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sgclarktracked down to nvidia problem. Same USB install medium worked just fine on a box with intel card.00:06
sgclarkBug filed. I have no clue how to fix graphic driver issues with ISOs.00:06
valorievery odd, look at this packagelist for today's updates: 04:43
valoriehe following packages will be upgraded:04:43
valorie  imagemagick imagemagick-6.q16 imagemagick-common kate kate5-data liblz4-1 libmagick++-6.q16-5v5 libmagickcore-6.q16-2 libmagickcore-6.q16-2-extra libmagickwand-6.q16-204:43
valorie  muon-discover muon-notifier muon-updater plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-discover-updater04:43
valoriewhy on earth do we still have muon-discover, or muon-notifier?04:43
valorieseems like those should have been uninstall automatically04:44
valorieSetting up muon-discover (4:5.6.2-1ubuntu1) ...04:44
valorieSetting up muon-notifier (4:5.6.2-1ubuntu1) ...04:44
valorieSetting up muon-updater (4:5.6.2-1ubuntu1) ...04:44
telegram<sgclark2>: Those are in discover package04:46
valorie@sgclark2 that's weird05:06
valoriebut OK05:06
sgclarkagreed, just the messenger haha05:06
sgclarkmust sleep, night night05:14
valoriesleep well, sgclark05:16
soeegood morning06:39
yofelvalorie: muon-* are empty transitional packages08:21
valorieoh good08:22
valoriethanks, yofel!08:22
telegram<ovidiuflorin>: I found this awesome tool: http://demangler.com/08:55
valorie"This American web site is proudly supporting Donald J Trump for President 2016." at the bottom, LOL08:56
telegram<ovidiuflorin>: WTF?08:56
telegram<ovidiuflorin>: I didn't notice that08:56
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: Good Morning09:06
valoriey'all have a good day; heading to bed here09:23
soeeit is 11:25 :D09:24
soeebo time for bed ... time to work work work :-)09:24
clivejoSho_: when is the best time to have a chat with you today?10:59
Sho_clivejo: in about 15 minutes maybe, we're currently having a meeting about the plasma 5.7 test days in #plasma11:00
clivejook11:00
Skuggenyofel: Did you do anything with the suggestions for making fresh installs of akonadi work with MySQL 5.7? Should I put the suggested fixes in bug reports?11:08
BluesKaj'Morning all11:09
clivejohi BluesKaj11:12
clivejohi slhk 11:12
BluesKajhey clivejo11:12
clivejoSkuggen: akonadi seems to be hold stable, even after shutdown last night11:13
Skuggenclivejo: Phew, that's good11:14
clivejobut as to how itgot fixed, thats beyond me!11:14
Skuggenclivejo: There's still the issue of running mysql_upgrade on existing installs. Do you know how much akonadi interacts with the database system tables (e.g. user management) after the initial install?11:14
SkuggenYeah, I don't get it either11:14
clivejoI bont believe its as simple as deleted the config file and letting it get recreated11:15
clivejodeleting11:15
* clivejo goes in search of food11:21
telegram<Sick_Rimmit>: /me Oooo yes tis lunch time11:21
yofelSkuggen: didn't have time for that yesterday, so no. If you could dump that into a bug that would be great, and feel free to assign that to me11:22
yofelclivejo: that doesn't really matter, as long as the package ships a new file, the user file gets overwritten11:23
yofel(at least talking about mysql.conf)11:23
Skuggenyofel: Will do, thanks11:28
Skuggenyofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361485 Can use this, I guess :)11:38
ubottuKDE bug 361485 in server "crash on initial start with mysql 5.7 on ubuntu 16.04" [Grave,Confirmed]11:38
yofeltrue, thanks for finding that11:38
SkuggenI'll upload the fix suggestions to it11:41
telegramTZbot was added by: athoneycutt11:49
telegram<Clifford>: Yofel I mean the config file in my user folder12:39
mhall119hey guys, I'd like to have a UOS session about Plasma Mobile in the Convergence track, who would be a good person to run it and show off the work being done there?13:02
sgclarkmhall119: afaik no one in the kubuntu team is involved in plasma-mobile. Not sure who is working on it, bshah maybe?13:56
mhall119sgclark: oh, do you know who in KDE I can ask about it then?13:58
sgclarkclivejo: I found some doc on plasma desktop hacking and pushed some changes to bzr. though not quite working.13:58
sgclarkmhall119: I am trying to find out.13:58
mhall119thanks sgclark 13:58
bshahhmm, I do work on plasma mobile, but mostly generating images and making sure that things work..14:02
bshahnot sure I am good fit about convergence track..14:03
mhall119bshah: "convergence track" is really any topic that touches desktop and mobile14:05
bshahmaybe : https://dot.kde.org/2016/03/30/kde-proudly-presents-kirigami-ui would be interesting topic..14:06
clivejosgclark: would you mind posting a link to those docs?14:06
