[06:15] <flocculant> rebuilding images
[06:38] <flocculant> ochosi: ack - done that then - just need you to do the XPL bit on launchpad now :)
[06:58] <flocculant> shame swissbot doesn't know when our normal images get built
[07:01] <Unit193> About how long for a rebuild?
[07:02] <flocculant> 30 minutes to announcement
[07:02] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/xenial/xubuntu
[07:02] <flocculant> says ~30 minutes ago - so 15 minutes for it to build 
[07:03] <flocculant> but that's just one set obviously - depends where we are in list if it's global rebuild :p
[07:34] <flocculant> bluesabre ochosi - rebuilt image with new artwork - all ok there 
[07:34] <flocculant> bbl
[09:01] <ochosi> flocculant: awesome, that's great news!
[10:57] <bluesabre> flocculant: indeed, great to hear
[10:59] <ochosi> bluesabre: thanks for all the hard work btw!
[11:00] <bluesabre> ochosi: of course :D still a bit more to do
[11:17] <ochosi> bluesabre: you mean for the 16.04 final image or in general? :)
[11:18] <bluesabre> Gotta figure out thunar, hopefully in a short amount of time
[11:19] <ochosi> yeah, the thunar issue... i know
[11:20] <ochosi> from what ali1234 wrote the patch i mentioned a while ago (by harald) fixes the crash, but then there's another problem with thunar not repainting correctly
[11:20] <ochosi> (i wonder what's worse)
[11:20] <bluesabre> ah
[11:20] <bluesabre> which patch
[11:21] <bluesabre> I think we can handle bad repainting, unless it always happens and you can't tell the file was moved
[11:22] <ali1234> there are only two patches on thunar git since the last release
[11:22] <ali1234> this one: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/commit/?id=029012f4c39d9d3d9ae617491a69f76f54a4192f
[11:23] <ali1234> and this one: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/commit/?id=77cf6ec3a3969589a4e9a8beea6a122b7dbcc2a0
[11:23] <ali1234> they both introduce extra checks and return if the checks fail
[11:24] <ali1234> so now instead of crashing, thunar just stops doing whatever it was doing and returns
[11:24] <ali1234> that seems to mean it stops before redrawing the screen
[11:24] <ali1234> so i conclude the bug is not actually fixed, it is just caught before it crashes
[11:28] <ochosi> yeah, sounds like a reasonable conclusion
[11:29] <ali1234> actually returning nothing instead of NULL probably causes the stack corruption that causes the crash, so it's probably the second patch that is responsible
[12:34] <bluesabre> ali1234, but it does seem like those patches would be desirable, would you agree?
[12:35] <ali1234> sure
[12:36] <bluesabre> Unit193, are those the ones we have in the PPA, or do we have another? If the latter, want to drop those into -staging for some quick testing? Otherwise, I'll get them in the PPA this evening.
[12:36] <bluesabre> bbl
[14:10] <flocculant> ochosi: you need to reply too https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2016-April/003694.html
[14:10] <flocculant> just in case you're not subscribed 
[14:54] <ochosi> flocculant: i received it and also replied (just now)
[14:54] <ochosi> but thanks for highlighting, there's always the chance that i'd have missed it
[14:55] <flocculant> ochosi: welcome - just thought that one I ought to say something before it's Thursday :p
[14:56] <ochosi> hehe, indeed
[14:57] <flocculant> :)
[14:59] <flocculant> ochosi: don't forget to add akxwi-dave either :D
[15:04] <Unit193> bluesabre: Just the former.
[15:05] <flocculant> oh damnation
[15:06] <flocculant> if I had thought to search with git I could have told ochosi this the other day :|
[16:33] <pjotter> Hi there people! Recently I have noticed that the icon of the whiskermenu sometimes disappears. When I hover the mouse over the positio where it should be, it becomes visible again. Does anyone know what's up with that?
[16:48] <flocculant> pjotter: I've just seen a couple of random reports around the place - not any sort of reason nor resolution
[16:49] <flocculant> nor can I remember exactly what either - possibly theme related 
[16:49] <pjotter> I just found the bug report
[16:49] <pjotter> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10656
[16:49] <pjotter> This is what happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAxa_0hbBCg
[16:50] <flocculant> oh yea - that reminded me now
[16:50] <pjotter> But I guess, they already know and are working on a fix... It's not a real big problem but it doesn't look good.
[16:50] <flocculant> but that is xfce4.10 
[16:51] <flocculant> isn't it? 
[16:52] <pjotter> I think so. I'm running 14.04 (out of the box) So, that's 4.10 isn't it?
[16:52] <pjotter> Yes, I got it. It's 4.10.
[16:53] <flocculant> aah and also 4.12 if you see comments
[16:54] <pjotter> hmmm... There is a patch supplied that is supposed to work
[16:55] <pjotter> http://bug-attachment.xfce.org/attachment.cgi?id=5969
[16:56] <flocculant> pjotter: would be good if we can get it confirmed as still there in 16.04 - might be able to do something for the .1 release
[16:56] <pjotter> Is 16.04 out already?
