive  and couldnt boot up again without getting the root shell
[14:00] <_chroma> klaas, later i discovered from the systemctl logs that there issues mounting the /home partition
[14:00] <RalphBa> _chroma, could you pastebin your fstab and the output of sudo blkid?
[14:00] <k1l> _chroma: so its an external disk? its possible, that the disk is not ready when the system boots up.
[14:01] <RalphBa> for sure only if there are no passwords in fstab
[14:01] <k1l> _chroma: please run a "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the link
[14:01] <BBerry24> how  can  join  ubuntu  for  phone  channel
[14:01] <_chroma> the thing is this fstab worked fine for almost 6 months
[14:01] <_chroma> and when i do mount -a it still works fine
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !touch | _chroma
[14:01] <k1l> BBerry24: /join #ubuntu-touch
[14:01] <ogra_> BBerry24,  /join #ubuntu-touch
[14:01] <_chroma> it just fails to mount at boot
[14:01] <_chroma> this single partition
[14:01] <_chroma> all other partitions mount fine
[14:02] <k1l> k1l> _chroma: please run a "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the link
[14:02] <BBerry24> ths  ogra
[14:02] <_chroma> http://termbin.com/9vbn
[14:04] <k1l> _chroma: and now please run a "cat /etc/fstab |nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:06] <_chroma> did uget it
[14:07] <_chroma> k1l, I sent as a pm. should i paste here instead?
[14:07] <k1l> _chroma: yes
[14:07] <_chroma> http://termbin.com/00z9
[14:08] <hicoleri> My laptop heats up a lot more on ubuntu than on windows. How do I prevent that?
[14:09] <RalphBa> chrome, at the entry /home, you've got an UUID, check if its the same like in the output of "sudo blkid"
[14:09] <k1l> _chroma: that external disk sdb seems to be damaged
[14:10] <_chroma> k1l yes mongo complained about a bad sector and the systemctl logs recommend an e2fsch
[14:10] <_chroma> e2fsck*
[14:10] <_chroma> perhaps i should run that
[14:11] <k1l> yes. to that from another system, like livesystem
[14:11] <_chroma> my live dvd has issues booting. perhaps due to the fact that I have a mostly dead internal harddisk which it could be trying to mount at startup
[14:12] <_chroma> and i havent found the option to boot from disk on key
[14:14] <k1l> so you have onbe damaged internal disk and one damaged external disk?
[14:17] <zz> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[14:18] <ikonia> zz: no art please
[14:19] <_chroma> k1l sounds pretty dire, but yes thats pretty much the case
[14:19] <_chroma> k1l according to SMART though my external is fine
[14:19] <_chroma> my internal is pretty much dead
[14:20] <k1l> _chroma: look at the dmesg output. the external is no fine
[14:20] <_chroma> k1l yes according to SMART. which basically just means there arent enough dead sectors yet
[14:20] <_chroma> but it is in trouble
[14:21] <_chroma> I just wish there were some option that I could implement without booting into a live system
[14:21] <_chroma> if there are no options i can try an external optical drive to see if it makes a difference
[14:21] <_chroma> or try puppy linux or lightweight distro
[14:21] <_chroma> like dsl
[14:22] <k1l> _chroma: you cant run fsck on a parititon that is in use.
[14:22] <dreikoyote> Hi
[14:22] <_chroma> thats fine I can unmount my home directory and run it when i drop to root at system start
[14:22] <_chroma> or rather my home isnt mounted anyway
[14:22] <_chroma> when the system starts
[14:23] <_chroma> i have to run mount -a
[14:23] <_chroma> to mount it
[14:23] <_chroma> or mount /home
[14:24] <Akuli> _chroma: What's the output of "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[14:26] <_chroma>  http://termbin.com/00z9
[14:26] <_chroma> @ Akuli
[14:26] <Akuli> _chroma: Your home partition is listed there just fine
[14:27] <Akuli> _chroma: So i don't know what could be wrong
[14:27] <_chroma> Akuli, theres definitely a disk error
[14:28] <calebmillerkb3> For .ssh/authorized_keys, are the commands inside the command="" block executed when the authorized user makes an ssh connection, or is it just a list of commands that the user can execute from ssh user@host 'command'?
[14:28] <_chroma> Akuli, just wondering if i can run e2fsck from the command line before my system boots
[14:28] <Akuli> Do you mean that your hard drive is failing?
[14:28] <Akuli> _chroma: You can boot very minimally if you want
[14:28] <Akuli> Nothing but kernel and bash.
[14:28] <_chroma> Akuli, it does that on its own
[14:28] <_chroma> it doesnt boot past that
[14:28] <_chroma> then i have to mount /home manually
[14:28] <_chroma> and run systemctl default
[14:28] <Akuli> Sounds like your hard drive is failing :(
[14:29] <_chroma> yeah
[14:29] <_chroma> so the question is
[14:29] <_chroma> can i run e2fsck from the root shell
[14:29] <sopparus> hello
[14:29] <k1l> _chroma: try a "sudo touch /forcefsck " and reboot
[14:29] <_chroma> is e2fsck the same as fsck?
[14:29] <calebmillerkb3> For .ssh/authorized_keys, are the commands inside the command="" block executed when the authorized user makes an ssh connection, or is it just a list of commands that the user can execute from ssh user@host 'command'?
[14:29] <sopparus> i just upgraded to 16.04 and all my drives except boot disk has only sda sdb etc, I see no sda5 for example
[14:30] <_chroma> k1l, creating a blank file named forcefsck causes it to force system check?
[14:30] <sopparus> if i try to mount using fstab I get mount: can't find UUID=76eef63d-5aa6-4bbb-b20e-f7dc5d94f204
[14:31] <k1l> _chroma: that will fsck all partitions. which is a good idea in your case
[14:31] <_chroma> k1l, thats a very cool feature that i never knew about
[14:31] <_chroma> k1l, thanks for the info
[14:31] <calebmillerkb3> nevermind, managed to find the answer on my own
[14:32] <_chroma> k1l, are e2fsck and fsck the same?
[14:33] <k1l> _chroma: yes
[14:34] <k1l> _chroma: in reality fsck is just the wrapper for all the detailed fsck.* family for every Filesystem used
[15:02] <tasso> hi
[15:07] <Kallis> hi there, looking at moving my windows server over to a linux server and am just going about setting up samba with acl, was just wondering if there was an easy way for me to copy all current user acl's that are in place on the windows server over to the new samba linux box please or do i need to redo all acl for all users on all directories
[15:08] <Guest31111> does anyone know how to I solve (a^b) mod c using openssl command ?
[15:11] <Artick> salut ya des francais ?
[15:19] <ante_> hi
[15:25] <primula> hi
[15:29] <Zippy001> hello
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> hi
[15:32] <bizancio> Hi. I upgraded (X)ubuntu from 14.10 to 15.04. Because my connection was slow, I removed some 3rd party repositories (node, docker, etc. ) when upgrading. It's ok to enable them now and run apt-get update && apt-upgrade? Or that's a bad idea for some reason?
[15:32] <bizancio> *I unthecked them _before_ upgrading the SO
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> bizancio  14.10 and 15.04 are both dead
[15:33] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: yeah I want to migrate now to 15.10
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> bizancio  install 14.14.04 or 15.10 then ask again
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[15:33] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: ok :P
[15:34] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: I just wanted to know if doing that was dangerous for some reason or not (disabling 3rd party repositories before upgrading and then activating them once upgraded)
[15:34] <lmtd> i am considering buying this laptop: Lenovo E31-70 13.3" HD (80KX015TMX) url: https://www.komplett.no/product/866203/pc-nettbrett/baerbar-pc/ultraportable/lenovo-e31-70-133-hd# - tried searching google for the laptop name and ubuntu, but came up pretty much empty. how can i figure out if ubuntu will install without problems on it?
[15:34] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: I mean, if there's a good reason for NOT doing that I'd want to know
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> bizancio  do you mean ppa's ?
[15:36] <lmtd> i did find some articles on it, but not on ubuntu.com when browsing vendors.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> !hardware | lmtd start here
[15:37] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: yeah, for example, I have a ppa for Chrome, other for node, other for docker. i disabled all before upgrading. I'm planning to enable them once I migrate to 15.10 and upgrade the packages (if necessary)
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> bizancio  yes, disable ppa's
[15:40] <sruli> fresh install ubuntu 14.04 i am having trouble with bluetooth headset, within 20 seconds of connecting it disconnects, reconnecting sometimes requires a reboot and if not will still disconnect every 30-60 seconds
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> sruli  install blueman
[15:41] <bizancio> MonkeyDust: ok, thanks!
[15:42] <sruli> MonkeyDust: is that a backend or front end tool
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> sruli  it means bluetooth manager, a nice gui, helped others
[15:43] <sruli> do i need to remove bluez?
[15:43] <lmtd> MonkeyDust: thanks! i checked the link, but i can't find the laptop in the database. both ubuntufriendly and hardware support wiki seems to have been discontinued.
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> sruli  no
[15:46] <lmtd> hardware support wiki was phased out for ubuntufriendly, and then ubuntufriendly was discontinued. :/ is there another option to check if a new laptop is compatible with ubuntu?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> lmtd  any reason why you think it isnt?
[15:48] <lmtd> MonkeyDust: cause i installed ubuntu on a lenovo laptop a few years, and i had problems with sound, touchpad, wifi, and it was a real hassle. i just want to make sure that close to everything works out if i buy it and install ubuntu.
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> lmtd  yes, ubuntu has improved over the years
[15:49] <DeM0nFiRe> Hello, my touchpad stopped working on my laptop (but it still works in windows and the bios so the hardware seems fine). Stuff I've seen online says to check if its enabled in conf /org/gnome/settings-daemon/peripherals/touchpad but I dont have any touchpad entries at all there. Did those move or something?
[15:50] <DeM0nFiRe> in peripherals I have only keyboard and mouse
[15:50] <sruli> MonkeyDust: i get "device added successfully, but failed to connect"
[15:51] <lmtd> MonkeyDust: so i just have to give it a shot and hope? :/ i would buy a pre-installed ubuntu laptop if i could find a low budget one with a norwegian keyboard, but since there seems to be none, i guess i got to just attempt this.
[15:56] <fox_> whatsup yo
[15:56] <Deathfacejackal> anyone awake yet
[15:56] <Deathfacejackal> http://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/best-terminal-applications-for-linux-unix-macosx/
[15:57] <Deathfacejackal> there were like 2 i didnt know about lol
[15:57] <Deathfacejackal> test
[15:58] <bazhang> Deathfacejackal, good to take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <pulse00> hi all. i have an ubuntu 14.04 server installed on a virtual server provided by hosteurope. the virtual server has 16GB of memory (guaranteed). whenever the overall memory usage of the system reaches 4GB, applications trying to allocate more than 4gb will run out of memory.
