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Kilosguten morgen meine herren05:36
superflyGuten abend Kilos 05:39
Kiloshehe05:39
magespawnhey good morning06:04
Kiloshi magespawn 06:04
Kiloshey yourself06:04
magespawnhorses eat it06:22
magespawnor maybe that is hay06:23
Wolfeyeslol06:26
Wolfeyesmorning Kilos magespawn06:26
Kiloshmm...06:31
superflymagespawn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXtGtgXQh006:57
Wolfeyesha ha ha superfly07:06
Wolfeyesbrilliant07:06
chesedohello all07:31
* chesedo thinks he might have found a new band that he can listen to07:33
Kiloshi chesedo 07:45
superflychesedo: Relient K?08:02
chesedosuperfly: yip08:03
superflychesedo: they're kinda old, actually. and their older stuff is better than their most recent stuff08:03
chesedosuperfly: saw that they are... it is weird how a lot of band's old stuff is better than newer ones08:05
LangjanHi Kilos you dont like e-mails hey?09:21
LangjanThks will let you know when Pieter can come over09:22
Kiloshaha you guessed09:22
Kilospainful things and i get so many09:22
Langjantake too much bandwidth? oh09:22
Kilosnp09:22
Kilosno09:22
Kilostoo much reading09:22
Langjanwell if your popular youre it09:23
Kilosits not popular its all the locos ive had to join to try get them going09:23
Langjantrying to connect the tannie via my adsl, dlink exender almost R2 00009:23
Kilos8 mailing lists i think09:23
Kilossjo09:24
Kiloshow far is she from you09:24
Langjanabout 55 metres09:24
Langjandlnk signal goes about 40 09:24
Kiloseish09:25
Kilossee if you can find someone that can make you an eth cable09:25
LangjanI have one but its 30 metres09:25
Kilosget another one09:26
Langjanwill have to cross a road09:26
Kiloshehe09:26
Kilosai!09:26
Kilosstring it in the trees09:26
Langjanbut thats not a bad option, even if I have to dig a ditch and pipe it under the road09:26
Kilosnot on branches that move in the wind09:26
Langjanor the aerial way can also work09:27
Kilosdoesnt she have a telkom line09:27
Langjanperhaps I can get a connector and join 2 cables?Pity to waste 30 metresli 09:27
Langjanshe does yes09:28
Kilosi think bridges are quite cheap09:28
Langjanbut adsl line rent is expensive09:28
Kilosah09:28
Kilossee, tell me this isnt easier than emails to and fro09:29
Langjanis that what you call a ethernet joint, a bridge?09:29
Langjandepends what you want to communicate09:29
Kilosi think so09:29
Kilosmaybe you get just a joint thing09:30
LangjanI dont pay you to fink, you must know...09:30
magespawnyou can join ethernet cable, although i prefer not to09:30
Kilosbridges can take 4 cables09:30
Langjanthks magespawn and hi 09:31
magespawnthere is a gel filled connector called a scotch lock09:31
magespawnhi Langjan 09:31
Kilosbut then the bridges is out in the weather and needs power as well09:31
Langjanit will be under roof, power?09:31
Kilosthis one has a power supply and a goodie like a fone charger09:32
Kiloslemme look09:32
Kilosja09:32
Kilosuse that 30m cable so you can sit somewhere else as well09:33
Kilosget one the right length09:33
Kiloswith some extra of course09:33
Kilosfor corners and sticking to wall so it looks neat09:34
Langjanwhat price ethernet cabl per metre?09:34
Kilosi have no idea09:34
magespawnlook here http://is.gd/YXPGGz09:35
Wolfeyesmaybe 5 - 709:35
Langjanjy moet weet geek...lmga09:35
Langjanthks09:35
Wolfeyesbut you can buy rolls at about 1.50 - 2 rand per metre09:35
Langjanmagespawn, and Wolfeyes 09:35
Wolfeyesyw09:35
KilosWolfeyes can give cable prices 09:35
Wolfeyes:-)09:35
LangjanIs there not a connector box with eth sockets both sides to connect?09:37
magespawni recently bought exterior cat5 with uv shielding for about R7/meter09:37
magespawnLangjan: there is, but it would need to be kept dry09:38