sgclarkhttps://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting#Misc._Global_Properties_and_Functions14:07
mhall119bshah: absolutely, is that a session you can host?14:07
bshahI am just pointing... ;)14:07
bshahbut well, will have to think14:07
mhall119bshah: ok, let me know what you decide14:08
bshahalso online summits are bit hard for me... (you know internet connections)14:08
mhall119I'll be on holiday for a couple weeks,but ping or PM me and it'll be logged in my client14:08
mhall119bshah: I understand that :)14:08
bshahwhen is UOS?14:08
mhall119May 3-514:09
mhall1191400 UTC to 2000 UTC14:10
clivejoSho_: ping14:11
bshahhey colomar14:11
notmarti can talk a bit about kirigami as well14:11
bshahwould like to talk about UoS about kirigami?14:11
bshahmhall119: ^14:12
clivejomhall119: you had Ubuntu on Nexus 7 (grouper) was the project abandoned?14:12
mhall119clivejo: on grouper it was, they switched to the 2013 Nexus 7 instead14:13
mhall119something about it having friendlier GPU14:13
mhall119hi colomar, I'm recruiting sessions for the next Ubuntu Online Summit, and I want to highlight the work in KDE to bridge desktop and mobile devices14:14
sgclarkmhall119: did you see above, notmart offered ^^14:14
mhall119I missed that, thanks notmart!14:14
notmarti can talk about implementation side, colomar about design side14:15
mhall119thanks, do you guys have Launchpad accounts? summit.ubuntu.com uses that and Ubuntu SSO for user accounts14:16
colomarI do have ine14:16
colomarone14:16
mhall119and are you guys okay with starting an on-air hangout for it? I'll get you all the instructions you need14:17
notmartdon't remember..14:17
notmartah, seems to still work ;)14:17
mhall119can I get both of your launchpad usernames?14:18
notmartnotmart14:21
sgclarkclivejo: https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting#Look_and_Feel_dependent_default_setup_for_applets14:23
mhall119thanks14:23
sgclarkmy location was wrong. moving it.14:23
notmartcolomar: ^^ (launchpad username)14:24
colomaro-monroe (don't ask ;) )14:24
clivejosgclark: did you strip out all the KDE4 stuff?14:24
sgclarkclivejo: I put a bunch in a folder called legacy. in case stuff breaks.14:24
clivejogood idea!14:25
sgclarkI really don't know what they had going on there14:25
clivejosgclark: did you figire out if the folder widget can be made bigger?14:25
clivejosgclark: Bug 156040414:27
ubottubug 1560404 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Live session desktop uses to small folder view widget " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156040414:27
sgclarkwell I had file in wrong location so I have not been able to test my changes. Working on that now, but need to finish coffee. brain not working yet14:27
* genii makes a fresh pot14:27
sgclarkclivejo: yeah I know of the bug. and was messing with folderview14:27
colomarmhall119: Which days should we register for?14:30
mhall119colomar: as many as you'll be around for. if you want a specific day and time for your session let me know, I'll be the one scheduling them14:32
colomarOk14:36
notmartcolomar, mhall119: may 4 14:00 utc ?14:43
colomarOr do you plan to have a day which generally focuses on mobile or convergence, mhall119? Then we could fit in there...14:45
colomarOkay mhall119 I've signed up, just let us know what we'll have to do next15:11
mhall119colomar: topics span all days, the 4th sounds good to me15:41
colomarOk15:41
mhall119colomar: notmart: if one of you can fill out http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/propose_meeting/ with a title and short description, that's all I need15:41
mhall119I will email you a few days before the event with instructions for setting up the G+ Hangout15:42
colomarOk, we will 15:42
clivejosgclark: any luck with the favourites?16:53
sgclarkno. I am having great luck at breaking plasma though. haha17:10
clivejowhere are those files in debian?17:11
sgclarkthey don't exist. and so far everything I have tried has failed.17:12
sgclarkso I am not the one to ask.17:12
clivejobut where are the supposed to go that plasma can pick them up and overwrite the blasted things!17:12
sgclarkseems like it should be easy...17:12
clivejono offence but that doc is rubbish!17:13
sgclarkit is, and it looks like there is kde4 cruft in it17:13
sgclarkwhich explains why other distros are just over writing the default17:14
sgclarkbut I would like to do it the "right" way17:14
clivejoI get that we need to over it with a js file17:14
clivejobut I dont get where on a debian system those files should be17:15
clivejoI can see the L&F folder - /usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel17:21
