| anton_may | wazzup peeps, another day in paradise | 06:04 |
|---|---|---|
| TheMurdz | Morning morning! | 06:05 |
| TheMurdz | Meh, it's monday.. | 06:05 |
| anton_may | yip and another day closer to death! | 06:05 |
| Kilos | cremora | 06:07 |
| anton_may | lol | 06:07 |
| Kilos | hi there anton_may | 06:08 |
| anton_may | mornings Kilos | 06:08 |
| Kilos | takes a while till i see who is here | 06:08 |
| anton_may | puffy eyes? | 06:08 |
| Kilos | no konversation takes long to shows hosts and then i only see who is afk | 06:09 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen theblazehen skokkk Cryterion daimonos dlPhreak inetpro MaNI and others | 06:10 |
| theblazehen | Morning Kilos | 06:10 |
| Kilos | daimonos welcome to ubuntu-za | 06:11 |
| Kilos | oh its zipper | 06:11 |
| MaNI | morning | 06:30 |
| === Webtrici- is now known as Webtricity | ||
| Kilos | hi Wolfeyes | 06:59 |
| mazal | Mornings | 07:01 |
| Wolfeyes | hey Kilos, morning everyone | 07:01 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 07:01 |
| Wolfeyes | hey mazal | 07:01 |
| mazal | Big job today oom | 07:01 |
| Kilos | what? | 07:01 |
| mazal | Must add all additional software , configure and setup backups | 07:01 |
| Kilos | oh on 16.04 | 07:02 |
| mazal | Yep | 07:02 |
| mazal | Looks very nice and everything works fine so far , except for screen drivers | 07:03 |
| mazal | That app just hangs | 07:03 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:03 |
| Kilos | even afet update and upgrade | 07:03 |
| Kilos | after | 07:03 |
| mazal | Standing still for ages at " gathering information about your system " with no hdd activity or anything happening further | 07:03 |
| mazal | Yeah , updates is first thing I do | 07:04 |
| Kilos | try the additional drivers option | 07:04 |
| === daimonos is now known as zipper | ||
| mazal | That's the one hanging | 07:07 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:08 |
| mazal | And drivers is important for me Steam | 07:08 |
| Kilos | you will get it | 07:09 |
| mazal | Will check again later , busy setting up backup first now | 07:10 |
| Kilos | maybe you are rushing it too much | 07:10 |
| mazal | Left it for long , but will try again last and leave it longer | 07:11 |
| MaNI | Has anyone here ever shipped something "USPS First Class International" - how long did it take? | 07:23 |
| magespawn | good morning | 07:27 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 07:28 |
| mazal | Time to get minecraft working :) | 07:31 |
| mazal | Hi magespawn | 07:31 |
| magespawn | hey mazal | 08:03 |
| dlPhreak | Good morning everyone | 08:14 |
| mazal | Hi dlPhreak | 08:17 |
| mazal | Ugh man I hate this part , installating all the additional software :P | 08:17 |
| Kilos | time consuming | 08:18 |
| mazal | And the ppa's are missing and makes it harder | 08:20 |
| mazal | Or doesn't exist yet I should say | 08:20 |
| Wolfeyes | heya magespawn | 08:22 |
| Wolfeyes | heya dlPhreak | 08:23 |
| mazal | Oh man this is not good. One of my main apps is not installable :( | 08:26 |
| mazal | " handbrake-gtk : Depends: libx264-146 but it is not installable " | 08:27 |
| Kilos | check in repos | 08:39 |
| superfly | Kilos: it wasn't me! | 08:55 |
| Kilos | hahaha hi superfly | 08:57 |
| mazal | Oh man this is getting worse and worse | 09:00 |
| mazal | Another one of my apps don't have a deb or repo anymore :( Only win installers | 09:00 |
| mazal | Only source code , and I have no idea how to use that | 09:02 |
| Kilos | only worry about what you need in the near future | 09:02 |
| Kilos | or learn | 09:03 |
| Kilos | http://askubuntu.com/questions/140998/compiling-source-into-a-deb-package | 09:03 |
| mazal | This is apps I need | 09:04 |
| mazal | Some of my mosed used stuff | 09:04 |
| mazal | most* | 09:04 |
| Kilos | it will get done | 09:04 |
