[02:26] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-announces-snappy-2-0-ahead-of-the-snappy-ubuntu-core-16-04-lts-release-503055.shtml
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> someone encoutered something similar on xenial yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1571454
[04:51] <devslash_> hi
[04:51] <devslash_> is 16.04 stable enough to upgrade now
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> devslash_: clean installs are rocksolid
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> devslash_: you can try the sudo do-release-upgrade -d if you cant wait any longer
[04:53] <devslash_> id be doing an upgrade not clean install
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> devslash_: and backup before you upgrade
[05:02] <iMadper> Many users complain to me our ubuntu16.04 daily build can not be installed on skylake systems. Any chance to enable i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 by default?
[05:04] <dax> that parameter isn't needed for linux 4.4, which xenial has
[05:05] <iMadper> dax: I just tested'd it on thinkpad x1c 4rd. The param is still needed.
[05:05]  * iMadper let me remove it and reboot to test it again.
[05:05] <dax> skylake support was removed from preliminary in 4.3. if you still need it, that wouldn't match my skylake testing results
[05:06]  * iMadper oooops...
[05:07] <iMadper> dax: Yeah, you are right...
[05:07] <dax> okay good, was hoping there wasn't yet another skylake complication to worry about :)
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> some nice skylake news on phoronix.com also :p
[05:13] <dax> the mjg59 thing or...?
[05:13] <dax> 'cause if so, that's only on mobile thankfully. plus i got it straight from mjg59's blog feed :)
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> dax: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=phoronix_news
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> hardware & intel
[05:25] <syth> lotuspsychje thanks for the link kern updated
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> syth: did you do it the mainline way now?
[05:25] <syth> Yes
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> great!
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> syth: you have anything that doesnt work by default on 4.4 perhaps?
[05:26] <syth> Nope ,everything i use works fine
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> syth: why goto 4.6 then?
[05:27] <syth> I like minor updates :^)
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:29] <syth> Custom kernel sounds cool , lotuspsychje
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> if the system needs is yes
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> it
[07:08] <bittin> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/98906/ubuntu-16-04-from-warty-to-wimpy-las-413/
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:16] <Fudge> hi
[12:00] <ub_ubuntu> what are the new features in 16.04
[12:02] <BluesKaj> ub_ubuntu, google is your friend when you ask such a general question
[13:27] <arca_vorago> Upgraded to 16.04, lightdm no longer starting on boot. Once I login and "sudo systemctl start lightdm" all is well though. Suggested course of action?
[13:28] <k1l> what tells dmesg or syslog about the video drivers or other issues?
[13:29] <brainwash> arca_vorago: what does "systemctl status lightdm" return?
[13:31] <arca_vorago> at boot or right now?
[13:33] <arca_vorago> https://pastenib.com/v/bVksn6OeYMsRTgqt7KyU
[13:34] <arca_vorago> looking through syslog now
[13:36] <arca_vorago> nothing about lightdm in syslog
[13:36] <arca_vorago> I don't think its even trying to start it
[13:36] <k1l> any errors about video drivers?
[13:36] <k1l> wait, is this s kubuntu?
[13:37] <brainwash> arca_vorago: the service is enabled tho
[13:37] <brainwash> arca_vorago: check "journalctl -b -u lightdm"
[13:37] <arca_vorago> It started out as a normal 15.04 install, at some point I installed kde and it started saying kubuntu... not sure why
[13:38] <brainwash> arca_vorago: there are logs in /var/log/lightdm also
[13:38] <k1l> arca_vorago: kubuntu/kde needs the ssdm since 15.10
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: your ssdm issue related to ^ ?
[13:39] <arca_vorago> https://ghostbin.com/paste/d7ruw
[13:39] <arca_vorago> ssdm?
[13:40] <k1l> *sddm
[13:40] <k1l> that is the *dm for kde now
[13:41] <arca_vorago> I don't use kde, it's just installed, and sddm is installed
[13:43] <BluesKaj> arca_vorago, sddm is needed, it should be installed by default in 16.04 , drop  to a VT/TTY (ctrl+alt+F1-F6) and login at the prompt , then run , sudo systemctl enable sddm , then sudo systemctl start sddm, then reboot
[13:43] <brainwash> why reboot?
[13:44] <arca_vorago> any reason I cant just do "sudo systemctl enable sddm" from a normal term?