Langjannot a problem to keep dry09:38
Langjancan put the joint in the ceiling09:39
Langjanor under overhang and use silicone09:40
magespawnit looks the same as the old connectors used to join telephone cable, just bigger to take the lan cable09:40
Wolfeyesyou can buy joint from a matrix or any computer shop, haven't bought in ages, normal rj45 is about 2 each09:40
Langjanrj45?09:40
magespawnthat is the connector on a lan cable09:41
Langjanoh, ok thks09:41
magespawnthe clear plasctic doohickey on the end09:41
Langjanok another q while I have the geeks on the line plse09:42
Langjanif I run the cable, will they be able to connect two computers that side? 09:43
Langjana split?09:43
magespawnthen you will need a switch on the other side09:45
magespawn5 port ethernet switch09:45
magespawnalso available from matrix around R18009:46
magespawnsomething like http://www.dlink.com/uk/en/home-solutions/connect/switches/dgs-105-5-port-gigabit-ethernet-switch09:47
Langjanok many thanks09:50
magespawnno problem09:51
Wolfeyeslol @ doohickey @ magespawn10:17
Wolfeyessorry Langjan I was just on a call to a client.10:19
Wolfeyesmagespawn: if you buy now and again at matrix you can push them lower for prices10:20
LangjanLooks like these can work: http://www.takealot.com/ugreen-rj45-8p8c-network-coupler-keyston/PLID40361930 and http://www.takealot.com/tp-link-5-port-10-100mbps-mini-desktop-switch/PLID2872000310:30
Langjannp Wolfeyes I was having some lunch10:31
Wolfeyesgetting some horse power in...10:32
Langjanmust check if eth cable can run underground and/or overhead (uv exposure)10:32
Langjanyes gotta keep going10:32
magespawnand if the cable is underground keeping it dry too10:50
magespawnKilos Langjan could also get external wireless ap, bt those tend to be rather pricey11:22
magespawn/sbt/but11:22
magespawns/bt/but11:22
mazalHi everyone11:29
magespawnhi mazal11:29
mazalHow goes ?11:30
Kilosi think he is looking for the cheapest options magespawn . those peeps all retired there11:31
Kiloshi mazal 11:31
magespawnsunny mazal11:33
magespawnKilos: figured just thought i would mention it, cable is much cheaper11:34
* mazal spend money he didn't have again :( All thanx to eskom11:34
Kiloswhat now mazal 11:34
magespawnpower problems?11:34
mazalHad no power the whole day so went shopping.11:34
mazalCredit card still smoking11:35
Kilosai!11:35
mazalHey my DING !!! ain't working11:35
mazalIt didn't *ding* when you guys greeted11:35
Kiloshaha11:36
Kilosmazal 11:36
Kilosmazal 11:36
Kilosturn up the volume11:36
mazalThe highlight works , but not the ding when window is minimized11:36
Kilosor untick the mute button11:36
bushtechat least fixing this "ding" isn't going to cost you money11:37
Kiloshahahaha well said bushtech 11:37
mazallol @ bushtech , indeed sir11:37
mazalKilos,I give you 1 guess what I bought today11:37
Kilosnono just tell me guessing requires thinking11:38
bushtechsatellite dish for sat sig?11:38
mazal5 new games11:38
bushtechTHAT's gonna het your card smoking11:38
Kiloseish11:38
bushtechnee man!11:39
mazaland a backup console :P11:39
Kilosyou dont have time to play all those you have11:39
Kiloseish11:39
mazalIs not my fault , I was bored11:39
Kilosif you had taken a more expensive internet connection then you would have less to spend11:40
bushtechI'm sure there's a support group for this11:40
Kilosyes11:40
mazalbut but....11:40
Kilosi saw on tv they had a program about compulsive buyers/shoppers11:41
Kilosits a reckognised illness11:41
Kiloshehe11:41
Kilosrecognised11:41
mazalI'm emosional shopper. When depressed or bored I shop11:41
Kilosmany females have that problem11:41
Kilosbuy a bucket of fruit next time and go sit in the parks and eat11:42