| Kilos | you didnt want to wait for release | 09:04 |
| mazal | No this project doesn't have "any" repo or debs anymore. For no version of Ubu or linux | 09:08 |
| Kilos | remember this next time you want to upgrade early | 09:08 |
| mazal | Shees I won't be able to do half the stuff I do | 09:09 |
| Kilos | compli your own from the source | 09:09 |
| Kilos | compile | 09:09 |
| superfly | mazal: which app is that? | 09:09 |
| mazal | I should have dual booted | 09:09 |
| mazal | superfly,DVD styler | 09:10 |
| mazal | I use it to recompile video files I cleaned | 09:10 |
| mazal | And the other is Handbrake , that takes to mp4 | 09:10 |
| superfly | handbrake is in the repos? | 09:11 |
| superfly | I dunno, I use ffmpeg on the command line | 09:11 |
| superfly | yup, handbrake is still there | 09:11 |
| mazal | Hang on let me see , I tried the developer repo | 09:13 |
| superfly | mazal: I try to stay far away from ppas | 09:13 |
| mazal | Lots of software you can only get in ppa's | 09:14 |
| mazal | Handbrake was one of them. Never was in Ubu repo's before | 09:14 |
| mazal | Ok I see it in repo's , gonna try that | 09:14 |
| mazal | And I see they changed the package name also , is why apt install didn't see it | 09:16 |
| inetpro | mazal: you are wrong, listen to superfly | 09:16 |
| mazal | inetpro, I have plenty of apps that is not in Ubu repo's. So what must one do then , not have apps ? | 09:16 |
| inetpro | handbrake is there in the standard repos under Section: universe/graphics | 09:16 |
| inetpro | btw, good mornings everyone | 09:17 |
| mazal | Yeah that one I found now like I said | 09:17 |
| inetpro | oh and mazal sorry but I can not discuss now, too much on my plate here | 09:17 |
| superfly | mazal: look for alternatives? | 09:17 |
| mazal | They change the package name also otherwise apt in cli would have gotten it from there anyway | 09:18 |
| superfly | "apt search <part of package name>" | 09:18 |
| inetpro | feel free to talk to others though... but ultimately I agree 100% with spuerfly, stay away from PPA's as far as humanly possible | 09:18 |
| inetpro | s/spuerfly/superfly/ | 09:18 |
| mazal | Many times one has no choice. If software isn't there one have to go ppa's | 09:18 |
| * inetpro bites his lip and avoids arguing | 09:19 | |
| mazal | I get what you guys saying , but the repo's simply doesn't have all software. | 09:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:20 |
| Kilos | they afre still working on it mazal | 09:21 |
| Kilos | are | 09:21 |
| mazal | Kilos, there are plenty software they simply don't put in the repo's. The next one on my list for example , the media server I use , has never been in any Ubu repo | 09:23 |
| Kilos | thats your choice | 09:23 |
| mazal | If it's the only thing that works I don't really have a choice | 09:23 |
| Kilos | always try built in apps first | 09:23 |
| mazal | There is no alternatives | 09:24 |
| Kilos | works for what | 09:24 |
| mazal | This one is a media server that serves media to my PS3 | 09:24 |
| mazal | And this is just one example | 09:24 |
| mazal | I install most apps from repo's sure. It's always my first choice also , but it simply doesn't have everything | 09:25 |
| Kilos | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ps3MediaServer | 09:25 |
| mazal | And there you proove my point , add ppa in those steps lol | 09:26 |
| Kilos | but the main thing now is if ubuntu itself is running properly not gaming add ons | 09:26 |
| * inetpro would love to see the long list of software he uses of which he claims there is no other alternatives | 09:26 | |
| mazal | Media serving is not a gaming add-on. It's a entertainment source that many peeps use in their homes. I just happen to use the PS3 as a front-end | 09:28 |
| Kilos | somewhere the is an irc channel where they work on all the stuff for releases | 09:29 |