[16:00] <pulse00> it's an x64 system
[16:01] <DeM0nFiRe> Eh I think I will just try reinstalling. I switched wlan cards and the only problem after that was I was getting a "program problem detected" box. removed /var/crash/* and sometime after that is when I had the problem
[16:01] <pulse00> in one case it's a java app (also 64bit java version installed), and in another case it's a ruby app - as far as i can tell also 64 bit ruby)
[16:02] <pulse00> has anyone an idea why no application can allocate more than 4GB of ram although everything is 64 bit?
[16:04] <est31> pulse00, it *may* be a limitation of the java/ruby runtimes, i am not sure. At least I know of luajit that has precisely this problem as well: it can't allocate more than a certain limit of RAM
[16:04] <est31> thats done because garbage collection
[16:10] <_chroma> k1l thanks for your help ill try your suggestion and check back later
[16:25] <fenix_peregrino> hey guys has already somebody upgraded to 16.04?
[16:25] <davido_> #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[16:25] <TimSchumi> Is 16.04 out?
[16:26] <Akuli> Problems with reading /topic?
[16:26] <k1l_> TimSchumi: no
[16:26] <Akuli> It's the thing you see when you join here.
[16:26] <fenix_peregrino> Sorry for my ignorance, how can I access the chante ubuntu+1?
[16:26] <Akuli> /join #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <Akuli> Type that here.
[16:26] <fenix_peregrino> Akuli thanks
[16:30] <WoodyPC> hey yall, What can I type in terminal other than "lspci" to be able to see info on my video device?
[16:31] <k1l_> WoodyPC: what info do you need?
[16:34] <cowboydodo> hi guys, trying to setup an ldap authentication having a a posixAccount in "cn=Test Appsiting,ou=benutzer,dc=example,dc=com"
[16:34] <cowboydodo>  and its gid is "appsiting", which in turn is "cn=appsiting,ou=gruppen,dc=example,dc=com" . My apache configurtation is: https://www.refheap.com/117749 but when trying to login with "testappsiting" I get a "invalid credentials, why is that?"
[16:34] <bo> ping
[16:34] <nuno_nunes> hi good afertemoon
[16:35] <WoodyPC> I keep getting an error at startup. I try to print screen, but system is nonresponsive until error goes away.  I set my display at 1920x1080 and upon reboot, some kind of error showing different resolutions comes onto screen and then resets my screen to 1280x720.
[16:35] <bo> quit
[16:36] <ubuntukali497> hello I am having problems with installing the virtualbox I can install everything but the dkms is there update missing packages command in kernal/
[16:36] <nuno_nunes> :)
[16:39] <wwwi> hello
[16:39] <EriC^^> hi
[16:39] <ubuntukali497> anyone know how to get the virtualbox working?
[16:39] <wwwi> if you add a second had, will it be seen as another drive, or space will be added to your main drive?
[16:40] <timursergeevich> привет
[16:40] <wwwi> hdd
[16:40] <scalper> hey
[16:40] <EriC^^> ubuntukali497: working how?
[16:40] <k1l_> ubuntukali497: what ubuntu exactly? what issue exactly?
[16:40] <EriC^^> wwwi: it'll be seen as another drive
[16:40] <k1l_> !ru | timursergeevich
[16:40] <est31> wwwi, it will be a separate drive
[16:40] <est31> wwwi, but if you start with the hdd every time, you can put it to any directory you want
[16:41] <timursergeevich> im not can write to ubuntu-ru
[16:41] <wwwi> but can I configure something and Ubuntu will see both drives as one?
[16:41] <scalper> i wanna install ubuntu but i want to install it on usb stick, if i run the installation from another usb stick to install it on usb stick b, does it also copy any file to my hdd? let's say if i set my hdd not to boot from
[16:41] <wwwi> est31 ok
[16:41] <Akuli> wwwi: You can't mount two drives on the same location. But you can mount different things in different locations under /
[16:41] <scalper> i can choose the bootorder but i can't deactivate this hdd
[16:41] <scalper> so that's why i'm confusing a little bit about it
[16:41] <timursergeevich> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[16:41] <nuno_nunes> timursergeevich is write #ubuntu-ru
[16:41] <nuno_nunes> :p
[16:42] <wwwi> but can I install apps to the new directory?
[16:42] <k1l_> timursergeevich: read the channel topic there.
[16:42] <wwwi> and services?
[16:42] <timursergeevich> im not good engleesh
[16:42] <EriC^^> wwwi: no, unless you use it as /usr
[16:42] <EriC^^> or manually compile them there
[16:42] <EriC^^> (on the second drive)
[16:42] <k1l_> timursergeevich: read the topic for the #ubuntu-ru channel rules and if you need to register first
[16:42] <est31> or use RAID
[16:42] <ntruf> can I install ubuntu and bootloader without damaging my current windows installation?
[16:43] <wwwi> I can make new hdd point to /usr?
[16:43] <est31> yes
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[16:43] <nuno_nunes> :p
[16:43] <timursergeevich> when me register?
[16:43] <est31> wwwi, its done in fstab
[16:43] <wwwi> without deleting the old data at usr?
[16:43] <k1l_> !register | timursergeevich
[16:43] <ubuntukali497> kl1_ its actually kali 2.2 i tryed to get virtualbox 4.2.2 but it said i needed 4.3.28 since the previous dkms i installed was that I downgraded to python2.7 since it said that also but the headers and virtualbox-qt only install when i type apt-get install virtualbox and it erases the virtualbox 4.3.28 which i need am i missing a step?
[16:43] <k1l_> nuno_nunes: stop confusing the user
[16:43] <EriC^^> wwwi: you can copy the current data in /usr to the new hdd (a partition in it), and then have that mount under /usr
[16:43] <nuno_nunes> lol
[16:43] <k1l_> ubuntukali497: please ask the kali support what could be  wrong on their system
[16:44] <wwwi> so, it's more of a hack?
[16:44] <WoodyPC> k1l_: I keep getting an error at startup. I try to print screen, but system is nonresponsive until error goes away.  I set my display at 1920x1080 and upon reboot, some kind of error showing different resolutions comes onto screen and then resets my screen to 1280x720. Does this error mean that my tv can't handle the higher resolution?
[16:44] <imaffplayer> can I install ubuntu and bootloader without damaging my current windows installation?
[16:44] <ubuntukali497> k1l_ is there a chat interface on this such as irc.lc/freenode/kali ??
[16:44] <EriC^^> wwwi: no
[16:45] <EriC^^> it's just having a separate /usr partition
[16:45] <k1l_> !kali | ubuntukali497
[16:45] <EriC^^> wwwi: you could also use your hdd as /home
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> imaffplayer  it's called a !dualboot
[16:45] <EriC^^> to free some space from your current install
[16:46] <wwwi> I mean, I have hdd n1, then I install hdd n2, and somehow I just make second hdd point to usr, in addition to main hdd pointing there?
[16:46] <nuno_nunes> !dualboot
[16:46] <ubuntukali497> thanks 1
[16:47] <wwwi> and if I do that, can I use second hdd as other directories besides usr?
[16:47] <EriC^^> wwwi: no, the main hdd is pointing at "/" , you'll make the second hdd point to /usr
[16:47] <EriC^^> wwwi: whatever goes in /usr will be in the second hdd
[16:48] <EriC^^> wwwi: if you make more than 1 partition then you can mount the other partitions wherever you want and use them
[16:48] <imaffplayer> can I install ubuntu and bootloader without damaging my current windows installation?
[16:48] <EriC^^> imaffplayer: damaging how?
[16:48] <wwwi> so, I will have to move current data of usr to second hdd usr?
[16:48] <imaffplayer> EriC^^, to install ubuntu I need partion the disk, right?
[16:49] <EriC^^> imaffplayer: yes
[16:49] <wwwi> won't that damage Ubuntu and its apps and services?
[16:49] <EriC^^> wwwi: correct
[16:49] <imaffplayer> so, isnt that ruinning the windows installation?
[16:49] <EriC^^> wwwi: you have to do it in a live session from a live usb
[16:49] <wwwi> I see
[16:49] <wwwi> I have another question
[16:50] <EriC^^> imaffplayer: not really, you shrink the windows partition and use the unallocated space to make a partition for ubuntu
[16:50] <wwwi> some times I get message system problem detected, I click cancel and everything seems to work ok
[16:50] <wwwi> sometimes I get that message and programs die
[16:50] <wwwi> is all that normal?
[16:50] <imaffplayer> ok
[16:51] <imaffplayer> EriC^^, so ubuntu will install for me the bootloader too?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> imaffplayer  yes, it's called GRUB
[16:52] <Dro> whats the correct permissions of /var/www ?
[16:53] <squinty> imaffplayer,  the thing to keep in mind is that there is no absolute guarantee that something won't go wrong.... therefore, back your windows system, have recovery disk etc etc
[16:53] <k1l_> Dro: 755
[16:54] <k1l_> Dro: dont change that, put your user into the www-data group. after relogin you can adjust the files
[16:54] <damntourists> ugh
[16:54] <Dro> k1l_, what about the html folder inside /var/www ?
[16:54] <k1l_> Dro: all the same
[16:54] <Dro> k1l_,  drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 avril 15 10:16 html
[16:55] <Dro> should i change owner to my user ?
[16:55] <k1l_> Dro: so you changed that with sudo/root?
[16:55] <damntourists> i have my monitors configured to be on top of each other in my nvidia settings, though, when i wake my comp up from the screen saver, it reverts it to side by side
[16:55] <Dro> k1l_, i didn't change anything
[16:55] <Dro> should i modify it ?
[16:55] <Myrtti> it shouldn't be owned by root
[16:55] <wwwi> thanks
[16:56] <Dro> Myrtti, k1l_ do you recommand to set the owner to my_user:my_user ?
[16:56] <Myrtti> no
[16:56] <k1l_> Dro: you did. root is not the standard owner of that directories. and you should not change that to your user.
[16:57] <Dro> k1l_, what should i do then? :D
[16:57] <Dro> in fact i have a permissions problem, i can't add/edit anything inside /var/www/html without sudo
[16:58] <k1l_> Dro: like i said already: put your user into the www-data group
[16:58] <Dro> k1l_, the current owner of /var/www/html is : root root
[16:59] <Artemis3> so change it :)
[16:59] <Dro> I have to set it to my_user:www-data then ?