clivejobut do we have to change the default favourites for each theme?17:21
sgclarkI could not get it to work there for either theme17:22
clivejosame :(17:22
clivejoat least the OpenSUSE method works!17:22
clivejomight not be the "right" way"17:22
sgclarkwhat method is that?17:23
clivejoto install a kickoffrc file17:23
sgclarkah17:23
sgclarkwe may just have to do that if we want this in xenial17:23
sgclarkthough it may be too late for that17:24
sgclarkdunno17:24
clivejoI didnt check the icon, but the kickoff fav's works for new news17:24
clivejousers17:24
clivejoand Martin Pitt said it doesnt need a FFE as its a bug fix17:25
sgclarkclivejo: honestly I am ok with just using kickoffrc way for this release. We can do it the right way in backports and nextrelease type thing.17:32
sgclarkwe simply do not have the time to get past this learning curve for this release17:33
sgclarkclivejo: so if you want to do that I will push it to archive.17:33
sheytanheya! What's the release date of LTS?18:17
clivejothursday18:18
* sheytan happy :D18:19
* clivejo glad someone is!18:19
yofelYou should give reality denial a try, maybe you'll be happy then.18:20
yofelWorks for me usually18:20
mamarleyYou guys have worked really hard, thanks for your effort! :)18:21
yofelmamarley: thanks! *hugs*18:21
mamarleyI have been using Xenial for quite some time already and I am very impressed.  I think this release will be good. :)18:22
* BluesKaj agrees 100% ....good work by all !18:23
sheytanNeed any testing?18:29
sheytanCan help :)18:29
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sheytanwell, i've got another question. Is there a way (or will be fixed) to get muon working?18:46
soeesheytan: i think fixed version is uploade dto archive or waiting for sponsor18:52
soeeclivejo: might now more ^18:52
sgclarkit was pushed to archive18:55
soeekernel update19:52
claydohhas there been any movement on this bug regarding the driver manager: 20:14
claydohhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/153052320:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1530523 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Confirmed]20:14
claydohjust curious20:14
soeei doubt20:15
valoriesomeone reported being hit by it yesterday in #kubuntu (I think it was yesterday, anyway)20:30
soeevalorie: it is liek that more than half year i think :D20:31
valoriebut it works for me!20:32
soeeon what version ?20:32
valoriea second or two and it comes back with a report20:32
valoriewhat is the package name?20:32
soeemaybe this problem is related to hardware 20:32
valorieI don't seem to have kcm_driver_manager20:33
valorieaccording to apt-cache policy20:33
soeevalorie: i mean Kubuntu version :)20:33
valorie16.0420:33
valorieupdated last night; let's update again20:33
valorieaha, kernel update20:34
soeefor me it freezes @ collecting informations20:35
clivejowhat freezes?20:36
soeedriver manager KCM20:38
clivejoah, that hasnt works for a while20:38
soeeterminal only outputs: No frame loaded20:39
telegram<sgclark2>: Probably is not maintained. ..20:40
soeei think shadeslayer or apachelogger maintained it before20:41
valoriethat is shadeslayer's, is it not?20:41
valorieI dunno, works for me20:41
soeelucky you :D20:41
soee2 days left :)20:42
* clivejo beats soee with a trout20:42
clivejonever mind slapping!20:43
soeeoh be happy .. ;]20:43
clivejoIm not happy20:43
* shadeslayer looks at bug report20:43
valoriesup clivejo?20:44
shadeslayerpeople, y u no use ubuntu-bug20:44
valorieI do!20:44
shadeslayerClearly valorie is a AI then20:45
soeeshadeslayer: can i debug anyhow this problem ?20:45
shadeslayerdafuq, I cant comment no more?20:46
soeevalorie: btw do you have maybe graphics-drivers ppa enaled ?20:46
shadeslayersoee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/153052320:46
soeei have it and maybe this causes some problems20:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1530523 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Incomplete]20:46
valoriesoee: no20:46
valorieno PPAs enabled at all20:47
valorierestarting after kernel update20:47
soeeshadeslayer: 20:48
soeeERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named PyQt5.QtCore20:48
shadeslayerQ.Q20:53
shadeslayerdunno, too tired20:53
soeeit seems like it was fixed once in 15.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/143978420:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1439784 in apport (Ubuntu) "[apport-kde] apport-collect: Can not import module PyQt5.QtCore" [Medium,Fix released]20:54
valoriegotta go outside, it's too pretty out there20:55
soeewhy this would exists in 16.04 ?20:55
soeeis it due to some QT update/changes ?20:56

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