| Kilos | i couldnt follow half or more of what they are doing | 09:29 |
| Kilos | so better to wait for release date imo | 09:30 |
| mazal | Ag no can't use this one either | 09:31 |
| mazal | Depends on openjdk7 , and I think we are on 8 if I am not mistaken | 09:32 |
| Kilos | have you set your update manager to see other apps | 09:32 |
| mazal | This one's project was stopped in 2013 :( | 09:34 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:34 |
| Kilos | find an alternative | 09:34 |
| magespawn | mazal that does happen on occasion, sometimes the project is taken up later | 09:35 |
| mazal | magespawn, yeah. Another one of my favs that died is REDO backup | 09:37 |
| mazal | This one seems to work with java 8 though , could do the config. Will test tonight properly | 09:37 |
| mazal | libdvdcss I can't get either | 09:38 |
| mazal | Ok oom Kilos , I can't go any further so time to test that iso generate thing | 09:40 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:40 |
| mazal | I see they regularly updated it , so here goes | 09:41 |
| mazal | Another example of software not in the repo's btw | 09:42 |
| Kilos | there will be something about it in google | 09:42 |
| mazal | Kilos, I'm gonna do an iso , take it to stick or dvd , and boot with that to test. Will give feedback after that | 09:42 |
| Kilos | i looked for a package before and thought it was missing but it had been built into something else | 09:43 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:43 |
| magespawn | mazal isn't libdvdcss in restricted? | 09:44 |
| Kilos | or built into dvdread or the lib package | 09:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 10:00 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 10:00 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 10:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz ty | 10:05 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 10:05 |
| magespawn | whoops, did not even seem hom leave | 10:27 |
| magespawn | s/hom/him | 10:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:27 |
| Kilos- | hmm... | 10:38 |
| mazal | Oom Kilos , some feedback on systemback | 11:59 |
| mazal | Creates iso easily. On the life iso right now. All seems fine with all apps included | 12:00 |
| mazal | However , it still puts all your configs into the iso as well | 12:00 |
| mazal | So it's still an excellent option for private use and recovery , but can't be given to someone sle for use | 12:00 |
| mazal | Even my email config is in the live system. Very nice option for private use | 12:03 |
| magespawn | so you need to create a system or another live system to create the systemback cd from | 12:15 |
| magespawn | and he is gone again | 12:15 |
| Kilos- | ai! | 12:16 |
| Kilos- | ty mazal | 12:19 |
| Kilos- | ill try remember that | 12:19 |
| mazal | Works very nice oom , very straight forward | 12:19 |
| Kilos- | cool | 12:19 |
| mazal | Just a pitty there isn't an options for " no user config mode " or something like that | 12:20 |
| mazal | One wouldn't be able to give that iso for someone else to install or try Ubu | 12:20 |
| mazal | But I will defnitely use it for my re-installs on my own pc's | 12:20 |
| Kilos- | if you want to install for others maybe you could delete conf files maybe | 12:21 |
| magespawn | so you need to create a system or another live cd/usb to create the systemback cd from | 12:21 |
| Kilos- | and maybe the addusers way | 12:21 |
| magespawn | does it copy all the config files for all the users on a system? | 12:22 |
| mazal | magespawn,I dunno , I only have 1 user on my pc | 12:23 |
| mazal | magespawn, and no , systemback is installed on your current system. From it's interface you create a live iso. Then just burn the iso to dvd or usb | 12:24 |
| mazal | It has some other system restore point features as well that I haven't tried | 12:25 |