mazalOh awesome !!! This one has offline multiplayer with bots !!! NIce :)11:43
mazalIs there a "minimize all windows" shortcut on Kubuntu ?11:49
Kilosis this a quiz11:50
MaNI"alt + f2" > "Global keyboard shortcuts" > "Kwin" > "Show desktop"11:52
MaNIif there isn't a shortcut set you can set it there11:52
MaNIif you right click the pager and go to "pager settings" - you can also set it so that clicking the current desktop in the pager minimizes everything11:53
mazalNice , found it thank you MaNI11:54
Kilosyou on kde MaNI 11:54
mazalIt didn't have one associated so gave it one11:54
MaNIyeah I'm a long time KDE user - even though they tested my patience quite a bit when kde 4 came out :p11:54
mazalThe key here of course being me remembering what I made it lol11:54
mazalThe alt f2 thing is nice , didn't know about that11:55
mazalIt searches apps and docs , nice11:55
MaNIit has all sorts of little plugins by the way - not just a run box11:55
MaNIlike you can use it as a quick calculator and stuff as well :p11:55
mazalJust tried that hehehehe11:56
mazalI am very new to KDE. 11:56
mazalUSed it for about a year now at work , but there it's just for email and docs11:57
MaNIyeah, a bit different on a personal computer :p12:06
=== jellie is now known as zipper
inetpro 13:11
Kiloshmm...13:14
Wolfeyeseither that was a space, alt(and the number for space), enter key, or writting in white ...13:14
Kiloswriting in white you can highlight to read13:15
Wolfeyesonly thing that highlights is then a single space13:16
Kilosya  ya13:16
Kiloswas a space13:16
Kiloshe is just being clever again13:17
Wolfeyesbe back later13:17
inetprohaha13:54
inetproKilos: you have good eyes13:55
andrewlsdHi Peeps \o/14:01
Kilosyeah14:18
Kiloshi andrewlsd 14:18
andrewlsd :_)14:38
andrewlsd:-)14:38
andrewlsdhi Kilos 14:38
Kilos:)14:45
andrewlsdcheerio. Hopefully will be online here a bit longer.14:50
magespawnback again15:04
pavlushkaGood evening every one!15:07
magespawnhi pavlushka 15:09
pavlushkaHello magespawn , how are you?15:09
magespawngood and you?15:10
pavlushkadoing good, thanks!15:11
pavlushkawbb15:11
magespawnhome time for me, good evening all15:12
Kiloshi pavlushka 15:18
Kiloshi Langjan 15:24
Kiloswhat broke15:24
Kiloshehe15:24
LangjanHi Kilos, you can relax, lmga we were at bowls and computer was sleeping, woke up with irc open. How you doing re visa?15:30
Kilosim just busy looking for the mail addies where i got some reection last time15:31
Kilossuperfly when you have time can you be my editor again please15:59
Kilosi want to make some waves but want to do it in a democratic way15:59
Kilossuperfly inetpro https://bin.snyman.info/mmmmjemy16:32
Kilosi go eat17:02
Kilossuperfly it grew https://bin.snyman.info/mmmcw3j517:42
KilosLangjan jy nog hier?17:53
Kilossjoe17:53
Kilosgonna rain17:54
Langjansoort van, eet net gou17:54
Kilosjulle rol nie balle in die donker nie17:54
Langjansoms ja, spreiligte17:54
Kilospatry te veel dink ek17:54
Kilosett lekker oom17:55
Kiloseet17:55
Langjanken nie eers vir Pat nie17:55
Langjandankie17:55
Kilosparty man17:55
inetproKilos: which one is easier to read, 18:04
inetprothis https://bin.snyman.info/mmmnj6nn18:04
inetproor this https://bin.snyman.info/mmmcw3j5 ?18:04
Kilosthe first one of course18:06
Kilosi dunno why the bin makes those long lines18:06
Kiloswhen i blog i do it the same way and word wraps itself18:07
inetpronow please use spacing and paragraphs when you want us to read stuff18:07
inetproKilos: my point is not so much about the wrapping as it is about the paragraph spacing18:07
Kilosif i write directly to th bin it might be better18:08
inetpronope, it won't 18:08
Kilosit was kinda paragraphed in kate18:09
inetproit doesn't do wrapping18:09
Kilosnono thern ill use line feeds18:09
Kilosthen18:09