[16:59] <k1l_> Dro: then you did ruin that already with playing with sudo or root
[16:59] <Dro> or my_user:my_user ?
[16:59] <damntourists> sudo useradd -G www-data username
[16:59] <k1l_> Dro: noooooooo. never your user
[16:59] <Dro> i'm not sure that www-data already exists
[16:59] <k1l_> Dro: what ubuntu system is that?
[16:59] <damntourists> what does "groups" show
[16:59] <Dro> k1l_, ubuntu 14.04
[17:00] <Dro> damntourists, $ groups
[17:00] <Dro> dro adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[17:00] <Dro> (dro is my user)
[17:00] <Dro> $ ls -la /var/www/
[17:00] <Dro> total 12
[17:00] <Dro> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 janv. 24 20:37 .
[17:00] <Dro> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 janv. 24 20:37 ..
[17:00] <Dro> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 avril 15 10:16 html
[17:01] <k1l_> Dro: on a original ubuntu system. the webservers are run by www-data and the stuff in /var/www is owned by www-data and www-data group
[17:01] <sruli> i have very bad graphics (jumping frames) on my laptop graphics card is intel hd i915 do i need separate drivers?
[17:01] <damntourists> sudo groupadd www-data
[17:01] <Akuli> sruli: What's in your driver section in software and updates?
[17:02] <r1c0> hello
[17:02] <Dro> damntourists, i'm wondering why should i add a www-data since my user group exist ?
[17:02] <Dro> whats the differance ?
[17:02] <k1l_> Dro: i already explained that 3 times now
[17:03] <sruli> Akuli: "no additional drivers available" and "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[17:03] <Dro> k1l_, sorry i didn't get the point
[17:03] <Dro> so i have to create a www-data user too ?
[17:03] <k1l_> Dro: www-data is the user and group on ubuntu which runs the webservers. so if you want your webserver to manage tha files in that folder put yourself into that group so you dont need to ruin that permissions with sudo again
[17:03] <Akuli> sruli: Which ubuntu are you running and what kernel?
[17:03] <Marenz> Greetings
[17:03] <k1l_> Dro: ubuntu already created that user.
[17:03] <Marenz> I am trying to set up an ubuntu server with a software raid1, GPT partition tables
[17:03] <Marenz> problem is, it's probably not an EFI bios and now it can't boot
[17:04] <Dro> k1l_, it don't appear in "users" or in "groups"
[17:04] <sruli> Akuli: its a fresh install 14.04 kernel is 4.2.0-35-generic
[17:04] <tme5> sruli, i use the i915 drivers too
[17:04] <Akuli> Your kernel is quite new, so that shouldn't be  the problem.
[17:05] <tme5> do you have the xorg intel package installed?
[17:05] <tme5> there is talk that it's not great, and the generic X one is better
[17:06] <k1l_> Dro: because its your user and your groups that are shown
[17:06] <sruli> tme5: yes i have "xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-wily"
[17:06] <k1l_> and you refuse to put your user in that group. so it will never show up on your groups.
[17:06] <Dro> k1l_,  i used " ps aux | grep httpd
[17:06] <Dro> " to check which user run the web server i found that its my user
[17:07] <k1l_> Dro: so how did you install the webserver?
[17:07] <tme5> sruli, try uninstalling, then restart X. compare performance
[17:07] <sruli> how do i restart X ?
[17:07] <k1l_> sruli: logout
[17:07] <umiit77> hello
[17:08] <k1l_> sruli: or if x is broken then restart your lightdm
[17:08] <Dro> k1l_, i forget! maybe somehow using command line
[17:08] <Dro> any way it works correctly
[17:08] <k1l_> Dro: what webserver is it?
[17:08] <Dro> except the permission problem when i try to add/edit files
[17:08] <Dro> k1l_, apache2
[17:09] <k1l_> "dpkg -l | grep apache | nc termbin.com 9999" run that and please show the url
[17:10] <lmtd> anyone know where i can buy a small laptop (13") with ubuntu pre-installed (100% compatible), a norwegian keyboard, at a reasonable price?
[17:11] <sruli> tme5: thanks that seems to have solved the issue for now
[17:11] <Dro> k1l_, http://termbin.com/jg6g
[17:12] <tme5> that's good! i was hoping i wasn't making it up haha
[17:12] <sruli> lol
[17:12] <tme5>  the X intel component i think is quite old
[17:12] <k1l_> Dro: so you changed the permissions in that folder and you changed the user to run the webserver?
[17:12] <tme5> you are still using the i915 kernel drivers but now a generic X part
[17:13] <Dro> k1l_, i didn't change anything, the www-data user/group didn't exist from the beign
[17:13] <Dro> begin
[17:13] <k1l_> Dro: on a original ubuntu setup the webservers are run by www-data and the /var/www folders are  owned by that user and group
[17:14] <Dro> k1l_, thats ok, so since the www-data don't exist, and the httpd server is running by my current user all i have to do is to set the permission of /var/www/html to my current user
[17:15] <k1l_> Dro: "cat /etc/passwd | nc termbin.com 9999" please show that url
[17:15] <k1l_> Dro: no.
[17:16] <Dro> k1l_, hmm it seems that www-data exist inside /etc/passwd
[17:16] <k1l_> Dro: "groups" is not listing every group on the server. its just listing the groups you are in
[17:16] <k1l_> Dro: so please dont say there is no www-data
[17:16] <Crysp> Does anyone know any development specific channels for ubuntu?
[17:17] <Dro> k1l_, you're right cat /etc/passwd | grep www-data shows that there is a www-data user
[17:17] <k1l_> Dro: like i said right from the start: put your user into the www-data group and put hat folders to www-data user and group. that is the right setup. if you dont want it that way, then do it your custom setup, but that is out of the scope of here
[17:18] <Dro> k1l_, what about the httpds server , its running by my user
[17:18] <k1l_> Dro: ps aux | grep www-data
[17:19] <sruli> tme5after a reboot i cant see mouse on the desktop, touchpad and mouse invisible, if i click all over the place stuff launch but i cant see the pointer
[17:20] <Dro> k1l_, 1 sec, the /var/www must be owned by www-data:www-data or the /var/www/html ?
[17:20] <k1l_> both
[17:20] <bauerj> anyone knows what I could do to solve this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/758394/mariadb-server-10-0-installation-seems-to-be-broken
[17:21] <sruli> i see tme5 has left the room, i had problems with my graphics, tme5 told me to remove intel drive, it sorted the graphics but after reboot mouse pointer is invisible
[17:28] <nexii> hello. I found instructions on how to convert an rpm to amd64 through ubuntu but was wondering how I can get this rpm to something usable on an arm device without compiling from source
[17:28] <nexii> the instructions I found are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quickbooks%20Enterprise%20Data%20Server
[17:28] <VinceVon> hi all, I'm having some annoying issues with nvidia-xserver settings on ubuntu 15.10, can anyone help?
[17:29] <VinceVon> basically, the os recognises two monitors, but the nvidia settings recognise only one monitor, but it's a virtual one and it has the same resolution as both monitors combined
[17:29] <VinceVon> any time I try to change the res of one of them through control panel, it crashes and logs me out
[17:30] <Dro> k1l_, so I changed owner of /var/www to www-data ( sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[17:30] <Dro> )
[17:30] <Dro> then i added my current user to www-data
[17:30] <Dro> but i still unable to create a folder inside /var/www/html without sudo
[17:31] <k1l_> Dro: did you relogin?
[17:32]  * k1l_ is afk now. eveything is written in backlog several times anyway
[17:32] <Dro> k1l_, no i have to reboot?
[17:38] <Dro> I finally changed the owner of /var/www to my current user... no other solution ! ==> sudo chown -R $USER:www-data /var/www
[17:40] <feneco> hi, is it normal to ubuntu become very unresponsive, to the point that I have to hard reset, when there's few memory available? it happens both, on my desktop and laptop
[17:41] <feneco> and I have 10Gb physical memory, and 500Mb swap
[17:41] <Ben64> no, of course that isn't normal
[17:42] <Ben64> oh i read that wrong. yes if you run out of memory things will be bad
[17:43] <feneco> shouldn't the OS manage the memory used by the programs somehow?
[17:43] <feneco> I mean, if a program become unresponsive is better than the entire OS
[17:44] <Ben64> once everything fills up the os should start killing processes
[17:44] <Ben64> real solution is to get more ram, or add more swap
[17:44] <feneco> how much swap is recommended?
[17:44] <Ben64> depends how much you need
[17:45] <akik> Dro: you don't need to reboot for the user account change, but logout & login again
[17:45] <VinceVon> it used to be double the ram when ram was small
[17:45] <VinceVon> 1GB-2GB
[17:45] <VinceVon> over 8GB I use half the ram
[17:45] <feneco> is there a limit? a value that could harm the system somehow?
[17:45] <VinceVon> got 16GB on my machine, set 8GB as swap
[17:46] <Ben64> no
[17:46] <VinceVon> chrome uses it all when many tabs are open lol
[17:46] <feneco> yes, chrome is the evil here too
[17:46] <VinceVon> but I read about chrome, it seems it reserves the memory, not actually uses it, and is able to release if other software request more memory
[17:47] <VinceVon> of course it's terrible practice, but it's not as bad as it seems
[17:47] <VinceVon> are you able to increase the sawp size in gparted?
[17:47] <feneco> I guess I will try make a bigger swap then
[17:47] <feneco> VinceVon: I don't know
[17:48] <feneco> actually I have to search how I'm going to do it, I hope I can do it without having to mess my partition table
[17:48] <Ben64> you can make a swap file
[17:49] <feneco> Ben64: how would be that? it would work like the swap partition?
[17:51] <Ben64> feneco: yep
[17:51] <vervet> feneco: it's like the windows way of doing it, instead of a dedicated partition it just writes to a file on another existing one
[17:52] <feneco> cool
[17:52] <feneco> so I can keep my swap partition and additional swap files
[17:55] <feneco> thanks, i'll try here
[17:58] <sruli> had a problem with my mouse,  read on a help page to replace gnome-settings-deamon with unity-settings-deamon after removing gnome-settings-deamon it removed network so couldent install gnome-unity-deamon, tried rebooting but that hangs, is there anyway i can fix this with livecd?
[17:59] <Akuli> sruli: What did you do to remove it?
[17:59] <Akuli> sudo apt-get remove gnome-settings-deamon ?
[18:00] <sruli> Akuli: no in synaptic removed it, i guess it removed many packages with it
[18:00] <Akuli> Ok, then we can fix it with a live cd and chroot.
[18:00] <Akuli> Are you booted from a live cd now?