[16:56] <flocculant> there is a launchpad bug 1397095 too 
[16:57] <flocculant> pjotter: no - but there's a less than gnat's whisker of getting this looked at in 2 days ;)
[16:57] <pjotter> Probably... :D
[16:58] <flocculant> I'll add it to the 16.10 blueprint and see if I can confirm it next week 
[16:58] <pjotter> btw I'm on 14.04 amd64
[16:58] <flocculant> yep
[16:58] <pjotter> I really should start reporting these kinds of things to the launchpad... 
[16:58] <flocculant> my last unused 14.04 will bite the dust tomorrow when it gets subjected to an upgrade test
[17:00] <flocculant> pjotter: well - thanks for reminding me - sorry I can't actually help you :)
[17:00] <pjotter> Mine just crashed  yesterday. So I'm using a shiny new one right now... Until 16.04 comes out I guess :D
[17:00] <pjotter> It's ok
[17:00] <pjotter> You know there is a minor bug that has been in xubuntu for a very very long time. But many people don;t seem to notice.
[17:00] <flocculant> I don't doubt it at all :)
[17:02] <pjotter> It concerns the panel trash-icon. I put mine on the panel. And when I put something in the trash, log-out and in again... the icon is not updated properly and always shows an empty trashcan. Putting a dummy file in the trash and deleting it, updates the icon. I made a script that does this on every logon.
[17:03] <pjotter> It's probably related to xfce4 or the panel trash thingy.
[17:08]  * flocculant logs out and in 
[17:09] <flocculant> pjotter: shows full here - but xfce4.12 and xubuntu 16.04
[17:09] <pjotter> O great! Would love tyo see this solved.
[17:10] <pjotter> There just minor things, I know.
[17:10] <flocculant> pjotter: http://i.imgur.com/QT8ifSx.png
[17:10] <pjotter> I haven't actually tested this for a while now... let me make sure this is still an issue here...
[17:10] <pjotter> brb
[17:18] <dkessel> Confirmed that Repaint bug, flocculant
[17:21] <flocculant> dkessel: the dragging thingy? 
[17:21] <dkessel> flocculant: yup
[17:22] <flocculant> aah yes - I see you tagged it \o/
[17:22] <flocculant> dkessel: thanks :)
[17:26] <pjotter> back again ;)
[17:26] <flocculant> pjotter: wb 
[17:26] <pjotter> I couldn't get back on freenode.net :|
[17:26] <flocculant> ... 
[17:27] <pjotter> I had to switch to irc.ipv6.freenode.net instead. That seems to work
[17:27] <pjotter> Anyway... So, yups. The trash problem still remains in 4.10 and 14.04.
[17:28] <pjotter> It
[17:29] <flocculant> ok - just let me check here again
[17:30] <flocculant> pjotter: working here 
[17:30] <flocculant> so regardless of trash state - after login - it is correct
[17:30] <pjotter> Alright. So, it got fixed somewhere along the line then :) Nice
[17:31] <flocculant> :)
[17:31] <flocculant> off to do some grub - then back to the 'release is almost upon us again' things :)
[17:32] <flocculant> pjotter: btw someone has confirmed the 'dragging icon' bug in xenial while you were fighting with freenode
[17:32] <pjotter> Do you know the correct server for freenode?
[17:33] <pjotter> I just used chat.freenode.net 6667 But maybe it should have been irc.freenode.net?
[17:33] <pjotter> It's a bit puzzeling to me. Why the one minute I can get access to chat.freenode.net without any problem and another second, no matter what, I can't get on.
[17:34] <pjotter> hmmm... I just found chat.freenode.net:6697
[17:35] <pjotter> Let's see if that works
[17:35] <pjotter> brb
[17:36] <pjotter> Weird stuff... :/
[17:37] <pjotter> I'm back on using chat.freenode.net 6667 again. Now suddenly it works.
[17:37] <pjotter> anyways...
[18:23] <ochosi> akxwi-dave: hey - welcome to the xubuntu team! :) (i just added you to the LP team)
[18:25] <akxwi-dave> ochosi, thx mate.. :-)
[18:25] <ochosi> flocculant: ^
[18:25] <flocculant> ochosi: thanks :)
[18:25] <ochosi> no problemo :)
[18:26] <knome> --> https://xubuntu.org/?p=3909&preview=true
[18:26] <knome> feel free to poke around the content
[18:27] <flocculant> knome: which is over 10% more than in the 16.04 competition 
[18:27] <flocculant> 14.04?
[18:29] <ochosi> knome: nice!
[18:29] <ochosi> also, i gotta say (especially now that i see this overview again) that i'm quite happy with how the contest turned out. nice selection.
