[00:06] <sgclark> tracked down to nvidia problem. Same USB install medium worked just fine on a box with intel card.
[00:06] <sgclark> Bug filed. I have no clue how to fix graphic driver issues with ISOs.
[04:43] <valorie> very odd, look at this packagelist for today's updates: 
[04:43] <valorie> he following packages will be upgraded:
[04:43] <valorie>   imagemagick imagemagick-6.q16 imagemagick-common kate kate5-data liblz4-1 libmagick++-6.q16-5v5 libmagickcore-6.q16-2 libmagickcore-6.q16-2-extra libmagickwand-6.q16-2
[04:43] <valorie>   muon-discover muon-notifier muon-updater plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-discover-updater
[04:43] <valorie> why on earth do we still have muon-discover, or muon-notifier?
[04:44] <valorie> seems like those should have been uninstall automatically
[04:44] <valorie> Setting up muon-discover (4:5.6.2-1ubuntu1) ...
[04:44] <valorie> Setting up muon-notifier (4:5.6.2-1ubuntu1) ...
[04:44] <valorie> Setting up muon-updater (4:5.6.2-1ubuntu1) ...
 Those are in discover package
[05:06] <valorie> @sgclark2 that's weird
[05:06] <valorie> but OK
[05:06] <sgclark> agreed, just the messenger haha
[05:14] <sgclark> must sleep, night night
[05:16] <valorie> sleep well, sgclark
[06:39] <soee> good morning
[08:21] <yofel> valorie: muon-* are empty transitional packages
[08:22] <valorie> oh good
[08:22] <valorie> thanks, yofel!
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[08:56] <valorie> "This American web site is proudly supporting Donald J Trump for President 2016." at the bottom, LOL
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[09:23] <valorie> y'all have a good day; heading to bed here
[09:24] <soee> it is 11:25 :D
[09:24] <soee> bo time for bed ... time to work work work :-)
[10:59] <clivejo> Sho_: when is the best time to have a chat with you today?
[11:00] <Sho_> clivejo: in about 15 minutes maybe, we're currently having a meeting about the plasma 5.7 test days in #plasma
[11:00] <clivejo> ok
[11:08] <Skuggen> yofel: Did you do anything with the suggestions for making fresh installs of akonadi work with MySQL 5.7? Should I put the suggested fixes in bug reports?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:12] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[11:12] <clivejo> hi slhk 
[11:12] <BluesKaj> hey clivejo
[11:13] <clivejo> Skuggen: akonadi seems to be hold stable, even after shutdown last night
[11:14] <Skuggen> clivejo: Phew, that's good
[11:14] <clivejo> but as to how itgot fixed, thats beyond me!
[11:14] <Skuggen> clivejo: There's still the issue of running mysql_upgrade on existing installs. Do you know how much akonadi interacts with the database system tables (e.g. user management) after the initial install?
[11:14] <Skuggen> Yeah, I don't get it either
[11:15] <clivejo> I bont believe its as simple as deleted the config file and letting it get recreated
[11:15] <clivejo> deleting
[11:21]  * clivejo goes in search of food
 /me Oooo yes tis lunch time
[11:22] <yofel> Skuggen: didn't have time for that yesterday, so no. If you could dump that into a bug that would be great, and feel free to assign that to me
[11:23] <yofel> clivejo: that doesn't really matter, as long as the package ships a new file, the user file gets overwritten
[11:23] <yofel> (at least talking about mysql.conf)
[11:28] <Skuggen> yofel: Will do, thanks
[11:38] <Skuggen> yofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361485 Can use this, I guess :)
[11:38] <yofel> true, thanks for finding that
[11:41] <Skuggen> I'll upload the fix suggestions to it
[11:49] <telegram> TZbot was added by: athoneycutt
 Yofel I mean the config file in my user folder
[13:02] <mhall119> hey guys, I'd like to have a UOS session about Plasma Mobile in the Convergence track, who would be a good person to run it and show off the work being done there?
[13:56] <sgclark> mhall119: afaik no one in the kubuntu team is involved in plasma-mobile. Not sure who is working on it, bshah maybe?
[13:58] <mhall119> sgclark: oh, do you know who in KDE I can ask about it then?
[13:58] <sgclark> clivejo: I found some doc on plasma desktop hacking and pushed some changes to bzr. though not quite working.
[13:58] <sgclark> mhall119: I am trying to find out.
[13:58] <mhall119> thanks sgclark 
[14:02] <bshah> hmm, I do work on plasma mobile, but mostly generating images and making sure that things work..
[14:03] <bshah> not sure I am good fit about convergence track..
[14:05] <mhall119> bshah: "convergence track" is really any topic that touches desktop and mobile
[14:06] <bshah> maybe : https://dot.kde.org/2016/03/30/kde-proudly-presents-kirigami-ui would be interesting topic..
[14:06] <clivejo> sgclark: would you mind posting a link to those docs?
[14:07] <sgclark> https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting#Misc._Global_Properties_and_Functions
[14:07] <mhall119> bshah: absolutely, is that a session you can host?