[18:01] <sruli> Akuli: tried from chroot, couldnt resolve ubuntu.com, will get back in to livecd now
[18:01] <Akuli> sruli: You need to copy over /etc/resolv.conf
[18:01] <Akuli> Or mount --bind it
[18:01] <Phiend> Anyone can't update, getting connection failed?
[18:01] <Akuli> Phiend: Which mirror are you using? Change it.
[18:02] <Phiend> ok
[18:02] <Akuli> If you're talking about apt-get update
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> !ddetails | Phiend
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> !details | Phiend
[18:03] <Akuli> sruli: Booted from the live dvd now?
[18:03] <Tank> Hey guys
[18:03] <Akuli> Hi Tank
[18:03] <Tank> I have a problem with the login
[18:04] <Guest63144> I type in my password, it went to the desktop and restarted
[18:04] <Akuli> Guest63144: Fresh install or not?
[18:04] <Guest63144> Been happening like that ever since
[18:04] <sruli> Akuli: "mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf" ?
[18:04] <Guest63144> No. However I have been running it for about 4 months now
[18:04] <Akuli> sruli: Yes, exactly.
[18:04] <Guest63144> No problem at all
[18:04] <Akuli> sruli: Thats the only thing you actually need to bind
[18:05] <sruli> Akuli: do i need to mount boot?
[18:05] <Akuli> mount /dev/sdthingy /mnt; mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf; chroot /mnt
[18:05] <Akuli> That's all you really need.
[18:05] <Akuli> You're not going to actually boot anything from there :)
[18:06] <Akuli> You're going to use the live cd's kernel and all anyway, just bash from your computer.
[18:06] <Guest63144> Akuli: I think it has something to do with my nvidia driver.
[18:07] <Guest63144> I have tried out many tutorials
[18:07] <Guest63144> None of them seem to work
[18:07] <Guest63144> Installed gdm.
[18:07] <Guest63144> Didn't work
[18:07] <Akuli> Problem is that the easiest way to change the driver is after the login :(
[18:07] <Guest63144> Exactly
[18:07] <Akuli> Are you installing from mini.iso or a pre-made distro?
[18:08] <ubuntufriendz> hey guys, i am using ubuntu 12.04 does this work right?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> ubuntufriendz  what brings you here
[18:08] <Guest63144> I have a lot of my important files in there. Is there a way to access it?
[18:08] <Guest63144> Mini.iso?
[18:08] <sruli> Akuli: in chroot "apt-get install unity-settings-deamon"?
[18:09] <ubuntufriendz> monkeydust, I am showing a friend how to use the ubuntu installation
[18:09] <Akuli> Yes
[18:09] <ubuntufriendz> thank you !
[18:09] <Akuli> sruli: and hope that the internet works :D
[18:09] <Akuli> You can also "ping www.google.com" if you want to check
[18:10] <Akuli> sruli: Once i removed my network-manager and fixed that with chroot :D
[18:10] <sruli> Akuli: unknown host google.com guess internet now working
[18:10] <Guest63144> Akuli: is there any way to access the information on my Ubuntu partition since I am stuck in this boot loop
[18:10] <Akuli> Guest63144: Press Ctrl+Alt+F1, you
[18:10] <Akuli> oops
[18:10] <Akuli> you'll get into a non-gui world.
[18:11] <Akuli> There you can move and copy files, move stuff to usb stick, list your partitions, play minesweeper, whatever you want :)
[18:11] <Akuli> No need for a gui.
[18:11] <Guest63144> Akuli: cool. How do I start moving around things with that?
[18:11] <Akuli> Want to move stuff to a usb stick?
[18:11] <Guest63144> Akuli: external hd
[18:11] <Akuli> Ok
[18:11] <sruli> Akuli: no internet, how can i get it connected
[18:11] <Akuli> Run lsblk, plug in the hd and run lsblk again.
[18:12] <Akuli> The output should have changed.
[18:12] <Akuli> sruli: What's in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[18:12] <Akuli> sruli: Or is it a link somewhere?
[18:12] <Guest63144> Akuli: lsblk is it some sort of back up?
[18:12] <Akuli> Guest63144: It just lists your hard drives :)
[18:13] <sruli>  Akuli: empty just the "do not edit this file by hand..."
[18:13] <Guest63144> Akuli: oh sweet
[18:13] <Akuli> Guest63144: We need to first mount your external hard drive to access it.
[18:13] <xfoob> hello all
[18:13] <Akuli> sruli: ok, then we're stuck :(
[18:13] <Akuli> That's what all the tutorials i've seen recommend doing
[18:13] <Akuli> so i dont know :(
[18:14] <Guest63144> Akuli: yup. Sdb.
[18:14] <Guest30800> meh
[18:15] <Akuli> Guest63144: Just sdb or sdb and a number?
[18:15] <Guest63144> Akuli: just sdb
[18:15] <Akuli> Ok
[18:15] <Jamai> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and recently I upgraded my kernel from 4.2.0-16 to 4.2.0-35 and it doesn't boot. It keeps saying "Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while...". I tried unpacking both initrd and comparing them using git-diff. The only difference was in "lib/firmware" and "lib/modules" (diff stats: http://pastebin.com/gbq4d38d). I have no idea what's going on. Also I have everything encrypted (encrypted sda1 [mou
[18:15] <Akuli> Guest63144: Now let's mount it to /mnt: sudo mount /dev/sdv /mnt
[18:15] <Guest63144> Akuli: sdb1
[18:15] <Akuli> oh ok
[18:15] <Jamai> (encrypted sda1 [mounted as /boot] + encrypted sda2 [mounted as /]). I run kernel with commands: "root=UUID=..uuid here.. ro cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:sda2_crypt", I have keyfile, which unlocks both sda1 and sda2, inside initrd and "target=sda2_crypt,source=UUID=..uuide here..,key=/crypto_keyfile.bin,rootdev,keyscript=/lib/cryptsetup/scripts/cat,discard" inside "conf/conf.d/cryptroot".
[18:15] <Akuli> Guest63144: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[18:15] <sruli> anyone know how to get internet connection in chroot on livecd?
[18:16] <Akuli> Guest63144: Probably easiest if you run sudo -i so you don't need to add sudo in front of everything :)
[18:16] <Guest63144> Akuli: done
[18:17] <Akuli> Guest63144: Now, are you in sudo -i?
[18:17] <Guest63144> Akuli: yup
[18:17] <Akuli> Guest63144: Now, we can make a folder for all your stuff: mkdir /mnt/mystuff
[18:17] <Akuli> mkdir just makes an empty directory
[18:18] <Akuli> Then, to move around and see what's in things: ls will list everything in the current directory, cd place will go to place and cd .. will go a level up.
[18:18] <Guest63144> Akuli: I have my important files on my desktop. Also. Mkdir done
[18:19] <Akuli> Guest63144: Then let's copy over the desktop contents
[18:19] <Akuli> cp /home/yourusername/Desktop /mnt/mystuff
[18:19] <Guest63144> Akuli: cool
[18:19] <Akuli> You won't have any indicator of how long it will take
[18:19] <Akuli> But shouldn't be too long :)
[18:20] <thedeveloper> hi
[18:20] <thedeveloper> is there a snipping tool in ubuntu similar to those in windows OS
[18:21] <Akuli> thedeveloper: My MATE desktop has a screenshot tool, not sure about unity.
[18:21] <thedeveloper> a snipping tool that can capture a screen
[18:21] <thedeveloper> Akuli: what is the name of the app that you are using
[18:22] <Akuli> mate-screenshot
[18:22] <sruli> Akuli: got the internet working installed unity-settings-daemon, anything else to install / configure?
[18:22] <Guest63144> Akuli: it shows - cp: omitting directory (incoherent letters, 3 of them)/home/lsd/Desktop(again 3 incoherent letters)
[18:22] <Akuli> It came as a part of my mate desktop though
[18:22] <Akuli> sruli: If you didn't remove anything else I guess that's it.
[18:22] <Akuli> sruli: When you're done just exit and umount /mnt
[18:22] <Crude> hi room
[18:23] <Akuli> thedeveloper: If it's not in your repos add the ubuntu mate repository, that's where i got it from
[18:23] <Guest63144> Akuli: I'm guessing it hasn't coppied
[18:23] <sruli> Akuli: i guess it did remove many other packages with it, no clue which, will try reboot and see where i get
[18:23] <Crude> Hows it going today everyone?
[18:23] <Akuli> sruli: You can check the apt log if you want
[18:23] <geirha> Guest63144: Sounds like the locale is set to use utf-8 encoding, your terminal emulator is using a different encoding, like latin1
[18:24] <Akuli> sruli: It's in /var/log/apt/history.log
[18:24] <geirha> Guest63144: A common issue when using putty. It defaults to using latin1 instead of utf-8
[18:24] <Guest63144> geirha: hmm. What do you suggest I do now?
[18:25] <geirha> I'm just responding to the "incoherent letters, 3 of them" bit. Haven't read the full context
[18:26] <Crude> dog poo.
[18:27] <Guest63144> geirha: I am currently stuck in a login loop. Tried various methods. None worked. I have a few important files on my desktop and akuli has been nice enough to help me try copying it onto my external hd
[18:27] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Turns out that the screenshot tool is a part of mate-utils
[18:27] <geirha> cp requires -r (or -a) in order to copy directories recursively
[18:27] <Akuli> Guest63144: Is there something not working with copying?
[18:27] <sruli> Akuli: not booting i guess i will need to get back into livecd and find the apt history
[18:27] <Akuli> Oh right
[18:27] <Crude> brown dog poo.
[18:27] <Akuli> Guest63144: The correct command would be cp -r /home/yourusername/Desktop /mnt/mystuff
[18:28] <thedeveloper> Akuli: sorry I do not need a screen shoot tool I only need a snipping tool that captures the part of the desktop screen that I want and not the whole screen
[18:28] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Yes, the tool also does that.
[18:28] <thedeveloper> Akuli: oh I see
[18:28] <Guest63144> Akuli & geirha. Cool I'll test it now
[18:28] <Crude> smelly brown dog poo.
[18:28] <Akuli> Guest63144: the -r there just means recursive, so it can do more than one file.
[18:28] <thedeveloper> does it have a specific terminal command to use the mate-utils repo
[18:29] <Akuli> let me look up where it comes from.