| Kilos- | hi bushtech hows the signal today | 12:29 |
| magespawn | so then if using it for distibution, create a live cd with it installed, then install all the needed software and then create the systemback cd | 12:30 |
| magespawn | live usb migh work better, then you can add software as needed | 12:31 |
| magespawn | s/migh/might | 12:31 |
| bushtech | Kilos-: Still more or less the same. the second line on mtr is just ???. Cant even id the ip addres | 12:31 |
| Kilos- | eish | 12:31 |
| Kilos- | TheMurdz | 12:31 |
| TheMurdz | Ola! | 12:31 |
| TheMurdz | What's up | 12:32 |
| Kilos- | has afrihost got any clout with mtn | 12:32 |
| TheMurdz | MEH, a little bit. Mainly if it's related to us. If it's unrelated to us, then meh. | 12:32 |
| Kilos- | poor bushtech having a hard time | 12:32 |
| TheMurdz | Hmm, What's the Eish bushtech? | 12:33 |
| bushtech | and still waiting on them for tower location | 12:33 |
| TheMurdz | Oh geez. Hmm | 12:34 |
| bushtech | my speed has dropped | 12:34 |
| TheMurdz | Can you send me the ref that MTN Got you? | 12:34 |
| TheMurdz | gave * | 12:34 |
| TheMurdz | (again) | 12:34 |
| bushtech | coming up | 12:34 |
| bushtech | pm'ed | 12:35 |
| TheMurdz | :) | 12:35 |
| mazal | magespawn, that's exactly what I use it for. re-install with all extra software already included | 12:36 |
| mazal | I install normal on my pc , add all extra software I need. Install systemback and then make live iso with systemback | 12:37 |
| mazal | Been doing it for years to save time and data on re-installs. Previously used remastersys , but that project died also | 12:38 |
| pavlushka | Hello everyone!!! | 12:41 |
| magespawn | hi pavlushka | 12:44 |
| TheMurdz | Heya hey | 12:49 |
| Kilos- | oh bushtech you can run sudo fstrim -v /when things get slow | 12:51 |
| Kilos- | then trim doent need to be activated | 12:51 |
| bushtech | Kilos-: I did last night and it did something but I don't think it used my ssd as fstrim apparently doesn't run on ext2 disks and my ssd is ext2 :( | 12:54 |
| Kilos- | oh my | 12:55 |
| pavlushka | TheMurdz: hey Heya | 12:55 |
| Kilos- | why ext2 | 12:55 |
| bushtech | have no idea why I did that, was a long long time ago (in a galaxy far away) | 12:59 |
| Kilos- | hahaha | 12:59 |
| Kilos- | ext4 much better and less likely to lose data with power cuts | 12:59 |
| bushtech | the ssd only runs an OS so not much going on there | 13:00 |
| Kilos- | oh you not using it for everything | 13:00 |
| Kilos- | mine has to do everything | 13:01 |
| bushtech | it runs my media server | 13:01 |
| Kilos- | ah | 13:01 |
| mazal | bushtech, it is you that uses plex for media serving ? | 13:40 |
| Kilos- | inetpro go home | 13:46 |
| Kilos- | just in case storm coming | 13:46 |
| Kilos- | dont let the wind blow you off the bicycle | 13:47 |
| magespawn | hoem time chat later | 13:55 |
| magespawn | home too | 13:55 |
| bushtech | mazal: I di install plex on my media server but then found I could access my files directly without using plex. So, I've got it but dont use it | 14:06 |
| mazal | bushtech, ok. Time is now for me to look into alternatives. The one I used is outdated | 14:19 |
| zipper | Kilos-: Hey, it went well? | 14:43 |
| Kilos- | what zipper ? | 14:43 |
| zipper | The translation stuff? | 14:43 |
| zipper | 0.o | 14:44 |
| Kilos- | i have no idea anymore, i think they are connected now | 14:44 |
| Kilos- | i did the intros and left the mail contacting to them | 14:44 |
| Kilos- | i spose i could have asked them to cc me as well, but i already get too many mails | 14:45 |
| Kilos- | ill ask mike | 14:50 |
| zipper | Kilos-: It's okay | 15:51 |
| zipper | Kilos-: Awesome | 15:52 |
| Wolfeyes | Evening everyone | 16:55 |
| Wolfeyes | Kilos-: I got sed working on windows with cygwin | 16:56 |
| Kilos- | whatever that is | 16:57 |
| Wolfeyes | lol | 16:58 |