[14:07] <bshah> I am just pointing... ;)
[14:07] <bshah> but well, will have to think
[14:08] <mhall119> bshah: ok, let me know what you decide
[14:08] <bshah> also online summits are bit hard for me... (you know internet connections)
[14:08] <mhall119> I'll be on holiday for a couple weeks,but ping or PM me and it'll be logged in my client
[14:08] <mhall119> bshah: I understand that :)
[14:08] <bshah> when is UOS?
[14:09] <mhall119> May 3-5
[14:10] <mhall119> 1400 UTC to 2000 UTC
[14:11] <clivejo> Sho_: ping
[14:11] <bshah> hey colomar
[14:11] <notmart> i can talk a bit about kirigami as well
[14:11] <bshah> would like to talk about UoS about kirigami?
[14:12] <bshah> mhall119: ^
[14:12] <clivejo> mhall119: you had Ubuntu on Nexus 7 (grouper) was the project abandoned?
[14:13] <mhall119> clivejo: on grouper it was, they switched to the 2013 Nexus 7 instead
[14:13] <mhall119> something about it having friendlier GPU
[14:14] <mhall119> hi colomar, I'm recruiting sessions for the next Ubuntu Online Summit, and I want to highlight the work in KDE to bridge desktop and mobile devices
[14:14] <sgclark> mhall119: did you see above, notmart offered ^^
[14:14] <mhall119> I missed that, thanks notmart!
[14:15] <notmart> i can talk about implementation side, colomar about design side
[14:16] <mhall119> thanks, do you guys have Launchpad accounts? summit.ubuntu.com uses that and Ubuntu SSO for user accounts
[14:16] <colomar> I do have ine
[14:16] <colomar> one
[14:17] <mhall119> and are you guys okay with starting an on-air hangout for it? I'll get you all the instructions you need
[14:17] <notmart> don't remember..
[14:17] <notmart> ah, seems to still work ;)
[14:18] <mhall119> can I get both of your launchpad usernames?
[14:21] <notmart> notmart
[14:23] <sgclark> clivejo: https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting#Look_and_Feel_dependent_default_setup_for_applets
[14:23] <mhall119> thanks
[14:23] <sgclark> my location was wrong. moving it.
[14:24] <notmart> colomar: ^^ (launchpad username)
[14:24] <colomar> o-monroe (don't ask ;) )
[14:24] <clivejo> sgclark: did you strip out all the KDE4 stuff?
[14:24] <sgclark> clivejo: I put a bunch in a folder called legacy. in case stuff breaks.
[14:25] <clivejo> good idea!
[14:25] <sgclark> I really don't know what they had going on there
[14:25] <clivejo> sgclark: did you figire out if the folder widget can be made bigger?
[14:27] <clivejo> sgclark: Bug 1560404
[14:27] <sgclark> well I had file in wrong location so I have not been able to test my changes. Working on that now, but need to finish coffee. brain not working yet
[14:27]  * genii makes a fresh pot
[14:27] <sgclark> clivejo: yeah I know of the bug. and was messing with folderview
[14:30] <colomar> mhall119: Which days should we register for?
[14:32] <mhall119> colomar: as many as you'll be around for. if you want a specific day and time for your session let me know, I'll be the one scheduling them
[14:36] <colomar> Ok
[14:43] <notmart> colomar, mhall119: may 4 14:00 utc ?
[14:45] <colomar> Or do you plan to have a day which generally focuses on mobile or convergence, mhall119? Then we could fit in there...
[15:11] <colomar> Okay mhall119 I've signed up, just let us know what we'll have to do next
[15:41] <mhall119> colomar: topics span all days, the 4th sounds good to me
[15:41] <colomar> Ok
[15:41] <mhall119> colomar: notmart: if one of you can fill out http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/propose_meeting/ with a title and short description, that's all I need
[15:42] <mhall119> I will email you a few days before the event with instructions for setting up the G+ Hangout
[15:42] <colomar> Ok, we will 
[16:53] <clivejo> sgclark: any luck with the favourites?
[17:10] <sgclark> no. I am having great luck at breaking plasma though. haha
[17:11] <clivejo> where are those files in debian?
[17:12] <sgclark> they don't exist. and so far everything I have tried has failed.
[17:12] <sgclark> so I am not the one to ask.
[17:12] <clivejo> but where are the supposed to go that plasma can pick them up and overwrite the blasted things!
[17:12] <sgclark> seems like it should be easy...
[17:13] <clivejo> no offence but that doc is rubbish!
[17:13] <sgclark> it is, and it looks like there is kde4 cruft in it
[17:14] <sgclark> which explains why other distros are just over writing the default
[17:14] <sgclark> but I would like to do it the "right" way
[17:14] <clivejo> I get that we need to over it with a js file
[17:15] <clivejo> but I dont get where on a debian system those files should be
[17:21] <clivejo> I can see the L&F folder - /usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel
[17:21] <clivejo> but do we have to change the default favourites for each theme?