[18:29] <Akuli> baaah apt-cache show doesn't mention what repo its form
[18:29] <Akuli> from
[18:30] <Akuli> thedeveloper: I think it's from this ppa, add it to your sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
[18:30] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Or maybe you can browse to it without adding it,
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> Hello, I have a problem with the tool expect under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I want to automate ssh logins to some Sophos UTM Firewalls and evelate my rights directly after with "sudo su -" and the correct password. I don't have to worry about plain text passwords, because my script runs directly out of the KeePass URL field (doubleclick executes the script and fills it with the correct passwords via
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> agrument/KeePass {Placeholder} behind the script).
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> I managed to get all of this done, except for not having a remote-root shell, which is not executing any commands and "dropping the connection" back to my ubuntu system. So the command I'm trying to run remotely is not excecuting for 3-5 seconds and then gets suddenly executed on the ubuntu system. Without telling me what happened.
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> What do I have to do, to have fully functioning remote-shell?
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> Pastebin with the explained stuff happening:
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> http://pastebin.com/SJiHejG4
[18:31] <Nyctophilia> Thanks in advance!
[18:31] <Crude> poo
[18:31] <thedeveloper> Akuli: what do you mean browse without adding
[18:31] <thedeveloper> you mean use the software center
[18:31] <Crude> hello
[18:31] <Akuli> thedeveloper: It's just a place in launcpad
[18:31] <Akuli> Maybe you can go there with a web browser
[18:31] <Akuli> and download just mate-utils and nothing else
[18:32] <thedeveloper> Akuli: sorry but I am not following you
[18:32] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Turns out you also need mate-utils-common. Probably easiest to add the ppa.
[18:33] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Ok, let me give you some more specific instruction :)
[18:33] <Crude> yeah Akuli get it together.
[18:33] <thedeveloper> Akuli: ok thanks
[18:34] <Akuli> Run this: echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa/ubuntu trusty main | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:34] <Akuli> the -a is important, don't leave it out.
[18:35] <Crude> fucking hell
[18:35] <Seveas> Akuli: that's more safely done as sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa
[18:35] <Akuli> Thanks Seveas.
[18:35] <tyuiop> hi there
[18:35] <Akuli> thedeveloper: If you didn't run the command already run this instead: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa
[18:36] <Akuli> Seveas: i have to admit, i had forgotten that command :(
[18:36] <Seveas> Akuli: as a punishment, say three hail maries and run around the dining room table twelve times :)
[18:36] <calher> aww man i hav to reg
[18:37] <Akuli> lol
[18:37] <calher> i never reg because i always make passwords that i cant type when im at a work computer and bored af
[18:37] <calher> or im stuck at a tty and cant copy/paste pass
[18:38] <thedeveloper> Akuli: done what's next
[18:38] <Seveas> Nyctophilia: I'm not sure if that will actually work, as I believe sudo reads direct from the terminal (so not automatable)
[18:38] <calher> well im here cuz im on a trusty system and i cant get virt-manager to work -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/15902232/
[18:38] <Akuli> thedeveloper: sudo apt-get update
[18:39] <Seveas> calher: any added groups only take effect in new sessions, so log out and log back in.
[18:39] <thedeveloper> Akuli: done
[18:39] <calher> Seveas: oki
[18:39] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Does this work? sudo apt-get install mate-utils
[18:40] <Akuli> By the way, that was a really fast update
[18:40] <thedeveloper> Akuli: Package mate-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:40] <thedeveloper> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[18:40] <thedeveloper> is only available from another source
[18:40] <Akuli> oh well...
[18:40] <Akuli> how about sudo apt-get install firefox?
[18:41] <Akuli> just wondering if we broke the sources.list complitely...
[18:41] <thedeveloper> Akuli: I already have a firefox
[18:41] <Akuli> see if that makes an  error anyway
[18:41] <Akuli> or maybe better not to gues
[18:41] <Akuli> s
[18:41] <Seveas> apt-cache policy firefox
[18:41] <Guest63144> Akuli: How do I confirm that it has copied all the files onto my external HD?
[18:41] <Seveas> that'll tell you all repos it finds firefox in
[18:41] <Akuli> thedeveloper: How many lines of output does "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" produce?
[18:41] <Akuli> Guest63144: You can use ls to list content of directories
[18:42] <thedeveloper> Akuli: firefox is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:42] <Akuli> Guest63144: ls /mnt/mystuff/Desktop
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> thedeveloper  then add --reinstall
[18:42] <Guest63144> Akuli: Peace. I'll go check it
[18:42] <Akuli> Ok :)
[18:42] <Akuli> I'm arfaid he overwrite his sources.list with nothing but the mate repo :(
[18:43] <thedeveloper> Akuli: what
[18:43] <Akuli> the apt-get update was so fast
[18:43] <Akuli> Did you remember the -a?
[18:43] <Akuli> Or maybe he's just missing another ubuntu mate repo?
[18:43] <feneco> shouldn't the system be using more swap already? http://termbin.com/mfpa
[18:43] <Akuli> That could be too.
[18:43] <thedeveloper> Akuli: deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[18:43] <thedeveloper> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[18:44] <Guest63144> Akuli: It seems to have done the trick. Thanks a lot bro
[18:44] <Seveas> feneco: no, why should it?
[18:44] <Akuli> Guest63144: Now we just need to unmount it
[18:44] <Seveas> feneco: you have 1.3GB memory free, no reason to use swap
[18:44] <Akuli> Guest63144: umount /mnt
[18:44] <Akuli> Guest63144: Then you're ready to power off your hard drive and all your files are there :)
[18:45] <Guest63144> Oh cool :)
[18:45] <thedeveloper> Akuli: deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[18:45] <thedeveloper> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[18:45] <feneco> Seveas: very few ram available, and swapiness set to 60 by default
[18:45] <Akuli> thedeveloper: nothing else in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:45] <feneco> i thought it would use already
[18:45] <Seveas> thedeveloper: if that's your entire sources.list, it's rather broken
[18:45] <Akuli> oh crap :(
[18:45] <thedeveloper> Seveas: then what else can I do
[18:45] <Seveas> feneco: 1.3GB isn't "very little ram" :)
[18:45] <Akuli> maybe the tee -a idea wasn't that good
[18:46] <Seveas> Akuli: tee -a wasn't used. No mate in sources.list :)
[18:46] <feneco> Seveas: haha, thanks :)
[18:46] <Akuli> Last time i emptied my sources.list i just copied it from my laptop
[18:46] <Akuli> Seveas: You're sure he used your command?
[18:46] <Akuli> Nice
[18:46] <feneco> also I was counting the value without -/+ buffers/cache
[18:46] <Nyctophilia> Seveas: I could make it work like that under windows machines with the ssh client kitty, instead of putty, it has a -cmd switch, so you can execute some commands after connect. So it says -cmd sudo su-\p\n\{PASSWORD} (\p inserts a 1-sec pause). So this is the point that is getting me confused about linux terminals. If I'll add a command to the shellscript like "whoami" with send (from expect),
[18:46] <Nyctophilia> It'll execute this command remotely, after that, the same weird problem occurs. So by that I mean the non-reacting terminal for a few seconds and the drop-back to the ubuntu shell.
[18:46] <Seveas> Akuli: I'm not. The output just shows he didn't use the tee -a :)
[18:47] <Seveas> Nyctophilia: try at least ssh -t instead of ssh to enforce allocating a PTY. See how that goes.
[18:47] <Guest63144> BTW I am unable to change my directory to videos. Ls command shows only desktop.
[18:47] <Nyctophilia> already did that, just look at the pastebin
[18:48] <Akuli> thedeveloper: What's the number "cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | tail -1" starts with?
[18:48] <Akuli> I mean its output
[18:48] <Nyctophilia> if I'll don't do that, the stdin error comes uo
[18:48] <Nyctophilia> up*
[18:48] <Seveas> Nyctophilia: ah, apologies, I missed that
[18:48] <Akuli> Mine is 58
[18:48] <Guest63144> Akuli: How do I change the directory to videos. Ls command shows only desktop.
[18:49] <Akuli> Guest63144: We only copied your desktop.
[18:49] <Akuli> cp -R /home/username/Videos /mnt/mystuff/
[18:49] <Akuli> That'll get videos too.
[18:49] <Akuli> ls /home/username will get you a list of everything in your home folder.
[18:49] <Guest63144> Akuli: damn. Cool :)
[18:50] <Akuli> By the way, it doesn't matter if its -R or -r
[18:50] <Akuli> in case you're wondering
[18:50] <thedeveloper> Akuli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15902505/
[18:51] <Akuli> thedeveloper: No worries, your sources are just fine.
[18:51] <Seveas> thedeveloper: why not pastebin the entire file :) Or even better, the output of this: more /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cat
[18:51] <Akuli> I got all the info i need.
[18:51] <Akuli> I'd pipe it to nc termbin.com 9999 instead if that was the thing :)
[18:52] <Akuli> Or pastebinit, if installed.
[18:52] <Akuli> Anyway, now lets just add another repo and we can install the mate-utils thing :)
[18:52] <thedeveloper> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15902547/
[18:52] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Run on terminal: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/trusty-mate
[18:54] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mate-utils
[18:55] <thedeveloper> Akuli: shall I do upgrade also after
[18:55] <thedeveloper> the installation
[18:56] <Akuli> No need.
[18:56] <Akuli> But you can if you want :)
[18:59] <thedeveloper> Akuli: done
[18:59] <thedeveloper> what is the name of the app that I can use now
[18:59] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Do you now have a mate-screenshot-tool in menu?
[18:59] <Akuli> I think its "take screenshot" or something
[19:00] <thedeveloper> Akuli: how shall I get into that mate-screenshot-tool menu
[19:00] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Running mate-screenshot on a terminal should work too
[19:00] <Akuli> With the menu i meant your unity dash or whatever you have
[19:01] <sruli> Akuli: i remember now, after removing gnome-settings-daemon i tried to install unity-settings-daemon it gave a nerror install-f did not help so i did autoremove,  it removed 100's apt history log see paste.ubuntu.com/15902710/
[19:01] <Akuli> thedeveloper: Did you get mate-screenshot running?
[19:02] <thedeveloper> Akuli: yeah I think I got it
[19:02] <Akuli> Nice :)
[19:02] <thedeveloper> Akuli: but I think this screenshot tool is the default for ubuntu
[19:02] <Akuli> If you choose to select the area can you do a snip?
[19:03] <thedeveloper> Akuli: yes
[19:03] <thedeveloper> you are cool man
[19:03] <thedeveloper> thanks a lot bro
[19:04] <Akuli> thedeveloper: If you just go to your dash and type screenshot you'll probably find the tool from there too
[19:04] <sruli> Akuli: what can i do to reinstall all required packages? is there a command to reinstall unity completly?
[19:05] <Akuli> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:05] <Akuli> but DONT actually use it
[19:05] <sruli> ?