| Kilos- | i go eat | 17:00 |
| Kilos- | wbb | 17:00 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| * mazal fiddles | 18:39 | |
| Kilos | dont break things | 18:39 |
| mazal | I'm nored | 18:40 |
| mazal | bored* | 18:40 |
| mazal | Need something to do | 18:40 |
| Kilos | mazal i been thinking | 18:43 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: what? | 18:43 |
| Kilos | if you install from a systemback iso | 18:43 |
| Kilos | and you add an admin user | 18:43 |
| Kilos | then remove yourself | 18:44 |
| Kilos | does that person then have full control and have all his own config files | 18:44 |
| Kilos | and how would one remove all your own config files | 18:45 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: supposed to and yes, I did that on Ubuntu and Windows | 18:45 |
| mazal | That should work Kilos , as long as you do the install yourself | 18:45 |
| mazal | Create 2nd admin user and wipe the original user and it's home folder | 18:45 |
| Kilos | yes | 18:46 |
| mazal | Don't have 2nd pc , otherwise I would have tested it. But in theory it should work | 18:46 |
| pavlushka | I practical, it works as well. | 18:47 |
| pavlushka | *in practical | 18:48 |
| mazal | It's the same as if I give this pc as is to someone. Create id for him then wipe my own id and folder | 18:48 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:48 |
| mazal | One must just remember to make that 2nd id an admin id | 18:48 |
| * pavlushka yep | 18:49 | |
| mazal | BTW , on kubuntu do you just select that "admin user" option on the user's properties ? | 18:49 |
| Kilos | i havent looked | 18:50 |
| mazal | Or do you have to manually go add it to the sudo group in cli | 18:50 |
| Kilos | you can do it from cli quite easilly | 18:51 |
| Kilos | the pro showed me how couple of years ago | 18:51 |
| Kilos | unity needed and extra admin to fix the first admins probs | 18:52 |
| mazal | I usually did it by adding the user to sudo group , but that was a while ago | 18:52 |
| mazal | That's a good idea on any system really | 18:53 |
| Kilos | it was just admin or --admin added to the adduser command | 18:53 |
| mazal | On winbloze I always have a 2nd admin user | 18:53 |
| mazal | I added one now via user manager in system settings , but when I go back there it's gone | 18:54 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:54 |
| mazal | Gonna test it in a seperate terminal with an upgrade command | 18:57 |
| Wolfeyes | do you make the administrator appear in the tick box in admin tools mazal? | 18:58 |
| mazal | kewl , worked. So selecting that "admin user" in the user properties does the trick | 18:59 |
| mazal | Wolfeyes, no was wondering if that admin user option in the user's properties will give him full rights | 19:00 |
| Wolfeyes | from 7 they started to hide the admin user account, could even have been vista | 19:00 |
| Wolfeyes | it should | 19:00 |
| mazal | This is on Kubuntu Wolfeyes. | 19:01 |
| Wolfeyes | ah | 19:01 |
| mazal | It still doesn't show in my id's user manager anymore | 19:01 |
| mazal | But can log in with it though | 19:01 |
| Kilos | dont delete your home folder just rename it when you get there | 19:03 |
| mazal | No not gonna test that on this machine :P | 19:03 |
| Kilos | could be some hassle if both admins end up with same home | 19:03 |
| mazal | I just finished installing it hehehehe | 19:03 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:03 |
| mazal | This is the time I miss a "play and mess around with" pc | 19:03 |
| mazal | How do I see a user's info in cli ? | 19:05 |
| mazal | For example his group memberships | 19:05 |
| Kilos | i need sleep | 19:11 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:11 |
| mazal | Nag oom , lekker slaap | 19:11 |
| Kilos | dankie jy ook | 19:12 |
| inetpro | _ | 19:37 |
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