[13:44] <brainwash> you can
[13:44] <BluesKaj> weel if you have a desktop then do so , ar
[13:45] <brainwash> I thought he wants to fix his lightdm
[13:45] <brainwash> so, disabling sddm would be the way to go (in case it's enabled)
[13:45] <BluesKaj> brainwash, he's on kde/kubuntu , sddm is the defualt DM
[13:46] <brainwash> "It started out as a normal 15.04 install, at some point I installed kde and it started saying kubuntu... not sure why"
[13:46] <brainwash> I see no reason why lightdm should not work anymore
[13:47] <BluesKaj> brainwash, lightdm was probly removed during the install
[13:47] <brainwash> he is able to start it manually
[13:48] <brainwash> well, let's see if he returns..
[13:49] <arca_vorago> Ok, rebooted, when I tried to start sddm its exiting with a dependency error
[13:50] <BluesKaj> arca_vorago, ok then login with ligtdm or the VT , with the VT startx to get to the desktop
[13:51] <arca_vorago> already logged in via lightdm
[13:52] <BluesKaj> arca_vorago, updating and upgrading might bring in the required dependenies
[13:52] <arca_vorago> Already fully updated/upgraded
[13:52] <arca_vorago> maybe remove sddm and reinstall
[13:53]  * BluesKaj shrugs, well, that's your call
[13:53] <arca_vorago> ok, it's asking to pick sddm or lightdm, which is suggested?
[13:54] <arca_vorago> keep in mind for some reason my system thinks its a kubuntu install
[13:54] <BluesKaj> arca_vorago, did you install kubuntu-desktop or plasma-desktop ?
[13:55] <arca_vorago> plasma yeah
[13:55] <arca_vorago> I just like playing around with other dm/wms sometimes, have lots of em installed
[13:55] <BluesKaj> arca_vorago, then that expalins it
[13:55] <BluesKaj> expalins it, even
[13:56] <BluesKaj> :-)
[13:56] <arca_vorago> I was wondering what ex palins are, sounds scary
[13:56] <arca_vorago> Ok, gonna try this again after the reinstall
[13:56] <arca_vorago> brb
[13:56] <BluesKaj> typos = explains
[13:59] <wuzzi> bit of a problem... I think compiz is crashing. I am trying to run gnome-flashback amd when I do a "metacity --replace" the session crashes and I go back to lightdm. session runs fine but there is no window decorations. the flashback-compiz session just crashes. :(
[14:02] <arca_vorago> Thanks for all your help everyone. went to tty, disabled sddm, enabled lightdm, rebooted, all works. I guess for some reason both were trying to start so neither would work at boot, but since I knew lightdm was working and sddm wasnt that was my clue
[14:03] <DirtyCajun> what statement do i need to put in my release-upgrades to allow to upgrade to final beta?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> DirtyCajun, just run updates  and upgrades and  full-upgrade on the release day and you should be up to date to the official release on thursday
[14:41] <BluesKaj> asuming you have Xenial installed already
[14:49] <DirtyCajun> so apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get full-upgrade ?
[14:52] <k1l> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:53] <k1l> (that only works now when no repo is failing due to weak signing)
[15:31] <DirtyCajun> right.
[19:07] <brianx> i'm having trouble finding the .desktop file for an app.  i correctly installed something outside "Software" by unzipping it into a folder and running it.  then i locked the icon to the Unity Launcher.  where does this place the .desktop file?
[19:14] <chowder> Hey guys. I'm trying to install some stuff and I keep getting the same error: Bad header line [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]
[19:14] <chowder> are any of the repos frozen or is access limited until the release date?
[19:15] <chowder> not sure if the error could be on my end as that IP takes you to the Ubuntu security notices page
[19:17] <squinty> brianx,   sudo updatedb ->  locate .desktop | grep <app name>
[19:17] <brianx> squinty: that was an early attempt.  nada. :-(
[19:18] <squinty> chowder: maybe try another mirror
[19:18] <brianx> does locking an icon to the launcher even create a .desktop?
[19:20] <squinty> brianx, you did run that first command (sudo updatedb)?   if the desktop file was generated it should show up after updating the database
[19:20] <brianx> i ran the updatedb first.