[19:05] <thedeveloper> Akuli: yeah but I thought this tool is already default in ubuntu I just didn't notice that it had options to grab part of the screen
[19:05] <Akuli> because i have no idea what you'd break :D
[19:05] <Akuli> The mate edition comes with it, it is for mate anyway :)
[19:05] <sruli> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[19:06] <Akuli> Doesn't that reinstall just the meta package?
[19:06] <Seveas> sruli: that'd only reinstall the metapackage
[19:06] <brainwash> !metapackage
[19:06] <thedeveloper> Akuli: thanks so much man
[19:06] <sruli> so waht do i need to do to reinstall?
[19:06] <Akuli> My command should ideally be ran from chroot with internet
[19:06] <Akuli> Then it'd be just fine
[19:06] <Seveas> sruli: why do you want to reinstall packages?
[19:07] <sruli> there is 100's will take me hours to copy and paste from log file
[19:07] <Seveas> right, so you just want to make sure they're installed?
[19:07] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get -f --fix-policy install
[19:07] <sruli> Akuli: i'm confused, you wrote "but DONT actually use it" what did u mean by that?
[19:07] <Seveas> the second half of that will install all packages that are "recommended" but not "required"
[19:08] <thedeveloper> Akuli: thanks a lot man
[19:08] <thedeveloper> thanks a lot everyone
[19:08] <sruli> Seveas: that will work from chroot?
[19:08] <thedeveloper> gotta go to bed now
[19:08] <thedeveloper> see you all later
[19:08] <Seveas> sruli: as long as you have network connectivity from the chroot
[19:08] <thedeveloper> bye
[19:08] <sruli> Seveas: ok, will try that
[19:09] <Seveas> sruli: and Akulis command will do something similar to what you did and remove tons of packages. Given that you already seem to know how to do that, it seems unnecessary to do more :D
[19:10] <sruli> Seveas: never come accross --fix-policy before, what does that do?
[19:10] <Seveas> sruli: I explained it above
[19:10] <Seveas> it'll probably install far too much, but you can cull again later
[19:11] <sruli> Seveas: it said it will install 159 new packages, that seems far less then what was removed
[19:11] <Seveas> sruli: then you may have had more installed than just the default packages
[19:13] <sruli> Seveas: possibly, was trying to get bluetooth working so messed with that then video card then got into a mess ;-)
[19:13] <hans_> hi guys
[19:13] <Seveas> sruli: so start with this to get to a working system and take it from there
[19:13] <hans_> i have a problem whit my mouse
[19:13] <hans_> ubuntu wont see him
[19:14] <sruli> Seveas: at the end of ur command was "install" is that correct? it finished now but gave an error "unable to locate package install"
[19:14] <hans_> its a arc touch mouse from microsoft
[19:14] <Seveas> sruli: did you copy the command exactly?
[19:14] <sruli> hans_: does it not work at all or is only the pointer not visible?
[19:14] <sruli> Seveas: yes
[19:15] <Seveas> sruli: hmm. That makes no sense. Humour me and pastebin what's in your terminal (the command and its output)
[19:15] <sruli> Seveas: only missed the "sudo" as in chroot
[19:15] <M1K4> 1
[19:16] <hans_> he wont work at all when he is connect he wont work
[19:17] <Seveas> hans_: which Ubuntu version?
[19:17] <sruli> Seveas: livecd only has 512 lines scroll back.. i also see some errors while scrolling back paste.ubuntu.com/15903044
[19:18] <sruli> hans_: do u see it in lsusb ?
[19:18] <hans_> im now on gnome 15.10 and try live 16.04
[19:18] <Seveas> sruli: it's a bluetooth mouse :)
[19:18] <hans_> yep
[19:18] <Seveas> sruli: hit the up arrow and enter to repeat the command :)
[19:19] <Seveas> !info bluez wily
[19:19] <hans_> is there a solution for a bluetooth mouse
[19:20] <Seveas> hans_: askubuntu has an answer that may work http://askubuntu.com/questions/658005/surface-arc-touch-mouse-not-working-with-ubuntu-15-04
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> hans_  install blueman
[19:21] <sruli> hans_: before installing blueman, unpair the device, reboot install blueman and pair
[19:22] <jokke> hi
[19:22] <sruli> Seveas: again unable to locate, paste.ubuntu.com/15903088
[19:22] <hans_> i have install blueman allready
[19:22] <jokke> i'm trying to get a travis config to work
[19:22] <jokke> and i need a g++ supporting c++11
[19:23] <jokke> so i added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test to the before_install section
[19:23] <hans_> i will take a look at the site
[19:23] <Seveas> sruli: as I thought, you didn't copy properly :)
[19:23] <jokke> the problem: it expects user input (hitting enter)
[19:23] <Seveas> you have 'install' twice in the second command, unlike what I said.
[19:24] <jokke> i don't have a ubuntu system here so i don't know what flags i can pass add-apt-repository to assume "yes" for all user input
[19:24] <Seveas> jokke: -y
[19:24] <jokke> if you could help me that'd be very much appreciated
[19:24] <jokke> Seveas: oh
[19:24] <jokke> thanks!
[19:24] <jokke> so it's the same as in apt-get
[19:25] <geirha> manpages.ubuntu.com -> search for add-apt-repository
[19:25] <sruli> Seveas: i see first install was kinda force of habit ;-) will redo
[19:26] <sruli> Seveas: ok 65 new packages now
[19:27] <sruli> Seveas: going for the reboot, we'll see how it goes
[19:27] <hans_> is there no easy solution im a noob
[19:28] <rindolf> hans_: to what?
[19:28] <Seveas> hans_: looks like there isn't. If 16.04 doesn't work, then either wait for 16.10 or try the solution from askubuntu
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> hans_  or use a normal mouse
[19:29] <hans_> :{
[19:29] <hans_> linux must be fun ;{
[19:30] <hans_> but its hard for noobs
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> everything is hard for beginners
[19:31] <_Diskord> Have some problems with auto completing in vim
[19:31] <darkblue330> Ubuntu is a nice introduction to Linux though.
[19:31] <darkblue330> _Diskord: ##vim might be more of help but we might be able to help here too.
[19:32] <sruli> Seveas: working, thanks
[19:35] <sruli> Seveas: but back to sq 1 with bluetooth connected now
[19:36] <Seveas> sruli: good thing I know nothing about bluetooth :)
[19:36] <sruli> Seveas: for some reason ubuntu and bluetooth dont mix
[19:37] <k1l_> sruli: imho that depends on the used bluetooth chip. mine works well on my thinkpad.
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> sruli  that's FUD
[19:37] <Seveas> I've only ever used it to transfer files from my mobile to my laptop. That seems to work
[19:38] <Seveas> sruli: do you have some excessively modern hardware you're trying to use?
[19:38] <Seveas> or something exotic?
[19:40] <sruli> Seveas: i am trying now on a new HP pavilion laptop, but have tried over last 2 years with many different usb bt chips on my desktop, some with full linux support and never got a2dp working properly
[19:41] <Seveas> hmm, audio
[19:42] <sruli> ok, unpaired, rebooted, paired again, working now, we'll see how long it lasts
[19:42] <Seveas> ever since pulseaudio, linux audio became more complicated. Not sure if that's related at all though :)
[19:46] <scalper> i wanna install ubuntu but i want to install it on usb stick, if i run the installation from another usb stick to install it on usb stick b, does it also copy any file to my hdd? let's say if i set my hdd not to boot from
[19:47] <scalper> can't disable my hdd here, i only can change the boot order
[19:47] <scalper> but i don't want to change any settings on the hdd, so it shouldnt write anything to that hdd
[19:47] <sruli> Seveas: after that reinstall it reinstalled xorg-inter graphic driver for wily, that gives me bad graphics so i removed again, and now my mouse pointer has become indivisible again, at least now i know what caused it and wont remove gnome-settings again ;-) what can i do to get my mouse pointer without using that awful graphics driver?
[19:47] <scalper> so i can set my hdd to be the last one in the bootorder for example
[19:47] <BluesKaj> !persistent
[19:48] <Jordan_U> scalper: First be aware that an installation to a cheap thumb drive is going to be *really slow*.
[19:48] <jmadero_away> hi all - is there any way to enable hardware acceleration with flash now....I get horrendous performance when not in full screen (only in firefox, Chrome is fine)
[19:48] <scalper> Jordan_U: it is not a very cheap drive
[19:49] <scalper> it should be as fast like the hdd is
[19:49] <scalper> usb 3.0
[19:49] <scalper> fast usb stick
[19:49] <Jordan_U> scalper: As far as leaving things around where you don't want them, there is a possible problem if you're installing from a BIOS based machine, and a definite problem if you're installing from a UEFI based machine.
[19:49] <scalper> yes i use UEFI
[19:50] <scalper> Jordan_U: i could technically dissamble the hdd first to make sure there will be no data written to it
[19:50] <Jordan_U> scalper: For UEFI, the problem bits will actually be in your firmware's nvram, not your internal HD :)
[19:50] <scalper> ok
[19:51] <Jordan_U> scalper: For UEFI, the standard installation will create an entry in your boot firmware pointing to Ubuntu's grub installation. And the grub installation will be setup such that this firmware entry is needed to boot Ubuntu.
[19:51] <scalper> Jordan_U: is there any data that gets on the hdd?
[19:51] <scalper> ah ok
[19:51] <Jordan_U> scalper: For a UEFI installation, unless you really do something wrong when selecting options in the installer, no.
[19:51] <scalper> and is this boot firmware located on the internal memory of the bios itself?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> scalper: Correct. It's on a little flash chip connected to your motherboard.
[19:52] <scalper> ah ok, usefull information
[19:53] <scalper> Jordan_U: but it isnt technically possible to exclude that information, because i livecd will also bootup without using that part of the flaschip
[19:54] <nomic> z.z.
[19:54] <Jordan_U> scalper: So, I would recommend that you do a normal installation then boot from your new Ubuntu installation. Then from your new Ubuntu installation we can do three things. 1: Configure Ubuntu so that it will boot on any UEFI machine, not just the one you installed to 2: Remove the UEFI entry and 3: Make sure that future updates don't add the entry back (since it would be unpleasant to be working on your
[19:55] <Jordan_U> friend Bob's computer and have it leave a UEFI boot entry behind when you're done).
[19:55] <scalper> ok
[19:56] <Jordan_U> scalper: Step one is very easy, you just run "sudo grub-install --removable". Note that you'll want to run that manually any time grub-efi-amd64-bin gets updated.