[17:22] <sgclark> I could not get it to work there for either theme
[17:22] <clivejo> same :(
[17:22] <clivejo> at least the OpenSUSE method works!
[17:22] <clivejo> might not be the "right" way"
[17:23] <sgclark> what method is that?
[17:23] <clivejo> to install a kickoffrc file
[17:23] <sgclark> ah
[17:23] <sgclark> we may just have to do that if we want this in xenial
[17:24] <sgclark> though it may be too late for that
[17:24] <sgclark> dunno
[17:24] <clivejo> I didnt check the icon, but the kickoff fav's works for new news
[17:24] <clivejo> users
[17:25] <clivejo> and Martin Pitt said it doesnt need a FFE as its a bug fix
[17:32] <sgclark> clivejo: honestly I am ok with just using kickoffrc way for this release. We can do it the right way in backports and nextrelease type thing.
[17:33] <sgclark> we simply do not have the time to get past this learning curve for this release
[17:33] <sgclark> clivejo: so if you want to do that I will push it to archive.
[18:17] <sheytan> heya! What's the release date of LTS?
[18:18] <clivejo> thursday
[18:19]  * sheytan happy :D
[18:19]  * clivejo glad someone is!
[18:20] <yofel> You should give reality denial a try, maybe you'll be happy then.
[18:20] <yofel> Works for me usually
[18:21] <mamarley> You guys have worked really hard, thanks for your effort! :)
[18:21] <yofel> mamarley: thanks! *hugs*
[18:22] <mamarley> I have been using Xenial for quite some time already and I am very impressed.  I think this release will be good. :)
[18:23]  * BluesKaj agrees 100% ....good work by all !
[18:29] <sheytan> Need any testing?
[18:29] <sheytan> Can help :)
[18:46] <sheytan> well, i've got another question. Is there a way (or will be fixed) to get muon working?
[18:52] <soee> sheytan: i think fixed version is uploade dto archive or waiting for sponsor
[18:52] <soee> clivejo: might now more ^
[18:55] <sgclark> it was pushed to archive
[19:52] <soee> kernel update
[20:14] <claydoh> has there been any movement on this bug regarding the driver manager: 
[20:14] <claydoh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1530523
[20:14] <claydoh> just curious
[20:15] <soee> i doubt
[20:30] <valorie> someone reported being hit by it yesterday in #kubuntu (I think it was yesterday, anyway)
[20:31] <soee> valorie: it is liek that more than half year i think :D
[20:32] <valorie> but it works for me!
[20:32] <soee> on what version ?
[20:32] <valorie> a second or two and it comes back with a report
[20:32] <valorie> what is the package name?
[20:32] <soee> maybe this problem is related to hardware 
[20:33] <valorie> I don't seem to have kcm_driver_manager
[20:33] <valorie> according to apt-cache policy
[20:33] <soee> valorie: i mean Kubuntu version :)
[20:33] <valorie> 16.04
[20:33] <valorie> updated last night; let's update again
[20:34] <valorie> aha, kernel update
[20:35] <soee> for me it freezes @ collecting informations
[20:36] <clivejo> what freezes?
[20:38] <soee> driver manager KCM
[20:38] <clivejo> ah, that hasnt works for a while
[20:39] <soee> terminal only outputs: No frame loaded
 Probably is not maintained. ..
[20:41] <soee> i think shadeslayer or apachelogger maintained it before
[20:41] <valorie> that is shadeslayer's, is it not?
[20:41] <valorie> I dunno, works for me
[20:41] <soee> lucky you :D
[20:42] <soee> 2 days left :)
[20:42]  * clivejo beats soee with a trout
[20:43] <clivejo> never mind slapping!
[20:43] <soee> oh be happy .. ;]
[20:43] <clivejo> Im not happy
[20:43]  * shadeslayer looks at bug report
[20:44] <valorie> sup clivejo?
[20:44] <shadeslayer> people, y u no use ubuntu-bug
[20:44] <valorie> I do!
[20:45] <shadeslayer> Clearly valorie is a AI then
[20:45] <soee> shadeslayer: can i debug anyhow this problem ?
[20:46] <shadeslayer> dafuq, I cant comment no more?
[20:46] <soee> valorie: btw do you have maybe graphics-drivers ppa enaled ?
[20:46] <shadeslayer> soee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1530523
[20:46] <soee> i have it and maybe this causes some problems
[20:46] <valorie> soee: no
[20:47] <valorie> no PPAs enabled at all
[20:47] <valorie> restarting after kernel update
[20:48] <soee> shadeslayer: 
[20:48] <soee> ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named PyQt5.QtCore
[20:53] <shadeslayer> Q.Q
[20:53] <shadeslayer> dunno, too tired
[20:54] <soee> it seems like it was fixed once in 15.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1439784
[20:55] <valorie> gotta go outside, it's too pretty out there
[20:55] <soee> why this would exists in 16.04 ?
[20:56] <soee> is it due to some QT update/changes ?