inetproin kate you can force wrapping bt choosing Tools | Apply Word Wrap18:09
inetpros/bt/by/18:10
Kilosand when i then take it to thes bin?18:10
Kilosyes that works18:11
Kilosty grumpy18:11
inetprotry it and see for yourself18:11
Kilosi have18:11
Kiloslekker18:12
inetprofirst impressions count18:12
Kilosdankie oompie18:12
Kilosand that has to end up in a mail18:12
Kilosnow18:12
Kiloscorrections etc to my wording will be helpful18:13
superflyKilos: why?18:13
superflyKilos: what are you asking them, and what do you hope to achieve?18:13
Kilosbecause you my editor18:13
Kilosi am asking because i get tired trying to do it all alone18:14
Kilosand18:14
Kilosi hope someone else other than belkie can find the time to help18:14
Kilosshe is very busy18:14
inetproKilos: please note, when copying paragraphs with forced line breaks for wrapping you can expect weird results as the end result for the reader if you are not careful 18:15
Kilosand i hope to achive better quicker growth in ubuntu18:15
Kilosi will make a point of watching that ty inetpro 18:15
Kilosand i also want to know if i have you guys support before i go knocking on big doors18:16
Kilossame as with the membership meeting times18:16
Kiloswe have the 10pm now and its the main time used18:17
Kilosbut took lots of mails and frustration18:17
Kilosand pro support18:17
inetpropro support?18:18
Kilosyes dodo yours18:18
Kilosi was ready to give up a few times18:18
* inetpro not sure whether he can agree with everything he wrote18:18
inetprofirst of all, what mark are you overstepping even?18:19
Kiloswell those councils are kinda closed i think18:19
Kilosonly the lc has meetings in the open channel18:20
Kiloscc has their own channel i think18:20
inetproyou are free to have your own opinion18:20
Kilosoh yes18:21
Kilosbut many wont like to hear it18:21
inetproit is still your opinion18:21
Kilosoh18:22
Kilosthat thing with mhall18:22
Kiloshe says feel free to translate it to any language18:22
Kiloshi pavlushka 18:23
pavlushkaHello Kilos !, it was a power cut, :|18:24
Kilosai!18:24
pavlushkaHello every one!18:25
pavlushkaWhere's the guy with a Hat & Beard?????18:25
inetproso Kilos, when you say "Please forgive me", you really mean that?18:26
inetpropavlushka: good morning18:26
Kiloslol18:26
Kilosnot really but thats to soften the hardekwas outjies18:27
pavlushkainetpro: what's your timezome????18:27
inetpropavlushka: I'm from another planet18:27
pavlushkait looks like!!!18:27
Kiloshaha18:27
KilosMaaz diplomat18:28
MaazA diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip18:28
pavlushkalol18:28
inetproKilos: are you looking forward to the trip already?18:29
pavlushkainetpro: yes here is 0025 hours but in your place it should be 8.30 PM, but morning???18:30
pavlushkamay be its your planet's rule!!!!!18:31
inetpropavlushka: someone stole my watch now I have more time18:31
Kilosoh my inetpro is someone going to do that to me18:32
MaNImore like - a diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a long winded annoying non-committal way that people would rather thake that trip than hear them talk for another second18:32
MaNI*take18:32
Kiloshaha18:32
inetproKilos: I was just wondering about the context of that lookup on Maaz18:33
Kilos nono man18:33
Kilosi have to act the diplomat18:33
inetprook18:34
Kilosthats why i ask for help18:34
inetproMaNI: he needs your help then18:34
Kiloshahaha remember inetpro 18:34
Kiloswhat MaNI said is what worked on popey18:35
Kiloshe gave up in the end18:35
MaNIheh18:35
Kilosoh inetpro and belkie supports me18:36
Kilosand agrees with what i say18:37
pavlushkaKilos: you had some conversation with popey? and he had to agree with you?18:38
Kiloshaha yeah 2 weeks of emails back and forth18:39