[19:56] <Jordan_U> scalper: For the second step you'll use the tool efibootmgr to remove the "Ubuntu" entry in your boot firmware.
[19:57] <scalper> clear to me
[19:59] <Jordan_U> scalper: For the third step you'll run "sudo apt-get remove grub-efi-amd64" note that this won't actually remove grub's UEFI support, that's in grub-efi-amd64-bin. Due to unfortunate dependencies though, it will remove grub's secure boot support. What it will do is remove the package that automatically runs grub-install on upgrades.
[19:59] <Jordan_U> scalper: Sorry, I have to leave.
[19:59] <Blink`> Hi, does anyone have a guide for securing a new ubuntu 14.04 server?
[20:00] <Blink`> I'm googling all the wrong keywords.
[20:00] <guntbert_> Blink`: if you asking for "server" there is #ubuntu-server too
[20:01] <brainwash> Blink`: try "ubuntu hardening"
[20:01] <guntbert_> Blink`: have a look into ufw, for starters
[20:01] <Blink`> Please elaborate on ufw
[20:01] <brainwash> !ufw
[20:01] <Blink`> ty
[20:01] <Blink`> and ty brainwash
[20:03] <jokke> how do i find out which package provides gtk-doc
[20:04] <TimSchumi> apt-cache search gtk-doc
[20:04] <jmadero_away> gtk-doc-tools
[20:04] <TimSchumi> if it has his own package, you can also write apt-cache show gtk-doc
[20:05] <jmadero_away> as far as how - google is your friend :-b
[20:05] <jokke> thx
[20:07] <Blink`> Before I do hardening, am I supposed to do the whole ssh stuff first?
[20:07] <Blink`> public/private key?
[20:11] <jmadero_away> Blink`: you create the key first, then you share the public key with those machines/people you want to share with
[20:11] <jmadero_away> the key will be located in .ssh
[20:11] <jmadero_away> never share the private key, if you do by mistake, revoke the key immediately and make a new one
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> if you share it, it's no longer private
[20:15] <NoobFan> hi friends, my ubuntu always freezes..what might be the problem?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> NoobFan  that's too general ... what ubuntu version, did it work before, when did it start, what has changed, what have you done/tried so far etc
[20:16] <TimSchumi> CAn you monitor the CPU heat?
[20:17] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: its the new version..it was happening from the initial ... i didn't tried anything
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> NoobFan  what new version? 16.04? if yes: support in #ubuntu+1
[20:18] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: its 15 i think .. the stable one
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> NoobFan  what's the output of  cat /etc/issue
[20:18] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: i'm currently on windows..i'm frustrated with ubuntu
[20:18] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: what might be the problem?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> NoobFan  we need to know *something*, in order to help
[20:19] <NoobFan> MonkeyDust: sorry to bother u with out details brother.. bye :)
[20:20] <Blink`> jmadero_away - Ty, but is there a decent guide for me to follow? Been trying, but I have no idea if the private key works
[20:22] <sruli> i have a problem with my display driver, i get very bad graphics, when i remove the driver graphics is fine but i lose my mouse pointer, what generic driver can i use? intel hd i915 its using driver xorg-intel-wily-lts
[20:24] <jokke> hi
[20:24] <jokke> i need to install GObject in version >= 2.40
[20:25] <jokke> what are my options?
[20:30] <jokke> i'm on ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[20:32] <TimSchumi> I can't say much about 12.04 because I have 14.04, but in my Package Sources there is a package named gobject-introspection
[20:44] <ocram> Ciao
[20:44] <ocram> list!
[20:45] <k1l_> ocram: no warez here
[20:45] <jmadero_away> Blink`: you make any progress (I'm in and out doing real work)
[20:45] <ocram> Ok
[20:47] <jmadero_away> Blink`: this guide is pretty straight forward (it's amazing how many guides have inadequate, overly complicated steps): https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys--2
[20:50] <pedrito> what's the best way to remove a metapackage alone, dpkg -r --force-all package?
[21:02] <lmtd> i was considering getting a small laptop (13.3") with ubuntu pre-installed and a norwegian keyboard, however i can only find the dell xps which is too costly as i will only be using it for web (mail, surfing, news, youtube, etc) and office tools. is the Aquaris M10 FHD Ubuntu Edition featured on ubuntu's frontpage a viable alternative? or should i just get some cheap machine with windows on it and hope it's compatible with ubuntu?
[21:05] <Elec_A> Hello, I have installed TeamViewer and it starts automatically at startup. I want to know where it has put any script to do that? I couldn't find it in gnome-session-properties and even in /etc/init.d /
[21:05] <Fuchs> /etc/xdg/autostart/   probably
[21:07] <Elec_A> Fuchs: There is not any files that includes teamviewer in its name.
[21:07] <k1l_> Elec_A: in /etc/init ?
[21:09] <k1l_> Elec_A: what ubuntu and what desktop is that exactly?
[21:09] <Elec_A> k1l_: there is a file called teamviewerd.conf. and its data is http://paste.opensuse.org/11493004.
[21:09] <Elec_A> is it the one ?
[21:09] <Elec_A> k1l_: aforementioned file is in /etc/init/
[21:10] <Elec_A> k1l_: I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and unity.
[21:10] <k1l_> Elec_A: that is the upstart script to start it
[21:10] <Elec_A> k1l_: ohhh, Thank you so much.
[21:16] <Starxman> i need your guys help, when is the best time of day to run away from home?
[21:17] <k1l_> Starxman: this channels focus is technical ubuntu support
[21:18] <Starxman> okay fine then!!!
[21:26] <Geo> I was running a bash script and watching the output- my connetion dropped, but the script is still running- can I somehow get back 'in' to the output of that script, so that I can watch the status?
[21:27] <SchrodingersScat> Geo: if you were in a screen you can screen -ls to see which are available
[21:28] <Geo> I'm going to say no
[21:28] <SchrodingersScat> tmux?
[21:28] <Geo> it was ssh
[21:29] <SchrodingersScat> Geo: would check if it's still running with ps aux
[21:30] <Geo> it is
[21:30] <Geo> I just want to see the output
[21:36] <Geo> its on pts/0 .. .cant I redirect that to pts/1 ?
[21:40] <Loshki> Geo: without screen or vnc, it's unsupported, and if it were supported, I think it might be a glaring security hole.
[21:43] <TJ-> Geo: what are you trying to do (I came in after you described the issue)? If you're just trying to reparent a tty, try using 'reptyr'
[21:43] <dax> TJ-: they were running a script remotely and connection dropped. they reconnected and it's still running but on a different pty and they want to get the output
[21:44] <Geo> yep
[21:44] <TJ-> !info reptyr | Geo
[21:44] <Geo> thanks
[22:05] <ThePendulum_> 'lo
[22:14] <boriseto> Hello, is there a way to use hibernate in 14.04 without having a swap partition? I've found some suggestions, but there are some unclear things there for me...
[22:15] <totaleclipse> I just installed the ATI proprietary drivers and now im getting pretty bad screen tearing. Is there any way to fix this?
[22:18] <k1l> boriseto: you need a swap file if you dont have a swap partition.
[22:20] <boriseto> k1l, I see, so I guess with this "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=8M"  I'll create the swap file, right? What does count=8M stand for? that's the memory, right?
[22:21] <dax> boriseto: "write 1024 bytes at a time, 8 million times"
[22:21] <k1l> boriseto: it is for the amount of swap you will need. just use "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1G count=4"  and set "count=" to equal your ram size. in this example that would mean you have 4 GB ram
[22:22] <boriseto> dax, k1l , got it, thank you very much
[22:32] <eelstrebor> why is it that glibconfig.h appears in the /usr/lib tree and not in the /usr/include tree?
[22:33] <eelstrebor> looks like i have all the glib development packages installed
[22:33] <[Saint]> boriseto: I'm just gonna go ahead and risk putting it out there and people yelling at me and circlejerking - but, you probably don't need a swapfile at all.
[22:34] <[Saint]> depending on the host, you might even want to avoid swapping at all costs.
[22:34] <eelstrebor> one would think that if you have >= 32 GB of memory that you wouldn't need a swap file
[22:34] <[Saint]> considerably less.
[22:34] <[Saint]> assuming an average Joe User type user.
[22:35] <[Saint]> Anyway - I just don't like this "you need a swapfile" bullcrap.
[22:35] <[Saint]> Because it is just that, complete bull.
[22:35] <eelstrebor> you might depending on what you're doing
[22:35] <Fuchs> [Saint]: read again why he asked in the first place
[22:35] <Fuchs> he wants to use S4, which requires either swap or a swapfile
[22:36] <Fuchs> you'd be wrong anyway, but in this case very much so
[22:36] <boriseto> [Saint], o...k :), the thing is that I find it convenient to have hibernation, but I don't have a swap partition...
[22:36] <boriseto> [Saint], so I can't find any other way to do it
[22:36] <vladislav> hi guys'
[22:37] <[Saint]> It's not like you can't hibernate without a conventional swap.
[22:37] <[Saint]> But woe betide me for interrupting.
[22:39] <boriseto> [Saint] -_- (had to google the term cause it's the first time for me seeing it in use). How can I hibernate without conventional swap?
[22:39] <[Saint]> uswsusp is the obvious one that springs to mind.
[22:39] <Fuchs> which requires a swapfile
[22:40] <Fuchs> which is what he is creating
[22:42]  * eelstrebor wonders how well uswsusp functions - i see it in the repository
[22:45] <[Saint]> well, it works.
[22:46] <TJ-> eelstrebor: your original question re: glibconfig.h ... because there are different versions for different architectures, and /usr/include is arch:all
[22:47] <TJ-> eelstrebor: the :i386 and :amd64 versions of the libglib2.0-dev package  each have glibconfig.h
[22:47] <[Saint]> I generally avoid such setups, though, save for a laptop with a very indecisive battery where I have it setup to suspend to RAM and swap, because suspend to RAM gets negated by the system thinking it depletes its battery occasionally.
[22:48] <eelstrebor> TJ-, thanks - i think i may have found a solution to my problem using pkg-config
[22:48] <dax> i'm not sure "i don't like hibernate" is relevant to a support question about how to hibernate
[22:48] <[Saint]> cool story - but, who said such a thing?
[22:48]  * eelstrebor needs to create a cheat sheet for all these utilities - it's sometimes a pain to build programs from source without them
[22:49] <Guest10617> hey, can someone tell me what the process Xorg is for?