[19:23] <brianx> squinty: after updatedb in a root shell, as me i also ran: grep -i cubemx `locate .desktop | grep "\.desktop$" | tail`
[19:23] <brianx> minus the tail.
[19:24] <brianx> minus the tail. works much better.  tail was to keep my screen less cluttered by testing the `` program. :-|
[19:28] <chowder> squinty: how would I change mirrors?
[19:29] <squinty> chowder,  bring Software and Updates
[19:29] <squinty> up
[19:29] <chowder> squinty: ok
[19:29] <chowder> Is it the "download from" field?
[19:30] <squinty> chowder:  you should also see a provision for automatically setting the best server
[19:30] <brianx> thanks squinty.
[19:30] <chowder> squinty: awesome, thanks
[19:31] <squinty> brianx,  yw  wish I could offer more.  fwiw, that second command you pasted doesn't seem to work here.  will check it out a little later for myself  :-)
[19:32] <brianx> squinty: grep -i executable `locate .desktop | grep "\.desktop$"` should be much more usable.
[19:33] <squinty> brianx,  took your original paste and then subbed "thunderbird" for you cubemx   weird lol
[19:33] <brianx> squinty: this search avoids the possibility that the app and the executable are not the same name, in my case i was 100% sure of the executable (because it's what i ran in my terminal) but not the app name
[19:34] <gregL> brianx, Look in usr/share applications
[19:34] <brianx> gregL: that is where it got created.  :-)
[19:36] <gregL> brianx, Yes I have several custom launchers and I put them there..
[19:36] <brianx> my issue turned out to be case.  the file is STM32CubeMX.desktop and grep was for cubemx.  then my better command had the |tail left on it by mistake. (also preventing a successful find)
[19:38] <squinty> brianx,  hmm...weird it didn't find it then as partial names should be locate and you use grep -i to eliminate the capitals letters
[19:39] <brianx> i had left the |tail from testing (developed the command in steps)
[19:40] <squinty> brianx, ahhh..  :-)
[20:28] <satysin> hi
[20:28] <satysin> what is the RC out?
[20:29] <BluesKaj> satysin, official release is thursday
[20:29] <satysin> yeah but the RC was due on the 14th
[20:30] <satysin> yet it is still beta 2?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> yup, afaik
[20:30] <satysin> does that mean final release wont be on thursday?
[20:30] <teward> no
[20:30] <satysin> as they usually have a week of RC
[20:31] <BluesKaj> once installed there be will over 500 upgrades
[20:31] <satysin> ah
[20:32] <teward> ^
[20:32] <teward> what BluesKaj said
[20:32] <BluesKaj> yeah i reinstalled beta 2 yesterday
[20:33] <teward> I reinstalled Xenial from a daily from last week - then updated - 250 updates.
[20:33] <teward> :P
[20:33] <satysin> how stable is the daily?
[20:33] <teward> well, none of my Xenials are in a production environment heh
[20:33]  * teward waits a bit after release to make sure major bugs get squished :P
[20:34] <satysin> gonna install b2 then updates
[20:34] <satysin> cheers all
[20:50] <MoPac> Hello. I'm experiencing some pretty bad errors that I think are graphics-related with 16.04 Unity, and I'm not sure the best way of troubleshooting/reporting them. Example: in LibreOffice (5.1), dialog boxes have been rendering badly (garbled text, missing boxes, flashing, etc). And sometimes doing work in dialog boxes, like telling LO whether to recover a doc or not, crashes the *entire* session.
[20:50] <MoPac> example paste: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15920750/
[20:51] <MoPac> so it's i915 -- I installed the stack through the Intel open source repository during 15.10
[21:19] <satysin> all installed and updated, is working nice
[21:33] <rwong> same
[21:33] <rwong> i was waiting for RC for a not-so-important build environment :P
[21:35] <satysin> yeah I guess beta2 + the "partial upgrade" it prompts you to do is RC??
[21:35] <satysin> strange no ISO tho
[21:42] <squinty> iso's of the daily builds are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[21:43] <satysin> yeah, wasnt sure if they were stable tho
[21:43] <satysin> plus had b2 downloaded
[22:03] <nacc> squinty: fyi, we have
[22:03] <nacc> !rc
[22:03] <nacc> as a quick answer :)
[23:22] <denlud> Hey whats up?
[23:38] <denlud> Test test test....
[23:38] <denlud> Seems like IRC is working with the new Build.