Kiloshe got tired first18:39
* chesedo- thinks it may not always be about wearing someone out, but rather to explain it in a way that touches hearts18:40
Kilosyes so climb in and help chesedo- 18:41
Kilosand drop the tail18:41
chesedo-nick chesedo18:41
=== chesedo- is now known as chesedo
Kiloshehe18:41
inetprowb chesedo18:41
chesedoty chesedo18:41
Kiloslol18:41
Kiloshave another beer18:42
chesedo... and do not really know must of what is talked about18:42
Kilosai!18:42
Kiloshttps://bin.snyman.info/mmmnj6nn18:43
chesedonee sies oom, bier nie vir my :-P18:43
Kilosmooi seun18:43
inetprochesedo: please talk to the real chesedo and get him up to date with happenings here18:43
inetprochesedo: btw, did you get your prize yet?18:44
Kiloswho knows inetpro maybe with some big brains working together they can somehow link fb and irc18:44
Kilossame as mattermost18:44
inetproKilos: please no18:45
Kiloswell give ideas then to sort the fb lp prob18:45
chesedono i read it (btw reads better when clicking 'raw') just did not take it in (head might be too full)18:45
inetproI rest my case18:46
Kilosno man18:46
superflyKilos: no, I mean why are you e-mailing the council? what are they going to do, what are you asking them to do18:46
Kilosdont escape a sinking ship like rats do18:46
inetprolegibility is important18:46
Kilosoh superfly im asking then to come up with some ideas on how to overcome the problem18:47
Kilosinetpro fixit18:47
superflyKilos: do they care? do they really care?18:48
inetprono18:48
Kiloswell i would hope so otherwise the community spirit is dying as well18:48
chesedoinetpro: have been without net since yesterday (will have to catch up loads :P)... and no still waiting for an official email about the prize18:49
superflyexactly18:49
superflyKilos: no, they don't18:49
superflyKilos: no, they don't18:49
Kilosai!18:49
inetprohaha18:49
chesedoum, who voted for these guys?18:49
Kiloshow do i fix that18:49
inetproKilos: you are the community18:50
Kiloseish18:50
superflyeish, my lag18:50
Kilosmine only 236 ms18:50
chesedosuperfly: wat is vout met jou lag (stem seer) :P18:50
inetpromine is only 16 ms18:51
inetproI win18:51
Kiloswell then inetpro its up to me to rock the boat not so18:51
* chesedo sees a full circle coming...18:51
superflychesedo: bwahahahaha18:51
superflymine is currently 13s18:51
Kilossjoewhat are you eishing about then18:52
superflyKilos: sending and e-mail to the CC is not rocking the boat18:52
chesedowow, anyway gotta go later guys...18:52
superflythat's telling the rock to move18:53
superflymake that 3018:53
Kiloswell if they dont do something about it then it will be18:53
Kilosoh wow 30 secs18:53
Kilosthats vary bad18:53
Kilosvery18:53
Kilosand i want to attend their meeting18:53
superfly44 seconds...18:54
Kiloseina18:54
pavlushkamine is 0.2s18:54
* inetpro can see superfly timing out in a few secs18:54
Kiloscheers chesedo 18:54
Kilossleep tight18:54
pavlushkagood night chesedo !18:54
Kilosadsl can suck at times18:55
inetprogood night chesedo18:55
pavlushkaHi superfly !18:57
Kilosinetpro i think i must leave the last sentence out18:58
Kilosthe one before thanks for all the hard work18:58
superflyhi pavlushka18:59
superflyi need to get miss muffet to sleep, later18:59
pavlushkaSo you are not timed out!!!.18:59
pavlushkalater superfly !!!18:59
Kilosinetpro so now youve given me lessons in mailing can you sort that mail for me so i can get the ball rolloing19:11
Kilospretty please19:11
Kilosrolling19:11
Kilosai! now he is waiting for me to go to sleep19:27
Kilosyawns19:28
pavlushkagood night guys!!19:42
Kilosnight pavlushka sleep tight19:42
Kilosai!19:48
Kilosyou win19:48
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:48

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