[22:49] <TJ-> eelstrebor: or use the Debian packaging to wrap updated sources, and then just do "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[22:50] <dax> Guest10617: it puts graphics on your screen, basically
[22:50] <k1l> Guest10617: basically to run the GUI
[22:50] <eelstrebor> TJ-, lots to learn and i hope i'll be able to remember it all
[22:52] <Guest10617> okay thank you
[22:56]  * Fuchs licks dax
[22:56] <boriseto> Couldn't connect it properly (even though I have a swap file and the system seems to use it). I guess, for the next time, I'll just create a swap partition. :|
[22:59] <Fuchs> boriseto: actually the system should not be using it, you have to disable that, at least for uwsusp
[22:59] <Fuchs> boriseto: see https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition
[22:59] <boriseto> Fuchs, I see, so just a swapoff -a shoud do it?
[23:00] <Fuchs> boriseto: but yes, I recommend a swap partition. Consider shrinking an existing partition, ext should be feasible
[23:01] <boriseto> Fuchs, thanks, will look into it.
[23:01] <arce> hi, I am new for ubuntu and kubuntu, can someone explain me, what are the benefits for swap partition?
[23:01] <Fuchs> arce: you need one if you want to suspend to disk
[23:02] <arce> what do you mean to suspend to disk?
[23:02] <Fuchs> arce: aside from that: when your RAM runs full, swap will be used before the out of memory killer goes and randomly kills processes, some of which you might rather not want killed
[23:02] <Fuchs> arce: S4, it's a power save state usually found in mobile devices such as laptops. Also called hibernate.
[23:02] <arce> Fuchs: thanks for the answer, more clear now
[23:02] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[23:07] <cliffer> i have problems using ldap2dns, it cant connect to any server (using -h localhost; netstat -tulpen shows 389 is open) or returns "ldap_sasl_bind: Assertion `ld != ((void *)0)' failed." (using -h ldap:///). any idea?
[23:21] <New2Linux> Hi guys
[23:21] <New2Linux> I face a problem when I try to install this program (wolf's cpuminer)
[23:21] <New2Linux> and this is the link to download its source :
[23:21] <New2Linux> https://github.com/wolf9466/cpuminer-multi/archive/master.zip
[23:22] <New2Linux> it is a software to mine crypto currencies using cpu
[23:22] <New2Linux> this software depends on 2 things : 1- libcurl4-gnutls-dev (which depends on libcurl3-gnutls version "7.22.5") 2- C library called (jansson)
[23:23] <New2Linux> I use Ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) on 32-bit cpu(x86) and my (/etc/apt/sources.list) is configured correctly so I can locate the needed packages to install the two libraries that listed above
[23:23] <New2Linux> but when I try to excuate (sudo apt-get update) then (sudo apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev) I read something like this on my terminal:
[23:24] <New2Linux> unable to install for unmet dependcies
[23:24] <New2Linux> libcurl4-gnutls-dev depends on: libcurl3-gnutls (7.22.5) but it is not going to be installed
[23:24] <New2Linux> ----and a lot of similar lines----
[23:24] <dvdmuckle> try `sudo apt-get install -f`
[23:24] <New2Linux> I've tried to use --fix-missing and -f switches but it didn't work
[23:25] <dvdmuckle> oh
[23:25] <New2Linux> it seems that there is a recent version (7.35.XX) of the (libcurl3-gnutls) installed on my distro so it conflicts with the old one (7.22.5) that I try to install and when I tried to uninstall it and install  the old needed one(7.22.5) I've failed
[23:25] <zz> doesn't aptitude fix these things automaticly?
[23:26] <New2Linux> No
[23:26] <New2Linux> please guys try to install this software on a VM machine and let me know if you get it worked and how did you do that.
[23:26] <New2Linux> NOTE : If you want to try to install this program you have to install autoconf first through:
[23:26] <New2Linux> >sudo apt-get install autoconf
[23:27] <New2Linux> and then (inside the source folder):
[23:27] <New2Linux> >chmod 777 ./configure.ac
[23:27] <TJ-> !info libcurl3-gnutls trusty
[23:28] <New2Linux> NOTE 2 : I know that it's not profitable to mine on cpu but now I consider installing this program as my challenge because my brother who uses Microsoft Windows 8 OS is criticizing me for using a hard-to-use OS [ as he said not me :) ] such Linux Ubuntu and I want to prove to him that installing softwares on linux is not a hard thing at all so this my main target and I don't care for money because I know that it's not profitable 
[23:28] <TJ-> !info libcurl4-gnutls-dev trusty
[23:29] <New2Linux> I know that but the cpuminer wants the old version 7.22.5
[23:29] <New2Linux> and I don't konw why!
[23:30] <New2Linux> so how can I install the old one (7.22.5)
[23:30] <TJ-> New2Linux: you don't
[23:30] <New2Linux> know
[23:31] <New2Linux> it's just a typo sorry
[23:31] <TJ-> New2Linux: you'll need to build the package against the system's libraries
[23:32] <New2Linux> ok but how can I do that
[23:32] <New2Linux> I think that I have to uninstall the 7.35 first then istall the old one (7.22.5)
[23:33] <New2Linux> but where can I get it ?
[23:33] <TJ-> New2Linux: For Trusty 14.04, libcurl4-gnutls-dev (7.35.0-1ubuntu2.6) depends on libcurl3-gnutls (= 7.35.0-1ubuntu2.6)  - if your system claims something else then the packages are out-of-date, or you've installed from somewhere else
[23:33] <New2Linux> is there a link for the old .deb
[23:33] <TJ-> New2Linux: libcurl4-gnutls-dev (7.22.0-3ubuntu4.15) is from 12.04 Precise, not 14.04 Trusty
[23:33] <TJ-> !info libcurl4-gnutls-dev precise
[23:34] <TJ-> New2Linux: so you've either got your system stuck between releases (12.04 > 14.04) or you've mis-read something
[23:35] <New2Linux> I have tried to install it on my 14.04 using the 12.04 precise repositories but it failed
[23:35] <TJ-> New2Linux: well, that would break the system
[23:36] <New2Linux> I comment the old lines in the sources.list file
[23:36] <New2Linux> and entered the lines of the 12.04 precise repositories
[23:37] <TJ-> New2Linux: right, which has broken the Trusty install because you've mixed incompatible package versions, which is NOT supported
[23:37] <New2Linux> ok what should i do in this case
[23:38] <New2Linux> I don't have the 12.04 and I don't want to install it
[23:38] <New2Linux> why I can't enforce my distro to use the repositories of ubuntu 12.04
[23:39] <New2Linux> is there anyway to do that or I have to install the ubuntu 12.04 on my pc
[23:41] <New2Linux> I'm sorry because I've asked you a lot of questions but I'm really new to linux and I don't konw much about it
[23:41] <New2Linux> and what I can do with linux and what I can't
[23:42] <New2Linux> do you have a link to download the 12.04 precise version?
[23:42] <morph-> New2Linux the question is, what do YOU want to do?
[23:43] <morph-> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[23:43] <New2Linux> I want to use the repositories of 12.04 on my ubuntu 14.04
[23:43] <popey> New2Linux: don't do that
[23:43] <New2Linux> Why?????
[23:44] <zykotick9> New2Linux: while this link is designed for debian, much of it applies to ubuntu as well https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian when you added 12.04's repos to your 14.04 system, you created an Frankenbuntu
[23:44] <popey> New2Linux: not a wise idea to use unsupported old debs on a newer release
[23:45] <antiPoP> hi
[23:45] <New2Linux> so I can't use old softwares on my recent version of ubuntu
[23:45] <Jordan_U> New2Linux: Mining cryptocurrencies via CPU will literally cost you much more in electricity bills than you will make, and for bitcoin you are literally going to make nothing without dedicated GPU based hardware. Things have changed.
[23:45] <popey> New2Linux: the better thing to do is get a newer and supported version of the software you're running
[23:45] <popey> (also, what Jordan_U says, you won't make money)
[23:45] <New2Linux> I know that it's not profitable to mine on cpu but now I consider installing this program as my challenge because my brother who uses Microsoft Windows 8 OS is criticizing me for using a hard-to-use OS [ as he said not me :) ] such Linux Ubuntu and I want to prove to him that installing softwares on linux is not a hard thing at all so this my main target and I don't care for money because I know that it's not profitable to mine o
[23:45] <antiPoP> I need an image viewer where I can click on one image, and the navigate through the other images on that dir. What do you suggest?
[23:46] <popey> New2Linux: you're failing at that goal :)
[23:46] <popey> New2Linux: pick a better thing to demo
[23:46] <New2Linux> oh no
[23:46] <popey> New2Linux: basically get a newer miner, not that specific one. it's simple really
[23:47] <popey> that one is 2 years old and not built for your newer version
[23:47] <Jordan_U> New2Linux: Use something available in the default repositories like cgminer. "sudo apt-get install cgminer"
[23:47] <New2Linux> but there isn't a newer version so what I can do in this case
[23:48] <popey> New2Linux: use something else
[23:48] <popey> New2Linux: trust us on this one.
[23:48] <bazhang_> try #eligius
[23:48] <New2Linux> ok
[23:48] <New2Linux> but what is "Frankenbuntu"?
[23:48] <zykotick9> New2Linux: mixing releases is bad...  that's the message ;)
[23:48] <New2Linux> is it a distro?
[23:49] <New2Linux> Ok I'm sorry because I'm an Arab guy
[23:49] <popey> New2Linux: it's a joke.
[23:50] <New2Linux> Ok I'm sorry because I'm an Arab guy so I can't understand the Western English jokes
[23:50] <popey> :)
[23:50] <zykotick9> New2Linux: sorry.
[23:51] <New2Linux> don't worry
[23:51] <New2Linux> it's my fault not yours
[23:52] <New2Linux> really you're very helpful good guys thanks very much for your help and your joke ;)
[23:52] <squinty> New2Linux,  grab a 12.04 iso -> do a full install to a 16 gig usb stick-> access your program from the stick
[23:52] <squinty> New2Linux,  just a thought
[23:53] <New2Linux> ok I will try everything to win the challenge with my brother
[23:54] <New2Linux> it's a principle matter
[23:55] <Jordan_U> New2Linux: What's wrong with using cgminer?
[23:55] <New2Linux> where can I get this iso file? because you know it's too old version
[23:55] <New2Linux> I have an ATI card and I hear that it works only with Nvidia
[23:56] <New2Linux> so cgminer is not useful for me
[23:57] <squinty> New2Linux, !12.04
[23:57] <squinty> !12.04
[23:58] <squinty> New2Linux,  or use this link  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[23:58] <New2Linux> and I don't kow if cgminer will work with the cryptonight (or cryptonote) hashing algorithm
[23:59] <New2Linux> btw, do you know that algorithm is an Arabic word