[18:30] <ochosi> bluesabre: and rly, bluesabreWife? :p didn't think you'd actually stick to that
[18:30] <flocculant> :)
[18:30] <akxwi-dave> sorry nothings coming up for me there.. assuming i'm supposed to see it.. :-)
[18:31] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: you need to be logged in 
[18:32] <akxwi-dave> doh....
[18:33] <flocculant> not sure who can do that tbh
[18:33] <flocculant> I think -team can - not sure
[18:33] <flocculant> knome will be able to tell you :)
[18:34] <akxwi-dave> knome did give a login for it a while ago i think
[18:34] <flocculant> k - see pm :)
[18:34] <akxwi-dave> cheers and in..
[18:34] <flocculant> knome: once you're done - I'll have a play with words :)
[18:35] <flocculant> ochosi: and yea - nice selection :)
[18:35] <akxwi-dave> oooooh very nice...
[18:36] <flocculant> never did here back from Mike Sinko
[18:36] <flocculant> sigh ... s/here/hear
[18:38] <knome> flocculant, that should say "more than in the 14.04 competition"
[18:39] <knome> -team can
[18:39] <flocculant> knome: I thought so - but you has lock and I didn't know if you were doing things or had wandered off for a bit :)
[18:39] <knome> i released the lock
[18:39] <knome> i was lying on the other side for a change :P
[18:40] <flocculant> :)
[18:40] <flocculant> knome: feeling better ?
[18:40] <knome> better than last week, yeah...
[18:40] <flocculant> good :)
[18:41] <knome> but doing anything leaves me gasping for breath in 5-10 minute
[18:41] <knome> s
[18:41] <flocculant> :(
[18:41] <knome> so not competely ok yet...
[18:41] <flocculant> that doesn't sound much fun 
[18:41] <knome> but it's ok on the sofa
[18:41] <flocculant> \o/
[18:43] <knome> so re: website permissions
[18:43] <knome> -team can log in a see everything
[18:43] <knome> -website can log in and do everything
[18:44] <flocculant> knome: reworded para 3 a bit 
[18:45] <flocculant> I did think of adding "We hope you approve" to there :)
[18:45] <knome> heh
[18:46] <flocculant> done anyway 
[18:46] <knome> nice
[18:47] <flocculant> knome: while you're about - the wiki note is more or less there now - I can make a start on the x.org if you want 
[18:47] <knome> so anything you need social mediaing and when?
[18:47] <knome> please do
[18:47] <flocculant> ack
[18:47] <knome> i'll chime in later when i'm feeling better
[18:47] <knome> hopefully starting from tomorrow
[18:47] <flocculant> yea - was my thought yesterday/today :)
[18:47] <pavlushka> knome: get well soon, wishes!
[18:47] <knome> but i can take care of the formatting at least, before thursday
[18:47] <knome> ta ta
[18:48] <flocculant> knome: you could tweet 
[18:49] <flocculant> "We now have images at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/359/builds available for testing." 
[18:49] <flocculant> os something like that
[18:50] <flocculant> bumping the facebook/g1 stuff perhaps
[18:51] <flocculant> not completely sure we see anything from those tbh - never seem to get random 1 off results much on the tracker
[18:51] <flocculant> back shortly
[18:52] <knome> flocculant, https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/722135416514744320
[18:54] <flocculant> knome: thanks :)
[18:55] <flocculant> really back shortly - got sidetracked with that youtube vid :p
[18:55] <knome> hahah
[19:21] <ochosi> yup, saw that vid as well and wanted to reshare it via g+
[19:38] <flocculant> bluesabre: do I remember correctly - mugshot has camera disabled? 
[19:39] <flocculant> would check - but waiting till the morning is easier than digging the camera out and having soundcard issues when it's plugged in :p
[19:41] <Nairwolf> I've tested yesterday, and mugshot has camera enabled
[19:42] <flocculant> k - thanks :)
[19:43] <flocculant> knome: draft is up - still needs bits sorting - it's pretty apparent where :)
[19:44] <knome> mhm
[19:44] <knome> i'll look tomorrow then
[19:44] <flocculant> yup
[19:44] <flocculant> I'll look tomorrow as well I expect 
[19:45] <flocculant> got one last nasty thing to do with the release note - then just check bug status for some later in the week
[20:16] <Nairwolf> flocculant: From a VM I can't have access to the webcam, so, in fact, I don't know if camera is disabled on mugshot
[20:17] <flocculant> yup - thanks Nairwolf 
[20:17] <flocculant> night all :)
[20:21] <Nairwolf> good night flocculant ;)
[21:10] <tsimonq2> Greetings, a user is having a problem with adjusting the brightness on his/her laptop using Lubuntu and claims it works on Xubuntu. What package does Xubuntu use for brightness?
[21:15] <pleia2> tsimonq2: you want the support channel
[21:16] <tsimonq2> pleia2: but I'm asking what *package* is used, I thought this would be development, but travelling over to #xubuntu :P :)
[21:48] <bluesabre> flocculant, Nairwolf, the camera is force disabled in the code, if it's not disabled, you might have mugshot from a ppa